This is Why You Should Always Get a Used Car Inspection!
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- In this video we show you a prime example of why you should always get a used car inspection before handing over your hard earned money.
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Holy cow, I have a pit in my stomach and it isn't even my truck.
Geez, and I was mad at myself for not noticing that the parking brake sticks on my used car purchase. I would have a panic attack if I bought this turd ball truck.
Oh Joe Miller I know!! I feel sorry for that guy😞
@@joes.7536 its not to bad i have sold worse
Yes me too. I had that stomach churning feeling. Like you say it's not even our vehicle! The owner must be sick as a dog
My son bought an '06 F150 last July. I checked that frame for rotting right there. I showed my son where my old '96 rotted out at the rear leaf spring mounting brackets and along the frame. That salesman looked nervous when I was climbing all underneath that truck right there in the lot. His was ok.
$9000 later, you have an $8000 vehicle!
You forgot about buying it to begin with.
Vekurus lol I put like 6,000 into my bronco and is prob worth 5,000 just because it’s rust free, and runs great but I did most the work myself that prob would have turned into 10,000 at least because I had to put a new( used) E4od in it
Truck is only worth about three to $4000 to begin with
more like a used truck infection definitely totaled
Not $8000 with 212,000 miles!
My 1995 Mercedes Benz has zero rust because the oil leaks takes care of that
😂😂😂
BENZ GANG!!! 296k in she’s still a dream
planned obsolescence? planned maintenance!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂AINT it the truth
Lmaoooo 😂😂😂
Well, the owner said he wanted a "work" truck- and he got his wish- one that needs A LOT of WORK!!!!! Just put a for sale sign on it pronto!
hilarious !
Dude, just take this to the junkyard... and get a NEW truck
You don't put expensive parts on a truck like this, even if it's jusy a sign. It'd be worth more than the truck.
With a deteriorated frame, I would just scrap it
The truck is scrap worthy nothing more .
Those fender flares are covering up rust. Guarantee that.
yup...rust over rear wheels guaranteed..probably eaten right thru..
Cab corners are probably rusting below the paint as well.
They don't cover it completely, just look up in the fender wells and the signs are right there.
Ed Mee when you are a dealer they cover up the rust enough so some sucker will buy it. That’s their purpose
yep especially Silverado's like mine
I'm almost moved to tears watching this......Whomever unloaded that truck on the customer GOT'EM........smh
if the dude sold this truck not knowing about the rust, that's one thing.. but if he did know then he's a piece of shit.
That truck needs to be taken off the road. Buyer Beware. Many used cars have issues, otherwise they wouldn’t be for sale. This truck is not worth fixing.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Sometimes they are on sale because mechanics warn them about stuff they don't need in the near future and they get scared and sell them. If you will buy a car without mechanic check up then you must know how to work on your own car and as long as the engine and transmission are fine, the rest you can fix it yourself.
May16Joe True, but they should be verifying themselves or by a 2nd mechanic. Most people that drive older cars are somewhat mechanically inclined. If they are getting rid of it, you don’t want it. Dealers are famous for ripping people off and I think most people know it.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q You make a good point . People who have had an older vehicle for years and suddenly want to get rid of it know something is going on with it.
It's a 20mph farm truck...unregistered, of course
Tell me what Ford stock is o
Being an ex Ford tech of 15 years I can tell you with 100% certainty that he is absolutely correct about the inspection process. Max profit all the way! Sorry for this guys luck. That's a bad one!
I would find it hard to believe that truck would be sold at any new car dealership. Maybe from a local used car dealer or owner or at auction.
That's why they're called $tealerships.
Brian - very interesting and informative. It would be fun to see a video of a full pre-purchase inspection next time one comes your way. This is so important to protect one's investment in a vehicle. How much time do you charge for such an inspection?
Not to mention getting this un safe garbage off the road . And possibly savings lives.
as Scotty would say, this thing is a money pit, should have bought a Toyota
Col.henchicken Vanpopbutton Not the ones I have ever had.
Check out his video yesterday. Says Ford is better than Toyota for a full size truck, since they have been building them for so long. Go figure.
Didn't want to look like a TOOL driving around town in a turdra
@Jack McAvoy Yeah, because basic maintenance really prevents a chassis rusting out - not. Where I live you need a roadworthy certificate to transfer vehicle ownership. One look at the front door and guard should alert to the POS being fit only for the tip. Bad ball joint, broken spring, leaking axle seal, no handbrake, and rusted chassis are all fails. The chassis rust means vehicle write off, no repair possibility.
Scotty is a senile old man
How about showing us the owners face when you show him... )))
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Ahh man ! What! Well I can't afford none of that, much less all of it. Well, I'm stuck now, Hell I'll just drive it until it literally falls in two. Heck with how unsafe it is.
