FordTechMakuloco Hi I know it’s not Ford But I have an 06 Chevy impala LS and it’s about to hit a hundred thousand miles should I change the transmission filter or leave it I don’t know what the previous owner did to the car eater
Any thoughts on the Melling branded roller followers and cam phasers? Also, if you're going to do the roller followers, do you replace the springs and guides as well on spec? My expedition has 150k Miles and I have to do the cam phasers. R/Fs are on the shopping list, but if i'm in there shouldn't i do the springs and guides anyways?
I gave an old friend my old pickup as a wedding present and 3 years later, he said the engine failed. He stated it was a piece of junk and was glad it was towed away to the wrecker. I found out from another friend that in the time he had owned it, he had never added oil or changed the oil. I called the wrecking yard to confirm this and they said when they picked it up, it had no oil. Just shows how some people treat vehicles as if they need no maintenance. No longer my friend.
What a bummer, you even GAVE it to him and he has the balls to say it was a piece of crap, on top of not taking care of it with the cheapest maintenance.
Sounds like my brother,he drove a 93 F-150,300-6, standard without changing the oil for years and it quit running from the oil being so nasty.Add oil go.My 300-6,1977 shortbed 4x4,we cut 54 loads of wood from a permit for the National Forest ATV trails,they were dragged and piled through sandstone and if you don't chip the bark you were sharpening every cut,we cut them into 6' length and stood up and get on flat bed and split them with a monster maul in the woods.
I know how you feel. My brother complained of a ticking sound coming from his engine. I thought it was a noisy lifter. I pulled the dipstick, and there was just the slightest sliver of oil on it. With my brother standing there I poured a quart of oil in it with it running. The ticking disappeared in about ten seconds. I asked him when was the last time he had the oil changed. He mumbled "I dunno, maybe a year ago?" Some people are just clueless, lazy, or just plain dumb.
What an idiot and ingrate! I have a 2000 Ford F-150 that unfortunately has lots of wear from being a landscaper's vehicle. Ignition parts and flywheel are worn, but the engine purrs because the former owner was diligent about frequent oil change with good quality synthetic oil. I got another 2 years out of it, but I think I need to sell it to a mechanic who can fix the bad flywheel themselves. Too expensive to take it to a shop. I wish I could afford to fix, I love this truck and it's got $800 tires, new fuel injectors, coils, spark plugs, but it still needs something. Most likely needs cat converter, maybe the fuel pump is bad and/or there's a vacuum leak.
I could watch carnage like this all day! I just started using your channel in my auto class so my students can see real world situations and failures. Great videos and thanks for taking the time to put them together.
Just had timing job done on my 2009 F150 FX4 with 271xxx miles on it. Still had all factory parts inside. Guides were slightly worn but not busted, the VCT solenoids still had screens and clean. Changed all the roller followers and lash adjusters. Of the 24 roller followers, 4 were failed but not seized, another 6 were rough rolling. Engine wasn't wasn't gunked up inside. Just keep the oil changed and serviced. Been using 5w-30 for a long while. Let's go another 270k!
How did you get someone to explain the benefits of 5W-30 oil, when factory spec'd is 5W-20? I know brian/fordtechmakuloco advises this, but getting him to explain *WHY*, requires an act of congress.
@@garrettstevensen2467 He explains it in a previous video, but the name of the original video escapes me probly like 5ish years ago. Here is the one mention I found more recently from the master himself ruclips.net/video/nQVKnd2r-ww/видео.html . My bad summary of the other video is that Ford specs 5w30 in canada for the 5.4 3v but in the USA we got 5w20 because to meet CAFE...so it is factory spec and if it makes you feel better get an oil cap from Canada. The factory oil pump has notoriously low pressure when warm (ruclips.net/video/S7VcYQj7tT0/видео.html ), so changing protects your VCT system keeping flow up as it is at the end of the oiling system (passenger bank). When it comes to a 5.4, there is no one more knowledgeable in my experience and you won't go wrong listening to Brian. I am almost at 100k on mine and I am going to make the trip halfway across the country just to get the master...
@@kylejohnson5876 Just in labor I paid $786 for the timing set, $325 for roller followers/lash adjusters, $91 to replace the oil filter/coolant housing gasket. I supplied all the parts. But all the credit goes to Fordtechmakuloco. Without him and his vids I would have gotten bent over at the dealership.
every repair I have done to my 2005 f150 this guy was bang on and saved me a lot of time . I had searched the web a couple of years ago for as I have the same noise , all I could find was cam phasers and fuel injection problems. just checked the noise again with a scope and it is coming directly from cylinder three. thanks for all of your great help.
This just happened to me at 119,000 miles. Maintenance was exactly according to manual. Roller follower came off, broke valve that dropped into #3 cyl. $7k for replacement
@@pantherplatform if you have a Ford, try to use the Motorcraft filter on it. They actually are better, and they used to actually be cheaper than the Fram/Purolator bullsh*t back when you could buy them at Wal-Mart.
@@sidviscous5959 I have a 2001 Lincoln LS which uses the Motorcraft FL-400S filter. I've been buying them at Walmart for the past several years, but last time I was there, there were very few Motorcraft filters on the shelf.
This is the most animated commentary you've provided in your videos yet. The amazement of the destruction is great, even though you have been working on these vehicles for years. Maybe this is sign of things to come for your business, and these engines are going to continue to implode more and more dramatically. Nice work.
These 3 valve engines can be a headache but your videos and instructions on diagnosis and repairs make them easier to own. Me and my family sincerely thank you. Please keep the tips coming.
Great job on the 5.4 Triton videos, Brian. They're so very informative and well described. It's clear your skills are top notch, both as a mechanic and as an instructor. I have to admit I had my doubts about being able to overhaul the timing and valvetrain on my 2006 Mark LT 4x4 with 148,000 miles. But since watching more than a dozen videos so far regarding the cam phasers, VCT Solenoids, timing chains/guides, tensioners, oil pump, roller followers, etc., I'm ready to tackle it head-on and save a ton of money I simply cannot afford to spend on labor. Your videos have made all the difference, and I look forward to getting started. Thank you. Ted Marshall Sanford, FL
I had 280000 on a 2005 f150 ran great till passenger side phasers failed and chain guides, I think it was a great engine just missed a few design flaws, oil delivery seems to be the issue.
@@stevepoynter6071 I've got an '04 3V that I've owned since new. 120K (it's a vacation vehicle) and it runs superb. Looks new, too...it sits in the garage waiting for the next road trip. I switched from 5W20 to 5W30 at around 50K...it seems to like the thinner oil better. No problems...I change it every 5000mi. Full synthetic.
