Here is an update for everyone: -Frank was compensated for letting me film. I fixed his other car and saved him over $600. I did this because he was great with letting me film the video. -I thought I made it clear but for those who are confused, this car is worth $2500 with no problems, it needs $1200+ in work to make it safe to drive, so a $1900 offer is more than fair (and he had many people check the car and not even get an offer because of the bad shape the car was in). A dealer would have given him $800 for a trade in if they even took it at all. -For those of you saying, "I would have just given him the extra $100" you are missing the point. If you give the person even more money than the car is worth, you are getting taken advantage of. No one is forcing the owner to sell the car to me, he agreed to the deal. If he didnt want to sell it, he didnt have to sell it. -Hopefully that clears somethings up for those who are confused! Hopefully the series was helpful!
+ChrisFix yeah that's true, actually he tried to lowball you, when you went with the price down he said ohh but you said that you loved the car. He tried to play with your mind but in the end you played with him. Because this is how things go, I did once a mistake when buying my first car, total dumbass at 19 years xDDD and since that I've learned the lesson.
+ChrisFix Cool thanks for your honesty. I was wondering if he was given any kind of compensation for letting you film. I guess that makes sense and that might have influenced his selling price in the end slightly. I think one of the best things about these luxury cars that if they are still in decent shape is knowing that someone previously probably paid around 30-40K for the same car you are now enjoying at just a fraction of that amount.
+ChrisFix the series was really helpful indeed! After having my dad buy a car that needed a LOT of work for way more money than it was worth, with this guide I'm sure that won't happen again, hopefully :D So thanks a lot, and congratz for your Jaguar :)
Frank was very patient and never at any point sounded like he had anything to hide. He's a Class A guy letting you do this on video. And THANK YOU for these important tips!
@Green Giant you have a twisted way of viewing standard business practices. You ALWAYS should try to get the cheaper price on goods and services if at all possible. Used cars come with risks of internal parts going kaputz. As long as the seller was satisfied with the deal - that's all the hell that matters. The only Class B guy here dude is you. If you talk me down on a price and I agree to it - I'm not being ripped off or bled. If I'm not happy with an offer, I don't have to accept. Same thing with Frank dealing with Chris. Frank agreed - so why are you pissed off? Keep in mind., Frank was not mentally deficient.
@Green Giant oh boo-hoo. You totally hurt my feelings. LOL. You're butt-hurt because you live in a child's fairy-tale land. Just to clarify - that place is in your head. When you shop groceries - surely you go the most expensive store available because all those other stores are just cutting the throats of honest businessmen? Same thing with medicine? Grow up son. Grow up. You should stop acting like a backward 12 year old.
@Green Giant I had no idea I was talking to Bill Gates himself! What an honor to meet you sir! Forgive me for my not realizing that you alone are the sole authority on business dealings. Dumb ash. I'm sure you're a wizard at finances. Which explains why you waste your time on this RUclips channel, talking to a lowely person you consider beneath you. That almost makes me believe you really are Bill Gates. Bwahahahaa! Trust me. I dont feel the least inferior to losers like yourself. Goodbye - have a good day convincing yourself how much better you are than anyone else. Its time I run along now. I hear your mommy calling you and I dont want to get you in trouble. Cya!
@@ImTheDaveman dude you are bad ass like these replys are fucking awesome no joke like you know how talk some since in to people well at least most people that bill gates wanna be probably has no since at all
Me too, I would have gave him a good price and on top of that atleast $200 extra to allow me to film cause I get that a lot of people would be kind of uncomfortable and weirded out being recorded while showing someone your car.
If it makes it any better, Chris said that he helped him with a repair in another vehicle and saved him over 600 dollars since he was such a good guy and allowed him to record. Frank is such a W
Trev Lol. 11 years later, I too will probably have no knowledge on how to properly take care of a car without having to dump my whole bank account to some mechanic, that'll probably end scamming me by making it worse. 😅
I have been using this video series to help my son find a good cash car. It has been super valuable, great time spent with my son instructing him on the process and helping him feel comfortable taking his time and not jumping at the first thing that he looks at. My takeaways in order: 1. The process of determining the value of a car PRIOR to seeing the car might the best part of this series. 2. Finding all the things that are wrong, and determining if they are more trouble than they are worth. If not, factor the repairs into the negotiation. Seems obvious, but I didn't do that in the past. 3. Knowing what you are willing to spend, and walking away if you cannot agree on that price. I had one observation of the ChrisFix checklist. I didn't see a place to write the mileage. Maybe I missed it. But having that recorded prior to seeing the car was helpful in one case where the car's mileage was meaningfully different from the listing (around 12,000 mi different). I don't know that I would have noticed otherwise. We haven't found the right deal yet, but thanks to this series, we feel like "pros," which gives us confidence.
Most car shoppers get too emotional about the product, imagining themselves driving it around town, telling their family and friends, thinking how cool they will look in it, etc...As hard as it is to do, you have to be emotionally detached and willing to walk away. Chris did just that. Great job! That's how you do it!
Good advice although my last two cars were a long distance away from where I live, so the expense of getting there meant I had to cross my fingers and hope the cars were good enough to buy and drive home.
Emotions play a huge role in the sales process. Some people will avoid a test drive all together to avoid this, but I don't recommend it, as you should ALWAYS test drive a vehicle before purchasing. And technically you want to buy a car you CAN be emotionally attached to, just don't let that play a role in your negotiating.
Frank probably really wanted to just sell it and Chris gave the best reasons why it is worth no more than $1900. I still feel bad for frank though. I would've probably said $2100
@@marcochan371 me too, here in Germany, buying a car with 1.900 it should at least have a few problems. Usually over 2.000 you find cars with no or few problems.
I assume people didn't watch the multiple videos predating this one to see how in depth this man just showed us why the car is not worth the asking price...the ignorance of the masses I tell you...Great Vid Chris, don't worry...your efforts are not made in vain.
The car is $3000 "But you wanna be reasonable and don't low-ball it, because it will make him mad and disrespectful." ...and right of the bat, with a straight face offers him $1500 for it, ROFL ...nicely done, sir.
Do the picasso method, become so famous and carry around a sketchbook with you so instead of buying shit you just draw them a picture in 5 seconds and give it your autograph. Picasso did that to buy cigarettes instead of using real money.
Frank probably realized that he wasn't gonna sell the car soon and took whatever he could get for it at that point because Chris was probably the most serious buyer
Rule of buying anything thing used, "Don't Be Afraid to Walk Away!". If a seller knows your not emotionally invested in buying their car they are more likely to take a lower offer, and sellers normally price higher than they are willing to take.
Hey Chris, I used your advice on the inspection and questions to ask for a recent purchase of a used car. Dude I ended up getting the car for $100 less than what my bottom line price was. Your videos were extremely useful. The seller wanted 2600 and I ended up getting it for $1300. Thanks for doing videos like this.
Reasonable seller, nice he didn't consider it a law-ball to open with 1500$, seems Mr Frank intelligently set 3k knowing the car is worth 2k, fully aware people will negotiate it down :)
Exactly. I do the same at times with stuff sell. Either I go hard with a low price and make it clear that it is the final price or I mark it up to be able to find a resonable price after a negotiation.
they are trying to do better than trade-in value. chrisfix probably knows that too. and the guy mentioned he's shown it to a few other people, that's a mistake. shoulda kept it to himself. he's doing the work of a dealer and didn't make much more.. the miles sound bad and hard to find people that want to fix up an old car though
Even at 51 years old, I believed I knew how to purchase a used car but your video series really opened my eyes. Thank you for this very straight to the point and very informative videos.
That is what I love about the internet. Just when you think you have learned everything, there is someone who opens your eyes to the truth. We are hoping to do the same on our channel!
Just want to comment on your negotiating, you demonstrated the biggest advantage you have as the buyer: never be afraid to walk away. It works even better at a dealership since they're likely under much more pressure to sell than a private owner.
@@princeakilesh4881 So I've been doing a lot of studying on buying cars from dealerships and yes, Dealerships will try to put on a _lot_ of 'add-ons' and 'fees' to jack their prices up. You can tell them *NO* to any add-ons, and most, if not ALL of the fees they add are straight-up bogus. My advice would be to settle on a fair price in your budget, then, if they try to add any fees to make you pay more, tell them "I'll pay those fees if you take the amount of them off the price of the car". Not 100% sure if it'd work, but it lets them know you're adamant about sticking to your guns and if they don't agree, stand up, shake their hand and say "Adios" 😂 (just kidding, but be sure to let them know you're not afraid of walking away. That puts extra pressure on them to sell at _your_ price, not theirs)
hello from London (original) i just wanted to thank you for the check list you preperad . i bought Honda jazz/FIT last week and with the help of that list i manage to eliminate 4 lemons and find myself spotless jazz just because of you. i did not even bring a mechanic with me . i thank you to your parents because they raised fantastic person. thank you very much indeed.
