Dodge admits how many 2023 DEMON 170 ENGINES ARE BLOWN!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Blown engines, rusty suspension, & repainted Demon 170's?
There have ben a lot of issues popping up affecting the Demon 170 and I have a response from Dodge about them. From the claim that a dozen engines have blown to rusty suspensions, what can you do and what will Dodge do about it?
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0:00 Dodge Responds
1:32 Rusty Demon suspension
3:21 Resprayed Demon 170's
6:12 Spark Plug gaps
7:14 Blown Demon 170 engines
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Great video and I really hope those D170 collectors with bubble wrapped cars were listening. Could you imagine selling an 11 mile bubble wrapped D170 6 years from now and the new owner takes it out to the track and the motor grenades. 🤦♂️
How much do you think it costs to insure and properly store a 150k car for 20-30 years?
@@JM1540Xwell considering my insurance company raised my insurance by almost 30% just for the D170, I’d say that’s easily $5k a year x 20. 😂😮
Yeah that wouldn’t be good what a waste of money. No warranty and plenty of crying. And not remedy to your heartache.
I could imagine that and it really doesn't matter because I sold the car with 11 miles on it not my problem and I'm not the one that built it
@@JM1540X The people who buy them cars As collectors have plenty of money and they are self-insured doesn't cost them a damn thing
Damm bro, Dodge is going out sad! R.I.P. Dodge! You had a good run! 💀🪦🥀
SRT, "hey were having some trouble with this engine"? Stellantis, "so just send it most of these will never get to the track".
I doubt it got that far 😂.
SRT, Slowly Rotting Transportation lol
@@OctonaBoyFresh and Laid off lol
@@johnmick9457exactly you don’t shit on your employees responsible for making your cars worth a damn then say oh btw this is your last job 🤣 we expect top quality 🤣 🤦🏻♂️.
@@OctonaBoyFreshmore like slowly rotten technology cuz they layed off all the techs so its no way of them getting ya problems resolved & I drive a hellcat the technology is bs sometimes the performance pages wanna work sometimes they don’t these cars are just good for power nothing more smh
🚥 Man I find it hard to not have buyers remorse with these 170s especially if you paid way out of this world 🌎 over sticker …hopefully this ends well for the owners of these Demon 170s
$150k+ car with rust, sneaky repaints and flawed engine design is rough.
Better than the cyber truck 🤣
@@jordancoleman2402 true 🤣
Still don't make no since spending that much money for a cheap car and it's not to perfection..😂😂 Dodge is getting yall 😂😂😂😂
@@davidrydah1725 yall? you dont even see these cars on the road, im sure most of us are aware that it isnt worth it.
@@davidrydah1725 if the regular cars were overpriced man.
I would rather buy the 2018 demon over the 170 any day
I'm starting to think the same.
Also, the 2023s were assembled at the time of the union bargaining strike with Stellantis, and attitudes can be very shady at best for assembly & QC quality with your jobs on the line. I know, I've worked those jobs and ALOT of bad workmanship took place for a different products during strikes and bargaining with the threat of job loss. And in this case, last of the breed
2018's no problem!
I got a 2018 Dodge Demon for 130k
Agreed, better quality mostly likely, 👍
@@capricetony partly that and I feel like the original demon just had that wow factor I don’t get that looking at a 170 plus the original demon is the reason I feel in love with dodge before they started there shady price gouging and straw buying bs they did with the 170s
@@FaithfulServant316 but I feel like dodge/stellantis actually cared about the car from a marketing and delivery point delivery being the construction portion in this case but back on focus stellantis is just a bunch of dummies who don’t know there customer base at all at this point sell the dodge brand to a company who really wants produce these cars
Thus far, Demon 170 has more problems than the CYBERTRUCK 😂
The rusting is not from the salt, it's from Chrysler using bad steel for the last 30 years. You ever seen a ram frame.