I was in my 5.4 3v last January for a timing changeout and what I learned is as long as you put synthetic oil and keep up on maintenance, you won't have failed roller followers. All my followers and lash adjusters were fine. My truck had 135k on it and the motor looked brand new in the valve train. Tensioners failed and noisy phasers were ultimately the reason I was in there in the first place. I think the 5.4 3v is one of the best motors I've ever owned
love my 5.4L 2v 311.859 miles on it never missed an oil changed still sounds the same when i got it has lost some hp over time but still runs good no odd sounds yet rarely used high revs
Years ago I apprenticed under a retired Union Pacific mechanic and his mantra always was: "A part that costs less than $20 will bring down an engine, no matter how big it is or how much it costs, every single time." Of course this guy worked on all the big EMD & GE stuff but he always said his rule applied even to the big engines like that. I have yet to prove him wrong. Rest in peace Mark Mitchell. You are not forgotten. Also been seeing some of these failures on U-Haul V10 applications that I work on. Always the right bank, usually cylinders 3 or 4.
Thanks Brian for a the enlightening video. Between the video and commentary you make these hard jobs easy. Because of you I was able to replace a single cam follower on our 2007, F150, 5.4 Triton cylinder 8 rear intake valve. Thanks for saving me $7000 and preventing us getting stranded somewhere.
Brian, I want to thank you for your amazing work and videos. This one in particular save me a ruined engine. Long story short, we purchased a 5.4L powered F-350 at auction. Unbeknownst to us the auction company agent had cleared a persistent P0300 check engine light and purposefully muffled the audio to make it seem that the truck had no engine problems. It turned out that the engine had the persistent "tick" that you described in another video. Upon removing the passenger's side valve cover I found that one of the roller rockers had been destroyed and kicked down into an oil return channel. Another roller was seized and on the way out. Needless to say, the cam was trash. We replaced all the upper head components and all you can hear are the injectors ticking. You helped me turn a $7K+ auction nightmare into a working truck. Thank you. I am very grateful.
I am so glad I replaced all the roller followers and lash adjusters when I did my timing. Following your videos of course!! Looks like this engine also has the dreaded broken exhaust stud on cylinder 1.
I owe FordTech Makuloco a plug and an apology on the 5.4. I disagreed with FordTech in the discussion on another channel concerning the 5.4. The other channel guy replaces the 5.4 quite eagerly. Mine had 270,000 miles in an 01 F250 2V. I had for sure a bad intake gasket, suspected a cracked intake, likely bad valve cover gaskets, and what appeared to be oil droplets in the coolant. They were dispersed and floating around, not a film. My view was that at this age, it was time to do the engine swap without waiting for a final failure. The truck is still a good truck, and looks great. The theory being that I wouldn't have all the repetitive labor cost and struggles, and could have the truck ready for another quarter million miles for a fraction of its replacement cost. For instance, if I had a bad head gasket as well that would have been beyond my ability. He has a video on the head gasket that took , I think, about 28 hours in his work station, 3v. Makuloco urged to never throw away a running 5.4 without replacing a known bad intake gasket. I watched his video on the intake gasket several times, took notes, and did the job without opening the manual. I did it in the back yard by myself. It took a few days of doing all I could take at a time. Definitely the physically hardest job I've done on a car myself. Didn't find a crack so I used the old manifold, which may not have been wise, but it worked out. When cleaned up, there was no oil leak at the valve covers evident. Flushing the coolant led me to doubt the oil in coolant fear, no separate line in samples or the pan, so I decided that upon restart, if the coolant was getting the droplets again, I would have the oil filter adapter gasket changed if it was oil. I tried more than once to get at the adapter, and decided that was not a project for the backyard on the ground. The results were that the truck runs exactly as I would have expected had I changed the engine and 5sd ZF. It had blown a coil a month later, and I had to learn how to deal with those as well. I was concerned over the old manifold until I learned the coil diagnoses. I can tell you that Torgue Pro displays mode 6 under its test results section, and if you learn how to read Tpro mode 6 for misfires, the coils are not very hard to diagnose, just be patient till you have it down. Also, the Denso coil I ordered from that rocky website was marked US made. I've since heard that an ignition line was recently added at a Denso plant in Tennessee. The truck was put back on the road in early April after sitting nearly a year. It runs great, the coolant stays clean, oil looks right. I can't pass on a US made Denso coil for $30 shipped, so that's solved too. Without Makuloco's input, the truck would still be sitting. Now, if I could just get it back from my son, who didn't even help with it, I'd have a really great truck! Thanks Makuloco!
Excuse name and pfp My mother has a 2004 crown victoria LX with the 4.6 NA v8 engine It has a vaccum leak on the intake gasket inbetween cyl 5 and 6, car still runs and drives amazingly and the leak just makes a whining noise but enough to make the O2 sensor flip out I am going to replace it one of these days because i have the REPAIR manual, i also ask that you make a video on the thermal resistor assembly for the AC and the Temp blend door because it went bad 1 question about parts. Aftermarket or genuine? Which is best? And please make a video about the intake manifold too as i wish to see your point of view as the manual i am still deciphering because haynes puts the disassembly information spread out through multiple chapters and the thermal resistors is different than my moms LX I hope you can help me and good job to you two
2004 5.4 with 230,000 miles. It rattles on startup like even old pushrod engines do but it quiets down and runs great. Never had any issues with spark plugs, cam phazors, or anything else on it.
@@Bartonovich52 you probably have a problem with your phazers, if you took care of your engine they didn't become a problem till you are off warranty. If you do have the phazer problem just put in a phaser lock kit in and it will keep running for years.
I replaced all of mine on the passenger side (along with the middle 6 lifters) at around 265,000 when one of the rollers failed. I'm up to 349,000 and the motor is still running.
@@JavierSN95 I did NOT remove the front cover, I used a timing chain locking wedge to hold the tensioner, then unbolted the cam gear (leaving it in place) and removed the camshaft.
I just started watching your videos and they are great! Very detailed and helpful. I have a 01 Ford Ranger 4.0 4x4 XLT and I think its time for an engine rebuild. With your video I stumbled upon , I think will give me the confidence to do myself! Keep the great videos coming, you have a new follower!
I HAVE NEVER seen any pan carnage like that in my 50 yrs of wrenching!............i couldn't begin to count the lockups i have had that MUST rotate to remove those pesky converter bolt. piston pieces and rod chunks are normal but that view of the garbage in your pan was epic. that view up thru the cyl. was also very artsy! loved the empty valve guide left as a clue...................
Yea, I have 2 co workers who have vehicles with these 3V engines, who take care of them. They both had the random spark plug shooting out of the cylinders. They torqued to spec even. Not the best designed engine for explorer, mustang, etc
Is it just me, or is that block cracked too? When he's looking inside it from underneath, looks like there's a big ass crack from the cylinder bore all the way down to the main cap.
I had the same issue on 2005 F-150. I replaced follower before failure. Timing chain tensioners were also broken with pieces in the oil pan. That was 70k miles ago...still running.
Kudos to you for your consistently excellent videos. Well thought out, great video editing, great video pictures, great explanations, great everything! I have never seen one of your videos where I just thought well that was kind of okay. Kind of reminds me of Richpin who I am also a fan of. At any rate thanks for your continuing great video work, and the best of the holiday season and the new year and good health to you and your family!
