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  • @Da1337Man
    @Da1337Man 7 лет назад +841

    as soon as i saw this video i knew who won.
    to put it simply: General Grievous was made into the second greatest jedi killer of all time. Proxy was a training droid.

    • @marlom7882
      @marlom7882 7 лет назад +7

      Da1337Man true and nice profile pic

    • @kommi7658
      @kommi7658 7 лет назад +3

      Da1337Man
      Second Greatest?

    • @darthniennunb234
      @darthniennunb234 7 лет назад +1

      Da1337Man Who furst

    • @Simon-bv3zo
      @Simon-bv3zo 7 лет назад +5

      Da1337Man if it was revenge of the sith proxy would win but in legends yeah grievous would win but it would be really funny proxy beat him

    • @georgie9303
      @georgie9303 7 лет назад +19

      Nien nunb Darth Vader

  • @Alfreduss
    @Alfreduss 7 лет назад +1047

    I would love a movie about Grievous, he was so awesome (as long as they don't put him like coward...

    • @psychopathlana7376
      @psychopathlana7376 7 лет назад +48

      Alfreduss trueeeee i always loved him as a kid😂 a badass jedi killer that owns evryone amazing😍

    • @onvawynog4696
      @onvawynog4696 7 лет назад +49

      he wasnt a coward he was taught by Dooku to escape when the odds arnt in his favor

    • @psychopathlana7376
      @psychopathlana7376 7 лет назад +1

      Onv Awy Nog 😂

    • @jamesjuld
      @jamesjuld 7 лет назад +6

      Onv Awy Nog well it's some kind of coward, i mean he ran away whenever he was anywhere close to losing which is cowardice.

    • @melle2939
      @melle2939 6 лет назад +18

      Alfreduss i know i'm rather late, but i've always liked to think his "cowardice" came from the contract he agreed on, since if he died it'll likely be terminated, which would mean his people would suffer the consequences.
      So in my headcannon he fled to live another day to keep the contract up and help his people...but that's just my headcannon. ^^

  • @kevintucker8839
    @kevintucker8839 8 лет назад +681

    "I am not a droid" -General Grievous

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore 4 года назад +177

    Proxy turns into kenobi: hello there
    Grievous: *Vietnam flashbacks

    • @crabmaster3338
      @crabmaster3338 4 года назад +1

      THERE IN THE TREES!!!

    • @jurassicpark3spinosaurus645
      @jurassicpark3spinosaurus645 4 года назад +1

      KENOBI !

    • @flamingrubys11
      @flamingrubys11 4 года назад +1

      The funny thing is the reason why they sent kenobi is because he counters greivous style to put it simply unrelenting force meets unmovable object

    • @DTheCritical
      @DTheCritical 3 года назад +1

      @@flamingrubys11 If Proxy stayed Kenobi the whole fight Grevious would be screwed

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Год назад +2

      @@DTheCritical Without the force, the style is not at its peak.

  • @jctcubetheboss1814
    @jctcubetheboss1814 8 лет назад +844

    General Grievous is NOT a droid, he is a Kaleesh cyborg.

    • @Who-vm7rq
      @Who-vm7rq 8 лет назад +14

      Thankkkkkkkkk yyoouuuuuu

    • @shillaryclinty8661
      @shillaryclinty8661 8 лет назад +16

      You Kylo, are an insult to the Sith empire

    • @Who-vm7rq
      @Who-vm7rq 8 лет назад +2

      El Jefe the sith empire died out millennia ago, I fight for the FIRST ORDER.....and if you think me an insult then please come at me bitch

    • @kaldordraigo4020
      @kaldordraigo4020 7 лет назад +20

      Kylo Ren anyone before your time could slay you even jar jar could beat you

    • @Mothbean
      @Mothbean 6 лет назад +5

      *fist slam*
      THANK YOU!!

  • @robbydudley1124
    @robbydudley1124 8 лет назад +99

    "I am Grievous, warlord of the Kaleesh and Supreme Commander of the armies of the Confederacy. And I am NOT a droid!" -Grievous

  • @GODZILLADRAGON111
    @GODZILLADRAGON111 7 лет назад +296

    This isn't a battle. It's an execution.

  • @Dr_Evil_Mc-Bad
    @Dr_Evil_Mc-Bad 7 лет назад +408

    in a rock paper scissors scenario;
    Vader would be the rock, (hard and strong)
    Yoda would be the paper (elegant and flexible)
    Dooku would be the scissors (fast and sharp)
    and grievous would be the gun.

    • @fili0938
      @fili0938 7 лет назад +13

      Legatus Sedricillius Sidious would be God.

    • @kommi7658
      @kommi7658 7 лет назад +17

      Filip Holm
      All Sidious has against Grievous is force lightning, but Grievous has 4 blades. 1 to block the lighting, the other 3 to decemate Sidious.

    • @fili0938
      @fili0938 7 лет назад +17

      Grammar Fuhrer Grievous wouldn't have the power to hold back Sidious lightning, besides Dooku can beat Grievous in lightsaber combat and Sidious absolutely destroys Dooku.

    • @darthdrake3095
      @darthdrake3095 5 лет назад +6

      The High Ground would be the lightsaber

    • @matrimalviarin5043
      @matrimalviarin5043 5 лет назад +6

      Kenobi is the ballistic shield lmao

  • @Seraphim227
    @Seraphim227 7 лет назад +84

    For anyone who says Proxy could win through the Obi Wan module, Obi Wan was literally channeling and giving himself to the Force to beat Grievous and had to switch to a blaster. While Proxy can make calculations and emulate Force Push, I don't think that calculations are as effective as literally seeing the future through the Force.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  7 лет назад +26

      Also, whenever PROXY turned to Obi-Wan module he was nearly one-shotted by Galen and then later easily defeated by Darth Vader.