China steel… been killing the country for over 40 years now
I have a ram in canada and there's not one speck of rust 2019 160k
My 2013 ram came from Alberta and it looks like a rat rod underneath. But it's all just ugly surface rust
You're right about the bad steel & it don't end there! Feeble excuses for every issue! Change the oil every 200 miles!!! Is that a joke?
I have never seen a Ram with a rusted out frame. Rocker panels at 15 years yes, frame no.
Great video Butter. I used to be a dealer. I can remember going to Manheim auctions and a rep from Autocheck and Carfax being there. A car would come thru and the dealer who is "selling" the car, would tell the rep to remove certain info on the auto report in the middle of bidding. This is so the purchasing dealer can easily resell and guess what, it's legal. A lot of these practices need to be illegal.
Demonology runs his Demon hard and he seems to be doing just fine.
For now. Racer X took his 170 to the track 1 time and did everything proper and his shit literally grenaded. Part of it is chance but what's concerning is the rate of failures of this brand new car now makes you really question what the rate of failure is going to be like in 5+ years after the warranty runs out and Dodge is like "lol sry bro dam must be ur fault"
It's hard to hear all of this and NOT think that Stellantis is DELIBERATELY killing Dodge! 😡
They are!!!
This is probably one of the worst corporate mergers in automotive history.
@@theunknownone5990wieso ?
People were treating the car like a race car with a factory warranty? They unveiled it on dragstrip where they did a wheelstand! More false advertising from Dodge.
1000 hp and reliability are not a good combination.
Demonology wheel stands every time he come off the line. Go look at this video not false advertisement.
@@392scatpack3 I also did a wheelstand in mine. But if they don’t honor the warranty bc they say people treating it like a race car then they are selling us a bill of goods
Demonology proved this car to be the real deal, beating on it week after week wheels up everytime. Kickin' Tesla's assssss.
Common sense will literally tell you that you can’t have high horsepower and higher liability in the same vehicle😂
Those people paid over fair market value instead of working sd a community to keep prices down. Why would you pay Ferrari prices but get dodge quality. These dealerships act like it was made with so much carbon fiber, aluminum etc.
Butter from what I've heard there are 11 with blown engines and seven in for diagnostic according to TK and OC motivator
The mere fact that dodge warranties a 1025 hp engine tells you they are done. These are museum pieces, and not daily drag cars...
I am not surprised that these engines are popping. It’s a very high performance engine. Meaning it’s built to run the edge of what it’s capable of. Not to mention they were all built during the UAW strikes.
What does that mean? The process is the process when it comes to how things are built. And besides... All Hemi's are built in Mexico
Demonology check out his channel 170 is a monster in the right hands.
Your sponsorship transitions are the best I've ever seen
Wow a 1000hp engine having issues here and there, big deal, it happens
1000 hp and reliability don’t play well with each other. Dodge knew that.
1971, when the last 426 HEMI was made I don’t think any of this kind of BS went on. I love and still would like a Dodge Challenger Scat Pack, but looking at all this drama you see why they discontinued the cars….
You'd be wrong in thinking things were a whole lot different back then. If you wanted to take your 426 Hemi straighht to the race track you had plenty of stuff to change and fix. The 426 had an oil pan and pick up designed with how it fits inside the production K member rather than what works well at a drag strip. Unlike, say a Big Block or Small Block Chevy with an oil pan and pickup mounted toward the back of the engine, the MOPAR pick up was mid mounted and with a pan that left you with potential oil starvation under hard acceleration with drag slicks. They were more honest back in the day though. 426 Hemi cars came with nothing even remotely close to a promise to cover racing. Even a street driven 426 Hemi saw a very short warranty period. The real problem with today's Demon 170 is it's super complex design and engineering that is light years ahead of most owner's ability to see a problem before it comes up. The older 426 Hemi was child's play" easy in comparison. The Demon 170 Challenger shares one thing in common with a '71 426 Hemi Challenger that someone might have taken straight to the strip, modified and attempted to turn 10 sec runs. The old car need work to get that time. This car doesn't . The old car could only do a 10 sec run only after an owner who knew what he was doing had made big changes. A guy this savvy and knowledgeable probably caught most of the problems related to turning a street car into a fast drag car with traction. This new car requires no such effort to do a 10 sec run. It's a point and shoot affair with nothing more than a break in required and as a result regular guys, rather than actual racers are catching the problems the hard way.....through break down of things that need to be addressed for reliability. On the bright side. An owner with car that hasn't had a problem yet will benefit from the solutions that are sure to become more commonly known over time.
