So, as of August 2024, the random "dice roll" element has been removed (yay!). So you'll only need to spin as many times as the Grade level. I.e., one spin for Grade 1, two spins for Grade 2, and so forth. This spells out the changes: ruclips.net/video/yDD3kyBFDLI/видео.html Happy Engineering!
I engineered my FSD and Thrusters, then quit playing after I realized what kind of grind was ahead of me. This guide though is really concise and leaves out all of the extra garbage of complaining, recommendations, tricks etc. and explains Engineering simply. That's a great thing. Now.... about that grind...
It gets easier to swallow when you realize that these upgrades are just a result of you playing the game, rather than the end goal itself. I think some people view having a fully engineered ship as the "end game" but in reality, they're just things that make the rest of the game a little smoother/easier. If you don't enjoy the gameplay, you aren't going to enjoy it more after upgrading as much as possible. That grinding mentality will always lead to burning out and giving it up. I hope that makes sense. It can certainly get discouraging when you make the decision to engineer out your modules, only to realize how long it will take you to achieve that. Personally, I don't recommend newer players focusing on engineering for quite a while. After you've played for a fair bit, you'll have a feel for what play styles, ships, and builds you actually enjoy and then by the time you commit to a path, you'll likely already have the majority of the necessary materials to get the upgrades you want. Much less "work" to do it that way then to focus on optimizing your ship before you know what to do with it. Elite Dangerous isn't a game that you win. It's a spaceship simulator. It's entirely about the journey. The only real "destination" is wherever you're currently flying towards, but you get to decide where that is and you get to set the pace. Don't rush it.
@@BigDaddyWes That's a great way of explaining it. I'm not super new. I have a few hundred hours in with some engineering. However while you can definitely play the game without grinding, you're also left out of a lot of the game, especially current events. Even after the engineering I've done with my ASP X, Krait Phantom, Cobra Mk III etc I don't even participate in any of the thargoid story or anything else going on. I won't last 20 seconds.
@Recon_19D3x You can't fight the Thargoids solo, but AX weapons are available for purchase, and good A-rated ships working in a wing can hold their own. I know there's some guides about how to attack the titans without engineering, too. Alternatively, you can rescue people from attacked starports. You can also run supply missions to repairing starports. Not being engineered places some restraints and creates extra challenges, but it doesn't absolutely lock you out of current events.
I just recently got into this game and I have to say that your guides are the most clear, concise, and least confusing out of all the ones I've watched. I've been very overwhelmed with learning everything, but your videos have been a huge part of making that not so scary! Thank you!!
I started playing befor odessy was released and stumbled around just doing things. I could not get my head around engineering. I got frustrated in Dec of last year and just stopped playing. I watched The Buur Pit video about new guides and came to see what you had to add. Well done sir! I get it. Time to get back in the cockpit, thank you!
I've been playing ED since release in 2014 and didn't know about skipping rhe grades as soon as the next level unlocks until about a year or 2 ago. I also didn't know about the EDO:Materials Helper tool. Will definitely be using that. Thank you!
I'm dreading going back to the bubble to work on engineering, but this video has been great to take away all of the confusion. It also highlights what FDev need to get right with the future improvements. Great work!
Thank you so much! I've been playing almost 500 hours, but aside from an FSD for my DBX, I've been avoiding the engineering grind due to its infamy, although I've been gathering materials here and there while bounty hunting. With the latest update, I've decided to give it a go, but I was confused as to why I'd unlocked Farseer at G4 but could only upgrade my equipment to G1. Looked around in various guides, but I didn't realize you could upgrade something multiple times until I saw your video. Thanks!!
2k hours in and completely failed to realise the value of the ED Engineer site! Thank you for this video, you gain a sub from me! I'll add it in the playlist on my new channel too.
