Britta Perry - Community Deep Dive (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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Continuing the deep dive video essay into Dan Harmon's Community. This video gets into the hilarious Britta Perry, everyone's favorite anarchist/activist. The last video went into a lot of details about the whole show but this one is all about Britta...
And beyond Britta this video attempts to show anyone watching that Community is one of the best tv shows in the Universe.
PART ONE: • Community - The Deepes...
Britta Perry does not have an insincere bone in her entire body.
She can be naive, stubborn, wrong-headed, confrontational, obsessive, and severely lacking in personal boundaries.
But she will mean every word she says, and I respect the hell out of that.
you have a point. I liked community for years, but the last time I watched it, I compared the greendale 7 to its always sunny's the gang. but britta is a better human being than any of the always sunny gang. she is probably the least scheming of the greendale 7
Gillian Jacobs does some of the best face-acting in the history of acting.
Vacuous mannequin face
@@cognitivedissonance8406 love that description
Yes, very punchable
I don't think Britta got stupider over the seasons, she's got more relaxed with her friends and her surrounding allowing her to be more open.
Plus the uptake in weed
totally agree. it just took some time to get to know her and for her to get comfortable. same with a lot of characters. like Troy, at first he was just tough guy football dude and it took being better friends with everyone before his real personality came out.
yup that's how people usually are
"An idea wearing another idea's hat" -- great line and a great examination of this unique and amazing series.
*thought
This is probably the only video essay I've seen dedicated to Britta it was as awesome as ordering half a dozen bagels and walking away with 7 baggels
Bag-els
@@_BusterHighmen wooosh
I’ll be honest, I don’t understand all the hate Britta gets in the later seasons. Yes she’s a bit ditzy, erratic, impulsive, and needlessly political (sometimes more than a bit 🤣)… but she was ALWAYS like that, especially starting in the second half of S1 when she stopped being primarily focused on improving Jeff and keeping him at arm’s length and started opening up and being herself. I’d even argue that S2 Britta was the worst in this regard of being the caricature everyone hates, at least in the Harmon seasons; S4 is another story 🙄 Even in S5 and 6 there are plenty of moments when the old Britta, the smart, common-sense, altruistic idealist, comes through. Britta is definitely my favorite character and the one I relate to the most.
Intersting. Because for me, my major issue with season 6 (which I actually think was pretty good) was that I didn't see any of that side of Britta anymore. All I can really recall her doing in season 6 was putting her foot in her mouth, pooping herself, and being mocked by the group. I did like the episode with her parents and her resentment issues towards them because that really is a logical background fro someone like Britta.
The one moment I think that pushed people over the edge is when she looked her pants in S6 (I think episode 2, the Ruffles episode). I also thought that was just a little too much, but for the most part it was just Britta being Britta with all her flaws and that's great. For Britta to evolve into a flawless and successful character she would have to not be Britta anymore, if that makes any sense.
I believe the term is "needlessly defiant."
Same
the dice episode makes it clear that everyone's just following jeff's lead
this deep dive really is streets ahead.
Britta is based as fuck
No she ain't
😂☠️😂@@suckoneczito04h51 good luck 🐑
As a new Community fan who has in the last 5 months watched it twice, then once again with commentaries, then twice more, and who is watching it now with a significant other, I'd like to acknowledge this 2 part series of yours as the best analysis I've seen.
My 2 favorite characters are Abed and Britta, but she rarely gets the attention he does, or the respect her history deserves.
Her arc is for me the most troubling. I can't help but wonder if she wouldn't have been better off going back to some overseas nonprofit gig instead of trying to normalize.
I've subscribed and I'll be binging your other videos. Thanks!
Thank you S F! Yes if I really had to choose a fav it would be hard, either Britta or Abed. Someday I'll make an Abed video, although his arc is also a little troubling.
There are COMMENTARIES?!?!?! Thank you for enlightening me
@@dawnhazell2697 yes the bluray set has commentaries for almost every episode some seasons. On s6 they aren't listed but can be accessed through bluray player remote.
Enjoy!
Wow, I was not expecting this deep dive to go so deep. I absolutely adore Britta and you not only mentioned all the reasons why I love her but also helped me understand her and many other things much deeper than I ever thought capable. Thank you very much for such a sincerely well-written video.
6 seasons and a movie 🙏
I'm giving this video the first ever 6 Meow-Meow-Beans, because as the app says, "It's all a bunch of made up bullshit, anyway!"
Seriously though, I've watched a lot of Community commentary videos on youtube, and this is the first one that has really expanded my understanding of the show in any meaningful way. Great job!
(I especially enjoyed -- "Three words: Gupta...")
Thanks for the encouragement!
This is a fantastic 2 parter. I've always liked Britta, but you've convinced me that she is vastly underrated and perhaps the best character on the show.
But you might want to take that with a grain of salt, I've been told I'm a level 7 susceptible.
Here, have a cookie! WAND!...I mean have a wand! *whew crisis averted*
really, thank you for this video. Britta is one of my fav characters and this vid tied all the points I couldn't coin myself.