What do you expect from a slapped together parts catalog car? At least the 2018 was built with care and a team of engineers behind it
Can't decide between a a 2023 demon or cyber truck? Feeling extra stupid today so maybe both 🤔
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Tim Kuniskis trying to influence influencers.
Removing the front fender flare was their worst mistake
Another great video! Thanks for the information!
Thanks for the info brother!! I live in central Illinois and have a 392 Daytona... plus a Rubicon. Was interested in how you use the Boeshield? Do you apply like a regular lubricant to moving components and also as a general "coating" or covering all over such as chassis and bottom of car in general. Keep off of exhaust I assume?? Thanks and appreciate the recommendation.
My 2016 scat pack challenge r I found the outer part of the harmonic balancer when I changed the oil laying in the plastic under the oil pan. It was fixed under warranty
Shout Out to little man for wanting to see/know what dads doing with no one else around 😂🤷🏽
Thanks for the updates.
My 19' charger pursuit 5.7 awd with 60k miles and 1300 idle hours I bought for CHEAP keeps becoming a better purchase each day. Originally from the south and drove it one winter with salt already, up here in the north, washing it once a week minimum. Basically 0 rust still even compared to the pictures of the underbody when I originally bought it, besides the already slight surface rust in the control arms and other suspension components that appears to be there from the factory on all of the L cars these days. I used a product called fluid film to spray in the front fenders, rear quarter panel behind the wheel liners, and components that already had surface rust on them. Fluid film is "sticky" but it does creep down to "self heal", people use it on a bunch of cars up here in the rust belt and it basically stops corrosion on anything it is sprayed on.
I guess this is happening a lot, here in my area of Tampa Florida. A Guy has a you tube channel focusing on Mopars, he brought a Demon 170. And the Engine blow up with only a couple thousand miles on it. This happened a month ago.
I have been using Boeshield in freedom tools that get exposed daily to sweat because of their location and it does well protecting against corrosion, especially in the summer time.
Don't just take the word of the dodges remaining engineers. They will say what they have to in order to keep their jobs.
The rusty undercarriage has been an issue for years. Dodge just doesn't give a crap. Just like most manufacturers.
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Personally, fluid film! never dries displaces water (spray on wet car if need be), actually penetrates the steal the longer it’s on there. During hot weather it’s creeps around and constantly spreading on the panels, but will wipe off with ease during car wash if it comes around to the shiny side of the panels (doesn’t hurt paint) I have a 2016 2500 180k I have been spraying since new. No surface rust on anything underneath! New England winter climates. Drilled holes in doors to get inside then plugged with body plugs. The bare metal from the drill holes is still shiny like I did it today. If you don’t want to do it yourself (kit for air compressor) some shops will do it for you $$$. To me, 💯 worth the investment
Ha ha ha 😂 for the fools that fell for it and bought the rush in production of the D170. OG Demon any day!
@7:00 lol luv that shout out 😈
Yeah I remember when the 170 early sales people complained the doors would not close properly I’m wandering if the factory hard launching is twisting the frame. I believe they test each car when they are built.
I feel like that would be pretty hard to do on a modern car, a lot more likely the have something like improperly aligned doors, somewhat like the Cybertruck lately
It's wierd seeing a race car with a warranty. 👍
If you say you lucky enough to have one then whatever comes along with it should be understood
Tons of all cars get paint repairs at the factory. Every plant has paint repair shops.
