Yeah, it's like he had a barely decent comment in that first half and then it just spiralled into bs in that section. That statement actually makes me more uncomfortable than a movie scene objectifying a woman.
@@professorfoxtrot uh I guess you’re aiming for some sort of one-upping that redditor then? If you’d like, I can easily put together a three judge panel to see if you’re worthy of this patronizing trophy 🏆
@@professorfoxtrot the only thing that's disgusting here is people who think they have a right to dictate what other people do or don't do with their bodies. It's none of your business, and it never will be.
Respectfully, I've seen plenty of people with their families going to metal shows that also have pits, myself included. Just recently a deathcore band came by and was an all ages show with pits being permitted. The fans are really protective of the younger audience members and I can say that from experience.
When I was in middle school I started going to a lot of concerts and more of them had pits than people tend to imagine. Once I went to a GOOD CHARLOTTE concert with a pit. And because I always wanted to be as close as possible, there were many, many times that I was very close to the pit, if not right on the edges because it actually became the easiest place for me to stand to see the band because i was much shorter than most other people there. I have been accidentally kicked and punched more times at concerts as a middle schooler than at any other stage of my life. I personally had an experience really similar to the one in the video, though it didn’t end with anyone physically fighting, but I’ve had older fans help me out of very uncomfortable, predatory situations at shows when I was very young, maybe 13-14. And many, many times I was protected from the pit because I was much smaller than almost everyone around me. I don’t necessarily think the story in the video was real or at least entirely accurate, but it was the most semi-believable situation that I saw. The vast majority of shows that I’ve been have generally had a very protective and helpful vibe towards younger and more vulnerable fans and I’ve been kept safe many times from being hurt or preyed on.
im 4’11" . 30 now but used to go to a lot of meal shows as a teen. i went hard, if i fell down multiple people would immediately help me back up. when i would get tired i would stand on the edge to guard the people not wanting to get involved in the pit. truly a community experience, it always was, to every show i went to.
19:00 to clarify a bit on this point as a teenager (luckily not 13) who regularly attends local metal shows in my city: there’s more all ages shows than you’d expect. Granted it’s still outweighed by adult only shows (i’d say about 30 percent of shows are all ages) but some of the best metal concerts i’ve gone to were at all ages shows. And yes, they do have pits. I’ve been in mosh pits way too many times for my developing brain to handle, in fact i’ve been punched in the face in a pit. all this to say that, if the story were not so dramatized, it could be plausible. something like that could happen. i’ve seen a guy get jumped at one of these concerts because he SAed a girl at the previous show. Metalheads don’t fuck around with that.
Same, I was a once a 13yr old girl at the front of the mosh pit, and have so many stories of people taking care of me to this day. But it will never feel right for them to brag about it. Even when I tell my metal head friends they just take it as something common and go “yeah that’s how that works” I know none of them would ever write a post saying how they saved a little girl by being that violent, that is not well look there either
Same I wasnt even 13 when I attended my first metal concert cause it was my dad's. I think I was like 11 at the oldest. And my little sister was like 6. Running around in circles at the front of the most pit. Everyone was super respectful. And we left around sundown so the adults got to enjoy the rowdy part of the mosh pit still with no problems at all. Like obviously korn and Rammstein aren't out here letting kids into their concerts. But lots of smaller bands are. It's not uncommon at all. When I was a teen I even once attended a metal concert specifically geared towards teens. Adults showed up. But it was marketed as a teen friendly event. More than likely exaggerated to make himself sound cooler. But anybody who hangs around the metal scene knows stuff like that is pretty common to happen. Right down to the big guy watching the pit and cutting through the crowd to come to the rescue.
Literally every metal concert I've been at had at least one pre-teen girl with her dad (and they're always rocking so hard, I love them, the kids are all right). Don't know about the pit, cause I don't really go to the pit myself mostly, but yeah, that part wasn't like "definitely didn't happen"
Yea, I was 10 when my mom took me to my first metal concert (Hammerfall + The Poodles), and we were pretty far up front. Though, I don't think they had a pit (if they did I didn't even notice it). However, my second concert, at age 12 (In Flames + Dead by April) did have pits and even one or two "Wall of Death"s (I didn't join in, but there was no security or anything to stop me if I had wanted to. Mom just asked me not to, and I trusted her since she had way more experience than I).
"Guys gals and nonbinary pals" felt weirdly emotional and validating at this random-as-f time, and I couldn't tell you why it hit me (afab nb) the way it did NOW of all times, but thank you!
As someone who goes to all ages metal and rock shows a lot that story at most could be exaggerated. I’ve seen things like that happen many many times as well as seen personally and on video from other concert goers things like that that guy said as well as the bands them selves call people out. That is how the metal and rock communities are. We take care of our own. I’ve personally been in a mosh pit with people in their early teens. It does happen.
That's a very optimistic view of a community filled with abusers & litteral schmatzis haha. Obvsly many metal fans are chill, but the community as a whole is very bad at calling out terrible behaviour (just look at Rammstein right now).
@@egos14 I think it depends on where in the metal community you look. I'm not apart of it, but I've heard some pretty good callouts and protection from leftists who are metalheads. But not sure how much of the community they make up honestly.
@@egos14 Rammstein is the type of metal that is usually listened to by people who aren’t massive metalheads themselves, similar to how most people listening to Deftones aren’t metalheads either. And even then, Rammstein is not a Nazi band, they are provocateurs and do this for cheap shock value. “Filled with abusers” Just because the music is aggressive does not make the fans abusive in any way. And if you are talking about the musical artists themselves, then that’s a gross overgeneralisation, as there’s a lot of rappers, pop stars and rock stars who have been accused of abuse and murder as well. Yet the metal fans are the ones that catch the bullets for that. And metal concerts and festivals are the only places where I’ve seen the community actively fight back against sexual harassers. The only valid point is nazism, which is a bigger issue in metal than it is in other genres, but is usually restricted to black metal only (with some outliers like Pantera). However, there has been a whole ass website compiled by Black metal fans that allows you to check whether a band you enjoy is nazi or not, so people can avoid this. “The community is very bad at calling out terrible behaviour”. That’s downright wrong. Most metal labels literally refuse to let nazi-affiliated bands to sign with them, resulting with these nazi bands having to create their own nazi labels. It is genuinely impossible to completely eradicate this scum, but I can promise you that most reputable concert or festival venues won’t allow a Nazi band on stage. And neither will the people.
@@enfieldlammergeier You make a lot of assumptions. Rammstein is a metal band, and many fans of them identify as metalheads. I never said they are right wing, because I know they arent. I also never said Metal has more abusers than any other genre, and I definitly never claimed it had anything to do with the "aggressive music". However Metal is the only genre I know besides Punk where litteral Schmazis are accepted in the crowd. And as someone who loves Punk, I hate Punk bands for this behaviour as well! I am just tired of Metal fans defending their community as "wholesome" instead of doing some actual reflection.
@@egos14 I never said Rammstein isn’t metal. It is industrial metal, however it is a metal band that is predominantly listened to by people who don’t identify as metalheads. I hail from Russia where the band is very popular and the majority who listen to it are not metalheads in the least bit. You did state that the metal community “accepts abusers and Nazis”. And while the latter is very much exclusive to metal/punk as a big problem, the former is present in all music genres. As long as you’re famous, people are going to excuse your actions and labels will sign you. Compared to some other music communities, the metal community is not that bad in terms of violence. I’ve been to like 3 rap concerts and the amount of sexual harassment and violence I’ve seen there is incomparable to the dozens of metal concerts I’ve been to. When I went to a pop/jazz music festival, I’ve been groped 4 times and 7 other people tried to sexually harass me. In comparison, I’ve only been groped once through my entire metalhead concert/festival life, and even then I’m not sure if this was an accident. This is not meant to be taken as evidence that the metal community is the most wholesome community ever but that’s my personal experience. “Instead of doing some reflection” we are not responsible for the actions of others. We cannot prevent a person from creating a nazi Black metal band and we can’t prevent these people from being signed either, especially considering there are labels in existence that are made to specifically sign Nazis. There is no reflection to be done unless you actively accept Nazis or excuse their actions. I sure as hell know I want nothing to do with these people and I’d never interact with them willingly. This is not on us, the people who enjoy music, to “kick them out”, because we can’t. We can beat the shit out of them, yell at them and tell them to fuck off, but that does not mean they’ll leave as a concept. It is up to music venues, labels and the government to restrict the flow of this music and other promotion of national socialist ideals. Some countries have laws against Nazi symbols or ideals being expressed in art, idk what’s stopping most other places from passing these regulations. Even then, nothing will stop the Nazis from making and distributing their music in their communities illegally.