Also, that scene when Troy tells her she's the best is peak fucking character development.
Please distinguish between a government taking away rights (e.g. post 9/11) and the current state of societal repression that is stifling free speech (via social shaming and stigmatization). They are different mechanisms with completely different risks. You might also, if you haven't already, learn about free speech rights in other liberal democracies besides the US, where there usually ARE limits to things like hate speech -- limits put in place based on a painful experience of fascism and genocide and the knowledge of how that happens. Anyway, it's a topic that deserves more nuance than you provide here. BUT I loved this video, loved Britta, and would love to see more!!
For me, Britta ❤ was and is never the worst and certainly not the buzz kill. Because a large part of Britta lives in me and I know from experience that others don't like it or have problems with it. - Thanks for the beautiful, interesting and surprising video! From an older woman who still likes Community very much and still goes to the bathroom by herself until the day she might not be able to anymore 😉😄
Race against the machine
Wow, beautifully put. Thank you so much.
Awww
I would go to the bathroom with you, my friend, neither of us would have to pee alone anymore
@@adrianapignolo 😊 I think my post was not understandable!? I like to go to the bathroom alone. And I think Britta also liked to do it and took it for granted until Shirley pushed it on her with her way of playing along. Then Shirley got mad because Britta didn't play the game the way she wanted and treated Britta like one of her children: go on the bathroom with Annie and fix it, show what you've learned from me. Britta played along with all that crap so as not to offend. Or, Shirley first came up with the idea of doing something wrong. Britta didn't do anything wrong! There is no obligation to run to the bathroom with others! And Shirley only showed with her behavior towards Britta that she doesn't respect Britta. -
My personal arguments against "going to the bathroom with others" : it has always bothered me in the school bathroom, in discos, in pubs, at events etc. that two or more girls use the public washroom for their own private conversations, quarrels, gossip or tossing around problems. Above all, that they mostly stand in the way in the small rooms and hinder others. If you want to clarify private problems with someone, yell at each other or gossip about others etc. You can do it somewhere else in privat! And don't get on everyone else's nerves. My 2 Cents why I go to the bathroom alone 😉
I hope you can read/understand it, English is not my first language.
yeah, well. there is still the paradox of tolerance: tolerate intolerance and it won't be long until you will not be tolerated anymore. (weak paraphrasing of karl popper)
This concept is an obvious slippery slope fallacy and not a real paradox. You can't tolerate intolerance, because deeming someone intolerant is itself intolerance, meaning you are simply being passively intolerant, which isn't a paradox. More importantly, the entire argument is based on this idea that we can't allow intolerant people to speak, because apparently they are not only more convincing than tolerant people are, but so good at speaking that they'll be able to convince most of the modern world and its institutions to embrace their intolerant beliefs, which is one helluva stretch.
@@jyllianrainbow7371 nobody is "deemed intolerant" they are, or they are not. and no, intolerance is not convincing by its argumentative strength, it convinces by violence. as long as intolerance only speaks, it merely accumulates the already convinced but when it acts it suppresses the weak (not judging. there are many reasons why one could be considered weak this is a whole new topic) and attacks those fighting back. and then some smug people come out and say: "these two are the same"
lol no that’s such a dumbass argument
I'm a machinist by trade, actually I'm a tool and Die Maker, I utilize tool room equipment to make tooling thar makes parts. Geometry, physics, and dimensions make up the bulk of my professional life. Hitting numbers is life. The way you people use the word tolerance is insane. Also I'm proud to say that I practice right wing values in life. I'm not sure why I like community or how I ended up here
My friend, stitch these two parts together and submit it to festivals because I think you may have created the best documentary and retrospective of the last 20 years that I've seen. It helps that I love Community so much, but you've made something that says a lot more than an explainer about a character on the TV show. To explain the character, you have to explain the show, explain the world of shows the show exists in, and then explain the world that created the shows' world. Very good work.
This made me cry in the end. This show is so multi-layered and complex and your analysis of what goes on in the world with politics now is interesting. I was so relieved and glad when I saw the Gupta episode that back in 2015 people began noticing the dawn of this thought policing age we are in now and called it out. I believe the deepest underlying theme throughout the entire series is the desire for something that is in the name of the show - a community. Loneliness is one of the worst things that can happen to a human being, and Gillian Jacobs expressed her gratitude of feeling like one in a community and having escaped loneliness. The way people in general before were able to disagree with people in their community but still continue to be friends made us less lonely and divided and more of a community. If this studygroup weren't able to do that, this group of friends wouldn't exist and we wouldn't have the opportunity to enjoy this show and they wouldn't have the opportunity to enjoy and love each other.
Thank you very much for this comment. Very well stated: "the dawn of this thought policing age." I've also noticed that the Community community is a very special one. I really liked how Gillian said that about her experience of the show. That almost didn't make the cut, I found it right at the very end.
@@gross_john You're wellcome. Good thing you found it. Interesting, in what way do you think the Community community is special?
