Why I purchased the 16" MacBook Pro before M1 is released
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2020
- Update (12/2/2020) regarding Apple Silcon M1 Macs:
For the folks who are insisting that I regret my purchase, here are lists of audio software and hardware companies who have issued statements that their product currently do not support Big Sur and/or non-Intel Macs (yet). Which thereby includes M1 (Apple Silicon) Macs. The issues can range from “seems to work” but “not yet thoroughly tested” all the way to complete software/hardware incompatibility.
Some folks think Rosetta 2 is the end all be all answer, but it does not take into account driver compatibility for soundcards, MIDI devices, and other hardware commonly used with these audio software applications. This is a shot list of just some of the relevant ones (as of 12/2/2020) I found common for DJ and audio production. However, it is not a complete list of all audio related companies.
I left a link below to the larger list published and updated by Sweetwater (see pinned comment). But as of right now, many of these companies are in a status of “actively testing” Big Sur with their products and have warned users not to update.
Software companies that have issued “do not update to Big Sur” warnings:
Pioneer DJ (Rekordbox)
Serato (Serato DJ)
Atomix (Virtual DJ)
Engine DJ (Engine Prime)
M-Audio
Native Instruments (Traktor and all NI software/plugins)
Ableton (Ableton Live)
Steinberg (Cubase)
Avid (Pro Tools and all Avid software/plugins)
Audio hardware companies that have issued “do not update to Big Sur” warnings:
Pioneer DJ
Toraiz
Rane
Numark
Denon
Alesis
M-Audio
Native Instruments
Roland
Boss
Universal Audio
Korg
List of Big Sur compatibility by manufacturer published and updated by Sweetwater:
SEE PINNED COMMENT FOR LINK
List of SOME compatible products. Note that software compatibility does not guarantee hardware compatibility:
Apple Logic Pro
Presonus (Studio One)
Algoriddim (djay Pro 2 and djay Pro AI)
*****original description******
Just got my new laptop. I know the ARM-based processor Macs are coming, but here is why I decided to get an Intel-based 16" MacBook Pro.
MacBook Pro Specs:
- 2019 MacBook Pro (graphics card released June, 2020)
- 16-inch Space Gray
- 2.3GHz 8-core 9th-generation Intel Core i9 processor, Turbo boost 4.8GHz
- 32GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory
- AMD Radeon Pro 5600M with 8GB of HBM2 memory (released June, 2020)
- 2TB SSD Storage
Product links below. 
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Update (2/9/2021)
With the current state of Big Sur and the M1 Macs, I sustain that I am glad to have purchased this Mac when I did. Anyone who buys this model today will be stuck on Big Sur. And as many know, driver compatibility issues are widespread among audio gear, especially DJ gear. I don't plan on upgrading machine for another year to allow all the app and hardware developers to catch up. Everything is happening as predicted.
Update (12/2/2020) regarding Apple Silcon M1 Macs:
For the folks who are insisting that I regret my purchase, here are lists of audio software and hardware companies who have issued statements that their product currently do not support Big Sur and/or non-Intel Macs (yet). Which thereby includes M1 (Apple Silicon) Macs. The issues can range from “seems to work” but “not yet thoroughly tested” all the way to complete software/hardware incompatibility.
Some folks think Rosetta 2 is the end all be all answer, but it does not take into account driver compatibility for soundcards, MIDI devices, and other hardware commonly used with these audio software applications. This is a shot list of just some of the relevant ones (as of 12/2/2020) I found common for DJ and audio production. However, it is not a complete list of all audio related companies.
I left a link below to the larger list published and updated by Sweetwater. But as of right now, many of these companies are in a status of “actively testing” Big Sur with their products and have warned users not to update.