    • @Seraphim227
      @Seraphim227 7 лет назад +21

      Yup. Grievous can blend styles and adapt accordingly.
      Proxy's "adaptations" are switching to preset styles, and can't blend them.

    • @orindark
      @orindark 4 года назад +1

      @@AntoineBandele Obi-wan's style is pretty much useless without the force, Form 3 relies completely on the force to be effective this was a fight i dont think should have even been questioned because yes while Proxy could emulate every fighting style he has and switch between them Grevious fought actual jedi and killed them, he contended with every style and was taught them all by dooku one of the greatest duelist's of his time the only person probably on par with Dooku's dueling would be Mace windu because his style would use Dooku's darkside against him, even Yoda struggled to hold his own against his apprentice.

    • @yaboinate_2097
      @yaboinate_2097 4 года назад

      @@AntoineBandele can u blame proxy tho, if Galen was real he would be the most op character in all of star wars

  • @alpha77productions22
    @alpha77productions22 8 лет назад +88

    Grievous isn't a droid. His brain is working. The droid Parts only change his physcal abilities.
    Correct me if i am wrong!

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +12

      "General Grievous stood at a monstrous seven feet tall. Originally a Khaleesh warrior with a grudge against the Jedi, the general was transformed into a cyborg."

    • @alpha77productions22
      @alpha77productions22 8 лет назад +18

      Antoine Bandele Yes but a cyborg isn't a droid. A cyborg is a combination of a living being and a robotic body or in this case even brain modification. I mean he is not completly programmed.

    • @tammynichols8500
      @tammynichols8500 4 года назад +1

      You seem right though. I would recommend you not to correct what you said

  • @uzumaki403
    @uzumaki403 8 лет назад +121

    Yeah you shouldn't call Grevious a Droid he's a Cyborg

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +13

      I call him a cyborg in the video. See if you can find it ;-) (I say it once).

    • @kirayoshikage2657
      @kirayoshikage2657 7 лет назад +3

      Antoine Bandele the general was transformed in a cyborg 4:54

    • @DarthVader-6637
      @DarthVader-6637 2 года назад

      When I saw this I said "Battle of the droids"

  • @TheColonelAngel
    @TheColonelAngel 8 лет назад +367

    ALSO HOW ABOUT CLONE TROOPERS VS STORM TROOPERS!

    • @unrulytdott2824
      @unrulytdott2824 8 лет назад +77

      clones would win there where made to figth storm troopers where just regular people but I would still love to see it

    • @invisiblewolf9233
      @invisiblewolf9233 8 лет назад +18

      no at first storm troopers were clones then numbers started to decline and the empire started recruiting normal people and other species and they even started making different clones not the original ones but yes the clones would win

    • @navacamal36
      @navacamal36 8 лет назад +1

      +Tristan St.john urm what? clone troopers came before storm troopers soooooooooooo confused much i am (i am talking like yoda now)

    • @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith
      @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith 8 лет назад

      I agree. I would like to see how their equipment and training compare.

    • @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith
      @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith 8 лет назад +2

      mikkel larsen Very true, veteran clone troopers would be better. There were a myriad of battles and that makes for a lot of experience.

  • @CustomChallenge
    @CustomChallenge 8 лет назад +69

    While I will say you don't give PROXY enough credit, I will agree that in a duel the General would rip PROXY limb from metal limb.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +7

      I gave PROXY the credit he presented for himself. He was out-dueled by Galen and Vader. He was outright stomped by Vader.

    • @CustomChallenge
      @CustomChallenge 8 лет назад +11

      Didn't mean any offense.I just meant that PROXY would do pretty well against almost ANYONE ELSE.(Considering Vader and Galen are credited as some of the most adept duelist in the galaxy)Though Grievous would likely be insulted by PROXYs very existence, due to their similarities, and let loose with everything to destroy him.

    • @matthewcass3773
      @matthewcass3773 7 лет назад +2

      I say he's giving proxy too MUCH credit

  • @spacewolfblackmane19
    @spacewolfblackmane19 8 лет назад +215

    .for as much as I love the 2007 the clone wars TV show they really waisted greveus turning him in to more of a coward

    • @darraghtate440
      @darraghtate440 8 лет назад +7

      +Jaden Harrod He was a coward in the film too.

    • @spacewolfblackmane19
      @spacewolfblackmane19 8 лет назад +5

      ya but the movies had nothing right with them only the jedi fight senes have any real watch ability and they gave him a pretty awesome chase. but they never last so they don't count in my book to short and in a shit movie as well.

    • @thefub4226
      @thefub4226 8 лет назад +9

      What!?!? The movies are as canon as it gets, you can't disregard something in the movie. They were what started everything

    • @DecryptGamer
      @DecryptGamer 8 лет назад +5

      +The Fub No, The Original Trilogy started Star Wars. 4 > 5 > 6 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 7 > Rogue One> 8> Han Solo> 9

    • @spacewolfblackmane19
      @spacewolfblackmane19 8 лет назад

      oh shit i see it now

  • @keenandunleavy
    @keenandunleavy 8 лет назад +71

    Anyone remember that time that Grievous was taken down by Gungans in the Clone Wars Tv show? Its sad to see that after he was so cool in the original animated series killing 2 jedi a padawan and knocking two others in critical condition in one fight.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +11

      ...

    • @matthewcass3773
      @matthewcass3773 7 лет назад +15

      to be fair it WAS an entire army

    • @exonymousprime
      @exonymousprime 6 лет назад +5

      And they used a surprise attack and got very lucky.