This guy 😂😂 “don’t low ball them” “I’ll give you 1500” 🤦🏿♂️ How are people still commenting on this after a whole ass year 😂 my comment was just a joke, I wasn’t saying that he should of offered more I just thought it was funny and caught me off guard, some of y’all are taking it way to serious
@@fragrantcrown77 That's how bargaining works, you offer a price at the low end of reasonable and then work up. Half price is a good place to start. And that's being generous, the Chinese technique (as practiced by my mom) is more aggressive...
Seven Yes The Number Seven he did though, I’m not saying that the guy got ripped off or anything because he is the one that In the end agreed to 1500 but I’m just saying people are going to put a price on their cars thinking that it’s worth more than it is wether you or anybody else agrees with it, if you offer half of what they’re asking for then they’ll probably feel offended and low balled
Just wanted to reach out and say I watched this video and went and bought a car listed at $9800 and negotiated it down to $6500 with these methods and the knowledge gained from the inspection. Thank you!
@Matt Miller It was a low ball offer assuming that Chris knew what the asking price was. In other words you have to assume a car this old will have some problems that will need to get fixed so when you ask to see the car one would assume that you think the asking price is not so far up.
This was helpful, thank you. Actually you paid $1900 cash + $600 in repairs or $2500. You made sure he did pretty well as well. Maybe not in cash but through other services as well. Good negotiating!
Fast forward to 2020... Frank puts his house on the market. Chris calls. Frank: Hi, this is Frank Chris: Hi, Frank. This is Chris. I bought your Jag a few years ago. Frank: Oh, hey, Chris. How’s it going? Chris: I’m doing good. Listen, Frank... I understand you just listed your house for sale and I’d like to make you an offer. *CLICK*
Mad respect for not giving emotional ground. You know the worth of the car and are willing to say no even if it hurts. A tutorial demonstrating not just through word but also action
This is like the first time I watch an entire 10+ minute video without getting bored and clicking off. Thank you so much for this useful video. Clean, clear voice, no bs. Love it. Im subscribing. Great video man. I will definetly be rewatching this when I purchase my car in the next couple months.
Julio Constante yeah same here, started looking him yesterday, im just 15 and because im living in Germany i am allowed to drive cars after turning 18, my grandma always let me drive her 1.2 litre Corsa through the forest, i love driving cars and can perfectly stick shift, but i cant wait to have my own one driving through the city. Meanwhile i just watching chrisfix, he is the first RUclipsr i can watch car tutorials from. Its nice to see how you can buy an old used car and make it look almost like new. He has such a nice voice to explain such things.
Chris, I love your posts. One additional item to add to your inspection check list. Run you finger up as far as you can to feel for excessive “dirt”. Excess dirt is alway found in flooded vehicles. Owners can clean up a flooded car everywhere except up behind and around the instrument panel. Hope this helps.
Just because it’s a luxury car doesn’t mean it’s automatically worth thousands.. people forget that these parts are expensive, & the trade in value was already 2500 at max. 2000 is actually very reasonable in this case. this is how you negotiate.
I'm pry your biggest customer... Last three vehicles including current is a lemon. I can't wait for a law that used cars must be certified by a Mechanic as kinda safe. My windshield wipers don't work and truck dies under 30mph... I just needed a work vehicle and the jerk let me make payments....
That's not a lowball. He outlined what it would take to fix the car, which would be over $1200. Not to mention, he didn't even talk about what it'll take to fix the back sensor as well as the front bumper. If the car was in tip top shape it would be $2500, but it wasn't that at all. So, if we assume $2500 is the standard trade in, taking off $1200 for all the things he'll need to fix would be $1300. $1500>$1300, so Chris actually gave a pretty good offer. Definitely on the lower side, but not a lowball at all
With only 135k miles on it, the lowest I would have went was $2100 if i listed it for 3k, not my problem if he wants the OEM rims, I got em in the back for an extra 300 am I right?
@Jason H actually it goes a bit like this, maybe you can call this negotiating a bit: Me:how much is it? Them: $ Me: can it be lower? Them: no Me: pays amount
@@theblitz1687 another respectful way to ask is simply "are you firm on the price?" if you notice problems and they won't come down than either take it or walk away simple as that. if you DON'T notice problems and they won't come down than fair enough. I almost got tricked into buying a 2005 station wagon for more than i got my 2009 turbocharged car for, so make a smart choice.
I've learnt a lot of this from growing up driving only used cars and my father, but there is definitely a handful of things I specifically learned outside of that which is covered here. Thank you very much for the video.
ChrisFix when I negotiations I always feel bad for the other side, I always get ripped off or when I'm selling too same thing. Lol I gotta work on it but I think this video will definitely help me on my next car
Right, but he put 6k miles on it. He had that car for maybe 6 months. I'd guess it was a stopover for his wife till he could find her the SUV she wanted.
روي جابر بن عبد الله رضي الله عنهما: أن رسول الله محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، قال: «رحم الله رجلاً سمحا إذا باع، وإذا كان، وإذا اقتضى» This is a saying of Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him I heard a man narrate from Uthman bin Affan from the Prophet PBUH who said: `A man was easy-going when buying and selling, and when paying his dues and asking for what he was owe then he will enter Paradise.” That feeling of making use of someone's need to sell something or ripping him off is discouraged in Islam
Bill C No, he said _Around_ $2000. $1900 was a perfect representation of what it was worth. Any higher and he would have been taken advantage of, breaking the video guide. And since this was a video series in which case he technically used more of Frank’s time, Chris compensated him $600 in repairs that was entirely exclusive from the video guide. This series is representative of how buying a used car _Should_ be.
Hey ChrisFix. I just wanna thank you for helping me buy a used car. I bought a 97 Honda Civic coupe back in November and used some of your used car buying techniques. The car is a little rough cosmetically and it’s leaking a bit of oil in the oil pan but that ain’t a big deal cuz I can work with that. This and the Del Sol video really helped me out
My dad had a 2003 Jaguar X-Type in dark blue with the manual 2.5. I loved it and we had it for three years. We bought it brand new for 36k so $1,900 is an awesome deal.
I know this is an older video, but I wanted to thank you for all your videos in this little used jaguar buying series. I used your car check list for inspecting and test driving a used car I was interested and it really helped me with making my decision! Lots of content I found was not as helpful as yours, thanks again!
Congrats on the Jag, but you made me cringe during the negotiations. You said don't lowball the seller, but you offered half of his asking price off the bat? BRUTAL! :)
+Chris Freemesser In fairness, 3k for the car when it needs about 1k's worth of work means 2k is the realistic sale price for that thing anway. Then you always start lower again so that theres give and take. The more times you can go back and forth, the more the seller gets to work towards his price, whilst still being in your comfort zone. And as we saw, clearly the 1900 is good enough for the seller, Chris didn't hassle him (that we saw) for the sale, everyone walks away happy.
Chris, my mans, this content is so helpful and eye opening!!! A lot of us have families that don't drive and school doesn't teach us these things and car dealerships are full of shady crooks. I watched all the videos in this series and I really enjoyed how you broke down the information. Planning to buy my first car and feeling really overwhelmed but feel much better now thanks to you :)
@@diablotry5447 compared to 2000 bucks, 100 is insignificant. If you want to buy something that costs 20$, a 10$ increase is a lot. However, of you want to buy something that costs 1000$, the same 10$ is a negligible amount to pay
@@diablotry5447 if you are buying a 2000$ car (+ all the costs for repairs) it means that you can actually afford to pay this amount. Since you are willing to spend 3k+ on a car, the 100$ shouldn't make much of a difference. To put it in other words, for a poor man 100$ is his weekly salary. For a rich man, 100$ is what his child gets weekly to spend. The context matters. If I offered you 5$ you will, most likely, be like "meh". If I offered the same 5$ to a homeless man he would be extremely grateful.
I always do the brake test. If you ask the owner and he / she agrees, what's the problem? In my experience most of the cars I tested have failed the tests ;) It's not dangerous when you're within the speed limit. Brakes fail if the car stops slower than expected or ABS doesn't kick in. Most cars however failed the hard acceleration test. After like 5 test drives I decided to keep my old car, because unlike the cars I tested - it passes all the tests. Yes, I do these tests every time I leave the garage after another repair ;)
Testing the brakes is never a bad idea. Did this on my car once when i suspected the brakes lines may be failing and sure enough they failed. Better that they failed at that moment rather then when i need them.
oh god a 100 dollar difference thats not a fucking lowball. he has to do 1200 dollars worth of work to it, why would he give him anymore than 1900? its not a fucking camaro its an x type
Michael Moss , Chris checked out the price of the car on 2 websites he uses for valuations , none of them gave a price over $2000 for the condition for this car . If you were told that a car wasn't worth more than $2000 would you be stupid enough to pay more than that price . NO !!! of course you wouldn't .
