5 things I’ve learned about the 16” MacBook Pro | Mark Ellis Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Is the 16" MacBook Pro still worth buying in 2020? More importantly, with Apple's M1 chip now officially here, will you be wasting your money on something that's soon to be replaced?
In this video, I reveal 5 things I've learned about the 16" MacBook Pro and explain why, for some, it really is a good buy - still. But there are a few catches...
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:39 - Lesson 1: you're not alone
02:40 - Lesson 2: it's... big
04:17 - Lesson 3: let's talk about the fans
06:54 - Yeah, the keyboard...
08:20 - The expense
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Awesome video quality!! Also your camera presence is very down to earth!
Thank you, Jules. That's the aim - it's just me :)
I love my mbp 16.. i use for audio production but sometimes it gets hotter and drain battery little faster.. what macos you're in?? I'm thinking to updating to macos big sur but lots of people saying audio plugin and daw dont support yet.. let me know your opinion.. thanks for great video
The 16" MBP is a superb audio production machine - but you do have to concede that it'll get _very_ hot and noisy, fan-wise when you use it for that purpose. I'm on Big Sur, and have had no problems with Logic and third-party plugins so far, but that of course depends on what plugins you use and whether or not the developers have updated them for Big Sur. Always best to do a bit of research before upgrading to soon 👍
I’ve had my MacBook Pro 16 inch 💻
for 4 months now & love it! As a software developer (mainly Intel/PC) I’ve switched from my PC laptop to Mac without a hitch. Sure, the fan noice can be a bit bothersome- mainly because I worry about the harm it may be causing to the internals- otherwise I have no regrets on this purchase.
Glad to hear it, Steven.
Nice video and great inputs. Love from india. Came back to your channel as I knew u used the 16”. I need a mb now and will go for the 16” still. And yeah it gets really hot in some parts of India but inside should be fine with air conditioning.
Thanks for coming back, Ron! And you won't regret that decision. Lots of life left in these 16" machines yet!
Does The i9 variant heats up and fans on even on light works like web surfing, I’m a student btw. I don’t use this for heavy works, just for RUclips and homework. How’s the overall thermal in light works?
Hi, Yong - thanks for getting involved. The fans rarely, if ever, make an appearance during light work such as that you describe. Occasionally, I'll hear them, but this is usually if I'm using an app which is making poor use of resources (Spark email is a common culprit).
awesome! im just subs for the content...... and your voice.
Wow! Thank you! I'll repay you with lots more awesome content 😀
Will the Mac overheat or will the fans turn on if I use it on a couch just doing basic work like watching movies and sending emails? Or do I have to put it on a hard surface?
Nope, you’ll be fine (unless you use Chrome).
@@MarkEllisReviews lol, I have everything on safari and I prefer safari
In that case, you’ll stay nice and cool!
Excellent; thanks, Mark. Looks an awesome device. It's just a bit too much for me though so I've bought the M1 MB Pro. Interesting - and good - that you have heavy fan activity but no throttling issues. I would suspect that the 2021 16" MBP will have little fan activity with its M1X??? or M2[whatever]??? etc. SoC. We'll see :-)
Thanks, Stephen! The 16” spec I have is arguably a bit heavy duty for what I need, too, to be honest! I bet you’ll love the M1 MacBook Pro - that machine is the start of something big. And I suspect you’re right - the 16” will _surely_ not suffer from similar fan issues 🤞🏻
@@MarkEllisReviews Thanks, Mark. Can’t wait!! 😃
Indeed the fans do not affect performance. The opposite is the case: they spin up in order to avoid overheating and therefore keep the performance up - and they do that well. The issue with this device is that it gets too hot too soon and that the Radeon 5500 uses too much wattage when connected to an external monitor, which again gets the temperature to rise. So with some better design choices, the need for the fans to run so high could have been avoided and we‘d get awesome performance and a peacefully quiet laptop at the same time. Alas, now noise-cancelling headphones have to do their job ;)
Thanks, Manuel! And yeah, that's exactly why we buy noise cancelling headphones, right? But you make a good point; the fans are there for a reason. I can just see why it'd annoy some people, and it's another clear indication that Intel's (and AMD's?!) days are numbered on this platform.
I ordered my MBP 16 a month (before the M1 event) ago and it arrives in 4 days. I am yet to see what it's like on an external monitor but I am used to how hot they get having had the first-ever 15" MBP and then getting the 17" MBP. I couldn't wait for the M1 chip 16" as it's something I need now. That said, if worse comes to worst, I am hoping my new one should hold its value well enough to trade in against the 16" MBP as and when the time is right.
