About Azazel, from the old testament, not Tekken, some believe he's a fallen angel, originally named Azael. Az means brave and El means God (also follows the name convention of other angels. Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, all these names are basically "virtue+god"). However when he was cursed, Azael name was changed to reflect his betrayal and being away from god. A letter was added to separate the Aleph and Lamed of the name Azael to create Azazel (doesn't work well in English, so here's some Hebrew: עזאל, the old name, and עזאזל, the new name). You'll notice that story is very similar to Lucifer. Whether if they're the same character with different name or just similar characters, that's a great question. Bonus 1: in contemporary Hebrew, Azazel is basically "damn". A lot of times it just replaces hell (לך לעזאזל means "go to hell") Bonus 2) The letter Zain could be interpreted as a word on it's own. It either means weapon (כלי זין means a tool of war, מזוין means armed) or just dick. Like, penis, not like an asshole. You could interpret that a man's weapon is his dick. Maybe it's intentional...
I still love this comment, but I noticed it doesn't really connect to the topic of the video, specifically the context Azazel was brought up at. Scapegoat is connected to Azazel, but barely. In Hebrew, the term Scapegoat is שעיר לעזאזל, translated roughly as a beast to Azazel. The meaning, a patsie that is to be blamed and sacrificed is intact, but Azazel, the entity, doesn't have a lot to do with the goat. So yeah, they're connected, but not to the extant that Azazel is the scapegoat. If anything, he's the one the Scapegoat is for...
Tekken 6 is where the story really started to fall apart imo. In Tekken 5, I believe the story was still redeemable. Then Tekken 7 came along and smashed it to even more pieces through wack stuff like Akuma being canon and always having been there since before Tekken 1. That aside, I really enjoyed this analysis, making the story of Tekken 6 seem more interesting, deep and profound than it really is. All your videos follow a nice red line and have a great transition between discussing story, gameplay, characters and other things. I found out about your analysis videos a little more than half a year ago and being a Tekken fan, I instantly got hooked and got very intrigued with your analysis of certain plotpoints, character arcs and endings, as well as the themes of the games themselves. Epic content, can’t wait for the analysis of the totally canon Tag 1 and 2 😎
Honestly tekken 3 was the start to me , Tekken tag is the best of 90s tekken hands down the game isny canon but it really deals up the Classic Tekken story Tekken 4 is the pinnacle of Modern 2000's tekken from the soundtrack to number of players available to stage design
I'll say Tekken 4 was it. While the story itself wasn't that bad, probably the best out of Tekken 4, 5, 6, and 7, it set ups is what directly lead to the problems of the later games.
Man, tekken analysis are so rare nowadays. These series that you are doing is great my dude, giving a proper analysis of the games qualities and it's lore. You deserve more views, good luck.
I simultaneously feel like you've made me hate T6's story in a different light, but also made me feel like T6's story was a hidden masterpiece WTF!?!?!? XD P.S : Never stop loving Bryan and hating on the Williams sisters XD
I think this is why I LOVE tekken. Since tekken 2 there was so much story hidden in the presentation. Telling the tale through character quirks, stages, music and atmosphere made tekken a great talking topic for me and my childhood friends. Your videos nailed it. Mad props.
Once again, a good analysis mate (: Never really was a huge fan of Tekken 6's plot but I like how you analysed it, makes me think there's some kind of saving grace. And about the stages, I agree with your interpretation. Whereas Tekken 4's stage designs make them seem like they're interconnected in one geographical location (I'd imagine the way they fight in these stages is that some kind of hidden drone monitors them and relays the results of each fight), Tekken 6 is kinda much the same idea but in a more thematic way; the stages represent the world around the fighters and how Jin's genocidal warfare has affected it. I also like the direction they went with the overall soundtrack, even tho it isn't exactly my favourite. You've got violins and choir vocals singing in the background like some kind of theatre play (Fallen Colony is pretty good). Comparing that to Tekken 7's dubstep heavy soundtrack, at least it makes you appreciate it better. And don't get me wrong, there are a handful of good tracks in Tekken 7, but then other than that, it's just EDM trash with no harmony or melody (looking at your Night G Corp helipad 2nd round theme, looking at you). As for the finale, Jin fighting Azazel, I find the whole thing rather shit. So Jin fucks over the entire world, starts the war, awakens an ancient beast that's "apparently" the source of the Devil Gene, defeats it, but then in the end he still has it anyways. Literally the chorus of In The End by Linkin Park. He tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't fucking matter! What does it mean for the plot? For Jin? I just don't get it... The metaphor of loss that you conveyed was pretty good tho. Again, you're a genius with analysing plots, cheers (: And also. "I really hope Marduk finds you" LMAOO
Actually insane how you've changed my perspective on T6's story. While I still despise most of it, I really did fail to NOTICE the good stuff within. Though, I think I could be forgiven for only being 11 when it released 😅 Really amazing analysis; I can't wait to see how T8 turns out and what you may have to say about it in the future!
Just watched all six parts and loved your coverage of the story and themes. Really wish we got this level of writing in Tekken 7. I also think it's funny that Zafina bound herself to Azazels remains because that makes Jins entire plan in this story a bigger waste of time since A. The devil gene still exists and B. He couldn't kill Azazel
Nina: Jin put everything he had into this one moment. It's not for me to judge, if he was right, or wrong. Maybe you're such a Saint you think yo- Lars: 'pushes Nina down the pit'.
