If it makes you feel any better, Games Workshop had to Gary Stu chaos because Archaon got his arse kicked the first time around. The Storm of Chaos is the true end.
I feeeeel you! I had literally just finished painting a huge Wood Elf army, went to my first ever tournament (Moonstruck), fell utterly in love with the community, AND then BAM!! No more tourneys.
So, if I understand correctly, basically every important character died, escaped or turned into something. Also gods shows up. And then Skaven basically finally notices the fact that they are OP.
I fking hate skaven for this reason. They are too many, they have no threats but themselves (who would try to attack their infested cities anyways?), they have a mix of magic and technology , they don't lack strength because they have fking rat ogres, abominations and the pure numbers, etc. Like how can any other race compete with them if they unite like they did in the End times? If chaos wasn't bad enough you had this pest underground attacking by surprise any minute like they did with the dwarves.
Don kinda the point. It’s an allegory. No one can stop a United working class, therefore the bouguoise must at all times keep their knee upon our necks, yes-yes.
Dektarey You do know this is Warhammer right? A setting that has always, from the very beginning by design and deliberately been a political statement. If you don’t like it, “you will not be missed.”
@@polemikful They can use Dwarfs and Elves, but don't want to because rival companies build proxy-minis and they can't stop them if it isn't copyright.
That is what happens when Chaos is so powerful At least in Age of Sigmar: -Chaos can't use numerical superiority to defeat its enemies anymore -There is more unity/teamwork in the anti-Chaos factions
The Dark Elves in reality would have exterminated themselves alongside the High Elves (Or join Chaos) Either way, the Forces of Order, Death and Destruction would have lost two extra factions What doesn't make sense is that the Empire (or other Human Factions) and Dark Elves never had a full blown war
The Dark Elves had to cross an ocean to reach any of the human factions. There wasn't a huge war or anything like a chaos incursion, but they definitely raided the southern kingdoms(There is a time in the DE 8th edition codex where Hellebron led an army to Bretonnia). High Elves i'm sure kept an eye on the ocean to watch for passing Dark Elf fleets.
It’s like Tyrion was the only sane and good-hearted person left? Yes desperate times call for desperate measures but holy fuck Teclis did a lot of backstabing and betrayal.
The worst of it is how that completely flies in the face of all established characterisation. The whole of the Old World got massively fucked over by the End Times godawful writing, but in my opinion, the Elves (all flavours of them) got by far the worst of it, with just decades of established lore and character thrown out the window for no god-damn reason.
I am sad that GW decided to just blow up the Warhammer world in the most moronic way possible, instead of maybe doing it right or expanding the lesser nations of the Warhammer world. In the end, either way would've better than what they did.
Apparently, GW did this because Fantasy was nowhere near as successful as 40K, so they thought destroying Fantasy and "magical, medieval 40K" would be better.
@@robertnelson9599 Warhammer Total War was an outstanding success. They've had shite writers for Fantasy for literally decades; 40k had a superior talent pool and wasn't more novel than just a rebranded Tolkein universe.
@@robertnelson9599 I mean tbh end times got me interested in Warhammer Fantasy with Vermintide, and the Total War Warhammer games. It is incredibly stupid but I thought end times sounded cool.. boy was I wrong.
@@EpochUnlocked Huh?! What does the humans have to do with the elven population? As far as I know it was the dwarfs who caused the elven population to flee the continent.
middle east is a region for ignorant fucks :) therefore its in asia and turkey being alittle part of europe :D jaehaehaeh humanity is depravity the seven deadly sins loves you all mmmm hatred and fear mmmmmm
>corporate execs: let's shatter the existing lore so we can grab copyrights and boost model sales Also corporate execs: let's release popular triple A titles using the old lore which will want to get people into the older models
A potentially great lore ruined by greedy corporate a-holes so that they can implement their own version of the game. The biggest BS in this is: how can chaos armies (living in lands lacking food and wealth) out-number and-out equipped the established economies in the south (with all their farms and technology). The original lore builders are weeping, all their beautiful world building wasted.
Wait, people hate that they killed/yeeted every main character? The story could have better put together, but I love that there exists a story where the """"good"""" guys lose. Way too many comeback stories where everything turnes out great in the end. Eh, might just be my love for bittersweet and tragedy.
Started getting really into the warhammer fantasy lore, and everyone kept saying, "fuck the end times." Wasn't fully sure why aside from the usual "everybody dies" comment I got. But after watching your video that did a pretty good summary of what happened, I can also now say, ya "fuck the end times." The Grimgor kicking the Everchosen in the nuts was probably the only good/funny moment out of the end times. Awesome vid as well.
TheComradeGamers They actually made that non-canon( the kicking in the balls) what actually happened is that Grimgor head butted Archaeon, breaking the eye of sheeran. Archaon was so mad by this, that he grabbed his sword and decapitate Grimgor in such a gruesome way that even Sigmar would had been afraid.
I don't care how many chaos demons the Everchosen has slain: if Karl Franz hits you with Ghal Maraz, you AIN'T getting back up. And you sure as fuck ain't killing Deathclaw with your very next blow.
gw was like wait the lizardmen empire almost alone took on most of chaos in the first invasion, they have mages that can wipe our armies and move mountains with their mind and super powerful armies how should we deal with them. we can just say all their armies are gone and all their slann are sleeping. that's lazy af notice the world got ruined by chaos but they never even set foot in lustria the children of the old ones would have butchered them
@@heartpaid6767 They don't, GW has never had the balls to go there. All the violence imaginable is fine but even Slaanesh worshippers are never outright called rapists.