The issue with the various way's of keeping track of what you have vs what you need, isn't updated in such away that it's totlally accurate. It take's a day or two, before the various site's I've utilize, to update my today's data, which will generally change by the time it's updated. Hint or spoiler alert, adding the experimental immediately after doing the first of 5 upgrade's, cause you after pinning the particual modual. Never having to go back and do it later.
Important work, well done! Engineering is much easier and faster as many a forum dad makes you think. PSA: dont finish the grades, jump to the next one when its unlocked! Farming HGEs is by far the fastest way to gather manufactured, for raws its the limpet & flak method either at crystaline shards or brain trees. For data just scan every ship infront in supercruise or while docking at any station, it will accumilate over time, but for the first upgrades visiting Jamesons crashed Cobra and potentially relogging provides a basic stock. Cant wait to see you do some pew pews with the lads in that FDL 🙂
Yup, I made it a point to call out that you can move onto the next grade without finishing the previous one at @9:40. Saves a lot of time, materials, and frustration. :)
Great guide, love the engineer app. Though I now have about 5 different modules at various grades so my shopping list looks quite big and complicated compared to the one you had. Though the app is really worth using :). I noticed this is 6 months old now, and that they were some recent changes by fdev to engineering -- other than more materials found etc, they said something about the wheel click spins are not random anymore. :) Q: If you upgrade a part to level >0 -- e.g. Heavy Duty, lvl 5 -- can you redo the part to have a different upgrade on it? e.g. FSD for range, but then decide you want something else, not range? or do you have to buy a new FSD ?
Yeah, if you have a lot going on at once, it might be a bit much. As far as the changes go, they took out the randomness, so now it just takes as many spins as the grade level. G1 = 1 spin, G2 = 2 spins, etc. Check this out: ruclips.net/video/yDD3kyBFDLI/видео.html
@@Mile13Gaming Cool thanks for the link. :) I thought it was something like this, but doesn't it also depend on the level you have with the engineer. I just arrived at a new one, did a G1 on my sensors, but took more than one spin, I think because my engineer level was only 1 as well.
Little late for me but thx for it anyway. Did not know I could jump straight to the next grade when available. Thought the grade effects were straight additive in numbers. Oh well, at least learned something. The farming methods are still a pain in the ass and I don't see the encouragement of normal folk doing those kind of repetitive work for stupid materials. At least the material traders give some options for exchanging mats when needed.
Yup. I made a video about farming Manufactured mats at Hot Jupiter. At least that one's kind of fun in a sadistic way. :) Driving around at Dav's Hope and relogging, meh.
Mats come easily if you just do some of everything. A little mining, Pew, SRV, DavsHope, Crashed Cobra/Conda, Murdering tourists. Then hit the traders.
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore, I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
At least they have traders now but even so what a grind! You should be able to scan in game for meter oaks you need instead of using so many outside sources
I'm not sure I understand the choice between rolling a lower grade or a higher grade, if you do too many low ones you get locked out of maxing that module, so you end up needing to buy a new one and start over?
Hmmm, not sure what you mean. You can't get locked out of maxing it out. Every roll of a given grade will get you some percentage towards completing that one and unlocking the next grade. When the next grade is unlocked, you can immediately start on that one. The first roll of that next grade will automatically complete the previous grade. Hopefully that makes sense.
Love playing this game and doing bountyhunting. Then, someone starts shooting me, I shoot back, and get a 1000 cred bounty on me for defending myself and get yeeted 150ly away from my home area. In my fighting ship. Taking a break for a while
Thargoid traumatize ne on my 10hour of gameplay, and now i want some revange, but before that i need to engineer me ship, Than there is the grind💀 I think revenge not that good anyway💀
LOL, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that! No you can't, but you can engineer high enough that a neutron boost will get you 224ly (and more)!