Finally. FINALLY someone see's Jin for who he really is. He keeps on being glorified on being the hero, but the way he just talks down to people really disgusted me and how he thinks he is right about everything. That arrogance and self entitlement really pissed me off when I first played it. Even more so when I shared my opinions on the Tekken fanbase, I get harrassed and insulted for not liking Jin. Which only fueled the fire. And its not because Jin did all the horrible stuff. I felt they could have done something like have Lars push harder and pushed the Jun button. Defeat Jin not physically, but mentally. Convince him that his methods are fruitless, and a spit in the face of the only person he really gave a damn. It might have been the only way, but that wasn't the damnest thing. It's how he thinks he is above that. Jin is ruined forever, and Namco Bandai just milks in this emo kid who never grew up and all the fanbase ate it up, trying to make a murderer a hero, even though he done literally nothing to earn it. This was mostly why I left the series for about a decade. And the only reason I even hung around was cause I made a fanfic called Tekken: Revelation that pretty much continues off from this where I try my best to add more to the storyline where Jin gets forced to suffer all kinds of punishment from grieving and angry people, with a mastermind exploiting the whole worlds anger for his needs, with Lars and company trying to prevent this mastermind from using the peoples hate to recreate Azazel's core to use to create an army of devils. I worked on this for years, and despite being pretty old and had some mistakes, I am still proud with how much work I did to make this an alternative for Tekken 7. To tackle Jin's questionable acts, to humanizing Kazuya more by having him see the few times he was happy, to having Lars reluctant to bringing Alisa to his new mission but knows she is a valuable asset. Not to mention the other characters actually getting involved in the main story, referencing old interactions as well. People can make fun of my writing skills and few mistakes, but I am damn proud I made a complete story like this that truly ends the whole war saga that plagues the Tekken series now. And if I could, I would remaster it so the Tekken fans can have a much more better experience. But I digress. This story is shit with how cynical it is, and the message was lost in translation thanks to Namco Bandai's inconsistent depiction of this stories villain. (yes, Jin is still a villain and your video pretty much beautifully solidifies it) I was gonna comment the previous videos giving out my own take on each of the Tekken games stories. But damn, this game really got me too riled up to ignore. This was the worst video game storylines that I had to deal with through and through personally. And it did have something to say, which could have made it work. But the execution left a bad taste in my mouth, and I can find some solace that I'm not the only one who feels the same way. I been thinking about doing my own critique on this game for a long time. Perhaps I can finally get back to it. I'm done for now, god bless you Gizou and thanks for the video.
Btw, according to Alisa’s Journal entry, Hwoarang was a leader of the Resistance and he shared the same goal with Lars’s Yggdrasil unit to track Jin down. The plot could have make sense to hurt Jin mentally, *IF* Lars decided to work with him. Man, I’m a huge simp for Jin but even I hate this version of Jin so much I want his rival to come snap his neck
@@sonicanvaspost6867 Apparently, the reason for Jin's villainy and character assassination is because Harada wanted Jin to be evil since day one, but the dev team were against it. He got his wish in Tekken 6, but it unfortunately ruined of the most noblest characters for good. Even when Tekken 8 did it's best to redeem him, it left permanent damage on Jin's character.
@@teriosshadow17 which, if I want to be optimistic, this could work so well if they also flesh out Lars as "just some guy with NPC energy that ends up killing everyone", but thanks to Tekken 6, I hate Lars, *with a passion* Also safe to say that Lars and Alisa's inclusions reeks of executives changing script at the last minute
Fantastic video, Gizou. I love that you go in depth with the story (especially when discussing the side characters). I can't wait for you to analyse Tekken 7.
Gizou, do you intend on covering the Tekken anime, Blood Vengeance and the live action Tekken duology in the future? I think you would get a kick out of them.
@@Shiratto IKR just goes to show that fighting games do have some sort of depth to them even before the story mode craze. I Hope he gets popular soon 🤞
I know Tekken never had a great story, but this is the game where it all felt apart. Its bad even by fighting game standards, and the series has never recovered since then. Tekken 7's story mode wasn't much better. This might be a hot take, but I think this series needs a reboot after Tekken 8.
Wow you did an amazing analysis, I love it not only because of the details but you have a different perspective on this game especially because I always felt the tragic theme of this game but everyone kept saying it’s really bad and the story fell apart but it’s really good, I think they did a really good job in giving every character a reason for entering the tournament, they do that in every entry but in this one especially they all had a personal reason not to mention the Scenario Campaign is way better than having to go through the arcade mode over and over Tekken 6 gave a fresh take and really enjoyable mode , everyone liked The Tekken Force mode but everyone says the scenario campaign in Tekken 6 is bad even though it’s the exact same thing !
Man i am here again after year or what. This video is an art. The fallen colony, the azazel, the meaningless... Got the Nier:Automata vibes. Hope to spread your video inside the Tekken community. P.S. - you sound like the t7 narrator in the 1st vid. But with emotions. And a good material, gosh i wouldn't see that all without you
17:50 No words were needed to describe the redundancy of that screen-prompt / upgrade (in all fairness, the upgrade probably affects Raven's / Lars' AI too, but it doesn't make the situation any less awkward) Not gonna lie, as flawed as this campaign may be when put under a microscope, it's always gonna remain am important part of my childhood. The Tekken 6 campaign was an absolute blast! Even though I basically dropped out of the campaign at that exact boss battle since Alisa was literally the only character I desired to play as when I was a kid, so her becoming unavailable royally screwed me to say the least. She's the only character whose moveset I am at least somewhat familiar with to this very day, now that I have actually grown up enough to put an effort into learning movesets for a game-franchise nobody else in my entire town plays. In hindsight, it doesn't come as a surprise that I developed an obsession with the cute robot-waifu I suppose. In any case, I enjoy having a laugh at the silly little details of one of my favourite childhood games, your video is so well-presented and your commentary never feels uncalled for or overly insulting to the game.
1. It's a redundant prompt, but it hurts somewhat. She just left you, and she's upgraded. 2. Alisa was still playable afterwards, you were a silly kid. 3. The game simply deserved the respect I gave it, despite its shortcomings.
