Zelda is the only game with drunk party aliens. Think about it. "They" always target the ranch, always grab the cows which give a special milk implied to be alcoholic and always come before the Festival. They literally come to Termina to get drunk and party.
Actually I think I can explain Navi's leaving of Link at the end of OoT. Its symbolic of growing up. The Kokiri live in the forest and never age. They also never get lost because they have a Fairy companion to guide them. While Navi is with Link during his adventure he is free to return to his childhood. But at the end, she leaves symbolizing while that he has returned to being in child form, he is no longer a child as he has grown from his adventure and she doesn't need to guide him any more. Link can no longer return to the forest, a place that represents eternal childhood. He goes looking for Navi in MM, aiming to reclaim his childhood but gets lost in the woods. MM's story focuses on meeting new people and making new friends and parting ways with them. Skullkid's comment about Link being the same kid that taught him the song in the woods and asking to be friends is one example. Skullkid's entire arc is about making friends, thinking the giant's stopped being his friend and left him alone. This mirror's Link and Navi. At the end of MM, Link leaves the forest and rides off in search of new adventure. I hate that people say "Link is dead" in MM or something similar. Totally missing the true message of the game.
Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever. Whether a parting be forever or merely for a short while... that is up to you. - happy mask salesmen.
I like to believe that Demise WAS the chaos that the Goddesses displaced when making the world. Enraged, he took a physical form that was as opposite of the Goddesses as possible. Even going so far as to invert their insignia and craft twisted beings in mockery of their own creations.
Guys actually look at this based on the majora’s mask theory link is going through the acceptance of his own death (watch game theory) It would make perfect sense why she would leave with no word it’s because there was nobody there link was only there in spirit she knew he was dead and that’s why she left she was sad it’s actually very upsetting and makes a lot of sense
My theory for the origin of Demise: Maybe Demise WAS the chaos that was Hyrule. But then, the three goddesses came and created the land itself. The events of that war where Demise burst from the ground was basically him finally breaking free, pissed cause they dumped a country on him, how rude.
I've always assumed this was the case. It explains it perfectly. What came to be known as "Demise", was the incarnation of the chaos before Hyrule. He was all of it. Then the goddesses came to the void that was him, and made things that weren't him. He was no longer all of it. It was no longer chaos. It was now chaos and order. The more the goddesses created and prospered, the less and less of what he was before he became. Until one day, the chaos had enough order and created an incarnation that could fight the order that was imposing itself onto it. And just like the goddesses in the chaos, the chaos itself created it's own creatures, it walked the land with the surface dwellers too. And when this happened the order that was the piece of land cracked and bled fourth the chaos that came before. It had come to the land of order to reclaim it as the chaos it rightfully presided.
I agree in almost every origins of time story like Greek/Roman gods there is always an ethereal good and one pure evil. Two ends of the scale. A sort of balance of good and evil is a verryyyyy common theme in many many different things
*Thank you* for putting the Aliens as the first theory since you advertised them on the thumbnail, so many other RUclipsrs use the thumbnail to tease people into watching a video, only to watch it all the way through just to see what was advertised... But you went straight to the point and because of that, I wanted to see what else you had to show!
GOD that's such a good point like. You think to yourself "well if this is number FIVE, I gotta see what number ONE looks like!" And a GOOD RUclipsr (like Zeltik) delivers.
The Navi mystery was short, but damn. Link ending up in Termina is a result of Link searching for her, but now knowing that his search has probably been for nothing because she's most likely dead is quite depressing. I genuinely didn't think Majora's Mask could get any darker, but now it is.
I disagree with Zeltik's interpretation on this one. To me, the friend Link was searching for was Skull Kid. It had absolutely nothing to do with Navi. It has been many years since I played Majora but I remember several references to Skull Kid running away from the lost woods because he thought no one liked him. Majora then latched on to that weakness in Skull Kid's heart. The resolution of Skull Kid's loneliness is one of the core themes of the game and it doesn't make any sense for the story to be about Navi. I don't think she is mentioned at all within the game.
@@zarabada6125 i agree somewhat but the main reason is indeed because of navi's disappearance. At the very beginning of the game, when you press start, it will tell you link was looking for an old friend. If you listen very closely, from what i remember, you will hear navi's same sound from oot
@@nachtzauberer Skull Kid helped in Link's journey in OoT. You get a heart piece in return for teaching him Saria's song and you get to sell him a mask as part of the happy mask quest. The end of Majora's mask also reveals that Link, "smells like that fairy kid that taught me that song in the woods."
@@sirei01 It is true, take a look at the end sequence for Majora's Mask. It is in both the original and 3DS versions. ruclips.net/video/uhivoyveuJA/видео.html Watch from 3:05.
I'm with you on that it was the Goddesses who created Demise. What Zelda said in Twilight Princess fits quite well: "Shadow and Light are two sides of the same coin...One cannot exist without the other."
There's a webcomic on Tumblr called A Tale of Two Rulers, that has its own spin on the origins of the characters, and the most recent page is telling the story of Demise and Hylia. You might want to read it.
BUT (as far as I understood) shadow and darkness are distinct. Shadow is there the twilli belong to. A realm comparable to hyrule with inhabitans just living their lives as hylians do. Ans as with real Shadows, they Need light to exist, but darkness does not. Darkness is just a lack of light, thus darkness is actually beyond light and shadow. It seems to be that the transformed twilli who followed Zant sre creatures of darkness. The light spirit also referred to them as demons. And I think that ganondorf actzally intented to merge shadow and light together to twillight, both will cause the other to cease, whereupon only darkness would remain, fullfilling the Desire of demise. Ganondorf betrayed zant and the shadowpeople anyway as revealed before the final boss. It seems to be counter intuituv to our common understanding of light afsinst darkness, but i think in the zelda universe, it is rather shadow the counterpart of light and a neccessary part of it , while darkness is opposed to both shadows and light.
I just realized this about Navi, but the Great Deku Tree specifically told Navi to accompany Link on his journey. If the fairies were under the control of the Great Deku Tree then maybe they literally only follow commands and then return to the forest upon completion of those orders. This would offer up a plausible reasoning for Navi's mysterious departure at the end of Ocarina of Time and could even explain why Link went searching for her afterward. Knowing his friend would never be given new instructions, he could have sought to find and help her. Just a thought.
That shrimp in the stone carving looks like it's actually the tail from the zora's head to me. If you look carefully, you can see that it's behind the spear, and not actually impaled on it.
Polly Bonanzas and the fact that it's a three part painting (certain word, I forget what) meaning that there's a good chance it means the first one is the ideal or the cause, middle is something, last one is result/current state/mood
@@zapunknown wind waker and twilight on switch would be the absolute dream. I looked on amazon for a game cube and a copy of those 2 games because i had a random hit of nostalgia, and theyre crazy expensive. Easily my 2 favorite zelda games.
I am surprised that you didnt mention that the window that Navi disappears into is, if we go by Twilight Princess (since the OoT Temple of Time and TP Temple of Time seem to be the same), the entrance into the Temple of Light, ''Inner/True'' Temple of Time or even the Sacred Realm.
I’d like to mention that later in the Child Timeline (Twilight Princess) we find out that the window Navi goes through leads to a dungeon. And on the topic of Demise’s origin, I like to think that he was just a creature or darkness created to cancel out Hylia, kind of like a cosmic Dark Link.
While watching this video I remembered that the theme song for the "aliens" in Majora's Mask is acctuelly called "Ghost attack" and I have a faint memory of a story regarding a Japanese "ghost" that resemble aliens, so that might be the solution for that mystery.
I feel like it's possible Hylia is also a creation of the Golden Goddesses, and Demise might be a proper natural counterpart, such as a shadow cast by light first appearing in Hyrule. Also another unexplained mystery, the entirety of the Ikana.
The Hylia/Demise theory makes perfect sense! Kind of like a Jin Jan thing that is going on. I like the Idea. However for Ikana: I wouldn't look to much into it because I never had the feeling that Termina is supposed to be a "real place" in Zelda. I was always a fan of the "Link is dead" theory but even if you just take everything that is definetely presented in the game, Termina always felt like something like "Wonderland" or "Oz" to me. A mysterious land that only exists as a fantasy. It is like asking were "Koholint Island" in Link's Awakening lies... the answer is nowere because it only exists in a dream. There is no ancient culture that built the Face Shrine.
Until you realise that Nintendo retconned termina to just be another country and you save it cause the moon crashing would destroy hyrule :( which sucks. I prefer the alternate reality theory where links counter part is missing cause it's the fierce deity sealed into the mask.