You do not want to see a grown man cry then faint
At least your not in a mandatory inspection state enjoy it while it lasts
@@RobertMememe 🤣😔
"Get a mechanic that you trust"...
I might as well stop watching after he said this. I can't find one.
At this point with this many issues, a monkey can tell you "DON'T BUY THIS TRUCK!"
Same. they are 99% garbage, I swear.
That truck has had a hard life, they hit the lottery with basically every known issue these trucks have :) . Gonna take a wild guess that fluid changes weren't consistent or often either..... that broken spring ewwwww
Wont even pass inspection in many states with the broken frame. Some states don't allow repair of that. It is scrap.
@@alb12345672 That's how it is in PA where I live. That truck would be condemned. Here, if a dealer sold that truck with a current inspection, you could take them to court and they would be legally required to take it back and destroy it.
@@Vercus100 Yeah, and for good cause. Imagine loading the bed up or towing to capacity at 70MPH on the Turnpike and it cracks in two? Not good!
Yeah this truck is scrap.
@@emotionz3 Boxed frames are a problem too. Thinner metal and they are enclosed. Salt is trapped in there and reactivates with every rain. Car wash does little for it. C channels fare somewhat better.
Can you tell us what happened after? What did the owner say?
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH-----------------------------------------------------------------THUD! (new owner fainting)
I'd turn around and sell it for $1000-2000 less than what I paid just to be rid of it. Not worth spending any money on this thing. Find one that is better maintained even if you have to pay more.
Mod MINI or since he just bought it bring it straight back to dealer depending on lemon law in that state the frame makes in unsafe unfit to drive could get money back or trade for different truck
@@george6264 There is no "lemon law" on used vehicles. There may be a few states that have some mandatory return time period, however, all dealers vehicles must display the Fed condition of sale sheet in the window. My guess it was sold "as is" no warranty. The guy is SOL on this one.
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Even someone with very little automotive knowledge would just have to slide underneath this truck to see it is no bueno.
Phil Jerome 500 dollars obo truck
They clearly bought it without checking it out
Some people health isn’t good enough back etc to be able to roll under it and it could be in a snowy area or muddy and they take the sellers word for it for some reason it feels reassuring when you buy from a dealer because you think it maybe more expensive but there held to higher standard but not always the case
The 1 dislike must have been the owner of the truck!! Lol great video!!!
That dude got Fvcked over big time.
@@webrad98 hope he only paid $200 for it
@@JasonW.
I don't think so.. I bet it's a lot more. I hope he can weld and has a lift.
@@DontCryAboutIt
It should be both...That Sleazy Slimy Car lot needs to be reported.
"Especially family and friends..."
You AREN'T joking. I ended up having to help break it to a woman that the Land Rover her relative sold her was basically garbage. Worn out bearings, varnish in the valvetrain looked like oil hadn't been changed in WAY too long. Vacuum leaks. (Including a faulty brake booster.) "Three-amigos" on the ABS/traction control, leaking tranmission fluid, brakes were shot, suspension rusted, it took so much work (fixed amigos, rolled in new bearings, suspension, brakes, etc.) before we were even willing to sign off on it explaining to the next owner it would need 'further work'.
And this is what "family" will do to each other.
Great video, as usual!
That frame alone is an inspection failure in MA! Nice video Brian!
NY may actually pass that. It must be rusted at a suspension attachment point, very specific language. Beyond that it has to drive in, not cracked in 1/2.
Would definitely fail for the spring, and the parking brake because the grease will not allow it to work.
Don't think the patch repair he suggests would even pass!...Mass is getting crazy...lived in FLA where they don't even require inspections, now that's CRAZY!
@@ftby59mikeD Welds become discretionary. You may need to goto a few places. Rightly so, they have no idea who did the work and their skill. Big Rigs though are welded all the time. There is a guy here that specializes in that, but those have a different kind of inspection.
back into the barn, pull that bed, weld that frame up boy!
MA will fail you if you have too many farts in your drivers seat. I live in MA too. The new inspection process is a money grab and corruption scheme to push people into buying overpriced new cars.
Poor guy, he just bought a garbage out of his hard earned money.
Maybe next time he'll at least get under the truck and look.
Wow....what a eye opener. The truck isn’t worth all the repairs. Thanks for sharing the video.
Brian I have watch several of your videos man you are one hell of a mechanic dude you do an awesome job with these videos
It even has a missing fuel filter! 😉😁😁
Ah you caught that!
I saw it's not there, but I thought ford eliminated it, like GM did on their trucks in 2004
Good catch. You've spent time under a Ford!