@@GizouGitai I am fairly certain that the game tossed me to the character select screen after my dad cleared the Alisa boss battle for me (during which the game auto-swapped me to Lars), Alisa's Panel being blanked out entirely. Yes, she was still selectable if you then went back to the character select screen from the pause-menu, but she was only playable in the stages before she fought you. If you attempt to enter one of the final stages with Alisa being selected as the player-character, the game throws you back into the character selection screen with her panel being blanked out yet again. Whether or not this behaviour changes / gets removed after clearing the final stages, I don't know, I never played them myself back then, and I don't have access to the old 360 as it remains with my parents. I'd have to emulate the game to verify. Regardless, the sentiment I was trying to express is, that the game (from what I vividly recall) actively prohibited you from progressing as Alisa after the point of Jin taking control of her. It wouldn't allow me to enter the final few stages unless I selected somebody else.
I was watching a video about the new monkey ball game. Remembered making a comment on a video asking what the game was cause I thought it was monkey ball, remembered the channel had a funky name, then remember the video was about ace combat. So I search ace combat into my watch history and lo and behold here I am again. Boutta go rewatch the ZEO vids brb
Awesome job with this as always. Not only just the story but covering the whole game and then going in depth on the story as well. Awesome. Will there be one for the 7th game as well?
@@GizouGitai it will. While I happened to be looking for Tekken stuff and you had one of the best breakdowns on it that I could find, it's also your presentation and energy you bring that makes the videos so go. You know your stuff and make quality stuff. I'll be interested to see where you go next, the Tekken stuff is just the icing on the cake.
@@GizouGitai Are you also gonna criticize the main game overall for its unresponsive online mode and its lack of proper practice mode for a next gen game? Probably similar to this rant ruclips.net/video/RF7MGJ6hR7I/видео.html
So Tekken 6 as it was coming out set up a huge confrontation between Kaz and Jin after 5 had kinda written Heihachi out of relevance. Instead, the two never really fight and they have it so Jin's being an evil dickhead not for any reason that makes sense like the Devil Gene corrupting his sense of morality, no no no, but because a rejected Yu-Gi-Oh monster told him he was gonna come back to the world if it became shitty enough and he was all "alright, bet." Then Tekken 7 put Heihachi back IN power only to kill him off for real this time and now with Tekken 8's reveal... we're almost back to where we started with Tekken 6's reveal, only I'm not even sure that Jin's in control of the Zaibatsu this time. Hell, Azazel isn't even dead. And Jin's characterization in the trailer seems to be more in line with how he was in Tekken 4 and 5, wanting to put an end to the Mishima bloodline and the Devil Gene because people like him and his dad should not exist. It's all enough to make me wonder if Tekken 6 was GOING to be the final game with the Mishima feud or whatever but they changed their minds at the last minute. Maybe Harada wanted to give Heihachi more of a sendoff beyond going asplody in a trailer, maybe Bamco just wanted more Tekken games... or maybe it was always meant to play out this way. It certainly doesn't feel like it but idk. Either way, I'm left wondering how things would play out if Azazel was never introduced into the story and if Jin and Kaz were allowed to settle things properly much earlier on.
As far as I can tell, almost everything of Tekken 6 was premeditated other than the story following Alisa and Lars. Those two characters, according to interviews, were only designed when it came time to release to home -- and then they were the protagonists. You can make of that what you will, but I don't believe they ever have proper plans until it comes time to make the home release. They certainly have cool concepts and an overarching theme, and that guides their creation of new characters, and how they plan to implement older ones. How do they twist their stories to meet the new main theme/concept. But not a real plan.
Hey Gizou, do you know the movie Lars And The Real Girl? Both Tekken 6's arcade and that movie was released on the same year, and they have a protagonist named "Lars" coping with a humanoid object. Isn't that a coincidence?
@@GizouGitai Actually its worth watching (and I watched this too due to my relatability to Lars in that movie as I was diagnosed with Level 1 Autism with Aspergers and Anxiety Disorder), because as of today, its still a cult hit, even mental health therapists steps in and analyzed Lars and Alis--ehem, Bianca's relationship there. By its bizarre premise, it may not be worth it. But as soon as you watched the movie further, you'll appreciate Lars' character development in this movie than what Tekken 6 has done to its own "Lars". Don't take my word for it.
Didn't expect a Tekken 6 critique, considering how the Tekken 5 analysis ended. It sounded like some form of final ending. Fresh out of watching the Tekken 6 analysis, the story seems kinda lame, even though watching the videos at least gave me some respect for the attempts at character design if nothing else.
Wait...Does Tekken 6 have a GOOD story? This whole time, I thought it was passable only because Lars and Alisa were sympathetic, but that the Global War thing was simultaneously weird and not well-utilized (until you spoke about how the stages actually show the war going on and how Scenario missions show the war's effects on even common people) and that Jin going after Azazel was more like a subpar, edgy anime where Azazel was inevitable and Jin making him physical enough to kill was "the hard choice, but the right choice" but it was really just vain wish-fulfillment on the writers' part. Is all of this "revenge corrupts you and the memory of those lost" and parallels to the War on Terror really real, or just grasping at straws? I mean, I always thought T6 was kinda crap because the endings were all short and barely did anything with their characters (though, I actually liked the Armor King conspiracy because it's the longest story shown and finally moves past King forgiving or redeeming Marduk and getting on with their lives), but this...this sounds too poignant to be bad, but also doesn't sound like something the team that made Lucky Chloe and Leo's T7 ending could concoct. I...I'm so confused now... ...In other news, you CAN defeat NANCY in arcade (you even get a Trophy/Achievement for it), but it's a tall task and I think it's a fight that you can't turn the timer off for. I only won because I picked up on its move to cut the floor out from under you and spammed Paul's Burning Fist as much as I could. You also get a Tropy/Chievo for clearing Millennium Tower WITHOUT using NANCY, but it's a long and difficult mission that way...Much more fun to walk The Way of the Fax Machine, heh heh. Those optional Scenario Campaign are also hard as crap, heh heh! Kinda disappointing that Devil Jin's is just some weird "What If" episode without much weight to it and I can't remember Mokujin's, but Yoshimitsu's was pretty cool for necessitating you defeat a secret Manji ninja in Steve's stage to find a map leading to the Manji stage; nice bit of gameplay storytelling. Speaking of Yoshi, he DOES fit into the "Revenge for a Lost Friend" motif, but a little differently than everyone else. He did the bulk of his revenge in T5, but actually had to call the crusade off in T6 because his sword's supernatural power was growing out of control and his ending shows him defeating Azazel, but the dark orb pushes his sword over the edge and I think it consumes or destroys Yoshi. While he doesn't spend his story seeking revenge like Armor King and others, he DOES show that personal corruption revenge does to you. His centuries-old sword that never had problems before is suddenly making him violent and even the use of a secondary sword whose sole purpose was to negate his negative karma did nothing to keep Azazel from utterly pushing the first sword beyond Yoshi's control. Yoshi is very skilled, deceptively smart, a compassionate leader and a veritable superhero to anyone he meets, but even he succumbed to anger and even killing what he thought was the source of his anger only pushed him into the abyss. Not sure if that was intentional, but it feels like it fits this video's analysis.