@@malte1984 Definitely the thought I had. x) I figured it'd make sense in a way. (MM) I agree with that partially: I enjoyed the "Link is Dead" theory, but there are instances where it doesn't work. As for Termina being a fantasy land akin to that of Oz, yes and no. I love the idea that Termina is something different entirely, but I also sort of detest the comparison to Koholint. When Majora's Mask was released its booklet and in-game text labels it a parallel world, to which yes it can be written as a dream world, but it can also not be. I'd find it incredibly lazy for Nintendo to retcon it as not real (primarily dream world), and from Skull Kid specifically. We have a variety of realms in the Zelda universe such as Lorule, Twilight Realm, and if you really want to add, Dark World. I understand not having an explanation on a realm's origin is difficult, but it didn't deserve to be dumbed down to "fake/dream world" when there are plenty of ways Nintendo could have written it. We already have the dream world Koholint in the series, why drive away the enigma Termina had to make it yet another twisted Koholint essentially? Especially with such a potent entity like Majora that could very well have had the ability to open pocket dimensions (doesn't mean such are not real, Zeltik even humoured the idea of Demise from an alternate dimension) considering the mask was used for Hexing and torture rituals. Such a thought gives me SCP-106 vibes... If we're going to deem it a fake/dream world by Majora and Skull kid then I would love if they included additional details. Surely other parts of this Unreal Termina could have been created per user/victim of the mask. Hell, I'd be fine with the entirety of Ikana being fabricated based on the details of the Hyrulean Civil War, Shadow Temple, Hyrulean family, and the Sheikah. I just wish we got more out of it. :(
@@himeoftwili Dark World was just the corruption of the Golden Land where the Triforce rests, you only barely see it when Link wakes up as a grown up in OoT, and when all the sages are gathered.
Another interesting unexplained mystery I don't see mentioned anywhere: the co-existence of Rito and and Zora in Breath of the Wild. The Rito were explicitly said to be descended from the Zora in Wind Waker; an evolution triggered by the gods themselves to ensure that Hyrule would remain beyond anyone's reach beneath the sea. The Rito's existence depends on the Zora's extinction. So how do they both casually exist in Breath of the Wild ?
I've always belived the Rito in BOTW Are Differemt than the WW ones,while the WW ones are Evolved Zoras,The BOTW ones Are true birds,who happen to have the same name of WW Rito.
Don't try to wrap your head around the actions and intentions of supposed goddesses. They could have caused the Zora to come back after WW flood waters magically receded or something.
@@TempoKong It is not canon, but it shows how the calamity could have been defeated without the champions dying and link waking up in the shrine of resurrection.
This, and he doesn't distrupt the flow of his videos just to panhandle and beg for likes/subscribers like a certain Dr. started doing, hence why I unsubbed from that channel...
@@mandospiegel8994 Peebs only does Zelda for November, or as he dubbed it "Zelda Month". Even then I think he's close to ending it considering he's practically covered everything.
When I was a kid playing “Ocarina”, I assumed that Navi left at the end of the game because she’d been promoted to “Great Fairy”. I always imagined a tearful, but happy farewell.😊
In TP the carvings with the rito and Zoras and a child with parents reminds me of botw. Botw had all those races and links father supposedly was a knight/ soldier. Link trained to fight as well as a child according to various diary entries in the dlc. Maybe that carving is a hint to that game.?
It looked like Darunia, Ganondorf, (child) Link, and (adult) Zelda in the first. Twilight Princess is from the Triumphant Hero Child Timeline, where Ganondorf was stopped, so this makes sense. The second shows Rito, a woman with an urn, and (child) Link. Since Rito only appeared in Wind Waker, from the Triumphant Hero Adult Timeline, it doesn't make much sense for it to show up there except as fanservice. Last one just shows a Zora, Ooccoo, (child) Link, and the same man from the first (Ganondorf).
Reminds me of the scene of Gannondorf in hyrule castle in oot where he's bowing to the king, makes me think that this could be a different king of the gerudo that's not a reincarnation of Ganon, or possibly that after oot Gannondorf is no longer evil after link goes back in time
@@lukemacinnes5124 Even after Link went back in time, Ganondorf was still evil, which is why he was eventually given the death sentence, long before the events of Twilight Princess. The failed execution of Ganondorf are what put the events of Twilight Princess into motion.
Breath of the Wild almost had an alien invasion quest as DLC before they changed their minds and made The Champion's Ballad instead. Clearly someone on the dev team has a love for this sort of thing, so maybe they'll find a way to work it into the next non-remake.
It does somehow look like someone just dropped a random piece of land on top of another piece of land, doesn't it? Almost like it doesn't quite belong...
At the end of the BOTW 2 teaser trailer, you can see the castle is being lifted out of the ground. Your theory that lands might be swap places makes so much sense! I’m so excited rn
I'm almost certain the woman in the stone carving is Link's mother Wasn't it said in Ocarina of Time that Link was brought to the Kokiri Forest by his mother, who died upon reaching the meadow and striking a deal with the Great Deku Tree?
The king said that according to Legend, the great Plateau was the birthplace of the Kingdom of Hyrule. I believe that the ruins similar to the Castle Town from OoT IS the same ruins. But over time, they relocated the Castle for unknown purposes.
Maybe Hyrule Castle and Hyrule Castle Town weren't exactly relocated, but rebuilt, due to their destruction at the hands of Ganondorf and his monsters, during the adult timeline in Ocarina of Time.
Im so glad i found this channel a few days ago. It re-ignited my love for the series after years. Even made me go out and buy a Switch for Breath of the Wild
I like to think that Demise is the Lorulian version of Hylia. Hylia preserves the world and defends the triforce while Demise destroys the world and wants to take the triforce
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 I remember that. I've been here ever since Zelda U was announced, thinking, dang this guy has some crazy thinking skills, connecting dots before anyone else.
Obviously, if Hylia existed in Hyrule, then there must be a counterpart to her in Lorule, right? If the polar opposite of a benevolent goddess isn't a demon king, then I give up.
Y'know, I just thought that maybe Majora's Mask does support the Navi dying theory. Because he goes looking for a for his friend in the lost woods and instead stumbles upon Termina, a place that in many ways represents the process of going through grief.
I wouldn't say the Zora on the last carving has a shrimp impaled on his spear, it might be his fin-thingy that is attached to his head swinging kind of around him. Just my interpretation. :)
My hypothesis: the mural in TP showcases Link, Zelda and Ganondorf as the child, the woman and the man, and they interact with different races that aren't specific people (so that Goron doesn't have to necessarily be Darunia, for example). The existence of the Ritos and the Zoras at the same time would highly suggest to me that BotW is a game of the Child timeline. I was already thinking that would be the case bc of the Gerudos. The Child timeline is the only one to both showcase Gerudos as a common race after OoT and having them leave out their thieving ways (Four Swords Adventures is the game that shows them). If the Ritos appeared while the Zoras still exist in the Child timeline too, it'd match BotW even better.
Always interpreted Breath of the Wild as a point in which all timelines end up syncing up with one another, an inevitability that would occur no matter in what ways the timelines diverge. Thus, it falls at the end of ALL the timelines.
The biggest argument against the Child timeline for me is that the Zoras have recorded history of how Princess Ruto helped the Hero and the Princess seal Ganon, after she has awakened as a Sage. In the Child Timeline, Ganon wasn't sealed and Ruto never needed to become a sage since Ganon was sent to the Twilight Realm before he could execute his plan. Ruto only becomes a sage in the Downfall and Adult Timeline.
@@inktears1164 There's a dead evil composer in Ikana Canyon who says that he sold his soul to a devil. I don't remember much about it, but Skull Kid makes sense. That guy was all over the place.
He was the next mask victim maybe? As they contain the souñ of someone, just have to wait till he dies maybe. But still the "devil" in that I wouldn't know srry
Probabbly skull kid, Time seems to flow diffrently from Hyrule to Termina When link arrives, Skull kid has already fucked up alot of things, depite the short time frame
my theory for the fifth mystery actually kinda makes sense for the entire series. I think the Curse of Demise afflicts the land of Hyrule as well. Causing the land itself to shift and obscure, so no two assaults on the beings of light, the Hylians, is ever quite the same. He pokes and prods at defenses, and plots and schemes just as an eternal hate would, trying to come up with just the right plan at just the right time to completely wipe out all life.
I choose to believe that the great plateau was purposefully moved using Sheikah tech and/or some other kind of magic during the 100 years. Possibly as a way to protect the shrine of resurrection from Ganon's evil.
I was thinking along the same lines but with enemies found just outside the Shrine of Resurrection, doesn't seem like that intention was effective. Also interesting to note that the King of Hyrule's ghost lives on the Plateau waiting for Link
Idea for Demise’s origins: It says that the goddesses *created* Hyrule. This means that before the descended from the Heavens, there was something already there. This means one of two things: either this is how Lorule was created, or this is the place where Demise came from, and where the fissure would have led to: a cruel, uncontrolled, chaotic realm.