I still think that "being a decent human being" deserves to be praised at least in some way, not just something like "that's what everyone should do". Because there are tons of people that wouldn't do that stuff if it wasn't praised. It's ok to wish for attention (if a person really does something good ofc). Doing good stuff is often hard exhausting (volunteers for example), especially when no one cares
I agree with that I don't get why people are like don't praise this yet are also like this doesn't happen enough I know it's common sense to help people or it should but most people just don't want to risk helping other people either out of selfishness or they just want to be left alone like most people if we want things like this to happen more we should be kind of praising it a little so people will be willing to go help other people not praising it will not make people want to help it will dissuade people from helping because they think if they help they will get fussed at Just like IF these are fake shame but on the possibility that these are real don't put down the men for doing something good just because you don't think it should be praised.
This is how I feel. A lot of women also post "I saved a woman from a creep" stories and it always gets praised, thus creating more awareness and cultivating a culture of sticking up for others. Men may be weird about it sometimes (hero complexes) but it's still worth encouraging.
I think that first guy went about it a big awkwardly but there's honestly nothing wrong with someone saying "hey, I did a good thing!" and everyone else saying "good job!" even if it's just the guy reaching out for validation. If that scenario really happened then I imagine it was pretty traumatizing for him too and his "humble bragging" might be a way of looking for emotional acknowledgement from strangers since the women is unlikely to see the post. Besides, if it encourages more people to intervene when they see a similar situation then it'll help others too.
but if its a situation where you are literally saving another human being from danger its kind of disgusting to only be doing it to brag online and get praised
“Women are not allowed in this house and they don’t want their kids in this room so I have no idea why you are asking this.” I literally got practically the same thing you did 😂
It makes me think of the people that get mad if they dont get thanked for holding a door open. You are just holding a door and if you expect a thank you then you are doing it for the wrong reason
I had a man get mad at me for not saying "thank you for shopping here" once. He said he spends a lot of money at the store, and deserves a "thank you". His total was $12. The total for the customer behind him was $500. It was the only time I ever had anyone get mad at me for saying "you're welcome." and I worked customer service for 12 years.
@@vvitch-mist20 is this in the US? I live in the UK and the social gestured in the supermarkets I go to are beyond limited because secretly British people hate eachother ;)
My dad was at a grocery store (he's black), and he walked by some white lady without saying, "Excuse me" and she slammed her cart into him. Yeah those people kinda reminded me of that😑
Thank you for calling out the people who want men to be abused. The world we should work towards is 0 abuse not a world where the abuse and oppression still exists but just shifts to different groups
In all fairness, I understand wanting to connect with someone after a traumatic event just to make sure they're okay. I think it's quite possible that the guy who made that post genuinely just hoped to get a follow-up. Yes, I know, it may have been a coy play for brownie points. (But why?) Some of us like to know when our efforts actually make a damn difference sometimes.
So, on the note of the post about the guy protecting a girl at a metal concert. There are times and concerts where there will kids at the front of the pit. When I was really little and my stepdad was first starting his band the whole first half of each of his concerts had me and my little sister running around at them. The pit didn't actually start to get crazy violent till we left. Everyone was very respectful about kids being around. We'd stay to see our dad perform a song maybe two and then go home. And we wouldn't be the only kids there. Now, no kids are gonna be allowed to big event. It's too hard to control, too unpredictable. But metal concerts are sometimes just a small thing. I think my dad's first real live performance was at the local amphitheatre in our small mountain town. Maybe like 100 people showed up at most. And a fair number of them brought their kids for the afternoon show and opening bands then sent them home when the sun started to set and the main band came out. I also attended a Christian metal concert once that was specifically geared towards teenagers. I think I was about 13 when I went. Dancing at the front of the crowd with my mom cause admission was free. The more unbelievable part is the overly detailed retelling of how the guy grabbed this attacker by the throat and tossed him to the ground. Which really would probably be pretty hard to do even for a big guy. Still not impossible though. I just figured I'd share. It's still pretty likely it's a fake story. Too many unnecessary details and the "I don't know why I'm even making this post" feel so weird. But there are lots of different kinds of metal concerts. Some really do just have kids running around for a portion of, or sometimes even the entire, show. If it is true I imagine it was a local or small time band. Not a massive korn concert or anything.
the thing that bothers me about these guys is how they have the need to share what they think. there’s nothing wrong with thinking women should have rights or anything of the sort-in fact, plenty of women agree-but these guys aren’t necessarily saying these things because they believe it. even if they do, nobody is making them share it on the internet. they’re looking for attention from women.
I think a possible problem these guys face is they don’t really have the sort of friendships with women where they can share those thoughts and inevitably learn women’s input on how those thoughts come off. They’re insulated from healthy criticism and so they seek out more unhealthy input from internet strangers instead.
@overlordfemto7523 Exactly. For decades feminists have tried to purge masculinity, which they've referred to as "toxic," leaving only the simps and white knights. Meanwhile, real men have flocked to foreign girls who shave their armpits and treat men with respect. Now the feminists are wondering where the real men are. 🤣
It’s the unprompted sharing that makes it weird, much like any similar “oh, about this time that I was awesome!” scenario. Whether you’re protecting the downtrodden or stomping them down, bringing it up out of nowhere about how cool you were reeks of a lack of self confidence or seeking validation and accolades.
@overlordfemto7523 i don't think *all* male feminists are weasels. there are plenty that make good points for the sake of making good points. but there are many men (like those featured in this video) that are only performative feminists.
I would agree with replies that men don’t get enough good socializing with women. Additionally I’d point out that if they’ve been spending most of their lives being shit men and are trying to turn a new leaf (this is not the common trend, but the exception) then i can see how doing what is essentially the opposite of what they understand as « correct » would make them seek some form of validation that what they did was, in fact, the right thing to do. Obviously layers upon layers of nuance and context to every specific situation, but still.
Oh my god I literally got “women are not allowed in this house” too?!?! What?!!! I had just gone to my texting app to try it out and thought “lol women are not allowed in this house that’s so random” then I did a double take when the RUclips video I was listening to read exactly what was on my screen 👻
interesting… i didn’t know that was what friendzoning was i had always thought friendzoning was when one person confesses feelings and the other person says stuff like “ive always seen you as a friend”
To be fair, I think 8:35 is actually genuine. I tried it out, if you spam the left button you get something like that, centre button gives you something along the lines of “women are not allowed in this house”, and right button gives you a garbled essay on how women are becoming more equal in the workforce.
Let me try (rigth suggestion) Women are now a good man 👨 a lot to the other people in their life who cares for their life but their parents and family 👪 their own family 👪
@@FoxGameCZ I’ll do it too Left: Women are the best in the world and they are so cute and they are all the good ones and the ones that are in the west are the green ones and the green ones are the green ones and hhh it got derailed a bit Centre: Women are not allowed in this area codes or any notification of the other one day or two months after you have to start your social media apps for the first people in your life you are Right: Women are in the same class as you have any time 🕰️ or smth smth or even in a certain manner and I can think 💭 and they can choose between them as they do it for the rest of my days at work instead or not at the school 🏫 and then they’ll go out and get a new job or whatever I can feel free from doing the same class that would I mean 😪
here's mine left: women are the most important thing to do in the world center: women are you and I am emailing to ask for a bit of a good boy right: women are not allowed 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫
@@professorfoxtrotGod made both men and women with body hair Shaving is a very personal choice it's gross for you to comment on it I can't imagine the pit of misery and boredom you in to have nothing better to do with life than troll and shit on people you don't know Seriously go drink some water or read a book you could literally do anything else and it would be more productive than this I don't even wish you any ill will cus I don't know you
On the "I don't understand why people my age find young girls sexy", yes, it creepily phrased, but like, there's plenty of reason to actually talk about it and ask that, because there are SO MANY OLD DUDES around trying to date girls young enough to be their daughters. Celebrities, movies, colleagues, politicians. Getting how fucked up that is, and attempting to gain a greater understanding of it is commendable.
