Is the 1,025 HP Demon 170 really a Plaid Killer? * Demon 170 vs Tesla Plaid 1/4 Mile DRAG RACE
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2023
- We race the all new wheelie popping 1,025 HP Dodge Demon 170 vs my Tesla Model S Plaid down the 1/4 mile drag strip. Who you got between this epic war between electric and gas? RacerX Video: • Demon 170 vs Plaid, Qu...
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The Dodge Demon 170 and Tesla Model S Plaid are two incredibly powerful cars, each showcasing different technological approaches and strengths. The 2023 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 boasts an impressive 1,025 horsepower and 945 lb-ft of torque, making it one of the few gas-powered production cars with over 1,000 horsepower. It can accelerate from 0-60 mph in just 1.66 seconds and complete a quarter-mile run in 8.91 seconds. These figures are achieved on a prepped surface with E85 fuel, marking the Demon 170 as one of the fastest production gas-powered cars ever.
The 2023 Tesla Model S Plaid produces slightly less horsepower at 1,020 but demonstrates the advancements in electric vehicle technology. It features a tri-motor, all-wheel drive (AWD) setup and achieves 0-60 mph in about 1.98 seconds under favorable conditions, and completes the quarter-mile in approximately 9.25 seconds at 152.6 mph. The Plaid's electric powertrain delivers power quietly compared to the thunderous roar of the Demon 170's supercharged V8 engine.
Both vehicles represent pinnacle achievements in their respective domains: the Demon 170 as a final act of defiance from traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) muscle cars and the Model S Plaid as a beacon of electric vehicle performance and efficiency. The choice between them would largely depend on personal preferences regarding electric versus ICE, driving experience, and the intended use of the vehicle 
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Demons cause y’all did what was required to run fast 😂
Hennessey Venom F5 in 2024? Or maybe NOT!🤦♀️
No need to guess, we already knew the demon would need an engine replacement between runs.
Demon
Neither
This is what racing is supposed to be like. Two friends just seeing how it goes on race day.
Dragging is NOT Racing.
try Overland , Race Track racing or OVAL.
@@markplott4820 Cool! 👍
Such a hater. Two cars flooring it to the quarter mile, it’s a race, it’s a friendly competition like shush buddy
@@markplott4820^
@@calebrlheinitz144 - Drag racing is like two guys running in Dresses & High Heals w/ Lipstick.
Doesn't have to be ICE vs EV crowds. As a car enthusiast, I own both types and enjoy them for what they are. Today it went to the Plaid, but I'll rock with most anything that has wheels and motorized. Cheers for the races!
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Well said true car enthusiasts won’t care what the power sources are.
Leno loves steam power
ICE will become ILLEGAL to own in some States in 2025.
@@wsu8568 you can tell the car enthusiast community has chosen you as the leader and judge of who is and isn’t a car guy. You guys are so so weird, thats why you drive an EV
For the demon being rear wheel drive only, the demon is a very impressive car, the times, torque, speed.
But once you hit the streets, there's no point, you will lose to something that has 300hp due to too much wheel spin
@@QUIKCaspa oh absolutely. If anything that power would be more uncontrollable especially in wet and snowy conditions vs the plaid has many modes where it cuts that limit way down.
@@QUIKCaspathat’s cap
@QUIKCaspa you never heard of pedal control? When you race a high horsepower car, don't just smash the throttle, half throttle launch and slowly ease into full throttle.
yeah but it pops a lot of wheelies so the awd wouldnt do anything
RacerX is literally what every car guy should strive to act, and be more like. He’s so genuine and kind. Need more of that positivity!
Im a mopar fan to the bone..built lotsa 600+ hp cars, gearhead from birth. A 170 demon, gutted interior supercharged e85 car made a lot of noise in this video. Demon nailed his 2nd launch..that was as good as he could do in that car, period. Tesla plaids 9.3 quarter is amazing..and it can do it all day on the same tires, no e85 and in silence. Great video
Yes, but it's like going to a rock concert without sound. 👎loud pipes save lives....
@@vonbogroff Yea, who wants to see Motorhead without any sound!
@@vonbogroff Fine, then play some music instead of listening to engine noise.
The Tesla can’t do it all day. It’s a one trick. The demon could do it all day. Also E85 is cheaper nowadays as opposed to regular 95 or even 100.
@@Odyssey636 that’s just untrue. ICE will be around for years and years. Especially with synthetic fuels now.
WOW....A five-seater sedan beating a dedicated quarter mile car !!
89k sedan
And for less
@@Hellenkeller777you know another $89k sedan, or anything at that price, that can do the same?
@@Hellenkeller777how much does that challenger cost?
@@knight2386 He said near the beginning of the video it was $108k
It boils down to how much power you can put the ground without spinning the tires! Nice video guys!