I do believe that it was intentional to parallel the game's events with the War on Terror (which ended as I was writing the video). It's tasteless to have referenced an ongoing war and determined an ultimately political message about it. And that real-life war was a far more complex sociopolitical situation spanning back decades and beyond being a proxy war or fighting a concept, T6's representation of it was a strawman ignoring hundreds of years of sociopolitical/religious complexities, meaning that its political message isn't very insightful. But I view that as my opinion on the subject. It's not my place to criticise a game strictly because I disagree with it.
@@GizouGitai Sorry for a reply that's 4 months out of date, but I think it's very cool that you're willing to seriously analyze and discuss a story's plot and subtext, even if you disagree with them and even find them to be in poor taste.
It's a reference to Marduk's Tekken 5 story where he defeats and carries Anna to, y'know... Nancy being Marduk. I think he'd enjoy watching the Williams in a Sadistic Blood scene
With the fallen colony, i didn’t realize till now it’s the same as the Tekken 5 space colony stage. It’s also says something about how the Mishima influence and other Tekken event may have greatly expedited technology seeing as the timeline is going on at this point in the mid 2000s. Or maybe I’m reading to much into it.
That also kind of implies thematically that war and greed are often the motivation behind such things. The Jacks and other battle related experiments support this.
Most modern technology is highly derivative of war efforts, so it's a good call. If you read into it too literally, Paul's stage in T2 has the Twin Towers in it. T4-7 cannot be any later than 2021 -- coincidentally. But Tekken also has a World Police Force and Millenium Tower. So I don't assume too much parity with our world. The use of technology for something like a Space Colony is more likely an extended analogy as to humanity's overextension of its *power* over the elements. But yeah, maybe reading too much into it. That's a bit POLICENAUTS.
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About Azazel, from the old testament, not Tekken, some believe he's a fallen angel, originally named Azael. Az means brave and El means God (also follows the name convention of other angels. Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, all these names are basically "virtue+god"). However when he was cursed, Azael name was changed to reflect his betrayal and being away from god. A letter was added to separate the Aleph and Lamed of the name Azael to create Azazel (doesn't work well in English, so here's some Hebrew: עזאל, the old name, and עזאזל, the new name).
You'll notice that story is very similar to Lucifer. Whether if they're the same character with different name or just similar characters, that's a great question.
Bonus 1: in contemporary Hebrew, Azazel is basically "damn". A lot of times it just replaces hell (לך לעזאזל means "go to hell")
Bonus 2) The letter Zain could be interpreted as a word on it's own. It either means weapon (כלי זין means a tool of war, מזוין means armed) or just dick. Like, penis, not like an asshole. You could interpret that a man's weapon is his dick. Maybe it's intentional...
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I still love this comment, but I noticed it doesn't really connect to the topic of the video, specifically the context Azazel was brought up at.
Scapegoat is connected to Azazel, but barely. In Hebrew, the term Scapegoat is שעיר לעזאזל, translated roughly as a beast to Azazel. The meaning, a patsie that is to be blamed and sacrificed is intact, but Azazel, the entity, doesn't have a lot to do with the goat.
So yeah, they're connected, but not to the extant that Azazel is the scapegoat. If anything, he's the one the Scapegoat is for...
@@strubberyg7451 nah i just said it because you said the word meant penis
@@neonthunder3261 respect to that. I just re-read my comment and realized something is wrong, so I fixed it...
Tekken 6 is where the story really started to fall apart imo. In Tekken 5, I believe the story was still redeemable. Then Tekken 7 came along and smashed it to even more pieces through wack stuff like Akuma being canon and always having been there since before Tekken 1. That aside, I really enjoyed this analysis, making the story of Tekken 6 seem more interesting, deep and profound than it really is. All your videos follow a nice red line and have a great transition between discussing story, gameplay, characters and other things. I found out about your analysis videos a little more than half a year ago and being a Tekken fan, I instantly got hooked and got very intrigued with your analysis of certain plotpoints, character arcs and endings, as well as the themes of the games themselves. Epic content, can’t wait for the analysis of the totally canon Tag 1 and 2 😎
Honestly tekken 3 was the start to me , Tekken tag is the best of 90s tekken hands down the game isny canon but it really deals up the Classic Tekken story
Tekken 4 is the pinnacle of Modern 2000's tekken from the soundtrack to number of players available to stage design
I'll say Tekken 4 was it. While the story itself wasn't that bad, probably the best out of Tekken 4, 5, 6, and 7, it set ups is what directly lead to the problems of the later games.