    • @ryleedovak840
      @ryleedovak840 6 лет назад +3

      Yeaaaaaa they deactivated all his droids xd

    • @K40005
      @K40005 6 лет назад +3

      Grievious Vs jar jar Bink's times one million

  • @crazyaxebeaver
    @crazyaxebeaver 7 лет назад +13

    Y'know, condsidering that Grevious was a crack shot with a slugthrower I'm surprised he never used one. Since Jedi can't deflect it as easily, do not wear armor, not to mention a slug would not be able to pierce his. It seems perfect for his Jedi Hunting role over a blaster.

  • @AntoineBandele
    @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +258

    UPDATE: Thanks to a suggestion from Trevor Philips, Vader vs Grievous will be featured next season ... in a *new version of the VS* I have planned next season.

    • @nahuelsanchez2196
      @nahuelsanchez2196 8 лет назад +6

      +Antoine Bandele HOLY SHIT,THE BATTLE OF THE CYBORGS¡¡¡¡¡

    • @blackknightzylo3954
      @blackknightzylo3954 8 лет назад

      +nahuel sanchez proxy isn't a cyborg

    • @Barfitlegriff
      @Barfitlegriff 8 лет назад +4

      +BlackKnight Zylo He was talking about Darth Vader and Grevious

    • @haydoy2218
      @haydoy2218 8 лет назад

      +Class of 7HB
      His Armor was not the one deflecting saber blows but his cape was able to deflect relatively weak blows

    • @epiclolman57
      @epiclolman57 8 лет назад +1

      +Class of 7HB ya but his speed suffered greatly from his cybernetic parts like legs and arms grievous would have an advantage and his strength would cut right through that armor, remember how his hands were cut off

  • @TheLittleJotunn
    @TheLittleJotunn 8 лет назад +28

    I like this a lot. But you forget to mention one thing.
    Grievous is one of the best sharp shooters in the galaxy.
    He was so good with the rifle that his people raised him to demigod status...
    or perhaps I just missed that? o.o
    Grievous also often keeps a blaster close at hand which he often uses as a surprise attack.

  • @tophatgrunt8147
    @tophatgrunt8147 4 года назад +5

    15:52
    antoine: there was one thing that proxy lacked, that obi wan had-
    me: THE HIGH GROUND

  • @kaimagnus5760
    @kaimagnus5760 7 лет назад +292

    Verdict, Proxy gets owned.

    • @advirus6879
      @advirus6879 7 лет назад +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking!

    • @jjclark9627
      @jjclark9627 7 лет назад +3

      AdVirus But proxy could just mimic general grevious and people who could beat grevious

    • @Jay-629
      @Jay-629 7 лет назад +2

      JJ Beast but PROXY was a bad copy of them.

    • @jjclark9627
      @jjclark9627 7 лет назад +5

      James DeLano he was only a bad copy so he could build up starkiller's abilities and if he went full on starkiller would be defeated easily so he would of acted like a weaker version of the person he was mimicking

    • @kaimagnus5760
      @kaimagnus5760 7 лет назад +6

      JJ Beast Training Star Killer was an after thought. His prime directive was to KILL star killer. So Proxy was always going full power.

  • @lordpleasetouchme8046
    @lordpleasetouchme8046 8 лет назад +134

    Darth Maul vs General Grievous sounds like a far better battle to me

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +1

      +Walter West That has been done by Darth Judicar, although many disagree with the verdict.

    • @lordpleasetouchme8046
      @lordpleasetouchme8046 8 лет назад

      TheNuisanceBird oh

    • @tomg582
      @tomg582 8 лет назад +1

      It was also seen in Son of Dathomior. Maul won.

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +23

      Tom Grocutt It wasn't technically seen. lol But yes, they did fight twice. I wouldn't say Maul won. He Force pushed Grievous out of the area and through a wall. Grievous recovered from it while Maul ran to help Mother Talzin. I'd still like to see a proper fight between them though.

    • @ColArana
      @ColArana 8 лет назад +21

      +Tom Grocutt I wouldn't really call that a win on Maul's part though. Grievous was completely fine after that Force Blast. Maul just couldn't afford to keep fighting Grievous, but it's in no way a victory. It's not Maul defeated Grievous, since Grievous was fine. It wasn't a strategic victory either, since Grievous was able to return to the fray, and, without Maul to hold him back, kill Talzin. It was at best a brief upper hand.
      It's no more a legit victory for Maul than their first bout was a legit victory for Grievous, just because Maul got kicked down and then ran away. Would also add that Grievous never actually used his third or fourth sabers in the fight.

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 8 лет назад +203

    General Grievous is the anti Jar Jar Binks. As in he is the best that the prequel trilogy gave us.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +47

      In concept he was cool, but in the movies and TCW he was rather lame.

    • @HORRIOR1
      @HORRIOR1 8 лет назад +9

      Antoine Bandele Yeah but that is thanks to Lucas and Cartoon Network. Other forms of media he was a stone cold badass killer.

    • @thaddeusmccaustland8023
      @thaddeusmccaustland8023 8 лет назад +16

      +HORRIOR 2003 CLONE WARS SERIES GRIEVOUS!

    • @IroncladQuzar
      @IroncladQuzar 8 лет назад +1

      +TJ McCaustland Best Grievous ever!

    • @rza884
      @rza884 8 лет назад +2

      +Antoine Bandele agreed first time I saw him in the clone wars, I was jaw dropped seeing jedi's losing their shit

  • @CrowJarone
    @CrowJarone 8 лет назад +18

    general grievous is one of the greatest characters in the prequel trilogy

  • @steelpanther88
    @steelpanther88 8 лет назад +7

    Grievous's weakness with lightsaber was long endurance duels and defensive styles, I think. Obi wan's defense style picked Grievous apart "bit-by-bit". Grievous lost that duel to Obi wan because he was basically disarmed by kenobi. He only succeeded by escaping though... Grievous had the advantage of being very unpredictable however due to multiple arms and cybernetics.