Everything you need to know: Engineers are another interesting mechanic that doesn't work properly. 90% of the improvements proposed by engineers are useless. The ships in the game are still not adapted for engineers. The result is an FDL with huge shields that doesn't pay for it at all, and an FDS that simply doesn't get shields and is 100% useless. As an example. 🎉
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So, as of August 2024, the random "dice roll" element has been removed (yay!). So you'll only need to spin as many times as the Grade level. I.e., one spin for Grade 1, two spins for Grade 2, and so forth. This spells out the changes: ruclips.net/video/yDD3kyBFDLI/видео.html
Happy Engineering!
I engineered my FSD and Thrusters, then quit playing after I realized what kind of grind was ahead of me. This guide though is really concise and leaves out all of the extra garbage of complaining, recommendations, tricks etc. and explains Engineering simply. That's a great thing. Now.... about that grind...
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
It gets easier to swallow when you realize that these upgrades are just a result of you playing the game, rather than the end goal itself. I think some people view having a fully engineered ship as the "end game" but in reality, they're just things that make the rest of the game a little smoother/easier. If you don't enjoy the gameplay, you aren't going to enjoy it more after upgrading as much as possible. That grinding mentality will always lead to burning out and giving it up.
I hope that makes sense. It can certainly get discouraging when you make the decision to engineer out your modules, only to realize how long it will take you to achieve that. Personally, I don't recommend newer players focusing on engineering for quite a while. After you've played for a fair bit, you'll have a feel for what play styles, ships, and builds you actually enjoy and then by the time you commit to a path, you'll likely already have the majority of the necessary materials to get the upgrades you want. Much less "work" to do it that way then to focus on optimizing your ship before you know what to do with it.
Elite Dangerous isn't a game that you win. It's a spaceship simulator. It's entirely about the journey. The only real "destination" is wherever you're currently flying towards, but you get to decide where that is and you get to set the pace. Don't rush it.
@@BigDaddyWes That's a great way of explaining it. I'm not super new. I have a few hundred hours in with some engineering. However while you can definitely play the game without grinding, you're also left out of a lot of the game, especially current events. Even after the engineering I've done with my ASP X, Krait Phantom, Cobra Mk III etc I don't even participate in any of the thargoid story or anything else going on. I won't last 20 seconds.
@@BigDaddyWesthat’s a great way of putting it!
@Recon_19D3x You can't fight the Thargoids solo, but AX weapons are available for purchase, and good A-rated ships working in a wing can hold their own.
I know there's some guides about how to attack the titans without engineering, too.
Alternatively, you can rescue people from attacked starports. You can also run supply missions to repairing starports.
Not being engineered places some restraints and creates extra challenges, but it doesn't absolutely lock you out of current events.
Such a good job on this video. Concise, thorough, no tiresome editorializing, even a chill background jam. Really refreshing work.
Thanks so much! That means a lot!
I just recently got into this game and I have to say that your guides are the most clear, concise, and least confusing out of all the ones I've watched. I've been very overwhelmed with learning everything, but your videos have been a huge part of making that not so scary! Thank you!!
That means SO much! Thank you!
I started playing befor odessy was released and stumbled around just doing things. I could not get my head around engineering. I got frustrated in Dec of last year and just stopped playing. I watched The Buur Pit video about new guides and came to see what you had to add. Well done sir! I get it. Time to get back in the cockpit, thank you!
Thanks so much! So glad you found it useful!
appreciate the time you took to make a relevant guide to this stuff man. subbed
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
ED Engineer is good, but, especially after the latest update, I'm liking the EDO:Materials Helper for engineering.
I've heard this from a few folks - I'll check it out soon! Thanks!
I've been playing ED since release in 2014 and didn't know about skipping rhe grades as soon as the next level unlocks until about a year or 2 ago. I also didn't know about the EDO:Materials Helper tool. Will definitely be using that. Thank you!
I'm dreading going back to the bubble to work on engineering, but this video has been great to take away all of the confusion. It also highlights what FDev need to get right with the future improvements. Great work!
Same - Really interested to see how (or if) things change this summer.