Wonderful video Chris. I was an auto broker for nearly 2 decades and you are giving out amazing information for free. People are commenting on the fact you low-balled him but in all actuality he was selling a mislabeled car. That 2003 in mint condition wasn't worth even 2,500. In the condition it was in 1,500 was pushing it not to mention the 1,000-1,500 in work it needed. That Ford engine with 130K is also not the most reliable. Great job
More likely plottwist: Frank god told off camera that he will get 2100$ he asks for but just on camera has to agree to 1900 for Chris to look good and calm.
Chris, great job on this. I'm actually test driving several potential cars right now, and I would personally add these additions to the test drive: (1) Practice backing the car up! Get a sense for how well you can visualize your surroundings (especially if it doesn't have a rear camera). Also, since I drive a standard, I want to make sure the reverse gear is distinct from the others. I drove a nice car where reverse & 1st gear were too close for comfort, and rejected it on that basis. (2) If possible, ascend a steep hill. Does the car struggle? How does the transmission respond under the stress? (3) Deliberately go over a rough patch or hit a small bump (informing the owner in advance this is a test). Or if you pass by an unpaved road or dirt parking lot, ask if you can take a brief detour there. Get a sense of how it absorbs the bumps, and feels on a less-than-ideal road. (4) You may have done this without specifically mentioning it, but I politely ask the owner for some intentional moments of non-conversation, specifically to listen to the car. Get a sense for wind/road noise, rattles/squeaks, or anything about the engine that doesn't sound pleasing. Then pick up the conversation again. Some of the owners actually complemented me for being so thorough. It communicated that I was taking the test drive (and therefore the car) seriously, and I think that was a good unspoken message to convey. Hope your readers find this helpful.
@@_.yvngrich If you're buying from a private party like someone on Facebook or Craigslist, you need to have the full amount. And, yes, the car always needs to be insured. It's illegal to drive an uninsured car. If you get pulled over you'll lose your car.
Thanks for your advice Chris. I went for my first ever used car inspection today. I used your checklist and the car seemed up to par. I don't know a lot about cars, and it gave me a lot of pointers for what to look for, especially when it came to questioning the owner. Your test drive advice was especially useful. I only discovered a fault due to your advice to do an emergency brake. I got up to 40 on a clear highway, told him what i was going to do, and went ahead. ABS light lit up and the car skidded round so we turned 90 degrees to the left. I've never been in a skid before, so I was surprised at how calm I remained. The smell of rubber filled the car for the next few minutes. I like the car, but it raised a serious issue on which I can haggle down the price w.r.t repair costs (those brakes will need some work!!), and I wouldn't have thought to test an emergency stop without your advice, so thank you!!!
When negotiating. The one thing i have learnt is to never praise something that needs work. "I love the car but i think your asking too much" the guys got you right there. If you love the car as stands, he's expecting you to take it for that price. Always say that the car is okay, or not too bad, this gives them a sense of false confidence and they quickly rethink their price and are open to a new price.. most of the time
@@chrisfix true that. I’m so awkward and passive aggressive but in the end it’s either they move on to another buyer and forget you or you have a new cheap car
I think he meant it if you know the car is fine and won't need money to fix to be drive able, don't lowball. But since he estimated that the car needs a about $1200 in repairs, and the car is worth $2500 in good condition(no repairs needed) . Than $1500 isn't completely unreasonable. It's an art, man. I personally don't like to lowball, I don't want to disrespect someone. But we have to be logical when buying a used car and know what these cars go for and what needs to be repaired ASAP. Use that as leverage to lower the price. I paid too much for a Lexus SC 400 because I really wanted it, now I'm having to replace rear wheel bearings, hubs and rotors.
+Mozzie yeah... i've seen worse. 1998 honda crv with 390k miles (original engine and transmission) with a little too many dents (not anything minor either) and the owner is asking $3k lol. i have to say though, basically 400k miles is impressive
I just got myself a 2020 nissan versa sv. ive been obsessed with watching these kinds of videos. I originally wanted a toyota but this is what i just ended up leaving with, i dropped the gun too fast and jumped on it without seeing what else cars i had to choose from, lol. i'm very grateful though, god is good.
blackopssavage do not get a loan. I wouldn’t personally because it’s just not worth the stress of paying back that loan. Just save up, there are plenty of great cars out there under £2000
I got a loan. Just wanted 2k, but the minimum allowed was 3, so i took it. I should have done all this research ahead of time bc i spent damn near a 3rd of it already on other stuff. Moral of the story. Be smart and proactive
I bought a car without even seeing the car first. It got delivered to my home. Paid 700€ for it. Its worth 2500€. Only problem is one of the cylinders and it likes to eat gas
Hey Chris! Thank you for your video. I followed your guidelines and was not only able to find a good car, I made such a good impression on the seller I was able to get a better deal! You saved me 1000 euro!
i don't think it's speaking skills. knowledge beats negotiating tricks everytime. just drop knowledge and don't budge. the market is just asking price and selling price. his number was 2k, going down to 1.5k and seller asking 3k is a formality. the thing here is that the seller didn't have a number for himself. he's probably just trying to do better than trade-in, which is technically still a number i guess. but chrisfix has way more knowledge.
I love this channel, I've already learned so much about buying and fixing cars from Chris' videos, and I've only been subscribed for about a week. This is my favorite channel on youtube right now!
He was stuck with the car because his price was unreasonable. He sold it because he knew that was the very cash in hand he was gonna get without taking a hit from trading it in himself.
You know franks wife had a fight with him that night when he arrived home and told her he sold the car for $1900 instead of the $3000 he was asking for
Thank you soo much for this videos. I‘ll do my drivers license soon and you made me fall in love with cars again. I will definetly take your advice for buying my first car. I even thought about buying a car that I can only get back and forth with your tutorials. But don't worry my brother is a mechanic and he would check it again. Thanks again for all your great videos😊
+Cam G You always set the price above what you'd actually settle for. It's just business. If you go to a used car sale you never buy a car for the posted price, you bargain, make a deal.
+Marco de la Peña Low ball is making an offer significantly lower than the value of the car. The car needs $1200+ in work if I do it myself. There is a reason why he hasnt sold it, or even got an offer after he had a bunch of people looked at it. His asking price was way too high. If he was at the $2500 it was worth, I would have offered $1900 and came up a little but he was so far away you have to offer a lower price to negotiate in the middle. That is how you buy a car.
yeah especially considering Chris has a successful yt channel and would earn a bit of coin with adsense and all. I feel like with buying and selling cars a small bit of empathy in the interaction doesn't hurt. I would have accepted 2k.
Why does it matter what Chris's occupation is? Purchasing an item is purchasing an item, the number isn't arbitrary. Would $2100 be reasonable? Up to you. But 1900 is still lower than 2000 and that's how negotiating works. Having an even round number isn't worth $100.
nope. i bet you he doesnt at all look at youtube comments, see everyone disagree, and think "wow these youtubers are right. They know more about my car than I do."
This entire series is great information. I wish I would have watched this before buying my previous used car. I dare say you can even use these tips when going to a dealership. I, sure they wouldn’t be expecting a knowledgeable and meticulous buyer. Great price. That $100 does make a difference. Ppl here judging you over the $100 obviously don’t work for their money. When buying a used car every dollar counts because you have to invest that much more to get it open running. Thanks again Chris.
chris you forgot one thing never get excited or say you like it or love it before the discussion about buying it because they could make the price depending on your like on the car
Here is an update for everyone:
-Frank was compensated for letting me film. I fixed his other car and saved him over $600. I did this because he was great with letting me film the video.
-I thought I made it clear but for those who are confused, this car is worth $2500 with no problems, it needs $1200+ in work to make it safe to drive, so a $1900 offer is more than fair (and he had many people check the car and not even get an offer because of the bad shape the car was in). A dealer would have given him $800 for a trade in if they even took it at all.
-For those of you saying, "I would have just given him the extra $100" you are missing the point. If you give the person even more money than the car is worth, you are getting taken advantage of. No one is forcing the owner to sell the car to me, he agreed to the deal. If he didnt want to sell it, he didnt have to sell it.