@@danielwoods3896 ikr, thats so funny I miss the old days where Tyrion banging his queen was popular, but now having sex is a no no because GW would get jealous of fictional characters having it
Basicaly: endtime comes, elves don't care and keep infighting. All plots resolved, chaos useless background. The villain saves the day, while all the good guys get a brain meltdown and turn batshit crazy... Figures. I believe the wrters asked themselves: "what's so outside everyone's expectations they'll never see it coming?" The answer being: something so awfully bad no one in their right mind would believe anyone would be going for it. Retconning the storm of chaos where Archaon lost and should have died to go on whith this clusterf*ck is a move that still baffles me. The only amusing thing is Endtimes = Vermintide with just a smidge of chaos added on top; don't underestimate the rats :p
@@BrotherSantodes already watched the whole video just like seeing arch warhammer get made fun of. Anyway I saw it was a year ago right after I commented but left it there
you know, listening to this, the thought struck me, that at any point any emperor of the empire of man could have wiped out almost all the skaven by just finding an opening to the under empire by the sea, build a canal to it, then flood the entire under-empire in one go, drowning most of the species.
@@biropgrules Eh no draining the seas. Give it a lowering, and heavily damage the local biosphere, but nowhere near "dry", the seas, you see, are a fuckton of water. Tho the warp stone likely would also poison the water.... underwater Skaven sounds fun too
Sigmar turns Karl into the God-Emperor of mankind... then goes on to make his Stormcast Eternals [Thunder Warriors/Custodes] after meeting a Star Dragon [Void Dragon of Mars] and uniting the forces of the old world to crusade against Chaos..
Part of me likes the idea of “God-Emperor of Mankind but not a raging asshole” but there’s so many other ways they could have done this. Here’s an idea I had. Make the End Times the story of a world wide fighting retreat where the good factions send people and souls to some other world the chaos gods can’t get to, for a while. So instead of this fuckery it’s fantasy Dunkirk, which isn’t the best idea but it’s better then this shit.
One thing that confuses me the most is that, here in the End Times the Chaos Dwarfs are entirely wiped out and Hashut is killed, but in Age of Sigmar they're both still around (with the Chaos Dwarfs being called the Legion of Azgorh)
Well they've also said that everything is cannon but not necessarily true as they're supposed to be from an in universe perspective, but that was for 40k.
Been playng WFRP for well over 20 years, i'm pretty sure my dwarf killed Hashut while being butt naked, during his first campaign no matter what GW says.
15:52 the Orcs probably hate chaos because they think that their worshippers are cheating. For Chaos they get super powers to fight for their gods. But the Orcs don’t get help, they fought their way, tooth and nail, to be “Da Best in da world!” Fuck chaos, I’m proud of you Grimgor.
I still can't fathom how the Elves can muster world-spanning armies if they're going the way of the dodo (like all Elves in fiction), or why in the fuck would they allow the psychopath who wanted to destroy them to be their king.
Consider this,a species has 700 billion members and it drops to 70 billion through some extinction event,is this a massive blow to their numbers and leaves them a former shadow of themselfs ? Yes but at the same time 70 billion is not a small number
@@bartu913 I mean compared to Daemons (which are eternal and OP because of course), the undead (who are always popping up) AND the Skaven (who can replenish their numbers in a single day).
28:4028:56 I think there was a loop in the editing there, mate. Great lore video though, didn't even know half of the shitshow that was the end times so it's nice to know more of the downward spiral into age of sigmar.
So basically the Skaven learned how to achieve their final form, cooperation, who would have thought? Teclis betrayed everyone, and irronically it kinda ends up working.... except Saving Tyrion that kinda fucked things up. Elves were led by the rightful king.... who was also not a good person at all. Karl Franz can seemingly survive anything, wow. Lizardmen experienced a nerf so hard, they decided it was better to just leave the planet or die to aids and space crap. Brittonia died, and sort of showed up only to die again anyway. Nagash is back but nerfed enough that he needs to cooperate with the rest of the world. All the minor factions can just fuck off and die. Dwarves Pretty much died as well. Greenskins bashed some heads, then teleported to the final battle and bashed some more heads. But all this could have been good.... except Mannfred completely lost his mind for seemingly no reason, truly he is not just the scourge of the empire but the scourge of the world. Nice job dumby.
The Skaven being able to wipe out entire factions so easily is really dumb because we have seen them united before and they were not invincible. They could not defeat Nagash when united against him. Plus the Skaven are suddenly cannon fodder when they join Chaos.
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but you left out one of my favorite bits of Skaven lore, on why clan Pestilens has such a hate-boner for the Lizardmen. It used to be that Clan Pestilens was becoming a wholly united Skaven superpower, as they were effectively lead by the Plague Priests in devotion to spread disease and enact the horned Rat's will (He's moving in on Nurgle's turf). The other Skaven clans were afraid of how powerful Pestilens was becoming, and Pestilens launched a fucking massive invasion of Lustria that would of destroyed the Lizardmen (you have no idea how many fucking Skaven there are). The Slann saved themselves by calling down meteorite storms that shattered the Pestilens might, and again balanced the factions in Skaven politics. Pestilens might of conquered the whole world if this had not happened, so they must of been begging to lead the invasion of Lustria during the End-Times.
The End Times summed up: **throws miniatures and lore books on the ground, then pulls down pants** HHHUUUURRGGGHH **explosive diarrhea all over the WHFB pile** . Then LucasFilm thought it was such a good idea, they decided to do it to Star Wars, with a side of feminism.
Too be fair the EU was a inconsistent clusterfuck with the Star Trek race, the space zombie cliche, stupidly OP characters, and the annoying solo siblings that were glorified plot devices.
@@mariobadia4553 The EU had tons of trash. But scraping it without much of plan did more harm than good. They should have been more selective about it. Building on established lore is easier than making your own.
@@charlie1234500 eh some do it well though. like in Wheel of Time, its the whole point. in there, every spoke of the Wheel brings about a worldbreaking event which brings about a new age. pretty cool stuff honestly
In Bethesda games you are god, no matter if you use ~TGM or just play and level up. But in the end you are also just a play thing of the Elders scrolls.