Love the conversation between you guys after the race! Enjoyed watching this.
The Demon could never actually do what dodge said in the real world for 99% of the customers and I always doubted the 170. Bradenton is one of the best prepped tracks in the country too.
Gonna have to run it at Cecil, for it to even have a halfway chance of trapping anywhere near where they claim.
There’s already real world 170’s running 8.9’s…..😂
@@dubjay3779 link?
@@Charlesbjtown ruclips.net/user/shorts4kZY_mRQG3s?si=xrBccJQBOdQ0N7aJ
@@Charlesbjtown ruclips.net/video/YuaroMk0BFk/видео.htmlsi=lj20Vj0s8b4jNzq-
Although some may dislike it, the Plaid is truly incredible. It's hard to believe that a family car can perform like this, but the numbers don't lie. I may consider it in the future, but for now, I'm sticking with my Boosted Model 3 LR.
The 750hp M3P ludicrous highland model is coming soon too. High 9's
@@larryc1616 I sure hope so!
Ive seen a 5 seater family car in the 7's. Wasnt stock but then again you cant tune a tesla anyway lol.
@@larryc1616wait, is it true? M3P with 750 hp? didn't hear that
What makes it a family car? That’s horseshit. Both those cars are built for taking off. Here the driver of the dodge couldn’t handle it. He was spinning out and popping wheelies in 2nd. All a plaid drive has to do is put his foot down. That makes it cool and not at the same time.
People who be making excuses for a laser focused modified drag car being beaten by a stock four door family sedan for less money be wild to me 😂
Any change to your suspension, since ‘lower’ video? Still using the signature adjustment rods? Ordering tomorrow ;)
There's going to be a lot of salt in the comments section! 😅
Yup! But I mean both fanbase' are extremely toxic at times. All I gotta say is I will definitely be anticipating this specifically for the comments 😂
you mean...lithium
Both of these cars are trash in real world use and at least Tesla is usable
I rather get a BMW M5 or Porsche 911 turbo S at same price and tune them they will be much faster
@@Smzxe Plaid is 89.990$. Ain't getting a Turbo S for the same dimes and nickels
@@apekatt2007 all taxes plus options plaid goes above 150k
Easy win for the plaid! Had a feeling the 170 would be hyped just like the demon and underperform in the real world. Still a good race! Should put it up against a Turbo s or your sf90!
As always, it’s a fluke if you can get that markup170 low 9s meaning perfect everything which doesn’t happen too often so on a daily basis it would get stomp!
I think that the two big advantages that the EV has in a drag race against an ICE opponent are 1) no interruption of power and 2) absolute control over tire spin.
Along with that no interruption, 100% torque and HP from start to finish! It's really not a fair comparison...JustSaying
EVs only require very little "expertease" from the driver.@@Beemernow
Excatly!@@Beemernow
@@machdaddy6451*expertise. Most everything becomes more user-friendly, including anything that flies (fly by wire).
@@spacep0d Yup. It takes very little expertise to consistently repeat an EV's best ET.
I've owned a Hellcat and now a Model 3P and next a Plaid. They are all amazing machines.
This video sums it up perfectly, both cars are insane but the work needed on the Challenger to get similar times to the Tesla is making it too unconsistant, but i really think Dodge outdid themselves on this one, make that brick (no disrespect i love Challenger) go that fast is really good
very unconsistent indeed.
I am NOT a fan of Dodge or Chrysler; they have placed the "kiss of death" on so many vehicles whose reputations were once very positive. Go and have a look at the problems associated with the Mercedes Sprinter cargo van. One of the best-selling on the road today, and completely unreliable.
What an expensive waste of money is the Dodge. Just 1 seat, ugly, jumping, noisy, expensive...
@@mcmlxxx1980 Potentially dangerous in the wrong hands, overpowered, nonsensical, impractical, wasteful, over-hyped, gas-guzzling, clutch-blowing, over-produced, and senseless in such times as this. Among the worst of vehicles on the road today. I see more of these crashed and broken in two than nearly any other car, including Mustangs, Camaros, and those punk-ass, butt-ugly Chargers and SRT Jeep (I call them "bricks"). If it stayed on the track, that's would be at least slight move in the right direction.But you and I both know these cars are better at burning rubber in a circle than on a straight track. Street racers love to drive these through a residential neighborhood at 130+. It's all about "AWESOMENESS" you know. Making impressions.
... What a frickin' culture... Happy New Year.
Did you watch the same video? The dodge got smoked every time.
I drive a Hellcat 800whp and a 23 Plaid both nice cars but the way how the Plaid pulls is different 😅
I drove a model 3 performance once and that was on a whole another level I can't even fathom what a plaid would feel like.
@@daryl9799A Model 3 Performance is quick enough from a light than most care modded can take on. However 5xxwhp vs 10xx is way differnt lol.
