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- Published on Jun 20, 2025
- The stick figure that started it all.
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41 seconds ago
Imagine how much wrath Victim must feel.
He’s been traumatized for years, trying to forget the pain that was inflicted on him, only for it all, after 4 years to be taken away. And then he finds out the thing responsible is nothing more than a clone of him. A clone who was actually given tools to be powerful. To not be a victim. A tool that, from his perspective, was designed SPECIFICALLY by his creator to come fetch Victim back and continue to make his life HELL.
There are no words to describe how much hate Victim must be feeling towards Alan and TCO right now.
If he had the power, he wouldn't be Victim. He'd be AM.
Y ademas le quito a la persona que ama
it was for a year
I have no mouth and I must scream ahh villain 🗣️🗣️ 🔥🔥
"Hate? Let me tell you how I've come to hate you since I began to live."
The main theme of this episode is that "your actions have consequences".
Alan learned to stop torturing the stick figures and the Chosen One realized that his internet rampage was wrong, but that will not stop victim from having a genuine desire for revenge.
"Violence breed Violence."
@@rauhillah3884 "But in the end it has to be this way"
literally the plot of library of ruina
@AnishBirje-ky9xg Standing here, i realise!...
@ЯрославДьяченко-м2ъ You are just like me
I fully respect the fact that Alan goes through with the narrative that he was a villain/abuser to sentient/sapient stickmen for "a long time" in total even after redeeming himself.
It can be very easy to portray yourself as a benevolent figure in your own story, but Alan retroactively added more crimes on his list for the sake of the story and the explanations.
Not only that, but the effort to create natural consequences and motivations for the actions of Alan, Victim, TCO, and TDL in a non-verbal story is impressive as ever.
Oh, so that’s who the kid was
Exactly another reason why I love this show 🥰🥰🥰
Yeah the whole moral seems to be "actions have consequences"
ngl i like abuser alan, gives him more character rather than just being a semi omnipotent “god” like figure.
Sometimes humans are ruthless
Some notable things.
1. As time passed while he was with Alan, the movemens of Victim became more and more complicated. On top of the senseless violence, Alan was actively learning and practicing animating sticks. This is the reason the others can fight and jump around. Victim's suffering was all so they could move better.
2. Notably, Victim didn't take the cursor-shaped art tools. If anything, I think it's because he couldn't even bear to touch those.
Oh snap these are good notes
I just realised that the person who was in the latest ava animation (the Victim). after everyone went to newgrounds and brought back. When agent's memory was in testing the person who was testing appeared a bit dark pastel green who was in the king animation as one of the person to activate the minecraft world in real life for orange king son. Also if you noticed purple and his family were also in the scene where there was a war in newgrounds
After this video, it now makes sense why in AvA 2 Alan had a pure Tools or Weapons vs. TCO session. Basically, that's what he probably used on Victim.
And the worst of all, Victim has been filled if so mush vengeance he might want TCO killed so he can avenge thos who he killed
Its just you gotta know what to feel and alan shows that nicely and interestingly
The amount of pain I felt when the "To be continued" popped up is extraterrestrial. Alan, I mean it with the bottom of my heart, your series can be directly compared to the million dollar movies. Not just tbe lore, the music and sound effect you use aswell, just extraordinary. Please take you time to produce these masterpiece.
THIS IS REALLLL
10/10 episode, would’ve been an 11 if not for the cliffhanger
Million dollar movies aren't this good
very real
@@CreeperCat0407 well that's basically him. He always left us with cliffhangers
This is literally a:
Victim: "You took everything from me..."
TCO: I don't even know who you are..."
Moment
Fr
end game reference
Fr
LMAO FRRR
So true
(Updated) Lore update(I'll consider release date of each episodes as the time these events took place):
2006 - Victim was created, tortured for months.
2007 - Victim escaped, The Chosen One was created and then later trapped by anti-virus.
2011 - The Chosen One escaped, The Dark Lord was created to destroy The Chosen One but later teamed up with him. Destroyed Alan's pc and invaded the internet. This was when Victim celeberated his 4 years anniversary after Rocket Corp. Everyone disintegrated, Mitsi died. The Chosen One also started to realize his wrongdoings at this time.
2012 / 2013 - Purple's father left the family, his mother later died, leaving Purple all alone by himself.
2014 - The Second Coming was created, Alan changed his perspective on stick figures and befriended them.
2015 - The gang discovered Minecraft, Herobrine possessed Red and was defeated later on.
2017 - Minecraft rediscovery. Green and Blue met Purple, which was a king at the time. They entered The End, Purple stole the Dragon Egg and got overthrown.
2018 - Dark Lord created Virabot and sent it to Alan's pc, Dark Lord vs Chosen One, Chosen One saved Alan and the stick gang from Virabot, they followed him into the portal. Chosen One vs Dark Lord again. Dark Lord wore the Viraband, Alan's join the fight, everyone died. Second Coming awakened and defeated Dark Lord and revived all.
2020 - King Orange lost his son, wanted revenge on Minecraft, got the command block, hunted the stick gang, met Purple and began his plan. He later got 2 Minecraft Blocks and destroyed Minecraft but Second coming reversed it and saved everyone. King Orange and Purple redemption.
2023 - Chosen One is being hunted down, the mercenaries captured him and Second Coming back to Rocket Corp. Victim vs Chosen One. Victim interrogated Chosen One and found Alan. The stick gang's rescue attempt failed, yellow was captured.
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Bro this comment is underrated
Literally
fr
I need more prediction of this one
This is how you create a sympathetic villain. Victim is justified in how he feels with the way he's been treated. He was broken down, escaped and built himself up only to be broken again as the past comes back to haunt him. How he goes about it doesn't make it right but can anyone really blame him from having such crippling PTSD that it becomes what is driving his anger and bitterness? I also love how Smith starts out as a security guard. Everything is building up fantastically.
KING'S STORY WAS A BRUTAL ORIGIN STORY, BUT VICTIM'S IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL
The entire time I was just waiting for the explosion. We all knew it was coming. Though this does somewhat contradict previous lore in that... When TCO and the Dark Lord were on their rampage spree, Newgrounds was one of the times TCO was shown to have held back or been uneasy about it. Yet he just blew Mitsi to bits.
@@GoldyLag I KNOW RIGHT!?
Alan's villain arc before orange and co
Fr, the reason why he wanted Chosen One stick figure captured let alone had a grudge against him
Yeah, instead of one person Victim lost almost everyone.
Fun fact: March 15, 2007 was the day Victim escaped
March 15, 2007 was also the day Animator vs. Animation II was made, when the Chosen One was created.
Alan didn't even wait before trying to torture another stick figure.
You really were a monster, Alan.
"Well done. Here come the test result: You are a horrible person. I'm serious. That's what is says: A horrible person. We weren't even testing for that"
@@G0uda_ "I've been real busy being dead, you know, AFTER YOU MURDERED ME!"
@@Goldstandard_1 "You are not a good person. You know that, right? Good people don't get up here. "
was
@@chxl63 was a monster*
Truly… the one that got away.
Victim found new life elsewhere, one where he wasn’t tortured and killed multiple times over. He built a business, provided an easier living for his kind, and on top of all that, found love…
…and lost it.
That loss is what ultimately drove him to hold onto the resentment and anger towards not just The Chosen One, but the Animator as well.
This is definitely one of those series where you kinda sympathize with the villain. He had it all, till chaos struck, and he lost it all.
King Orange - lost his son
Victim - lost his love
Alan sure knows how to make reactions
Great villains are written to be in a way relatable, where their evil actions can be easily understood when you are placed in their perspective
And Alan did it all without a single line of dialogue.
This man is not only a legendary animator but an insane story writter
The Lord Dark:lost his Killer
I hope TDL make a reoccurance because his defeat is ambigous
@@DisvordyAssuming he's not dead, if he comes back, it'll probably be next season. I'd love to see him get more development and become less of a caricature, but.. after this, I'm not so sure anyone else would be eager for that.