I grew up male. Being physically abused WAS normal until after I came out and people listened to the very same retellings of what boys did to me and when they started saying they couldn't believe how these boys could have been so cruel, so I explained that to them I was a boy and either people then suddenly treated that like an unfortunate misunderstanding or even acted like i had lied about any details to make the abuse sound worse - but in reality, all that stands between child abuse being terribly wrong and inherently just is whether it's a boy who is meant to be tortured into submission or a girl that meant to be kept as vulnerable as possible for her future husband to be able to shape her. I'm not thinking that men ultimately are on the worse side of this, actually quite the contrary based on my experiences being treated as a boy to man and my experiences being treated as a woman/girl. Though frankly, my perspective may be flawed because the abuse I know feels safer than the abuse I haven't yet experienced. That's human nature I think. Still: Growing up as a boy wasn't shitty exclusively because I wanted to be a girl. Just had I been a normal boy (my choice of words referring to myself - don't you dare trying to "correct me"!), i possibly might somehow have drawn from the trauma instead of it breaking me? I can't really imagine. And again: From my perspective, I wouldn't say for sure that not everything I hated about being male is terrible for most men... I'm assuming it isn't but they could just as well all be brainwashed considering the amount of violence and brainwashing we grew up with... Like, you can't imagine what it feels to be sexually violated until it happens to you. Of course, that's something one can only really know in retrospect. The same way, being thrown into a garbage container by other kids who scream and laugh at you, saying you're trash and belong in there - you can guess by looking at it, that it's an unpleasant experience but you have no idea until it actually happened to you. You don't let it show but it sticks with you. And if you experienced this with girls standing around laughing too (which I gladly didn't), then chances are that in your later life, you will pass on the experience of being dehumanized and told to be trash to whichever woman ends up in a situation she can't escape with you. (that also didn't happen to me but the girls at my schools also collectively looked down on physical violence, so the boys only did it when no girls were watching and i never had the necessary trauma aspect to want to turn the abuse men did to me against women who didn't even try to help - because the girls i knew did try to help and had my father not indoctrinated me with all sort of sexist bullshit, I could have just taken that help and have spend my time as practically one of the girls as I secretly desired anyways. So, i hate my father and a specific type of men instead of women in general) Anyways, my point is that we need to stop violence against children of ALL genders, also violence between the children. This obviously doesn't include sports but outside of that, if we look away while a kid is beaten and put in a trashcan, that kid will grow into an adult who has been taught early that to other people he isn't even human and so he acts accordingly. I would assume that with girls it's not that different but the situation is very different and i never grew up as a female child, so how would I know for sure. But from what I've heard, I can't choose which is more hellish...
I feel that if you are AMAB there's a fine line between emasculating pity and disgust that you "could have let such happen". It is horrible. I'm sorry.
Yeah I'm a cis dude and my mom beat me all the time. So much so that I just assumed it was normal. Told my entire class (including the teacher) that it is once. Did anything happen? Nope. Just stunned silence. Didn't even get called to the office about it. Personally I think it was just sexism ingrained so hard that nobody even knew what to do with the roles being reversed. Also that was 20 years ago.
As a AFAB person (not trans exactly, but NB which is under that umbrella) I can honestly say ya it is different. It also depends on how others treat you based on your race, neurotype, disability or able-bodied appearance, etc. But yeah, overall kids should not be abused EVER, and normalizing it happening to any CHILD is horrific. I personally never understood the whole "boys be tough" "girls are dainty angels" thing since I grew up with male siblings, and was often treated like a boy due to my violent streak. So I got a weird mix of both just because of that and it didn't feel quite as gendered. But I'd say there is a definite difference in the reasons people disbelieve children. For boys I'd say it's a sort of "boys will be boys they are violent" thing, where the violence towards them and boys on other boys is normalized for toxic masculine standards. The idea that they are growing into men. For girls it's more of a "they are so innocent, they can't do anything wrong or unladylike (including violence)" so anything deviating from that is seen as abnormal for a girl and more likely to be looked into as to why they are violent--such as an abusive parent. But at the same time is more likely to be punished verbally or emotionally rather than physically because of the "you can't hit a girl" thing. (Which always drove me crazy as an AFAB kid who wanted to wrestle for fun on the playground, lol.) But even then, I'd still say there is a huge societal issue with not listening to children in general, so children fighting other children is often ignored, and adults hurting children is ignored unless proven due to the power dynamic where children are assumed to be liars or wrong because of their age. (Since kids are basically treated as property) Overall, I'd say yes it is different, the punishments are different, but the message that you will not be believed is the same. Just gives different reasons as to why and thus forces the gender rolls of "be docile" for girls and "be aggressive" for boys. It's so dumb...
@@shannond1511 oops … Here’s what it should’ve been: “Women are …” _not allowed in this house and they don’t want their kids in this room so I have no idea why you are not going out of town for the next couple days_
"Women are in need to necessarily be the victim to their own sponsorships of their troops near the police station." A completely coherent message that I absolutely stand by.
The gas station story is too real. I've had some tough interactions with women not taking no for an answer, or even straight up drunkenly mistaking me for some other guy and getting loud/aggressive in public and the LAST thing I would want is another stranger, regardless of gender, to walk over and expect me to just fall in step with some lie they made up on the spot to "save me". Yikes.
i do have some compassion for the metal show guy. ive been to metal concerts where there's all ages, AND a mosh pit. ive gone to metal concerts with chaperones who moshed too. i wonder if for a lot of the men who intervene in situations, they're finally realizing how traumatizing it is, and don't know how to reckon with it. ive intervened instances before (granted, im nonbinary, raised being told im a girl) and like. it really is mortifying. there's the need to tell *someone* about it. undeniably there's also a factor of men wanting recognition for "peforming manly duties", it does come across as a humble brag, i think ultimately... if this story was true. it does sound like the man telling the story did what he thinks he should be doing, but the fact it was even necessary was probably shaking him up. witnessing that shit in real time does mess with you
Can I just ask why the man in that hypothetical story saw a woman get harassed and his mind went straight to “oh, what she needs is someone pretending to be her boyfriend so she can be left alone”? Isn’t that kinda telling on himself that he thinks a man’s sense of infringed “right” is more valuable than the will to survive of a woman who is literally being the one that’s harassed? Like she’s the boyfriend’s property and really he is the victim of what’s happening? A woman’s defense against being harassed is only having a boyfriend and otherwise she’s screwed? That pissed me off so much.
The boyfriend lie is actually sort of reasonable, here: it gives the perpetrators an easy way out, allowing them to back down without having their egos hurt and so the situation is less likely to escalate. Of course these idiots should also just leave quietly when told 'no', but that seems to be beyond their comprehension.
Well, what should he have done? Start insulting the perpetrators, making them vengeful, waiting for the woman in a dark alley with a knife? Maybe fight them? But yes, in this case there would be no sexism. Even though it was not sexism - but a pretense of sexism, in order to fight off the attackers
hi!! i love your hair cut! if you can, can you maybe do a collab with film cooper? he doesn’t exactly cover the same things you do often but you both are very funny and i think it’d be awesome to see you two together!
Women are in a unique mood to get a good one thing for a long day and then I will be in the park and I will cry again if you don’t need to do them all in my room lol What-
It's so annoying how guys get butt-fucking-hurt over being ,,friendzoned" like bro you're not my type, you might be a cool guy but you're just not my type, ACCEPT REJECTION
8:21 My woman auto fill lol. Women are so cute I just don’t want them in my face so much and I’m so much better with that I don’t want them in my life.
Some of these stories are probably true. Mosh pit incident something like that happened to someone ik. And pretending to be their friend or boyfriend if they see a woman being harassed that has occurred as well. In a world where doing nothing is the default just encouraging this behavior can do a lot. Positive reinforcement is important here.
Also, I’ve seen 13 year olds at all ages shows with mosh pits. It’s usually young local bands. The venues would normally be 18 or 21 and up but they would get permits for these shows. Lots of adults are still into metal so they would be willing to go with their kid, especially if it’s their kid’s first show. I’ve seen things like this happen at shows. No all ages show but at venues… usually at big concerts. I’ve been the girl that someone had to get out of a bad situation, too. However, usually when people post about this it’s more an encouragement on how others can help, like ‘never be afraid to get involved. I saw something really sketchy tonight and I’m glad that I did something, because sometimes people are afraid to get involved, and we should all try to do better’ or something.
at the metal concert one i’m not sure how likely that is, like i’ve been to many metal concerts and the thing is that not only one guy will be protecting women, there’s multiple especially if the woman is young
“Women are in their own skin with the same age as the women in their lives are you in the same way you know what you are and what you mean like you and me and I know how to tell him I don’t want you in my arms” Tbh- I thought it was going to say “woman are hot-“
My phone’s autocomplete to the prompt: “Women are more important in society today because men and girls 👧 can become equal 🟰 and more likely in their careers and in life because men have a better understanding about how their body is being made of water.”