Software companies that have issued “do not update to Big Sur” warnings:
Pioneer DJ (Rekordbox)
Serato (Serato DJ)
Atomix (Virtual DJ)
Engine DJ (Engine Prime)
M-Audio
Native Instruments (Traktor and all NI software/plugins)
Ableton (Ableton Live)
Steinberg (Cubase)
Avid (Pro Tools and all Avid software/plugins)
Audio hardware companies that have issued “do not update to Big Sur” warnings:
Pioneer DJ
Toraiz
Rane
Numark
Denon
Alesis
M-Audio
Native Instruments
Roland
Boss
Universal Audio
Korg
List of Big Sur compatibility by manufacturer published and updated by Sweetwater:
www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/macos-11-big-sur-compatibility-guide/#macOS-11-Big-Sur-Compatibility-List
List of SOME compatible products. Note that software compatibility does NOT guarantee hardware compatibility:
Apple Logic Pro
Presonus (Studio One)
Algoriddim (djay Pro 2 and djay Pro AI)
Product Links:
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Hi welcome to Apple care.
My MacBook is acting up.
Is it our new ARM MacBook?
No, it’s the previous model, intel that is.
Oh well we’ll transfer you to the previous model line.
No, it’s ARM.
Well, how can we help you? How do you like your virtual coffee??
this dude is coping lmao
@@deesplayworldtv actually, my previous computer was an Apple Care upgrade to a Late 2013 model that was a retina display from a first generation 2011 model.
@@JeremyKang8 it's January 2022. This has been the least problematic computer I have ever owned for video editing.
@@priyonjoni🙂
“I always keep the box incase I sell the unit...which I never do” lol my life
As a lifelong Apple user who remembers the shift from the G4 and G5 chips to Intel, I can verify that you are definitely right about the maturity period. It will be at least 3 years before 90% of the software devs have moved everything over to work natively on Apple's ARM chips.
If some calculator doesn't run natively on the new chip, it doesn't really matter.
thats exactly why i think apple silicon is good to dive into straight away because mistakes are made to be learnt from. g4/5 to intel was in 2006 brother
I still have bootcamp if macos dies
Yo man I've been thinking about WHY I should get the 16" now, and you answered my questions.
And you're entertaining even though there's no BGM, and you don't try hard and be over informative.
Subbed! Great work!
Really appreciate it and hoped it helped. I’ll have a full review in a month or two.
@@priyonjoni looking forward to that, cheers !
I mean, are you surprised he bought a macbook anyways? He is unboxing it while dressed like Steve Jobs
Andrés Legorreta but Steve Jobs wore pants.
@@priyonjoni 🙊... Call me 😉
Lmao
Andrés Legorreta get a room!
@@yourremarkablyaveragepal781 Don't worry, I'm sure we can make a gap big enough for you to fit your nose in so you can keep this wonderful streak going.
I bought the exact one you have in the video. Now I’m excited.
This video is exactly what I needed. Thanks for the content 🏆
Last time they switched from power pc, it was like 5 years before apple stopped supporting those. If you can wait two years for a new computer, wait but if you are in need of a new computer, I have this computer and I like it. Very powerful.
Congratsulations on your new MacBook Pro. I was wondering if you could please show us how the Fans behave when using it to run Ableton Live or Logic Pro X with a substantial number (150- 180) of Audio Plug-ins like Waves,Auto Tune, Valhalla etc. with and without external monitors . I want to upgrade my 2012 i7 quad MBP but many reports of loud fan noise and heat especially when connected to external monitors are putting me off. I went to Apple store to try it out for myself but they do not have the 8 core model out on display for us to test.
Almost all videos the 16-Inch MacBook Pro on youtube are either a lousy track count test or one where the emphasis is on Sample Library Plug-ins like Kontakt or VST Synths Like Serum and diva .
I can't find anything that shows the power it has utilising third party Effects Plug-ins for Mixing alongside logics own Plug-ins and when i do , it's on the i7 model :/ .
Thank you in advance and have a good weekend .