The problem is that Dark was never given any nuance, so there's nothing left to expand on. His brand of villainy was really flat and generic. If he were to come back as a full-blown bad guy, it would just be a trite repeat of Season 2. But if he were to be redeemed, or even made neutral, people would probably still be mad, becuase many don't think he deserves a second chance (plus, if Victim gets redeemed, then I can see people getting tired of every villain getting redemption).
It's a shame though. I would've loved to see more of his dynamic with Chosen when they're not destroying everything. But I guess that's all up to interpretation now.
What I find crazy is that his name reflects the core of his character. He went through the consequences of Alan’s actions, TCO’s actions, TDL’s actions. He is the Victim of all this.
its him ' victim ' the first Alan stick figure of AvA series finally got his own episodei cant believe its been so long since his first appearance , we finally reach this part. Thank you Alan and his team working on this beauty series.
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HOW DID YOU MAKE THE STICKMAN?
@@naimyasin2624I think he is a membe4
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:_AlanOrange
18:50 I feel bad not only for Victim, but for Agent. Not only he witnessed death of his good friend, but he then had to do it AGAIN
You can see him trying to take off the memory scanner 😭
Poor Agent or agent Smith/shady whatever what u want to call him
And Agent also has to face Victim about the death of Mitsi 😢
He was like "I am so sorry , i couldn't save her in time"
@@aethous9163 poor man was crying when he had to re wind
13:59 Smith is a good friend of Victim and Mitsi. It's not surprising that he is also traumatized (and guilt-ridden) by her death, not to mention that he witnessed it firsthand. This also explains his obedience (and perhaps sympathy) towards Victim, given that they have lost what is important to them.
ma poi, è collegata (in parte) anche la storia di purple
I think he had some feelings toward Mitsi so her death hitted his as hard as it did to Victim
@@kuronya3582You could say agent had feelings for Mitsi too but their friendship is mutual and he respects Victims boundaries and relationship you could say he is a chill guy but serious about his job
Yeah :)
@@Silvergalaxy7383 Agent being a chill guy seems canon until the canon event.
i have a theory that the Alans stick figures inherit their powers from the wishes of the creator when theyre made. he named his first stick figure "Victim" though he lacks special ability, he has a exceptional crafting skill, and knows how to use tools (not only in this video, but in AvA 10 "The Box" as well.) perhaps because he was abused for months in a "creative" way by Alan. the second stick figure, he named "The Chosen One" and the third "The Dark Lord", both has a similarly destructive power, the latter being bloodthirsty evil. now, i think TSCs special power is double meaning on "animation" as in "life giving", unlike other stick figures, TSC was a frame of an animation. TSC is the only stick figure that can animate a drawing (seen in AvA 4, 9 and multiple times in Actual Shorts) , make emojis come to life (as seen in AvA 4), this power also allows him to "reanimate" terminated animations (also seen in AvA 9). also worth noting, that when the flash animation is uploaded and comes to life, its in the form of green particle, similar particle is seen when theyre destroyed, or brought back, the same color is seen when TSC awakens his power (as seen in AVA 9.) i have a feeling, that the title of the series "animator VS animation" isnt just talking about Alan as the animator, but TSC as well. now, its only a matter of time until Victim realized the TSCs power to "reanimate" the dead.
underrated comment- this definitely deserve more likes
@@MissSociallyAwkward true
The green does match
That also explains the reason why he was able to shoot the lasebeams. He was jusr reanimating the chosen ones powers. But his turn green.
Alan: Tco your power is elements
Tdl your power is energy
Tsc your power is *green*
Tsc: wait what?
Alan: *green*
No wonder this took a whole year. This is legitimately a work of art. I love nothing more than story lore and characters come to life which you execute perfectly. Connecting every single major event in the series at once is really impressive. You're honestly a mastermind and a master animator.
@SirWiggs i think they still would have done it much faster if they weren’t working on so many other stuff
@@cocospacial8573 true
A whole tricking narrative?
This worth waiting
I would wait no matter how many years it takes for new episodes
@@kamirokira To think this series just about 19 years old, almost a whole two decades of animator vs animation is crazy
There’s something I just love so much about how pure hearted and kind Mitsi is, because it’s like a reflection of the pure wonder, fun, and innocence of the childhood creativity that created her.
Well said bro 🫂
She even helped Victim before she was officially born. While she was being uploaded, her green data (particles) helped push Victim's rocket to the world they both ended up in. Her entire existence has been connected with Victim even before the beginning.
And of course Alan makes us love a character then kill it 💀
@@Blitz-7i true, Alan is the true vilian all the time.
Imagine if grace was there when mitsi got killed lmao
What's really tragic is that victim had became content, he was ready to move on- only to have it brutally ripped away from him again. It builds a compounding hatred in victim for Alan and his creations.
And at the end of the day, it's hard to blame him. He has no way of knowing TCO and Alan have moved on; victim still wants (and frankly *deserves*) revenge.
14:02
The fact that he STILL has hallucinations about Alan but ignores them completely shows how much Victim has improved thanks to Misty and although it's clear that he'll never forget the torment he went through, he decides to focus on his future.
Another proof of his good heart is that, by that time, with his company in full swing, Victim HAS ALL THE NECESSARY RESOURCES to take revenge on Alan (like sending him a virus like Dark Lord did or something else) but he decided not to do it and Be happy with his wife and his new life.
:AlanOrange
@Dabi_Toya1Assuming he even knew where Alan's PC was (remember, the current plot is about him trying to locate Alan, unlike TDL, who could do so with ease). Your point still stands though.
@Dabi_Toya1 Absolutely. If it weren't for TDL & TCO (though really it's more TDL's fault) then victim would have never found the motivation to hunt down Alan. It makes me wonder how they'll resolve the conflict.
@@vaingloriant Not without a few punches, collateral damage and casualties.
Having the balls to portray yourself as the villain and torturer of your animation series is absolutely incredible especially when you make yourself get character development and become a better person
The fact that so many things connect from this one episode shows Alan's great storytelling, how he can flesh out Mitsi from this one episode, sympathise with Victim through the trauma he went through, and why he hated TCO in the first place! This is amazing storytelling, and I love it! But now, we will have to wait.... on the next one...
Edit: I made a video of oversimplifying this whole thing on my channel!! Thanks for the likes!!
Yeah bro, I can't wait for AVA 12 to come out 🤩
I love this episode but there are some contradiction like for example before Alan just erased every memory from his laptop including the victim here it seems to be retconned and the choosen one was known for holding only the dark lord was doing most of the killing here tye choosen is doing the killing.
There's also purple's parents in there
Now to wait another year 😊
@@Oyakinya-Izuki
Actually the Newgrounds war (that's what I call it) happened before Pink died and Blue left.
SO MANY bangers dropped today:
- First Cory came back outta nowhere
- Then Digital Circus ep. 4 dropped
- And NOW we finally get AVM 11
*Ava11
@@specialbitter_sweet_gift9034 Oop- yeah ,:D
wait ep.4 dropped today? gotta watch that now brb
what is cory?
@@heatclief6256 CoryxKenshin.
I think I see where this is going.
Anyone remember the montage from the Virus parts of AvA? Where it shows shots of TCO and TDL going on a rampage? By the time they hit Newgrounds, TCO was completely disarmed. As in, his flames were totally out, and he had his arms up as if pleading to TDL or begging for forgiveness at the world they were destroying.
In other words, TCO had renounced his destructive ways by the time the events of this episode occurred. That destruction was all TDL, I guarantee it.
Not convinced yet? Look at the destruction shown in this episode. All fireballs; explosive orange projectiles fired at high speed. This is NOT TCO’s MO. His main projectile attacks are constant fire streams and red eye lasers. It isn’t until the fight against the Virus that we see more developed powers out of him, like lightning summoning, fire punches and antivirus(?) waves.
TDL, on the other hand, started spamming projectiles on day one. They were his signature move until gaining the Virus powers, and his strongest attack pre-ViraBand in The Showdown was a huge explosive fireball.