@@pashafixesthings why did manufacturers eliminate the fuel filter? Is that just for the $120 fuel system cleaning?
Let Brian find out if this guy is well off (or not)...we can get him a go fund me account.
Oh by the way did the owner survive the heart attack his new truck must have caused him?
Buy your used cars in Arizona... No rust.
That is not necessarily true. Its super dry here in Colorado yet a lot of the 2-3 year old used cars are bought at auction from the north east, midwest and even Canada. The one positive things about CarFax is you will see where the car was first sold.
@@Motomadman43 this guy is in the Midwest where they use salt on the roads. They're are other places that cars don't rust that I am aware of...
Texas as long as it wasn't in a flood...
You are exactly right! This is the main reason I use CarFax. We drove 6 hours to Northern Mississippi one time to look at a 2005 Ford Ranger thinking that it would be completely rust free and it turns out that the truck was actually shipped in from Massachusetts and it was rusted all to hell.
I have a 2009 Focus that has seen it's weight in Michigan road salt. I was just under it doing an oil change and it looks stellar for the age-very little surface rust. It's the idiots that go all Winter without washing them that end up looking like this!
you are a brave man walking under that thing.. I would be shittin bricks that the frame would collapse with it being that rotted and all the weight being put on them points from the lift.
It actually looks like there's a massive and uneven panel gap between the cab and the bed, which reminded me of issues with Nissan pickups, where the frame rots and can literally snap the vehicle in half! There's a channel called West Yorkshire Engines, based in the UK, where that happened on their lift!
Looks like the lift points are mostly free of rust... if it drove in, it probably won't snap. But yeah, put that thing on the ground and recommend the owner to sell it off and find a better truck.
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I guess it’s tough being the honest person but it is the right thing to do. I could never sell a vehicle with known problems without either getting them fixed first or being up front about them. It’s a shame that people like us are few and far in between
@@roninkraut6873 I agree with you on that shit lol 😂
It's clean, CPO,. Ship it!
This happened to me. I thought going to a big dealer with the Jeep name on it I was safe, they said they did a "safety inspection" on it. Turns out they are a usual shady dealer hiding behind the big name brand somehow. Needed front axel, steering pump, and front drive shaft. How that truck is not totalled is beyond me.
Great video and great advice. Coming from someone who inspects used cars for a living - i can definitely attest to the importance of having someone/somewhere you can trust. There is a lot of dishonesty in the used car business that tries to get passed off to my work place, i've seen every trick in the book when it comes to that. and I guarantee you they do not get re-sold. Having someone you can trust to look at a vehicle before you buy it is a must. You want that investment to last. And never forget - if it seems like its too good to be true - it usually is!
However, i must say - the biggest offender i see is "lack of maintenance" I see cars with 100-120k on them and they are absolutely neglected inside and out. What would otherwise be a perfectly good car - needing thousands of dollars of work because the owners just ran them into the ground or didnt follow the maintenance schedule (pay me now, or pay me later!)
I feel sorry for your customer and the fact that he is going to be devastated when he finds out the truck he just bought - just bought him. The frame issue alone is scary. I hope he is able to recover from his loss and i'm sure he has definitely learned a life-lesson.
Quick fix, take whatever carmax offers in cash
As soon as you see f'ed up tires on a vehicle, it's a good indication you're going to run into other stuff...
WOTStang I just learned a life lesson...from this video. I have a 2002 F150 that grew up in MN and tomorrow I'm going to crawl under it and have a look at the frame. I have had that truck for about 5 years and have about 155k. First thing I did when I bought it at 103k was fluids front to rear tranny included. Haven't had anybody say anything about the frame but I'm kinda spooked now. Fersur to look under there tomorrow.
Yep, I used my basic knowledge to the best of my abilities when I bought a new car a couple of weeks ago. I had a trusted garage check it over, and do a full service. I'm now having the timing belt changed, as there is no paperwork for it. A few hundred UK £ invested now, hopefully to ensure an engine that won't go boom a few months later! Invest a little to save a lot kinda thing.
Mechanical items will degrade over time, but if you stick to regular maintenance you will have a reliable vehicle more often than not: or you can be stingey, hold back on maintenance and suffer abnormal, excessive damage later on.
I think a lot of people now almost see cars as disposable items, drive them in to the ground with no maintenance, then sell or scrap them, which is a real shame.
"Find a mechanic you trust"...wow...Wish there was one. We have about 12 to 15 independent garages by me (within about 15 miles)...ALL have horrible reputations...I don't trust dealerships (and yea, I work for a car company, but the dealership service area is 'technically' not part of the dealership, and are a "for profit" entity). We have a quite a few "chain" places that do work as well, but I don't trust those either (I've had bad luck at 2 of them, and the others have horrible reputations for not doing the work correctly).