-Hopefully that clears somethings up for those who are confused! Hopefully the series was helpful!
+ChrisFix yeah that's true, actually he tried to lowball you, when you went with the price down he said ohh but you said that you loved the car. He tried to play with your mind but in the end you played with him. Because this is how things go, I did once a mistake when buying my first car, total dumbass at 19 years xDDD and since that I've learned the lesson.
+intoSmartphones Toderici exactly!
+ChrisFix Cool thanks for your honesty. I was wondering if he was given any kind of compensation for letting you film. I guess that makes sense and that might have influenced his selling price in the end slightly. I think one of the best things about these luxury cars that if they are still in decent shape is knowing that someone previously probably paid around 30-40K for the same car you are now enjoying at just a fraction of that amount.
+ChrisFix the series was really helpful indeed! After having my dad buy a car that needed a LOT of work for way more money than it was worth, with this guide I'm sure that won't happen again, hopefully :D So thanks a lot, and congratz for your Jaguar :)
+Strax Awesome! That is the goal! I hate it when I hear that someone got ripped off or stuck with a bad car.
Frank was very patient and never at any point sounded like he had anything to hide. He's a Class A guy letting you do this on video. And THANK YOU for these important tips!
Thanks a lot!
@Green Giant you have a twisted way of viewing standard business practices. You ALWAYS should try to get the cheaper price on goods and services if at all possible. Used cars come with risks of internal parts going kaputz. As long as the seller was satisfied with the deal - that's all the hell that matters. The only Class B guy here dude is you. If you talk me down on a price and I agree to it - I'm not being ripped off or bled. If I'm not happy with an offer, I don't have to accept. Same thing with Frank dealing with Chris. Frank agreed - so why are you pissed off? Keep in mind., Frank was not mentally deficient.
@Green Giant oh boo-hoo. You totally hurt my feelings. LOL. You're butt-hurt because you live in a child's fairy-tale land. Just to clarify - that place is in your head. When you shop groceries - surely you go the most expensive store available because all those other stores are just cutting the throats of honest businessmen? Same thing with medicine? Grow up son. Grow up. You should stop acting like a backward 12 year old.
@Green Giant I had no idea I was talking to Bill Gates himself! What an honor to meet you sir! Forgive me for my not realizing that you alone are the sole authority on business dealings. Dumb ash. I'm sure you're a wizard at finances. Which explains why you waste your time on this RUclips channel, talking to a lowely person you consider beneath you. That almost makes me believe you really are Bill Gates. Bwahahahaa! Trust me. I dont feel the least inferior to losers like yourself. Goodbye - have a good day convincing yourself how much better you are than anyone else. Its time I run along now. I hear your mommy calling you and I dont want to get you in trouble. Cya!
@@ImTheDaveman dude you are bad ass like these replys are fucking awesome no joke like you know how talk some since in to people well at least most people that bill gates wanna be probably has no since at all
“Gonna do a hard braking test and try to lock the ABS”
*Frank jolts foward*
LOL, two times 👿
Yeah he could have warned him haha
Mike Epperson LNFAOOHFCNHF
Mike Epperson poor frank
Doesn't abs mean that you can steer while braking? Funny that he kept going straight ahead.
I would of given him the $2100 just for being such a good sport about being recorded
Me too, I would have gave him a good price and on top of that atleast $200 extra to allow me to film cause I get that a lot of people would be kind of uncomfortable and weirded out being recorded while showing someone your car.
Lmao y'all are too nice
@@bruhgang6862 can't help it, I'm Canadian
Yeah or 2000 like he originally said
If it makes it any better, Chris said that he helped him with a repair in another vehicle and saved him over 600 dollars since he was such a good guy and allowed him to record. Frank is such a W
I’m not going to lie... seeing frank drop to 1900 hurt my soul
R.I.P frank
I would have given him $2k.........and slept better at night. 😏👌🏼
@@YankeeStacking whys Frank 1900 drop what?
Lmao =)))
Steve Thea I just hate squeezing the last drop out of people who I think are not in the best financial shape. 👌🏼
@@stevethea5250 lll
“Don’t lowball the seller”
*Asks for 50% of the price*
That's how negotiation works. You work up the amount so the seller feels good about getting more money then what the buyer wanted.
John Schliesleder Yeah that’s pretty obvious, what I’m saying is that he mentioned that you SHOULDN'T lowball the seller while doing so himself.
I dont think he low balled the seller so much as the seller over valued the car
Noah Rahal • 38 years ago
I looked @ your 38 years ago and was like wtf and then saw the 1 month.
If Frank asked for 10000K and he offered 5000K would it still be lowball, the car was simply overpriced
As a new driver this vid gave me so much anxiety because it made me realize I don't know sh*t about cars lol
Your comment was over a year ago. You must be pretty experienced by now.;)
Trev
Lol. 11 years later, I too will probably have no knowledge on how to properly take care of a car without having to dump my whole bank account to some mechanic, that'll probably end scamming me by making it worse. 😅
SegaDisneyUniverse dont worry man just detail the car regularly and check all fluids are ok
SegaDisneyUniverse maintenance is key listen to your car when your car tells you it needs something it needs it
Especially blink fluid and return piston springs!
I have been using this video series to help my son find a good cash car. It has been super valuable, great time spent with my son instructing him on the process and helping him feel comfortable taking his time and not jumping at the first thing that he looks at. My takeaways in order:
1. The process of determining the value of a car PRIOR to seeing the car might the best part of this series.
2. Finding all the things that are wrong, and determining if they are more trouble than they are worth. If not, factor the repairs into the negotiation. Seems obvious, but I didn't do that in the past.
3. Knowing what you are willing to spend, and walking away if you cannot agree on that price.
I had one observation of the ChrisFix checklist. I didn't see a place to write the mileage. Maybe I missed it. But having that recorded prior to seeing the car was helpful in one case where the car's mileage was meaningfully different from the listing (around 12,000 mi different). I don't know that I would have noticed otherwise.
We haven't found the right deal yet, but thanks to this series, we feel like "pros," which gives us confidence.
I'm glad you've taken all that away from this series! And I would write the milage down in the margin next to the car info section
Most car shoppers get too emotional about the product, imagining themselves driving it around town, telling their family and friends, thinking how cool they will look in it, etc...As hard as it is to do, you have to be emotionally detached and willing to walk away. Chris did just that. Great job! That's how you do it!
Robert Henry I made this mistake. My brother was much more focused than I was. But I have to admit, I was emotionally into it sadly for my first time.
Good advice although my last two cars were a long distance away from where I live, so the expense of getting there meant I had to cross my fingers and hope the cars were good enough to buy and drive home.
Well that's the main selling strategy. To sell a dream rather than just a product. You should check this out: ruclips.net/video/48HDFXFe4QI/видео.html
Emotions play a huge role in the sales process. Some people will avoid a test drive all together to avoid this, but I don't recommend it, as you should ALWAYS test drive a vehicle before purchasing. And technically you want to buy a car you CAN be emotionally attached to, just don't let that play a role in your negotiating.
I agree my first time I was sad about not getting the car I want but eventually I got a better one !
"i'm really firm at $1900" AHH I FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE, POOR FRANK.
That was a lower low ball
Damn to be honest it sounds like a rip off.
Chris is the kind of guy that tells you he's buying you a car for christmas then you find out he was talking about Hot Wheels.
Frank probably really wanted to just sell it and Chris gave the best reasons why it is worth no more than $1900. I still feel bad for frank though. I would've probably said $2100
@@marcochan371 me too, here in Germany, buying a car with 1.900 it should at least have a few problems. Usually over 2.000 you find cars with no or few problems.
Frank should have watched this video before trying to sell his car
Ramiro Raul Zagarduga Perez 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣deadddd
How😂
Lucky You go to RUclips and look it up dumby
Jerrell 2 the selling of the car was done before the posting of the video😑
Guys that was freaking joke
I assume people didn't watch the multiple videos predating this one to see how in depth this man just showed us why the car is not worth the asking price...the ignorance of the masses I tell you...Great Vid Chris, don't worry...your efforts are not made in vain.
Thanks a lot. I’m use to it at this point lol. I’m just glad I’m able to help so many people who actually want to learn!
@@chrisfix You're a great lesson giver and content creator. Thank You for your work
The car is $3000
"But you wanna be reasonable and don't low-ball it, because it will make him mad and disrespectful."
...and right of the bat, with a straight face offers him $1500 for it, ROFL ...nicely done, sir.
That definitely caught me off guard as well. I feel bad if Frank watches this ;-;
Jeez straight up half of the price
xD
$1500? Me:"You're not even in the ballpark. Make me a serious offer, or I'll have to leave. I am a busy person."