  • @InfusionTheory
    @InfusionTheory 8 лет назад +55

    I would love to see the Bounty Hunter showdown, Durge vs Boba Fett (Legends canon)

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +6

      +Tyler Jeffers There is nothing Boba could do against Durge. It took a sun to kill the monster. Boba does not have enough fire power to bring Durge down.

    • @InfusionTheory
      @InfusionTheory 8 лет назад

      Well if anything else I would like to see Durge in a battle. I personally don't know, it has been said that Boba Fett was the Best Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy, same said of Durge but I would still like to see him in a match against someone worthy

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +1

      Tyler Jeffers Someone has suggested Darth Vader Vs Durge. I think it'd be really interesting.

    • @InfusionTheory
      @InfusionTheory 8 лет назад

      hmm maybe..

    • @williamhenning4700
      @williamhenning4700 8 лет назад +1

      +Tyler Jeffers Darth Vader would defeat Durge.
      Boba vs Durge would be incredible. Boba stole from Durge as a child. :P

  • @matthewwhite4564
    @matthewwhite4564 8 лет назад +63

    As far as being underpowered, yes Antoine you are right. TCW's version of Grievous was almost to embarrassing to watch.
    On a side note, Cyborgs are different than Droid. Grievous is much like. Vader, more machine than man, but has biological components

    • @matthewwhite4564
      @matthewwhite4564 8 лет назад +7

      I would also argue that Grievous's prime is not ROTS. In the film, when going up against Kenobi he was swiftly outmatched in terms of lightsaber combat, but during his first appearance he was an unstoppable killing machine

    • @matthewwhite4564
      @matthewwhite4564 8 лет назад +1

      I know he was injured days before RotS thats why im saying that's not when his prime is

    • @matthewwhite4564
      @matthewwhite4564 8 лет назад +1

      Grievous was intended to be Dooku's errand boy. The ultimate Jedi killer, and in 1 novel he even manages to duel Mace Windu to a stalemate. but yeah, every other appearance except for 2003 CW he's pathetic

    • @christopherjohn_emmert5143
      @christopherjohn_emmert5143 7 лет назад +1

      Matthew White Z

    • @stefancristi2493
      @stefancristi2493 6 лет назад +1

      Well, Grievous still had his brain and that's what made him something else than a droid or an android.

  • @generalgrievous4341
    @generalgrievous4341 6 лет назад +10

    **GASP** Did *you* just call *Grievous* a *droid!?*

  • @justinanderson2460
    @justinanderson2460 4 года назад +2

    I agree 100%
    It gets more slanted the more you look at it..... NAILED IT!! 🤘

  • @loganadams5569
    @loganadams5569 4 года назад +10

    Why is this recommended to me 4 years later?

  • @MinniMaster
    @MinniMaster 8 лет назад +6

    This was so sad. Proxy was my favorite droid. It's like he actually has a heart. Well, a as close to a heart as a droid could get.

  • @weapieraxe1650
    @weapieraxe1650 4 года назад +2

    "Everyone is freaking out that you called me a droid, you gave me a win, I say that I don't mind it."

  • @lucaso62828
    @lucaso62828 8 лет назад +15

    Actually he swore vengeance against the jedi because his planet was in a war with the opposite army some sort of insect army that started the war. Then the insects convinced the Republic to help then saying Grevious's species started it. However Greivius didn't know this and the Republic helped the insect army win and he got really mad and what u said

    • @adixiegentleman9502
      @adixiegentleman9502 8 лет назад

      Thank you Boba Fett I was hoping some one would point that out before I had to

  • @Extremeredfox
    @Extremeredfox 8 лет назад +12

    It is extremely sad that Genndy Tartakovksy's rendition of General Grievous didn't stick with Lucas and carry on in the film and the clone wars series. Perhaps at the time the CGI would have been too expensive to carry on this depiction. Regardless the VERY tame version that was molded after Tartakovsky's depiction made one wonder how he was even a legitimate physical threat to Jedi. When you saw Genndy's version you could see how this cyborg was legit threat to Jedi. You saw the unorthodox fighting, you saw his unrivaled speed, you saw his ability to strike fear by his lurking, horror movie-esque tactics.
    Had Lucas kept this rendition of Grievous Eppisode 3 would've been a better film.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +6

      It would have also made Kenobi's victory over him more fulfilling.

    • @kwhalord3311
      @kwhalord3311 3 года назад

      Counterpoint: Legends grievous would have to have been extremely visceral, and the ultimate goal of Star Wars was to keep it under the pg rating. Also blood effects were extremely hard to do at the time without using practical effects, which were largely avoided throughout the prequels

  • @karacook845
    @karacook845 8 лет назад +5

    General Grievous vs Pong Krell

  • @DJOpaixMusic
    @DJOpaixMusic 8 лет назад +9

    The Verdict: They both adapt to their opponent's style, and the general has intuition of a sentient being on top of his programming. Proxy just can't keep up to him in combat.

  • @RedMegalon
    @RedMegalon 8 лет назад +4

    This is why Grevious is my favorite Star Wars character.

  • @xbererror5088
    @xbererror5088 8 лет назад +6

    this spunds like Im watching a history video...

  • @mat2
    @mat2 8 лет назад +49

    What if PROXY turns/mimics to General Grievous?

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +33

      That would be outside of PROXY's programming and physical capabilities. He only turned into humanoids around his height. That's why you don't see Paratus, Yoda, or Grievous.