When we were selling my old Fusion (2006) to our friends I told them "WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CAR INSPECTED" as it had 200k miles on it, and nothing done except regular service. They agreed. I told them, they should hear that it needed plugs (on a V6, that's an $800 job), a new alternator (it was starting to get iffy as I was having some charging issues, but it was a $1000+ job because you have to tear half the car apart to get to it), and more than likely a new battery (as it was 3-1/2 years old). I saw some tire wear that pointed to a ball joint (no big after 200K miles and driving on pot hole laden Michigan roads), it would also need tires since those tires had 50K miles on them.
Anyway...the report for the "reputable" mechanic. EVERYTHING IS PERFECT....I told my friends he was full of it. He spent 30 minutes with the car and came back with "perfect". Fast forward 8 months...Plugs, 2 Coils, Alternator, Ball Joint, Battery, EGR valve (that wasn't changed when they did the plugs, so another $800!!!!), and a couple other things. I felt HORRIBLE...and I still do. I KNEW these things, and I told them these things were on the edge...but they believed the "reputable" mechanic...what's worse? That "reputable" mechanic is a master mechanic, and is a family member. They still think he didn't steer them wrong. :(
Love your work, you seem to be one of the most conscientious mechanics out there. You, Eric The Car Guy, Humble Mechanic, and a couple others out there give me hope for the trade, but far too many of these guys are out to make as much money as they can, even if that means screwing the customers. :(
WreckDiver99 If you feel bad you could always give them some of their money back.
@ Jerry - he was honest and they chose not to listen, I don't think the OP has anything to apologise for, or reason to compensate the new owners. He was decent enough to provide them with a realistic view of the state of the vehicle, and the new owners chose to effectively ignore him.
GMak81 I agree. But he said he felt bad. So I gave a solution. I didn't say he should feel bad.
Hey Jerry, that's cool bud, we got our wires slightly crossed in a typical internet forum manner. You're cool, I'm cool, it's cool. And yes that is true, if he felt bad he could have given them some dough. Have a good day mate, cheers.
GMak81 wires slightly crossed talking about cars. Lol
Mechanic you trust. Hahahahhaha
I herd of em.
Just never seen one before
I trust youMr. Makuloco,....
I have one now and I've had one in the past. Years ago my mechanic told me that my car wasn't worth making the repairs. He said he would if I wanted, but I'd be putting too much money into it. Rare, I know!
Tiffany Lane went to a closer guy that wasn’t my usual tech. He didn’t wanna touch my car said the fix will be more than it’s worth and it’s just gonna keep costing us. Went back to our usual guy and he took care of us and we are still driving it today. The fixes weren’t cheap but the cost of replacing the car would be the same or more than just fixing the car and having no payments.
Trust no one. Not even yourself
lol
A pre-purchase inspection is a no brainer. At the least you'll almost definitely be able to use the results to bargain and save more than you spent on the inspection. At the worst you can walk away.
If I lived up north I think I'd take a trip down south to buy a used car.
@johnathan j purchaser. If you don't end up buying the car it's most likely going to be because of something found in the inspection so money well spent.
And if the mechanic finds literally nothing wrong take it somewhere else. There's always at least minor issues to report.
Texas no rust baby
GREAT VIDEO! I've seen a couple times where, "the engine looks so new" is all it takes to start talking purchase price. "What's a P1000? But the engine light isn't even on!"......yyyyyeah.
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Take that thing to Pull-A-Part and be done with it.
The truck needs $10,000 worth of repairs. The cost of an oil change of a Mercedes!
If the truck had no rust on the bottom it MIGHT be worth salvaging if you paid $500 for it.... put the 10 grand in and you have a decent truck - considering a new one is 40K
But I wouldn't touch this one.
The Mercedes Dealership oil change costs about $315.
100% on point! On 4-8-21 I test drove a Fusion from a used car dealer and took it to a reputable auto service shop for a pre-purchase inspection. Auto shops were I live will charge only $20.00 for what they consider to be a pre-purchase inspection; emissions testing and a visual look over. I requested a fuller inspection of specific components. I was informed ahead of time that I would be billed the shop's hourly labor rate for the inspection I wanted. The $95 I paid after tax for that deeper inspection is money well spent. I was saved from wasting $6,000 - $8,000 on a car that needs possibly $5,000 in repairs.