Yes please tell us how the fans do
Yeah, I’m on the fence too about buying a new MBP. I also use Serato and want to get into final cut. Still using a mid 2012 MacBook Air for Serato DJ pro. What USB c adaptor did you get? A dock?
Makes sense. It's like how the PPC to Intel transition we still used PPC for around 5 years in Photography & Video production.
The difference being that this time an Apple Silicon CPU will run emulated x86 code faster than the Intel CPU could. This transition is beneficial from day 1.
@@WouterStudioHD Eh I'll believe it when we actually see it. I find it difficult to believe all code will run better, as a developer and network engineer I am always skeptical when companies have blanket statements like this.
TCC Apple didn’t say that, it’s from people that have the SDK Mac Mini.
@@tcc5750 As an audio programmer with friends that have access to the DTK, I can say that it is true. Considering the fact that the CPU is made with half the transistor size, it's not that difficult to believe.
All audio unit plugins were translated and running without a problem. Often performance was comparable with Intel CPU's. This is with the A12X, not the A14 or above that will be in the actual production units.
Wouter agreed this will be different... because apple is making both hardware and software. Plus this has been happening for years not just a 2 or even 5 year decision.
Thank you! I have been searching for a laptop for both photography and djing :)) Great video!
No problem! Glad to help!
I thank you for how you explain your purchase ! Great video
I am glad yours worked, I just purchased the 16" MacBook Pro, got it and it would not take a charge. Tried to reset the SMC but that did nothing. Sending it back tomorrow.
I'm going to say because it is an outstanding notebook. Seriously, it is an amazing workstation notebook,
Until the copper starts wearing out after a year
@@angelomoncion the copper heat sink? asking cuz in looking to buy my first ever macbook soon
How bad is the fan noise & coil whine? I do music production & am considering making the investment but have heard some horror stories
Can it handle 4K timeline smoothly without proxies at 4:2:2 120fps 10 bit? Like A7SIII data?
I’ll do the same, but I’m waiting for the probable 10th gen refresh with some of those security improvements and maybe WiFi 6 or other tweaks.
Same here, I hope Apple refreshes the 16" macbook pro in November.
He’s right about compatibility. It’s always recommended to be 1 year behind the next line up. I use a lot of productions software and I’ve experience issues with the newest MacOS I had to keep it on Mojave which I really like. So imagine with the next 2021 it’ll take companies a while to make apps compatible.
So grateful you posted this I'm trying to decide if I should get a base model or upgrade it like your I'm editing videos for RUclips and tiktok and editing photos on Photoshop and light room
Dood are you getting a macbook or a imac, i have seen your comments in every video for apple products 😂
@@serafinrazo4097 lmao 😅 really appreciate you noticing I'm getting an iMac I'm still trying to decide my spec I was set on a MacBook but then the iMac came out and better suited my needs
Louis Luzuka yeah same I haven’t decided my spec yet i keep changing my mind
Great video!
Glad you went ahead with this Purchase and I totally agree with you on the whole Intel/ARM MacBook. It’s understood that it might take at least 2-3 Years for all the Developers and Legacy Apps to Switch over and Optimise theirs Apps to ARM Architecture. Also Apple announced during their Keynote that they will support Intel MacBook for many Years to come, there is no Doubt about that for sure.
I received a week ago. The speakers are amazing.
Do you guys think for a student it's smarter to wait for the arm? I don't need complicated software. I just need a digital notebook with as much battery life as possible. That's why the arm is so appealing to me. Or should I wait a few years more for Arm?
Dear Sir,
Are you from Singapore or USA?
How much price in USA ? 32 GB Intel version
Nice , a new tech RUclipsr. Good luck on your journey!
Totally agree with your thinking on this. There are companies have yet to make themselves compatible with Catalina even almost a year after release.