Damn, your narration and writing is so good that for a second I believed that Tekken 6 had a good story LOL
That's a hell of a complement, I really tried to fight in T6's corner on this one, even though I'm not fond of it.
Man, tekken analysis are so rare nowadays. These series that you are doing is great my dude, giving a proper analysis of the games qualities and it's lore. You deserve more views, good luck.
The powers in y'all's hands. I can only spread my own shit so far. Most views are coming from those subscribed at this point.
@@GizouGitai Your videos may not be powerful, but they are strong. I'll do my best to have that strength recognized. (；^ω^）
I simultaneously feel like you've made me hate T6's story in a different light, but also made me feel like T6's story was a hidden masterpiece WTF!?!?!? XD
P.S : Never stop loving Bryan and hating on the Williams sisters XD
I think this is why I LOVE tekken. Since tekken 2 there was so much story hidden in the presentation. Telling the tale through character quirks, stages, music and atmosphere made tekken a great talking topic for me and my childhood friends. Your videos nailed it. Mad props.
Bro, when you said that this game is an analogy for 9/11 I absolutely lost it. Great video mate.
Once again, a good analysis mate (:
Never really was a huge fan of Tekken 6's plot but I like how you analysed it, makes me think there's some kind of saving grace. And about the stages, I agree with your interpretation. Whereas Tekken 4's stage designs make them seem like they're interconnected in one geographical location (I'd imagine the way they fight in these stages is that some kind of hidden drone monitors them and relays the results of each fight), Tekken 6 is kinda much the same idea but in a more thematic way; the stages represent the world around the fighters and how Jin's genocidal warfare has affected it. I also like the direction they went with the overall soundtrack, even tho it isn't exactly my favourite. You've got violins and choir vocals singing in the background like some kind of theatre play (Fallen Colony is pretty good). Comparing that to Tekken 7's dubstep heavy soundtrack, at least it makes you appreciate it better. And don't get me wrong, there are a handful of good tracks in Tekken 7, but then other than that, it's just EDM trash with no harmony or melody (looking at your Night G Corp helipad 2nd round theme, looking at you).
As for the finale, Jin fighting Azazel, I find the whole thing rather shit. So Jin fucks over the entire world, starts the war, awakens an ancient beast that's "apparently" the source of the Devil Gene, defeats it, but then in the end he still has it anyways. Literally the chorus of In The End by Linkin Park. He tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't fucking matter! What does it mean for the plot? For Jin? I just don't get it...
The metaphor of loss that you conveyed was pretty good tho. Again, you're a genius with analysing plots, cheers (:
And also. "I really hope Marduk finds you" LMAOO
Great comment
Actually insane how you've changed my perspective on T6's story. While I still despise most of it, I really did fail to NOTICE the good stuff within. Though, I think I could be forgiven for only being 11 when it released 😅
Really amazing analysis; I can't wait to see how T8 turns out and what you may have to say about it in the future!
I'm not fond of the story either. But it achieves what it sets out to do on its own terms, so it's not my place to judge it that harshly.
Damn, I was laughing my butt off when you insulted Nina like that. I was in utter shock🤣🤣🤣
Just watched all six parts and loved your coverage of the story and themes. Really wish we got this level of writing in Tekken 7. I also think it's funny that Zafina bound herself to Azazels remains because that makes Jins entire plan in this story a bigger waste of time since A. The devil gene still exists and B. He couldn't kill Azazel
23:17 "-'cuz your shinobi homie has your back."
Word. I want my shinobi homie back.
You got your wish :)
Nina: Jin put everything he had into this one moment. It's not for me to judge, if he was right, or wrong. Maybe you're such a Saint you think yo-
Lars: 'pushes Nina down the pit'.
I WISH
Lars: Maybe you're such a simp.
Lars: Sparta kicks Nina down the pit
Now that's a true Mishima move.
I can’t believe I just found your channel. Absolutely love your content and can’t wait for more!!
Finally. FINALLY someone see's Jin for who he really is. He keeps on being glorified on being the hero, but the way he just talks down to people really disgusted me and how he thinks he is right about everything. That arrogance and self entitlement really pissed me off when I first played it. Even more so when I shared my opinions on the Tekken fanbase, I get harrassed and insulted for not liking Jin. Which only fueled the fire.
And its not because Jin did all the horrible stuff. I felt they could have done something like have Lars push harder and pushed the Jun button. Defeat Jin not physically, but mentally. Convince him that his methods are fruitless, and a spit in the face of the only person he really gave a damn. It might have been the only way, but that wasn't the damnest thing. It's how he thinks he is above that. Jin is ruined forever, and Namco Bandai just milks in this emo kid who never grew up and all the fanbase ate it up, trying to make a murderer a hero, even though he done literally nothing to earn it.
This was mostly why I left the series for about a decade. And the only reason I even hung around was cause I made a fanfic called Tekken: Revelation that pretty much continues off from this where I try my best to add more to the storyline where Jin gets forced to suffer all kinds of punishment from grieving and angry people, with a mastermind exploiting the whole worlds anger for his needs, with Lars and company trying to prevent this mastermind from using the peoples hate to recreate Azazel's core to use to create an army of devils.
I worked on this for years, and despite being pretty old and had some mistakes, I am still proud with how much work I did to make this an alternative for Tekken 7. To tackle Jin's questionable acts, to humanizing Kazuya more by having him see the few times he was happy, to having Lars reluctant to bringing Alisa to his new mission but knows she is a valuable asset. Not to mention the other characters actually getting involved in the main story, referencing old interactions as well. People can make fun of my writing skills and few mistakes, but I am damn proud I made a complete story like this that truly ends the whole war saga that plagues the Tekken series now. And if I could, I would remaster it so the Tekken fans can have a much more better experience. But I digress. This story is shit with how cynical it is, and the message was lost in translation thanks to Namco Bandai's inconsistent depiction of this stories villain. (yes, Jin is still a villain and your video pretty much beautifully solidifies it)
I was gonna comment the previous videos giving out my own take on each of the Tekken games stories. But damn, this game really got me too riled up to ignore. This was the worst video game storylines that I had to deal with through and through personally. And it did have something to say, which could have made it work. But the execution left a bad taste in my mouth, and I can find some solace that I'm not the only one who feels the same way. I been thinking about doing my own critique on this game for a long time. Perhaps I can finally get back to it.