    • @thomaselvidge
      @thomaselvidge 8 лет назад +20

      +CatPlayzGames Proxxy never becomes as good as the real thing so it would be like Grevous vs a slighly worse Grevous. xD

    • @Metalframey
      @Metalframey 8 лет назад +1

      +Antoine Bandele what if we had a supercharged proxy vs a force wielding grevious now that would be interesting as proxy in theory could mimic anything and grevious could master range and melee combat

    • @user-jz8vi2hk1w
      @user-jz8vi2hk1w 8 лет назад +2

      +Metalhead Swordsman According to some people, Taskmaster can.

    • @toastyastronaut9763
      @toastyastronaut9763 7 лет назад +1

      Metalframey general grievous is trained in every form of light saber combat. If he's fast enough to negate the force for Jedi, and is good enough with light sabers to fight multiple Jedi at once,
      PROXY will be instantly dead. Just complete obliteration.

  • @ShyRaven2161
    @ShyRaven2161 8 лет назад +4

    Love how u had thrawn as symbol for tactical ability

  • @KTA1sVidsandFacts
    @KTA1sVidsandFacts 8 лет назад +257

    Let's all be honest here the only reason Obi-Wan won in episode III was plot armor, I would also like to add in an unfinished Clone Wars episode Grievous beat Obi-Wan in 2 seconds. Obi-Wan would escape later by Anakin's rescue.
    In my opinion if Grievous had the ability to use the Force, he would be the best jedi/dark jedi/sith in the Galaxy.

    • @thatinternetguy4054
      @thatinternetguy4054 8 лет назад +18

      +The Cool Persian He doesn't need the force to do that. He's already the greatest duelist, and he could beat anyone if they didn't have plot armour or force lightning. And all he has to do to counter the force lightning is put a lightsaber in the way.

    • @thatinternetguy4054
      @thatinternetguy4054 8 лет назад

      ***** Like who? Obi Wan?

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro 8 лет назад +7

      +The Cool Persian Pretty much. Grievous had several opportunities to kill Kenobi including literally walking right past a gun while the Jedi was hanging unarmed over a ledge. That whole fight seemed pretty short and awkward to me, but I think alot of it was the fact that a four-armed cgi character was fighting a real actor and the fact that, going in, Kenobi had to win to maintain continuity. But, much like the prequels in general, it sure wasn't very satisfying and seemed awfully contrived.

    • @FightingCucumber
      @FightingCucumber 8 лет назад +2

      i agree. but the movies made him a coward. sadly. the same thing with vader. sidious knew that he'd be the best sith/jedi the world had seen ( ep 3 ) but it turned out that he gets beaten by his son only training less than one year? :(

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro 8 лет назад +4

      FightingCucumber
      That's nothing. How about the fact that they also seemed to build about 2/3s of a Death Star out in some remote corner of the galaxy in between movies? Or how an entire legion of the Empire's best troops, even outfitted with walking tanks, were defeated by a bunch of f-ing overgrown teddy bears with pointy sticks and rocks?

  • @cincameron
    @cincameron 8 лет назад +18

    TCW Grievous was made WAY too underpowered. When I saw him struggling to quickly gain the upper hand against Ahsoka, I was done. Losing to Ventress was bad enough, but the fact that he was only shown beating a Jedi Knight and cheating to beat Eeth Koth, I lost hope in how they were portraying him.
    He was supposed to be a tactical genius, easily able to match Counsel Members' lightsaber and force abilities with just sabers and his mechanical body. Grievous could ramp up his attacks to hit 18 times per second. At the end of his training, he was even able to go as far as to push Dooku back until Dooku started applying force abilities in their practice. He bested Asajj Ventress and took control of the Droid Army + he rivaled the famous Obi-wan and traded victories and defeats with him on the battle field. The jedi thought of him as a monster and many of them fell to his blade.
    Although no longer canon, he easily killed Adi Gallia (fuck Savage... Grievous would tear him apart).

  • @WarlockInTraining
    @WarlockInTraining 8 лет назад +58

    So.... lets ignore the CANON of grievous, and just go with Legends? Normally I disagree, however, since Proxy is strictly Legends, I am comfortable with it.
    Also Clone Wars Grievous was not that bad. He still match Obi Wan, Maul in the short duels, and that one Jedi Council member that Savage killed. Whats her name? lol.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +7

      That's the only reason I made it Legends. Because this is in context of two Legends.

    • @locvo2050
      @locvo2050 6 лет назад +1

      King Gojira Adi gallia

  • @generalgrievous7525
    @generalgrievous7525 5 лет назад +4

    I'm not a droid,I am general Grievous. ©l)))

  • @fattlebieldproductions3198
    @fattlebieldproductions3198 7 лет назад +1

    love your channel dude, keep up the great work

  • @Vartellas
    @Vartellas 8 лет назад +15

    Can't wait for the geek rant on Grevious

    • @whynaut1
      @whynaut1 6 лет назад

      Theodore Nguyen me too man *sigh* me too

  • @AntoineBandele
    @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +13

    If you have the time, please take a survey for this channel:
    goo.gl/forms/OyxmPcNQEE

    • @minkel
      @minkel 7 лет назад

      Antoine Bandele you should do Darth Vader vs Anakin Skywalker

    • @minkel
      @minkel 7 лет назад +1

      Antoine Bandele you should do mace vs yoda

    • @bad38yt70
      @bad38yt70 7 лет назад

      alex Alonso is a nerd

  • @xavierhall185
    @xavierhall185 8 лет назад +2

    Great commentary!! It was very interesting!

  • @dixievfd55
    @dixievfd55 4 года назад +1

    Proxy: I hate being him. Galen: I think he hates being him.

  • @Dr_Evil_Mc-Bad
    @Dr_Evil_Mc-Bad 7 лет назад +5

    whoah whoah, you're saying that the general was almost able to completely copy a lightsaber style that had just been created, and was only capable by mace windu?!? on the dot!!!