Actually Bethesda kind of already did, but they didn't kill the entire lore. In the 5th Era, (supposedly), the Numidium will destroy Nirn while some species will be able to flee to one of the moons.
Been a fan of 40K for years. Just now starting to look into Fantasy lore after getting Total War Warhammer 2 and Vermintide 2. And as much shit End Times deservedly gets, this is mind blowing to me. “Hey, y’know Malekith, the Dark Elf lord? Yeah, he told his mom to fuck off, he pulled a scorched earth retreat into Ulthuan, and immediately declared himself king of all elves, which apparently was divinely ordained.” “Holy shit, that’s cool.” “Also, you know Alarielle?” “The High Elf lord that looks like a Google image search of “hot elf” would pull up?” “That’s the one. So anyway, she goes to the Oak of Ages where their goddess is pitching a fit, so she absorbs her, gains the loyalty of Orion and all the wood elves, and then teleports back to Ulthuan to marry Malekith.” “Didn’t he send a Slaaneshi demon to kill and rhymes with grape her?” “Yep.” “And we’re not gonna comment on that and just accept it?” “Yep.” “Fair enough.”
This was horribly rushed, I almost want to say the lizardmen could have been handled better, perhaps revealing the slans huge amount of power is connected to the geomantic we , the skaven or some other faction sabatages it and the slann suddenly lose much of their power, even Kroak and Mazdammundi. It also drastically powers down the powerful weapons the lizardmen have access to and makes them overall weaker never knowing they were connected to the web more than they ever knew. Then that would have nerfed them to more acceptable levels and allowed them to take part in the final battle. As for mannfred, it really doesn't make sense. He basically just gives up. He's not one to just give up from what I can tell, and he wants to take over the Empire, so why not think "If we stop Chaos I'll have my chance later down the road, I am immortal after all" but nope he out of sheer plot convenience decides to betray the very world he wants to conquer and ruins everything for everyone besides Chaos.
Nothing like joining a new fandom and finding out its finale ended 4 years ago with the entire setting being destroyed and rebooted And that everyone hates the ending
Something inside of me is pleased that the last realm to fall was Athel Loren, protected by the best heroes of the elven race. This was the aspect of Warhammer fantasy which intrigued me most. Primal, elemental magic. Where was the revelations about the creation of the old(Warhammer fantasy) world? Where was the reveal of the "Old Ones" and their role in creating the supposed universe? Who were the "Old Ones" and how were they able to build a temporary world caught in the balance between Chaos corruption and Freedom of will? Why did their plan ultimately fail? Were the "Old Ones" of warhammer fantasy the Eldar of Warhammer 40k?
God they better reverse this shit somehow. The writing was so bad during the End Times that it wouldn't take much to bring everything back to normal. "hehe everyone came back to life and lizards came back :)" I like rats though, keep the rats.
The best ending to this fuckery would have been once the world was consumed by Chaos a Space Marine armada shows up and performs an exterminatus, then moves on to wherever they were going next. Then the people who made the End Times plot all died of stroke.
I honestly wouldn't mind most of the End Times stuff except for literally everything involving Mannfred. That final betrayal is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of
Watching this before playing Warhammer 3 was actually a great idea cause I have no clue what the fuck is going on in that world besides demons being dickheads to everyone
Durthu used to do more damage to the old world than Archaon back when the wood elves first came out in total warhammer. He would genocide EVERYONE. there'd be nothing left good chaos by the time they showed up lmao
In my game he slaughtered everyone except me (I bribed his ass off ) and then he formed an alliance with Chaos of all people and curbstomp me) tree hitler Of course thats before CA made them extremely isolationist
Wait, they just kidnapped the fay enchantress? wat? The most important person in Bretonnia was just kidnapped willy nilly? and they slit her throat, was that is? The woman who can turn people into frogs just by looking at them was the equivalent of a lamb. wat? I'm sorry could someone explain to me how this happened?
Technically speaking, the End Times from the Vermintide games might not end up playing out the same awful way they did. Dunno if i should keep my jopes up though
About the LM you forgot to mention that they lost none of the battles, exept the ones where they baited skaven jews with gold to group them up in the city, before a skink priest sent a comet on their head killing them all. Yeah... they actually won the war, the skavens were just desperated and attacked Hexoalt with their entire army, if it wasnt for the moon, their entire army would have been slay, since Skrolk had been killed by kroq gar leaving them without leadership. Just a bit of a correctif :)
@@majorkill well They won almost all of their Battles, I cant remember a single clear defeat, they won the grand majority of the battles, they sustained extremely high casualties tough, but all those victories forced all the remaining skavens to do a hail mary play, in the final battle they were left without leadership and broken. I cant remember a single templs city that was lost, exept the one where Tetto'eko sent a comet on it to kill the Skavens. I may be wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went :)
www.lustria-online.com/threads/lizardmen-end-times-important-moments-spoilers.15646/ Here is where I read about it so if Im wrong Blame this guy and me a bit for not fact checking more, but its rough finding ET lore since everybody hate it 😂
Like I said in a previous comment, your channel got me into Warhammer but as far as I've learned (lore wise) the End Times seems about as enjoyable as getting shovel fucked with a rusty shovel. Games Workshop really fucked off a good opportunity for something glorious with the clusterfuck that is the End Times.
Fuck GW. I started collecting Bretonians as my first army. Such a cool premise for an army I thought that wasn't your standard 'Empire' yet not too far fetched like skaven or vampires. Not once were they updated or given new miniatures while all the other factions got revamp after revamp. Kill them off 100% or give them as much attention as everyone else. I don't even collect Warhammer anymore but it still pisses me off how my bois got treated. Green Knight is a G. Won me sooo Manny battles.