I'm currently working on my own 5.4 3v and I replaced the rollers and the timing chain but I still got a ticking sound but I think its the exhaust manifold that is leaking or could it be something else.
There are so many of these rattle traps around i must take a moment to thank ford for their insolence... Thank-you Ford Motor Company, you have guaranteed my employment for years to come! :)
I watched this video while I was in the process of doing a complete timing job on my 5.4 3V. I had all the roller followers out so I checked them all more carefully. Sure enough, one of the intake followers from the No 3 cylinder was worn more than all the others so I changed them all out to the newer style with the smaller oil hole.
I'm famliar with this engine, having worked as a temp lab tech, at the Eaton engine lab, in Michigan. There was a case of a roller rocker falling out of place. The rockers are held in place by the valve spring pressure. This particular situation happened in Alaska, I believe. They replicated the failure in the walk in cold chamber, goes down to 40 below,F. Condensation created an icicle that held up the rocker, so when the lobe went to base circle, the rocker just fell out. I did quite a few tests with valve trains in this type of engine. I now have a 98 F150 with the 5.4, 220000 miles, runs smooth as silk, but I'll be monitoring it for this problem.
In short word, this engine got a design flaw. Oil doesn't get to this roller enough so it fail. The worst is it could be fix by adding an extra pipe that rerout the oil to end on top of the roller...
That's some good information you have shared! If I was replacing the Roller Follower I think I would go ahead and replace them all while I had the thing apart.
This is what you get from engineers who don't care about long term durability. They probably didn't even think about the cascade of problems when one small vulnerable part fails.
@Baron Marseille you really have no idea HOW BAD these 5.4s are do you??? Even car wizard made a video on it. They all build up sludge in the top no matter if you change the oil on time. Not saying no toyota ever dies, but these die ALL THE TIME and have SERIOUS design flaws. Even people like me who CAN'T GET THEM in my country know they're crap engines because of the hundreds of videos on this type of engine.
My 3.5 edge will go to scrap yard when water pump goes out. Probably not even going to change the spark plugs as they make it so difficult to access them.
We had a Russian Chief engineer on an ice-breaking supply bolt who 'forgot' to install the valve spring keepers when re-building a a 4-valve head on a V-20 Nohab Polar diesel engine. It had two 1,100mm diameter turbochargers, each pressurizing a common air trunk, one for each bank of pistons. Inevitably, the 4 valves got sucked into the cylinder bore, and beat themselves to death. Bits of the valves found their way into the adjacent cylinders and were finally ejected through the turbo-charger. Now unbalanced at 30,000 rpm, it flung itself all over the engine room. A valve was embedded in the top of the piston. Wild.
Nice vid man! Thank you! I have a 5.4 with 165,000 and runs amazing with msd street cop’s and mobile 1 synthetic. This will definitely help and I will know what to maintain in the head now to keep going.
These are good engines. You must keep the oil changed on them. I have seen them with 300xxx thous miles running strong. We just changed the oil at 3000 miles. Any brand engine will fail with no oil.
I bought a 98 F-150 that when I put a can of Seafoam in another cylinder quit firing,he said it had a slight miss, and when I took the 2nd one from the front left side it was brand new plug with the gap complete closed,no way it was firing,had the repair threads came out with the plug, they never used the tool to expand it so it doesn't go to far into the cylinder,my guess, I never had a head off so I could only guess, I didn't take the one on drivers side out, I got rid of the truck.It had 2 tone leather seats and was a special edition.It was loud because of the manifolds studs to pipe were bad. I had a 2000 Lincoln with the 4.6.Only 2nd owner,60,000.16 years old only driven to the store and back.Ex is still driving it, only replaced the fuel pump and filter. thanks
I don't know about Ford plants, I worked in GM, Chrysler, Honda and 2 different Toyota plants, when I went to 4&6 cylinder engine plant half the floor,6 cylinder was still gravel,no engine machines except the drag conveyor we welded together and put in the floor first.It took the cuttings and oil to a tank that separate and recycle.Every weld was tested. I went back the following year to do the drag conveyor for the 6-cylinder.1998&99. I did a lot a work in their, the engine line only last 7 years. I set the new final assembly beside the old one so they could practice until they shut down to take the old one out and put the new one in, I put 44 marks on the floor for the tool post and 1 was off 3mm, I told the supervisor and he said it would be alright and I came in the next day and the Japanese engineer marked on the chalk board for me to fix the 3mm mark that was off,he checked it after we went home for the day.
Been following your videos since I started to have oil problems out you my 5.4 tore everything down and found that my chain guides were gone. So I'm doing a full timing set , oil pump ect. I was debating about doing the roller followers to since they are coming off any ways. This just convinced me to do it.
Proper maintenance makes all the difference in the world for any engine. These engines are more sensitive to infrequent intervals but they do last when taken care of. My 5.4 F150 has 320k miles on it and still running strong.
That says nothing. The 4.5 when maintained is still one of the most reliable engines on the road. Alot are being fixed but you leave out the fact that Ford sells far more trucks than Chevy and dodge put together hands down. There's no competition on which make is the most reliable. Even more so with Chrysler after fiat stated destroying them as if they could be worse than they already were in terms of reliability. Fiat put the cherry on the cake with that make.
As an Auto Repair Tech, I cringe when these come in the shop.... i LOVE your channel, as it has saved my bacon more than once!! i believe that you are more expert at these engines than the engineers who build them! Thanks for your most informative videos!!!
When I was about 8, I remember driving down the freeway in our Dodge truck that my step dad and his friend had just finished rebuilding the engine in...and all of a sudden BOOM! The boom was followed by what sounded like a bag of 1" ball bearings bouncing around under the hood...turned out they had gotten the timing wrong and it threw a rod which ended up causing severe engine destruction. After that they got an 84 Honda Accord...great car by the way.
My auto technology teacher taught me to remove the spark plug and pressurize the cylinder with an air hose to prevent the valve from dropping if the keepers pop out for some reason. Great trick that works like a charm
At 80k I had 3 second rattle. I wasn't taking any chances. I went ahead and replaced followers, valve lashes along with timing chain, tensioners, VCT, water pump and oil pump.
@@w-dad4040 ... it sounds astronomical. But if it did come out to $1000 or even $2000. That's still better than $4000 for a new engine plus labor. And with an improved oil pump, it will definitely last 400,000 miles or more. Just saying...
@Pilot Forever Question: Were you using "High Mileage" conventional oil before the change? Some "High Mileage" oils have conditioners in them that cause seals/gaskets to swell, if you switched to an oil that didn't this could cause the seals/gaskets that were swollen to shrink and then start leaking. I've run full synthetic in my 2004 NBS F150 for most of its 210k miles and it really only leaks a couple drips of oil here and there, now power steering fluid OTOH, it leaks excessively.
3000 miles for an oil change? Wow, that would mean 10 oilchanges each year for me. Why do people in the US change oil so often compared to what is considered normal in Europe? 10k to 15k are normal intervals here without a lot of issues, is the oil quality different or are the engines constructed differently?