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  7 лет назад +6

      Grievous has different styles in different lore. But yes in _Labyrinth of Evil_ he was a mimic.

    • @badgerbar3623
      @badgerbar3623 7 лет назад

      Antoine Bandele but wasn't vpad based on using your enemy's force power against them, and grievous had no force power

    • @arandomstormtrooper5865
      @arandomstormtrooper5865 7 лет назад

      Legatus Sedricillius

  • @KTA1sVidsandFacts
    @KTA1sVidsandFacts 8 лет назад +7

    BATTLE OF THE DROIDS, IF GRIEVOUS HEARD YOU SAY THAT, yeah you would be quite dead..

  • @magenta2787
    @magenta2787 4 года назад +2

    You also have to take into account that Grievous still has a mostly organic brain, not a mimic synthetic brain

  • @some_Russian_dude
    @some_Russian_dude 4 года назад +2

    You forgot the part of grevious background where the Jedi starved his people to death when they wanted to strike vengeance against the people who genocided his people. Also he is a cyborg even though he is mostly more machine.

  • @porpus99
    @porpus99 8 лет назад +7

    Was there even a need to make a Grievous vs Proxy video? I mean, it seems clear cut from the get go.

  • @Margrave_of_Brandenburg
    @Margrave_of_Brandenburg 8 лет назад +4

    Good video. I'll be looking forward to the Geek Rant on Grievous!

    • @shanebrown5340
      @shanebrown5340 8 лет назад

      Same here

    • @Wright805
      @Wright805 8 лет назад

      +shane motha fuckin brown And me.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +2

      +Fullmetal Jedi I'm finally getting around to one of the geek rants I promised!

  • @sebastianshepperd8264
    @sebastianshepperd8264 8 лет назад +1

    Personally general greveus is my favourite caricature, being able to split his two arms into four arms

  • @hudzee809
    @hudzee809 5 лет назад +2

    6:37 General grievous- "Im no droid!!"

  • @JotheAnimator
    @JotheAnimator 8 лет назад +31

    Grievous is like... The strongest Jedi Slayer ever...

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +8

      One of for sure.

    • @hussarblunt
      @hussarblunt 6 лет назад +5

      Jo the Animator 2nd Actually. The top one is the Darth Vader

    • @K40005
      @K40005 6 лет назад

      Styszo he mostly killed younglings

    • @pilkers2
      @pilkers2 5 лет назад +1

      Hussar actually grevious killed over 100-200 Jedi anakin was never strong enough in canon to defeat grevious

    • @frizon3298
      @frizon3298 5 лет назад

      True. He's not the strongest enemy of the Jedi but he just killed so many of them

  • @gad333mlg
    @gad333mlg 7 лет назад +4

    I'd have to say that Grievous was better in the 2003 clone wars than in episode III from what I've seen.

  • @itreallydoblikethatsometim7136
    @itreallydoblikethatsometim7136 8 лет назад

    I have subbed to you since around 5,000 you've grown I'm proud.

    • @fin0101
      @fin0101 8 лет назад +1

      love your name lol

    • @zsla4948
      @zsla4948 8 лет назад

      Alahu Americabar

    • @zxdiamond5126
      @zxdiamond5126 8 лет назад

      +fin0101 kinda mean with his name. Not really funny

  • @Gh0stthatwalks
    @Gh0stthatwalks 8 лет назад +1

    The Munn hired Grievous and as payment offered a Marshal plan to rebuild Grievous's homeworld with Banking clan capital. The clone wars worked out great for Grievous's native species with those Munn war reparations.

  • @drewpeackoc386
    @drewpeackoc386 7 лет назад +4

    imagine if grevious used all double bladed sabers.

  • @magicdragon9325
    @magicdragon9325 6 лет назад +4

    I love the 2008-2014 clone wars series, but I do believe they did a bad job with Grievous.

  • @gabrieloliva5069
    @gabrieloliva5069 8 лет назад +1

    Grievous be like: "GG E Z NO RE B1TCH!"

  • @KahmulofRuhn
    @KahmulofRuhn 8 лет назад +1

    Can some one please give me the name of the piece of music that plays at 8:04 onward I have been looking for it forever.

  • @AFlyingTrout
    @AFlyingTrout 8 лет назад +8

    Kyle Katarn versus Kanan Jarrus? One unconventional Jedi versus another?

  • @stileopard1159
    @stileopard1159 7 лет назад +4

    "I am not a droid!"

  • @CalamityDiamond
    @CalamityDiamond 7 лет назад +2

    Wait so Grevious just learned Vaapad from just fighting Windu? I thought only like two Jedi even knew that form and there's no way they taught Grevious.

  • @anthonyrapposelli8718
    @anthonyrapposelli8718 8 лет назад +1

    love your vids

  • @warmexalquist7510
    @warmexalquist7510 8 лет назад +30

    I must say I agree Grievous would win easily this is why I want the Pong Krell. But the next fight is interesting, let me guess you said thet although even Mace Windu beat Sidious, he would ot have majority wins if they fight 10 battles, is that right????

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад

      +Warmex Alquist It's not a Versus battle. It's a Geek Rant. Much like this:
      ruclips.net/video/8jftZUJDvFw/видео.html

    • @warmexalquist7510
      @warmexalquist7510 8 лет назад

      So than what is the next VS batte??????????????

    • @tylerbeckett1707
      @tylerbeckett1707 8 лет назад

      +Warmex Alquist I think it's a collaboration with Jensaarai1, which is Lord Scourge vs Rahm Kota.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +2

      +Warmex Alquist Next VS will be a Harry Potter episode.