"Women are you and your family and I love you so much and I love you so much and I love you so much for your assistance and I love you so much for your assistance and I love you and I love you too my love you are amazing and I love you and I love you too my love you can be blessed to be a woman and I love you too 3 thanks for your time to be blessed to be a woman and I love you too" - my keyboard
As a non binary person who has forgot fo make this clear to the stylist, I’ve ended up with the bob too many times because the hair dresser always thinks they’re being helpful by “feminizing” the hair cut and framing my face…
This always freaks me out. It gives the vibes of someone who would save you from an abuser so that they could be your abuser. It feels icky. Not every single one of them, but that vibe of "I should be thanked". And while I can see wanting positive reinforcement for doing something helpful, as someone with ADHD who loves dopamine, if you do it for the reward you are doing it for the wrong reason. A thank you or a praise is a nice cherry on top, but you do it because it's the right thing to do and you want to live in a world where people help each other like this.
My phone completed it like that: "Women are in love with me but they don't want me anymore to be honest with them and I'm afraid that they will never going back"
I tried the phone thing. I think I've been talking about headaches and D&D. Don't know where taboo came from though. Women are not taboo in their own way and the way to go is a good day for me and my head to work off the top to get my hands tied up with the party for a long session with a raging and the other two people who are in the center cauldron is the most common
This is such funny segment. Your rebuttal are funny and wise. Insightful. You look super cute. Do you shop on modcloth. Your style reflects your personality 😊
I didn’t know about this Reddit thread. It’s giving that they like to look like the hero and care more about that than actually dismantling the patriarchy. Like, I feel they’d be a bit down if the patriarchy ended and they couldn’t “show off” how kind/tough/caring they are … but those traits are performative if they are showing them off on Reddit at all. It’s so weird.
These stories of these men that are so proud of themselves are just reminding me of this fundie snark comment someone made in a video when a fundie was doing the bare minimum. "do you want a cookie?? People should just be doing decent stuff because they can."
If a man is coming to the defense of a woman especially being harassed yes act like your family or their partner it creates less possibility for conflict if you just say “leave that woman alone” you’ve made two targets and one of them is likley going to get the shit kicked out of them pretending to be a husband or brother is more than likley going to chase away the people harassing the woman than a complete stranger in order to have protection the protector needs to protect themselves as a person who’s been a victim of bullying telling someone not to mess with someone as a stranger never ends well
white knight and being called a simp are usually used for the same reason. Basically to shut down criticism. "oh you are just white knight for her" "you are such a simp". etc. A lot of these example seem very fake "nice guy".
That Clara Bow Bob, the brilliant outfit and the absolute sarcasm throughout the video …. What a perfect combination Kiwi, Just bloody loved it Savannah x
Your hair is so cute. Ooh and my auto complete said this: Women are just a little bit of a lot of people like that and the new order is so much better than the other one for the best of the world to be doing it. 🙃🤷🏽♀️
The one from 9:58 reminded me of that guy I saw in a birthday party years ago: me and a couple of guys were just talking about some random video game we like, then out of nowhere one guy just screamed from the other table "SO GOOD TO SEE LITTLE GIRLS WITH THEIR INNOCENCE PRESERVED, RIGHT?!! LOOK AT THAT ONE, WEARING A SHORT UNDER HER SKIRT!!! GOOD FOR HER!!!" ...the girl he was pointing to, talking to his brother (?) wasn't more than ten years old. We all looked at him, then to the girl he was pointing to... Like, the fact that he looked for long enough to notice a short under the skirt and thought that literally scream about it was gonna make him sound noble, or whatever 😳... Ooh, and he's not the only one. My country has this increase of people exactly like him, "prude-watchers"; so creepy 😖.
@ 4:30 ish when I was still struggling to present masc, and my X was emotionally and physically abusive. I am much happier NOW, 2.4 years after an 11 year relationship... All i can say is hindsight is definitely 20/20
the metal concert thing about the groping thing, while i don’t believe that this happened, i went to a metal show last night and i am 16 i was with my dad and there was a mosh pit, it was an all ages show
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“I look forward to protecting you” is such a trashy way to presume a paternal role over complete strangers. Holy crap
Yeah, it's like he had a barely decent comment in that first half and then it just spiralled into bs in that section. That statement actually makes me more uncomfortable than a movie scene objectifying a woman.
I will protect kiwi by offering her a 🪒 to get rid of that disgusting pit hair
@@professorfoxtrot uh I guess you’re aiming for some sort of one-upping that redditor then?
If you’d like, I can easily put together a three judge panel to see if you’re worthy of this patronizing trophy 🏆
@@professorfoxtrot the only thing that's disgusting here is people who think they have a right to dictate what other people do or don't do with their bodies. It's none of your business, and it never will be.
@@crazcatladeestudios9956 It's now my business because I have to look at it. It's quite disgusting
i tried the “women are…” thing and my phone immediately went “women are lesbians” and. i mean it’s not wrong
"Women are the best way to get a gf"
Well... Yeah that's how it tends to work...
He/him lesbians: >:(
I'm screaming I just saw this comment and did it and mine said "women are not a lesbian"
@@elena_eleen I got Women are my favorite guy, Im so proud of the algorithm
Women are more likely that he could not digest
...okay then
I mean, the Clara Bow Bob and the outfit today are absolutely fabulous and yes, shorter cuts are not synonymous with a Bob.
I was gonna say, they look amazing. Their hair color and cut are * chef’s kiss *
I MAKE WAY BETTER CONTENT THAN KIWI!😂t
@@OfficerZlock you dont even make content
REAL!!
@@OfficerZlockwhat content?
"Women are you okay okay lol i love you" - lmfoa my phone is a drunk girl in the bar bathroom
Respectfully, I've seen plenty of people with their families going to metal shows that also have pits, myself included. Just recently a deathcore band came by and was an all ages show with pits being permitted. The fans are really protective of the younger audience members and I can say that from experience.
Boosting because this was the only one where I disagreed with the take on
When I was in middle school I started going to a lot of concerts and more of them had pits than people tend to imagine. Once I went to a GOOD CHARLOTTE concert with a pit. And because I always wanted to be as close as possible, there were many, many times that I was very close to the pit, if not right on the edges because it actually became the easiest place for me to stand to see the band because i was much shorter than most other people there. I have been accidentally kicked and punched more times at concerts as a middle schooler than at any other stage of my life.
I personally had an experience really similar to the one in the video, though it didn’t end with anyone physically fighting, but I’ve had older fans help me out of very uncomfortable, predatory situations at shows when I was very young, maybe 13-14. And many, many times I was protected from the pit because I was much smaller than almost everyone around me. I don’t necessarily think the story in the video was real or at least entirely accurate, but it was the most semi-believable situation that I saw. The vast majority of shows that I’ve been have generally had a very protective and helpful vibe towards younger and more vulnerable fans and I’ve been kept safe many times from being hurt or preyed on.
im 4’11" . 30 now but used to go to a lot of meal shows as a teen. i went hard, if i fell down multiple people would immediately help me back up. when i would get tired i would stand on the edge to guard the people not wanting to get involved in the pit. truly a community experience, it always was, to every show i went to.
Wut?
Yeah fr there are children at metal shows and near the front all the time
19:00
to clarify a bit on this point as a teenager (luckily not 13) who regularly attends local metal shows in my city: there’s more all ages shows than you’d expect. Granted it’s still outweighed by adult only shows (i’d say about 30 percent of shows are all ages) but some of the best metal concerts i’ve gone to were at all ages shows. And yes, they do have pits. I’ve been in mosh pits way too many times for my developing brain to handle, in fact i’ve been punched in the face in a pit.
all this to say that, if the story were not so dramatized, it could be plausible. something like that could happen. i’ve seen a guy get jumped at one of these concerts because he SAed a girl at the previous show. Metalheads don’t fuck around with that.
i've seen metal crowds be pretty diverse, that part of the story didn't necessarily strike me as odd.