For castle town being on the great plateau, you have to realize how many years it’s been. It has to be hundreds of thousands years old. They likely built a new castle in a different location. If something happened to the castle (like Ganon destroying it) caused them to build a new one.
I heard a theory that Castle Town was swapped with the Korok Forest by either the Great Deku Tree or some other strong magical force in order to hide the Master Sword
I don't know how likely it is, but the fact that the champions ballad reveals that there is a divine beast under the great plateau might have something to do with its being moved. After all we enter this divine beast as the finale of the dlc but we never actually see which beast it resembles as unlike the other four it remains buried. I always wondered if there were actually even more divine beasts hidden deep under hyrule buried so far that no one could find them. Maybe there is another massive mechanical beast under the korok forest, I agree that these two areas seem to have been swapped at some point. The shape of the great forest area on the map seems to fit so well with the shape of the great plateau. Great video Zeltik I always enjoy when you play with the lore and you remain one of the better more consistent zelda youtubers I have encounterd, I'm looking forward to whatever comes next.
+Simon O'Rourke The Divine Beast under the Great plateau looks like some sort of butterfly in my opinion. But the actual Divine Beast here is the bike, no?
The Navi thing came from a scrapped idea. I can't remember if it was the books or just interviews that went over it but it isn't an unsolved mystery. Navi developed a crush on Link and at the end of the adventure, she realizes they can't be together so she leaves.
During game development she got jealous of the likes of Ruto and Malon, but that idea never made it to the finished game. I wonder if they kept it as part of the lore anyway though.
@@Icalasari People making blasphemous symbols out of anger toward the Goddesses would make sense. Maybe after enough generations (the flood was long enough ago that it was seen by many as an old folktale, after all) people forgot the significance of that symbol? (A bit like the fleur-de-lis, which has unclear origins but is found throughout European heraldry even to this day.)
@@Aladato Wouldn't they be Satanists instead. I think Atheists would be more the Yigs clan or Sheikah clan because they believe in science and technology more.
Lorule's triforce is just as good and golden as the triforce of Hyrule, it is in no way opposite or evil and if he came from Lorule, then Hyrule would have a similar version too.
Lorule is described as a dark mirror of Hyrule. If Hylia exists in Hyrule, then some kind of opposite should exist in Lorule regardless of the Triforce's goodness or not. And the Triforce in Lorule had to be restored didn't it. Demise would make sense as the opposite of Hylia. There has to be balance after all especially if you have a whole world that is a mirror, there has to be a reflection. The Triforce can be corrupted. It can become it's own opposite. Therefore someone has to exist to be able to corrupt it.
Dev 1: "Dude, I'm going to design an area that is identical to OoT's Castle Town." Dev 2: "What? Why?" Dev 1: "Because it's going to mess with people's minds." Dev 2: "Oooh! Haha! That's awesome. I'm going to do Lon Lon Ranch then."
The navi dissapearing thing alsways made sense to me. As I always understood it, the fairies are the reason the kokiris don't get lost in the Lost Woods (which explains why link never left before he got accompanied by navi). Which in turn means, navi left, because link is now supposed to live a normal life, in the world he is supposed to grow up in, as a hylian, and not to be a child forever. Which in turn explains him getting lost in MM (no matter if you are a fan of theories of MM or not), because he has no chance to find the kokiri without a fairy.
I believe the swap of The Great Plateau and Korok Forest is merely a design choice so people wouldn't use the paraglider and jump into Hyrule Castle right away, since the plateau is way above the rest of the land and the castle itself
Zelda has always put gameplay first. I feel like they swapped Plateau and Lost Woods because of proximity to the castle. The castle's imposing nature would draw attention away from the possibility of open exploration after beating the Plateau.
That’s what I was thinking. It’s more of a gameplay thing because it feels like you can go any direction you want if you’re somewhat in the center of the map rather than the very top where all you could go was south.
I'd say the origin of Demise is this: after the three goddesses created everything, Din (the Goddess of power) wanted to rule over everything they created. To remain holy, Din probably shed that evil and I'd say that evil became Demise. That's why the triforce of power goes to Ganondorf
My guess with the Great Plateau conundrum would be that it was the Sheikah who swapped the forest and the town. We know that they designed all these shrines and tests for Link, made the Sheikah Slate to map the world and give Link all these abilities. We know they’re still around due to the fact that Kakariko Village is full of them in this time, so it’s quite possible for them to have learned where Zelda placed him in the Shrine, and took it upon themselves to protect him further by moving the location of the shrine to the top of a plateau so that he would be safe while he healed. The fact that the plateau has ruins all around the edges is interesting as well, making it seem possible that perhaps the plateau wasn’t entirely naturally formed, and Zelda would have had a lot of trouble climbing those cliffs to place Link in the Shrine, make it possible that perhaps the Shrine was moved to the Plateau after Zelda put him there. We know that the Sheikah have the ability to use magic, that’s pretty well documented by now. With big enough numbers of them, it seems quite possible that they would be able to move such big chunks of land. Plus, Impa lives in Kakariko, she more thank likely knows the duty passed down through various generations/incarnations of Impas, and given that she couldn’t really do much to protect Zelda while Zelda was stopping Ganon at the castle, I could definitely see the next best option for action being protecting Link while he recovered. Also, swapping the location with the Lost Woods would give Link even more protection, given that anyone who went looking for the Shrine would go to it’s last known location, end up lost in the woods and either get lost forever or get turned away and disoriented. Disguising the Shrine’s former location by hiding it with the Lost Woods is really really clever.
The Aliens thing was sort of explained by the creator. He said it was inspired by the Flatwoods monster attacks that happened in West Virginia. It was sort of a Easter egg.
Well, the plateau mystery has been solved by the champions ballad dlc, it is link's divine beast, but this vid was made before the dlc so it's not your fault Btw THIS is the kind of content that I want. Along with incarnations rankings (like link's and ganondorf's). Good job, absolutely keep going!
Stone carving (My interpretation): Panel 1- Goron & Hylian exchange of culture. Child “Link” and his Parents(?) meet a Goron and they share their stories of their lives, etc. Panel 2- Hylia/Hylian Woman/“Zelda(?)” and “Link(?)” exchange goods/information with Rito Villagers. “Urn”/Vase of trade/importance is the subject of topic, and culture sharing. Panel 3- “Link(?)” and ‘Father’ are enjoying an evening with a fellow Zora on their travels. They are fishing and come upon an Occa/Ocka(?).
@@W11ngd that would make sense, as botw is the only game with both the rito and zoras, but then what doesnt make sense is the ooccoos, as they dont appear in botw.
@@spazzmaticus9086 yeah, I thought of this too but it was just an idea from the fact that all these tribes creatures evolve when needed thanks to the goddesses. I mean the rito aren't exactly like ww ones and they pretty much look more evolved than before and also these are more bird like than human. I saw a video before this about the rito from botw weren't rito from ww, in conclusion not zoras so idk zoras went through so many phases and there really isn't any sky tribe maybe ooccoos are rito? Idk it's too much for me but I wanna believe botw can fit in all of tp cause I'm into the idea that this is the continuing of the time line, and that's wrong from me... Sorry
Major theory that just popped into my head... Why do weapons break so easily in BOTW? My two answers to this is... #1. Ganon cursed the land of Hyrule so hard, that even weapons break, so that no-one can fight back upon his return... #2. Link is so strong that no weapon can withstand the force of his swings (he is, after all, able to wield Daruk's greatsword with ease)...
I feel like the locations in BotW matching locations from other games is more like a series of Easter eggs than any serious secret. BotW's map is ginormous, and a handful of obvious instances of reusing classic, recognizable maps is just something to keep us entertained. I bet there's more than just castle town and outset island if we look!
"They" still terrify me to this day. The music is so creepy. And the anxiety as they get too close to the barn. It's easier to kill them if you play slowed down, but I play normal speed because I just want it to be over
In TP the Temple of Time can be found in the forest near the south of the map. Maybe the change happened even before then. The castle town in BOTW is clearly TP's and it roughly matches up with where OoT's castle town is. Maybe the updated textures in TP HD have something to do with it. Maybe it's trying to tell us the story and we just didn't piece everything together yet. Maybe we're missing something else too. Or maybe it's just not something that needs explained. Almost every new game has a new map so it's just kind of a random reference. I like to believe not but maybe it's the truth.
I’m glad someone else appreciates that finishing blow against demise as much as I do. That spin with the lightning striking right at the crest of Link’s jump just hits different.
Entertaining stuff. Obviously you have a capture card in your 3DS. You spend a lot of time on the cinematics, which I love. I think you should have had footage of the original Twilight Princess to help with the contrast, though
You don't actually need a capture card to record 3ds gameplay. You can use citra emulator on PC to easily play/record 3ds games. You can also stream your console to a PC with a hacked new 3ds/2ds :)
Man these mysteries are so interesting. I hope BOTW2 helps explain some of this stuff. However, given Zelda's history it will just add to the mysterious nature of hyrule. Amazing, thanks for the video!