    • @warmexalquist7510
      @warmexalquist7510 8 лет назад +1

      +Antoine Bandele It is little bit confusing in the end of VS battle shod be the next VS battle. I do not wach geek rant because I'm not much geek I have heart off warrior and any love all kinds of VS battles and yours are awsome, next is Harry Potter it would be interesting to see Harry Potter vs Dumbledore at the same age this could be interesting duel, I'm not that greath fan of Harry Potter universe and I do not know much about Dumbledore young age But I think could be unterestlinf t compare Harry Potter, Dumbledore and maybe Tom Riddle (not Coldemort) at the age of 17-19. What do you think????

  • @jessewolf999
    @jessewolf999 8 лет назад +5

    General Grievous would win with ease

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 7 лет назад +1

    I like how you call it Legends Canon. We need more people like you.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  7 лет назад

      It would have been more appropriate to call it Legends continuity.

    • @walnzell9328
      @walnzell9328 7 лет назад

      Antoine Bandele Never say that again.

  • @uzumaki403
    @uzumaki403 8 лет назад +2

    OMG thank you I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this about the Grievious from the Star wars clone wars CGI series they really REALLY underpowered him and Mocked his character.

  • @curedale1438
    @curedale1438 8 лет назад +3

    YES I THINK THIS WAS COMPLETELY FAIR

  • @jakubkohut9045
    @jakubkohut9045 7 лет назад +27

    pls make delta squad vs the bad batch

    • @RaptainCex
      @RaptainCex 7 лет назад

      delta ? you mean the domino squad ?

    • @ripninja3585
      @ripninja3585 7 лет назад +5

      Redik no, he means delta squad

    • @jakubkohut9045
      @jakubkohut9045 7 лет назад +5

      Delta squad from star wars Republic commando

    • @R0-83-RT
      @R0-83-RT 7 лет назад

      Good Idea, it may not seem like much but I will try to spread the word.

  • @mortemdrummer
    @mortemdrummer 8 лет назад

    Grievous has an entire droid army at his disposal I'm going with that

  • @NationalDevin
    @NationalDevin 8 лет назад +1

    I definitely agree with your choice on this one Antoine. As sophisticated as proxy was, he wasn't, as you stated, an assassin droid or a high quality jedi killer.
    You can only get so sophisticated, and Grevious is the top of the Droid Manufactering pyramid.

  • @joshuahallett6235
    @joshuahallett6235 8 лет назад +10

    Kyle Katarn V.s Mace Window

    • @tomg582
      @tomg582 8 лет назад +8

      Haha, window? 😂

    • @joshuahallett6235
      @joshuahallett6235 8 лет назад

      +Tom Grocutt
      my bad

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад

      +Joshua Hallett I'd really like to Antoine do that. He's the only one capable of covering such a match up without being biased.

    • @tomg582
      @tomg582 8 лет назад +1

      It's fine I found it quite amusing for some reason haha. I might call him that from now on. Antoine has also coincided Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Mace Windu.

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +1

      +Tom Grocutt Windu vs Kenobi has to be done on this channel. Antoine's the only one who can make it unbiased and emphasize how close the fight would be. Despite what people may think, a fight between the two would be a lot closer than most would think.

  • @mass3760
    @mass3760 8 лет назад +5

    totally agree, grievous is awsome

  • @irish14sean
    @irish14sean 8 лет назад +1

    I'm glad you did this. I've seen alot of Star Wars versus but they never showcased Grievous cause he can't use the Force. Despite being one sided, this was a good match.

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +1

      Thank you. I will be using Grievous again.

  • @willoliver8167
    @willoliver8167 8 лет назад

    At one point in the expanded universe I remember grievous getting an upgrade that put extremely powerful gravity manipulators in his hands, allowing him to use a less powerful version of the force, this made him almost unstoppable.

  • @djsmooth52
    @djsmooth52 8 лет назад +12

    Should have done General Krell VS General Grievous smh... This was a predictable VS video smh.

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад

      +David Jerkins Despite Grievous winning most of the fights, PROXY gave a good one in each.

    • @thesen8
      @thesen8 8 лет назад

      +Leteća Kokoš 360 General Krell was in the jedi council. He turned to the darkside during the clone wars though.

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 8 лет назад +1

      XxSMBProxXGaming I far as I know, he wasn't.

  • @TheFuryProduction
    @TheFuryProduction 8 лет назад +8

    Grievous better win!

  • @carringtongreen4616
    @carringtongreen4616 8 лет назад

    Love this guy videos

  • @sethmiles9436
    @sethmiles9436 8 лет назад

    What music to do you for the physical abilities?

  • @DB6195
    @DB6195 8 лет назад +4

    IMO Grievous never really fights himself, much like Kenobi giving himself to the force I believe Grievous's computer fights more than himself
    From my point of view Grievous could never really be beaten offensively (like Windu tried) as his computer would simply adapt and match whatever is thrown at him
    I also do not believe Grievous truly controlled his actions combat. Simple commands like "Faster" against Kenobi or "Stronger" were about the level control he had, while his combat algorithms handled the rest
    This would explain why Kenobi was the only Jedi who could defeat him, as his purely defensive stance gave Grievous nothing to adapt too.
    As for a Dooku, during there training sessions Dooku was always on the defensive similar Kenobi. The fact that Grievous was beginning to counter Dooku can also be explained this way.
    Makashi encouraged the development of unusual and personalised manoeuvres, Dooku personified this, rarely if ever responding the same way to tactical circumstances
    By the end of the Clone Wars, despite Dooku's large repertoire of moves Grievous's combat computer had simply documented the majority allowing him to predict and counter his moves thus explaining the Counts increased difficulty
    Therefore though his physical enhancements place him on and around the level of Jedi Masters, in direct combat I believe we should more accredit Grievous feats to his droid brain than his own

    • @SensuixShinobu7
      @SensuixShinobu7 8 лет назад

      +DB6195 He doesn't have a droid brain. he's a cyborg.