$2500 in fair condition?! Jesus Christ in my piece of shit country this car would cost like 5000 EUR at least.
“Got some weirdos” he’s talking about you narrating everything you do😂😂
Best comment ever
and slamming on those brakes.
That's so true omg :D
I think the narrations are overvoiced.
😂😂😂
Chris: grabs a bag of chips
Store: that would be $1.99
Chris: I’ll give you .50 cents and that’s my final offer
I tried it and I didn’t get the chips today.
@@Lucky-fs7xz maybe tmr you'll have better luck xD
Do the picasso method, become so famous and carry around a sketchbook with you so instead of buying shit you just draw them a picture in 5 seconds and give it your autograph. Picasso did that to buy cigarettes instead of using real money.
Store: WTF?!
heheheh
Five years later, we still appreciate you Frank
Best strategies while buying a used car:
- Talk to a camera while negotiating and pretend to be a RUclipsr
🤣
😂😂😂it makes you look legit
Right? No pressure on the seller whatsoever 🥴
If having 8 million+ subs doesn’t make you a RUclipsr wtf will…
@@JayPrinceReacts he's talking about himself duh
Frank probably realized that he wasn't gonna sell the car soon and took whatever he could get for it at that point because Chris was probably the most serious buyer
@@sebastiansebastian5270 dude..
@tomr6955 Frank was compensated for letting him film the video
@@xitaris5981he gave frank a big Italian sausage
Right he knew he wasn't gonna sell it till Chris came along hehe
@@TragickSin lol u think so?
"Dont low ball" Car is up for 3000, Asks 1500.. Ahh the negotiator.
thats not a lowball for the amount of work it needed and the fact that its a jaguar
@No Regrets Frank should have waited for a more gullible buyer.
Best I can do is 500
@@jamesshaw4954 150 and i'll throw in a Starbucks latte. Take it or leave it.
I'll throw in a case of Budweiser
"I can't go above 2000, my final offer is 1900"
lmao
My final offer is 1999, but I WILL NOT!!!! go above 2000!!!
?
@@arthurias7693 $1999.99, but not a penny more!
@@southpaw117 DEAL!!
Rule of buying anything thing used, "Don't Be Afraid to Walk Away!". If a seller knows your not emotionally invested in buying their car they are more likely to take a lower offer, and sellers normally price higher than they are willing to take.
George on Seinfeld taught me this 😂
Anything thing?
Hey Chris, I used your advice on the inspection and questions to ask for a recent purchase of a used car. Dude I ended up getting the car for $100 less than what my bottom line price was. Your videos were extremely useful. The seller wanted 2600 and I ended up getting it for $1300. Thanks for doing videos like this.
Holy Sh..., if you can pull the same with GPUs youre rich my guy
Genius
Yall, let’s start a gofundme to get frank that extra hundred Chris didn’t give him 🤣💀
@@ricardoperez8879 that joke went so far over your head that it was on national news as a possible ufo sighting
@@cherrypepsi2815 Went so far over his head, it was in the ozone layer 😂😂😂
@@nadotime4810 nah nah I think that thing is in orbit right now idefk where it is
AHAHAHA
@@ricardoperez8879 idk lol
"I've had my fair share of people looking at this car, i've got some weirdos" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That actually threw me off a little bit haha
Hahaha love you videos by the way, you've helped me out with my car here in England. Hope you do a fwd clutch replacement video in the future
I'm too scared to do all this examining and checklist =w=. ughh so hard. can I hire a lawyer lol..
@@mockinjay3rd Social anxiety be like i feel you haha
@@mockinjay3rd I’m sayin. Feels like I’d be a weirdo for going I guess “going overboard” but it’s only fair if imma be spending thousands.
Reasonable seller, nice he didn't consider it a law-ball to open with 1500$, seems Mr Frank intelligently set 3k knowing the car is worth 2k, fully aware people will negotiate it down :)
mareczek00713 well he can’t set it at $2k otherwise they offer $1k
Exactly. I do the same at times with stuff sell. Either I go hard with a low price and make it clear that it is the final price or I mark it up to be able to find a resonable price after a negotiation.
they are trying to do better than trade-in value. chrisfix probably knows that too. and the guy mentioned he's shown it to a few other people, that's a mistake. shoulda kept it to himself.
he's doing the work of a dealer and didn't make much more.. the miles sound bad and hard to find people that want to fix up an old car though
SHHHH!!!!!
Good that someone understands... so sick of seeing these comments of ppl going “uuhhhh the negotiating made me cringe uhhhb”
Even at 51 years old, I believed I knew how to purchase a used car but your video series really opened my eyes. Thank you for this very straight to the point and very informative videos.
That is what I love about the internet. Just when you think you have learned everything, there is someone who opens your eyes to the truth. We are hoping to do the same on our channel!
Just want to comment on your negotiating, you demonstrated the biggest advantage you have as the buyer: never be afraid to walk away. It works even better at a dealership since they're likely under much more pressure to sell than a private owner.
Absolutely!
But at a dealership; there are more cost about the car, right ?
@@princeakilesh4881 So I've been doing a lot of studying on buying cars from dealerships and yes, Dealerships will try to put on a _lot_ of 'add-ons' and 'fees' to jack their prices up. You can tell them *NO* to any add-ons, and most, if not ALL of the fees they add are straight-up bogus.
My advice would be to settle on a fair price in your budget, then, if they try to add any fees to make you pay more, tell them "I'll pay those fees if you take the amount of them off the price of the car". Not 100% sure if it'd work, but it lets them know you're adamant about sticking to your guns and if they don't agree, stand up, shake their hand and say "Adios" 😂 (just kidding, but be sure to let them know you're not afraid of walking away. That puts extra pressure on them to sell at _your_ price, not theirs)
hello from London (original) i just wanted to thank you for the check list you preperad . i bought Honda jazz/FIT last week and with the help of that list i manage to eliminate 4 lemons and find myself spotless jazz just because of you. i did not even bring a mechanic with me . i thank you to your parents because they raised fantastic person. thank you very much indeed.
I like frank. Frank is cool
same
thanks
Be like Frank..right?
Can I be your friend even if I don't know the truth?
I like frank, he's kind of person I wanna be friend with
This guy 😂😂 “don’t low ball them” “I’ll give you 1500” 🤦🏿♂️
How are people still commenting on this after a whole ass year 😂 my comment was just a joke, I wasn’t saying that he should of offered more I just thought it was funny and caught me off guard, some of y’all are taking it way to serious
It's called negotiating
@@freckledmami86 Yeah, it is, but Chris literally did what he suggested you don't do. He low balled it. Cut the price in half.
@@fragrantcrown77 That's how bargaining works, you offer a price at the low end of reasonable and then work up. Half price is a good place to start. And that's being generous, the Chinese technique (as practiced by my mom) is more aggressive...
He didn’t really low ball, the car had problems and $3000 is too much. I think he said a used good condition car was like $1600
Seven Yes The Number Seven he did though, I’m not saying that the guy got ripped off or anything because he is the one that In the end agreed to 1500 but I’m just saying people are going to put a price on their cars thinking that it’s worth more than it is wether you or anybody else agrees with it, if you offer half of what they’re asking for then they’ll probably feel offended and low balled
Seller: $3,000
Chris: $1,900
Seller: No thanks
...
Chris: Makes $4,000 on this video
right!
HAHA,he win the money from this video but i love this channel really
Damage Dat, he will make 25000 on this video
lol closer to 20k i bet
@@SimplyGrouchy *Who are you?*
Just wanted to reach out and say I watched this video and went and bought a car listed at $9800 and negotiated it down to $6500 with these methods and the knowledge gained from the inspection. Thank you!
Nice one, what was your first offer?
Frank Jaguar sold his Jaguar...
Now he is just a Frank
Lmao idk why this is so funny to me
Fullrusher me too man😂
😂😂😂
Now he's Frank Astro Van
You've just blown my mind. Now I'm just a vegetable.
Chris I didn't see anything in your checklist about the blinker fluid.
for me , i dont have people to teach me how to buy cars. youtube university is the best.
I'm glad you're learning from the videos!
make sure it’s a good car for you like BWD or FWD
If this ain’t the truth! I wouldn’t have even thought to search this, but thankful for friends who make good suggestions. Lol
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@@zanefifield6720 ra we sity
I know you're a businessman but damn man you could've let him slide with the 2k.
😂😂
@@carlosdouglas8550 Two first names, don't trust this man.