You go over the same lines twice at 28:30. Still, really great video dude loved all the visuals that were put in. I keep hearing the end time books were bad but the way you told the story in the IDGAF and straight-to-the-point way kept me really interested
Not all the Blood Dragons went to Khorne. Their creator, the greatest fucking warrior in the entire history of the world, Abhorash, never went to Chaos. And as the world goes to shit and ends, he's fighting back to back with his bro from way back Giles de Breton against Chaos. They go out like fucking MEN, and weren't ever beaten. The world just ended.
Stop removing this video RUclips, I know it's shit but come on
Their being unepic
There jealous of your greatness.
Yes
Damn I miss old majorkill vids like this
Hi
I got into warhammer fantasy as soon as the lore was murdered, 10/10 would crush my soul again.
Play Total War Warhammer
It balances the game by debuffing Chaos
i relate on a supreme level. WHY MY PRECIOUS TOMB KINGS WHY
If it makes you feel any better, Games Workshop had to Gary Stu chaos because Archaon got his arse kicked the first time around. The Storm of Chaos is the true end.
I feeeeel you! I had literally just finished painting a huge Wood Elf army, went to my first ever tournament (Moonstruck), fell utterly in love with the community, AND then BAM!! No more tourneys.
i got into it with dark omen in playstation 1
So, if I understand correctly, basically every important character died, escaped or turned into something. Also gods shows up. And then Skaven basically finally notices the fact that they are OP.
I fking hate skaven for this reason. They are too many, they have no threats but themselves (who would try to attack their infested cities anyways?), they have a mix of magic and technology , they don't lack strength because they have fking rat ogres, abominations and the pure numbers, etc.
Like how can any other race compete with them if they unite like they did in the End times?
If chaos wasn't bad enough you had this pest underground attacking by surprise any minute like they did with the dwarves.
@@seifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee counter to them should be cat-people..
Don kinda the point. It’s an allegory. No one can stop a United working class, therefore the bouguoise must at all times keep their knee upon our necks, yes-yes.
@@piedpiper1172 Of course. These days even the skaven have to be made into a political statement by some dimwit.
Dektarey You do know this is Warhammer right? A setting that has always, from the very beginning by design and deliberately been a political statement.
If you don’t like it, “you will not be missed.”
"We can't copyright dwarves and elves so let's just kill off decades of lore to sell new miniatures."
Excuse me, why can't GW use commercially the concepts and names of elves and dwarves? (if that's what you are saying)
@@polemikful Tolkien
@@polemikful they get annoyed when people make bits for their minis and they couldn't copywrite it
@@polemikful They can use Dwarfs and Elves, but don't want to because rival companies build proxy-minis and they can't stop them if it isn't copyright.
@@polemikful The same reason 40k got primaris and "aeldari" or however the hell you spell it
"The only thing keeping this wall up is the faith of the empire in me. Imma start practicing my new dark magic by the VIP tents."
Actually, it was priests working with wizards. They quit after what Gelt did.
I learned a bunch of lore AND was thoroughly entertained. Good job, my dude.
Wyrmwood привет, вирмуд, можешь адаптировать этот ролик на русский?
@@Хуманити yes yes yes yes yes yes
"the dwarves were pretty disorganised in the way they were slewn" hahahahahahaha
Maethen Dias 26:00 lmao
Slain
When you ignore a beloved series for ten years, and then decide to take a peek at what's going on now.
I felt that
“The shadowking is a bit of a memer” lmao
People are right. The End Times is really, really bad.
That is what happens when Chaos is so powerful
At least in Age of Sigmar:
-Chaos can't use numerical superiority to defeat its enemies anymore
-There is more unity/teamwork in the anti-Chaos factions
This is what happens when they need to end the series to make something else. Bad writing.
The End Times is just bad writing period. Order's leadership did their own fair share of stupid shit for the sake of it.
The Dark Elves in reality would have exterminated themselves alongside the High Elves
(Or join Chaos)
Either way, the Forces of Order, Death and Destruction would have lost two extra factions
What doesn't make sense is that the Empire (or other Human Factions) and Dark Elves never had a full blown war
The Dark Elves had to cross an ocean to reach any of the human factions. There wasn't a huge war or anything like a chaos incursion, but they definitely raided the southern kingdoms(There is a time in the DE 8th edition codex where Hellebron led an army to Bretonnia). High Elves i'm sure kept an eye on the ocean to watch for passing Dark Elf fleets.
And then they NUKED THE MOON
the lizardmen part of the end times sound like a toddler put it together such as they nuked the moon and the lizardmen launched into space
Skaven yes-yes!
Easily the best part of the end times
That's just a big chunk of warp stone.
@@Geerladenlad It just emphasize how the Skaven are absolute crackheads.
"The Shadow King is a bit of a memer. So he also shot Malekith for laughs"
So, technically the lizards survived since some them straight up just left.
Lazy writing.
It’s like Tyrion was the only sane and good-hearted person left? Yes desperate times call for desperate measures but holy fuck Teclis did a lot of backstabing and betrayal.
The worst of it is how that completely flies in the face of all established characterisation. The whole of the Old World got massively fucked over by the End Times godawful writing, but in my opinion, the Elves (all flavours of them) got by far the worst of it, with just decades of established lore and character thrown out the window for no god-damn reason.
@@Archris17 Other than stupid corporate business decisions?
I agree... Im not surprised Tyrion lost his shit at this point
I am sad that GW decided to just blow up the Warhammer world in the most moronic way possible, instead of maybe doing it right or expanding the lesser nations of the Warhammer world. In the end, either way would've better than what they did.
Yeah there’s was still an entire continent full of content that they just did fuck all with.