I really could listen to and watch your content all day long. And, no matter how much I think I know about whatever you're going to talk about, you ALWAYS show me something I've never even heard of! It's mind-boggling, and appreciated. Keep up the fantastic work on this series and all your other videos!
From what I understand about programming, a lot of these seem like the creators easy way out like "oh nobody will notice" to meet deadlines of game release. But this give them so much character and room for fans to theorize about these minor details that could lead to new ideas for Nintendo
For the Demise theory, what If Demise was the embodiment of the chaos at the beginning of time, and when the goddesses created everything, he was only suppressed, not destroyed, and was dwelling under the surface, idk just my thoughts lol
One possible explanation for the origin of the Song of Storms could be that Link from the first cycle (where he didn't get the song taught by the guy in the windmill) learned the song from somewhere else, maybe Termina taught the guy in the windmill. 7 years later, the adult Link we play in OoT (another cycle) gets taught the song by the guy in the windmill, before Link would get the information from Termina, and, as we see ingame, travels back in time to just before his version from the prior timeloop would teach the guy in the windmill the song. Instead of the first timeloop-Link teaching the windmill guy the song, our Link that has now learnt the song from the guy in the windmill 7 years later teaches that guy the song.
No matter how many times I play Ocarina, I always inevitably shed a tear when Navi flies away T_T Though a friend of mine told me a theory of hers that made me feel a tiny bit less bad. Navi was a "fairy in training" of sorts, and eventually she became the new (and only) Great Fairy in Twilight Princess. There's no clues anywhere that leads to believe this, but I like the idea. About the Hyrule Field, isn't it obvious? You said yourself that just the plateau is already bigger than the whole map in Ocarina. With so much new space, there's a lot more land that can be hyrulean fields, it doesn't have to be just one. In fact, almost the whole map in BotW could be called a field.
It would have made more sense if Link (in BoTW) Started in the Lost Woods, Where the new shrine of resurrection would be. Didn’t Zelda also go all the way to the Lost Woods before trying to stop Calamity Ganon? I think the lost woods was the original tutorial area. But for some reason Nintendo decided not to.
The carvings at 6:18 depict the Hero of Time, and then the splitting timelines. The one with the Rito is the Hero of Winds, and the one with the Zora is the current Hero.
I remember having a theory/headcanon on Demise's origins. He was originally Hylia's Chosen Hero long ago. But, he grew tired of being a "servant" to the Goddess, and sold his soul to darkness before rising up to become the king of demons. It's why Link has to go through so many trials in Skyward Sword, to prove that he won't go down that same path.
To add to the great plateau mystery, if the temple of time is the birthplace of hyrule, where the first goddess statue was, then what about the forgotten temple? That temple is exactly like the sealed temple in Skyward Sword, it even has the 10,000 year old tree we grew in that game and it has the oldest goddess statue there, so what's going on?
majora's mask has always been one of my favorite games of all time, and those aliens scared the crap outta me. i nearly had a meltdown when i ran into almost the same creature many years later in fallout 76 .-.
Zelda is the only game with drunk party aliens.
Think about it. "They" always target the ranch, always grab the cows which give a special milk implied to be alcoholic and always come before the Festival. They literally come to Termina to get drunk and party.
*r a p e c o n f i r m e d* ?
You turn this fucking game into a whole new story
@Sophia Baltrus they didn't want it to be a sausagefest
@Pit M.R. Wholesome storyline confirmed.
The Festival takes place when the moon and sun are in alignment. Their appearance is probably tied to that celestial event.
Actually I think I can explain Navi's leaving of Link at the end of OoT. Its symbolic of growing up. The Kokiri live in the forest and never age. They also never get lost because they have a Fairy companion to guide them. While Navi is with Link during his adventure he is free to return to his childhood. But at the end, she leaves symbolizing while that he has returned to being in child form, he is no longer a child as he has grown from his adventure and she doesn't need to guide him any more. Link can no longer return to the forest, a place that represents eternal childhood.
He goes looking for Navi in MM, aiming to reclaim his childhood but gets lost in the woods. MM's story focuses on meeting new people and making new friends and parting ways with them. Skullkid's comment about Link being the same kid that taught him the song in the woods and asking to be friends is one example. Skullkid's entire arc is about making friends, thinking the giant's stopped being his friend and left him alone. This mirror's Link and Navi. At the end of MM, Link leaves the forest and rides off in search of new adventure.
I hate that people say "Link is dead" in MM or something similar. Totally missing the true message of the game.
someone give this guy a damn medal. holy shit
I applaud ye. 👏🏻👏🏻
Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever. Whether a parting be forever or merely for a short while... that is up to you. - happy mask salesmen.
Oh my god. So Fairys in Zelda works just like in Fairy Oddparents
And may I add that Link most likely gets married to Zelda after MM, and that's how we get his decedent the hero of Twilight Princess
I like to believe that Demise WAS the chaos that the Goddesses displaced when making the world. Enraged, he took a physical form that was as opposite of the Goddesses as possible. Even going so far as to invert their insignia and craft twisted beings in mockery of their own creations.
Link, the entire game: Stfu navi, just leave me alone
Navi, at the end of the game: *Leaves*
Link: *Pikachu face*
I dont understand how people communicate anymore after reading this
:0
@@nalinshukla5413 its a reference to the meme where pikachu does the :0 face
Guys actually look at this based on the majora’s mask theory link is going through the acceptance of his own death (watch game theory) It would make perfect sense why she would leave with no word it’s because there was nobody there link was only there in spirit she knew he was dead and that’s why she left she was sad it’s actually very upsetting and makes a lot of sense
Doesn that Ghost in Ikana Canyon say that he`s Too Alive or Something like That?
My theory for the origin of Demise:
Maybe Demise WAS the chaos that was Hyrule.
But then, the three goddesses came and created the land itself.
The events of that war where Demise burst from the ground was basically him finally breaking free, pissed cause they dumped a country on him, how rude.
maybe the corpse in botw2 trailer and the source of malice is demise
I've always assumed this was the case. It explains it perfectly. What came to be known as "Demise", was the incarnation of the chaos before Hyrule. He was all of it. Then the goddesses came to the void that was him, and made things that weren't him.
He was no longer all of it. It was no longer chaos. It was now chaos and order.
The more the goddesses created and prospered, the less and less of what he was before he became. Until one day, the chaos had enough order and created an incarnation that could fight the order that was imposing itself onto it. And just like the goddesses in the chaos, the chaos itself created it's own creatures, it walked the land with the surface dwellers too. And when this happened the order that was the piece of land cracked and bled fourth the chaos that came before.
It had come to the land of order to reclaim it as the chaos it rightfully presided.
@@kelseydunlap3158 that corpse is 1000% ganondorf's corpse
Yeah I'd be pissed too
I agree in almost every origins of time story like Greek/Roman gods there is always an ethereal good and one pure evil. Two ends of the scale. A sort of balance of good and evil is a verryyyyy common theme in many many different things
*Thank you* for putting the Aliens as the first theory since you advertised them on the thumbnail, so many other RUclipsrs use the thumbnail to tease people into watching a video, only to watch it all the way through just to see what was advertised...
But you went straight to the point and because of that, I wanted to see what else you had to show!
Mad respect to my man Zeltik 👌😎👍
Such a nice guy.
And he didn't put no stupid arrow or circle in the thumbnail.
GOD that's such a good point like. You think to yourself "well if this is number FIVE, I gotta see what number ONE looks like!" And a GOOD RUclipsr (like Zeltik) delivers.
Just report any false advertising thumbnails its against RUclipss rules for folks to have click-bait thumbnails.
The Navi mystery was short, but damn.
Link ending up in Termina is a result of Link searching for her, but now knowing that his search has probably been for nothing because she's most likely dead is quite depressing.
I genuinely didn't think Majora's Mask could get any darker, but now it is.
I disagree with Zeltik's interpretation on this one. To me, the friend Link was searching for was Skull Kid. It had absolutely nothing to do with Navi.
It has been many years since I played Majora but I remember several references to Skull Kid running away from the lost woods because he thought no one liked him. Majora then latched on to that weakness in Skull Kid's heart.
The resolution of Skull Kid's loneliness is one of the core themes of the game and it doesn't make any sense for the story to be about Navi. I don't think she is mentioned at all within the game.
@@zarabada6125 i agree somewhat but the main reason is indeed because of navi's disappearance. At the very beginning of the game, when you press start, it will tell you link was looking for an old friend. If you listen very closely, from what i remember, you will hear navi's same sound from oot
It also states that it was a friend who helped in link's journey
@@nachtzauberer Skull Kid helped in Link's journey in OoT. You get a heart piece in return for teaching him Saria's song and you get to sell him a mask as part of the happy mask quest.