@Pilot Forever Tens of millions of people drive around with full synthetic oil everyday without leaks. If yours are leaking, then your seals must be worn and hard. No oil in the world will fix that. Now please don't tell me you 100% maintained your trucks and they were perfect until the oil change.
They had similar cam followers on 2.3 4 bangers back in 1974. I bought a 5 year old Mustang II for a $200 bucks because a failed follower dropped a valve and killed the engine . Crazy it still happens.
All companies put cheap parts in their engines. But you are right in this case, they shouldn’t have used such a cheap part for such a crucial component.
And exactly how much do you think the parts in Chevys cost? What about the Aveo that has all the pipes from the air cleaner to the manifold just flake away after 3 YEARS OLD.... or the glorious "bucket lifters" they use. Non adjustable valve lashes, just a bunch of steel cups you've got to spend ages changing around. Or the escalades with the dashboard that's like half a wheelie bin, and about as strong as a wheelie bin cut in half. Shaking itself to death on rough roads....
Link Knight what did they have valve buckets like motorcycles have but without the shims? Cause I know in most modern dirt and sport bikes they have valve buckets but with a shim that sits between the bucket and the spring retainer
that's insane my 2012 navigator had that exact roller follower failed took me two hours and like 50 bucks to replace it after buying new valve cover gasket and follower tool.
A $40 oil analysis could have detected the problem early on. Sad that so many auto techs are untrained on the benefits and diagnosis. Owners can easily sample the oil and send it into a lab.
My wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee started making a ticking sound, I took it to the local Toyota dealer because they actually had a shop, the mechanic said oh don’t mind that ticking sounds it’s normal, haha I’m not an idiot i have been in the trade industry for 15 years, anyway I knew it was a roller bearing and I ended up taking it to the Jeep place a town over and they fixed it right up 👍🏻 cheap part, major damage if not repaired
I've seen a handful of 5.4 3V engines with failed roller followers on #3 cylinder as well. Any ideas why this cylinder seems to have more failures than the others?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's something to do with the oil galleries in the engine block. Maybe there the slightest bit smaller or it's the last place that the oil goes to for some reason. Regardless it's a pretty crappy design, anything mechanical should be designed to fail safe. As in the followers should pop out, that can happen on a few of the Chrysler engines. But you just lose valve actuation at that point, it doesn't end up dropping the valve into the engine and destroying. I'm sure proper maintenance would reduce the amount of time that this happens, but overall it's probably a crappy design... Considering the two valve Motors don't suffer from this problem.
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They were drag racing 😊 down hwy 287.
I had this same failure dire same reason but not as catastrophic
FordTechMakuloco
Hi I know it’s not Ford
But I have an 06 Chevy impala LS and it’s about to hit a hundred thousand miles should I change the transmission filter or leave it I don’t know what the previous owner did to the car eater
Any thoughts on the Melling branded roller followers and cam phasers? Also, if you're going to do the roller followers, do you replace the springs and guides as well on spec? My expedition has 150k Miles and I have to do the cam phasers. R/Fs are on the shopping list, but if i'm in there shouldn't i do the springs and guides anyways?
Do you have any idea what's causing this noise in my 3.5?
I haven't seen any roller followers for $4 all the ones i've priced have been around $16 each
I gave an old friend my old pickup as a wedding present and 3 years later, he said the engine failed. He stated it was a piece of junk and was glad it was towed away to the wrecker.
I found out from another friend that in the time he had owned it, he had never added oil or changed the oil. I called the wrecking yard to confirm this and they said when they picked it up, it had no oil.
Just shows how some people treat vehicles as if they need no maintenance.
No longer my friend.
What a bummer, you even GAVE it to him and he has the balls to say it was a piece of crap, on top of not taking care of it with the cheapest maintenance.
Sounds like my brother,he drove a 93 F-150,300-6, standard without changing the oil for years and it quit running from the oil being so nasty.Add oil go.My 300-6,1977 shortbed 4x4,we cut 54 loads of wood from a permit for the National Forest ATV trails,they were dragged and piled through sandstone and if you don't chip the bark you were sharpening every cut,we cut them into 6' length and stood up and get on flat bed and split them with a monster maul in the woods.
Unfortunate... i would be upset ...
I know how you feel. My brother complained of a ticking sound coming from his engine. I thought it was a noisy lifter. I pulled the dipstick, and there was just the slightest sliver of oil on it. With my brother standing there I poured a quart of oil in it with it running. The ticking disappeared in about ten seconds. I asked him when was the last time he had the oil changed. He mumbled "I dunno, maybe a year ago?" Some people are just clueless, lazy, or just plain dumb.
What an idiot and ingrate! I have a 2000 Ford F-150 that unfortunately has lots of wear from being a landscaper's vehicle. Ignition parts and flywheel are worn, but the engine purrs because the former owner was diligent about frequent oil change with good quality synthetic oil. I got another 2 years out of it, but I think I need to sell it to a mechanic who can fix the bad flywheel themselves. Too expensive to take it to a shop. I wish I could afford to fix, I love this truck and it's got $800 tires, new fuel injectors, coils, spark plugs, but it still needs something. Most likely needs cat converter, maybe the fuel pump is bad and/or there's a vacuum leak.
Knock knock
Who's there?
Cylinder 3
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nice!
The piston bashing into the head repeatedly should have been a warning. Once the piston disintegrated it was over.
Ouch.
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I could watch carnage like this all day! I just started using your channel in my auto class so my students can see real world situations and failures. Great videos and thanks for taking the time to put them together.
HOLY CRAP😳 I thought the thumbnail was click bait. That looked like a metal murder scene.
Who else doesn't have half these issues but just watches to be informed. Your the man Brian, love your explanations.
I don't even own a Ford! I still watch.
Have a 2005 F150 4.6 with none of the issues. But I like knowing what’s going on the other side.
Yeah. Just sitting here with Vortec L59.
But for the grace of God....go I......(you said it brother)....
So far, I've only done the timing job.
Just had timing job done on my 2009 F150 FX4 with 271xxx miles on it. Still had all factory parts inside. Guides were slightly worn but not busted, the VCT solenoids still had screens and clean. Changed all the roller followers and lash adjusters. Of the 24 roller followers, 4 were failed but not seized, another 6 were rough rolling. Engine wasn't wasn't gunked up inside. Just keep the oil changed and serviced. Been using 5w-30 for a long while. Let's go another 270k!
Sweet!
How did you get someone to explain the benefits of 5W-30 oil, when factory spec'd is 5W-20? I know brian/fordtechmakuloco advises this, but getting him to explain *WHY*, requires an act of congress.