Worn drive belt and tensioner showing signs of improper tension on belt, a sunroof that will went but not retract at all, dark brown color transmission fluid (pink or red is ideal), signs of dry rot on all tires, front tires have severe feathering and edge wear, vehicle pulls left (I noticed that myself as soon as I began driving it.), alignment off, one rear tire has a gouge in the sidewall, headlamp assemblies completely fogged (I could not even tell if the headlights were working.), leaking valve cover gaskets, possibly the timing belt as well, bottom and sides of engine coated in oil, broken passenger side engine mount, front tires pressure sensors not reading, spark plugs need to be replaced, rodent evidence under intake manifold with the possibility of wiring damage underneath the manifold, and stored codes although the check engine light was not on (Engine P0480-00, Transmission P0480-00, Tire Pressure Sensor Fault B2872, Right Front Seat Heater B1032-14, and Left Front Seat Heater B1030-14.) The dealers feigned ignorance when I showed them the report. I am not even upset. Their shady dealings are between then and God!
And oh, I almost forgot! This car just "passed" inspection in December 2020 when inspected by a dealership's service department before being auctioned off. My mechanic says the car would pass the emission test at this time but possibly would not pass the state safety inspection due to the broken engine mount, the tires, and the headlamps.
Folks, do yourselves a favor and spend the money on a real pre-purchase inspection at a qualified and honest mechanic who will straight up advise you against buying what will certainly become a headache and a money pit. I so appreciate the mechanic who conducted my pre-purchase inspection. Now back to the drawing board searching for another car.
Ford Fusion 2008 just broke down.
Had it for 3years on the nose.
Never any start up problems but now won't start. Luckily I didn't spend 6K but way less anyway might be time to say goodbye to it.
Ball joints are fine -- he just wanted that stanced-life. CAMBER FOR DAYZ, YO!!!
Never fall in love with a car when looking to buy.
I told my nephews son when he became the Automobiling age , " falling in love with a car you want to buy is like falling in love with the hookers you see on a street corner , your in for a lot of disappointment
Great video
Unfortunately once you buy and hand the money over, it's over. It's a 13 year old vehicle. 98% of uses car lots will tell him to leave or they'll call the police if he tries to get his money back. The other 2% would offer to let him trade it back in on another truck that's double priced and only give him pennies on the dollar for trade in.
I hope he got this truck cheap, like $2,000, but I'm sure it was $5,500 or some crazy price.
The truck easily needs $10,000 worth of work.
I'm glad I live here in Arkansas where 40 year old cars still look brand new underneath.
This is just sad. I'd bet you $100 that the previous owner was made aware of these issues as he tried to trade it in and saw and agreed with the rust and such and their for accepted scrap yard trade in value, $1,000 and then the car lot didn't even do one maintenance item on the truck or take it in to a shop to have anything done and documented on it, and then quickly pulled the truck around and slapped $6999 on the windshield and probably took $5,500 cash for it. It's income tax time and car lots are goimg wild right now taking people's tax $$$ for over priced garbage bc people don't look at the vehicle because it's "free" money anyway.
Sad and this should be illegal.
Now if the used car lot disclosed all these issues to the buyer in the buyer still bought the truck for a fair market Price with all these problems then the deal was fair.
$2000? I hope it was less than $1000.... Most of this would have been found with a flashlight and a code reader....
I agree and you stated it with a well written post.
People don't get rid of a vehicle because they run too well... They get rid of a vehicle while they can still make it to anywhere they get rid of it..
Also used car dealers tend to keep their junk at the back, so they can boost them to bring them around to the front for the unsuspecting customers...
Syndicated Satellite you haven’t met my wife she finds something shiny and newer than hers and a perfectly good vehicle gets traded in almost every year lol
@@Snookchaser007 Those vehicles are kept by the dealer for their friends, family or themselves... The other 99.9% of used vehicles are rolling junk...
I work at a dealership, even our used videos they only "inspect" safety features such as brakes, and steering....we've sold vehicles with transmission leaks, oil leaks, etc..
2:24 Look at the gap between the bed and cab, does the rear normally sag that much on the lift?
With that much frame rot, it doesn't surprise me, but no thats not normal. I bet when it is on it's wheels, it is the other way, the bed physically contacting the cab.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
Nope. As soon as I saw that I knew the frame was junk.
Wow! Really opened my eyes. I'm considering buying an older truck here in Indiana. Now I may look around for a rust free southern vehicle. And then have it inspected, too. Some things can be repaired, but that rust scares the heck out of me.😕
I hate to see something like this...Thanks...
Even if you got it for free, it still isn't worth fixing!
It's good for parts
@@dewaynemaiden yes
Poor maintenance and abusive driving habits can cause plenty of damage, but in the rustbelt, time is just as large a threat. Most vehicles in my neck of the woods have rust-through issues within 8 years. Guaranteed after 10 +. Time + salt does irreversible damage.