The end of Majora's mask also reveals that Link, "smells like that fairy kid that taught me that song in the woods."
@@sirei01 It is true, take a look at the end sequence for Majora's Mask. It is in both the original and 3DS versions.
ruclips.net/video/uhivoyveuJA/видео.html
Watch from 3:05.
I'm with you on that it was the Goddesses who created Demise.
What Zelda said in Twilight Princess fits quite well: "Shadow and Light are two sides of the same coin...One cannot exist without the other."
There's a webcomic on Tumblr called A Tale of Two Rulers, that has its own spin on the origins of the characters, and the most recent page is telling the story of Demise and Hylia. You might want to read it.
@@xsanguine8 Already seen it, watched the fan dub of it, really well done and interesting story.
will Zelda odnt no shit ruels of t,mulsvs voe ruel her shti any thing ant thing can dos happen shaod can eix with out light
@@ssjgotenks2009 I am aware this could be a joke.
But you okay there buddy? Having a stroke?
BUT (as far as I understood) shadow and darkness are distinct. Shadow is there the twilli belong to. A realm comparable to hyrule with inhabitans just living their lives as hylians do. Ans as with real Shadows, they Need light to exist, but darkness does not. Darkness is just a lack of light, thus darkness is actually beyond light and shadow. It seems to be that the transformed twilli who followed Zant sre creatures of darkness. The light spirit also referred to them as demons. And I think that ganondorf actzally intented to merge shadow and light together to twillight, both will cause the other to cease, whereupon only darkness would remain, fullfilling the Desire of demise. Ganondorf betrayed zant and the shadowpeople anyway as revealed before the final boss. It seems to be counter intuituv to our common understanding of light afsinst darkness, but i think in the zelda universe, it is rather shadow the counterpart of light and a neccessary part of it , while darkness is opposed to both shadows and light.
I just realized this about Navi, but the Great Deku Tree specifically told Navi to accompany Link on his journey. If the fairies were under the control of the Great Deku Tree then maybe they literally only follow commands and then return to the forest upon completion of those orders. This would offer up a plausible reasoning for Navi's mysterious departure at the end of Ocarina of Time and could even explain why Link went searching for her afterward. Knowing his friend would never be given new instructions, he could have sought to find and help her. Just a thought.
I'm super glad you say Hylian correctly. I'm used to the game grumps saying hillian. Even though they pronounce Hyrule correctly.
ever imagine how wrong it is to say hirule instead of hyrule
I think they do it as an inside joke
Shut up bitch its pronounce hi-lee-in
Gay grumps is whack af
@@dillonyoung5502your mother should have swallowed you
That shrimp in the stone carving looks like it's actually the tail from the zora's head to me. If you look carefully, you can see that it's behind the spear, and not actually impaled on it.
Polly Bonanzas and the fact that it's a three part painting (certain word, I forget what) meaning that there's a good chance it means the first one is the ideal or the cause, middle is something, last one is result/current state/mood
Yeah, that's definitely what it is. Aside from the Rito depiction, the triptych appears to show a scene from Ocarina in Time and Majora's Mask
I agree
Gabe Puratekuta triptych. You learn that from series of unfortunate events?
I'm not sure what you mean by that
Top 10 Zelda mysteries
#1: Why is Wind Waker HD not on the switch yet
because it's the last thing that the wii u has
Also twilight princess HD
@@zapunknown wind waker and twilight on switch would be the absolute dream. I looked on amazon for a game cube and a copy of those 2 games because i had a random hit of nostalgia, and theyre crazy expensive. Easily my 2 favorite zelda games.
I really want a Skyward Sword HD on the Switch ..
Anyone else agree ?
It would be Wind Waker HD Deluxe
I am surprised that you didnt mention that the window that Navi disappears into is, if we go by Twilight Princess (since the OoT Temple of Time and TP Temple of Time seem to be the same), the entrance into the Temple of Light, ''Inner/True'' Temple of Time or even the Sacred Realm.
Diego Pulgar damn, youre right
Navi is a sage?
Sarada Uchiha the forgotten 8th heroine/sage?
I’d like to mention that later in the Child Timeline (Twilight Princess) we find out that the window Navi goes through leads to a dungeon.
And on the topic of Demise’s origin, I like to think that he was just a creature or darkness created to cancel out Hylia, kind of like a cosmic Dark Link.
While watching this video I remembered that the theme song for the "aliens" in Majora's Mask is acctuelly called "Ghost attack" and I have a faint memory of a story regarding a Japanese "ghost" that resemble aliens, so that might be the solution for that mystery.
"Offering often unwanted advice and suggestions"
I died at that lmao.
Me too lol
I feel like it's possible Hylia is also a creation of the Golden Goddesses, and Demise might be a proper natural counterpart, such as a shadow cast by light first appearing in Hyrule.
Also another unexplained mystery, the entirety of the Ikana.
The Hylia/Demise theory makes perfect sense! Kind of like a Jin Jan thing that is going on. I like the Idea.
However for Ikana: I wouldn't look to much into it because I never had the feeling that Termina is supposed to be a "real place" in Zelda. I was always a fan of the "Link is dead" theory but even if you just take everything that is definetely presented in the game, Termina always felt like something like "Wonderland" or "Oz" to me. A mysterious land that only exists as a fantasy. It is like asking were "Koholint Island" in Link's Awakening lies... the answer is nowere because it only exists in a dream. There is no ancient culture that built the Face Shrine.
Until you realise that Nintendo retconned termina to just be another country and you save it cause the moon crashing would destroy hyrule :( which sucks. I prefer the alternate reality theory where links counter part is missing cause it's the fierce deity sealed into the mask.
@@malte1984 Definitely the thought I had. x) I figured it'd make sense in a way.
(MM) I agree with that partially: I enjoyed the "Link is Dead" theory, but there are instances where it doesn't work. As for Termina being a fantasy land akin to that of Oz, yes and no. I love the idea that Termina is something different entirely, but I also sort of detest the comparison to Koholint. When Majora's Mask was released its booklet and in-game text labels it a parallel world, to which yes it can be written as a dream world, but it can also not be. I'd find it incredibly lazy for Nintendo to retcon it as not real (primarily dream world), and from Skull Kid specifically. We have a variety of realms in the Zelda universe such as Lorule, Twilight Realm, and if you really want to add, Dark World.
I understand not having an explanation on a realm's origin is difficult, but it didn't deserve to be dumbed down to "fake/dream world" when there are plenty of ways Nintendo could have written it. We already have the dream world Koholint in the series, why drive away the enigma Termina had to make it yet another twisted Koholint essentially? Especially with such a potent entity like Majora that could very well have had the ability to open pocket dimensions (doesn't mean such are not real, Zeltik even humoured the idea of Demise from an alternate dimension) considering the mask was used for Hexing and torture rituals. Such a thought gives me SCP-106 vibes... If we're going to deem it a fake/dream world by Majora and Skull kid then I would love if they included additional details. Surely other parts of this Unreal Termina could have been created per user/victim of the mask. Hell, I'd be fine with the entirety of Ikana being fabricated based on the details of the Hyrulean Civil War, Shadow Temple, Hyrulean family, and the Sheikah. I just wish we got more out of it. :(
@@himeoftwili Dark World was just the corruption of the Golden Land where the Triforce rests, you only barely see it when Link wakes up as a grown up in OoT, and when all the sages are gathered.
@@xsanguine8 I was thinking of the Dark World from Four Swords where the Moon Pearls are required, actually. Essentially a shadow version of Hyrule.
If there's a botw prequel...
Well at least there's a sequel now :D
And you my friend are right!!!!
THATS THE BIGGEST LOZ MYSTERY
The sequel brings me here lol
Which makes me hopeful that they planned for this sequel some time ago and hopefully won't have to wait forever.
@@G00berella It's gonna use the same map as BoTW, so maybe it'll only take a year or two
Another interesting unexplained mystery I don't see mentioned anywhere: the co-existence of Rito and and Zora in Breath of the Wild. The Rito were explicitly said to be descended from the Zora in Wind Waker; an evolution triggered by the gods themselves to ensure that Hyrule would remain beyond anyone's reach beneath the sea. The Rito's existence depends on the Zora's extinction. So how do they both casually exist in Breath of the Wild ?
I've always belived the Rito in BOTW Are Differemt than the WW ones,while the WW ones are Evolved Zoras,The BOTW ones Are true birds,who happen to have the same name of WW Rito.
mabey some Zora that you never see still existed in Wind Waker!
Don't try to wrap your head around the actions and intentions of supposed goddesses. They could have caused the Zora to come back after WW flood waters magically receded or something.
Breath of the Wild takes place after a Dragon Break, and is a convergence of multiple timelines.