I know… I have a Tesla model S Raven. And it’s faster than my 911. 😂
Still love them both ❤
I have a Camaro and a Tesla. My Tesla is way faster than my Camaro... I couldn't believe it. I'm still in disbelief.
Damn bro what do you do for a living?
That Demon sounds like the gates of hell opened up, damn
This was an awesome, exemplary demonstration of real racers!
Ngl Paul from racerx is a good dude! When people loss they get salty and this man just acted like a gentleman and put his head down and said good race I’ll see u again 💯💪
Thank you my friend.. as you know.. you can't win them all and Brooks and I are friends. We still had a good time
@@RacerX9Hey valiant effort Paul. Kudos to the both of you for making this happen for us YT fans.
Can’t wait to see the rematch brother 💯👌🏽
Yeah about as expected. Grip/launch issues, Takes a while to dial that 170 in unfortunately. The second run was his best, that was a decent race.
As soon as I saw it was RacerX I already knew what would happen, cause I saw his 170 videos. Lol
It even kept up better than the McLaren 765lt did against the plaid int the 2nd run
True, I knew it was not going to go A to B lol...
I'm impressed with the challengers pull. The challenger has stood the test of time. Beautiful car. My brother had a 1971 RT factory orange with white interior white vinyl top. It had white RT stripes on sides .383 magnum with Hurst pistol grip 4 speed. That was a bold looking car . It loved gas . Pretty quick red light to red light. Love those Mopar magic cars.😊
Hey Brooks, have you ever tried testing the difference with the mirrors open versus the mirrors closed?
Nothing but respect to RacerX and Brooks, I love that two American cars with a ton of power and both fun as hell, love both cars and what a time to be alive as an enthusiast, go team America! Don't hate on anything, promote fun!
Well said. Spending a day learning and racing either of these cars, is a day well-spent.
Very well said couldn’t agree more
That Plaid is just so insanely consistent. It ALWAYS runs insanely fast times, even when the battery is low, and it requires WAY less prep work compared to the Demon 170.
The Demon 170 is very cool, but it shows just what the limits of ICE are. It requires all this prep work and proper conditions, while the Plaid just needs to let the batteries condition for a bit and be on a decent charge.
And thats the beauty of electric cars😃
Shows the limitations of ICE? buddy it’s a 5000lb RWD car
That car is nowhere close to the limitations of ICE
The limitation of ICE is EMISSIONS laws, don’t get it twisted 😂
No, I’m defending the L that car just took. I just find it hilarious you really think that’s the limits of ICE 😂😂😂
cope harder dinosaur@@GnoixGenp
@@GnoixGenp Teslafanboys always forget about modded ICE cars on purpose.
The limit of ICE cars is the Dodge Demon 170 LOL??????????????????????????
What was the tire pressure in the Dodge?
Thats awesome! Idk why i never hear about these things going on. I live about 20 minutes from Bradenton motorsports park.
man the plaid is just so consistent in killing it. Funny how EV guys never chirp the ICE drivers about "cool down, tires not hooking, leaks, turbo issues, blah blah blah"
Yeah thats what makes it so boring lmao
@@hasangenc2922 how’s that boring ? lol cause something didn’t break. That’s sounds dumb
Exactly.. They almost sound archaic- EVs just work.. Better machines, its simple
@@hasangenc2922Winning is never boring- The better machines wins out regardless of how you feel though
@@martellparks1450Boneheaded "car guys" think like cavemen.. No big boom, rev, and screeching means dumb 😭
Great job Brooks putting this race together so quickly and giving ever opportunity to RacerX to get a good run against you.
Keep that energy you had on that flop of a video Camakat put out …at this point sell cheapo kitty and that Panamera get a 911 992 turbo send it to aim performance because I know you get tired of losing brother 😢
@@terrywhitlow2744how was it a flop of a video when the demon beat the plaid from a roll lol, the car didn’t hook in this video there’s already multiple 8.9 passes in stock demon 170’s it comes down to traction and a 142 trap is almost 5-8mph lower than others have run.
@@itsJustDaniel8.9's were modded with cherry picked runs and times. Line them up 10 times and tell us how many times a 8.9 demon can beat the Plaid? Maybe 1
@@itsJustDanielwatch racer X video it spinning every run and the track speedo was off by 4mph
@@larryc1616 negative my guy you have zero clue what your talking about lol literally
I grew up mostly in a Mopar family... Huge fan of Dodge... Then Tesla comes along and I became an even bigger fan of Tesla.... Being able to consistently, out-drag one of the quickest, almost-purpose-built-from-factory drag racing car on the way home from Costco with the family and groceries in-tow is what makes Tesla vehicles so special... As a middle-aged, family man, Tesla has saved me from the torture of having to putz around in a minivan...