Sad when you consider how much $ you lose.
My 09 Focus is solid with very little rust...Michigan car. Just gotta wash them!
Yeah but if you wash it off and use a good protector then it won't rust anymore...
Well it's a lot better than it was back in the 70's though. In two years you'd be looking at door skins and bumper supports here in Cleveland. Of course cars were only $3-$4,000 lol
I was really stressed and having a bad week.
Then I watched this.
I won't complain anymore.
I'm keeping this to make a list of all the items you saw. I've never done a thorough inspection on a used vehicle. What you saw is the "Tip of the iceberg!" Who knows what "intermittents" are hiding! Great Video Brian!
Mike Chiodetti ..Dang I fell sorry for you folks! He said the rear break job was $350. Heck here in Ga it’s about &120 for both wheels. Fronts about the same on my Ram 1500 4x4...
The truck is near then end of the designed service life. Everything come to an end eventually
The concept of "designed service life" is the problem theses days. They intentionally build things with a short service life knowing full well things will go bad at the end of warranty. And then they have the nerve to suggest their product is better or of higher quality than something built in China, Korea, or elsewhere because it was built in the USA. Its total bunk! I was floored when at a social gathering in the late 1990's, a Ford engineer told me that they build their vehicles to last 36 months without major problems. I questioned him to be certain i understood him. Bottom line was, they build vehicles to last 36 months. After that, major systems are expected to fail. GM and Chrysler are no different. I guess building things that go to the junk yard in five years is their idea of helping preserve planet Earth too.
this truck was also in a terrible area, frame rails don't look like that where I live.
This has always been a thing. The 60’s Mustangs were only designed to be around for 5 years or so. It’s not a new concept
12-13 year old truck already done for that’s sad really
buying used is a crap shoot, an inspection is certainly wise if you know nothing about cars. This rig should be pulled from the road and salvaged, although not much salvage on that rust bucket. I wouldn't let it out of my shop without the owner signing a slip showing the danger of that frame.
Yup we are going to make them sign a release.
Absolutely. When I was in auto service, we would have people sign. I had a lot of latitude when I was a service writer, and my policy was to absorb the cost of inspection when it was this bad. Build some goodwill out of a terrible situation for the customer.
Wow, that got expensive very fast!
Many issues with that truck. Very important to inspect used car before buying.
I started watching this just thinking "yea, well all used cars need some kind of work - they are used afterall". I finished this video really surprised how much this particular car neeeds.
Man you are throwing out full-blown dealer prices I am a 6G certified welder if I charge somebody somebody $1,000 to fix both sides of that frame I couldn't sleep at night your pricing is astronomical
But! But! The top side looks so good! Guess that's why ya see some good looking trucks in the junkyard.
Do what the other guy did. Trade it at a Ford dealership. The longest inspection I've ever gotten was a 30-second walk around in the lot. Sorry, but make it the next guy's problem.
Oh man... I hope you gave that person a *Can we still be friends* card after you broke his or her heart!
A lot closer to $10K than $5K, based on the numbers your threw out. The guy who bought this truck got royally screwed. Food for thought indeed.
If your buying a 04-08 f150 check for water leaks into the cab!!!!!! Lift up the passenger floormats and check for wetness. You'll thank me later.
212,000 miles, I’d run the other way.
CarFax is also self-reportingonly so means virtually nothing. If someone hands you a CarFax report as proof that the car is good, walk away as they are trying to scam you.
'you don't get that true coat..." - Jerry Lundegaard
Ha ha ha!😀
Some people will say it's government overreach but personally I think that every state should have a vehicle inspection process so cars like this stay off the road.
This is the reason I advertise used car inspection on my website. I get that all the time.
I bought 2005 at auction for 7k and it was in better shape than this 😂 🙄🤦🏻♂️
I hope this will inspire folks in the rust belt to research Krown Rustproofing. For the record, I have no financial interest in the company. I pay for the yearly application on my car like any other consumer.
*cough* *cough*
this one is so bad just running a scan tool over it would have told you not to buy it the idle noises and timing issues take some skill to detect but come on ,have a scan tool run on it you would know the cats are bad then, anybody could inspect for major rust the ball joints are another easy one to see with that tire wear although that alone is not a deal breaker no effort taken when he bought that truck hope he only paid like $1500 for it tops
Wow, I am amazed Ford did not use any coatings on that frame to prevent
a rust problem as seen with this vehicle. Makes me wonder how many of these trucks are hurtling
down the highway with bad frames like this one. Scary. All states should have
a required vehicle inspection that checks for dangerous stuff like bad ball joints,
rotten frames and the like. New York does, but in Florida they have no vehicle
inspections and you would not believe the junk hurtling down the highways in Florida.