Oh I think it’ll definitely hold it’s value. It’s still a great investment.
Mark Ellis Reviews it won’t because prices already plumped you can get it for a little as 1000 bucks now. I got rid of mine for a decent price but still lost more than 50% of value since these M1 come out
People can’t justify why would you get a 16 inch that has a PS4 fan and a lot of heat when u can get a cheaper more batter almost matching performance for the fraction of the cost. eBay is flooded with MacBook 16
@@t2smoothy a 13inch screen is redundant for what I need and I’m not prepared to wait another half a year for something that is probably going to cost twice as much.
Biscuit Crunch get an external monitor lool, no matter how you think about it it will be cheaper to the same price line. But just an advice from someone who had the 16 and sold it.
I bought a brand new 2019 15' early this year for just $1,799 on Best Buy (since the 16' had just released). The 15' was a good deal at the time, even though I would have preferred the "newer" 16' due to the scissor keyboard. Fast forward almost a year later, I wish I didn't make the purchase at all (15 nor 16'). I love the big screen, but I could be satisfied with my 2018 MBA. I should have kept that $1,799 in the bank. Now with the M1 chip macs, I will find it harder to sell my year old 15' without taking a disgraceful loss.
Hi Kay, thanks for getting involved. I’m not sure I agree with you - Macs retain their value brilliantly, so while you’ll obviously experience a loss, it might not be as big as you think. Intel Macs still have a big role to play. Keep an eye on my channel - lots more content on the way on this front 👍
I wanted to buy a new macbook and there were leaks about a new macbook pro 16 and it didn’t come out now i have to wait about a year😔. Great video!
Thank you, Fahad! Depends if you need the machine for work, etc, but waiting probably is your best bet at the moment... if you can.
I’d tend to agree with that...
@@MarkEllisReviews That would be great. It’s going to be a powerful machine
I just want this for the bigger display😬
That’s as good a reason as any at the moment!
Yup, that's the only reason I bought the 15' last year. I'm not so worried about all the fluff inside.
what specs did you get?
I went pretty top spec (bar the RAM and storage). I talk more about the exact specs in this video: ruclips.net/video/CQA82LGjd-s/видео.html. Thanks for tuning in!
Love from India🥰.
I am buying the MBP 16" this month. Sure M1 is great but a lot of brilliant content was created before M1 existed. Also its going to be my main laptop so because i rely on multiple softwares, I won't be buying version 1 of this.
It's also not the best apple silicon laptop because they will progress and eventually release even better chips just the way they have progressed to iPhone 12 today. I don't know why is everyone acting like M1 is the last best performance laptop apple will create.
Thanks for getting involved, Aditya! I think in time, Apple silicon is going to be groundbreaking across the board, but it is very early days, as you point out. The 16" MacBook remains a brilliant machine, and you won't regret your purchase - trust me.
@@MarkEllisReviews i did...gets too hot for laptop use just from web browsing. Got a big screen because I do design work but other than speakers rhe m1 is way more powerful in every way. Will likely switch
Not impressed with their new M1 offerings and it’s the reason why I opted to just get the current 16”.
I think in a half year we will get the new 16" MacBooks and that will be just impressive. Even the new m1 Macs are in my opinion very good but for my final opinion I will wait for the Reviews.
Stay tuned to this channel, in that case!
How could you not be impressed. The Air is rivalling iMacs
Still early days for many people I think, and the lack of ports is troubling for some.
I doubt that there will be a M1 16”. Maybe a M2 16” when they figured out how have more than two thunderbolt ports. In my opinion it’s one of the biggest downsides of the M1 right now. Even Apple probably won’t sell their most ‘pro’ Laptop with only two thunderbolt ports.
I think you’re bang on there. Whatever it’s called, the next step up will have to support more than two ports.
That was probably done intentionally to phase peolle in and give them more of a reason to upgrade to the m2 (or m1X as some call it) if they already have the m1. The hardware is identical to the 2019 intel model which has a 4 port option so there's literwlly no reason other than money not to have included it here. Honestly debating between an upgraded m1 and an upgraded intel 13 with 4 ports
Idk I've only had the 16' for a couple days and even just web browsing it get got too hot for lap use. Almost want to switch to the 13. Really only wanted this for the screen size for design work
That’s odd, Max. It only gets hot under serious load for me. Are you in a hot country? Do you use Chrome?