I'd be interested to see the Tesla 1/4 mile times with a full family and groceries
@@trevorshark16 Me too, but it would be unethical to drag race with minors and young kids.
It would’ve been nice to see both of them hook up perfectly. It was nice that you gave the ice car time to cool down so it could get out there to race again. 😂
Even when the Demon hooked up fully in the first race it STILL wasn't reeling the Paid in at all. So the next races were a given if Brooks didn't mess up and Brookes never messes up. :) Even with good launches the Demon would have had a really hard time winning.
There’s video of the plaid getting its ass kicked by a Demon. A guy who could actually handle it launched it under control and the Tesla was in his rear view mirror quick.
@@nicholasbauserman7276What time did the demon get?
@@lachlanB323 ruclips.net/video/xtIjcO6sNZw/видео.htmlsi=tU9YSAjMaBp1k7qc
@@lachlanB323he lying talking about demonology which has the ONLY demon to beat a plaid and it’s heavily modified over 200k in mods just to be able to compete with a stock car😂
@@dabigbosss3791 Bruh. To be expected though lol. Looks like petrol cars have lost the dragstrip unless you're hardcore dedicated with your petrol car. What's next is the track I think. The model S plaid is the second fastest sedan on the track ever which while incredible and is better then a Corvette C8. Losses to a Corvette Z06 but is cheaper so who cares.
What will happen if Tesla made a smaller 2 seater and goes all out as the car is 200k?
this test illustrates how in a real world situation, even a similarly quick car has a hard time putting it to the ground. This is a prepped track with ideal tires, and a skilled driver, and it still can’t put the power down.
Tesla puts the power down.
Electricity is the future.
@GWAForUTBE did you not see the car blow the tires off and die past the 330? If that was a fair race the 170 would drive outta the plaids life.
@DoktrWhiteCustoms what wasn't fair? The dog Is a 2 door, race car, sold street legal for a 250k.
The Plaid is a perfectly practical soccer mom , luxory 4 door, sold for 89k.
Very obviously, the future is electric.
I really enjoy what good sports these two men are. No question, EV or ICE, we all love what we love. Pity if we have to insult everything else.
Picked up a Plaid a few weeks ago with 41 K miles on it. Love car so far. I was only able to manage a 9.6 at 145 with 86% soc. so far. It was on the street on a very cold night. 60 ft was a 1.59. Wondering should i lower tire psi or raise it?
Raise
Impressive results for the S, especially since it looks fully stock inside while the Dodge has been stripped to the unibody. All the while with a big trunk, a frunk, and seating 5.
Both stock bud
@@ryansviews1:02 not stock bud but nice try lmao
@@meekspk2391 he removed the seats lmao he even mentions it can come from the factory like that. He didn’t change anything with the engine, ecu, suspension, etc
@@ryansviews so he reduced the weight of the vehicle? Doesn't sound stock lmao
@@meekspk2391 Tesla isn't really stock either likely gutted and put back the interior parts we see...
The Tesla Model S Plaid is just insane. It has the advantage all the way around from having a single gear, awd and battery weight in the floor glueing the car to the track.
the demon can do the 1/4 in 8.9 so there is some problem in this race
@@Idontknow68932it’s against a Tesla, you can’t use excuses like that
It's still a piece of crap and it will never outlive that demon
@@Idontknow68932 under very ideal conditions
@@AmericaFirst069 Multiple electric motors vs a combustion engine like turning on a light switch vs lighting a candle .Off the line no contest. no substitute for instant torque even if Tesla's are overpriced crap
I want to see what the upcoming new Dodge Daytona Banshee EV will do vs whatever changes come to the plaid. Being 4WD and 800volt it should be faster.
Voltage means nothing, in terms of speed.
@Charlesbjtown as someone who builds PEVS.... You need to understand you're wrong.
The following formula probes its
V x I = P
Where V is volts.
I is battery amps.
P is total watts of power. (Aka current)
Instant torque, AWD & ONE gear will be very HARD to beat for an ICE machine without AWD and multiple gear shifts. Each gear shift is a risk of traction LOSS (especially with RWD only). 1st gear shift (1-->2) has the MOST risk of traction loss, with risk decreasing with each subsequent shift.
You can tell the true car and racing people in the comments from the my camp mentality people.
I appreciate both cars for what they are and represent. Two very different driving experiences and two very different forms of propelling a vehicle forward.
From a consistency standpoint the Tesla has it from the start. The Demon 170 on the other hand has it from a potential to run X standpoint as long as a combination of things line up.
One represents more of a European refinement ideal while the other represents a more brutish look at me I'm an American Muscle car image.
One gives a feeling of the car being in control while the other forces you to be in control of the car.
Again I appreciate both of those. Sometimes I want to drive a more well mannered and easier controlled car. Other times I like the feeling of raw untamed power.