@@spashia7028 I think that people really love the characters much more than with other shows of this sort and you can feel that. I don't think there's a remaining fandom for other more popular shows from that era (like 30 Rock or Parks and Recreation). I'm guessing a lot of that is due to the extra effort that Harmon put in. And it's such good cast.
@@gross_john Yeah I think there is something to this. The characters kind of feels like your friends in a way. Maybe it is that the eighth chair is said to be the chair of the audience aswell as the meta way the series is made. It breaks down barriers in a way and speaks directly to us. And yes the cast is really good. They fit together so well. 😊 Even Pierce/Chevy 😛
This is a lovely, thoughtful video made with a lot of heart, and I was glad to see it touch on the theme of acceptance in a way it is not often approached now. Good job!
I can't believe you only have 22 subscribers, this series was amazing. Watched both of them in one sitting. Keep it up!
thanks Andrew, I appreciate it! I just got started here, so I think it takes some time.
269 now woo hoo
@@gross_john It’s hard to appreciate your hard work because you sound like you are being forced to do this voicework. If the music wasn’t so loud, I might have dozed off in the first five.
I’d recommend this as a place to practice and expect nothing in return except the practicing experience, but pursue something in real life with more energy, maybe related to the passion you have to do this.
@@tempsitch5632 This video is absolutely great! I enjoyed his voice. Even if it sounds contrary to the upbeat vibe of Community to you, this is the yin to Community's yang; the perfect balance.
I think you have missed one pivotal Britta moment which also appeared in S.6,Ep.6. After the airing of greivences, regarding the emails, culminating in the gut wrenching exchange with Frankie and Chang, Britta takes the responsibility to announce that the group has reached "rock bottom". A line that could only have been delivered by The Master Herself, Gillian Jacobs. I feel that for the remainder of the show, after that moment, the group had shed an old skin and began to care deeply for each other, unencumbered by selfish motivation.
"I read it all! I read all your crap!" very good point. there have been a few rock bottoms, but that was definitely the deepest one, the heaviest one
@@gross_john Thank you for reading my crap and for your input to the "Community" community.
That's one of her best episodes, character-wise. She finally actualizes the highest, purest essence of her pre-group self.
@@OffRampTourist It seems that pre-group and in her private life, she has the most distinct separate life to the group. We, as the audience only see that part of her personality that manifests when she is with the group; her role being a quasi caricature. But, when it needed to get real, she brought it. If Community is a meta show within a show, Britta is the one most in touch with our reality that we watch from.
@@AnalPolyps she lived in New York. Everyone else seems to have only lived in Greendale
I absolutely loved your Community Deep Dive. Big fan of the show and you summed it up perfectly. I specially loved the part where you talked about the difference between parody and homage.
Thanks so much. Yeah they really do the homage right, such a better feeling than mockery
Bro whatched this 2 times now i need more deep dives
Thanks man I really appreciate the feedback! Working on it.
Thanks for this interesting and intriguing perspective on Britta! Community will always have a special place in my heart!
yeah me too. but I watched it too much, now I think im on a 1-2 year community break before can get into it again.
I'm so glad your video popped up on my feed! Music is a bit loud, but your edits are awesome. I hope you keep dissecting media like this.
Pop-pooooop!
Love the interspersed vedic references. Subscribed.
31:44 this is my absolute favorite Britta moment and now I feel I have a fuller understanding of why. This is a really great video, sub'd. Thank you.
Love the surrealist touches
This is quality stuff. I’ll subscribe and look forward to more Community content.
Thanks Patrick! There'll be more
I was enjoying the breakdown of Britta's characterization until it veered into "why can't we all get along even though we have political differences" sentiment. As a queer person, I've unfortunately heard that a lot from people who want to strip me of basic civil rights and liberties; and it's not something that is tolerable or acceptable in a friendship - or even in a voluntary acquaintance. You're right that Trump did change things: the radical, violent part of the country that wants a lot of the rest of us dead became more visible, more vocal, and more numerous. When I think about today's political landscape and Britta's flaws, I think of Season 2 Episode 6, "Epidemiology". There's the obvious pandemic parallel, and also the hubris of thinking oneself exempt and immune to the systems of influence around us. Britta's main conceit throughout the show is wanting to be liked, often at the expense of actually doing anything helpful or empathetic. She serves as a mirror to Jeff, in that way. And the exaggerated portrayal of her grandstanding on social and political issues is a gorgeous lampoon of people who seek social power and acclaim by leveraging those issues with no regard to the people actually oppressed by systems of violence and inequality. But where Jeff is a suave shyster who makes everyone feel good about how things are, Britta is the abrasive shrew who forces everyone to confront the ugliness underpinning our world and way of life. In many ways, she is absolutely necessary to the show, which itself seeks to strip away the glossy veneer of a sitcom to find a more real, human element underneath. She is, in fact, the filter through which we need to pass in order to enjoy the friendship of the group. Think of how intolerable the show would be if there was no one to loudly counter Pierce for being explicitly awful. Think of the way in which her desire to help others directly lead