Same, I was a once a 13yr old girl at the front of the mosh pit, and have so many stories of people taking care of me to this day. But it will never feel right for them to brag about it. Even when I tell my metal head friends they just take it as something common and go “yeah that’s how that works” I know none of them would ever write a post saying how they saved a little girl by being that violent, that is not well look there either
At most I could see some exaggeration to the story like with being offered money.
Same
I wasnt even 13 when I attended my first metal concert cause it was my dad's. I think I was like 11 at the oldest. And my little sister was like 6. Running around in circles at the front of the most pit. Everyone was super respectful. And we left around sundown so the adults got to enjoy the rowdy part of the mosh pit still with no problems at all.
Like obviously korn and Rammstein aren't out here letting kids into their concerts. But lots of smaller bands are. It's not uncommon at all.
When I was a teen I even once attended a metal concert specifically geared towards teens. Adults showed up. But it was marketed as a teen friendly event.
More than likely exaggerated to make himself sound cooler. But anybody who hangs around the metal scene knows stuff like that is pretty common to happen. Right down to the big guy watching the pit and cutting through the crowd to come to the rescue.
Literally every metal concert I've been at had at least one pre-teen girl with her dad (and they're always rocking so hard, I love them, the kids are all right). Don't know about the pit, cause I don't really go to the pit myself mostly, but yeah, that part wasn't like "definitely didn't happen"
Yea, I was 10 when my mom took me to my first metal concert (Hammerfall + The Poodles), and we were pretty far up front. Though, I don't think they had a pit (if they did I didn't even notice it).
However, my second concert, at age 12 (In Flames + Dead by April) did have pits and even one or two "Wall of Death"s (I didn't join in, but there was no security or anything to stop me if I had wanted to. Mom just asked me not to, and I trusted her since she had way more experience than I).
"Guys gals and nonbinary pals" felt weirdly emotional and validating at this random-as-f time, and I couldn't tell you why it hit me (afab nb) the way it did NOW of all times, but thank you!
Same! It hit a little different for me after I came out. Also an AFAB NB.
Guys gals and counterfeit gals.
As someone who goes to all ages metal and rock shows a lot that story at most could be exaggerated. I’ve seen things like that happen many many times as well as seen personally and on video from other concert goers things like that that guy said as well as the bands them selves call people out. That is how the metal and rock communities are. We take care of our own. I’ve personally been in a mosh pit with people in their early teens. It does happen.
That's a very optimistic view of a community filled with abusers & litteral schmatzis haha. Obvsly many metal fans are chill, but the community as a whole is very bad at calling out terrible behaviour (just look at Rammstein right now).
@@egos14 I think it depends on where in the metal community you look. I'm not apart of it, but I've heard some pretty good callouts and protection from leftists who are metalheads. But not sure how much of the community they make up honestly.
@@egos14
Rammstein is the type of metal that is usually listened to by people who aren’t massive metalheads themselves, similar to how most people listening to Deftones aren’t metalheads either. And even then, Rammstein is not a Nazi band, they are provocateurs and do this for cheap shock value.
“Filled with abusers”
Just because the music is aggressive does not make the fans abusive in any way. And if you are talking about the musical artists themselves, then that’s a gross overgeneralisation, as there’s a lot of rappers, pop stars and rock stars who have been accused of abuse and murder as well. Yet the metal fans are the ones that catch the bullets for that.
And metal concerts and festivals are the only places where I’ve seen the community actively fight back against sexual harassers.
The only valid point is nazism, which is a bigger issue in metal than it is in other genres, but is usually restricted to black metal only (with some outliers like Pantera). However, there has been a whole ass website compiled by Black metal fans that allows you to check whether a band you enjoy is nazi or not, so people can avoid this.
“The community is very bad at calling out terrible behaviour”. That’s downright wrong. Most metal labels literally refuse to let nazi-affiliated bands to sign with them, resulting with these nazi bands having to create their own nazi labels. It is genuinely impossible to completely eradicate this scum, but I can promise you that most reputable concert or festival venues won’t allow a Nazi band on stage. And neither will the people.
@@enfieldlammergeier You make a lot of assumptions. Rammstein is a metal band, and many fans of them identify as metalheads. I never said they are right wing, because I know they arent. I also never said Metal has more abusers than any other genre, and I definitly never claimed it had anything to do with the "aggressive music". However Metal is the only genre I know besides Punk where litteral Schmazis are accepted in the crowd. And as someone who loves Punk, I hate Punk bands for this behaviour as well!
I am just tired of Metal fans defending their community as "wholesome" instead of doing some actual reflection.
@@egos14
I never said Rammstein isn’t metal. It is industrial metal, however it is a metal band that is predominantly listened to by people who don’t identify as metalheads. I hail from Russia where the band is very popular and the majority who listen to it are not metalheads in the least bit.
You did state that the metal community “accepts abusers and Nazis”. And while the latter is very much exclusive to metal/punk as a big problem, the former is present in all music genres. As long as you’re famous, people are going to excuse your actions and labels will sign you.
Compared to some other music communities, the metal community is not that bad in terms of violence. I’ve been to like 3 rap concerts and the amount of sexual harassment and violence I’ve seen there is incomparable to the dozens of metal concerts I’ve been to. When I went to a pop/jazz music festival, I’ve been groped 4 times and 7 other people tried to sexually harass me. In comparison, I’ve only been groped once through my entire metalhead concert/festival life, and even then I’m not sure if this was an accident. This is not meant to be taken as evidence that the metal community is the most wholesome community ever but that’s my personal experience.
“Instead of doing some reflection” we are not responsible for the actions of others. We cannot prevent a person from creating a nazi Black metal band and we can’t prevent these people from being signed either, especially considering there are labels in existence that are made to specifically sign Nazis. There is no reflection to be done unless you actively accept Nazis or excuse their actions. I sure as hell know I want nothing to do with these people and I’d never interact with them willingly.
This is not on us, the people who enjoy music, to “kick them out”, because we can’t. We can beat the shit out of them, yell at them and tell them to fuck off, but that does not mean they’ll leave as a concept. It is up to music venues, labels and the government to restrict the flow of this music and other promotion of national socialist ideals. Some countries have laws against Nazi symbols or ideals being expressed in art, idk what’s stopping most other places from passing these regulations.
Even then, nothing will stop the Nazis from making and distributing their music in their communities illegally.
I still think that "being a decent human being" deserves to be praised at least in some way, not just something like "that's what everyone should do". Because there are tons of people that wouldn't do that stuff if it wasn't praised. It's ok to wish for attention (if a person really does something good ofc). Doing good stuff is often hard exhausting (volunteers for example), especially when no one cares
I agree with that I don't get why people are like don't praise this yet are also like this doesn't happen enough I know it's common sense to help people or it should but most people just don't want to risk helping other people either out of selfishness or they just want to be left alone like most people if we want things like this to happen more we should be kind of praising it a little so people will be willing to go help other people not praising it will not make people want to help it will dissuade people from helping because they think if they help they will get fussed at Just like IF these are fake shame but on the possibility that these are real don't put down the men for doing something good just because you don't think it should be praised.
This is how I feel. A lot of women also post "I saved a woman from a creep" stories and it always gets praised, thus creating more awareness and cultivating a culture of sticking up for others. Men may be weird about it sometimes (hero complexes) but it's still worth encouraging.
I think that first guy went about it a big awkwardly but there's honestly nothing wrong with someone saying "hey, I did a good thing!" and everyone else saying "good job!" even if it's just the guy reaching out for validation. If that scenario really happened then I imagine it was pretty traumatizing for him too and his "humble bragging" might be a way of looking for emotional acknowledgement from strangers since the women is unlikely to see the post. Besides, if it encourages more people to intervene when they see a similar situation then it'll help others too.
but if its a situation where you are literally saving another human being from danger its kind of disgusting to only be doing it to brag online and get praised
@@eyeseyeseyeseyeseyes maybe, but if it will make someone save somebody, why the hell not
Bro just by the title I can tell this is gonna be good and I love ur hair either way
The rainbow bob is surprisingly such a cute look on you!
4:28 Jokes about spouses beating each other should be retired. Either it’s that or some reference to husband having to be ‘silent’ in a marriage.
Agreed, this kind of humor is disordered.