Apparently, GW did this because Fantasy was nowhere near as successful as 40K, so they thought destroying Fantasy and "magical, medieval 40K" would be better.
@@robertnelson9599
Well they were stupid for thinking that and for not even trying to revive interest in Fantasy.
@@robertnelson9599 Warhammer Total War was an outstanding success. They've had shite writers for Fantasy for literally decades; 40k had a superior talent pool and wasn't more novel than just a rebranded Tolkein universe.
@@robertnelson9599 I mean tbh end times got me interested in Warhammer Fantasy with Vermintide, and the Total War Warhammer games.
It is incredibly stupid but I thought end times sounded cool.. boy was I wrong.
How the Elves can have so many armies, when they're basically a dying race?!
julio victor manuel schaeffer manrique there as many elves as the plot requires
@@ShidaiTaino oh yeah, I almost forgot.
Which ones? The ones on the continent are mostly gone because of humans. The ones over seas away from humans are still very numerous.
That's kind of the same thing with the Dwarfs.
@@EpochUnlocked Huh?! What does the humans have to do with the elven population? As far as I know it was the dwarfs who caused the elven population to flee the continent.
good god the end times were about as well put together as the middle east
middle east is a region for ignorant fucks :) therefore its in asia and turkey being alittle part of europe :D jaehaehaeh humanity is depravity the seven deadly sins loves you all mmmm hatred and fear mmmmmm
@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou you're an idiot
@@codikillsyou the feels bruv
that's a double burn b/c the borders in the middle east is also the British's fault...
It's about as well put together as Russian in 1919
>corporate execs: let's shatter the existing lore so we can grab copyrights and boost model sales
Also corporate execs: let's release popular triple A titles using the old lore which will want to get people into the older models
When you realized that Age of Sigmar is just an excuse to add fantasy space marines into warhammer fantasy😂
A potentially great lore ruined by greedy corporate a-holes so that they can implement their own version of the game. The biggest BS in this is: how can chaos armies (living in lands lacking food and wealth) out-number and-out equipped the established economies in the south (with all their farms and technology). The original lore builders are weeping, all their beautiful world building wasted.
Tbh I wouldn't think it far fetched for the chaos armies to be limitless but they shouldn't be able to easily bring them in the world.
Wait, people hate that they killed/yeeted every main character? The story could have better put together, but I love that there exists a story where the """"good"""" guys lose. Way too many comeback stories where everything turnes out great in the end. Eh, might just be my love for bittersweet and tragedy.
I believe Chaos Warriors at least don't need to eat. They can but don't need to
@@erlint Yeah except the story is one dude was like lul I'll end the world and then 3 dudes explode for no reason so everyone dies, the end... What?
@@MysticZefer The core idea, not the execution. Winds of magic and mannwhimp were dumb
Started getting really into the warhammer fantasy lore, and everyone kept saying, "fuck the end times." Wasn't fully sure why aside from the usual "everybody dies" comment I got. But after watching your video that did a pretty good summary of what happened, I can also now say, ya "fuck the end times." The Grimgor kicking the Everchosen in the nuts was probably the only good/funny moment out of the end times. Awesome vid as well.
TheComradeGamers They actually made that non-canon( the kicking in the balls) what actually happened is that Grimgor head butted Archaeon, breaking the eye of sheeran. Archaon was so mad by this, that he grabbed his sword and decapitate Grimgor in such a gruesome way that even Sigmar would had been afraid.
I don't care how many chaos demons the Everchosen has slain: if Karl Franz hits you with Ghal Maraz, you AIN'T getting back up. And you sure as fuck ain't killing Deathclaw with your very next blow.
@@nrhildija4145 Please, Sigmar would've been applauding.
gw was like wait the lizardmen empire almost alone took on most of chaos in the first invasion, they have mages that can wipe our armies and move mountains with their mind and super powerful armies how should we deal with them. we can just say all their armies are gone and all their slann are sleeping. that's lazy af notice the world got ruined by chaos but they never even set foot in lustria the children of the old ones would have butchered them
End Times final battle:
Grimgore nut checks Archeon
That's the high point, we can go home now.
Did Grimgor go away or did Archon impale Grimgor after getting kicked?
I’m still curious how he does this through all the armor.. also do Chaos even have nuts?
@@casedistorted of course, how do you think they grape their victims?
@@heartpaid6767 They don't, GW has never had the balls to go there. All the violence imaginable is fine but even Slaanesh worshippers are never outright called rapists.
@@danielwoods3896 ikr, thats so funny
I miss the old days where Tyrion banging his queen was popular, but now having sex is a no no because GW would get jealous of fictional characters having it
Basicaly: endtime comes, elves don't care and keep infighting. All plots resolved, chaos useless background. The villain saves the day, while all the good guys get a brain meltdown and turn batshit crazy... Figures. I believe the wrters asked themselves: "what's so outside everyone's expectations they'll never see it coming?" The answer being: something so awfully bad no one in their right mind would believe anyone would be going for it. Retconning the storm of chaos where Archaon lost and should have died to go on whith this clusterf*ck is a move that still baffles me. The only amusing thing is Endtimes = Vermintide with just a smidge of chaos added on top; don't underestimate the rats :p
I heard that the end times was shit writing, but damn. At least you made it entertaining.
The Arch Warhammer bit had me in Stitches.
I'm willing to pay $1000 for somebody to animate this video with your narration.
What part is it at
@@unusualswoop7660 Damn dude my comment was a year ago. How you expecting me to remember which part it was?
@@BrotherSantodes already watched the whole video just like seeing arch warhammer get made fun of. Anyway I saw it was a year ago right after I commented but left it there
@@BrotherSantodes bro answer the question
@@omberman Just watch the damn video man. When you find it let me know.
you know, listening to this, the thought struck me, that at any point any emperor of the empire of man could have wiped out almost all the skaven by just finding an opening to the under empire by the sea, build a canal to it, then flood the entire under-empire in one go, drowning most of the species.