Many apps will never have a 64 bit version. May have to buy new software. That is the big reason I haven't put Catalina in my iMac. When I transferred my data from my old macbook to the new one it killed off quite a few apps. It may even be a problem for old printers and scanners that have 32 bit drivers. I wish Apple would have waited for OS 11 to kill off 32 Bit. That would have been a nice clean line with the ARM Macs
10:22 that pause was a chef’s kiss lol
Hi, enjoyed the article, will you be providing an update 2 months later? I know this laptop got good reviews, how did it go with your work? Were your expectations met? What bothered you the most?
Yes I will. Just been busy with a product launch for Pioneer DJ.
Just bought one last night and was looking up videos to see if I was crazy or not. My old macbook was a 13" 2011 so I badly need a new one
Same here man. I had a 13in MacBook Pro from 2011 I got a 13 macbook pro 2020 with intel 10th, 16 gbs of RAM, and 1 ton storage. It will last me as long as I need it. I just hope apple fully supports intel chips for years and years to come.
Thanks for this I just got mine last week. I’m a developer and I don’t want any issues just starting out. Can always reevaluate next year
What is the weight of the UAG cover?
Outstanding and well balanced review and especially with you being a music producer, thank you so much for not adding a 'background' music track to your narrative. Your voice is pleasant and would be spoiled by unnecesary distractions. You are definitely not an Apple fanboy, but a critical, articulate and seemingly unbiased computer enthusiast. I am also heavily invested in the Windows software system (MS Access, Quicken for Windows, Articulate Studio, etc.) and currently considering a switch from Windoes (Lenovo) to the MacBook Pro 16. What is your experience with running Windows on your previous Macs, especially using Parallels? I would also be interested in your experience with heat production and fan noise. Thank you.
Teafanatics thanks so much. I’ve used boot camp. The thing you will notice is that the MacBook does run hotter. If your budget allows, I would recommend having a separate dedicated laptop or desktop for windows. I’m planning on building one myself to run the new Star Wars game coming out.
@@priyonjoni Thank you for your reply. Yes, the heat issue. I have heard about this before and it continues to worry me somewhat. Given that I would be spending around A$9,000 on this machine, I would like this to be my only device. Also, I am relying on having a Windows application (e.g. Quicken for Windows) open at the same time as Excel for Mac, so Bootcamp is not an option for me. There is a Thinkpad P1, P15 and P17 coming out shortly, some with 600 nits screen options. If the speakers are tolerable, I might just have to stick with Microsoft rather than the Tim Apple MacBook. And the spill resistant Lenovo keypads are also such a reassuring luxury with me always having a cup of green tea on my desk. Thanks again.
I think for me its not so much the idea of new ARM MacBooks, more that I think a new Intel 10th gen 16 inch might actually be quite close
Hi, I love your videos and the way you explain is so simple yet in details. I have got a question, I got my MBP 16” last week. Specs: i9 8 core 8GB 5500 Radeon Pro Graphics 1 TB STORAGE 16GB RAM. Whenever I run photoshop the screen goes black for 2 seconds then goes back to normal. Spoke to Apple and tried all the resets and installed a new copy iOS still didn’t solve the issue. I was advised to erase the Mac which I did and now I have a small circle with slash 🚫 every time I boot the device. It doesn’t go beyond this point. Had a really bad experience with this new mpb. This was my first purchase after 2011. So scared and confused whether I should get a replacement or get a refund.
Dark AV3 the blacking out of the screen is the GPU switching from integrated graphics to the dedicated graphics card. My old machine used to do that with my Nvidia card. It shouldn’t do that, but on some OSX versions it does. It doesn’t hurt your machine if you can ignore it. It may go away later on an update.
Temporary solution: go to System Preferences > Energy Saver > Power Adapter. Uncheck “Automatic graphics switching”. That will default your Radeon graphics card the whole time. However, you will notice a little more spool up of the fans and lose a little battery life. But it should stop the momentary black out.
Also, make sure to report the issue to Apple, including the temporary solution. I’ve had my 2013 MacBook Pro checked by Apple 3 times without them figuring out it was the dedicated GPU switching causing it.