“Women are not allowed in this house and they don’t want their kids in this room so I have no idea why you are asking this.” I literally got practically the same thing you did 😂
It makes me think of the people that get mad if they dont get thanked for holding a door open. You are just holding a door and if you expect a thank you then you are doing it for the wrong reason
I had a man get mad at me for not saying "thank you for shopping here" once. He said he spends a lot of money at the store, and deserves a "thank you". His total was $12. The total for the customer behind him was $500. It was the only time I ever had anyone get mad at me for saying "you're welcome." and I worked customer service for 12 years.
@@vvitch-mist20 is this in the US? I live in the UK and the social gestured in the supermarkets I go to are beyond limited because secretly British people hate eachother ;)
@@20dabarr58 Yeah unfortunately.
How about you just don't be a dick and say thanks, ffs? Be happy they didn't slam the door in your face like the majority of assholes nowadays.
My dad was at a grocery store (he's black), and he walked by some white lady without saying, "Excuse me" and she slammed her cart into him. Yeah those people kinda reminded me of that😑
Thank you for calling out the people who want men to be abused. The world we should work towards is 0 abuse not a world where the abuse and oppression still exists but just shifts to different groups
The day men are oppressed is the day i sprout wings from my head.
the first one just sounds like the guy wants to reach out to the girl and make sure she's okay but didn't know how
14:22
I’ve heard stories about other women pretending strangers were their boyfriend in order to get other guys to stop harassing her
In all fairness, I understand wanting to connect with someone after a traumatic event just to make sure they're okay. I think it's quite possible that the guy who made that post genuinely just hoped to get a follow-up. Yes, I know, it may have been a coy play for brownie points. (But why?) Some of us like to know when our efforts actually make a damn difference sometimes.
The only half intelligent comment here.
So, on the note of the post about the guy protecting a girl at a metal concert. There are times and concerts where there will kids at the front of the pit.
When I was really little and my stepdad was first starting his band the whole first half of each of his concerts had me and my little sister running around at them.
The pit didn't actually start to get crazy violent till we left. Everyone was very respectful about kids being around. We'd stay to see our dad perform a song maybe two and then go home. And we wouldn't be the only kids there.
Now, no kids are gonna be allowed to big event. It's too hard to control, too unpredictable.
But metal concerts are sometimes just a small thing. I think my dad's first real live performance was at the local amphitheatre in our small mountain town. Maybe like 100 people showed up at most. And a fair number of them brought their kids for the afternoon show and opening bands then sent them home when the sun started to set and the main band came out.
I also attended a Christian metal concert once that was specifically geared towards teenagers. I think I was about 13 when I went. Dancing at the front of the crowd with my mom cause admission was free.
The more unbelievable part is the overly detailed retelling of how the guy grabbed this attacker by the throat and tossed him to the ground. Which really would probably be pretty hard to do even for a big guy. Still not impossible though.
I just figured I'd share. It's still pretty likely it's a fake story. Too many unnecessary details and the "I don't know why I'm even making this post" feel so weird.
But there are lots of different kinds of metal concerts. Some really do just have kids running around for a portion of, or sometimes even the entire, show.
If it is true I imagine it was a local or small time band. Not a massive korn concert or anything.
the thing that bothers me about these guys is how they have the need to share what they think. there’s nothing wrong with thinking women should have rights or anything of the sort-in fact, plenty of women agree-but these guys aren’t necessarily saying these things because they believe it. even if they do, nobody is making them share it on the internet. they’re looking for attention from women.
I think a possible problem these guys face is they don’t really have the sort of friendships with women where they can share those thoughts and inevitably learn women’s input on how those thoughts come off.
They’re insulated from healthy criticism and so they seek out more unhealthy input from internet strangers instead.
@overlordfemto7523 Exactly. For decades feminists have tried to purge masculinity, which they've referred to as "toxic," leaving only the simps and white knights. Meanwhile, real men have flocked to foreign girls who shave their armpits and treat men with respect. Now the feminists are wondering where the real men are. 🤣
It’s the unprompted sharing that makes it weird, much like any similar “oh, about this time that I was awesome!” scenario.
Whether you’re protecting the downtrodden or stomping them down, bringing it up out of nowhere about how cool you were reeks of a lack of self confidence or seeking validation and accolades.
@overlordfemto7523 i don't think *all* male feminists are weasels. there are plenty that make good points for the sake of making good points. but there are many men (like those featured in this video) that are only performative feminists.
I would agree with replies that men don’t get enough good socializing with women.
Additionally I’d point out that if they’ve been spending most of their lives being shit men and are trying to turn a new leaf (this is not the common trend, but the exception) then i can see how doing what is essentially the opposite of what they understand as « correct » would make them seek some form of validation that what they did was, in fact, the right thing to do.
Obviously layers upon layers of nuance and context to every specific situation, but still.
Oh my god I literally got “women are not allowed in this house” too?!?! What?!!! I had just gone to my texting app to try it out and thought “lol women are not allowed in this house that’s so random” then I did a double take when the RUclips video I was listening to read exactly what was on my screen 👻
interesting… i didn’t know that was what friendzoning was i had always thought friendzoning was when one person confesses feelings and the other person says stuff like “ive always seen you as a friend”
Sometimes confessions lead to relationships sometimes they don’t it depends
To be fair, I think 8:35 is actually genuine. I tried it out, if you spam the left button you get something like that, centre button gives you something along the lines of “women are not allowed in this house”, and right button gives you a garbled essay on how women are becoming more equal in the workforce.
Let me try (rigth suggestion)
Women are now a good man 👨 a lot to the other people in their life who cares for their life but their parents and family 👪 their own family 👪
@@FoxGameCZ I’ll do it too
Left: Women are the best in the world and they are so cute and they are all the good ones and the ones that are in the west are the green ones and the green ones are the green ones and
hhh it got derailed a bit
Centre: Women are not allowed in this area codes or any notification of the other one day or two months after you have to start your social media apps for the first people in your life you are
Right: Women are in the same class as you have any time 🕰️ or smth smth or even in a certain manner and I can think 💭 and they can choose between them as they do it for the rest of my days at work instead or not at the school 🏫 and then they’ll go out and get a new job or whatever I can feel free from doing the same class that would I mean 😪
here's mine
left:
women are the most important thing to do in the world
center:
women are you and I am emailing to ask for a bit of a good boy
right:
women are not allowed 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫 😒 😤 🙄 😑 😐 🚫
8:21 my phone: "Women are you brave enough in the dark cloak to get a good idea on what is going to be an exciting opportunity"
Not the first dude basically bragging and looking for her to fall in his lap and shower him in thanks and gifts 🥰
I will accept this from a woman, but she has to shave her armpits first though.
@@professorfoxtrotno thanks
@@PenneyLan 🪒
@@professorfoxtrot I politely decline
@@professorfoxtrotGod made both men and women with body hair
Shaving is a very personal choice it's gross for you to comment on it
I can't imagine the pit of misery and boredom you in to have nothing better to do with life than troll and shit on people you don't know
Seriously go drink some water or read a book you could literally do anything else and it would be more productive than this
I don't even wish you any ill will cus I don't know you
On the "I don't understand why people my age find young girls sexy", yes, it creepily phrased, but like, there's plenty of reason to actually talk about it and ask that, because there are SO MANY OLD DUDES around trying to date girls young enough to be their daughters. Celebrities, movies, colleagues, politicians. Getting how fucked up that is, and attempting to gain a greater understanding of it is commendable.