Additionally, notice how in both the perspective of The Agent and the cameraman who recorded a shot from The Showdown, TDL is curiously absent. This isn’t something you do by accident; this is Alan showing us how Victim’s limited knowledge of the situation has laser-guided his vengeance on the wrong stick figure.
This is definitely going to be a major plot point later.
Side Boat: I like that Alan(the creator) isn’t retconning his actions(the character) from AvA 1-3, where he is actively malicious and some might even say sadistic towards his own creations. He *could* have just hand waved that away, but he didn’t. More than that, he went in depth on the mindset of Victim after what he went through. Trauma, PTSD, and full blown panic attacks all caused by what Alan did. Victim is *deeply* scarred, and it is entirely Alan’s fault. I’m pretty sure that’s gonna be a major plot point too, when Alan inevitably interacts with Victim again.
Say, doesn’t that green energy look almost exactly like the energy TSC started using in The Showdown? The energy that was capable of perfectly restoring both his own body and his deleted(not just killed by injury, but LITERALLY DELETED BY A CODE-DEVOURING VIRUS) friends?
I think there just might be a happy ending for Victim yet. He deserves it more than any of the cast so far. Poor guy.
@@pixeldreams5193 needs more likes bruv
I agree but even if the Chosen One was less murderous, he was still in a killing spree before entering Newgrounds so he still deserved the torture Victim gave him in “The Box” episode. What make this even worse is that the Chosen One was the reason why Dark Lord became a villain in the first place so even if the red stick figure was the one who killed Victim’s love interest, he is still an accomplice. Plus, unlike Victim and The Dark Lord, the Chosen One was evil at birth so yeah.
welp lets see how alan is gonna make the next episode!! Im very excited for it!!!!!
Plus the Chosen One wasn’t really thoughtful because he took the Second Coming (who told him he doesn’t know how to use his power or know he has them) into a fight he stared, endangered him in the process and indirectly the Stick Gang when they came to rescue their friend.
we need TSC to learn how to use his powers he knows he has thim now he just needs to learn how to use them everyone expressly victim deserves a happy ending well the dark lord does not he got what he deserved and even that was to nice in my eyes expressly after this ep
I still can't believe how Alan makes animations for 17 years and manages to tell everything WITHOUT WORDS
God, you NAILED that trauma response from Victim when first landing through Newgrounds. I'm... almost worried, with how accurate you got it.
if "based on a true story" pops up i won't drop my jaw, i would not have a functional brain to respond to that
Yo
4:40 DUCK!
@@Mini_cat21_original gurt
16:07 Purple and their family!!
Wow I didn't expect to find you here
I saw them too
So it means purple will definitely also hate the chosen one and dark lord
Holy crap it is!!!!
Oh my I never noticed!
I just realized now that I've been watching this series for 18 years. 18 years since the original video was released to the world. _18 years_ since Victim was first drawn... that is a _weird_ feeling.
**edit** For those who are confused - the original animation was posted on Newgrounds in 2006. It was uploaded here in 2007.
@@TrackpadProductions yes
Wow you're an OG.
Uhhh. Alan’s oldest video is 17 years old
Wow, you must be so lucky to encounter AvA 1 that early.
@saditahmed7517The video on RUclips specifically is 17 years old, it was originally uploaded on Newgrounds a year earlier.
It's very interesting to see that in this episode TDL was not present in Victims POV. There was no trace of him even in the conspiracy room at the end. Also worth considering that in the previous episode, even though we see TDL in TCO's memories, neither Victim or his henchmen seem to react at all to his presence, like they're so laser focused towards TCO and Alan that they missed the big evil elephant in the room
@@blazerker1640 si, Pero creo que para Victim Alan es el culpable, osea al no estar victim, creo a The Chosen One como reto, cuando está este fuera de control crea a The Dark Lord para matar al TCO, básicamente Victim aunque piensa que Alan envío a the Chosen One para matarlo, lo culpara por crear a esos 2 que mataron a la mujer que ama
16:07 I think this could be the reason Purple's dad left.
He got traumatised by what happened in Newgrounds that he wanted his son to be strong enough so that he could protect himself and his mom which could be why at first Purple and his dad's fights were at first for fun, but towards the end of their relationship looked more like training.
[Edit] I forgot to state that Purple was always being trained by Indigo, I'm just stating that this event could be a possible reason for why Indigo started to get harsh with it.
also thanks to one of you guys in the comments, I didn't even know Indigo had a name lol.
And Purple ended up having to search for his father, because he wanted to prove that he's not a failure!
and he/she? did it too. he proved himself to king orange as like his dad.
@@Watermealone mostly AvA and AvM, but yeah
Crazy to think we will maybe see why orange got into the maths things
@ІсаєнкоАртемmaybe he TCO think he can open his power again by doing math and geometry. Lol, iam just joking tho._.
Creating a synpathetic villain is hard but you make it look easy. There was a time I thought the era of stick animation had passed and would never reach the peaks of the old days, but you keep putting on show that stick figure animations can be more than just the ludicrously choreographed anime fights.
I was gonna make one but everything was difficult.
This is no longer a villain, and there are no villains here. Because he was mocked, destroyed many times, his friends were taken away
Yeah
This channel represents that the protagonist can also be the antagonist
Victim isn't a villian. He's a victim of abuse, and traumatized, suffering ptsd from it and later the loss of his friends and loved one.
His actions are truly justified.
16:08 i love the fact you included purple and his family because that confirms it, animation vs minecraft and animator vs animation are, in fact, in the same universe.
then at one point, both series will collide, and we may see another showdown
i hope purple and king appear in this AvA season
this also implies that purple's mom died from the massacre too
EDIT: ok i get the point already so stop replying the message and blowing up my notifs
Just different times
It was unnecessary but a good inclusion
15:45 This part, just little longer than 10 seconds, surpassed all movies and videos I have ever seen. I'm so excited about watching ep.12, even if I don't know when it releases.
Mitsi: Don't worry, I can fix him 😊
TDL & TCO: Come again?
Victim:NO PLEASE NO
Agent: MITSI NOOOOOO!!!!!
And angel Mitsi now see what Wictim do... It's too hard to understang who is right.
@ДіМаАнtsc is right..
I hope Victim wins, or at least becomes as good as king Orange
So that’s why Victim went from black to grey, the process of forcefully transferring to the outer net made his skin tone the same as the hair tone of Mitsi. And I only knew that lady for twenty minutes, but I will say this, she will be missed. No wonder Victim went revenge crazy, he finally escaped from a cycle of torture, only to meet someone who brought him genuine happiness. But that someone was taken away by what he assumed to be the very person responsible for his suffering.
Now we also know that Rocket corp originally wasn't a weapons and technology research facility it was merely a chain of stores that sold electronics.
That guy with the glasses isn't even a mercenary he was just a regular security guard before the attack, victim and glasses guy just have the same goals they both hate TCO
@@AiRPasternak TCO and the Animator, not TSC.
I mean, he's kinda right. Both TCO and The Dark Lord were Alan's creations, one for fun, just like Victim, and the other to try to defeat TCO, but turned on him. In the end, Alan was the source of all his suffering. The only thing he doesn't know is the TCO and Alan aren't friends. Their goals aligned during the fight against TDL, but it isn't like they're buddies. I just keep wondering if all the destruction to fellow animations was what turned TCO "good" or if it was something else about the brutality of TDL
Colour change was made so we can differentiate between victim and chosen
@@eduardomoncada1 Regardless of whether or not they consider each other ‘friends,’ Victim and company were _relatively_ clear in the line of questioning, first taking personal revenge, then indicating the cursor, then searching the memories.
TCO choosing to interrupt the brainscan would indicate _more_ that they’re allies than not.
9:02 was just an example of how well Alan can portray different emotions. Dude was able to give victim a full on panic attack and made it look so easy to recognize.