I'm done for now, god bless you Gizou and thanks for the video.
Btw, according to Alisa’s Journal entry, Hwoarang was a leader of the Resistance and he shared the same goal with Lars’s Yggdrasil unit to track Jin down. The plot could have make sense to hurt Jin mentally, *IF* Lars decided to work with him.
Man, I’m a huge simp for Jin but even I hate this version of Jin so much I want his rival to come snap his neck
@@sonicanvaspost6867 Apparently, the reason for Jin's villainy and character assassination is because Harada wanted Jin to be evil since day one, but the dev team were against it. He got his wish in Tekken 6, but it unfortunately ruined of the most noblest characters for good. Even when Tekken 8 did it's best to redeem him, it left permanent damage on Jin's character.
@@teriosshadow17 which, if I want to be optimistic, this could work so well if they also flesh out Lars as "just some guy with NPC energy that ends up killing everyone", but thanks to Tekken 6, I hate Lars, *with a passion*
Also safe to say that Lars and Alisa's inclusions reeks of executives changing script at the last minute
Fantastic video, Gizou.
I love that you go in depth with the story (especially when discussing the side characters). I can't wait for you to analyse Tekken 7.
Gizou, do you intend on covering the Tekken anime, Blood Vengeance and the live action Tekken duology in the future? I think you would get a kick out of them.
Thank you for your comment on Buff Gigas’ post. Would’ve never found this fantastic analysis series without it.
@@Shiratto no worries. Glad your enjoying Gizou’s Analysis series.
@@MysterioGyllenhaal19 He definitely earned a sub from me. Helped me see some things I didn’t even notice.
@@Shiratto IKR just goes to show that fighting games do have some sort of depth to them even before the story mode craze. I Hope he gets popular soon 🤞
as if i didn't already love fallen colony to death, you made me love it even more, thank you!
9:34 Your hatred for Anna is hilarious. Lmao
I know Tekken never had a great story, but this is the game where it all felt apart. Its bad even by fighting game standards, and the series has never recovered since then. Tekken 7's story mode wasn't much better. This might be a hot take, but I think this series needs a reboot after Tekken 8.
I think a time skip would do enough. Most Tekken players are going to be legacy players, and reboots in beloved series aren't usually taken too well.
Remembering what happened with Mortal Kombat's reboot storyline, how about we don't repeat that colossal fuck up.
Yes…pleeeeeeeeeeeease…I want to like the series again…
Holy shit, I didn't think of comparing T6 to America, wtf. This video is really under appreciated.
Wow you did an amazing analysis, I love it not only because of the details but you have a different perspective on this game especially because I always felt the tragic theme of this game but everyone kept saying it’s really bad and the story fell apart but it’s really good, I think they did a really good job in giving every character a reason for entering the tournament, they do that in every entry but in this one especially they all had a personal reason not to mention the Scenario Campaign is way better than having to go through the arcade mode over and over Tekken 6 gave a fresh take and really enjoyable mode , everyone liked The Tekken Force mode but everyone says the scenario campaign in Tekken 6 is bad even though it’s the exact same thing !
Hate to say it but...
Mishima Zaibatsu: China
G Corporation: US
There, I said it
Considering what is going on right now, where does that leave Russia?
@@oriongold395 ogre?
how df do u not have atleast 50K subs dis is fire
Just watched part 1, your editing and narration is on point
Man i am here again after year or what. This video is an art. The fallen colony, the azazel, the meaningless... Got the Nier:Automata vibes.
Hope to spread your video inside the Tekken community.
P.S. - you sound like the t7 narrator in the 1st vid. But with emotions. And a good material, gosh i wouldn't see that all without you
17:50 No words were needed to describe the redundancy of that screen-prompt / upgrade
(in all fairness, the upgrade probably affects Raven's / Lars' AI too, but it doesn't make the situation any less awkward)
Not gonna lie, as flawed as this campaign may be when put under a microscope, it's always gonna remain am important part of my childhood. The Tekken 6 campaign was an absolute blast!
Even though I basically dropped out of the campaign at that exact boss battle since Alisa was literally the only character I desired to play as when I was a kid, so her becoming unavailable royally screwed me to say the least.
She's the only character whose moveset I am at least somewhat familiar with to this very day, now that I have actually grown up enough to put an effort into learning movesets for a game-franchise nobody else in my entire town plays.
In hindsight, it doesn't come as a surprise that I developed an obsession with the cute robot-waifu I suppose.
In any case, I enjoy having a laugh at the silly little details of one of my favourite childhood games, your video is so well-presented and your commentary never feels uncalled for or overly insulting to the game.
1. It's a redundant prompt, but it hurts somewhat. She just left you, and she's upgraded.
2. Alisa was still playable afterwards, you were a silly kid.
3. The game simply deserved the respect I gave it, despite its shortcomings.
@@GizouGitai I am fairly certain that the game tossed me to the character select screen after my dad cleared the Alisa boss battle for me (during which the game auto-swapped me to Lars), Alisa's Panel being blanked out entirely.
Yes, she was still selectable if you then went back to the character select screen from the pause-menu, but she was only playable in the stages before she fought you.
If you attempt to enter one of the final stages with Alisa being selected as the player-character, the game throws you back into the character selection screen with her panel being blanked out yet again.