Ok, ball joints are one thing; all vehicles need tires one day or another. I draw the line at the rusted out frame. (‼️)
Brain knows best, the best advice all you fellow youtubers want is listen to Brian, this guy knows what to look for and what to diagnose, these are free tips on all vehicles, make yourself a checklist when doing a purchase, bring it to a shop spend that $280 inspection, ask the mechanic or owner if he can follow along on what he looks for and bring your own checklist, search for codes or pending codes, test your engine, electrical, suspension, check all your fluids if they have been changed (if they are original owner), be brief and ask what it was used for prior to the sale, spend that $280-$380 on full front to back inspection, this truck was a prime example how much it will go up, sure it could of been just bad brakes and suspension, and catalytic converters done, but in most cases watch out for the "UNKNOWN" this truck he demonstrated needs over $8500+ in work major work being structure of the truck frame. Pay the inspection fee and save yourself a headache this goes not only for Ford, all brands and makes and models (especially in salty areas that have vehicles for sale)
i always follow his videos from his oldest videos, great tips, tricks and troubleshoot short cuts etc i get from him.
Great Job Brian
Yikes!!! If I saw that of a customer I would Nail it Not Road Worthy Due to the frame Being that bad.
Love your videos,, still not sure why I drive a 5.4. F 150 though (lol)
I'm in the same boat. Mine has low mileage 05 w 103k.
Watching and learning about how it's going to fail makes me want to sell it.
Used pick-up trucks are stupid overpriced. You might as well just buy a brand new one.
It is now a C channel frame, no big deal 😂
Sorta thought the same but with horror still on the back of my mind after staring at all that ROT.😬
I’m a die hard ford guy but man I hate f150s. They just seem like they don’t last and are built very poorly. And for the cost of what they go for new I’d much rather have a 250 or 350
Those price quotes are astronomical!
Those prices are the norm or cheaper than most repair shops but the frame repair quotes are outrageous those were from a local body shop not me.
Agreed. Figuring maybe $75 for a piece of 1/4" steel plate (probably overkill) and two hours of cleaning and welding, that $2,000 comes out to over $950 per hour for labor. Seems a tad steep.
I traded in a year old Corolla with $9400 in rear end damage repairs. The trunk leaked during the first heavy rain after I got it back and I decided I was not going to deal with a leaky car. The Carfax simply stated 'vehicle serviced' for its stint in the body shop.
167 used car salesmen watched this video.
Now you know why it was up for sale, the only reason someone sells a vehicle is something is wrong with it.
I’m not even going to look under my ‘99, I’m just going to call the scrap guy now!
It goes without saying. If you're interested in a car and the Dealer or used car lot will not allow you to have the car inspected, RUN AWAY!!!
I OWN A 2007 F150 XLT. LOVE THE TRUCK. NOT THE TICKING SOUND BUT I LOVE THE SMOOTH RIDE AND SMOOTH COMFORTABLE SEATS
have the same truck man love it to death
@@necroodin YEA MAN ME TOO I LOVE IT. SUPER CREW IS VERY SPACIOUS. LOVE THE COMFORT. SUSPENSION RIDE VERY SMOOTH EVEN ON DIRT ROCKY ROADS. UNLIKE THE CHEVY SO STIFF
@@muskokamike127i got a camphaser replacement, vct, and timing chain and guides but my ticking is the lifters. But even with the replacment i still get the start uo rattle every morning.
@@muskokamike127 really?? I did not know that!! Thnks for the info. Ima have to check into that. Good thing i still have the extended warranty
@James Owsley could be a leaking exhaust manifold... Tick goes away as manifold warms up. Common issue.
Damn , the frame is crumbling like a bag of potato chips . The dealer should be prosecuted for attempted manslaughter . Rusted frame + highway collision = dead bodies everywhere.
Why? It's up to the buyer to have it checked out
Dont expect a dealership to give an honest inspection, especially ford!
he said he used to work for Ford, I question the quotes he's giving, is that for a dealership or an independent shop doing the work ? Also I'd want to see the cost of parts. I'd also compression check the engine. you could do all that work to make the truck roadworthy only to have the engine or transmission fail later on.
@@cat-lw6kq I think his point is if you don't do a used car inspection before purchase it could be very costly. He said he's not even doing a used car inspection but looking at it and ran codes.
Now retired, I'm a former GM service tech (ASE & GM Master Certifications) who regularly performed inspections of vehicles traded in and bought at local auctions---to go to the used car lot as an "inspected used car" or the treasured "GM Certified Used Car", all the failed/declined units went to the wholesale lot for quick disposal. We could perform very 'minor' repairs and full sets of tires, providing there were no other problems. Any frame damage, engine or trans leaks, major structural damage or repaint automatically failed the unit.