Definitely. I recently started to admire how fear and anxiety and that kind of negative emotions are portrayed, but I never thought I would see a stickman have a panic attack
The ambience and the way of the music and the perspective of how you look at it. It's like literally just a movie. The details of him shaking and literally taking cover.
him and krinkles have mastered animating body language
The distorted vision, the muffled sounds, the visual hyperventilation - all of it's done to perfection! Just before the sun pierces the clouds you can even see the image cloning and going out of focus, reflecting Victim's perspective even further!
All of these are symptoms that occur during all-out panic and it's wonderfully done! Kudos to the team for the details!
I dont think alan is the sole animator anymore. This is a team project now
I got way too attached to Mitsi in these 10 minutes and got irrationally sad when she died😭
I hope TSC can bring her back since he's been shown to have brought back his friends.
Also poor Victim has been through so much. Then, he finally had a chance to heal, to move on. Mitsi and Victim deserve to be reunited.
It's finally here. And it was amazing. I cried at _that_ moment. The way the previous episodes were tied together was so well done. And all the cameos were great too.
This episode really shows that despite Alan not abusing his stick figures anymore after AvA 4 that his actions still have severe consequences...
This is extremely true...
Wow
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Man, Mitsi and Victim have this strong couple energy they give off in a span of just over 10 minutes of screen time, but the way she died like that was just so tragic.
And those green particles just confirms that TSC has the power of creation, and if he could bring his friends back, I believe he could bring back Mitsi too! This whole animation was 18 years worth of lore all compressed in a single 20 minute video, nothing short of incredible.
atleast we know a gender of a stick figure
maybe that's why victim was suprised at the sight of, not another clone of himself created by the same Alan having insane power, but by the power having the same green color he saw years ago
@@forcoolguys1534 We know all the stick Gang, and the sticks made by Alan are male (most of it confirm thanks to Green's channel Q&A)
Wouldnt his power also bring back king oranges son, purples mom, and possibly.... The dark Lord?
Traería al hijo del rey naranja , al señor oscuro y a Mitsi pero la madre de morado no ya que eya murió de causas naturales
Alan, out of ALL animations you made, this one yanks at my heart strings the most.
First was the abuse victim endured, then his escaping to overcoming his trauma. Meeting Mitsi and friends, starting their "Rocket" Repair Company. And when The Chosen One and Dark Lord attacked, I explained everything. The tech, motivation, all of it. This whole animation series, in my honest opinion, is worthy of being turned into a full MOVIE franchise
And all of this was done without any dialogue. People, take notes.
@@chadgorosaurus4898 FR
i agree about all that. absolute cinema
Fr
Why am I thinking about UNDERTALE ?
I felt my neurons exploding with SO MUCH INFORMATION, MY GOD 15:59 THE PURPLE FAMILY!!!???
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT, this man keeps putting so much emotion into faceless stickfigures and gives them such heartfelt stories that give characters genuine reasons to hate our protaginests, and ties it in with things we saw in past episodes, WHY CANT I PAY FOR THIS. (this is all coming from a place of love)
doesnt he have a patreon or kofi? if not i know he has a merch store
@cozmiccozmogamin8907 i think what he meant is how do we get this masterpieces for free
Real
How did you manage to make us so fond of a character in 20 minutes? I'm on the verge of tears.
The fact that Alan is able to make me care more about a character in 20 minutes than some movie producers can in several hours is a real testament to his story telling ability. Especially since said characters are _literal stick figures with no facial features._ Like, it's actually insane how impressive Alan is!
Reminds me of the Shoji episode from MHA S7. How do you make someone completely forget, even just first a bit, that a complete minor side character from the start wasn’t a main character , entirely?
This is exactly what happened:
1) humanize the character: Make him like those he appeals to.
2) write her a story; a story with a bad memory. Then increase his human side with the story. Justify what you have done and will do.
3) Soundtracks Music is very important; it intensifies the feeling.
Especially in Alan and his team's work, I notice that they use music in a “ taking no chances” way.
The storytelling even without a single word spoken is just beyond incredible.
what about “dinner's readyyy”
Yea
It's almost like Wall-E
@relojac ok 2 word lol
almost like a skibidi toilet...
I used to watch this show as a kid.
Encountering Caramel Pain the song of Suisei.
I instantly reconised it might have been inspired by this.
Just to come back and watch the show.
And now i notice that this show is still being continued!
Cant wait for the next episode!
Imagine being tortured hours everyday, one day you found peace, but that peace was broken shortly after. Man, poor Victim can't even catch a break
He did but only for 4 years
@@benluka1811”only 4 years” BRO THATS LONG HAS F-
@@ricerrx9875 and still, it was taken away, and even more angering, by the creation of the man, who tortured him every single day
@@ricerrx9875 He’s 20+
@Fanumtax69420 oh
I just noticed that Alan becker went from making animations for fun in 2006 to making an entire freaking series full of lore and adventures and backstories until now- This episode was really worth it to wait for a year! Thanks for keeping us entertained, Alan Becker.
i totally agree
Just noticed?
Just noticed??
Just noticed???
Just noticed????
*shows the most horrifying, brutal and depressing character backstory known to man*
"Buy our new plushies!"
The AvG reaction version of the video makes this even better
In character for Alan
Plushie😄
"Now that you have seen this, buy this plushie of a dead stickman figure" 😃
That's Alan for you 😂😂😂
14:15 the sheer sense of dread i got from seeing the 2011 in back was UNRIVALED
I knew something was gonna happen and it still hit me like a train
I actually wonder what happened to Newgrounds in 2011 now. Was the apocalypse scene in this episode based on a real error?
@@lilysamvelian9970nothing in particular from what I’ve searched, so it might be in a fictional universe
I love it, Victim having PTSD on the mouse cursor and having hallucinations about Alan torturing Victim is in my opinion opens his character a lot and on his perspective Alan and Tco is the villain on his POV
You clearly were braindead enough to forget Victim started off with wrecking Alan's PC immediately. How does it entitle to Victim being the abused one?
@@dragroch5536 the first couple second of AVA 1 is literally Alan throwing a massive block at him
@@dragroch5536 No. This is heavily implied to be some kind of game to Alan. Alan wanted to fight him in the first place also Alan attacked first
@dragroch5536 His name is VICTIM.
Probably an ENTIRE YEAR of his existence was to be tormented by Alan, which was expertly shown at the start. He tried to fight back, but he failed, and Alan continued to torture Victim.
@Paleofan1211a game to him, yes. But he didnt want to fight just played "how to kill your stickfigure in X amount of ways" cuz otherwise he wouldnt name it "Victim"
Can we appreciate the cinematography??? The way that for a show without voice acting, Alan and the team managed to perfectly convey Fear, desperation, trauma, love, hope, healing and unadulterated rage through visuals only. Holy. Crap.
Heck yeah. I am just in total awe at how stellar Alan's work is, I've just formed a small obsession to it after realising he took it to a whole other level... better than 80% of movies I've ever watched, and not a WORD of dialogue or facial expression.
Seeing victim's heart and mind being healed by Mitsi is the most heartwarming anything I've seen in any form of storytelling.
Unfortunately it didn't last long when mitsi died
@@pamfilipinas9102 XD
@marcusalexanderseguradelos7837 indeed my friend 💀🙏
Qual aplicativo ele usou
And then all of the healing was undone
13:23 The art here is absolutely STUNNING
Tragedy. That is the only word that can properly describe Victim. Not only was this poor guy tortured for years, but found someone who cared for him and started a thriving company, only for it all to be taken away from him by his torturer's creations. I'm honestly rooting for him now. After everything he's gone through, he deserves it
And what amazes me most is that you were about to tell such an emotional and beautifully animated story without any of the characters talking. This series is truly something special. Thank you Alan and your team for making something so beautifully amazing. Your work is one of a kind
I can tell alot of people are now gonna root for victim to win now
yeah. victim expirenced soo much.
he was tortured for a full year by his creator. and then he finally escaped and found someone
who cared for him and he could trust so he thought he will be safe but then only 4 years later it was all taken from him by his own clone created by his creator. one who was not created to be tortured, but to torture. so im 100% sure victim got all the right to be the villain in the stickmen universe. i really hope victim will have a good ending. but i think that for him to have a good ending he needs to learn who deafeted the dark lord, who was created by alan to manipulate the chosen one. and why alan did all of this.