Clearest description of engineering I have seen. Looking forward to more videos - combat and mining would be great.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback! I have one in the queue for mining - one of my favorite parts of Elite.
I am using the ED Engineering tool but it is not giving me the right amounts- did you have this problem.@@Mile13Gaming
Thank you so much! I've been playing almost 500 hours, but aside from an FSD for my DBX, I've been avoiding the engineering grind due to its infamy, although I've been gathering materials here and there while bounty hunting.
With the latest update, I've decided to give it a go, but I was confused as to why I'd unlocked Farseer at G4 but could only upgrade my equipment to G1. Looked around in various guides, but I didn't realize you could upgrade something multiple times until I saw your video. Thanks!!
Glad you found it helpful. The recent changes to engineering are most welcome! I'll put out a video soon to cover it.
@@Mile13Gaming Great, I'll keep an eye out for it!
2k hours in and completely failed to realise the value of the ED Engineer site! Thank you for this video, you gain a sub from me! I'll add it in the playlist on my new channel too.
Thanks so much!
Great guide. Been playing for years but still learned a lot from you, thanks.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
The issue with the various way's of keeping track of what you have vs what you need, isn't updated in such away that it's totlally accurate. It take's a day or two, before the various site's I've utilize, to update my today's data, which will generally change by the time it's updated.
Hint or spoiler alert, adding the experimental immediately after doing the first of 5 upgrade's, cause you after pinning the particual modual. Never having to go back and do it later.
concise and informative. instantly became one of my favorite ED channels. subscribed :)
Thank you so much! Really glad you found it useful!
Important work, well done! Engineering is much easier and faster as many a forum dad makes you think. PSA: dont finish the grades, jump to the next one when its unlocked! Farming HGEs is by far the fastest way to gather manufactured, for raws its the limpet & flak method either at crystaline shards or brain trees. For data just scan every ship infront in supercruise or while docking at any station, it will accumilate over time, but for the first upgrades visiting Jamesons crashed Cobra and potentially relogging provides a basic stock. Cant wait to see you do some pew pews with the lads in that FDL 🙂
Yup, I made it a point to call out that you can move onto the next grade without finishing the previous one at @9:40. Saves a lot of time, materials, and frustration. :)
“Pointless grind? Yes, have some.” -ED devs
Great guide, love the engineer app. Though I now have about 5 different modules at various grades so my shopping list looks quite big and complicated compared to the one you had. Though the app is really worth using :).
I noticed this is 6 months old now, and that they were some recent changes by fdev to engineering -- other than more materials found etc, they said something about the wheel click spins are not random anymore. :)
Q: If you upgrade a part to level >0 -- e.g. Heavy Duty, lvl 5 -- can you redo the part to have a different upgrade on it? e.g. FSD for range, but then decide you want something else, not range? or do you have to buy a new FSD ?
Yeah, if you have a lot going on at once, it might be a bit much. As far as the changes go, they took out the randomness, so now it just takes as many spins as the grade level. G1 = 1 spin, G2 = 2 spins, etc. Check this out: ruclips.net/video/yDD3kyBFDLI/видео.html
@@Mile13Gaming Cool thanks for the link. :) I thought it was something like this, but doesn't it also depend on the level you have with the engineer. I just arrived at a new one, did a G1 on my sensors, but took more than one spin, I think because my engineer level was only 1 as well.
Little late for me but thx for it anyway. Did not know I could jump straight to the next grade when available. Thought the grade effects were straight additive in numbers. Oh well, at least learned something. The farming methods are still a pain in the ass and I don't see the encouragement of normal folk doing those kind of repetitive work for stupid materials. At least the material traders give some options for exchanging mats when needed.
Yup. I made a video about farming Manufactured mats at Hot Jupiter. At least that one's kind of fun in a sadistic way. :) Driving around at Dav's Hope and relogging, meh.
Mats come easily if you just do some of everything. A little mining, Pew, SRV, DavsHope, Crashed Cobra/Conda, Murdering tourists. Then hit the traders.