to Abed continuing his education in film. Think of the ways in which she clearly demonstrates the clumsiness and fragility of performative ally-ship: often hurting her friends in the process of trying to make herself look good. The group only continues to be her friend because she learns her lessons throughout the series and actively demonstrates growth ("maintenance" of the relationship - which requires hurt parties to name the hurt, and for the hurt to cease). But the thing about friendship is: it cannot be mandatory. It cannot be imposed. It has to be freely given. And if Britta never showed signs of learning and improving, the group would not be her friend. Even Pierce showed signs of learning and improving, which allows the audience to suspend disbelief that the others would continue to hang around him. If someone behaved the way Pierce did in my real life, week after week, of course I would not be friends with them. Of course I cannot tolerate someone's beliefs, if their beliefs put me or my loved ones in direct danger (which is not hyperbole, if you've been paying attention not only to contemporary events, but also to the way the politics of the past have gone for minorities). A college cancelling a speaker or entertainer who actively promotes harm to members of the student body is not, in fact, curtailing Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech means the government can't jail and punish you for most of what you say. (The government absolutely has exceptions that they will punish people for.) What Freedom of Speech doesn't mean is that everyone has to listen to what everyone else says, or that we can't shut the door in their face, or drown them out with music and laughter. What was one thing that the group lost in the episode with Gupta Gupti Gupta? They lost Neil's friendship. Because Neil, the only one who came in support of their ideal, was forced to sit through targeted ridicule over his weight - the kind of targeted cruelty that almost drove him to end it all in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. After the study group held him down and prevented him from leaving while Triple G mocked his weight, Neil told the group he would never speak to them again. And rightfully so. No one is supposed to feel good about how that episode went down. Everyone in that episode lost. Sometimes, revealing and addressing harmful behaviors helps relationships to grow by allowing for change. But sometimes it's a line in the sand, and the most self-respecting thing you can do is follow Neil out the door. TL;DR - Britta is the filter, loudly isolating the show's crap and irony, and thereby making the show's messages clearer. But just acknowledging crap is no excuse for letting it fester. Change is good, especially for filters.
THIS
Plus, freedom of speech is not freedom of platform. Triple G can say whatever he wants in his own home, but if the entire school is saying "we dont want this," they have every right to deplatform him.
As a fellow queer person, I've never understood the "I know they hate you, but just ignore it 🙃" line of reasoning.
I'm late to this conversation, but freedom of speech is something you either believe in or you don't.
It's not freedom of speech that only includes what you want to hear.
There are exceptions, such as slander, libel, and things like yelling FIRE in a crowded venue.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you're exempt from the consequences of what you say either. If a public figure says something offensive, the public can collectively boycott that person, like Mel Gibson or Chick-fil-A (whyyyy?!?! Its hard to boycott such a delicious chicken sandwich and the most effective and best run drive through I've ever seen. Why couldn't they have just not said anything? Its obvious what their values are based solely on being closed on Sundays). Regarding public figures, the public can easily vote/boycott with their wallets. Don't go a movie, show, or anything else involving that person.
The idea of potential consequences of freedom of speech can be terrifying. However, to take away that right opens the door to way more suppression and banning books, ideas, etc. I don't necessarily have to agree with things people say, but I do believe they have the right to say them, whether I agree with them or not. Also, I think everyone should try to listen to the other side on opposing view points, not to change anyone's mind, but to try to understand why they feel the way they do.
It's difficult to know where to draw the line, I agree. To knowingly lie from a public platform (Alex Jones, Fox News, etc.) doesn't seem like free speech to me, and those people should be charged with slander or libel or something.
I've noticed clicking links 10+ years old online are almost always gone. To me, that reminds me of 1984. Anything on the internet can be removed much easier than a physical book or newspaper. It's exactly what that book used/warned as an example of a future dystopian civilization.
I know this was a long dissertation, but I truly feel that if one person isn't allowed the freedom of speech that we're guaranteed in the Constitution, then it can (and almost definitely will) quickly silence many others. If you don't want to hear or don't agree with a person or message, then don't give them attention or money. I'll admit, I'm seeing things right now that absolutely terrify me, but I believe in the right to free speech.
loving your deep dives on my favorite show but also subbed because you used the Scarface theme
dude this is so good!
Omg, I am an India. I am thrilled that you incorporated Hinduism into your essay
Both your Community dive videos are very well put together. In a way they reminded me of Mr. Plinkett's reviews (Red Letter Media) - well researched and put together with great care. Yours are less "negative" though. :) Great job, man!
Wow thanks, I love Red Letter Media
well done.
Britta *is* the best. Thank you for making this well thought out and well researched documentary.
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!
This was awesome!!!
This was so good!
thanks David!