@@garrettstevensen2467 He explains it in a previous video, but the name of the original video escapes me probly like 5ish years ago. Here is the one mention I found more recently from the master himself ruclips.net/video/nQVKnd2r-ww/видео.html . My bad summary of the other video is that Ford specs 5w30 in canada for the 5.4 3v but in the USA we got 5w20 because to meet CAFE...so it is factory spec and if it makes you feel better get an oil cap from Canada. The factory oil pump has notoriously low pressure when warm (ruclips.net/video/S7VcYQj7tT0/видео.html ), so changing protects your VCT system keeping flow up as it is at the end of the oiling system (passenger bank). When it comes to a 5.4, there is no one more knowledgeable in my experience and you won't go wrong listening to Brian. I am almost at 100k on mine and I am going to make the trip halfway across the country just to get the master...
What did the timing job cost you?
@@kylejohnson5876 Just in labor I paid $786 for the timing set, $325 for roller followers/lash adjusters, $91 to replace the oil filter/coolant housing gasket. I supplied all the parts. But all the credit goes to Fordtechmakuloco. Without him and his vids I would have gotten bent over at the dealership.
every repair I have done to my 2005 f150 this guy was bang on and saved me a lot of time . I had searched the web a couple of years ago for as I have the same noise , all I could find was cam phasers and fuel injection problems. just checked the noise again with a scope and it is coming directly from cylinder three. thanks for all of your great help.
This just happened to me at 119,000 miles. Maintenance was exactly according to manual. Roller follower came off, broke valve that dropped into #3 cyl. $7k for replacement
But was it making noise before it blew?
nice job ignoring it
@@robs4517 yes
You are not just a mechanic. You are a preacher...a positive motivational force of good in the universe...
Too much?...
I try to help in any way possible by spreading the word.
Noopee, that is the right amount! Now say something like that about me and make much. 😊
@@pantherplatform if you have a Ford, try to use the Motorcraft filter on it. They actually are better, and they used to actually be cheaper than the Fram/Purolator bullsh*t back when you could buy them at Wal-Mart.
@@sidviscous5959 I have a 2001 Lincoln LS which uses the Motorcraft FL-400S filter. I've been buying them at Walmart for the past several years, but last time I was there, there were very few Motorcraft filters on the shelf.
This is the most animated commentary you've provided in your videos yet. The amazement of the destruction is great, even though you have been working on these vehicles for years. Maybe this is sign of things to come for your business, and these engines are going to continue to implode more and more dramatically. Nice work.
These 3 valve engines can be a headache but your videos and instructions on diagnosis and repairs make them easier to own. Me and my family sincerely thank you. Please keep the tips coming.
Great job on the 5.4 Triton videos, Brian. They're so very informative and well described. It's clear your skills are top notch, both as a mechanic and as an instructor. I have to admit I had my doubts about being able to overhaul the timing and valvetrain on my 2006 Mark LT 4x4 with 148,000 miles. But since watching more than a dozen videos so far regarding the cam phasers, VCT Solenoids, timing chains/guides, tensioners, oil pump, roller followers, etc., I'm ready to tackle it head-on and save a ton of money I simply cannot afford to spend on labor. Your videos have made all the difference, and I look forward to getting started. Thank you.
Ted Marshall
Sanford, FL
"I was just driving down the road..." They always say that.
😂
Or "Ever since you changed the tail light..."
probably because thats where it usually happens
"Come to think of it I don't think I ever changed the oil in under 15000 miles ever"
You never had me, you never had your car
I have 235,000 and my 5.4-3V sounds great. Good oil changes, often, and low revs.
I had 280000 on a 2005 f150 ran great till passenger side phasers failed and chain guides, I think it was a great engine just missed a few design flaws, oil delivery seems to be the issue.
Do you still use the 5W20 i have a 2007 F150 with 25000 miles i was told to start using 5W30.
Great. Sell it NOW!
@@stevepoynter6071 I've got an '04 3V that I've owned since new. 120K (it's a vacation vehicle) and it runs superb. Looks new, too...it sits in the garage waiting for the next road trip. I switched from 5W20 to 5W30 at around 50K...it seems to like the thinner oil better. No problems...I change it every 5000mi. Full synthetic.
I was in my 5.4 3v last January for a timing changeout and what I learned is as long as you put synthetic oil and keep up on maintenance, you won't have failed roller followers. All my followers and lash adjusters were fine. My truck had 135k on it and the motor looked brand new in the valve train. Tensioners failed and noisy phasers were ultimately the reason I was in there in the first place. I think the 5.4 3v is one of the best motors I've ever owned
Are you putting 5w30 in it?
I use 0W-30 brah, for the winters
Love the sound effect/play by play as you described the parts failing - ping! bye bye! boom! I was rolling
Love these P.S.A's. 👍 Making us all a favor. Thanks, Brian ! 😊
Wow that looks like something you’d see in the NHRA Dragracing
Maybe they were drag racing who knows!
Drag racing a stock SUV....
jon jonsson got to see how fast you can get those groceries 👍
Very rare to happen in top fuel
love my 5.4L 2v 311.859 miles on it never missed an oil changed still sounds the same when i got it has lost some hp over time but still runs good no odd sounds yet rarely used high revs
Good to see someone understands FOCAL POINT; your images are always sharp, right down to the shavings
Years ago I apprenticed under a retired Union Pacific mechanic and his mantra always was:
"A part that costs less than $20 will bring down an engine, no matter how big it is or how much it costs, every single time."
Of course this guy worked on all the big EMD & GE stuff but he always said his rule applied even to the big engines like that. I have yet to prove him wrong.
Rest in peace Mark Mitchell. You are not forgotten.
Also been seeing some of these failures on U-Haul V10 applications that I work on. Always the right bank, usually cylinders 3 or 4.
Thanks Brian for a the enlightening video. Between the video and commentary you make these hard jobs easy. Because of you I was able to replace a single cam follower on our 2007, F150, 5.4 Triton cylinder 8 rear intake valve. Thanks for saving me $7000 and preventing us getting stranded somewhere.
Brian, I want to thank you for your amazing work and videos. This one in particular save me a ruined engine.
Long story short, we purchased a 5.4L powered F-350 at auction. Unbeknownst to us the auction company agent had cleared a persistent P0300 check engine light and purposefully muffled the audio to make it seem that the truck had no engine problems.
It turned out that the engine had the persistent "tick" that you described in another video. Upon removing the passenger's side valve cover I found that one of the roller rockers had been destroyed and kicked down into an oil return channel. Another roller was seized and on the way out. Needless to say, the cam was trash. We replaced all the upper head components and all you can hear are the injectors ticking.
You helped me turn a $7K+ auction nightmare into a working truck.
Thank you. I am very grateful.
A Ford 5.4 L three valve engine destroys itself. It's a good thing I was sitting down, otherwise the shock might have killed me
Kevin Barry the sarcasm is strong with this one
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johnny Macon Sorry must have bumped keypad by mistake
I have two of the 4v type and the 2v type as well no problems it is just the 3v type of problem
😂🤣💢😆
I am so glad I replaced all the roller followers and lash adjusters when I did my timing. Following your videos of course!! Looks like this engine also has the dreaded broken exhaust stud on cylinder 1.
1000 more hours of watching and I can say I’ve graduated RUclips university…thanks for all the information!