If I'm buying a $150,000 + car with a rusty frame and rebuilt Hemi, it's going to be a 1970 R/T Hemi Challenger. . . or Plymouth Cuda.
my last call charger had a issue with catalytic converter smh was gttting poor gas and nasty sulfer smell in the cabing while driving above 60 mph
There’s a big difference from an engine going all out from dead stop to max rpm to an engine going all out gradually on an open highway to max rpm
It’s all about your engine’s capability to have time to adjust it’s harmonics internally.
A car manufacturer building a race engine is not a race engine shop building a dragster engine for top fuel. Lol. Like one person had just commented, it was over for dodge when they built a 1,000 hp car.
thank u for the knowledge i’m a fellow demon 170 and former 18 demon owner👍👍😎
Sorry about your luck.
Most 2018 demons had rust on suspension parts, mine included. If they were built in Brampton during the winter, that cant be helped .
If I got one, would send it to Hennessy in Plano Texas and have it gone through and upgraded
The irony of this dumbass comment is almost too much.
I'm here from tks garage and subscribed
Dodge said they were blowing up engines during testing. They probably never truly fixed the problem.
This is going to turn into a lemon law class action situation.
imagine paying this much money for a car thats purpose built but has a limiter not allowing you to increase your times, parts that cant handle it, etc etc when you could buy a purpose built car for less that has a much better time and can handle the madness
I would recommend OAI (Oil Analyzers Inc through Amsoil) over Blackstone. Blackstone’s fuel dilution test isn’t accurate and I have seen some inconstant results from Blackstone.
Dodge has the best record of cars not lasting the duration of there notes…it’s dodge …they been rusty since day 1
Yes, I highly recommend blackstone labs as well!
Absolutely every other oil change is so worth it
Bro there's way more than 4 or 5. There's atleast 11 confirmed right now and a bunch more in for Diag. I think these engines are going to continue to blow for the rest of the year
Vehicles are coming right off the assembly line with to many issues and recalls.
People complaining are the ones that don't care people got screwed by dodge buying an overpriced car with many quality problems. They are like dodge dealers. Don't care who got screwed as long as they get paid off someone elses misfortune.
There a 300c with the 6.4 on a Facebook page that is in horrible health an Chrysler told the owner it's on him I'm glad I sold mine 🤦🏾♂️
The legend
Give’em hell Butter 👍👍👍
I’ve only roasted four sets of tires. I can’t believe my engine blew😂
The ToC must be outrageous.
That just bolt on website has garbage for the hellcat redeye wide body platform....
6:00 Mishibishi???
Im just surprised Dodge offers a warranty with this car, how do they know how its been driven or proper break in performed,I bet the first thing they do is hook up their diagnostic computor,and scan the ecm.
That’s crazy😫😫😫
If this crap is going on with the Demon, I wonder about the Hellcats and Red-eyes.
Think about it how does a 350 cubic inch V8 with a supercharger make 700 plus horsepower reliably?
My 170 is amazing!
I dont understand all the bashing. Im sure there will be some cases of issues, but look back at all the high horsepower cars from the 60s and 70s.
What do you not understand? Its factual information he's relaying unlike the mess of shit you said .......
What did ppl expect butter said even in development in his d and r video they were glowing engines coincidence
Demonology kickin ass taking names Demon 170 is the real deal in the right hands, Demonology knows what he is doing,"Period".
I feel like for its price, the demon 170 should’ve been powered by the hellephant 426
Nobody said anything about a break-in on my new Skatpack. I know It smoked on startup for the first 500 miles tho.
That is normal.
Your scat pack won’t go into track mode or sport mode until the car breaks in and hits 500 miles. That’s the break-in Even though these motors are already broken in
Family is everything made my day your son running through lol. That is my 3 all day long. Thank you for your content and appreciate ya
SXT owners who were dissed by higher trim owners could be laughing at the D170 issues rn. Lmao
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Yal racer x the guy on his u Tube channel blew his 170 demon up an I've seen him on u tube always at the race track .