It also explains why Victim has an interest in TheSecondComing. From what Victim has seen, TheSecondComing had the ability to create and recreate things. To the Victim, he thought that maybe, just maybe...
...he could recreate Mitsi.
Honestly, I’m thinking about how TSC is gonna react when he learns about what Alan was doing for that year with Victim
@Neuwey331 i dont think he was aware of the second coming. In the video the stickman recorded we only see the chosen one and Alan's mouse. The second comign at the time was at the side watching or either already deafeted the darklord and headed to the control panel to revive his friends.
I love how Alan shows emotion and gives a sense of understanding from everyone of his stick figure's view, so much so that not a single one feel like the "villain". They all have their own reasons why they do what they did and for valid reasons. Not a single one can truly be called the villain.
@ChromiumCharge What about the Dark Lord?
@@standinginthelimelight He’s definitely the most blatantly evil out of the villains we’ve had, aside from maybe a few one-offs in AvM
@@standinginthelimelightdark lord was just made to destroy I guess. And he got angry when chosen betrayed him
Allan?
My guy allan started this tho? It's his fault? I'm not saying he didn't change, I saying he had no right to do that to victim in the first place
I love the fact that in 17:28 we could see the hesitation, guilt and regret the chosen one is feeling right now simply by his body language, while the Dark Lord stands proud and even has the audacity to ask for a high five.
Yeah, it was like:
“Yes, another website destroyed! High five dude!”
“Uh, sure.”
16:15 The references here are in insane, a madness combat dummy, OG classics like the banana guy, even a badger from the badgers video, years of my life in one part of an animation.
I think I know where this is going. The opening montage of young Alan tormenting Victim is more than just showing the breadth of Victim’s trauma, it’s showing a fundamental aspect of Stickfolks existences. Every time young Alan typed ‘Victim’ into the element name, it was always the same individual who was brought into existence, all the same memories, no matter how many times he’s died.
What I’m trying to get at here is that in order to finally stop Victim’s plans; Alan, TSC, and the gang are going to have to track down Grace and her PC to get her to re-upload Mitsi to try to get Victim to stop. Likely in a race against time before Flash is shut down.
GENIUS
Yessss I can't wait! The boy seriously needs that girl back or he really wont be able to recover I feel like. He's seriously been through hella too much!
THE FLASH GETTING SHUT-DOWN CALLBACK
o7 for the fallen 😢😞
nah that wont cuz there will be another cliffhanger i now cuz thats the way alan has posted every other
No race against time, Alan's PC in "Wanted" says 2023, Flash died in 2020.
Although the rest of this could still happen probably.
I like how from victim’s perspective, the protagonists are all basically heartless villains, wanting to torture him, because he is a victim. Bravo Alan, I see the insane potential of story writing this has to offer.
The victim, playing victim.
@@tipherethestebanSCO thats what i was thinking bro
Bro congrats Alan the one who tortured victim and caused tco to do that rampage
@@vrexyyzeditz yea lol the only protagonist that could possibly be the key to getting Mitsi back is no other than TSC
Li for a new g g is the only one that I am so happy
THERE IS A CRIME SCENE IN MY CHEST. MURDER ON MY HEART.
Seeing Victim suffer for half a year, and escape with severe PTSD is one thing. But to see him overcome his PTSD, with large help from Mitsi and the townfolk, just to see all his friends die at the hands of TCO, is heartbreakinng. Really, this episode revealed that no one is really in the right. TCO may have changed to be far kinder, but it doesnt change the fact that he killed Mitsi in cold blood, among many others. Victim has suffered a lot, but does it justify the brutality shown toward TSO, and 5 innocent stickfigures that just stumbled into this whole situation? Alan (the character) may be kinder toward the current bunch of sticks, but he is mostly the reason Victim is the way they are now.
Thank you for still making great stories without a single word uttered (mostly)
Очень трогательно получилось
Oh yeahhh, TSC and the stick gang were just trying to have fun and Alan mercilessly deleted them out of existence, which really puts those stick figure freedom and stick figure rights into perspective.
Who knows, there could be other animators who are far more feral and more animal than what Alan did
Да прям в точку от всего этого прям в душе очень больно как сейчас, поскорей бы продолжение а то меня боль в душе доканает мучает . что такое TSC?
What if the one who killed Mitsi was actually The Dark Lord? This really makes you think....
@@Никитавасильев-э9щ TSC is "The Second Coming (or in avm terms, Orange) he is often around his friends Green, Blue, Red, and Yellow. He was created by Alan (the character) after TCO and TDL.
Thought I'd mention this: at 19:51 on the bottom right corner you can see a newspaper saying "workers are quitting rocket co. jobs" and there's other papers covering the fall of rocket co. stock price. It's clear that after Mitsi died victim began allocating his company resources to developing weapons and technology that could fight/contain TCO. As a result, the company atmosphere probably became far less enjoyable, with the newspaper at 19:51 quoting a worker, "It's just not the same." That newspaper also has a picture of the worker, who is clearly the guy with the hat holding the blueprints at 11:22 on right. We can see that victim has scribbled "coward" under his picture, which is depressing because it shows that victim probably had a falling out with him, even though they probably worked together in the company for years and were close as we see the same guy at the company's 4 year celebration, which just goes to show how much Mitsi's death affected his life.
16:02 a small detail I love is purple holding a hand out for Dark Blue to help him out, but he gestures for him to come along. Shows their relationship already the first time we see them together chronologically
OH THATS WHO THOSE STICK FIGURES WHERE
@@Billy-q5swait can you guys fill me in?
16:02*
WHOA I DIDN’T NOTICE THEM!
Ikr! I noticed that too! I didn’t know the two shows would overlap
This explains so much about the first few episodes. We understand why victim hates the mouse cursor why the symbol is a rocket ship and why victim hates the dark Lord and the chosen one.
Victim does not know who the dark lord is
He doesn't know about the Dark Lord.
@JewTopGD это странно, ведь TDL принял большее участие в той резне.
but the question is why victim catched the second coming ??
@AMINEOMEGABANGA simply because I. The first episode, he was seen trying to defend the chosen one, so they caught him because he might be associated.
These madlads did it again.
They got me rooting for an antagonist's destruction only to have it do a complete 180 upon 180 as I realize the conflict is much deeper than I ever thought.
I love how alan remade the shakey animation with the first part part of the vid cuz that was how it look in the early vids. GREAT DETAIL👍😊
Edit the shakey animation you can see better on victim also all the wepons between 1:06 and 1:20 used on alan are the same ones that he used on TCO in ep 10 (or 9 I forgot)
I never imagined that pages were represented as balloons connected by tubes. That was possibly demonstrated in the TDL vs TCO fight, but it's really crazy, I love Alan's creativity
U prob fhuggleyy ir😂
bro this studio is NOT REAL. The fact that they can make SUCH genuine, beautiful, emotional, intricate pieces of art is such a spectacle, and to do it all on such a HIGH LEVEL, when full on movie studios with hundreds of millions of dollars of budget fail to come close to such a scale, this is just so amazing. The way these productions are able to play with your heart strings, make you GENUINELY CARE for these stick figures who can't talk but can communicate in such a way that words couldn't, AND BALANCE soo many different sides of the story, all with a plot that just makes sense in every way, my words just cannot describe my appreciation for this series. Please, keep up the AMAZING work Alan and team, your work is really inspiring.
I KNOW RIGHT this is my fav yt series it's insane what indie creators have been doing in the past few years
them not being able to talk, actually makes it more emotional. sometimes silence speaks more
Indie studios in a nutshell: Passion over profit. No wonder the story is such a masterpiece.