The noobies say "but it pops wheelies!". As long as it does that, it's all good. They couldn't care less about trap and E.T.
Or the other thing but its really good at doing burnouts and drifting.
I just watched one run in the 8.9's pulling a wheelie out of the hole.
Just imagine what it will do when one figures out how to get it to launch without wheelies or blowing the tires off. If they fit, I think an inch or two taller diameter tire would help the Demon 170 out a lot both at launch and on the top end. @@Charlesbjtown
@@CharlesbjtownThat wheelie alone is way cooler than anything a Plaid does tho lol.
@@wolfgangbarrio5043 Says the casual race observer 😂
@@Charlesbjtown what, Drag Racing is serious now? Lol
Huge fan of both cars. Glad you posted this. Consistency and hooking up is where it’s at.
Consistency? It's RWD vs AWD in wet conditions, everyone with a brain knows the Demon is almost half a second faster in a dry 0-60.
For the demon to take off like that as a production car is crazy and to take off head to head with an electric car that is very fast is also crazy
One of the best race of all time! Love both of these cars. ❤
I have a 800hp Tesla model S. The best race was against a tuned Hellcat & 1000 hp GTR. That was pretty epic and all 3 of us had fun. We did it @ 7am on Sunday when nobody was on the road. 😂
Plaid will take it. Demon 170’s trap speeds are significantly lower and needs 1.3x 60 foots to ET low enough to run even with a Plaid and guaranteed that’s not happening often
Slower mph than plaids though which sucks . Will get ran down any distance rolling which is crazy . Figured the dedicated drag car would have the mph even if it didn’t have the et.
@@IReahpZz yep you’d think so but guess not
@@Matt.e_Black it’s not an I think so , drag times just posted actual runs on a prepped strip . It gets out mphd
@@IReahpZz ya I realize that. I’m saying you’d think Dodge would have built a faster car and clearly it needs more HP since it isn’t trapping high enough to beat a Plaid on a roll
@@Matt.e_Black my apologies read it wrong .
Please “run it back” with these two cars again. This was a great first round. The Plaid’s consistency won this round hands down but I want to see more of this matchup.
You want to see more until the Dodge wins🤣🤣🤣
What’s the point? Until 170 has some catastrophic failures!?? Repair bill worth it??
Why? Lmao all the hellcats are literally trash lol
Launch - Dodge Explodes, driver ejects........
Last words as he flies off into the sunset. ICE forever beoyooooooooch!
What more is there to see? It's the same result, unless the EV driver is sleeping off the line
Put on true drag slicks on the 170 and he would win every time
Question: I hear a reference to 1.49 60' time a number of times. Is the 1.49 not your reaction time? or maybe both? Depends on what the scoreboard is set to show. Just curious.
1.49 is just the 60 ft. Basically how good or not good your car leaves off the line. Reaction time is how fast you react to the lights
Such a great video. Brooks and RacerX are two of the best automotive channels. Great job! Keep the great content coming.
🚦Consistency wins the race every time…Kudos to both guys giving us the race we have been waiting for 😎🇺🇸
Every damn time brother
And brooks Plaid is slower than it was new he still gapped 170 sad day for you mopar 🥜 lickers 😂
Sad demon 170 owners looks like this one is a dud like the original 😂
@@rellj4369ouch that one stings 😂
Que the sad music depressing music for mopar lovers …Dodge played in your face yet again 😂
There should be 'Plaid rides' given to the public that can't afford a Plaid for themselves, for a fee of course! It would be at a local drag strip. Let's say $25 to $40 per drag, just to see what this sick car acceleraton is like! Most of us will never know.
I don’t see this as a race between ICE and electric at all. It’s really a race between 2 Wheel drive and four-wheel-drive. If the demon had all wheel drive, there would be no problems with consistency as far as traction is concerned.
Yup
If both cars are stock with no weight reduction…
-Plaid 9.26 @ 151, 1.44 60’
-Dodge 9.46 @ 147, 1.31 60’
I think the Dodge has weight reduction already
I’ve seen 9.2 and 9.1 stock for the 170 already. Someone with just skinnies ran 8.993 a few days ago.
@@johncena-hq1tiRon sliva ran a 8.8 with his demon170
@@Kingthemanss yep he’s been in the 8s for a week or two now.
Kudos for putting yourselves out there especially RacerX. Respect 🙏
In looking over these comments I'd say it's more about the "Tesla fans" enjoying the threat of electric vehicles to a hobby that is loved by millions. Listening to gearheads talk is great - the amount of knowledge they have and understand, the fun they have building monster cars with sick horsepower is incredible. Tesla owners? You want to hear a Tesla gearhead talk about cars? Can't. No such thing.
Race em. The Dodge demon SRT 170 against. The Dodge SRT Ghoul charger 😮.