"If we was descended from apes why are there still apes" logic
“Maybe if their was a prequel”
............Nintendo shadow dropping age of calamity
*ULTIMATE FORESHADOWING*
Imagine if hyrule warriors was cannon
*there
I didn't play age of camality but does it explain?
@@TempoKong It is not canon, but it shows how the calamity could have been defeated without the champions dying and link waking up in the shrine of resurrection.
Zeltik videos always have top priority when I see them in my feed
I know right
Saaaaame
One of the very few Zelda RUclipsrs who isn’t cringey and stupid. Keep on keepin on zeltik, you’re a great content maker!
This, and he doesn't distrupt the flow of his videos just to panhandle and beg for likes/subscribers like a certain Dr. started doing, hence why I unsubbed from that channel...
*cough* PBG *cough*
@@mandospiegel8994 Not a Zelda youtuber? he's talking about people like HMK that are cringey as all hell
@@mandospiegel8994 He isn't a "Zelda youtuber". He's just a guy who happens to like Zelda. It's not like he makes videos with discussions and shit.
@@mandospiegel8994 Peebs only does Zelda for November, or as he dubbed it "Zelda Month". Even then I think he's close to ending it considering he's practically covered everything.
First game in the timeline, still has an ancient civilization and random shiekah.
Just because it's the first game in the timeline that doesn't mean there wasn't anything before it.
@@merciless9146
Agreed, hell they can even make a prequel of it..
@@SPARTAcross29 that would be cool but it wouldn't work sense Skyward Sword was the first ever appearence of link in the Zelda universe.
The Supreme Shinies maybe it could be about links parents 🤔
@@morganadamson5466 Nintendo would more likely create a remake for Skyward Sword than an origin story for Skward Sword Link.
When I was a kid playing “Ocarina”, I assumed that Navi left at the end of the game because she’d been promoted to “Great Fairy”. I always imagined a tearful, but happy farewell.😊
In TP the carvings with the rito and Zoras and a child with parents reminds me of botw. Botw had all those races and links father supposedly was a knight/ soldier. Link trained to fight as well as a child according to various diary entries in the dlc. Maybe that carving is a hint to that game.?
Except that TPHD came out way before BoTW so it doesnt hold up. Unless the devs were thinking really far ahead
@@averonisgaming9023 considering twilight princess hd came out in 2016 and breath of the wild came out in 2017 it's extremely possible.
@@rokudamia2767 sometimes i forget how old botw is becausr it doesnt feel old lol
I think the man in the carving (Twilight Princess HD), resembles Ganondorf. Though, that just increases the mysteries surrounding it.
It looked like Darunia, Ganondorf, (child) Link, and (adult) Zelda in the first. Twilight Princess is from the Triumphant Hero Child Timeline, where Ganondorf was stopped, so this makes sense. The second shows Rito, a woman with an urn, and (child) Link. Since Rito only appeared in Wind Waker, from the Triumphant Hero Adult Timeline, it doesn't make much sense for it to show up there except as fanservice. Last one just shows a Zora, Ooccoo, (child) Link, and the same man from the first (Ganondorf).
Reminds me of the scene of Gannondorf in hyrule castle in oot where he's bowing to the king, makes me think that this could be a different king of the gerudo that's not a reincarnation of Ganon, or possibly that after oot Gannondorf is no longer evil after link goes back in time
@@lukemacinnes5124 Even after Link went back in time, Ganondorf was still evil, which is why he was eventually given the death sentence, long before the events of Twilight Princess. The failed execution of Ganondorf are what put the events of Twilight Princess into motion.
@@ShadowSora8491 wasnt meaning that was from oot mostly that the scene was similar and could be based on some other incarnation with similar events
@@lukemacinnes5124 If that's the case, then who would be aware of those alternate events, and why would they be depicted? The plot thickens.
I love the aliens side quest. They should bring that quest back for a future game.
Breath of the Wild almost had an alien invasion quest as DLC before they changed their minds and made The Champion's Ballad instead. Clearly someone on the dev team has a love for this sort of thing, so maybe they'll find a way to work it into the next non-remake.
the thing their based on scares me
and next time they explain it a bit
only a little bit, just enough to spawn more theories
@@gingkobilobae i fear no man but that think, it scares me
WE CAN HAVE A ZELDA GAME IN SPACE
The Great Plateau looks like it was at one point made to fly. The “walls” of the border of the Plateau remind me of a floating castle.
It does somehow look like someone just dropped a random piece of land on top of another piece of land, doesn't it? Almost like it doesn't quite belong...
No way that was intended - but it is a cool thought
Navi disappearing is easy:
*She flew out the window and a bird came and ate her.*
It was the Owl. Imagine his music playing as he kills her.
just like a youtube video lmao
Hey listen!
Hey listen!Hey li-
But why did she fly out the window in the first place
@@thezygardiantrio9434 because her job was done.. link is not a kokiri that keeps his fairy.
At the end of the BOTW 2 teaser trailer, you can see the castle is being lifted out of the ground. Your theory that lands might be swap places makes so much sense! I’m so excited rn
I'm almost certain the woman in the stone carving is Link's mother
Wasn't it said in Ocarina of Time that Link was brought to the Kokiri Forest by his mother, who died upon reaching the meadow and striking a deal with the Great Deku Tree?
Yep. Look her up shes a treehut ( possibly) after padding away in the forest
The king said that according to Legend, the great Plateau was the birthplace of the Kingdom of Hyrule.
I believe that the ruins similar to the Castle Town from OoT IS the same ruins. But over time, they relocated the Castle for unknown purposes.
Maybe Hyrule Castle and Hyrule Castle Town weren't exactly relocated, but rebuilt, due to their destruction at the hands of Ganondorf and his monsters, during the adult timeline in Ocarina of Time.
Im so glad i found this channel a few days ago. It re-ignited my love for the series after years. Even made me go out and buy a Switch for Breath of the Wild
Legend of zelda is a great series. Glad you're back to the series
I like to think that Demise is the Lorulian version of Hylia. Hylia preserves the world and defends the triforce while Demise destroys the world and wants to take the triforce
The "them" side quest is the one moment in Zelda that still terrifies me every time I play through it. That god damn music...
“Really oldschool subscribers”
Way to make me feel old Zeltik
Aaah. Watching BOTW theories from Zeltik before the game was out. Good times.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 I remember that. I've been here ever since Zelda U was announced, thinking, dang this guy has some crazy thinking skills, connecting dots before anyone else.
Thanks mum
The fissure Demise came through could easily be the fissures we travel through in A Link Between Worlds
Osmanika combined with the upside down triforce, it makes too much sense. He had to have been some sort of omnipotent Demigod from Lorule.
Obviously, if Hylia existed in Hyrule, then there must be a counterpart to her in Lorule, right? If the polar opposite of a benevolent goddess isn't a demon king, then I give up.
Demise could possibly be an ancestor to Yuga, since Yuga has dark powers and seems to be Lorule's counterpart to Ganondorf.
Ah, you beat my theory comment to the punch!
I’m a simple person. I see a new Zeltik video, I click. You’re hands down my favorite Zelda youtuber.
Y'know, I just thought that maybe Majora's Mask does support the Navi dying theory. Because he goes looking for a for his friend in the lost woods and instead stumbles upon Termina, a place that in many ways represents the process of going through grief.
"We must work together to protect the ranch!"
*hides in the barn the whole time*
Someone needs to keep the cows calm after all.
I know right? No duh she got abducted, she didn't even fight like she trained for
I wouldn't say the Zora on the last carving has a shrimp impaled on his spear, it might be his fin-thingy that is attached to his head swinging kind of around him. Just my interpretation. :)
It is his tail. In OoT they all have one on their head. The only exceptions to this rule being the Princess and the King ( I think ).
My hypothesis: the mural in TP showcases Link, Zelda and Ganondorf as the child, the woman and the man, and they interact with different races that aren't specific people (so that Goron doesn't have to necessarily be Darunia, for example).
The existence of the Ritos and the Zoras at the same time would highly suggest to me that BotW is a game of the Child timeline. I was already thinking that would be the case bc of the Gerudos. The Child timeline is the only one to both showcase Gerudos as a common race after OoT and having them leave out their thieving ways (Four Swords Adventures is the game that shows them). If the Ritos appeared while the Zoras still exist in the Child timeline too, it'd match BotW even better.
Always interpreted Breath of the Wild as a point in which all timelines end up syncing up with one another, an inevitability that would occur no matter in what ways the timelines diverge. Thus, it falls at the end of ALL the timelines.
The biggest argument against the Child timeline for me is that the Zoras have recorded history of how Princess Ruto helped the Hero and the Princess seal Ganon, after she has awakened as a Sage.
In the Child Timeline, Ganon wasn't sealed and Ruto never needed to become a sage since Ganon was sent to the Twilight Realm before he could execute his plan.