Yes, also draining the seas.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 how big is the under empire? Like, i get it stretches under all the world, but is it one bigass massive cavern?
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 fuck it would of been hot though 🥵
@@biropgrules Pretty much.
@@biropgrules Eh no draining the seas. Give it a lowering, and heavily damage the local biosphere, but nowhere near "dry", the seas, you see, are a fuckton of water. Tho the warp stone likely would also poison the water.... underwater Skaven sounds fun too
Sigmar turns Karl into the God-Emperor of mankind... then goes on to make his Stormcast Eternals [Thunder Warriors/Custodes] after meeting a Star Dragon [Void Dragon of Mars] and uniting the forces of the old world to crusade against Chaos..
GW current decisions: "Space Marines, *IN EVERYTHING!* "
Part of me likes the idea of “God-Emperor of Mankind but not a raging asshole” but there’s so many other ways they could have done this. Here’s an idea I had. Make the End Times the story of a world wide fighting retreat where the good factions send people and souls to some other world the chaos gods can’t get to, for a while. So instead of this fuckery it’s fantasy Dunkirk, which isn’t the best idea but it’s better then this shit.
karl franz and vladdy daddy could have solo fucked chaos if the writers hadnt penciled them to death.
@@chiefbigsad7995 What about Nagash?
One thing that confuses me the most is that, here in the End Times the Chaos Dwarfs are entirely wiped out and Hashut is killed, but in Age of Sigmar they're both still around (with the Chaos Dwarfs being called the Legion of Azgorh)
GW is so stupid that they do not even know how to kill off a universe. They even bring back characters that officially died in The End Times.
Well they've also said that everything is cannon but not necessarily true as they're supposed to be from an in universe perspective, but that was for 40k.
Been playng WFRP for well over 20 years, i'm pretty sure my dwarf killed Hashut while being butt naked, during his first campaign no matter what GW says.
@@codyfreeman2556yeah that only really applies to 40k, fantasy is much more explicit and clear in historical events.
@@gilibrancousin Orki, is that you?
15:52 the Orcs probably hate chaos because they think that their worshippers are cheating. For Chaos they get super powers to fight for their gods. But the Orcs don’t get help, they fought their way, tooth and nail, to be “Da Best in da world!” Fuck chaos, I’m proud of you Grimgor.
I still can't fathom how the Elves can muster world-spanning armies if they're going the way of the dodo (like all Elves in fiction), or why in the fuck would they allow the psychopath who wanted to destroy them to be their king.
Consider this,a species has 700 billion members and it drops to 70 billion through some extinction event,is this a massive blow to their numbers and leaves them a former shadow of themselfs ? Yes but at the same time 70 billion is not a small number
@@bartu913 I mean compared to Daemons (which are eternal and OP because of course), the undead (who are always popping up) AND the Skaven (who can replenish their numbers in a single day).
28:40 28:56 I think there was a loop in the editing there, mate.
Great lore video though, didn't even know half of the shitshow that was the end times so it's nice to know more of the downward spiral into age of sigmar.
Oh thank god it wasn't just me that heard the loop, afraid I gotten a stroke first😂
So basically the Skaven learned how to achieve their final form, cooperation, who would have thought?
Teclis betrayed everyone, and irronically it kinda ends up working.... except Saving Tyrion that kinda fucked things up. Elves were led by the rightful king.... who was also not a good person at all.
Karl Franz can seemingly survive anything, wow.
Lizardmen experienced a nerf so hard, they decided it was better to just leave the planet or die to aids and space crap.
Brittonia died, and sort of showed up only to die again anyway.
Nagash is back but nerfed enough that he needs to cooperate with the rest of the world.
All the minor factions can just fuck off and die.
Dwarves Pretty much died as well.
Greenskins bashed some heads, then teleported to the final battle and bashed some more heads.
But all this could have been good.... except Mannfred completely lost his mind for seemingly no reason, truly he is not just the scourge of the empire but the scourge of the world. Nice job dumby.
The Skaven being able to wipe out entire factions so easily is really dumb because we have seen them united before and they were not invincible. They could not defeat Nagash when united against him.
Plus the Skaven are suddenly cannon fodder when they join Chaos.
The end times reads like Timmy’s first fan fiction. Just gonna pretend it’s not cannon.
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but you left out one of my favorite bits of Skaven lore, on why clan Pestilens has such a hate-boner for the Lizardmen. It used to be that Clan Pestilens was becoming a wholly united Skaven superpower, as they were effectively lead by the Plague Priests in devotion to spread disease and enact the horned Rat's will (He's moving in on Nurgle's turf). The other Skaven clans were afraid of how powerful Pestilens was becoming, and Pestilens launched a fucking massive invasion of Lustria that would of destroyed the Lizardmen (you have no idea how many fucking Skaven there are). The Slann saved themselves by calling down meteorite storms that shattered the Pestilens might, and again balanced the factions in Skaven politics. Pestilens might of conquered the whole world if this had not happened, so they must of been begging to lead the invasion of Lustria during the End-Times.
The End Times summed up: **throws miniatures and lore books on the ground, then pulls down pants** HHHUUUURRGGGHH **explosive diarrhea all over the WHFB pile** . Then LucasFilm thought it was such a good idea, they decided to do it to Star Wars, with a side of feminism.
Months later Bethesda looked at the other two and said "Hold my beer."
Too be fair the EU was a inconsistent clusterfuck with the Star Trek race, the space zombie cliche, stupidly OP characters, and the annoying solo siblings that were glorified plot devices.
@@mariobadia4553
The EU had tons of trash. But scraping it without much of plan did more harm than good. They should have been more selective about it. Building on established lore is easier than making your own.