That’s crazy that a five seater family car drives to the track beats 1000+ horsepower race car and drives home.
Lol not really when you realize it's a tri - motor all electric with 1000+ HP and AWD. Also the Plaid has been out for a few years, not really "crazy" anymore 🤭
@@nighthawk0077 Well if you say so. I’m at the track at least once a month and just about every one watching and running are amazed the way it performs, as it looks like a soccer mom car. To each its own.
@@dlang1009 Must be the same people that are still amazed by an iPhone 11 - 3 years later..
@@nighthawk0077 Of course. If the Plaid wouldn't be american, no one here would talk about it in the first place, just like even Elon ignores Rimac consistently for reasona 😎
@@nighthawk0077 What's wrong with that, though? Car enthusiasts still sing praises over manual transmissions, and they've been out for decades. We shouldn't gatekeep enthusiasm, just to minimize a cars prowess.
Brooks thank you so much for these Plaid uploads. You're the reason I got one myself 4 months ago. Keep it up man looking forward to more of these amazing uploads
The consistency on Plaid is INSANE. Great races gents!
No, the consistancy is really not insane. Eectric motors don't care about sea level or Denver, CO, not about high heat or humidity. EVs are more consistant on power delivery, n9 mystery there. Then, it has a low CG and all wheel drive, so it hooks better usually. So you would expect the Plaid to run more consistantly. Only your state of charge is the biggest power delivery factor.
@@williamthornton5856 read "insanely good"
@@rickkay9548 Yes, i agree.
There's so much glue on that track that I've ever seen in my life
Two of my favorite tubers collaboration what a Xmas treat
What a great one! Thanks! 👍
What’s the point of a car that can’t do what it’s supposed to do? Thats basically a lemon experience daily. The demon doesn’t make sense unless everything is perfect which it almost never is
Bro drag times dude is buff as frick bro gimme ur arms day routine I need a be like u
I wanna see a 3 way race with the 170, 765LT and Plaid. The Demon and 765 would have to be in negative DA and have perfect track conditions though to have a chance. I actually think in extremely negative DA the 765 could go a high 8 with nothing but a set of sticky tires. Brooks first 765 ran low 9s in shitty Florida weather.
Brook's was cracking me up talking a little smack. 😋 The 170 should be able to do low 9's and beat the Plaid but it's not an easy task as they proved here. The Plaid is a monster still hitting low 9's easily.
There's something to be said for the cvt trans if you watch close the ev goes and every time the gasser shifts it falls back
Definitely a great video and greatrace...its amazing how much the teslas are dropping in value...plaid that was selling for 140k now at 86k and used ones going for 60-75k....people have to be pissed.
Idk I’m at home ROOTING for the Plaid so strong!! 😅 That was an awesome video… just shows how advanced the Tesla is/was back in 2021!! I wonder what a Roadster could possibly do? 🥴
The Roadster 2.0 with SpaceX cold gas thrusters is coming! That won't even be 'just a car' according to Elon. Can't wait.
Great race. Plaid seems down on mph but time was good. Love seeing the wheelie on the Demon 👌🏼
I would love to see more Plaid Vs Sapphire runs at drag strips by actual owners..
For the 170 to run a 9.0, it took a professional driver and a team of engineers on a track that was prepped to their liking. Plaids have run sub 9 full weight, but this example has some miles. The demon was unloading and definitely needed some shock tuning to be competitive.
And you forget one thing. Dodge used different mickeys for the real pass that counted, not the ones they sell you with the car.
@@Grandpuba1069 I hadn't heard that, but given the disparity between claimed and actual times, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more done to that hero car than dodge let on.
Is this track in Lemoore, California?
They obviously said they in Florida
So Demon 170 is capable of 9.39@142.89MPH and Plaid just proved it can consistently run 9.38 but trapping 4MPH faster (on same day at same track) you guys in the comments section are hilarious with how you viewed what we all just witnessed based on what team your on. There was no massacre on either side 🤦🏻♂️
And the Earth is flat 😂
3-0 = Murder
Dodge slow as always
4mph is quite a bit.
@@Charlesbjtown yeah I’m aware 4MPH isn’t nothing, but clearly there was some more left in the Dodge where as the Tesla could’ve run all day and not improved on its times. At the end of the day I’m just happy I got rid of my plaid in 2021 for $5k more than I paid ($145k at the time) that I see they’re now $89k! 🤦🏻♂️
If racer x is going to race a Plaid, get a hold of Andrew from the Tesla Plaid channel!!
Andrew’s car isn’t stock so not a comparison for stock vs stock
A gutted Plaid wasn't necessary to win.
Gutted for gutted makes sense to me. Andrew will run out of that demons life 😂.
@@Matt.e_Black how is it not stock?
@@TeslaP3D maybe not this time.....but the 170 haa a bunch weight taken out of it.