Jesus Christ is king ❤
@@headsman5960 better than Frank Jaguar at least
Chris: "Don't low-ball"
Also Chris: "I'd make you an offer of $1500"
tbf he didnt low-ball, the seller is high-balling the cars worth lmao
@Matt Miller It was a low ball offer assuming that Chris knew what the asking price was. In other words you have to assume a car this old will have some problems that will need to get fixed so when you ask to see the car one would assume that you think the asking price is not so far up.
This was helpful, thank you. Actually you paid $1900 cash + $600 in repairs or $2500. You made sure he did pretty well as well. Maybe not in cash but through other services as well. Good negotiating!
Exactly and thanks!
Fast forward to 2020...
Frank puts his house on the market.
Chris calls.
Frank: Hi, this is Frank
Chris: Hi, Frank. This is Chris. I bought your Jag a few years ago.
Frank: Oh, hey, Chris. How’s it going?
Chris: I’m doing good. Listen, Frank... I understand you just listed your house for sale and I’d like to make you an offer.
*CLICK*
Cris just stalks this guys every move waiting for him to sell something else so he can get it at half price
LMAOO
😂😂
rolf
😂😂Damn that’s funny
Mad respect for not giving emotional ground. You know the worth of the car and are willing to say no even if it hurts. A tutorial demonstrating not just through word but also action
This is like the first time I watch an entire 10+ minute video without getting bored and clicking off. Thank you so much for this useful video. Clean, clear voice, no bs. Love it. Im subscribing. Great video man. I will definetly be rewatching this when I purchase my car in the next couple months.
Julio Constante yeah same here, started looking him yesterday, im just 15 and because im living in Germany i am allowed to drive cars after turning 18, my grandma always let me drive her 1.2 litre Corsa through the forest, i love driving cars and can perfectly stick shift, but i cant wait to have my own one driving through the city. Meanwhile i just watching chrisfix, he is the first RUclipsr i can watch car tutorials from. Its nice to see how you can buy an old used car and make it look almost like new. He has such a nice voice to explain such things.
@@MaxHptn yeah bro alot of poeple makes mistakds buying there first car
Chino J Martinez yep
Frank is gonna be living on the couch now after his wife finds out how much he sold the Jag for
Lol
😱😭
😂😂
What if she just wanted it gone for no matter how much he sold it for?
I think he called the wife after the deal didnt go through, and the wife probably said sell it honey.
"I'll be honest, I can't go above 2. Ok, how about 2? No." How is this not the best video ever?!
Best video on shameless bargaining.
Chris, I love your posts. One additional item to add to your inspection check list. Run you finger up as far as you can to feel for excessive “dirt”. Excess dirt is alway found in flooded vehicles. Owners can clean up a flooded car everywhere except up behind and around the instrument panel. Hope this helps.
Just because it’s a luxury car doesn’t mean it’s automatically worth thousands.. people forget that these parts are expensive, & the trade in value was already 2500 at max. 2000 is actually very reasonable in this case. this is how you negotiate.
Thanks Nicole! Im glad you get it!
ChrisFix Of course. Used to own a 99 xj8, so I know! 😭
whats yo snap 🥺
@@highoffbluntz1131 simp
You’re pretty ❤️
I learned not to sell to people who know their stuff lol
lol
lol
RUclips is small XD, Peashooter, what u doing here XD
I'm pry your biggest customer... Last three vehicles including current is a lemon. I can't wait for a law that used cars must be certified by a Mechanic as kinda safe. My windshield wipers don't work and truck dies under 30mph... I just needed a work vehicle and the jerk let me make payments....
SRT8 Nation or can Sue.
You don't want to insult the owner.(Owner asking 3000$)
Chris- yeah i need to replace the wheels, 1500.
Rick from pawn stars would be proud.
That's not a lowball. He outlined what it would take to fix the car, which would be over $1200. Not to mention, he didn't even talk about what it'll take to fix the back sensor as well as the front bumper. If the car was in tip top shape it would be $2500, but it wasn't that at all. So, if we assume $2500 is the standard trade in, taking off $1200 for all the things he'll need to fix would be $1300. $1500>$1300, so Chris actually gave a pretty good offer. Definitely on the lower side, but not a lowball at all
considering how willing the owner was to drop down the price after a couple of tries, 3k was a highball
3Runner95SRB jg
In my opinion Chris gotta good deal 👍
3Runner95SRB lmfao
Both Frank and Chris are to be appreciated for their frank and honest talk.
Thanks both of you, more so Chris fix.
I just spent 6k EUR on a second hand ford fiesta and this guy just bought a jaguar for 1900 USD, that's savagery.
With only 135k miles on it, the lowest I would have went was $2100 if i listed it for 3k, not my problem if he wants the OEM rims, I got em in the back for an extra 300 am I right?
Lmfaoooooo,
I bought a Nissan Almera with a 100 problem for 1300
I feel realy bad
Well a Ford will run for more than a week...
Pick up a used jag in england for a grand all day long
I used the negotiation tips to buy a used PC for 25% cheaper! Will see how it works out for a car in the future.
Awesome! Let me know how it goes when you get a car!
How'd it go?
How did it go?
Did the ABS engage when you did a hard stop?
how was the computer's suspension?
How I negotiate when buying:
Me: How much is it?
Them: $amount
Me: Okay. *pays $amount*
this is so sad its basically me even though i never did negotiate i can imagine myself doing it
The Blitz same
That is you who are trying to buy a car from a grocery store.
@Jason H actually it goes a bit like this, maybe you can call this negotiating a bit:
Me:how much is it?
Them: $
Me: can it be lower?
Them: no
Me: pays amount
@@theblitz1687 another respectful way to ask is simply "are you firm on the price?"
if you notice problems and they won't come down than either take it or walk away simple as that.
if you DON'T notice problems and they won't come down than fair enough.
I almost got tricked into buying a 2005 station wagon for more than i got my 2009 turbocharged car for, so make a smart choice.
I've learnt a lot of this from growing up driving only used cars and my father, but there is definitely a handful of things I specifically learned outside of that which is covered here. Thank you very much for the video.
Dude! You are good at negotiations man I gotta learn.
Thanks! It is all about knowing the value of the car and knowing what you want to pay!
ChrisFix when I negotiations I always feel bad for the other side, I always get ripped off or when I'm selling too same thing. Lol I gotta work on it but I think this video will definitely help me on my next car
Dont feel bad. Be respectful but realize if he takes the deal, he wants to sell the car. You arent forcing him to do anything.
ChrisFix cool thank you!
Not when you are slapping him around with a stack of benjamins! lol.
Poor Frank he just wanted a new car for his family 😂😂
Right, but he put 6k miles on it. He had that car for maybe 6 months. I'd guess it was a stopover for his wife till he could find her the SUV she wanted.
Kawh I guess even more since in a previous video he said the front bumper was damaged by snow a year earlier
So he lost like 2100 dollars on it in 6 months hahahaha don't buy jag kids
روي جابر بن عبد الله رضي الله عنهما: أن رسول الله محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، قال: «رحم الله رجلاً سمحا إذا باع، وإذا كان، وإذا اقتضى»
This is a saying of Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him
I heard a man narrate from Uthman bin Affan from the Prophet PBUH who said: `A man was easy-going when buying and selling, and when paying his dues and asking for what he was owe then he will enter Paradise.”
That feeling of making use of someone's need to sell something or ripping him off is discouraged in Islam
"I wont go above 2k, I'm really firm at that 1900" wtf is wrong with you 😂😂
That’s how negotiation works. That’s what it’s worth, and they both eventually agreed. There’s nothing wrong with him.
@@wakewind4129 The point is, Chris basically said he would pay $2k when he made that statement. Frank should have reminded him of that.
Bill C No, he said _Around_ $2000. $1900 was a perfect representation of what it was worth. Any higher and he would have been taken advantage of, breaking the video guide.
And since this was a video series in which case he technically used more of Frank’s time, Chris compensated him $600 in repairs that was entirely exclusive from the video guide. This series is representative of how buying a used car _Should_ be.
Yeah first he said most I can do is $2k, then changes it to $1900. Wth.
This man is a professional finneser
I can't thank you enough this series of videos, I just bought my first manual car, thank you chris, love ya :)
Awesome! Congrats! What did you get?
Legit died of Laughter listening to Chris drop to $1500 and Frank's soul dying when he agreed for $1900
Just giving the owner of the car a class on inspecting his own car
Hi
A key thing that you said was about not getting emotional. Sympathy for the owner and fear of losing the car is a mistake in negotiations.
Exactly! Well said!
Hey - any ideas on where to go to get financing on a used car that doesnt rip you off. Geeze am having a hard time
Try going directly to the bank. Sometimes that works better. Financing is tough on cars!