Yeah pretty much
Been a fan of Bretonnia since 2003, and it really chafes my nads the way that GW treated them as an afterthought.
Imagine if Bethesda ever did something like this to the Elder Scrolls that would be absolutely heartbreaking
They almost did it during the Merethic Era with Alduin, and during the Oblivion Crisis with Mehrunes Dagon.
@@victuz I swear most fantasy storytelling go towards this "wipe everything off the board" plotline.
@@charlie1234500 eh some do it well though. like in Wheel of Time, its the whole point. in there, every spoke of the Wheel brings about a worldbreaking event which brings about a new age. pretty cool stuff honestly
In Bethesda games you are god, no matter if you use ~TGM or just play and level up. But in the end you are also just a play thing of the Elders scrolls.
Actually Bethesda kind of already did, but they didn't kill the entire lore. In the 5th Era, (supposedly), the Numidium will destroy Nirn while some species will be able to flee to one of the moons.
Been a fan of 40K for years. Just now starting to look into Fantasy lore after getting Total War Warhammer 2 and Vermintide 2. And as much shit End Times deservedly gets, this is mind blowing to me.
“Hey, y’know Malekith, the Dark Elf lord? Yeah, he told his mom to fuck off, he pulled a scorched earth retreat into Ulthuan, and immediately declared himself king of all elves, which apparently was divinely ordained.”
“Holy shit, that’s cool.”
“Also, you know Alarielle?”
“The High Elf lord that looks like a Google image search of “hot elf” would pull up?”
“That’s the one. So anyway, she goes to the Oak of Ages where their goddess is pitching a fit, so she absorbs her, gains the loyalty of Orion and all the wood elves, and then teleports back to Ulthuan to marry Malekith.”
“Didn’t he send a Slaaneshi demon to kill and rhymes with grape her?”
“Yep.”
“And we’re not gonna comment on that and just accept it?”
“Yep.”
“Fair enough.”
GW was smoking something
“They were very unorganized in the way they were slaughtered “ lmfao
I lost it at "Asian and normal people" XD
Non Non 😂😂😂
I chuckled, am Asian.
@@AZNpandalad suh my Asian brother
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What i got from this was Manfred was the real bringer of the end times.
And that's why even the diehard vampire fans dislike Mannfred. But even more the ones who ordered the end of the WH Fantasy.
I just love the way this video so closely emulates the direction Warhammer Fantasy itself took as time passes...
Completely cracked up at 'Lick my rim ****, Settra does not serve, Settra rules.'
This is the best WH Fantasy lore video in the history of WH Fantasy lore videos, probably ever.
This was horribly rushed, I almost want to say the lizardmen could have been handled better, perhaps revealing the slans huge amount of power is connected to the geomantic we , the skaven or some other faction sabatages it and the slann suddenly lose much of their power, even Kroak and Mazdammundi. It also drastically powers down the powerful weapons the lizardmen have access to and makes them overall weaker never knowing they were connected to the web more than they ever knew. Then that would have nerfed them to more acceptable levels and allowed them to take part in the final battle.
As for mannfred, it really doesn't make sense. He basically just gives up. He's not one to just give up from what I can tell, and he wants to take over the Empire, so why not think "If we stop Chaos I'll have my chance later down the road, I am immortal after all" but nope he out of sheer plot convenience decides to betray the very world he wants to conquer and ruins everything for everyone besides Chaos.
This video feels like it was made in the early 2000s. I'm having Australian high school flashbacks.
Nothing like joining a new fandom and finding out its finale ended 4 years ago with the entire setting being destroyed and rebooted
And that everyone hates the ending
I thought I was having a stroke when you went over Valten’s assassination twice.
I thought I was able to see the future for a minute
Warhammer: It's all Teclis and Manfred's fault.
Something inside of me is pleased that the last realm to fall was Athel Loren, protected by the best heroes of the elven race. This was the aspect of Warhammer fantasy which intrigued me most. Primal, elemental magic. Where was the revelations about the creation of the old(Warhammer fantasy) world? Where was the reveal of the "Old Ones" and their role in creating the supposed universe? Who were the "Old Ones" and how were they able to build a temporary world caught in the balance between Chaos corruption and Freedom of will? Why did their plan ultimately fail? Were the "Old Ones" of warhammer fantasy the Eldar of Warhammer 40k?
Balthazar Gelt inadvertently causing Teclis to explode while they're tying to do great magic is so funny to me
Do a video on your moms lost virginity.
Or Malekith that is good too.
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LMAO Sin SinaT TRIGGERED!
Im a Virgin because i never loose
@Sin SinaT Ironic or frail snowflake?
such vile language on this good christian site? REPORTED FOR SINNING!
this was meant for sinat forgot to click his name lol
God they better reverse this shit somehow. The writing was so bad during the End Times that it wouldn't take much to bring everything back to normal.
"hehe everyone came back to life and lizards came back :)"
I like rats though, keep the rats.
This video was better than the End Times.
The end times is just GW's real life version of the space marine autism screech. Do you know what this means guys and girl?
FOR THE EMPORAHHH!!!!1!1
The best ending to this fuckery would have been once the world was consumed by Chaos a Space Marine armada shows up and performs an exterminatus, then moves on to wherever they were going next. Then the people who made the End Times plot all died of stroke.
What they did to my lizard men was a crime
The skaven nuking the moon is literally the most skaven thing I have ever heard.
I honestly wouldn't mind most of the End Times stuff except for literally everything involving Mannfred. That final betrayal is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of
Can we all just Agree Queek did not at all deserve the pitiful sendoff he got?
Watching this before playing Warhammer 3 was actually a great idea cause I have no clue what the fuck is going on in that world besides demons being dickheads to everyone
What happened to Durthu? I've been playing as him in Total War and he's pretty damn sick.