Your videos have been a great help! The examples (sounds) and tips you have given have really helped me tremendously!
Fire in the hole, Talk about a grenade!
Even though I don't purchase Ford vehicles, you are an Excellent Technician! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, insight, and time with us!
Video maker/mechanic combo, dude you’re the best
Great story and great video quality with no wasted time.
I owe FordTech Makuloco a plug and an apology on the 5.4.
I disagreed with FordTech in the discussion on another channel concerning the 5.4. The other channel guy replaces the 5.4 quite eagerly. Mine had 270,000 miles in an 01 F250 2V. I had for sure a bad intake gasket, suspected a cracked intake, likely bad valve cover gaskets, and what appeared to be oil droplets in the coolant. They were dispersed and floating around, not a film. My view was that at this age, it was time to do the engine swap without waiting for a final failure. The truck is still a good truck, and looks great. The theory being that I wouldn't have all the repetitive labor cost and struggles, and could have the truck ready for another quarter million miles for a fraction of its replacement cost. For instance, if I had a bad head gasket as well that would have been beyond my ability. He has a video on the head gasket that took , I think, about 28 hours in his work station, 3v.
Makuloco urged to never throw away a running 5.4 without replacing a known bad intake gasket. I watched his video on the intake gasket several times, took notes, and did the job without opening the manual. I did it in the back yard by myself. It took a few days of doing all I could take at a time. Definitely the physically hardest job I've done on a car myself. Didn't find a crack so I used the old manifold, which may not have been wise, but it worked out. When cleaned up, there was no oil leak at the valve covers evident. Flushing the coolant led me to doubt the oil in coolant fear, no separate line in samples or the pan, so I decided that upon restart, if the coolant was getting the droplets again, I would have the oil filter adapter gasket changed if it was oil. I tried more than once to get at the adapter, and decided that was not a project for the backyard on the ground.
The results were that the truck runs exactly as I would have expected had I changed the engine and 5sd ZF. It had blown a coil a month later, and I had to learn how to deal with those as well. I was concerned over the old manifold until I learned the coil diagnoses. I can tell you that Torgue Pro displays mode 6 under its test results section, and if you learn how to read Tpro mode 6 for misfires, the coils are not very hard to diagnose, just be patient till you have it down. Also, the Denso coil I ordered from that rocky website was marked US made. I've since heard that an ignition line was recently added at a Denso plant in Tennessee.
The truck was put back on the road in early April after sitting nearly a year. It runs great, the coolant stays clean, oil looks right. I can't pass on a US made Denso coil for $30 shipped, so that's solved too.
Without Makuloco's input, the truck would still be sitting. Now, if I could just get it back from my son, who didn't even help with it, I'd have a really great truck!
Thanks Makuloco!
Excuse name and pfp
My mother has a 2004 crown victoria LX with the 4.6 NA v8 engine
It has a vaccum leak on the intake gasket inbetween cyl 5 and 6, car still runs and drives amazingly and the leak just makes a whining noise but enough to make the O2 sensor flip out
I am going to replace it one of these days because i have the REPAIR manual, i also ask that you make a video on the thermal resistor assembly for the AC and the Temp blend door because it went bad
1 question about parts. Aftermarket or genuine?
Which is best?
And please make a video about the intake manifold too as i wish to see your point of view as the manual i am still deciphering because haynes puts the disassembly information spread out through multiple chapters and the thermal resistors is different than my moms LX
I hope you can help me and good job to you two
I need to stop watching these videos. They give me way too much anxiety over my 2010 expy with the 5.4...
My 2007 5.4 has 171,000 and purrs like a kitten. Oil changes at 5,000 miles and I don't beat on it.
Sell it sell it now!
2004 5.4 with 230,000 miles. It rattles on startup like even old pushrod engines do but it quiets down and runs great. Never had any issues with spark plugs, cam phazors, or anything else on it.
Mine has 250K on it. Oil changes religiously and I've been using Mobil 1 10w40.
@@Bartonovich52 you probably have a problem with your phazers, if you took care of your engine they didn't become a problem till you are off warranty. If you do have the phazer problem just put in a phaser lock kit in and it will keep running for years.
Thanks so much for recording the noise!!! Great reference for any engine.
I love the sounf affects to illustrate the damage event!👍
I replaced all of mine on the passenger side (along with the middle 6 lifters) at around 265,000 when one of the rollers failed. I'm up to 349,000 and the motor is still running.
Nice!
To remove then did you just had to remove the valve cover?
@@JavierSN95 obviously, or you cant get to them
@@madmax2069 I'm sorry dude I meant to say the front timing cover
@@JavierSN95 I did NOT remove the front cover, I used a timing chain locking wedge to hold the tensioner, then unbolted the cam gear (leaving it in place) and removed the camshaft.
Holy shit, the coolant pouring out at the end. Incredible.
I just started watching your videos and they are great! Very detailed and helpful. I have a 01 Ford Ranger 4.0 4x4 XLT and I think its time for an engine rebuild. With your video I stumbled upon , I think will give me the confidence to do myself! Keep the great videos coming, you have a new follower!
I HAVE NEVER seen any pan carnage like that in my 50 yrs of wrenching!............i couldn't begin to count the lockups i have had that MUST rotate to remove those pesky converter bolt. piston pieces and rod chunks are normal but that view of the garbage in your pan was epic. that view up thru the cyl. was also very artsy! loved the empty valve guide left as a clue...................
That motor has made you RICH
👍👍
Yea, I have 2 co workers who have vehicles with these 3V engines, who take care of them. They both had the random spark plug shooting out of the cylinders. They torqued to spec even. Not the best designed engine for explorer, mustang, etc
The people with more money than brains gave him a good payday. Thank God for dummies, blinker fluid, muffler bearings and piston return springs !!!
@@jdigitalseven7 3V's dont shoot plugs chief
Is it just me, or is that block cracked too? When he's looking inside it from underneath, looks like there's a big ass crack from the cylinder bore all the way down to the main cap.
Chewed up, I'd say.
Glad I wasn't the only one to spot that
That was a casting line not a crack.
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I noticed that also
I had the same issue on 2005 F-150. I replaced follower before failure. Timing chain tensioners were also broken with pieces in the oil pan. That was 70k miles ago...still running.
Kudos to you for your consistently excellent videos. Well thought out, great video editing, great video pictures, great explanations, great everything! I have never seen one of your videos where I just thought well that was kind of okay. Kind of reminds me of Richpin who I am also a fan of. At any rate thanks for your continuing great video work, and the best of the holiday season and the new year and good health to you and your family!
It makes a noise, so I turned up the volume on the radio, what could possibly go wrong.
I'm currently working on my own 5.4 3v and I replaced the rollers and the timing chain but I still got a ticking sound but I think its the exhaust manifold that is leaking or could it be something else.
Standard operating procedure for a ford.