I generally liked your analysis, but I don’t have the same take on the free speech situation. There is a difference between having the freedom to say something and giving someone a platform to say it. I can say the sky is green, but that doesn’t mean anyone is giving me a platform in a publication or a college, etc to legitimize that claim and them not doing that isn’t violating freedom of speech. It’s simply them choosing to platform that represents their views. It is not illegal to say transphobic things and JK Rowling and the BBC can say plenty of them loudly, but because of their platform them having the freedom to say that without question has been correlated with an increase in violence against trans people and has also led to an increase transphobic laws in the UK, which violates trans peoples rights a lot more viscerally than a couple places not platforming JK Rowling who will say what she would anyway on Twitter without censorship. While yes, hearing from a diverse number of perspectives is important, perspectives that directly promote harm (and are often minimized as ‘offensive’) should be handled with care and with context because one persons right to freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from being questioned or freedom to say it anywhere whether their welcome or not and, I think most people would agree, doesn’t super cède anyones right to not be discriminated against or physical violence due to prejudice their speech promoted.
So while yes, I do think you nailed down the difference, the implicit message that new leftists are encroaching on rights and being totalarian comes off to me as a misread of the situation and of who’s rights are actually being denied (and that doesn’t just apply to trans people, it was just the example I could most readily think of).
I generally enjoyed the rest of your analysis and thought that between parts 1 and 2 you did a good job of breaking down the parts of the show and characterization that really worked. I hope in the future you can bring as much detailed analysis and empathy (a word which is still prevalent on the left) to your political analyses as you do your media ones.
I felt the same way. I enjoyed this video but I do think it painted the left with a broad brush, while not being critical enough about the reasons the conversation has shifted. While I do think parts of the leftist internet have become extremely ugly (in particular I think of the abuse of certain RUclipsrs who made slight missteps and got driven off the platform for it), they are very much the loud minority.
I guess that is part of the point; the way the internet magnifies and indulges our wrath to an unhealthy level. But as a lefty who is legitimately concerned with the amount the right gets away with, I am confused about what the proposed solution is. I feel like the video strays close to advocating centrism (i.e. inaction), the non-ideology I find if anything all to common and just as harmful as the extremes, since all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing.
Also the conflation of certain ideas... in my country, "liberal" and "left" don't mean the same thing at all, and the understanding of the left-right spectrum presented here is perhaps a little 2-dimensional. I get it's in the context of American politics, which always seems rather rigid to me. Just maybe could have used more nuance.
I too enjoyed the video though, as a Community fan.
Thanks for this well thought out comment. This was very compelling.
The free speech debate has always been a hard one and I just mentioned it very basically. I'm not the one to solve this problem, but it's always been the same problem. Free speech means offensive, nasty and hateful speech is also protected. You definitely understand this.
We all know there are limits to free speech. Not everything can be allowed. The issue with that is who defines what's allowed and what's not allowed? Who defines "harm?" Who defines "misinformation?" Biden Admin one day defines it and then imagine if Trump Admin defines it the next day. In my opinion it's best not to go down that road. It's just begging for a dictator, or corporate overlord. And once you give the government a power, they rarely if ever relinquish it.
And also there are already unspoken social repercussions for using certain words, having hateful views etc. Most people immediately disassociate from toxic extremist people.
And of course with the internet this has all become so much harder to navigate.
I'm not decided yet on platforming and deplatforming. Is social media becoming a right? It's also complicated b/c for the most part, people aren't given big platforms, they earn them and their platforms grow if people want to hear what they're saying. They're only given the ability to try. At least I think that's how it works mostly. I know certain big places like big Media companies are algorithmically propped up. But it does kind of seem like deplatforming is "silencing" someone. Especially now as we all use these platforms to communicate and many people use them for income.
@@gross_john Something I find interesting about the free speech debate is that the people who are arguing that we're heading towards a more totalitiarian state are usually the people who have been benefitting the most (or at the very least, victimized the least ) from how things have been in the past. In other words, the people who aren't already living in that world. What do you think that says about a movement? What is it about it that you think might make it seem less appealing to members of marginalized communities?
There are obviously exceptions to this, but if you look at the tweets from the people the most excited about Elon Musk's acquisition of twitter, you're going to find a lot of people expressing excitement over being free to harrass trans people again. For context, the former CEO of twitter put their anti-harrasment rules in place because they looked to the experts (psychologists) and realized that trans people were being pushed to literal suicide on their platform. So they put a stop to it. But then free speech advocate Elon Musk came along to save the day and now cisgendered people all over the world are expressing glee over their regained "right" to attack trans people again.
Advocates liked to claim that they were just being banned just for "refusing to use someone's pronouns", but that completely ignores the fact that they were refusing to use their pronouns because they wanted to cause harm to them because they're trans. That is harrassment, which most people generally agree shouldn't be allowed on social media platforms (or anywhere). The only way to suggest that it's not harrassment is to dismiss the very real and very observable suffering of the trans community, and instead to think only of the transphobes' loosely defined, abstract concept of freedom of speech. That is a very twisted priority system in my humble opinion.
It's really not that hard to figure out what is and isn't harm. Literally all you have to do is listen. If a group is telling you that something is harming them, listen. If experts are saying that something causes harm. listen. It doesn't have to be a conversation.
ETA Reading this back I realize it comes off a bit heated lol. To clarify, the "you" I'm talking about here isn't "you" the person, it's just an easier way of addressing the movement as a whole. Nothing personal!