All the engineers have left, why buy any vehicle from these clowns.
Dodge has turned out to be a snake oil salesman.
Very interesting 🤔🧐 maybe Dodge released the cars before testing was totally thorough. Seen a couple YTube vids with body stuff not assembled properly.
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Bro if i was you id just sell that shit asap considering how bad the quality control is for Dodge is general now I can't even imagine the problems that might crop up down the line or how fragile these engines might be a few years down the line. Sounds like a ticking time bomb either way man, sell that shit get as much back as you can man fr especially if you really are a middle class guy.
I swear I've seen boesheild in the military. I could be wrong.
You also seem to be a great family man concerned about your kid even when you're making a video shout out need to be more people like you cuz I'm that kind of guy too My kids the most important thing in my life
They rushed us out of the plant so fast last December. No wonder the cars came out so ass.
Do you even know what the harmonic balancer is on the front of the crank shaft is for an what it does . It balances the crank rods pistons from your car idling to high rpms . If this motor was built right an had a good harmonic balancer on it when the motor was built. That can cause a lot of trouble with the motor. So many people talk about changing the gap on the plug don't even know what it does. Changing to a hot plug an a colder plug. changing from a 220 thermostat to a 180 . You said on your video you didn't even know where it was. Like most people there only saying what they read on the internet are other RUclips channels. Mark my word Dodge is going to stop replacing these motors for the owners for free. There going to blame the owner for blown the motors up. There is a lot of up keep on a race motor an running methanol You can NOT go to the trade an make pass after pass go home an drive it for a month with out changing the oil after you make you passes. This oil mixed with methanol makes the oil milky eats the bearing up.
Did you not hear Butter say that a Dodge service department discovered the faulty harmonic balancer and reported it to stellantis or are you here to change the subject. Majority of the people who bought a Demon 170 are motor heads and were advised to take the vehicles back for troubleshooting before touching them. More details on the suppliers I'm sure will be coming out.
I asked Dodge about the 2023 Demon 170 BLOWING ENGINES. They RESPOND - "To bad, so sad"
Another banger. These guys have to stop crying about facts. lol
all these issues aint by accident forcing the Evs
Rip dodge
RACE ONLY DART LO23 426 HEMI, NO WARRANTY from new!
There is no incentive for any company to tell the truth too sell their product. I personally would buy a used hellcat and have my engine built by BES racing and know it was done right.
This is what you get when you go with Mopoor 😅
Top speed,blown engines bro what’s going on
I don't understand why people still buy them the car looks pretty the same since it came out at least give it a face lift or something the charger got one Wich look better in my opinion than the challenger. Can't do anything with the car unless you drag stripping assuming it's a demon. And I would hope They aint your dailys lol
Thank you for looking out. These days we seldom have people holding their "tribes" accountable for BS.
Yeah buddy the engine had a thrown rod and they just replaced that one😂😂😂😂 these experts know NOTHING about cars
Most of the Demon 170 issues are from improper break-in. Stelantis is giving people the wrong break-in procedure. The oil should be changed at 60 miles of reserved driving, then changed again at 500 miles of normal driving, and changed again at 3,000 miles of more aggressive driving before any actual racing. After that, every 3,000 miles or after every night at the race track. Whichever happens first. Yes, change the oil after every race night. No exceptions.
The people who buy these cars and do not follow those procedures will have engine failure much, much sooner than if they followed that procedure. This is common knowledge for people who actually build and run race engines. Yes, the Demon 170's engine is a production engine, but it is a production race engine. It should be treated as any other race engine despite what Stelantis recommends.
I would never have expected quality control issues or poor build quality with a Dodge product. Piles of crap
No one really wants to acknowledge any issues. So not a big enough problem.
It’s probably because of the worker layoffs and pissing off the people who made dodge good- srt. So yeah your not gonna get good last years or specialty cars when the people behind the reason the cars being fast are pissed off because they got wind of being fired btw after they build them all 🤣. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.