Yea I dont know what the deal is
+chrisfix nice one, by walking away on 2000. He wanted it off his hands asap...
Hey ChrisFix. I just wanna thank you for helping me buy a used car. I bought a 97 Honda Civic coupe back in November and used some of your used car buying techniques. The car is a little rough cosmetically and it’s leaking a bit of oil in the oil pan but that ain’t a big deal cuz I can work with that. This and the Del Sol video really helped me out
WTF did he just get a jaguar with 130k miles for 1900? People near me sell their beaters with higher miles for a greater price.
lamplava Very true!!!!
You need toet those people know that they're delusional
forreal after watching this vid i wish i didn't pay $2500 for my 01 maxima THAT NEEDS WORK!
@@romebowermaster5060 Bruh my 2010 Maxima SV, I paid a lot for and still put 2k more just to get things fixed.
@@jasonjuneau holy crab cakes now that's insane, I only had to fix some minor things and get tires but that would piss me off
Frank: $3000
Me: I will pay you $2000 right now
Frank: $2950 and it's yours
Me: ok *hands over cheque* 😭😭😭
Lmaoo
My dad had a 2003 Jaguar X-Type in dark blue with the manual 2.5. I loved it and we had it for three years. We bought it brand new for 36k so $1,900 is an awesome deal.
lol
When you see that many good computers and TVs cost 1,900 it's an amazing deal
+Amin Naqvi He got this car for $1,900 no way?
+Sushi Wolf yeah didn't you watch till the end
+Sushi Wolf holy piss dude I'm taking you with me next time I buy a car...
I know this is an older video, but I wanted to thank you for all your videos in this little used jaguar buying series. I used your car check list for inspecting and test driving a used car I was interested and it really helped me with making my decision! Lots of content I found was not as helpful as yours, thanks again!
Congrats on the Jag, but you made me cringe during the negotiations. You said don't lowball the seller, but you offered half of his asking price off the bat? BRUTAL! :)
+Chris Freemesser Yea 1,500 is like spitting on his face, I was a bit surprised he didn't get offended :P
+Chris Freemesser In fairness, 3k for the car when it needs about 1k's worth of work means 2k is the realistic sale price for that thing anway.
Then you always start lower again so that theres give and take. The more times you can go back and forth, the more the seller gets to work towards his price, whilst still being in your comfort zone.
And as we saw, clearly the 1900 is good enough for the seller, Chris didn't hassle him (that we saw) for the sale, everyone walks away happy.
+Chris Goodall NADA/KBB both clearly state that the vehicle most definitely WILL have cosmetic and mechanical issues in that condition/price range.
+Bboy RagnarouS obviously you don't know how to negotiate
Chris, my mans, this content is so helpful and eye opening!!! A lot of us have families that don't drive and school doesn't teach us these things and car dealerships are full of shady crooks. I watched all the videos in this series and I really enjoyed how you broke down the information.
Planning to buy my first car and feeling really overwhelmed but feel much better now thanks to you :)
The owner: “ I’ve had my share of people look at this car got some weirdos”
I can’t help but feel that was a shot at Chris 😂😂
"*sighs* i can go 21" Chris: That-That's still a bit too high . BROOO I WOULD TAKE THAT OFFER IN A BREATH
@@loudgoat3067 sympathy doesnt exist does it?
I will do 2 grand. No I want 1.9k... like c'mon now. It's 100 bucks...
Alexis Mandelias its more about the feeling than the money, I do these things to
100 bucks can do a lot for you. You must not understand the importance of money
@@diablotry5447 compared to 2000 bucks, 100 is insignificant. If you want to buy something that costs 20$, a 10$ increase is a lot. However, of you want to buy something that costs 1000$, the same 10$ is a negligible amount to pay
@@alexismandelias 100 bucks is 100 bucks, regardless of context.
@@diablotry5447 if you are buying a 2000$ car (+ all the costs for repairs) it means that you can actually afford to pay this amount. Since you are willing to spend 3k+ on a car, the 100$ shouldn't make much of a difference. To put it in other words, for a poor man 100$ is his weekly salary. For a rich man, 100$ is what his child gets weekly to spend. The context matters. If I offered you 5$ you will, most likely, be like "meh". If I offered the same 5$ to a homeless man he would be extremely grateful.
"always be respectful to the owner when test driving car!" *Does Brake test* ROFL
gotta see if the car flips over and kills us both.
I always do the brake test. If you ask the owner and he / she agrees, what's the problem? In my experience most of the cars I tested have failed the tests ;) It's not dangerous when you're within the speed limit. Brakes fail if the car stops slower than expected or ABS doesn't kick in. Most cars however failed the hard acceleration test. After like 5 test drives I decided to keep my old car, because unlike the cars I tested - it passes all the tests. Yes, I do these tests every time I leave the garage after another repair ;)
Testing the brakes is never a bad idea. Did this on my car once when i suspected the brakes lines may be failing and sure enough they failed. Better that they failed at that moment rather then when i need them.
Yed thats acteuly a thing that evryone needs to do
Soi, soi, soi.
"got some weirdos" u nailed it frank!😂
Haha
@@chrisfix “Haha” As in “wow! I just realized I’M THAT WEIRDO!”
thank you Frank! You're a nice guy and I'm trying to buy a used car and THIS video was very helpful because of your gentlemanly cooperation!
"You don't want to be disrespectful and low-ball the owner"
Immediately low-balls the owner.
oh god a 100 dollar difference thats not a fucking lowball. he has to do 1200 dollars worth of work to it, why would he give him anymore than 1900? its not a fucking camaro its an x type
When he explains why he offered that low and this guy Michael Moss comes along
Michael Moss , Chris checked out the price of the car on 2 websites he uses for valuations , none of them gave a price over $2000 for the condition for this car . If you were told that a car wasn't worth more than $2000 would you be stupid enough to pay more than that price . NO !!! of course you wouldn't .
Michael Moss lmao right
Michael Moss its not low balling if the car has problems that will cost you over 1k plus he said he likes to explain his offer
Wonderful video Chris. I was an auto broker for nearly 2 decades and you are giving out amazing information for free. People are commenting on the fact you low-balled him but in all actuality he was selling a mislabeled car. That 2003 in mint condition wasn't worth even 2,500. In the condition it was in 1,500 was pushing it not to mention the 1,000-1,500 in work it needed. That Ford engine with 130K is also not the most reliable. Great job
plot twist: Frank got the 2nd key and left a tracker under the car. Now he is coming for you and knows where you live. It aint over. :)
Master April for lowballing him lol
Justice!!!
More likely plottwist:
Frank god told off camera that he will get 2100$ he asks for but just on camera has to agree to 1900 for Chris to look good and calm.
Chris, great job on this. I'm actually test driving several potential cars right now, and I would personally add these additions to the test drive:
(1) Practice backing the car up! Get a sense for how well you can visualize your surroundings (especially if it doesn't have a rear camera). Also, since I drive a standard, I want to make sure the reverse gear is distinct from the others. I drove a nice car where reverse & 1st gear were too close for comfort, and rejected it on that basis.
(2) If possible, ascend a steep hill. Does the car struggle? How does the transmission respond under the stress?
(3) Deliberately go over a rough patch or hit a small bump (informing the owner in advance this is a test). Or if you pass by an unpaved road or dirt parking lot, ask if you can take a brief detour there. Get a sense of how it absorbs the bumps, and feels on a less-than-ideal road.
(4) You may have done this without specifically mentioning it, but I politely ask the owner for some intentional moments of non-conversation, specifically to listen to the car. Get a sense for wind/road noise, rattles/squeaks, or anything about the engine that doesn't sound pleasing. Then pick up the conversation again.
Some of the owners actually complemented me for being so thorough. It communicated that I was taking the test drive (and therefore the car) seriously, and I think that was a good unspoken message to convey.
Hope your readers find this helpful.
Props to Frank for being reasonable and friendly... allowing chris to film and not being offended at the low end offer of 1500
old comment but it aint a low ball if the car is overvalued
Watching this after buying a used car... I could've got it a lot cheaper.
That’s why I made the series
onlyflames hi im a first time buyer. I’m going to test drive tomorrow. Do I pay monthly or find an insurance company?
@@_.yvngrich both
Same, I got a good deal but I could have gotten it a bit lower 😔
@@_.yvngrich If you're buying from a private party like someone on Facebook or Craigslist, you need to have the full amount. And, yes, the car always needs to be insured. It's illegal to drive an uninsured car. If you get pulled over you'll lose your car.
Thanks for your advice Chris. I went for my first ever used car inspection today. I used your checklist and the car seemed up to par. I don't know a lot about cars, and it gave me a lot of pointers for what to look for, especially when it came to questioning the owner.