CAVEAT (BUYER BEWARE) ---no dealership will allow for any teardown to determine internal condition of parts, filters or fluids (example: sludge buildup in the valve train, heads, oil/trans pans) SO, IF YOU BUY THIS CERTIFIED USED CAR, and 4k miles later your lower bearings start knocking you probably won't get assistance after "you" authorize the "tear down to inspect/ determine cause of failure, example: if they find sludge built up. Before you buy any extended warranty make damn sure you understand the TOC, commonly called the "terms & conditions of the contract". The owners manuals will list all of the manufacturer's maintenance intervals/requirements and rest assured that when push-comes-to-shove, VERIFIABLE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING MAINTENANCE PERFORMED AS REQUIRED (since new or the last factory authorized repair) will be the saving grace for you and your wallet.
Nicely done, parts truck now.
I feel for your customer, it to me appears as though the previous owner had a boat he/she may of towed around and has salt water damage, not everyone understands how salt water can do catastrophic damage to their truck over time.
May of? May have😉
5:49 "not good, not structurally sound at all" while proceeding to punch holes while underneath a 2 ton truck.
It would take a heavy load in the bed and a bumpy road to split this frame.
The phrase "ridden hard and put away wet" comes to mind!
WOW
I think this junk truck should not be on high stand. The main structure is weak. Dangerous bro
Sad that vehicles rust so bad in that part of the country. Can they not come up with something besides salt? How do people afford to buy a car so often because of rust.
Very good video. Been there done that. A couple years ago I purchased a 2006 F150 from a Chrysler dealer's used lot. Within a couple days it started to knock really bad, missfire, and run ragged. I took it back to see if they could offer me any assistance. They said it needed a timing chain set along with new plugs and several other items to the tune of over $5000. I asked if I could trade it in on another vehicle. I was quickly told that they didn't want that truck back at any trade value. I took the truck to a Ford dealer and they gave me $3000 scrap value towards a new one. I should have bought new in the first place.
Johnny Umphress that’s crazy. They sold it to you knowing it was crap and wouldn’t take it back
Armando Sturzenegger I would assume they had an “as is” warranty on it. If this was the case, legally there’s no leg to stand on. If not, he should have sued the crap out of them
It is possible to buy a good used vehicle and it's also possible to buy a really bad new vehicle. Personally, I'd rather buy used as whatever chronic early life manufacturing problems it had will likely be resolved and you avoid loosing 30% value from just driving it off the lot. Just need to get used vehicles throughly inspected and always bring a code reader & flashlight with you. Alternatively, buy CPO w/warranty or do the Doug DeMuro Carmax thing - still cheaper than buying new.
@@gilmher38115 Yeah, as with nearly all used cars. I knew that up front. And so did they. That's why I had no recourse.
@@ckm-mkc True, but, with new you not only have at least 3 years of bumper to bumper warranty, you always know how the truck is treated and that it has always been serviced property according to schedule. Saving the 30% or so for used there is still that risk of getting someone else's problem or that it was never serviced when it was supposed to be.
You know what, with 200k miles on it, some of those things are to be expected as 'wear and tear' - ie the tires, seals, the ball joints, and even the springs. Those frame rails though are a definite deal breaker. At this point, I would call that truck a 'parts vehicle'.
Except, what "parts" are still good on it?
I hope that guy took the truck back. And told that used car person they sold them a lemon. That 2006 would cost more to fix than it is worth.
The term Lemon only applies to a car purchased new under a certain timeframe. Usually a couple years.
we tell our customers to ALWAYS get an inspection first, very rarely do they listen, they tend to buy then have it inspected! Most of the time it's not good, sometimes they get lucky though!! Keep up the great work, take care
Has anyone on here tried JB Weld on that kind of frame rust? (checking for a friend)
If I couldnt weld Id go full fiberglass/epoxy before JB. Good enough for sailboats
Great videos as always!!!!! And I don't even own any Fords! Just like your content, and a lot of it transfers to other vehicles. Haters gonna hate; 7 people don't know common sense.
Paco the car washed sez “ boss this car is no bueno, 100% caca”
Mustie would have that frame fixed in no time! ;o)
10:20 that blue RTV silicone on the oil drain plug doesn't give me the warm fuzzies either.
Great video!
Nope that's a Walmart seal of authenticity.
@@superwolf28 LOL, no doubt.
works on Fords, drives a jeep! love it.
Follow FTM instructions and do it yourself !!!