    • @Wright805
      @Wright805 8 лет назад

      +Vegeta Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan True, but it's stated in Labyrinth of Evil that he had micro-computers linked to his organic brain.

    • @SensuixShinobu7
      @SensuixShinobu7 8 лет назад

      Wright805 good point.

    • @wruvehgabe727
      @wruvehgabe727 8 лет назад

      +DB6195 From my point of view the jedi are evil!

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад

      +DB6195 Very, very good point.

  • @teeze8751
    @teeze8751 8 лет назад +12

    do starkiller vs kylo ren

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +9

      Kylo Ren is not well defined as a combatant. We’ve only seen him in one duel, a duel which was mired in circumstance by way of plot convenience, injury and psychological turmoil.

    • @ryanlee2747
      @ryanlee2747 8 лет назад +8

      +Antoine Bandele Lets be honest here anyway. Starkiller would win, sure Kylo has the force power but Galen was growing to be as powerful as the Emperor. Kylo would get rekt if you ask me.

    • @monadoboi871
      @monadoboi871 8 лет назад +5

      No matter how skilled Kylo Ren is, he can't fight a Jedi as powerful as Starkiller.

    • @berthaa9921
      @berthaa9921 6 лет назад +1

      Antoine Bandele you're right Kylo Ren is still no match for Galen Marks as Starkiller Kylo ren is still has much to learn. Remember what Darth Palpatine said to Vader "He has more powerful then ever" if it wasn't for The Dark Side. Lord Starkiller will now will become Doubles Has Powerful then a Jedi and a Sith. But he's not the number one most powerful by his chaos.

    • @awesomechrisdude123
      @awesomechrisdude123 6 лет назад +2

      Starkiller would squish Kylo.

  • @oneannoyingwhiteguy
    @oneannoyingwhiteguy 7 лет назад +2

    R2-D2 vs Chopper. The battle of the droid rebels.

  • @marsha55555
    @marsha55555 8 лет назад

    do you have a playlist for the music you used? specifically i want to know what song you used for the round 1 slide with anakin

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад

      All music credited at the end of the video.

    • @marsha55555
      @marsha55555 8 лет назад

      +Antoine Bandele ah I'm fucking dumb thank you

  • @anthonychic6537
    @anthonychic6537 8 лет назад +3

    Cool !

  • @ianscott9596
    @ianscott9596 7 лет назад +7

    geek rant on Greivious in clone wars (2008)

  • @Tyler_3
    @Tyler_3 8 лет назад

    love the intro, its so sick

  • @Ryan-rd4kc
    @Ryan-rd4kc 7 лет назад +1

    Grievous had a hatred for the Jedi before his shuttle crash, when the Jedi forced his people back and helped the Republic employ unfair taxation and trade blockades on his home planet. His hatred wasn't ALL a lie!

  • @bulecrow541
    @bulecrow541 8 лет назад +12

    but couldn't proxy replicate greivous?

    • @MrFoniek
      @MrFoniek 8 лет назад

      +Blue Crow My thougts exactly

    • @IroncladQuzar
      @IroncladQuzar 8 лет назад +12

      But with only two arms and shite speed

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 8 лет назад +2

      +William Myers not true. he can pop out 4 arms too. i seewhy not since he can create any weapon out of nothing and is able to form thier body to pretty much anything. he would have the same speed too since he would have the exact same body.

    • @IroncladQuzar
      @IroncladQuzar 8 лет назад +8

      +Jody Boles I was not aware he could, however it is often mentioned by Galen that proxy was never on par with the real deals, kinda like a jack of all trades deal.

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 8 лет назад

      William Myers true but this is because the real ones had actual force powers. Proxy doesn't but neither does grievous. It's possible proxy will still lose but at least it would be a very close match if he was able to fight just like grievous can. Grievous will just have more combat experience unless proxy knows everything that he knew so yea lol.

  • @michaelford5563
    @michaelford5563 8 лет назад +9

    What if Proxy transformed into Grievous? O_O

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +3

      +Michael Fordude Not possible from what I discerned. He could only turn into humanoids relative to his size.

    • @dillerfilms127
      @dillerfilms127 8 лет назад

      +Antoine Bandele Asajj Ventress vs Starkiller

    • @michaelford5563
      @michaelford5563 8 лет назад

      Antoine Bandele lol. That'd be awkward

    • @sokandueler9578
      @sokandueler9578 8 лет назад +2

      +Antoine Bandele but he turned into darth vader who is also 7 ft tall, is I'm not mistaken. or was he in between 6&7 ft?

  • @IslandVibes_
    @IslandVibes_ 8 лет назад +1

    I must say, I love that intro song..what is it called?

  • @rsfan24
    @rsfan24 8 лет назад

    yo, Antoine. A buddy mine proposed an interesting VS encounter, and I had a bit of trouble selecting. What do you think about Darth Revan vs Darth Bane?

  • @FTCBlitz
    @FTCBlitz 7 лет назад +4

    do general grevious and proxy

  • @radicallarry9424
    @radicallarry9424 8 лет назад +8

    #betterthandeathbattle

    • @AntoineBandele
      @AntoineBandele  8 лет назад +2

      We definitely different. We approach battles differently. They are more stat-based.

    • @radicallarry9424
      @radicallarry9424 8 лет назад

      Antoine Bandele I hope your channel grows to become larger. I really enjoyed this video and hope that more people recognize you. Keep up the good work! :D

  • @BLeachRoX4eVa
    @BLeachRoX4eVa 8 лет назад

    sry but can some1 fill me in where the battle scene is from just before it cuts into Round 2?

  • @tysontross6766
    @tysontross6766 5 лет назад

    This is like having Jar Jar fight Yoda. You can already tell who will win.