Your test drive advice was especially useful. I only discovered a fault due to your advice to do an emergency brake. I got up to 40 on a clear highway, told him what i was going to do, and went ahead. ABS light lit up and the car skidded round so we turned 90 degrees to the left. I've never been in a skid before, so I was surprised at how calm I remained. The smell of rubber filled the car for the next few minutes.
I like the car, but it raised a serious issue on which I can haggle down the price w.r.t repair costs (those brakes will need some work!!), and I wouldn't have thought to test an emergency stop without your advice, so thank you!!!
the other forza titles look so good compared to fh5 because nobody is able to run fh5 with good fps, max settings made a 50fps difference for me
When negotiating. The one thing i have learnt is to never praise something that needs work. "I love the car but i think your asking too much" the guys got you right there. If you love the car as stands, he's expecting you to take it for that price. Always say that the car is okay, or not too bad, this gives them a sense of false confidence and they quickly rethink their price and are open to a new price.. most of the time
Frank walked with 1900 and treasure trove of knowledge for his next buy.
The problem is I feel awkward while bargaining
Don't feel awkward! When you know exactly what you want to get out of negotiating for a car, just focus on that and you'll make it happen!
@@chrisfix that's motivating thank you
Sree I used to be uncomfortable negotiating too. Once you do it a few times you become a lot better at it.
@@chrisfix Wow, that's a great support from you.
Hopefully I learnt and can apply this technique about negotiating for a used car.
@@chrisfix true that. I’m so awkward and passive aggressive but in the end it’s either they move on to another buyer and forget you or you have a new cheap car
"Don't low ball" asking price is $3000 "I can't really go above 2k" lol
I think he meant it if you know the car is fine and won't need money to fix to be drive able, don't lowball. But since he estimated that the car needs a about $1200 in repairs, and the car is worth $2500 in good condition(no repairs needed) . Than $1500 isn't completely unreasonable. It's an art, man. I personally don't like to lowball, I don't want to disrespect someone. But we have to be logical when buying a used car and know what these cars go for and what needs to be repaired ASAP. Use that as leverage to lower the price. I paid too much for a Lexus SC 400 because I really wanted it, now I'm having to replace rear wheel bearings, hubs and rotors.
Plus here in WA state, they don't care what to paid. They go what the "book" says it's worth. Kind of annoying even when you have a bill of sale.
why dont you?
Estos celos me hacen daño me enloquecen?
+Clorox Bleach Work
Gotta love the people on craigslist who will post a 1996 Honda Accord base with 250,000 miles, asking $5500. lol.....
Don't forget the bondo and rust spots.
+Mozzie yeah... i've seen worse. 1998 honda crv with 390k miles (original engine and transmission) with a little too many dents (not anything minor either) and the owner is asking $3k lol. i have to say though, basically 400k miles is impressive
5 500 $ is way too much. Still, it's better than a 2003 Jaguar with 130 000 miles... But then again, pretty much anything is better than that.
Or when people have a Subaru STI with over 100k miles asking for $16k+
2003 jag with 130k.....in canada this car would easily be worth 5k.
Should have given the guy a flat 2 grand man. he let you make a whole movie about the damn car
iJustFlyDammit Exactly. I feel like he didn't include the filming into the costs...
iJustFlyDammit read the pinned comment...
Kobi Jenkins Ikr
maybe try reading chrisfix's comment he left....
iJustFlyDammit lmfao so true i would done 2100k just cus he was a family man needing a new car
Chris: The horn works.
Chris thinks: I'm definitely about to buy it.
still gotta change that horn fluid tho
I was there
I just got myself a 2020 nissan versa sv. ive been obsessed with watching these kinds of videos. I originally wanted a toyota but this is what i just ended up leaving with, i dropped the gun too fast and jumped on it without seeing what else cars i had to choose from, lol. i'm very grateful though, god is good.
I can't even afford a car what am I doing here
haha same
Get a loan.
blackopssavage do not get a loan. I wouldn’t personally because it’s just not worth the stress of paying back that loan. Just save up, there are plenty of great cars out there under £2000
I got a loan. Just wanted 2k, but the minimum allowed was 3, so i took it. I should have done all this research ahead of time bc i spent damn near a 3rd of it already on other stuff.
Moral of the story. Be smart and proactive
I bought a car without even seeing the car first. It got delivered to my home. Paid 700€ for it. Its worth 2500€. Only problem is one of the cylinders and it likes to eat gas
Hey Chris!
Thank you for your video.
I followed your guidelines and was not only able to find a good car, I made such a good impression on the seller I was able to get a better deal!
You saved me 1000 euro!
He talked this man out of his socks holy shit lmao do you have speaking lessons? Because I need this skill in my arsenal
i don't think it's speaking skills. knowledge beats negotiating tricks everytime. just drop knowledge and don't budge.
the market is just asking price and selling price. his number was 2k, going down to 1.5k and seller asking 3k is a formality. the thing here is that the seller didn't have a number for himself. he's probably just trying to do better than trade-in, which is technically still a number i guess. but chrisfix has way more knowledge.
To level up this skill just keep selling your stuff to the local merchant.
I know, ask me how. - chris fiz
Its the fact that hes a mechanic and knows how shitty doing that work is so he knows his shit
I love this channel, I've already learned so much about buying and fixing cars from Chris' videos, and I've only been subscribed for about a week. This is my favorite channel on youtube right now!
Well chris did give him a free 600 repair on his car which is good plus 1900 so he did indeed pay the 2500 price he printed out.
well he had to make up for his shrewdness somehow.
His remorse made Him compensate Frank
Oh wow! That was cool.
What repair
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*Frank is a cool and kind man*
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It was kinda good offer I mean it needed some fixing
He was stuck with the car because his price was unreasonable. He sold it because he knew that was the very cash in hand he was gonna get without taking a hit from trading it in himself.
You know franks wife had a fight with him that night when he arrived home and told her he sold the car for $1900 instead of the $3000 he was asking for
Plot twist: He lost his job and his wife left him and took the kids. He needed money to get by and only gets $1900
Thank you soo much for this videos. I‘ll do my drivers license soon and you made me fall in love with cars again. I will definetly take your advice for buying my first car. I even thought about buying a car that I can only get back and forth with your tutorials. But don't worry my brother is a mechanic and he would check it again.
Thanks again for all your great videos😊
Thanks a lot!
"Don't lowball." (Offers 1,500$) lol Chris you're the best
+Cam G lowball would be to to trade it for a chewing gum
+Cam G His definition of lowball is pretty damn low then
+Cam G You always set the price above what you'd actually settle for. It's just business. If you go to a used car sale you never buy a car for the posted price, you bargain, make a deal.
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+Marco de la Peña Low ball is making an offer significantly lower than the value of the car. The car needs $1200+ in work if I do it myself. There is a reason why he hasnt sold it, or even got an offer after he had a bunch of people looked at it. His asking price was way too high. If he was at the $2500 it was worth, I would have offered $1900 and came up a little but he was so far away you have to offer a lower price to negotiate in the middle. That is how you buy a car.
I feel like 2,000 was reasonable. He seemed really desperate
yeah especially considering Chris has a successful yt channel and would earn a bit of coin with adsense and all. I feel like with buying and selling cars a small bit of empathy in the interaction doesn't hurt. I would have accepted 2k.
but still, he lied about having more people coming. that's the only reason he waited until the very end to say that he agree
he didn't lie maybe he was telling the truth but trust me after a few offers u just want it over with .
Dylan Smith He was choosing to sell the car. It's called negotiating. And he did an EXCELLENT job.
Why does it matter what Chris's occupation is? Purchasing an item is purchasing an item, the number isn't arbitrary. Would $2100 be reasonable? Up to you. But 1900 is still lower than 2000 and that's how negotiating works. Having an even round number isn't worth $100.
Frank probably watching al these comments and clearly thinking like “damn I should’ve never sold it for that prize”
nope. i bet you he doesnt at all look at youtube comments, see everyone disagree, and think "wow these youtubers are right. They know more about my car than I do."
No Regrets exactly
This entire series is great information. I wish I would have watched this before buying my previous used car. I dare say you can even use these tips when going to a dealership. I, sure they wouldn’t be expecting a knowledgeable and meticulous buyer. Great price. That $100 does make a difference. Ppl here judging you over the $100 obviously don’t work for their money. When buying a used car every dollar counts because you have to invest that much more to get it open running. Thanks again Chris.
chris you forgot one thing never get excited or say you like it or love it before the discussion about buying it because they could make the price depending on your like on the car
Atila Motila but his way of saying "I like jt" actually sounds not very sincere