She’s pure
I identify with Britta.
seems kinda strange to call out the left for limiting free speech. Sure, some terminally online people on social media platforms can be annoying, but it’s the massively wealthy corporations that have the ability to do content moderation. Legislatively, it’s the right that is attacking free speech (and of course has always opposed free speech), with the anti-CRT laws and anti-LGBT bills. While some so called “leftists” can be annoying interpersonally, institutionally the right has vastly more power and is utilizing much more of its political capital relatively speaking on limiting free speech than the left
agreed
This comment literally the day Biden announces a "Disinformation Governance Board." Sounds like you're in an echo chamber. It's best to find news sources outside the MSM.
Sorry for popping off like this. You seem sincere, just misled or under-informed on these issues you're talking about. CRT is an ugly and hateful ideology that racializes everything. It's not black history. It tells white kids they are oppressors and black kids they are victims. You should read some of it. It just creates division. It doesn't heal anything....Also the "anti-LGBT" bill you're talking about is the one called "Don't Say Gay Bill" I think? Forgive me if I'm wrong. But that Bill is about teachers not talking about sexuality to children before a certain age, it refers to gay, straight, whatever. It's about not sexualizing children. You can look up the Bill and read it. Calling it "Don't Say Gay" is misleading propaganda.
That doesn’t benefit the narrative!
Notice how at the end of the video he lists some silly insults like "snowflake" and "sjw" alongside phrases like "white supremacist" and "racist"? I feel like that says about his perspective (or lack thereof).
I say "I am stapling" every time I staple now. I look around my places of work for people who get it. And all I get is plate of white lies...I mean blank stares.
Great
Britta for the win!
Comment notification brought me back 11 months on and reminded me I meant to thank you for covering the best episode - which I hadn't seen because I had watched twice through on Netflix. Totally agree re significance to the series and to the characters. If you haven't seen this episode you can't really understand anything after from Pierce.
32:36 I love how the entire episode happens because she wants to champion Gupta's free speech but then slips in that she still wants to protest to ban him from schools across America 😂
Needlessly defiant, indeed
B might be the funniest character on the show
Chang: "You just got yourself a warning" 😂😂😂
23:18
just now recognizing britta's yuliya timoshenko hair-do
man i just wish i bought a Totorola
Great episode, man.
This is a fantastic video! Can you do a deep dive on the other characters?
good work brother , im gonna watch this tonight!!
thanks dude!
just wondering, with the nice comp videos you've been making, how many times have you watched the series completely?
@@gross_john I think its about 9 times all the way through, each time my fav character has changed , the first watch my fav was pierce my last was abed.
@@abccinema1 nice, I'd say its 4-5 for me. I do like Abed more and more as I watch. But he really did falter after Troy left.
I just finished the entirety of Community. I put off finishing it because I really didn't want for the show to end. Call me dramatic but that's how I love the show. Anw, your deep dives have comforted me somehow.
I feel like this definitely should have been 2 videos, one actually looking at Britta and then another going off on nonsensical rants about politics, especially considering how ur own personal political beliefs were very obviously pushed.
Yes, he "pushes" his ideas in his own video, with his own ideas... how dare he?
@@adrianapignolo didn't say he couldn't, but it's not really relevant. Notice how I said it should have been 2 parts, rather then me saying he should just cut the bits out
exactly, i didnt sign up to listen to some clueless white guy shitting on the left for 30 minutes
Great video, but you did fall prey to the unfortunate American cultural brainwashing of thinking 'communism' is the equivalent leftist extreme to right wing fascism. Communism doesn't mean what you think it does, and recent states that called themselves communist were just dictatorships much like any other. They kept employing the rhetoric of communism because they were established in revolutions powered by communist ideology, but once established they mostly threw that ideology away and behaved like any other totalitarian state. Actual leftist 'extremism' would be radical anarchism: No governments at all. Which is something Britta constantly hints towards in her rants, but can never bring herself to actually advocate for, kinda like Harmon himself.
Yes, interesting point. The video acknowledges Communism and Fascism in practice have always ended up the same, brutal dictatorships. They police everything, control all knowledge and narratives, punish and kill political dissidents, prop up an elite ruling class etc. So yeah you're taking about Anarcho-Communism? Yes that's different and yeah Britta advocates for that in some places for sure ("I believe that humankind need not be governed." S02E17). I think most sane people know too much power in the hands of anyone (political or business) is dangerous and a certain amount of anarchism is very healthy....
Theres also the question of Left and Right. I think what is hinted at here (and in history) that pushing far far left and far far right lead ironically to the same place. So the whole L/R political diagram should actually be viewed as a kind of circle or a sphere where the L/R go to opposite sides at first and then slowly converge on the same point. At least that's what's happened so far.
@@gross_john Pls educate yourself, that theory is debunked af.
@@lazylegolars Please explain how. What, has 20th Century history changed? Saying something is 'uneducated' or 'debunked' doesn't prove or disprove anything.