Casually throwing in "murdering tourists* 😂
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
@@WolfxxBite I imagine they are rich trouser-stain politicians, bankers and CEO's, who are enjoying the wealth they extort from us all our lives. Therefore, I have zero sympathy for them. 😄
At least they have traders now but even so what a grind! You should be able to scan in game for meter oaks you need instead of using so many outside sources
Frontier just made this MUCH better. Check out the latest update!
This is very well done, a must share for your noob friends...
Thanks! So glad you found it helpful!
@@Mile13Gaming Keep it up
Some missions are really great to give materials too...
I'm not sure I understand the choice between rolling a lower grade or a higher grade, if you do too many low ones you get locked out of maxing that module, so you end up needing to buy a new one and start over?
Hmmm, not sure what you mean. You can't get locked out of maxing it out. Every roll of a given grade will get you some percentage towards completing that one and unlocking the next grade. When the next grade is unlocked, you can immediately start on that one. The first roll of that next grade will automatically complete the previous grade.
Hopefully that makes sense.
@@Mile13Gaming I misunderstood then, I thought you had limited attempts to upgrade
Love playing this game and doing bountyhunting. Then, someone starts shooting me, I shoot back, and get a 1000 cred bounty on me for defending myself and get yeeted 150ly away from my home area. In my fighting ship. Taking a break for a while
Certainly not complicated, but holy crap the grind is insane XD
You must have never played a game with a real grind. This is literally nothing lmao
This guide is a big help thanks!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Does engineering some modules increase power draw?
It can. Each modification has perks and drawbacks, and some of them do result in a higher power draw. Depends on the modification.
Great vid thx
You bet!
This is an excellent video.
Thanks so much! I hope it was helpful!
thia video has a 2009 G4 tv vibe , cheers
OMG I miss G4! I'll take that as a huge compliment! 🙂
@@Mile13Gaming you aleady know! ps to bad you dont have your own morgan web lol
Thanks very helpfull.
Thanks!
Higher drop rates and fixed increases will actually bring me back lol. Who knew fdev could squeak out a win in 2024 lol?
I need to make an update to this now that it's changed. Finally!
Great Video!
Thanks so much!
This guys portraits the image that the grind is not that hard😂 for the new players, good luck with that, this is just the resume.
Nice thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Great vid!
Thanks!
Could I just buy the stuff i need that's useful to me
I will be using the cutter for trading
It's got the cargo space for it. Plus, you know, it's gorgeous.
Thargoid traumatize ne on my 10hour of gameplay, and now i want some revange, but before that i need to engineer me ship,
Than there is the grind💀
I think revenge not that good anyway💀
Yay 🎉
You don't know unless somebody tells you. And a 200LY jump? What is this how?
That was with an engineered FSD and a neutron boost. Cuts down on the time for a trip to Colonia!
I want a 224 LY FSD!!! !!! !!!
You can do with neutron boost! ruclips.net/video/KBAPzjYpHb0/видео.htmlsi=6d0XzyhdvWcY_xi5
No way can you engineer to a 224ly jump range though!
LOL, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that! No you can't, but you can engineer high enough that a neutron boost will get you 224ly (and more)!
I keep playing ignoring this system. what a joke of a grind
I have found it's not too bad if you just do the considered fastest route with each!
Everything you need to know:
Engineers are another interesting mechanic that doesn't work properly.
90% of the improvements proposed by engineers are useless.
The ships in the game are still not adapted for engineers.
The result is an FDL with huge shields that doesn't pay for it at all, and an FDS that simply doesn't get shields and is 100% useless. As an example.
🎉
The Engineering Sh!tshow...
o7
Well you're a bit late it's 2024 sir
To anybody in the comments:
Whats the biggest change you would make to this game?
Or
What did they do all wrong?
is no complicate? really ?? how about where the fuck are the materials????