I don’t wanna say anything yet, but so far everyone that has made mistakes now looks up to The Second Coming for showing them how to be better. Alan’s abuse of Stickmen was met with TSC’s compassion, The Chosen One’s selflessness to defeat The Dark Lord was met with TSC’s determination to protect his friends and save others. I would expect that Victim’s hatred for Alan’s abuse and his loss of Mitsi to TCO will be met with TSC’s forgiveness and his ability to bring others back from destruction, like when TDL dematerialized Red, Green, Yellow, and Blue and TSC rematerialized them after beating TDL. He could theoretically also bring back Mitsi, and Victim could forgive Alan and TCO.
Also, anyone else noticed how the system that creates stickmen has the same green-yellow energy as TSC’s abilities? (That was the main inspiration for this theory).
tco didn't kill mitsi it was tdl
@@luisrosas2443 we dunno who it was. we can only say that she died from fireball explosion, which both of them can do
That's almost the same as what I was thinking. TSC could bring Mitsi back if his powers are just the same as what we saw
@@andreaxd1783 Hopefully the next episode will bring redemption and a change of heart for Victim after his abuse from Alan and losing Mitsi.
Oh I didn't even notice that! Oranges abilities ARE the same aesthetic as the sort of interface-layer energy! Excellent insight.
DANG DUDE THAT WAS CINEMATIC MASTERPIECE😮
*"Villains aren't born, They are made"*
This is a very true example from Victim, And seriously, no one can blame him at all.
Hope he finds peace real soon.
A villain is made when the person chooses to be one, someone born with nothing can choose to be good, something born with everything can choose to be evil
Kraven The Hunter
@@dorukpak8001 villain is a choice
@إبراهيمتركي-و6ث the word victim sounds better
It makes sense why his origin story is brutal it’s literally in his name
Honestly the second most interesting thing here is the world building:
So like, the internet in the Becker verse is linked to itself like normal
HOWEVER, when things made by artists - things made with bits of their heart and soul - are uploaded, they are given life in a world tethered to the platform their based on (this should mean that every platform is its own planet)
The most important thing to note is this world is tethered to the platform and from there to the person who made them
If the platform is disrupted they’ll get pulled out of the world and dropped into it or perhaps further into their own PC
This relationship might also explain why by Green got so addicted to YT besides the high of being a content creator - he uploaded himself, made himself a link to YT
And they can die though it seems that naming art the same as the OG can possibly revive them?
It’s possible Mitsi could be restored from the OG file on the computer she was made in or she could be redrawn by Alan? Unsure
I think platform planets is more like servers (data vaults) rather than planets while creatures lives in one big world.
Yeah but reviving may be hard with the time gap. Definitely possible assuming mitzis creator kept her original memory and cache from her old windows computer all the way into getting toward windows 10 which is what alan is on now. If victim were to die I don't think he can be brought back since Alan's original computer was destroyed
I was thinking that TSC would revive mitsi after getting "activated" we were shown that under certain circumstances TSC gets powers and can revive people so maybe he gets activated again by Victim or mitsi stays dead who knows? let's just wait for the next episode
Hold up , if they can be revived as long as there data is intact , doesn't that mean there are technically an infinite amount of the ganb, seeing how they are from there own website which was popular to play with , and when they revive do they keep there memories, but then what happens if two people open it at the same time , with the stickmen remember their past/present lives and what happens if they meet will they remember the interaction from both perspectives? Sorry I'm just rambling 😂
@theodencortes5627 I think that TSC's powers are probably linked to the creation of life or just life itself. Their powers look pretty much like the particles that represented Mitsi's data (and by extent every other animation) so it's possible that TSC's powers are linked to that. It would make sense, since he's (as far as we would know) the only animation that is capable of creating life from animations (since he naturally seemed to just have it since the start on AVA 4)
0:20, the first reason Victim tries to escape, even before he knows he’s being attacked, is because he sees the green pastures in Alan’s desktop and wants to be in them. Alan, through his torment, keeps him trapped instead in a blank white sheet with no life or character, and even when Victim escapes, the trauma he carries with him keeps him stuck in a grey fog. However, when Mitsi, characterised by the green energy of living creation, stands by him during his panic attack at 9:33, the greyness finally clears, and Victim finds that, at last, he’s arrived in the beautiful green pastures he yearned for when he was born.
Victim, though he founds a company that creates infrastructure, lives in a rural town with Mitsi, among the greenery. But after Mitsi dies, we never see him leave his office, and the shadow of Alan’s actions traps him once again in an empty, soulless, white box. Except this time, he has the opportunity to become the cruel dictator of the emptiness, and, in attempting to take revenge on Alan and TCO, he becomes the tormentor he hated when he was born, trapping Orange and TCO in perpetuity without destroying them in the same way Alan continually kept him around. He is away from the greenery of Mitsi and Orange’s creation, but isn’t quite in the darkness of TDL’s destruction. Instead, he’s in a blank greyness, and indeed, after escaping his destructive doom from Alan who coloured him dark, became grey himself. In other words, he still has the opportunity to choose the darkness of destruction, or stand back in the green pastures with Mitsi once more.
@@trogbison1625 You need a raise for this.
This, this is simply a beautiful perspective taken on something so hidden (to most)
His name is TSC, not Orange.
This is a very good comment but he is not a dictator, he literally didn't do anything to other ppl
@AmyWall-mt4og it can be Orange.
that hits hard
Wow that was absolutely amazing I can't wait for the next episodes! I wonder what will happen next I can't wait to see what you come up with..I loved every part of this episode so much. victim's backstory was definitely not what I was expecting but I loved it either way.
( Also did anyone else see purple and their family??? 16:02 )
Alan's behavior toward Victim makes sense for the time, there were a LOT of stickman abuse games back then just for the fun of it! Victim was probably not the only one going through those experiences
@@maroonlegend4374 Yeah but Alan was particularly sadistic, the worst part was when he deleted him slowly that was just horrifying to watch.
@@naviekd2409 Alan is the real villain of the series lol
Just for the vids man@@GLAJayden
hopefully Allen will change or do something to make amends for the victim. because I don't think the victim would be that easy to stop.
@ Alan is indirectly responsible for Mitsi’s death cuz of the creation of TCO
18:57 I have to shout out this particular shot, because the way TCO fire ends up looking like a fire in victims eyes is just, so so amazing
The fact that Victim doesn't even have eyes is more amazing.
To me the way the fire flows down looks like tears
yeah i realized that aswell
@keremyildiz1819 pretty sure all the blank heads have eyes since we've seen tsc and tco use lazer vision.
Does anyone else think that this episode is unintentionally a meta-analysis of how many of us enjoyed violent stick games when we were younger? Sniper Assassin, Escape Path, even Stick Figure Torture Chamber were all very popular games and a lot of us played them without a second thought
@@The0megaStorm nah fr. I was feeling the same thing. There were so many torture games for stick figures. I remembered the games where the models would just fall endlessly into the void. It really feels like a black mirror episode digging into what if they had a conscious and felt every pain.
Ayo yoir right. Kill crazy jay was one i remembered on stick page
But we know they are fake and (the most of) us are definitely torture a sapient being.
makes sense, considering all stickmin animations are all just fighting and killing each other nowadays too, entertained from their violence to our amusement
……Kick the Buddy
I Honestly Hope that Animator vs. Animation 12 is pretty good cause Mitsi Had so much more potential in this story. I hope somehow she didn't actually die and has been missing or something. Victim really didn't deserve this, it's just painful to see this happen to a stickman...
Your storytelling skills, creativity, artistry, and heart are truly something else. I feel so lucky to have grown up watching your work on RUclips, nonetheless. Thank you again, Alan. So excited to see yet another incredible story continue to unfold.
Ur rich 🥶 but yeah the creator design is I N S A N E. He was my childhood.