@@MarkEllisReviews I've read this is fairly common actually. Its not overly hot that I'm worried about the computer buts to hot for casual use
I primarily use Chrome but I tried safari yesterday and it made no difference. seems slightly better today but requires more testing. why should that make a difference though? I understand safari is native/ better optimized for apple but I used chrome on both my 2012 and 2017 MacBook Pro with no issue. and my gf used it on the 2014 MacBook pro, the 2019 intel model and the m1, again with no problem. so what is it about the 16' specifically that can't handle chrome?
Did not heat up when connected to my TV weirdly enough but maybe I just didn't let is run too long. I have an old monitor thag still used VGA so I'm going to test that later
@@MarkEllisReviews update:
I've connected it to an external monitor and heat/ fan wise it's fine. probably because it's a small and really old model that still uses VGA. however, I do notice about every 5 seconds or so the cursor stutters. are you aware of this problem or any fixes? this one happened when connected to another display. maybe it's because I'm using 2 adapters? I have a usb c hub connected to the laptop and that is connected to an hdmi to vga cable, which is then plugged in directly to the monitor. again this never happened on older models, I tried replacing the usb c hub with a type c to hdmi adapter and while that helps (it now occurs every 10 or so seconds instead of 5) it doesn't solve the problem.
@@maxisenberg9093 That's odd, Max, and not something I've personally experienced. But, then, I don't have that same setup, so it'd be tricky to replicate. Maybe someone else could chime in on this. However, whenever I've experienced anything undesirable with Apple gear, I've always gone straight back to Apple and they've been faultless in helping - I'd always make it my first port of call before going too far down the rabbit hole yourself.
@@MarkEllisReviews have you ever noticed yours gets warm (not hot) just from safari browsing?
I also just tested dolphin emulation (paper Mario 2) and it immediately got hot and started the fans. my 2017 Mac ran warm pretty fast but generally took 20-30 min before getting noticeably hot or low depending on what I was doing in game. kills my battery too. went from 100-74 in maybe 15 min?
Only big screen Mac laptop
I've learned it burns my legs every time I work from bed
Yes. That’s a problem. Oddly satisfying to begin with. Then terrifying.
I use macs fan control on mine. No more burning legs.
It's not a laptop. It's made of aluminum. It is a desktop replacement computer. It is a class of It's own in terms of a notebook. It should sit on a desk or some elegant elevated stand. If you want a laptop, spend 100 to 799 for one. Or use an iPad air. LOL
@@VIsTheMusic Hello again. But it _is_ actually a laptop... isn't it? I wasn't aware Apple invented a new product category when they launched the 16" MBP (I'm not convinced they were aware, either). And what impact does the material from which it's made have on the definition?
I'd love to spend £100 on a laptop that would enable me to edit my videos, produce music and run my entire business. What do you recommend? Genuine question.
Get a bed stand, you’ll fuck up your posture a lot less and not get burned.
Im from Malaysia, tropical country. I can't even edit on 16inch without having a big fan beside this laptop. its hot and uncomfortable and it makes my palm sweat. But overall I love this laptop so much!
If its so big and you knew it would be, why did you get it? It isn't a light portable consumer gadget.
I fell off my seat when you dare to compare it with an iPad pro LOL, as if they are the same category. I'm so confused why you buy what you buy now. What is it all for really then? "You can see the size difference!" LoL Math is ummm, strong with this one. 16" NoteBook computer VS 12.5" tablet. Seriously ?!
I used to carry around the first generation 2016, 17" MBP, I still have that backpack, now for my 16" MBP, I can fit 3 of them and it feels comfortable. HMMMMM, COULD be my back muscles strengthened over the years!? Facts.
It is a pro user computer which replaces a desktop. Sell it then and get the new Air if you want portability. You cannot have both with Apple. The 16" MBP is their best yet. No compromises. LoL
Genuinely love how passionate some people get about laptops. I bought this one because I wanted a very powerful Mac which I could use on my lap on the sofa and in the myriad of other places in which I need to get relatively complex work done.
Sorry you fell off your seat - my intention is to inform, not to harm. But the iPad comparison is purely based on weight alone, and there are people out there who have successfully gone iPad only for some pretty serious content work, so it definitely demands further exploration, in my book. And I agree - for many people, it'll replace their desktop computer, but that isn't it's raison d'etre - it _is_ a laptop, and it genuinely has a problem when it comes to those fans and heat generation.
I'm actually getting a new M1 Air this week for this very reason, so stay tuned for my thoughts on that.
Oh, and forgive me... there's no such thing as a 2016 17" MBP is there? Or did I miss that one?
Thank you for engaging with the channel, though - genuinely means the world.