This is why I don't listen to the radio at all in my car. It's a 2003 WRX so I have to listen for anything and everything lol
😂
Story of my life. 💨💨💨
There are so many of these rattle traps around i must take a moment to thank ford for their insolence... Thank-you Ford Motor Company, you have guaranteed my employment for years to come! :)
Makes you wonder 😂
I watched this video while I was in the process of doing a complete timing job on my 5.4 3V. I had all the roller followers out so I checked them all more carefully. Sure enough, one of the intake followers from the No 3 cylinder was worn more than all the others so I changed them all out to the newer style with the smaller oil hole.
I'm famliar with this engine, having worked as a temp lab tech, at the Eaton engine lab, in Michigan. There was a case of a roller rocker falling out of place. The rockers are held in place by the valve spring pressure. This particular situation happened in Alaska, I believe. They replicated the failure in the walk in cold chamber, goes down to 40 below,F. Condensation created an icicle that held up the rocker, so when the lobe went to base circle, the rocker just fell out. I did quite a few tests with valve trains in this type of engine. I now have a 98 F150 with the 5.4, 220000 miles, runs smooth as silk, but I'll be monitoring it for this problem.
I used to be a ford mechanic and my favorite engine is the 5.3 LS Iron block with no AFM.
5.3 vortec with afm delete is pre much bulletproof.
In short word, this engine got a design flaw. Oil doesn't get to this roller enough so it fail.
The worst is it could be fix by adding an extra pipe that rerout the oil to end on top of the roller...
That's some good information you have shared! If I was replacing the Roller Follower I think I would go ahead and replace them all while I had the thing apart.
yup
The sound FX are awesome.
This is what you get from engineers who don't care about long term durability. They probably didn't even think about the cascade of problems when one small vulnerable part fails.
cylinder block and head are done. it needs a new engine. NO!!! it needs a tow truck to haul it to a salvage yard.
Or to my yard
@Baron Marseille you really have no idea HOW BAD these 5.4s are do you??? Even car wizard made a video on it. They all build up sludge in the top no matter if you change the oil on time. Not saying no toyota ever dies, but these die ALL THE TIME and have SERIOUS design flaws. Even people like me who CAN'T GET THEM in my country know they're crap engines because of the hundreds of videos on this type of engine.
Send it to a machine gun shoot to get what the POS deserves.
My 3.5 edge will go to scrap yard when water pump goes out. Probably not even going to change the spark plugs as they make it so difficult to access them.
*Scrap* yard
We had a Russian Chief engineer on an ice-breaking supply bolt who 'forgot' to install the valve spring keepers when re-building a a 4-valve head on a V-20 Nohab Polar diesel engine. It had two 1,100mm diameter turbochargers, each pressurizing a common air trunk, one for each bank of pistons. Inevitably, the 4 valves got sucked into the cylinder bore, and beat themselves to death. Bits of the valves found their way into the adjacent cylinders and were finally ejected through the turbo-charger. Now unbalanced at 30,000 rpm, it flung itself all over the engine room. A valve was embedded in the top of the piston. Wild.
Nice vid man! Thank you! I have a 5.4 with 165,000 and runs amazing with msd street cop’s and mobile 1 synthetic. This will definitely help and I will know what to maintain in the head now to keep going.
My '69 Bronco is still my daily driver, I guess I don't need to worry about stuff like this.
aahh the good old pushrod OHV engines. as long as regular maintanace is done runs pretty much for ever.
Mike Henry 302.
@@chuckgates1171 Yes, I rebuilt it around 1990 and it has about 90K on that rebuild.
Like I always say, in my opinion old school is better lol
Milage? Didn't know they make em in the 60s
These are good engines. You must keep the oil changed on them. I have seen them with 300xxx thous miles running strong. We just changed the oil at 3000 miles. Any brand engine will fail with no oil.
Not when a $4.00 (factory) part destroys the entire engine. POS.
Correct its all about maintenance but these followers will fail either way eventually. The base engine seems bulletproof though.
@@leonarddaneman810
Sell it.
I bought a 98 F-150 that when I put a can of Seafoam in another cylinder quit firing,he said it had a slight miss, and when I took the 2nd one from the front left side it was brand new plug with the gap complete closed,no way it was firing,had the repair threads came out with the plug, they never used the tool to expand it so it doesn't go to far into the cylinder,my guess, I never had a head off so I could only guess, I didn't take the one on drivers side out, I got rid of the truck.It had 2 tone leather seats and was a special edition.It was loud because of the manifolds studs to pipe were bad. I had a 2000 Lincoln with the 4.6.Only 2nd owner,60,000.16 years old only driven to the store and back.Ex is still driving it, only replaced the fuel pump and filter. thanks
I don't know about Ford plants, I worked in GM, Chrysler, Honda and 2 different Toyota plants, when I went to 4&6 cylinder engine plant half the floor,6 cylinder was still gravel,no engine machines except the drag conveyor we welded together and put in the floor first.It took the cuttings and oil to a tank that separate and recycle.Every weld was tested. I went back the following year to do the drag conveyor for the 6-cylinder.1998&99. I did a lot a work in their, the engine line only last 7 years. I set the new final assembly beside the old one so they could practice until they shut down to take the old one out and put the new one in, I put 44 marks on the floor for the tool post and 1 was off 3mm, I told the supervisor and he said it would be alright and I came in the next day and the Japanese engineer marked on the chalk board for me to fix the 3mm mark that was off,he checked it after we went home for the day.
Been following your videos since I started to have oil problems out you my 5.4 tore everything down and found that my chain guides were gone. So I'm doing a full timing set , oil pump ect. I was debating about doing the roller followers to since they are coming off any ways. This just convinced me to do it.
Love all the sound effects describing what happens.😜
Same cylinder every time? Sounds like an engineering issue to me.
$4 part, $1500 repair bill.
Spot on
This man making a living on these engines says all you need to know. Stay away too many problems.
I owned one of these 5.4 3v . Im so glad I got rid of it.
Proper maintenance makes all the difference in the world for any engine. These engines are more sensitive to infrequent intervals but they do last when taken care of. My 5.4 F150 has 320k miles on it and still running strong.
OZ D1983 ... Please offer an alternative?? I'm curious...
biz4two biz4 Toyota is best bet.
That says nothing. The 4.5 when maintained is still one of the most reliable engines on the road. Alot are being fixed but you leave out the fact that Ford sells far more trucks than Chevy and dodge put together hands down. There's no competition on which make is the most reliable. Even more so with Chrysler after fiat stated destroying them as if they could be worse than they already were in terms of reliability. Fiat put the cherry on the cake with that make.
I wish you were in Massachusetts....you are a good honest ford mechanic......!
As an Auto Repair Tech, I cringe when these come in the shop.... i LOVE your channel, as it has saved my bacon more than once!! i believe that you are more expert at these engines than the engineers who build them! Thanks for your most informative videos!!!
When I was about 8, I remember driving down the freeway in our Dodge truck that my step dad and his friend had just finished rebuilding the engine in...and all of a sudden BOOM! The boom was followed by what sounded like a bag of 1" ball bearings bouncing around under the hood...turned out they had gotten the timing wrong and it threw a rod which ended up causing severe engine destruction. After that they got an 84 Honda Accord...great car by the way.