Ruto only becomes a sage in the Downfall and Adult Timeline.
You're hands down my favorite youtuber
Thank you, that means so much ❤
I have another mystery in mind. Who is the "devil" that was mentioned in Majora's Mask?
I thought he was implying it was skull kid. Haven't played mm in a while though so I could be wrong
Hey haven’t played in while can you explain what your referencing too
@@inktears1164 There's a dead evil composer in Ikana Canyon who says that he sold his soul to a devil. I don't remember much about it, but Skull Kid makes sense. That guy was all over the place.
He was the next mask victim maybe? As they contain the souñ of someone, just have to wait till he dies maybe. But still the "devil" in that I wouldn't know srry
Probabbly skull kid, Time seems to flow diffrently from Hyrule to Termina
When link arrives, Skull kid has already fucked up alot of things, depite the short time frame
my theory for the fifth mystery actually kinda makes sense for the entire series. I think the Curse of Demise afflicts the land of Hyrule as well. Causing the land itself to shift and obscure, so no two assaults on the beings of light, the Hylians, is ever quite the same. He pokes and prods at defenses, and plots and schemes just as an eternal hate would, trying to come up with just the right plan at just the right time to completely wipe out all life.
I always thought Navi just went her own way, or went back to the forest to serve a new Kokiri who needs her.
6:08
I THINK that "shrimp" is the fins on his long… head... tail... thing.
Or a fish
I choose to believe that the great plateau was purposefully moved using Sheikah tech and/or some other kind of magic during the 100 years. Possibly as a way to protect the shrine of resurrection from Ganon's evil.
I was thinking along the same lines but with enemies found just outside the Shrine of Resurrection, doesn't seem like that intention was effective. Also interesting to note that the King of Hyrule's ghost lives on the Plateau waiting for Link
Idea for Demise’s origins:
It says that the goddesses *created* Hyrule. This means that before the descended from the Heavens, there was something already there. This means one of two things: either this is how Lorule was created, or this is the place where Demise came from, and where the fissure would have led to: a cruel, uncontrolled, chaotic realm.
I like this idea.
For castle town being on the great plateau, you have to realize how many years it’s been. It has to be hundreds of thousands years old. They likely built a new castle in a different location. If something happened to the castle (like Ganon destroying it) caused them to build a new one.
I heard a theory that Castle Town was swapped with the Korok Forest by either the Great Deku Tree or some other strong magical force in order to hide the Master Sword
Faz muito sentido isso
@@PauloAnnunaki mucho sentido
YEEEAAAAH, Flatwood Monster Reference!!
Thats what i thought they were too
I don't know how likely it is, but the fact that the champions ballad reveals that there is a divine beast under the great plateau might have something to do with its being moved. After all we enter this divine beast as the finale of the dlc but we never actually see which beast it resembles as unlike the other four it remains buried.
I always wondered if there were actually even more divine beasts hidden deep under hyrule buried so far that no one could find them. Maybe there is another massive mechanical beast under the korok forest, I agree that these two areas seem to have been swapped at some point. The shape of the great forest area on the map seems to fit so well with the shape of the great plateau.
Great video Zeltik I always enjoy when you play with the lore and you remain one of the better more consistent zelda youtubers I have encounterd, I'm looking forward to whatever comes next.
+Simon O'Rourke The Divine Beast under the Great plateau looks like some sort of butterfly in my opinion. But the actual Divine Beast here is the bike, no?
The Navi thing came from a scrapped idea. I can't remember if it was the books or just interviews that went over it but it isn't an unsolved mystery. Navi developed a crush on Link and at the end of the adventure, she realizes they can't be together so she leaves.
It’s actually kind of shown in OOT that she might have a crush on Link. I remember some dialogue from her being decidedly c-blocking in nature.
During game development she got jealous of the likes of Ruto and Malon, but that idea never made it to the finished game. I wonder if they kept it as part of the lore anyway though.
@@Thor-Orion ... Like what? O_O
Imagine a developer of Zelda watching these videos.. he must me laughing at us so hard ahahaha
"what a bunch of idiots, we don't know this shit either dude"
"Buncha losers overthinking our game😂😂"
@@FancyTophatDude oldest trick in writing. Set up a mystery and let the reader come up with it
masuda said on his facebook that pokemon team does basically that so i wouldn’t be surprised
@@blairblue6769 pokemon team are the real losers
Why does WW have the inverted triforce on certain houses? More specifically outset island
They're atheists.
Well, the Goddesses DID sort of flood Hyrule. Could be that some people felt REALLY bitter about that
@@Icalasari People making blasphemous symbols out of anger toward the Goddesses would make sense. Maybe after enough generations (the flood was long enough ago that it was seen by many as an old folktale, after all) people forgot the significance of that symbol? (A bit like the fleur-de-lis, which has unclear origins but is found throughout European heraldry even to this day.)
Henry Mclaughlin Plausible. After all, the Fishman constantly tells you about the magical cutlery known as the Triumph Forks.
@@Aladato Wouldn't they be Satanists instead.
I think Atheists would be more the Yigs clan or Sheikah clan because they believe in science and technology more.
Lorule's triforce is just as good and golden as the triforce of Hyrule, it is in no way opposite or evil and if he came from Lorule, then Hyrule would have a similar version too.
Lorule is described as a dark mirror of Hyrule. If Hylia exists in Hyrule, then some kind of opposite should exist in Lorule regardless of the Triforce's goodness or not. And the Triforce in Lorule had to be restored didn't it. Demise would make sense as the opposite of Hylia. There has to be balance after all especially if you have a whole world that is a mirror, there has to be a reflection. The Triforce can be corrupted. It can become it's own opposite. Therefore someone has to exist to be able to corrupt it.
Dev 1: "Dude, I'm going to design an area that is identical to OoT's Castle Town."
Dev 2: "What? Why?"
Dev 1: "Because it's going to mess with people's minds."
Dev 2: "Oooh! Haha! That's awesome. I'm going to do Lon Lon Ranch then."
The navi dissapearing thing alsways made sense to me.
As I always understood it, the fairies are the reason the kokiris don't get lost in the Lost Woods (which explains why link never left before he got accompanied by navi). Which in turn means, navi left, because link is now supposed to live a normal life, in the world he is supposed to grow up in, as a hylian, and not to be a child forever. Which in turn explains him getting lost in MM (no matter if you are a fan of theories of MM or not), because he has no chance to find the kokiri without a fairy.
as for the landmass swap... in the botw 2 trailer we see a quite substantial chunk of land rise out of the ground.
I believe the swap of The Great Plateau and Korok Forest is merely a design choice so people wouldn't use the paraglider and jump into Hyrule Castle right away, since the plateau is way above the rest of the land and the castle itself
Navi: Hey, listen! I have to go now. My planet needs me.
Note: *Navi died on the way back to her home planet*
@Silvertd 159 I think it's a Simpsons reference lol
Zelda has always put gameplay first. I feel like they swapped Plateau and Lost Woods because of proximity to the castle. The castle's imposing nature would draw attention away from the possibility of open exploration after beating the Plateau.
That’s what I was thinking. It’s more of a gameplay thing because it feels like you can go any direction you want if you’re somewhat in the center of the map rather than the very top where all you could go was south.
Child link in the stone carvings looks so fed up
I'd say the origin of Demise is this: after the three goddesses created everything, Din (the Goddess of power) wanted to rule over everything they created. To remain holy, Din probably shed that evil and I'd say that evil became Demise. That's why the triforce of power goes to Ganondorf
My guess with the Great Plateau conundrum would be that it was the Sheikah who swapped the forest and the town. We know that they designed all these shrines and tests for Link, made the Sheikah Slate to map the world and give Link all these abilities. We know they’re still around due to the fact that Kakariko Village is full of them in this time, so it’s quite possible for them to have learned where Zelda placed him in the Shrine, and took it upon themselves to protect him further by moving the location of the shrine to the top of a plateau so that he would be safe while he healed. The fact that the plateau has ruins all around the edges is interesting as well, making it seem possible that perhaps the plateau wasn’t entirely naturally formed, and Zelda would have had a lot of trouble climbing those cliffs to place Link in the Shrine, make it possible that perhaps the Shrine was moved to the Plateau after Zelda put him there. We know that the Sheikah have the ability to use magic, that’s pretty well documented by now. With big enough numbers of them, it seems quite possible that they would be able to move such big chunks of land. Plus, Impa lives in Kakariko, she more thank likely knows the duty passed down through various generations/incarnations of Impas, and given that she couldn’t really do much to protect Zelda while Zelda was stopping Ganon at the castle, I could definitely see the next best option for action being protecting Link while he recovered. Also, swapping the location with the Lost Woods would give Link even more protection, given that anyone who went looking for the Shrine would go to it’s last known location, end up lost in the woods and either get lost forever or get turned away and disoriented. Disguising the Shrine’s former location by hiding it with the Lost Woods is really really clever.