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I grew up male. Being physically abused WAS normal until after I came out and people listened to the very same retellings of what boys did to me and when they started saying they couldn't believe how these boys could have been so cruel, so I explained that to them I was a boy and either people then suddenly treated that like an unfortunate misunderstanding or even acted like i had lied about any details to make the abuse sound worse - but in reality, all that stands between child abuse being terribly wrong and inherently just is whether it's a boy who is meant to be tortured into submission or a girl that meant to be kept as vulnerable as possible for her future husband to be able to shape her. I'm not thinking that men ultimately are on the worse side of this, actually quite the contrary based on my experiences being treated as a boy to man and my experiences being treated as a woman/girl. Though frankly, my perspective may be flawed because the abuse I know feels safer than the abuse I haven't yet experienced. That's human nature I think. Still: Growing up as a boy wasn't shitty exclusively because I wanted to be a girl. Just had I been a normal boy (my choice of words referring to myself - don't you dare trying to "correct me"!), i possibly might somehow have drawn from the trauma instead of it breaking me? I can't really imagine. And again: From my perspective, I wouldn't say for sure that not everything I hated about being male is terrible for most men... I'm assuming it isn't but they could just as well all be brainwashed considering the amount of violence and brainwashing we grew up with... Like, you can't imagine what it feels to be sexually violated until it happens to you. Of course, that's something one can only really know in retrospect. The same way, being thrown into a garbage container by other kids who scream and laugh at you, saying you're trash and belong in there - you can guess by looking at it, that it's an unpleasant experience but you have no idea until it actually happened to you. You don't let it show but it sticks with you. And if you experienced this with girls standing around laughing too (which I gladly didn't), then chances are that in your later life, you will pass on the experience of being dehumanized and told to be trash to whichever woman ends up in a situation she can't escape with you. (that also didn't happen to me but the girls at my schools also collectively looked down on physical violence, so the boys only did it when no girls were watching and i never had the necessary trauma aspect to want to turn the abuse men did to me against women who didn't even try to help - because the girls i knew did try to help and had my father not indoctrinated me with all sort of sexist bullshit, I could have just taken that help and have spend my time as practically one of the girls as I secretly desired anyways. So, i hate my father and a specific type of men instead of women in general)
Anyways, my point is that we need to stop violence against children of ALL genders, also violence between the children. This obviously doesn't include sports but outside of that, if we look away while a kid is beaten and put in a trashcan, that kid will grow into an adult who has been taught early that to other people he isn't even human and so he acts accordingly. I would assume that with girls it's not that different but the situation is very different and i never grew up as a female child, so how would I know for sure. But from what I've heard, I can't choose which is more hellish...
I feel that if you are AMAB there's a fine line between emasculating pity and disgust that you "could have let such happen". It is horrible. I'm sorry.
Yeah I'm a cis dude and my mom beat me all the time.
So much so that I just assumed it was normal.
Told my entire class (including the teacher) that it is once.
Did anything happen?
Nope.
Just stunned silence.
Didn't even get called to the office about it.
Personally I think it was just sexism ingrained so hard that nobody even knew what to do with the roles being reversed.
Also that was 20 years ago.
As a AFAB person (not trans exactly, but NB which is under that umbrella) I can honestly say ya it is different. It also depends on how others treat you based on your race, neurotype, disability or able-bodied appearance, etc. But yeah, overall kids should not be abused EVER, and normalizing it happening to any CHILD is horrific.
I personally never understood the whole "boys be tough" "girls are dainty angels" thing since I grew up with male siblings, and was often treated like a boy due to my violent streak. So I got a weird mix of both just because of that and it didn't feel quite as gendered.
But I'd say there is a definite difference in the reasons people disbelieve children. For boys I'd say it's a sort of "boys will be boys they are violent" thing, where the violence towards them and boys on other boys is normalized for toxic masculine standards. The idea that they are growing into men.
For girls it's more of a "they are so innocent, they can't do anything wrong or unladylike (including violence)" so anything deviating from that is seen as abnormal for a girl and more likely to be looked into as to why they are violent--such as an abusive parent. But at the same time is more likely to be punished verbally or emotionally rather than physically because of the "you can't hit a girl" thing. (Which always drove me crazy as an AFAB kid who wanted to wrestle for fun on the playground, lol.)
But even then, I'd still say there is a huge societal issue with not listening to children in general, so children fighting other children is often ignored, and adults hurting children is ignored unless proven due to the power dynamic where children are assumed to be liars or wrong because of their age. (Since kids are basically treated as property)
Overall, I'd say yes it is different, the punishments are different, but the message that you will not be believed is the same. Just gives different reasons as to why and thus forces the gender rolls of "be docile" for girls and "be aggressive" for boys. It's so dumb...
If a woman attacks a man, the man should simply restrain her and break up with her. Problem solved.
Here’s my auto prediction: “Woman are …” _the most important thing to you in your relationship with me I am so proud to have met her_
*women
@@shannond1511 oops …
Here’s what it should’ve been: “Women are …” _not allowed in this house and they don’t want their kids in this room so I have no idea why you are not going out of town for the next couple days_
@@mizixy9624why is every auto prediction like that omg
Mine was similar
"Women are in need to necessarily be the victim to their own sponsorships of their troops near the police station."
A completely coherent message that I absolutely stand by.
Women are in notes and I am glad
I don't have enough braincells to say anything of substance, but I adore the manta ray earrings and strawbebby sweater 🥺❤ your entire aesthetic is A+
The gas station story is too real. I've had some tough interactions with women not taking no for an answer, or even straight up drunkenly mistaking me for some other guy and getting loud/aggressive in public and the LAST thing I would want is another stranger, regardless of gender, to walk over and expect me to just fall in step with some lie they made up on the spot to "save me". Yikes.
“Woman are the best people in the whole world and we need to be more like them.”
I’m genuinely not being a pick me this is what I got 😭😭😭
Those Manta ray earrings are killing me I love them so much
DUDE THE BOB THING IS SO TRUE. I WOULD GO FOR A DUDES HAIRCUT. CLASSIC SHORT MANS HAIRCUT AND THEY GIVE ME A BOB.
I'm trans masc. Wanted a short back and sides for the haircut :-| I was given a shoulder length style. Clownery istg
My phone says “women are the most beautiful people on the internet”
My phone isn’t a misogynist yay
You are stunning you are so bright and bubbly love your videos you are so honest and truthful the world needs more feminisim
Her complaint is that there are too many white knights and simps. Therefore, the world needs less feminism.
I MAKE WAY BETTER CONTENT THAN KIWI!😂t
@@OfficerZlock you didn't make any content just checked you're channel
Thank you for making my day a little brighter, as you always do when you post! I love this community! ♥️
I MAKE WAY BETTER CONTENT THAN KIWI!😂t
i do have some compassion for the metal show guy. ive been to metal concerts where there's all ages, AND a mosh pit. ive gone to metal concerts with chaperones who moshed too. i wonder if for a lot of the men who intervene in situations, they're finally realizing how traumatizing it is, and don't know how to reckon with it. ive intervened instances before (granted, im nonbinary, raised being told im a girl) and like. it really is mortifying. there's the need to tell *someone* about it. undeniably there's also a factor of men wanting recognition for "peforming manly duties", it does come across as a humble brag, i think ultimately... if this story was true. it does sound like the man telling the story did what he thinks he should be doing, but the fact it was even necessary was probably shaking him up. witnessing that shit in real time does mess with you
I actually think your hair looks really pretty. Like smooth and shiny and halthy.
Can I just ask why the man in that hypothetical story saw a woman get harassed and his mind went straight to “oh, what she needs is someone pretending to be her boyfriend so she can be left alone”? Isn’t that kinda telling on himself that he thinks a man’s sense of infringed “right” is more valuable than the will to survive of a woman who is literally being the one that’s harassed? Like she’s the boyfriend’s property and really he is the victim of what’s happening? A woman’s defense against being harassed is only having a boyfriend and otherwise she’s screwed? That pissed me off so much.
The boyfriend lie is actually sort of reasonable, here: it gives the perpetrators an easy way out, allowing them to back down without having their egos hurt and so the situation is less likely to escalate. Of course these idiots should also just leave quietly when told 'no', but that seems to be beyond their comprehension.
its a non confrontational way to defuse the situation
I MAKE WAY BETTER CONTENT THAN KIWI!😂t
It's more that men respect other men more than they respect women. As sad as it is.
Well, what should he have done? Start insulting the perpetrators, making them vengeful, waiting for the woman in a dark alley with a knife? Maybe fight them?
But yes, in this case there would be no sexism. Even though it was not sexism - but a pretense of sexism, in order to fight off the attackers
„Women are so so pretty“
I can’t believe this either that this is what my phone gave me 😂
hi!! i love your hair cut! if you can, can you maybe do a collab with film cooper? he doesn’t exactly cover the same things you do often but you both are very funny and i think it’d be awesome to see you two together!
yesss i'd love to see that collab!
Yes!! That would be an amazing collab!!!
i was legit just about to comment this lol
@@cardboard.box27 lol
that reminds me, has she ever done a collab?
i tried the “women are..” thing n it said “women are not safe in their homes” MY GOD WJAT
you know its a good day when she posts❤
Dylan Mulvaney is a man
The earrings are so cute omg!!!✨
your hair is so pretty!!!!
never been this early to a video - your haircut looks lovely!! really enjoy your videos
3:11 he deserves a thank you bro risked his safety for hers 😭
8:29 Corporations during Women’s Day be like:
The "I look forward to protecting you" post has the same vibes as those class action lawsuit ads
my best friend says they love your hair every time you're on screen. this isn't relevant to the video but i thought it was cute
4:20
Abuse is abuse, no matter the age, gender, or relationship.