Durthu used to do more damage to the old world than Archaon back when the wood elves first came out in total warhammer. He would genocide EVERYONE. there'd be nothing left good chaos by the time they showed up lmao
In my game he slaughtered everyone except me (I bribed his ass off ) and then he formed an alliance with Chaos of all people and curbstomp me) tree hitler
Of course thats before CA made them extremely isolationist
I think a full power Nagash and his armies are more than enough to take on the forces of chaos
Nice to see all that work I put into defending Ubersreik from the Vermintide was worth it.
Wait, they just kidnapped the fay enchantress? wat? The most important person in Bretonnia was just kidnapped willy nilly? and they slit her throat, was that is? The woman who can turn people into frogs just by looking at them was the equivalent of a lamb. wat? I'm sorry could someone explain to me how this happened?
This is like an audio book version of 1d4chan
What shall we do?
GW Writers: Make them a God and then everyone blows up.
Respect Cathay !
This one is very long and complicated story. you really make a good job for making this majorkill.
I can't hate the end times too much. It's what got me into Warhammer. Thanks vermintide
Sorry
Technically speaking, the End Times from the Vermintide games might not end up playing out the same awful way they did. Dunno if i should keep my jopes up though
Hey Major, I've watched all your End Times videos and I love them, could you make one about how the End Times should've been?
Ohh nice
So to summarize the End Times, 14 year olds shouldn't drink and write?
This deserves a remaster
always love these vids, keep it up
I have been laughing hysterically for a fucking hour.
Picturing Manfreds balls clipped to a car battery.
Fucking gold mate.
"Mm. nice one Malekith I approve." LOL
How bouta we just declare this uncannon and no one can do anything against it.
And how exactly almost everyone survived to age of shitmar? They just got bored of being dead?
I thought that Sigmar revived everyone when he somehow recreated the universe along with his magical space dragon buddy whose name I forgot.
@@seanallerdings8147 aurelion sol from league of legends
Settra does not surf
HE ROLLS
>asians and normal people
>calling jews normal
unsubbed
The man has a point.
the fact that you also considered Asians not normal made my day lol.
lughildana than fuck UK asians :p
MajorKill secretly redpilled.
@@majorkill man, u also forgot to mention "Australians and those who don't poop in their hands". LoL
I watching this cause vermintide 2. Holy shit i haven't even scratch the surface.
About the LM you forgot to mention that they lost none of the battles, exept the ones where they baited skaven jews with gold to group them up in the city, before a skink priest sent a comet on their head killing them all. Yeah... they actually won the war, the skavens were just desperated and attacked Hexoalt with their entire army, if it wasnt for the moon, their entire army would have been slay, since Skrolk had been killed by kroq gar leaving them without leadership.
Just a bit of a correctif :)
@@majorkill well They won almost all of their Battles, I cant remember a single clear defeat, they won the grand majority of the battles, they sustained extremely high casualties tough, but all those victories forced all the remaining skavens to do a hail mary play, in the final battle they were left without leadership and broken.
I cant remember a single templs city that was lost, exept the one where Tetto'eko sent a comet on it to kill the Skavens.
I may be wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went :)
www.lustria-online.com/threads/lizardmen-end-times-important-moments-spoilers.15646/
Here is where I read about it so if Im wrong Blame this guy and me a bit for not fact checking more, but its rough finding ET lore since everybody hate it 😂
Like I said in a previous comment, your channel got me into Warhammer but as far as I've learned (lore wise) the End Times seems about as enjoyable as getting shovel fucked with a rusty shovel.
Games Workshop really fucked off a good opportunity for something glorious with the clusterfuck that is the End Times.
It would have been cool to see mazdamundi or another LM Lord got to be an incarnate due to how OP they would be
Never liked a video so fast.
Not my Lizard Bois!! The End Times really did them dirty.
You really didn't need to go 35 minutes into this.
Here, I'll help you with a better summary:
"It's shit"
Mega AIDS
It’s shit and I love it
Ooo good one mr edgy pants
my boy ikit claw mvp. he soloed the moon lol
The Worst part is that that Mannfred killed Balthazar because apparently it was lileath's plan to let the world end because it was a cycle apparently.
Excellent vids, keep up the good work
I'm only superficially aware of the Warhammer lore through Total War but this End Times stuff sounds to be on the level of Game of Thrones Season 8.
oh god....
I'm not a fan of Elves from any fantasy setting, but damn I feel bad for Tyrion. He really got the shaft, quite literally too.
What happened to Greg? You know, Greg? That guy who was in that thing.
The video repeats at the end, idk if you noticed
MajorKill at min 29 it repeats mate
Thought I was experiencing deja vu when I heard it
Fuck GW. I started collecting Bretonians as my first army. Such a cool premise for an army I thought that wasn't your standard 'Empire' yet not too far fetched like skaven or vampires. Not once were they updated or given new miniatures while all the other factions got revamp after revamp. Kill them off 100% or give them as much attention as everyone else. I don't even collect Warhammer anymore but it still pisses me off how my bois got treated. Green Knight is a G. Won me sooo Manny battles.
So have you done a video on the gods of fantasy and 40k connections? Or the seperate realities connecting at all?
You go over the same lines twice at 28:30. Still, really great video dude loved all the visuals that were put in. I keep hearing the end time books were bad but the way you told the story in the IDGAF and straight-to-the-point way kept me really interested
So I see Fanatical finally sponsored you, good job.
Not all the Blood Dragons went to Khorne. Their creator, the greatest fucking warrior in the entire history of the world, Abhorash, never went to Chaos. And as the world goes to shit and ends, he's fighting back to back with his bro from way back Giles de Breton against Chaos. They go out like fucking MEN, and weren't ever beaten. The world just ended.
Hey we need to end a story anyone got anything for that. end the world? YES!