Whether or not this behaviour changes / gets removed after clearing the final stages, I don't know, I never played them myself back then, and I don't have access to the old 360 as it remains with my parents. I'd have to emulate the game to verify.
Regardless, the sentiment I was trying to express is, that the game (from what I vividly recall) actively prohibited you from progressing as Alisa after the point of Jin taking control of her. It wouldn't allow me to enter the final few stages unless I selected somebody else.
tf ? so suddenly the story is good somehow????? man, you are crazy good
seriously though it's not a great story but it has good moments
God these videos are so fucking good
The skreets needed this one 💯🔥💯💯
You know, Azazel could've still been a sacrifice and that's why killing him seems like it didn't do jack.
I was watching a video about the new monkey ball game. Remembered making a comment on a video asking what the game was cause I thought it was monkey ball, remembered the channel had a funky name, then remember the video was about ace combat. So I search ace combat into my watch history and lo and behold here I am again. Boutta go rewatch the ZEO vids brb
Hey man, alright, pass the blunt.
Okay but even the “non cannon” games have some semblance of a story going on since elements from both games later became cannon to the main story
When's the story analysis for Tekken Revolution?
Right after Tekken Card Challenge for the Wonderswan.
Awesome job with this as always. Not only just the story but covering the whole game and then going in depth on the story as well. Awesome. Will there be one for the 7th game as well?
In due time.
@@GizouGitai looking forward to it and all your other projects going forward. You definitely have a new fan in me.
@@moneygreen932 Thanks, hombre. I try really hard on this dumb stuff.
I hope the stuff I'm interested in beyond Tekken continues to interest you, too.
@@GizouGitai it will. While I happened to be looking for Tekken stuff and you had one of the best breakdowns on it that I could find, it's also your presentation and energy you bring that makes the videos so go. You know your stuff and make quality stuff. I'll be interested to see where you go next, the Tekken stuff is just the icing on the cake.
@@GizouGitai Are you also gonna criticize the main game overall for its unresponsive online mode and its lack of proper practice mode for a next gen game? Probably similar to this rant
ruclips.net/video/RF7MGJ6hR7I/видео.html
Okay what in god's name is all about the whole "it's an 911 reference?!" Like what the fuck?
2:54 that's the Capitol building, not the white house
Seems someone likes taking the shoes of Lili huh?
Why Lili and Alisa are barefoot?
Not that I’m complaining😏
So Tekken 6 as it was coming out set up a huge confrontation between Kaz and Jin after 5 had kinda written Heihachi out of relevance. Instead, the two never really fight and they have it so Jin's being an evil dickhead not for any reason that makes sense like the Devil Gene corrupting his sense of morality, no no no, but because a rejected Yu-Gi-Oh monster told him he was gonna come back to the world if it became shitty enough and he was all "alright, bet."
Then Tekken 7 put Heihachi back IN power only to kill him off for real this time and now with Tekken 8's reveal... we're almost back to where we started with Tekken 6's reveal, only I'm not even sure that Jin's in control of the Zaibatsu this time. Hell, Azazel isn't even dead. And Jin's characterization in the trailer seems to be more in line with how he was in Tekken 4 and 5, wanting to put an end to the Mishima bloodline and the Devil Gene because people like him and his dad should not exist.
It's all enough to make me wonder if Tekken 6 was GOING to be the final game with the Mishima feud or whatever but they changed their minds at the last minute. Maybe Harada wanted to give Heihachi more of a sendoff beyond going asplody in a trailer, maybe Bamco just wanted more Tekken games... or maybe it was always meant to play out this way. It certainly doesn't feel like it but idk. Either way, I'm left wondering how things would play out if Azazel was never introduced into the story and if Jin and Kaz were allowed to settle things properly much earlier on.
As far as I can tell, almost everything of Tekken 6 was premeditated other than the story following Alisa and Lars. Those two characters, according to interviews, were only designed when it came time to release to home -- and then they were the protagonists.
You can make of that what you will, but I don't believe they ever have proper plans until it comes time to make the home release.
They certainly have cool concepts and an overarching theme, and that guides their creation of new characters, and how they plan to implement older ones. How do they twist their stories to meet the new main theme/concept. But not a real plan.
I like the way you sprinkle your British humor into your videos.
I'm glad it comes off as British hahaha
@@GizouGitai Haha right, it's sarcastic, by the way you actually made Tekken 6 actually have some semblance of narrative meaning
@@dhivaansalig6398 It was always there, the story's just so poorly told on its own.
@@GizouGitai Haha, true
What will you do next? Because I can’t wait for the next video
I'm gonna take a few days off to decide. I took a week off work and I spent it planning, mocking up footage, and finishing the editing on this video.
based
Are you considering doing the Soul series?
There's enough of that on RUclips. You're more likely to see something on Armored Core.
@@GizouGitai okay, thanks:)
Sorry for bothering
Since Jun is comming back and theyre back at Jin being a crying bitch over not being able to protect anyone. This entire story is meaningless.
It could be a good standalone story. But the prestige is a bit lost, yeah.
@@GizouGitai I wouldn't be surprised if Zafina and Claudio do absolutely nothing.
@@ilyamuromez6412 They'll make another useless "mystic with cheap playstyle, barely relevant to the plot" character instead.
@@GizouGitai Jun?
these videoes er so good man. keep it up
Hey Gizou, do you know the movie Lars And The Real Girl? Both Tekken 6's arcade and that movie was released on the same year, and they have a protagonist named "Lars" coping with a humanoid object. Isn't that a coincidence?
With RYAN GOSLING? That's beyond a weird coincidence. Call it synchronicity. It's not worth watching, is it?
@@GizouGitai Actually its worth watching (and I watched this too due to my relatability to Lars in that movie as I was diagnosed with Level 1 Autism with Aspergers and Anxiety Disorder), because as of today, its still a cult hit, even mental health therapists steps in and analyzed Lars and Alis--ehem, Bianca's relationship there. By its bizarre premise, it may not be worth it. But as soon as you watched the movie further, you'll appreciate Lars' character development in this movie than what Tekken 6 has done to its own "Lars". Don't take my word for it.