Why don't you wait for the 10th gen refresh ?
Looking to buy base model 16 inch just for music production (Studio One). Any thoughts or opinions. I am on a budget. The base model 16 inch is as high as I can go.
The base model has really good specs i see nothing wrong with that. The storage is small though. You could use an external hard drive so that wouldn't be a big problem mostly an inconvenience
You recommend the 16 for programming and university (engineering)? Or the 13?
Ill personally go with 16.
Just jumped to this from a late 2014!
PJ any chance you can make a video on showing how to move your Serato from one of your other laptops to this one. Thank you advance Sir.
I don't have to move anything. I use an external drive. I simply plug the same hard drive to this laptop and the same crates show up. This is why I prefer external.
This vid is so valid. I bought a new MacBook Pro for the exact same reason minus the music production lol.
I agree with you. I just bought my 16 inch MBP like 2 months ago. I heavily use it for music. ARM will be great one day but my software compatibility will be safe on the 16 inch for years.
Apple Silicon is going to run x86 code faster than an Intel CPU. Compatibility won’t be an issue because of Rosetta.
Facts. Im getting mine before the ARMS come out.
Wouter “for a period of time”
Wouter “for a period of time”
Ri2nonerok What for a period of time?
Same. I scored a used 15” 2019 i9
Has already changed my work flow by a million compared to my 2011 16” i7
Please help me which one should I go for intel 16 inch or arm 16 inch for music production. From India thank you.
Any 16" inch Intel 2020 MacBook Pro will serve you for years to come. Higher core i9 can handle about 90 VST's which is enough for most music production.
Upcoming Arm is better in specs and price, but the problem is always take sometime for developer to apdate their application. Some of them also wanted you to buy new Application.
These probably last MacBook Pro and iMac are good buy.
You mentioned the extra internal storage for your sound libraries like Kontakt.
I'm also looking to upgrade to a 16' Macbook Pro. In my current computer, I have my Kontakt 12 Ultimate CE loaded in an external SSD drive(it's almost 1TB).
I was wondering if it would be a better option to get more internal storage to store my Kontakt library internally in my new Macbook Pro rather than load it from the external drive...thoughts on this?
Thanks for the video!!!
If you can afford it, I would do it. It loads faster from the internal.
@@priyonjoni I asked because I heard from other videos than there might be more efficient to run the sound libraries from external drives because otherwise the computer would have to run both the software and the libraries from the same internal drive(bottleneck issue). Is that correct?
@@priyonjoni another question would be is you think that 64GB or RAM is overkill for music production. I kind of think that 32GB would be enough but at the same time I'd like to 'future proof' my purchase...
Thank you very much in advance for your kind help and your videos. Keep up the good work!!
The answer depends on how heavy the plugins you use.
Your recommend the 13” mbp ? 😩
Thank you so much for this video
No problem!
Hi,
I hope you’ll be able to answer my question.
First, thank you for this video, it was very informative yet not boring! 😊
I’m thinking of buying my very first MacBook, but I’m not quite sure if I should buy this one or wait.
I want to buy the MacBook Pro 16” 2020 and upgrade the 512gb to 1TB storage.
On the new laptop I’d want to study for school, but also go live on RUclips and one other app.
Is it wise to buy this one or should I wait *IF* there’s going to be a “better” one?
Thank you.
That doesn’t seem like a huge workload. Totally up to you. The 16 inch might even be overkill unless you’re doing something resource intensive like graphic or video work.
@@priyonjoni thank you so much for the answer! 😊
I bought the MacBook Pro 16 right after watched the WWDC 2020. It is a good timing to buy a 16 macbook pro because after 5-6 years, the new ARM chip Macbook can be stable, and then that's the time to buy a ARM version Macbook for sure
Lol no it won’t take that long dude....