Bro deserves more likes
why did Alan not like
Man this whole story started nearly two decades ago. I remember watching 3 and 4 when I was in middle school. Caught up on 5 through 11 just now and my jaw dropped. The production quality, every episode, the creative and intelligent story-telling through visuals. And the narrative itself isn’t dumbed-down for us because we don’t have words. It conveys complex and extremely painful emotions and lessons across years of life experience. Not only that but Alan, you made a narrative that honestly depicts your actions and if anything makes them worse. Not only that but your characters you’ve created have skeletons too. You’ve grown, your characters have grown, but that doesn’t magically make everything go away. From the dark lord and the chosen one rampaging across the internet to the chosen one making peace with his violent upbringing and subsequent crimes, then finally having to absolve them through killing his closest friend and face his creator who forsaken and abused him. Absolutely insane stuff, and I’m so proud of how you’ve come to animate all of this. The jump in 2D to 3D was utterly insane, the effects made me giggle with childhood joy with how awesome they were and how they physically looked and sounded real in that suspension of disbelief sort of way. I’m so excited to see how you write this narrative going forward, it’s incredibly deep and cuts to the soul.
Да!! я тоже, я так люблю Алона и его анимации. Я их смотрела еще когда была очень маленькой анимация завораживает! Экшн 3Д, все на высшем уровне! Без слов, без мимики, это очень сложно! И мне искренни жаль всех измученных персонажей:_(, фиолетовый, его мама, король :_( . Очень жду продолжения. И как же я надеюсь что хотя бы серую воскресят :_(.
Love from India. Been seeing your videos over a decade and you are rocking it more and more. Every video you have been doing is phenomenal. I really wish you get the recognition you deserve around the world more. You are a true inspiration and please take care yourself! Btw Victim, TSC first video and Minecraft original one are my all time favourite media ever and I am really lucky to have found your channel all those years ago. Thank You!
i also from india
@abhinavpatel9408 Hey! Good to know!
WHOAAAAAA
How much is that in US dollars 💵
@@tongangamerboy Around 5?
Everyone always says it but it’s so true. Such amazing story telling without a word spoken. I went back and rewatched the series after watching this. Better story than any movies that’s come out in recent time
thats what happens when you make 2 20 minute episodes a year and spend 18 years writing it
This episode left me in tears 、 legit feel bad for Victim 、
after being tortured and traumatised by the cursor 、 he escapes and gets a peaceful life 、then some clone of him just goes on a rampage 、putting the blame on him 、 taking that peace away 、 depressing stuff 、 can't believe I'd tear up over a stickman animaton
TCO doesn’t put the blame on him, since others only know victim as a gray stick figure
@@cetusnug Down with The Chosen One! Down with noogai3 and Alan Becker! Down with the Animator! Down to the one that caused victim all this pain!
And the worst part is
You find out that the clone and the cursor are in the same side , i know that's not what happened but for victim it looks like the cursor send the clone to destroy the new grounds , imagine the hate in his heart
This answers so many questions.
A big one to me was how in the world was Victim still here because we had seen Alan delete him but turns out he made him again and again until one day where Victim broke free from Alan’s PC.
Then there was how Victim even knows about The Chosen One and what he had again him, like we as the viewer could assume from the previous episodes that it’s because he was another of Alan’s creations and he clearly has hate for Alan and could maybe use him to find Alan, but what we actually see is that because TCO killed someone close to him and he found out about who did it thanks to Agent Smith.
For Agent Smith at first he just felt like a mercenary, but turns out he’s not it’s clear he felt bad for Victim not being able to save his loved one so he continues to work with him, so not a mercenary but a soldier or even a spec op working under Victim.
As for the other 3 their origins are still unknown but I think it’s safe to assume they are also survivors after the Newgrounds attack given how unique they are and Newgrounds having plenty of unique animations from different people and with their special skill sets were put in the same team with Agent Smith.
A loyal friend, more like, because I'm sure that he cared deeply for Mitsi too, like a good friend of 4 years, and he too seemed vengeful I think
For Agent Smith it could alsoo be revenge for TCO destroying His origin world
I think one of the agents is actually a cave painting stickman. The bow, arrow and primal hulking out. Also the fact it is litterally based on cavemen artstyle. Seems like stickman world is more than just internett creatures.
Purple (and also their parents, Pink and Indigo) being a survivor too is actually very interesting.
With rather similar pasts, there's a lot of possibilities for what could happen for when or if Victim and Purple will meet
I wonder if, when Alan first drew a little black stick figure for an animation he was working on, if he ever thought that 18 years later, this is where he'd be.
Yea
I’m sure he never thought of it
@TheSmallestLittleBilly which is what makes it so awasome. Using unrelated things and linking them together is just, so awasome of them? I dont words to describe my amazement
Probably not as he wanted to be an animator for Pixar originally
Well one thing is 100% certain, he intended the victim to be the most miserable thing he created
This is insane!! I never thought Alan would've spent almost a year torturing the victim after that first animation, really puts a new meaning to his name "victim." And also showing us what was of The Chosen One and The Dark Lord and how they went on to cause destruction... Honestly after watching all those animations I never pondered on what happened after, I thought it was all really linear but now we get to see what really has been happening... The Victim's repeating story of pain, The Dark Lord's thirst for chaos, even Alan's own evolution from torturing and using the stickfigures as toys to eventually befriending the fighting stickmen and the Second Coming and living alongside them. What an absolute masterpiece this series is, I can't evem fathom what Alan has in store for the next episodes, much less for the ending... HAVE MY LIKE
Alan wasn't torturing him. It was a different person.
Wait no never-ending I'm stupid
@@Neutral_Goose
Alan probably thought they were different stickmen
@@Neutral_Gooseno, it was Alan who tortured victim, it wouldn’t make sense if it wasn’t alan.
I noticed a few things.
1- Alan didn't change, but he respectfully fights his figures nowadays,instead of forcing them.
2- Newgrounds upload and deletion power is the same as The Second Coming.
3-TSC has a fear of boxes the same way Victim does
4-The pose victim does while he waits alan to go out of the computer,is the same TSC did when he was gonna avenge his friends, even though he reflects TCO's identity
5- The OG fire mask from the rocket's propulsion, love how he added this detail
Jesus is our Lord and Savior, repent and turn to Him and forgive people no matter what they did
Seriously @sirduckinten2619 ! @alanbecker does NOT commit these types of sins.
Stop it!
-The animator Rick-Yei Becker
@@sirduckinten2619Amen
Don’t forget purple and his parents
@@sirduckinten2619 that has zero relevance
I really like, how this isn't just some huge misunderstanding or something along the lines. No, Alan tortured Victim, The Chosen One killed the one person that ever really meant something to him. Going through all of this without even thinking of giving up proves one thing, Victim is strong, very strong at least mentaly.
TDL could kill Mitsi. TCO was practically a changed man at this moment.
@HellHeaterit was shown that TCO killed her since he hovered over her. And it was proven that it was TCO bc at that moment he was working with TDL so it had to be him
@@globglobglab TCO wasn't fully against the 'internet attacks' idea at the time. Plus it would be useless for Victim to be mad at TDL when he's already died.
Ok
Strong mentally? Instantly started torturing TCO once he caught him and you mean to tell me a person that did all of what Victim did is "mentally strong"?
His determination is strong and he's intelligent, but he's a very emotionally weak person (I guess understandably)
This still doesn't justify him doing the things he was doing
so the idea is that every time a stickman character is made and uploaded to the internet, they are transported to a plane of existence where they can just live out their days like normal people. But if they are removed from whatever website they were on (in this case, I believe it's mostly newgrounds) then they cease to exist, but if they somehow escape their reality before ceasing to exist, then they become "rogue" stickmen and just exist on the internet without constraint.
So this would also include all the stickmen who were made just to be unalived by the "main character" of the animation of said stickman, which would explain why the world they are on is so abundant.
It's actually a really thought out idea.
Outstanding story. Whoever wrote this is a genius.
Have you seen the projectile was thrown by the dark lord not the chosen one when mitsi got fried
im confused on why this still has no replies (hi)
@@abdulracmanandamama5676 how do you know
slap battles animator reacts to animation vs animator 11
its the sb guy
6:52 so victim was the one who opened up the animation world to all stick figures directly from PCs, so now you can just go straight to the animation world rather than through a rocket.