HAD TO HIT SUB BUTTON ON THAT ONE.
My auto technology teacher taught me to remove the spark plug and pressurize the cylinder with an air hose to prevent the valve from dropping if the keepers pop out for some reason. Great trick that works like a charm
Yup that is how you change out a valve spring with the head still in the car, not exactly a trick just standard procedure.
Thank you for putting the sound of a failed $4 Roller Follower at the 11:30 mark.
At 80k I had 3 second rattle. I wasn't taking any chances. I went ahead and replaced followers, valve lashes along with timing chain, tensioners, VCT, water pump and oil pump.
Was that on the 5.4? Do all the 2/3/4v heads develope the tick since they're all using the same roller/followers?
3V only I believe. 2/4V has different set of issues.
Chain tensioner is cause of 3 second rattle though which leads to a few other major problems with the 5.4 3V.
And the grand total on that preventative maintenance?
@@w-dad4040 ... it sounds astronomical. But if it did come out to $1000 or even $2000. That's still better than $4000 for a new engine plus labor. And with an improved oil pump, it will definitely last 400,000 miles or more. Just saying...
Ooooohhhhh nooo, that’s a lot of coolant. Where’s the oil at?” 😁😁
you could see the oil start flowing eventually, lol
Amazing that little part can cause catastrophic engine failure, just wow!! Liked vid
Thank You for showing me this.
5.4, famous Ford numbers. Really good info Brian.
Another 5.4 3v. If YOU Mr. Tech have kids, their college tuition is already paid 😉😅
Thanks so much for all of your videos.
Nice you help people with good info
This is why I tell my customers to change the oil and filter at 3,000 miles. Use a top quality full synthetic oil and a good quality oil filter.
@Pilot Forever Question: Were you using "High Mileage" conventional oil before the change? Some "High Mileage" oils have conditioners in them that cause seals/gaskets to swell, if you switched to an oil that didn't this could cause the seals/gaskets that were swollen to shrink and then start leaking. I've run full synthetic in my 2004 NBS F150 for most of its 210k miles and it really only leaks a couple drips of oil here and there, now power steering fluid OTOH, it leaks excessively.
@Pilot Forever its from using high mileage oil...then not. Like previous poster said
3000 miles for an oil change? Wow, that would mean 10 oilchanges each year for me.
Why do people in the US change oil so often compared to what is considered normal in Europe? 10k to 15k are normal intervals here without a lot of issues, is the oil quality different or are the engines constructed differently?
@@meeder78 10,000 to 15,000 k is about 6,500 to 9,000 miles. So it would not be 10 a year.
@Pilot Forever
Tens of millions of people drive around with full synthetic oil everyday without leaks. If yours are leaking, then your seals must be worn and hard. No oil in the world will fix that. Now please don't tell me you 100% maintained your trucks and they were perfect until the oil change.
WOW! How loud was the radio? Have to be pretty dang loud to NOT hear that!
Mike Campbell Sure as hell they heard and felt it when it finally went.
Great video!as always!
They had similar cam followers on 2.3 4 bangers back in 1974. I bought a 5 year old Mustang II for a $200 bucks because a failed follower dropped a valve and killed the engine . Crazy it still happens.
Maybe Ford shouldn't be putting $4 part's in their engines :)
All companies put cheap parts in their engines. But you are right in this case, they shouldn’t have used such a cheap part for such a crucial component.
They charge 4 bucks, and a buttload more to replace. Doesn't even cost that much to manufacture.
@@muskokamike127 you haven't seen many Chevys lately have you??? Especially any made in south Korea in the old daewoo factory...
And exactly how much do you think the parts in Chevys cost? What about the Aveo that has all the pipes from the air cleaner to the manifold just flake away after 3 YEARS OLD.... or the glorious "bucket lifters" they use. Non adjustable valve lashes, just a bunch of steel cups you've got to spend ages changing around. Or the escalades with the dashboard that's like half a wheelie bin, and about as strong as a wheelie bin cut in half. Shaking itself to death on rough roads....
Link Knight what did they have valve buckets like motorcycles have but without the shims? Cause I know in most modern dirt and sport bikes they have valve buckets but with a shim that sits between the bucket and the spring retainer
that's insane my 2012 navigator had that exact roller follower failed took me two hours and like 50 bucks to replace it after buying new valve cover gasket and follower tool.
Great video man
I m getting ready to open this 5.4 and I think I gonna replace the followers as well just to be safe at least on number 3 lol
A $40 oil analysis could have detected the problem early on. Sad that so many auto techs are untrained on the benefits and diagnosis. Owners can easily sample the oil and send it into a lab.
212k on my 2V 01 SupeCrew and still going. Thought of "upgrading" to a newer year, no thanks!
Bought a blown one and put an 89Kmile engine in it. Runs great. It's all I need for a truck.
My wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee started making a ticking sound, I took it to the local Toyota dealer because they actually had a shop, the mechanic said oh don’t mind that ticking sounds it’s normal, haha I’m not an idiot i have been in the trade industry for 15 years, anyway I knew it was a roller bearing and I ended up taking it to the Jeep place a town over and they fixed it right up 👍🏻 cheap part, major damage if not repaired
Man your awesome you always crack me up with your words I love it.
Wow. I’m gonna go check my truck immediately
Yup! That could have been saved many miles ago!
I had a 5.4 3v where the exhaust valve tip that broke at the end of the keepers but I shut down right away!! And the I was abel to save the Head!!
Thanks i really enjoy your videos!
These videos make my nervous about my 2001 E150 with the 5.4 engine in it.
Brian that's got to be a first, with a view of the head from that perspective ! From the bottom of the engine, LOL !
That's normal it will buff out hahaha
That's funny.
Probably would with any other Ford gas truck engine. But the effing 3valves are an accident waiting to happen.
@@ranchugoldfish3822 yeah.....
Thanks for the information and entertainment.
Love this channel. I can't help but giggle about the dumb ways fords break
I've seen a handful of 5.4 3V engines with failed roller followers on #3 cylinder as well. Any ideas why this cylinder seems to have more failures than the others?
Good question. Is it farthest from the oil? Is it the first thing to lose lubrication when the engine oil is low?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's something to do with the oil galleries in the engine block.
Maybe there the slightest bit smaller or it's the last place that the oil goes to for some reason.
Regardless it's a pretty crappy design, anything mechanical should be designed to fail safe.
As in the followers should pop out, that can happen on a few of the Chrysler engines. But you just lose valve actuation at that point, it doesn't end up dropping the valve into the engine and destroying.
I'm sure proper maintenance would reduce the amount of time that this happens, but overall it's probably a crappy design... Considering the two valve Motors don't suffer from this problem.
@@kens97sto171 you are spot on the design of those cam followers is weak -keep it simple.
Can the 3.0 V6 in the 08-12 Escapes have a similar issue?
no
Great information, thanks.
What an insane engine construction - honestly!