Sweet 👏 always worth the wait. Appreciate your work
The Masked Alien.... Only one out of mystery of Majora’s Mask.
The Aliens thing was sort of explained by the creator. He said it was inspired by the Flatwoods monster attacks that happened in West Virginia. It was sort of a Easter egg.
@PLEASENINTENDONT look up the Flatwoods monster. He even says it in the video.
Well, the plateau mystery has been solved by the champions ballad dlc, it is link's divine beast, but this vid was made before the dlc so it's not your fault
Btw THIS is the kind of content that I want. Along with incarnations rankings (like link's and ganondorf's). Good job, absolutely keep going!
Stone carving (My interpretation):
Panel 1-
Goron & Hylian exchange of culture.
Child “Link” and his Parents(?) meet a Goron and they share their stories of their lives, etc.
Panel 2-
Hylia/Hylian Woman/“Zelda(?)” and “Link(?)” exchange goods/information with Rito Villagers.
“Urn”/Vase of trade/importance is the subject of topic, and culture sharing.
Panel 3-
“Link(?)” and ‘Father’ are enjoying an evening with a fellow Zora on their travels. They are fishing and come upon an Occa/Ocka(?).
Maybe a prediction of botw link of the future as princess zelda is an oracle..
@@W11ngd that would make sense, as botw is the only game with both the rito and zoras, but then what doesnt make sense is the ooccoos, as they dont appear in botw.
@@spazzmaticus9086 yeah, I thought of this too but it was just an idea from the fact that all these tribes creatures evolve when needed thanks to the goddesses. I mean the rito aren't exactly like ww ones and they pretty much look more evolved than before and also these are more bird like than human. I saw a video before this about the rito from botw weren't rito from ww, in conclusion not zoras so idk zoras went through so many phases and there really isn't any sky tribe maybe ooccoos are rito? Idk it's too much for me but I wanna believe botw can fit in all of tp cause I'm into the idea that this is the continuing of the time line, and that's wrong from me... Sorry
Zeltik, I love your transitions from scene to scene. You have found and Excel at a great aesthetic. (:
Maybe demise is the first person to use the triforce, maybe he was just a regular bad dude who became the ultimate evil
Major theory that just popped into my head... Why do weapons break so easily in BOTW? My two answers to this is...
#1. Ganon cursed the land of Hyrule so hard, that even weapons break, so that no-one can fight back upon his return...
#2. Link is so strong that no weapon can withstand the force of his swings (he is, after all, able to wield Daruk's greatsword with ease)...
I feel like the locations in BotW matching locations from other games is more like a series of Easter eggs than any serious secret. BotW's map is ginormous, and a handful of obvious instances of reusing classic, recognizable maps is just something to keep us entertained. I bet there's more than just castle town and outset island if we look!
"They" still terrify me to this day. The music is so creepy. And the anxiety as they get too close to the barn. It's easier to kill them if you play slowed down, but I play normal speed because I just want it to be over
In TP the Temple of Time can be found in the forest near the south of the map. Maybe the change happened even before then. The castle town in BOTW is clearly TP's and it roughly matches up with where OoT's castle town is. Maybe the updated textures in TP HD have something to do with it. Maybe it's trying to tell us the story and we just didn't piece everything together yet. Maybe we're missing something else too.
Or maybe it's just not something that needs explained. Almost every new game has a new map so it's just kind of a random reference. I like to believe not but maybe it's the truth.
Aghhh- I wanna play Zelda super bad now. I'm gonna have to whip out the Wii U and quit being lazy to plug the thing in!
Same man same
wind waker here i come
Try plugging a damn GameCube in.
The Galactic Void you like looking at a shitty picture? Not everyone wants to stare at a little box on their big tv now
Wii U has hdmi scrub
Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda game
@@Valstrax420 😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@Valstrax420 borderlands is my game boy
@@Valstrax420 Majora's mask is my game boy
@@Valstrax420 can't wait to play borderlands 3
I’m glad someone else appreciates that finishing blow against demise as much as I do. That spin with the lightning striking right at the crest of Link’s jump just hits different.
This video is why I subscribed. I watched because I love the lore with the Zelda series, but your content is pure gold. Thank you.
Always found interesting how the Plateau is so out of place, almost like it was lifted and placed all the way there by something bigger
Entertaining stuff. Obviously you have a capture card in your 3DS. You spend a lot of time on the cinematics, which I love. I think you should have had footage of the original Twilight Princess to help with the contrast, though
You don't actually need a capture card to record 3ds gameplay. You can use citra emulator on PC to easily play/record 3ds games. You can also stream your console to a PC with a hacked new 3ds/2ds :)
Man these mysteries are so interesting. I hope BOTW2 helps explain some of this stuff. However, given Zelda's history it will just add to the mysterious nature of hyrule. Amazing, thanks for the video!
I really could listen to and watch your content all day long. And, no matter how much I think I know about whatever you're going to talk about, you ALWAYS show me something I've never even heard of! It's mind-boggling, and appreciated. Keep up the fantastic work on this series and all your other videos!
From what I understand about programming, a lot of these seem like the creators easy way out like "oh nobody will notice" to meet deadlines of game release. But this give them so much character and room for fans to theorize about these minor details that could lead to new ideas for Nintendo
Yee, my first video over coffee. You rock, bro!
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For the Demise theory, what If Demise was the embodiment of the chaos at the beginning of time, and when the goddesses created everything, he was only suppressed, not destroyed, and was dwelling under the surface, idk just my thoughts lol
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I always thought "them" they abducted Romani and replaced her with another one when i was little
One possible explanation for the origin of the Song of Storms could be that Link from the first cycle (where he didn't get the song taught by the guy in the windmill) learned the song from somewhere else, maybe Termina taught the guy in the windmill. 7 years later, the adult Link we play in OoT (another cycle) gets taught the song by the guy in the windmill, before Link would get the information from Termina, and, as we see ingame, travels back in time to just before his version from the prior timeloop would teach the guy in the windmill the song. Instead of the first timeloop-Link teaching the windmill guy the song, our Link that has now learnt the song from the guy in the windmill 7 years later teaches that guy the song.
You're probably right about Navi. Navi,and all fairies, for that matter, are essentially just Hylian-brand Meeseeks.
I love how back in the day we speculated, wheter these carvings had something to do with the story of Zelda "Wii U".
I see a Goron, a Zora, a Rito and a Gerudo, four of the five champions chosen by the royal family.
@@shepherdstar14Yes, but those Champions wouldn't be chosen for thousands of years after the events of TP.
Solibrae it could have been a prophecy
No matter how many times I play Ocarina, I always inevitably shed a tear when Navi flies away T_T
Though a friend of mine told me a theory of hers that made me feel a tiny bit less bad. Navi was a "fairy in training" of sorts, and eventually she became the new (and only) Great Fairy in Twilight Princess. There's no clues anywhere that leads to believe this, but I like the idea.
About the Hyrule Field, isn't it obvious? You said yourself that just the plateau is already bigger than the whole map in Ocarina. With so much new space, there's a lot more land that can be hyrulean fields, it doesn't have to be just one. In fact, almost the whole map in BotW could be called a field.
It would have made more sense if Link (in BoTW) Started in the Lost Woods, Where the new shrine of resurrection would be.
Didn’t Zelda also go all the way to the Lost Woods before trying to stop Calamity Ganon?
I think the lost woods was the original tutorial area. But for some reason Nintendo decided not to.
The carvings at 6:18 depict the Hero of Time, and then the splitting timelines. The one with the Rito is the Hero of Winds, and the one with the Zora is the current Hero.
I think the carvings on the walls in twilight princess are the races giving gifts to link almost like the nativity scene
I remember having a theory/headcanon on Demise's origins. He was originally Hylia's Chosen Hero long ago. But, he grew tired of being a "servant" to the Goddess, and sold his soul to darkness before rising up to become the king of demons. It's why Link has to go through so many trials in Skyward Sword, to prove that he won't go down that same path.
Great Theroy Man
so.... Hyrule's Kratos essentially?
@@gamingchinchilla7323 Yep
Finally, someone agrees with me about "them". Also I have both ocorina of time 3d and Majora's mask 3d.
I remember when you first covered the wall carvings dam that was 3 years ago? shit
To add to the great plateau mystery, if the temple of time is the birthplace of hyrule, where the first goddess statue was, then what about the forgotten temple? That temple is exactly like the sealed temple in Skyward Sword, it even has the 10,000 year old tree we grew in that game and it has the oldest goddess statue there, so what's going on?
majora's mask has always been one of my favorite games of all time, and those aliens scared the crap outta me. i nearly had a meltdown when i ran into almost the same creature many years later in fallout 76 .-.
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