So to make it fair for both.
I've never driven a Tesla S Plaid before, let alone any Tesla. The closest thing has been my sister-in-law's Honda Clarity LOL! While I'm sure it's other-worldly to go 0-60 in 1.9 and 1/4 mile in 9.3 in a family car right out of the box, I do wonder what it lacks in visceral feel and emotion. And I'm sure the Plaid Track Pack will make up for that. For the younger generation that doesn't know life before the internet and cell phones, it doesn't matter I guess. But I'm 50 this year and my first car was an 83 Peugeot 505S given to me for free. It was driven to the ground and ready for the junkyard. So as a student driver (with someone next to me), going 80 on a clear freeway with the whole front dash shaking violently and about to fall right off, my definition of an exciting drive is different and I have high standards. Going 60 in a blink of an eye with no engine sound and feel seems a little boring. I'm sure it's good for 15 minutes, but soon I will want to hears some revs.
My wife drives a Mach E and I drive an F150. I didn't want to like her car. I can tell you, if both vehicles are in the driveway way and and I need to make a run, I jump in the Mach E 10 times out of 10. I'm 50 and I've owned fast cars over the years, but none were and quick as this or more fun to drive. I can't even imagine how a Tesla Plaid would feel to launch.
😮 How things have changed since drag racing my new 69 Z/28 turning low 13s. With 4.56 rear gear. 😳
Plaid. Easy work.
I am a life-long Chrysler fan, but I knew this was going to be a tough challenge for any "conventional" muscle car. The Tesla almost certainly has a lower center of gravity than the Dodge which helps launch stability. The biggest difference was two-wheel drive vs AWD. Any AWD car hunkers down and grabs the road surface better than a RWD or FWD car. Racer X has apparently received a lot of flak for his results in this face-off, but that is not fair. The car is his, and he did the best he could. Be glad he took his expensive ride to the track for us to see. Thanks to these guys for this video
What people keep forgetting is that the demon is on slicks and has weight reduction, it can launch faster than the plaid even with RW, the demon level center of gravity is placed to help the RWD of the car hold more of the cars weight in a launch, plaid uses chetah stance to compensatefornits center of gravity, there is a reason the fastest drag cars are RWD and not AWD.
O por Dios, 😮 desde cuándo deseaba esa carrera entre esos dos autos y mi sueño se hizo realidad, bueno no tan realidad, ya que me gustaría verlos y conducirlos en persona, muy buen video, saludos desde México ❤
American Muscle vs American Muscle = 🔥
Is Dodge American?
@@xxZerosumxx Yeah
Can you really say that about anything today. Nope. Dodge is a melting pot of parts from Mercedes to Austrian to American while manufactured in Canada sold in America lmfao owned by stalantis. The motor is American designed and the styling is American but the motor plant is in Mexico 🤣 just like gm and ford. It’s because of the mighty dollar get a cheaper country to make it and sell it for more to us. They all do it and it should be illegal. Imagine if all these jobs were opened and companies had to pay Americans not allowed to skim off the top so hard required to pay good wages with good quality control. We would have the most technologically advanced tech in the world. but it’s not about quality that only seems to happen when time passes and the people get bored of the level forcing companies to make better stuff or competition happens between companies then we benefit but even then it’s still who can do it on the cheap otherwise do you think the demon would have an IHI blower and not a whipple 3.0 or 3.8l 🤣 💰. Facts are a 15 hellcat can make more power than that c170 with simple bolt ons and e85 🤣 they can be got for 50k and modded for 12-30k. Racer x had a hellcat that I bet would eat this demon with a little love heavier for so much less money.
No
The demon is built in Canada . The plaid is built in California so it’s American muscle against Canadian muscle. 😂
@@xxZerosumxx not really Dodge is owned by Fiat Chrysler group, which is owned 60% by Italian Fiat AG , also the demon is built in Canada.
No the US. Just saying 😮
Its crazy what it takes to beat a Tesla.
Everything
Iroz Rs3, easy work.
A 2000hp engine 😂😂😂
It's crazy what it takes to beat a powerful AWD EV, you mean. Unless you move to crazy tuned cars you gotta go to other AWD EVs. And now there are a few out there significantly faster than the Plaid.
AWD and 1500hp outta do it. Twin turbo Lamborghini or highly modded R8 or GTR would do it. Impressive though.
Tesla Model S Plaid all the way, though for me it'll more likely be the new Model 3 Performance. Thanks for the racing! Exciting stuff. The extra mass of the Tesla from the batteries doesn't hurt either. Low center of gravity and all that. Imagine Teslas 5 years from now if there's lighter battery tech and/or the Tesla Roadster 2.0 with SpaceX cold gas thrusters. :D
Those wheels on the blue Lambo at the beginning of the video are super cool.