ABUSE IS ABUSE!
Women are in a unique mood to get a good one thing for a long day and then I will be in the park and I will cry again if you don’t need to do them all in my room lol
What-
Just got a bob myself! I think I look like a fashionable mushroom.
It's so annoying how guys get butt-fucking-hurt over being ,,friendzoned" like bro you're not my type, you might be a cool guy but you're just not my type, ACCEPT REJECTION
8:21 My woman auto fill lol. Women are so cute I just don’t want them in my face so much and I’m so much better with that I don’t want them in my life.
Me when i see another lesbian in the city and run away after making eye contact
WOMEN DONT OWE YOU SHIT, WITH YOUR DUSTY TIM TIMS!
-king kitty
“Women are not allowed in this world anymore because of their own personal preferences and their gender” I think my phone is misogynistic too
Some of these stories are probably true. Mosh pit incident something like that happened to someone ik. And pretending to be their friend or boyfriend if they see a woman being harassed that has occurred as well. In a world where doing nothing is the default just encouraging this behavior can do a lot. Positive reinforcement is important here.
Gonna try the text prediction thing:
"Women are a good idea."
I mean, VERY fair.
Also, I’ve seen 13 year olds at all ages shows with mosh pits. It’s usually young local bands. The venues would normally be 18 or 21 and up but they would get permits for these shows. Lots of adults are still into metal so they would be willing to go with their kid, especially if it’s their kid’s first show. I’ve seen things like this happen at shows. No all ages show but at venues… usually at big concerts. I’ve been the girl that someone had to get out of a bad situation, too. However, usually when people post about this it’s more an encouragement on how others can help, like ‘never be afraid to get involved. I saw something really sketchy tonight and I’m glad that I did something, because sometimes people are afraid to get involved, and we should all try to do better’ or something.
My phone: "Women are being sent out by a stealth of a similar texture and the Night trilogy."
I have no clue wtf the Night trilogy would be.
at the metal concert one i’m not sure how likely that is, like i’ve been to many metal concerts and the thing is that not only one guy will be protecting women, there’s multiple especially if the woman is young
Mine says “Woman are commonly“ and then it just cuts off for some reason
"women are the same for you what the heck you are doing"
i have no idea what this means but its hilarious
I love your hair! The pastels are so cute!
"Women are the best way to reach me and I will be used or are required"
Huh
“Women are in their own skin with the same age as the women in their lives are you in the same way you know what you are and what you mean like you and me and I know how to tell him I don’t want you in my arms”
Tbh- I thought it was going to say “woman are hot-“
Love the hair!
just started the video and even though you dont like the post-haircut bob lol i must say i love how your rainbow colors look right now
My phone’s autocomplete to the prompt: “Women are more important in society today because men and girls 👧 can become equal 🟰 and more likely in their careers and in life because men have a better understanding about how their body is being made of water.”
@overlordfemto7523 Your mom takes me
"Women are you and your family and I love you so much and I love you so much and I love you so much for your assistance and I love you so much for your assistance and I love you and I love you too my love you are amazing and I love you and I love you too my love you can be blessed to be a woman and I love you too 3 thanks for your time to be blessed to be a woman and I love you too" - my keyboard
put this over a dance beat and it'd be a banger
Considering how often Teslas catch on fire are we sure that $70k donation wasn't an attempted murder?
I decided to try “men are…” and got this😰
Men are in the woods
As a non binary person who has forgot fo make this clear to the stylist, I’ve ended up with the bob too many times because the hair dresser always thinks they’re being helpful by “feminizing” the hair cut and framing my face…
I love your hair! It totally suits you!
This always freaks me out. It gives the vibes of someone who would save you from an abuser so that they could be your abuser. It feels icky. Not every single one of them, but that vibe of "I should be thanked".
And while I can see wanting positive reinforcement for doing something helpful, as someone with ADHD who loves dopamine, if you do it for the reward you are doing it for the wrong reason. A thank you or a praise is a nice cherry on top, but you do it because it's the right thing to do and you want to live in a world where people help each other like this.
...my phone also predicted "women are allowed in this house anymore and they are being treated as such"?? misogyny got my phone too rip
Dude your haircut looks like my mom and it’s all I see now 😭 but it is really pretty
My phone completed it like that:
"Women are in love with me but they don't want me anymore to be honest with them and I'm afraid that they will never going back"
That friend zone analogy is spot on.
I tried the phone thing. I think I've been talking about headaches and D&D. Don't know where taboo came from though.
Women are not taboo in their own way and the way to go is a good day for me and my head to work off the top to get my hands tied up with the party for a long session with a raging and the other two people who are in the center cauldron is the most common
This is such funny segment. Your rebuttal are funny and wise. Insightful. You look super cute. Do you shop on modcloth. Your style reflects your personality 😊
I didn’t know about this Reddit thread. It’s giving that they like to look like the hero and care more about that than actually dismantling the patriarchy. Like, I feel they’d be a bit down if the patriarchy ended and they couldn’t “show off” how kind/tough/caring they are … but those traits are performative if they are showing them off on Reddit at all.
It’s so weird.
8:21 my phone: "Women are you ready for the first time ever you ready for the first time ever you ready for the first time ever"
Me: wut?
Mine’s not much better: “Women are more likely than children to have the ability and ability of their bodies”
women are not wearing the shorts yet
Women are in crisis 😂
These stories of these men that are so proud of themselves are just reminding me of this fundie snark comment someone made in a video when a fundie was doing the bare minimum. "do you want a cookie?? People should just be doing decent stuff because they can."
If a man is coming to the defense of a woman especially being harassed yes act like your family or their partner it creates less possibility for conflict if you just say “leave that woman alone” you’ve made two targets and one of them is likley going to get the shit kicked out of them pretending to be a husband or brother is more than likley going to chase away the people harassing the woman than a complete stranger in order to have protection the protector needs to protect themselves as a person who’s been a victim of bullying telling someone not to mess with someone as a stranger never ends well
i did the misogyny check thing and chose the left autofill each time and got the exact same first sentence as this guy
I went to an Evanescence concert when I was 14/15 with my sister and we were in a mash pit.
white knight and being called a simp are usually used for the same reason. Basically to shut down criticism. "oh you are just white knight for her" "you are such a simp". etc.
A lot of these example seem very fake "nice guy".
That Clara Bow Bob, the brilliant outfit and the absolute sarcasm throughout the video …. What a perfect combination Kiwi, Just bloody loved it Savannah x
Just clicked on the video but OH MY GOD YOUR HAIR LOOKS SO GOOD, I love the way the colors are looking
Your hair is so cute. Ooh and my auto complete said this: Women are just a little bit of a lot of people like that and the new order is so much better than the other one for the best of the world to be doing it.
🙃🤷🏽♀️
Don’t think I didn’t notice the Mantine earrings! I ADORE THEM!
The one from 9:58 reminded me of that guy I saw in a birthday party years ago: me and a couple of guys were just talking about some random video game we like, then out of nowhere one guy just screamed from the other table "SO GOOD TO SEE LITTLE GIRLS WITH THEIR INNOCENCE PRESERVED, RIGHT?!! LOOK AT THAT ONE, WEARING A SHORT UNDER HER SKIRT!!! GOOD FOR HER!!!"
...the girl he was pointing to, talking to his brother (?) wasn't more than ten years old. We all looked at him, then to the girl he was pointing to...
Like, the fact that he looked for long enough to notice a short under the skirt and thought that literally scream about it was gonna make him sound noble, or whatever 😳...
Ooh, and he's not the only one. My country has this increase of people exactly like him, "prude-watchers"; so creepy 😖.
Your hair is magical!
@ 4:30 ish when I was still struggling to present masc, and my X was emotionally and physically abusive. I am much happier NOW, 2.4 years after an 11 year relationship... All i can say is hindsight is definitely 20/20
My phone's autocorrect said, and I kid you not, "women are you". I have no idea what that means 😂😂😂
the metal concert thing about the groping thing, while i don’t believe that this happened, i went to a metal show last night and i am 16 i was with my dad and there was a mosh pit, it was an all ages show