Yeah, I think the city name is Stick-polis, Newgrounds Website it’s like a Metropolitan City but too hot
I think what's going on is that victim was the reason people's stick figure drawings started coming to life out of nowhere, like what happened in AVA 4 where Alan was simply animating TSC then he suddenly just sprung to life
@@mcstudioproductions3512 I think you might be on to something.
HOW does Alan keep making masterpieces??? This is genuinely incredible. This explains why Victim tortured The Chosen One, where Purple comes from, how Victim is still alive… and it gives us a worse, more tragic, and more painful backstory than even King Orange.
I’m so glad to be once again reminded of why Animator vs Animation is one of my favorite series’s of all time.
Let’s not compare lol the other guy lost his son. Different ways to see things
this is a masterclass in writing, the story telling here competes with multi million dollar movies. so impressive, well done alan and his team
I don't think I have the words to do this piece justice. Linking Purple to the AvA story, Agent being there before the events of previous episodes, and the fact that Alan pretty much made himself the villain in all of this. The level of creativity this must take is far beyond incredible.
When was purple linked to this ?
@@syontuteja7689 purple and his family were escaping from newgrounds when it was attacked, so it's probably how his mom died. Look at 16:08
There's also reference to TCO's wanted poster in the "Cherry Blossoms" short. As for Purple's mother. I was thinking she died of old age, but there's a lot of other possibilities.
I agree 100%. It's beyond heart-wrenching, and the storytelling is nigh god-level.
@rohangardinerno, it wasn't
Это было просто невероятно…
То как Алан играет с чувствами зрителя к героям- это работа мастера
Оу... я... не знал... его судьбы. Алан смог показать почему Виктим... стал... таким. Теперь... всё стало ясно. Это месть... которая... копилась в нём на протяжении стольких лет. Теперь мы знаем почему он всё это затеял...
To think that Victim could see beyond the screen and watch Alan do all these sadistic acts to him really does put in a big picture for us with what he thought Alan was as a person.
A lot of kids love playing those types of “torture the buddy” types of games too but grow up to be normal people, so it’s still pretty realistic as well. Props to Alan and his team for the writing
@@トーキ-g8v Can confirm my friends and I loved to play that “mutilate a doll” game back in sixth grade much to our teacher’s chagrin.
Whatever happened to those Minecraft villagers in my creative worlds, and whatever went down when I downloaded those “Beat the Boss” apps, I never realized the trauma they’d go through behind the scenes… ;~~;
but I’d do it again
Second Coming was also able to tell when Alan was gone and when he came back in his first appearance.
Among all the details, a piece I love about this are the details on how all these stick figures (including the "background characters") are born. We see when Victim is watching Mitsi is being exported to Newgrounds, that a (... familiar...) lime-green glowing energy surrounds her file, pushing Victim's rocket back into the "series of tubes" that make up the Internet. Once a character's animation is uploaded, forming the thumbnails we see on the Newground's pages/towers, that green energy remains, coursing into the "Internet World", where they they exist in a larger setting, typically manifesting around characters of a similar visual style. (Victim's introduction to that world was seemingly so out of the ordinary (quite literally desaturating him in the process), it somehow "bridged the gap" and allowed "Internet World" to have direct connections to every PC in existence, where before it was seemingly disconnected from any online space directly. Perhaps The Dark Lord's whole portal network machine continued to close that gap...)
Seeing all those old internet animations fleeing Newgrounds... moving with their own unique style and framerates... This whole series, it feels like it's also performing a fantastic tribute to the "magic" of making things. That these little scribbles we create contain something special we put in them, that brings them to life. The only way to truly destroy something like that is to erase it completely - hence why when Newgrounds gets attacked, the destroyed animation exports cause their characters to vanish in a flash of that same lime-green "creative magic". Something about us, the humans, the animators - it quite literally gives them life. (And it's something these characters don't quite all understand - the villagers Mitsi and Victim live with are shown questioning what lies beyond the sky.) It makes me wonder if The Dark Lord had succeeded in completely destroying the internet, he would have inadvertently evaporated everyone in Internet World. Maybe that's something these characters will come to accept and understand - there's a mutual, mystical bond between creator and creation.
... This then makes me wonder about the Mercenaries - maybe this "magic" goes back further than we know, or even extends to "non-internet" spaces. Like Primal - maybe they are an actual, legitimate neolithic cave painting, given that magic thousands of years ago by some ancient, passionate artist - Primal being an actual "ancestor' to the entire concept of Stick Figures as a whole.
This series has so much potential, that it explores so, so incredibly well. Maybe I'm just reading too much into this, or whatever - but as someone who very much believes in the idea that creative works contain a tiny piece of our heart and soul, this concept really speaks deeply to me (even if my current projects don't move all that much). Thank you and your team so much, Alan, for continuing to make so many incredible, heartfelt things. It really does feel like this saga is a really profound story about Animators and Animations indeed. 💙
Since it's Newgrounds, I can headcanon Boyfriend and Girlfriend (Friday Night Funkin') as infants being carried to safety by their respective parents
2000s online creators always did have some kind of edge to them. Being a teenager at the time was always marketed to or portrayed as dark, "weird" and "cool." It's really nice to see Alan acknowledge that about that and of himself at the time.
Fell bad for victim
-his love died
-got tormented
-was traumatised
-yet his colour changed
Etc
And now he wants revenge for the people who put him in pain and he’ll do anything for justice to avenge his love. This story went to A GODDAMN LORE with full of cool animations Alan let’s hope that the dad (orange) and purple will return to this story-line also, victim reminds me of spot the villain in spiderman across the spider-verse spot was hit by a bagel by miles and some sort of thingy affected him and after he’s OP he said, “I’ll take everything from you, like you took everything from me” and victim is like that his personality
purple is in the episode
you forgot the part when he turned grey
Not to mention how Alan (the character) basically committed a individual genocide with Victim (by that I mean a genocide but it's just Victim getting murdered over and over again)
If I did the math correctly, Victim had been tortured for 9 months and 12 days straight by Alan, before finally escaping in March 15th, 2007.
When meeting Mitsi for the first time, he’s so afraid and anxious he’s literally shaking. He doesn’t know what real kindness and empathy is like, as he’s so used to the abuse and terror he felt with Alan. It’s incredible how Alan is able to build on the story between characters, showing their own side of things and how it’s gonna affect the future of the AVA story altogether.
same day ava 2 was released
@@loganblakely3448 you’re so right! that also means Alan immediately went to torturing another stick figure…
Sorry to say, but your math is a little off, as proven in the episode: it's not that victim was tortured for 9 months and 12 days straight, but for a 9 month and 12 day period of time, everytime Alan named the stick figure victim he wasn't creating a new consciousness, but rather bringing back to life the original victim, this is why in certain moments you see victim reacting to a previous event upon being named, and whilst yes, the torture Alan put victim through during those 9 months and 12 days was horrible, considering that what I can see is victim, upon regaining awareness, starts freaking out, Alan would likely then think that he's got another stick figure acting up, and is launching a first attack, only to completely escalate the problem to the levels that we see where-in Alan is preemptively attacking victim, because he believes that every new stick figure he makes is going to cause him problems, not realising that it's the same, original stick figure from the very beginning. It's only when victim completely destroys the program Alan was using does he decide to name the stick figure something else. Now, does that make it right, or justified, nope, but it could paint another picture with the tools that we've been given.
@@AJTaiyou How does that make his math wrong tho
@@loganblakely3448 because whilst the time, from Alan's perspective, was 9 months and 12 days, victim wasn't being tortured every second during that period. Whilst this video doesn't give full context to the amount of time that Alan did torture victim (whether one session was only a few minutes, or others hours), if we calculate the amount of time victim is active in the original video before Alan closes the program (which is roughly 1 minute and 48 seconds), then, as a conservative estimate, applied that number to every day between June 3, 2006 and March 15, 2007, we get 8 hours & 33 minutes that we can estimate victim's torture session, from his perspective, to have lasted
EDIT: Conservative Estimate in this regards being a single 1 minute 48 second torture second per day
EDIT 2: My math was slightly off, fixed it
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