Its going to be all about reaction time and traction limited to the dodge we all know that the ev doesn't have traction problems
Nope, reaction wasn't what doomed the demon
@@TeslaP3D
That's my opinion before you anyone else see the real video
I'm really looking forward to see what the Plaid Plus will do
Wasn't it cancelled 2 years ago?
Cancelled...... but the Roadster is coming.
@@Wirmish We've heard that for 6-7 years now.
@@Wirmishroadster was announced in 2018 now its been 6 years
Those camera are also causing a noticeable amount of drag. Shed the cameras and decrease your drag coefficient.
The fact this comment section is just people who love cars in general is epic. I love both ICE and EV when done right. The respect here is real.
Jesus christ the plaid is unbeatable lol. Good job elon for making it 90k. I hope it stays that way. We all need to be driving plaids!!!!
Amen to that!🎅
You just saw the release of the Cybertruck smoking 911. 2024 will be spectacular for Tesla. The M3P ludicrous highland is coming with 700-750hp and under 10s. 4680 S and X models coming in 2024 followed by the 1200hp Roadster ⚡️🇺🇸
@@larryc1616 1200hp roadster? 😂 I will be disappointed if it isn't closer to 2000hp or at least faster than the Rimac
@@lukabosnjak3829 1200hp/3800lbs is faster than 1900hp/5000lbs. Nevera runs mid 8's with old ev tech. 1000lbs lighter 18650/1000hp S Plaid will theoretically run low 8's. The 4680 Roadster is 1000lbs lighter than the 4800lbs/18650 S Plaid and 200hp more. 1200hp Roadster will easily go 8.0 until a quad motor option 1600hp and 7's
@@larryc1616 I thought they scrapped the M3P "plaid" version though? I know they said they couldn't call it a plaid but i did not hear anything about a 700-750hp version though. Because if they did that, what price range would they put it under? It can't touch the 70k mark because then it'll start dipping into the model s long range price and that car already runs 10.6. Either way i do wish they announce the next gen model s plaid. The M3 is too small. Model s is the perfect size. But yes this is very exciting for tesla fans. People keep saying tesla will fall but it looks like car makers are backing out because they can't compete with the master at EV.
Wow. The Demon is slow enough to see the Teslas time before it finishes!!!
🤣🤣🤣 this comment is pure wickedness.
😂💀
If you spin it's not a good measure of how fast the car is. The car is only as fast as the prep will hold unfortunately
@@RacerX9Trap tells an even clearer picture. I know you say the boards were reading trap and ET accurately...... but they weren't reading brooks correctly either. Dude has a SOLID 4 mph on you my guy. Well be even worse, should you run a plaid that's gutted like your now exorcized 😈. Sell the thing while there are still people stupid enough to hand over their firstborn for those demons, and pick up a plaid for $65K 😂
@@CharlesbjtownBrooke’s cars traps lower because he has 30k miles and teslas lose some performance as the battery deteriorates. Bone stock 170s have already trapped 147-150
Such a cool noise 🤤
Man if that demon wouldn't bunny hop it would be close, that plaid is crazy tho, factory off the lot. Only car I seen beat one was that Lucid sapphire. I would take either or.
The Demon is a collectors item.
Just because a company can now sell a car without a passenger seat knowing no one will buy it, it's a really pathetic excuse to say it's stock. Anyone can take of a passenger seat, it's just ridiculous. The games even the company wants to play for their owners is embarrassing.
Pretty wild a $80,000 (before any discounts) car comes with a nice interior and 1,025hp. Pretty much blow the doors off of anything out there while having heated seats on and listening to Spotify lol
The launch of the Plaid is part of it, once it's going the extra 600lbs is less of a factor than the aero. The Dodge has about the same frontal area & fender height as my OBS Chevy vs the sleeker Tesla.
For the price the Telsa MSP is an absolute bargain.
Also, now dealer markups.
@@gnoxycatyeah the straw buying and 200k+ markup is disgusting. The car market needs a complete revamp
But that piece of crap Tesla that you praise so highly will never outlive a gasoline powered vehicle.
The 170 needs too many variables or excuses to get any consistency! Despite our reluctance, the best technology always win!
Its also the 170 drivers first day at the track. Keep that in mind as well.
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nitro methane is best tecnology 😎
@@uraniumcranium2613 Yea, cow fart cut it! The flame from the exhaust will explode!!
I like how the driver of the Plaid made it out to be so difficult, stepping on the gas pedal. Lol
What gas pedal 😂
@AH-lx5nj Right! I mean the long flat thing to the right. He he
He probably plenty of experience driving that tesla after driving golf carts on the golf course 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@spockfpv Lmao, volt pedal? Electro pedal? Wtf would they call it? Lithium pedal!?
Perfectly prepped track, still VERY hard to hook it up.
There’s more to quick quarters than mere power.