13:25-13:42+ good point
Didn't expect a Tekken 6 critique, considering how the Tekken 5 analysis ended. It sounded like some form of final ending.
Fresh out of watching the Tekken 6 analysis, the story seems kinda lame, even though watching the videos at least gave me some respect for the attempts at character design if nothing else.
For the Algorithm. Nice vid by the way I enjoyed it.
Excelente
2:52 it’s actually the US Capitol in the background, not the White House. I understand your confusion.
Kinda glad I misidentified it. The 9/11 shit was political enough.
I just commented this, lol
Wait...Does Tekken 6 have a GOOD story? This whole time, I thought it was passable only because Lars and Alisa were sympathetic, but that the Global War thing was simultaneously weird and not well-utilized (until you spoke about how the stages actually show the war going on and how Scenario missions show the war's effects on even common people) and that Jin going after Azazel was more like a subpar, edgy anime where Azazel was inevitable and Jin making him physical enough to kill was "the hard choice, but the right choice" but it was really just vain wish-fulfillment on the writers' part. Is all of this "revenge corrupts you and the memory of those lost" and parallels to the War on Terror really real, or just grasping at straws? I mean, I always thought T6 was kinda crap because the endings were all short and barely did anything with their characters (though, I actually liked the Armor King conspiracy because it's the longest story shown and finally moves past King forgiving or redeeming Marduk and getting on with their lives), but this...this sounds too poignant to be bad, but also doesn't sound like something the team that made Lucky Chloe and Leo's T7 ending could concoct. I...I'm so confused now...
...In other news, you CAN defeat NANCY in arcade (you even get a Trophy/Achievement for it), but it's a tall task and I think it's a fight that you can't turn the timer off for. I only won because I picked up on its move to cut the floor out from under you and spammed Paul's Burning Fist as much as I could. You also get a Tropy/Chievo for clearing Millennium Tower WITHOUT using NANCY, but it's a long and difficult mission that way...Much more fun to walk The Way of the Fax Machine, heh heh.
Those optional Scenario Campaign are also hard as crap, heh heh! Kinda disappointing that Devil Jin's is just some weird "What If" episode without much weight to it and I can't remember Mokujin's, but Yoshimitsu's was pretty cool for necessitating you defeat a secret Manji ninja in Steve's stage to find a map leading to the Manji stage; nice bit of gameplay storytelling. Speaking of Yoshi, he DOES fit into the "Revenge for a Lost Friend" motif, but a little differently than everyone else. He did the bulk of his revenge in T5, but actually had to call the crusade off in T6 because his sword's supernatural power was growing out of control and his ending shows him defeating Azazel, but the dark orb pushes his sword over the edge and I think it consumes or destroys Yoshi. While he doesn't spend his story seeking revenge like Armor King and others, he DOES show that personal corruption revenge does to you. His centuries-old sword that never had problems before is suddenly making him violent and even the use of a secondary sword whose sole purpose was to negate his negative karma did nothing to keep Azazel from utterly pushing the first sword beyond Yoshi's control. Yoshi is very skilled, deceptively smart, a compassionate leader and a veritable superhero to anyone he meets, but even he succumbed to anger and even killing what he thought was the source of his anger only pushed him into the abyss. Not sure if that was intentional, but it feels like it fits this video's analysis.
I do believe that it was intentional to parallel the game's events with the War on Terror (which ended as I was writing the video).
It's tasteless to have referenced an ongoing war and determined an ultimately political message about it.
And that real-life war was a far more complex sociopolitical situation spanning back decades and beyond being a proxy war or fighting a concept, T6's representation of it was a strawman ignoring hundreds of years of sociopolitical/religious complexities, meaning that its political message isn't very insightful.
But I view that as my opinion on the subject.
It's not my place to criticise a game strictly because I disagree with it.
@@GizouGitai Sorry for a reply that's 4 months out of date, but I think it's very cool that you're willing to seriously analyze and discuss a story's plot and subtext, even if you disagree with them and even find them to be in poor taste.
Byran Fury killed me 😂😂
i didnt get that joke with anna , can someone explain 😅
It's a reference to Marduk's Tekken 5 story where he defeats and carries Anna to, y'know...
Nancy being Marduk. I think he'd enjoy watching the Williams in a Sadistic Blood scene
@@chidori7234 OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH *face palms hard* how did i not get that, thank you
28:22 That was the most funny and F***ed up line I ever heard!
Thansk for the heart!
21:00 lmao
why do you hate anna so much wtf
I can't block her lows leave me alone
@@GizouGitai just duck literally just duck
War be like
shiiiit ⊙ˍ⊙
With the fallen colony, i didn’t realize till now it’s the same as the Tekken 5 space colony stage. It’s also says something about how the Mishima influence and other Tekken event may have greatly expedited technology seeing as the timeline is going on at this point in the mid 2000s. Or maybe I’m reading to much into it.
That also kind of implies thematically that war and greed are often the motivation behind such things. The Jacks and other battle related experiments support this.
Most modern technology is highly derivative of war efforts, so it's a good call.
If you read into it too literally, Paul's stage in T2 has the Twin Towers in it. T4-7 cannot be any later than 2021 -- coincidentally.
But Tekken also has a World Police Force and Millenium Tower. So I don't assume too much parity with our world.
The use of technology for something like a Space Colony is more likely an extended analogy as to humanity's overextension of its *power* over the elements.
But yeah, maybe reading too much into it. That's a bit POLICENAUTS.
@@GizouGitai yessss haha, analyzing Tekken is my guilty pleasure. Thank you for these videos!!!
Great vid as always mate!