@gross John someone’s been watching Peaky Fck’in Blinders
I don't think the far left is a direct opposite to the far right or can be directly compared. Feeding into the extreme example, Nazi ideas are inherently violent, communist ideas can be all to do with distributing resources equally, but became corrupted into violence in practice. I mean, left vs right is not as easily simplified as Nazi vs Communist, people on both 'sides' could be rightfully perturbed by that dichotomy if they had a mind to be.
Conservative politics can mean very cautious of change, traditional, sometimes accepting, sometimes not, because I am on the left, I have maybe too few examples in my head of the tolerance that I know can happen in right wing spaces just as left, and the nuances of the values and good qualities of people who are on the right. I am not saying the left isn' t without it's unique problems or hypocrisy. But it can't be an inherently bad thing to be an activist, when sometimes change is needed and sometimes it happens in part because of activism.
Activists often risk being hurt and hated, because an issue is just that important. And activists go wrong sometimes and sometimes make the wrong choices or turn into bullies or stop listening, but you can be very far left and taking action for very peaceful and productive, if idealistic goals...it really depends what you mean by far left. Also Chang isn't far left because those aren't his values. He is chaos for chaos's sake. I mean that sounds a bit punk rock, but he's not really for or against anything :/
Take this with a pinch of salt, I just don't think the left and right are an exact mirror, at least not until people lose sight of the actual ideas and start dog piling each other 😭 I have a bias towards the left, but I wish we lived in a time where it was easier to have a conversation either way. I've rambled too long, it's true... Xx
this video is amazing i love it
@24:17 That’s the girl from Troy’s back. Very believable pairing in this appearance.
yeah I always noticed that too. there' certain extras that pop up again and again.
@@gross_john She’s wearing that green shirt about three times in the show.
In this show at leastnit makes sense that you would see them repeatedly because they attend the same school. But in That 70’s Show there was an extra that would be any and everywhere. It was funny spotting him and the pseudo-reality that no matter where in that town the kids were, he was there.
Was enjoying this analysis but all the horseshoe theory stuff really threw me off. It’s a highly debated topic and ironically, you only present one side. The left brain right brain thing is also considered pseudoscience by many. The video would have stood up well without all that stuff so I really don’t understand why it was included.
Hi Ruby, thanks for watching and thanks for commenting.
Yes I there's not consensus on these topics but having done my own research I've adopted a perspective. If you'd like me to go into my takes on these two topics I can.
wow that was fantastic! such a great watch - thank you so much for making this (and part one).
grossathan jonathan dude this is amazing
Thank you, I'm new at this and really appreciate the feedback!
I love how close they were to torturing jeff with a kitchen of pain in the prank episode. This show is the best
I expected a certain hashtag at the end...
#andamovie
I'm glad some people still think it's possible. The further we go, the less likely it is. But it would still be awesome
#6SeasonsAndAMovie
Communism is a pretty broad concept and definitely not exclusive to authoritarianism. It just appears that way bc collective organization takes waaaay more work as well as the support of pretty much everyone involved, so authoritarian leaders are the only ones that have actually been able to make major moves. Political theory is not just a straight line with left and right, nor is it a horseshoe, it’s a whole spectrum. Most leftists support democracy and many are even anarchists which is as far from authoritarianism as you can get. It’s just that our current “democracy” (actually a republic) is completely controlled by big capital and its exponential growth is siphoning our resources. It’s hard to have faith in a system we’ve repeatedly watch fail its people
Not all authoritarianism is Communism, but all Communism is ultra authoritarian. There is no "spectrum". Cant believe it has to be repeated, it's 2022 people...
I guess when I said "Communism" I didn't mean as an idea or theory, I meant it as the way it's played out in history by those who have claimed to practice it. USSR, Cambodia, N.Korea, China etc. Authoritarian regimes that ended up killing and imprisoning millions of their own populations. So while the theory might sound nice, the practical application always ends up genocidal for some reason.
I hate what they did to Britta. I like the insufferable leftist angry girl, turning her into an idiot was the worst
Best community video BARR NUN.
Another great review. Do you have any plans to revisit Community
Thanks a lot. Yeah I have a few ideas for later. A video on the Meow Meow beans episode would be interesting.
It might be worthwhile sometime to do contrasting character studies of Abed and Jeff. To me they seem linked in a way n which Abed is the Soul of the show and Jeff is the body of the show. That would take some time to explain what I mean by that, but someday I'll try.
@@gross_john I'd love to see that.
@@gross_john and that!
chang and pierce's brief friendship at the carnival is one of my fav moments in the show lol
oh, britta’s in this
Well done :) who’s next?
Probably doing some Abed or Abed/Jeff comparison. Got a few ideas kicking around.
Starburns deep dive?
She's my favorite! 🥰
Gillian Jacobs is amazing.
I hope Gillian Jacobs uses this video on her next audition for a crazy good part
This isn't a very effective reading of Britta's politics. Basing the analysis on the G3 episode was a mistake because her political beliefs in that episode were inconsistent with the rest of the show, and her beliefs in the episode itself. You showed a clip demonstrating that with a joke: she claims to want to platform Gupta but then also says she'll work to ban him from campus which is the goal of her opposition.