@@wbae1340 Yeah, it will merge as claimed "2 years", but you know, even with the current Intel Chip, some software still really buggy and not really optimized. Adobe just got better a few years ago, so I assume Adobe will need another "few years" to be compatible with new ARM chip mac computers. You know I feel a company big as Adobe shouldn't always let their users run their product under an "Emulator". Lol...
Shuhao Shang if it’s not problem free from launch it will only take a year or two at most to fix bugs, it still doesn’t make sense to buy a intel now because if you just waited till arm release, they would drop in price...
@@wbae1340 Yeah, I didn't think about the price, but hey, it's Apple, I haven't seen they drop a significant amount before, even their refurbished macs just cheaper a little...that's the reason I bought the 16 now because I got it with an insider price... Lol...
Shuhao Shang an insider price does make sense and ya it was smart to get the 16
How big is your TV?
Mine will be here tomorrow! :D
now i see you are an audio guy, it makes sense - most nervous high tech sub culture out there.
not sure why audio software companies are so slow, they aren’t adobe after all.
Is there any news of ARM MacBooks being able to run bootcamp? I’m majoring in Engineering and would need some windows exclusive programs but at the same time would love to have the new ARM MacBooks.
Andrew Elia that will not be possible. Intel Macs were able to run Windows because of the Intel architecture.
You are probably looking at virtualization. That said, Apple will likely update the 16 inch with another Intel chipset before the ARM transition on this specific model.
a question here: when you touch the touchpad with your thumbs while typing, does the cursor moves accidently?
I thought it would, but the laptop knows when it’s just your palms
@@priyonjoni thx
I need the intel powered macbook because some people dont just run apple apps. You might need to run a 2nd operating system. What if you have to do OS virtualization to test software or do system penetration? I think its a great move on apple side. But the process to get there will take a couple years to have everything up and running.
beautiful, piece of art
You mentioned Adobe Premier. Not using DaVinci Resolve 16 yet?
I don’t plan it.
The same MacBook configuration would cost me over 5000€ (~ $6000). $4500 sounds like an absolute steal for such a beast. Hope it serves you well!
Guys I need your help... I learning animation and graphics designer rn in college... I went to Best Buy and spent 2500$ on the 16 inch MacBook Pro.. but when I think about it I can just get the 13 inch with i5 and get my money back... so this is what I am thinking since my major has subject about drawing, editing math and stuff so I was thinking about gettin 13 inch and buy iPad pro or any other iPad...so I can take notes faster and also draw better..
I have the 2020 13 inch mbp, it’s fine for school. The 16 is just better for thermal. My mbp heats up only if I didn’t shut it down after using the whole day. Or playing league of legends
What if silicon Mac are just the lower end ones? cause Apple said they were still keeping Intel ones around for a bit no?
The Apple chip already performs at the level of the 16" Macbook pro
Its highly unlikely that they will stay with Intel. They chips are cheaper and better
I am looking for a Mac book pro like that for djing with how much are those and do you like your new Mac book pro?
I don't plan on using this for gigs. The specs are overkill. I use a 2016 MacBook Air for gigs.
Pri yon Joni ok thank you very much
I'm also looking to upgrade from a 2013 15-inch Retina, and I use Windows on my mac (mostly for games and work-related programs) so I think that the latest intel 16-inch is the way to go. The big question for me is, 5500M 8GB or 5600M 8GB. Idk if the extra $600 are worth it (after doing some research I think it's not but I'm not sure).
I mostly play Call of Duty MW/Warzone, Rocket League and League of Legends. If I can run Call of Duty at 1080p (medium-high settings) at a stable 60fps I'd be more than happy (anything over 60fps is lost because I won't be using an external monitor). Rocket League and LoL run on basically anything at max-settings so they won't be a problem at all.
Even Linus Tech Tips (a mostly PC media group) reviewed the new Macbook Pro 16 incredibly well. Definitely seems to be a beast of a content creation and professional laptop. I simply do not have the money to buy one so I continue to work well on PCs, but I understand how great some of the Mac OS software is in certain field and how well optimized a lot of it is for those computers. Great machine! However, if you are looking for something similar to Macbook Pro 16, definitely take a look at the Acer ConceptD 7 Ezel or the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo. Both are pricey as well but I love the form factor and both seem incredibly well built.