All in all, the character isn't so much an anarchist as much as a mishmash of liberal ideals with the surface aesthetics of anarchism. It's network TV after all. If you're going to have a character support police abolition, you have to follow it with a dismissive punchline because abolition of oppressive institutions isn't acceptable to discuss positively. It's a built in trait of our entertainment industries. For example: it's not a rule at Disney that villains have to be gay people or vice versa. It's an unconscious trope built into character writing as a result of the Hayes Code, the predecessor of the MPAA.
If you want to examine Britta's character from a realistic anarchist perspective, a much better episode is meow meow beans. Britta, despite being opposed to authoritarians, becomes one in the obvious aesthetic of marxist leninists. The Ones don't have a color, symbol, or no flag at all. They have the simplified and glorified silhouette of Britta's face; the thing that gave her power is highlighted in her image. This is a satire of what's commonly called Great Man Theory which is an idea supported by authoritarians in which a special person in history must be the catalyst for authority and change. Anarchists believe that any person, even themselves, will be corrupted by power. Anarchists don't view the opposition to power as hypocritical. It's actually the greatest reason to oppose power and abolish structures that weild it.
This video talks a lot about politics but doesn't seem to understand the ideas it's critiquing. It's a whole lot of centrism incidentally turning into right wing apologetics. This is evidenced by the later part of the video showing a list of misnomers being shown on the screen that are claimed to be the result of both sides equally being too divisive, but it only show terms that are supposedly misrepresenting the right wing. Centrism in a right wing dominated political sphere only serves as a smoke screen to portray the message that the left has gotten "too radical" and platform the victim image used by right wingers to obtain power while representing any opposition as an attack. At one point the video even passively categorizes criticism as destructive. Blink and you'll miss it. It conflates consensus and authority by calling deplatforming censorship. You could argue that it's a form of censorship, but by not going further into that idea the video leans on the American shorthand in which censorship is a product of authority and governmental structure.
In short, these ideas are all lazy and the video is lacking understanding of its topic
Top notch criticism! Thanks!
oh, britta's in this?
you didn't Britta this video
I thought she was written to be the obnoxious white girl SJW/activist spewing ideologies (many of which the writers and showrunner wanted to ridicule), but this video showed me that she very much crafted to be a balanced character and person in the Community universe. I am now seeing her in a new light.
I like your point here about what liberalism used to look like before Trump and how tolerant it was. I lived in a pretty blue area during 2016 and I could see the tone change overnight after the election.
Wow! Great video!
Oh god Britta is my favourite character but did this need to turn into a video about cancel culture and forced diversity? Barf
Another great video , made me miss a time where people weren't so extreme and judgemental with their views .
Excellent 👍
Caring about “these issues” has nothing to do with leftism and everything to do with being awake and present.
This video was so intelligently scripted and thought provoking. I am shocked it has less than 200k views.
This show ruined Gillian Jacob’s career, we all know every time we see her in anything outside of community we say “oh, Brittas in this?”
this is awesome!
I think your absolutely right about Britta being the classic bleeding heart liberal. Same with Lisa in the early (and good) seasons of The Simpsons
Oh. Britta is in this.
🔥🔥🔥 Britta > Annie 🔥🔥
I started watching Community since the pilot aired on NBC. It is my 2nd favorite show due to the great writing and creativity and lack of preachiness and courage to not shy away from any joke- I feel like it was written by people who really understand comedy. The Simpsons is the only show I prefer - season 3 through 8 at least.
That said, this is one of the best Community commentary videos I have watched, if not the best. I think you have a great understanding of art and its place in society, and just how seriously (or not seriously) we should take it. That Dan Harmon clip comparing the show/sitcoms in general to a pizza was perfect 😄
What the HELL is 34:40 from
That is an animation from David O'reilly. One of my favorite animators. I think he's still on RUclips but if not he has a website. His most famous animation is called "The Exterior World." Highly recommend.
Good video but I thought the midnight express and Jim Cornette. Were going to make an appearance
Lots of romanticizing about what is essentially a character assassination. For those under 30 years old, you really don't understand the impact of Britta being close to Jeff in age as college freshmen later in life. Britta wasn't stupid or naive, the opposite in fact. She was Jeff's foil because she had done worldly stuff. Turning her into an airhead was a huge mistake. I wonder if it was a Megan Ganz situation.
This is some white libshit take. Acting like politics shouldn't define you is some privileged shit. You think gay people in 1980 were not directly affected by Ronald Reagan's policies. Politics affect people's everyday lives and can do horrible things to people, acting like we should all just get along is kinda crazy. I do think that there does need to be a space where people respect each other enough to have a conversation about things, to understand where people are coming from, and hopefully change minds. But that's kind of hard when one side actively litigates to put minorities below them . So I kinda agree, but not with the way you represent things.. I watched this video not expecting the most lukewarm of all political takes. Well made video though.
the Koog approves!
I'm honored!
I love Britta but it feels obvious at many points she was based on an ex-girlfriend of dan harmon he didn't like very much.
That political commentary is uneducated af.
Great argument brah, very convincing.