Great Point!-Thanks.
I’m not a computer guru but I am getting mine in about 5 days can’t wait .. I had no clue they were coming out with some new fangled whatchamygig but I can’t wait another 4 months I’ve been waiting for years to get this one and it’s just going to be used for music production and some video editing ... can’t wait to get it and I sure as hell cant wait another 4 months of non productivity while waiting on it and I went with the i9 an 32 gigs of ram
I purchased the 2020 13" pro because I needed it for film school asap
I like this channel. Hes not a barker or fast forward talker.
Trackpad has palm rejection.
Music software takes ages to update to a new platform
I just purchased a 16. I expect the ARM MBPs to be awesome, but not immediately, and I am skeptical that we will see an ARM chip capable of replacing the 16's CPU/GPU set within 2 years, and (like yourself) I don't expect to see widespread (reliable) software support for an additional period. Further, I don't expect the first generation ARM MBPs to be as reliable as subsequent versions as massive jumps often correlate with growing pains, quirks, and sometimes reliability/longevity issues. Now is a great time to buy the 16-inch. It has several flaws, but it's a great system overall.
Do you think Apple will update this 16 inch to i9 10th gen before going to ARM chips?
Unlikely. That would require essentially a whole new motherboard spec, not worth the time/resources.
When is Apple Silicon releasing?
November 17 is the rumour right now
Why exactly did you get the 5600M graphics?
Several youtubers did benchmark tests and it scored significantly higher than the 5500.
@@priyonjoni Agreed, i saw those too lol. I was just wondering what your usage on the macbook is that you would decide to make the expensive upgrade. Thanks for the response!
Video editing. I do a lot of pre-rendering multiple camera angles. Pre-rendering makes editing easier when filters and audio processing is already done and flattened into the individual clips.
Pri yon Joni got you, thanks!
Would the macbook pro 16 inch not be cheaper, when the new macbooks come out?
Apple doesn’t carry discontinued products and you cannot purchase custom options at other retailers. They only care standard options.
I’m in a pretty interesting situation with this who transition. It’s very common in my career as a software engineer that the company I work for provides the computer. And I have a mid-2015 MBP that still works pretty well so buying into a new Apple Silicon Mac wouldn’t be much of a risk other than maybe not being able to run some side projects. But since I’m going to start learning IOS development, making the early switch would actually give me an advantage as a mobile developer. I look forward to what the new macs are going to be like and what new hardware features they may have. Here’s to hoping for FaceID and LTE coming to the Mac.
Maybe. But keep in mind that most big tech companies (Facebook, Lyft, Uber, AirBnB etc) all use Flutter or React Native for their mobile apps, not Swift. So at that point it's less important to get an ARM computer.
TheJulianmc this only partially true. Many of these companies still have the need for native built components. My company for example uses React Native but there are quite a bit of Native modules built in Swift and Kotlin. So the decision to learn Swift isn’t necessarily to only build native apps, it’s more to have an edge as a multi platform developer in general.
@@pinkdiscomosh2766 Yeah that makes sense.
@@pinkdiscomosh2766 you can always make use of VMs and apple's new mac mini with the iPad processor in order to get ahead of the curve.
Mine will be here today.
Hurrah ! I’ve waiting for any musicians review on MBP
Also, I do agree with him that if you are going to get the Macbook Pro 16 this is a great time. Apple, IMO, will continue to support .x86 chips from Intel for at least 2 years in terms of making new Intel-based Macs, and an additional 2 years from a purely support perspective. A lot of this depends on how fast Apple can develop the power and speeds to bring Arm and their T chips to a point where they can replace professional machines like the Macbook Pro, iMac Pro, and Mac Pro. We are more likely to see them come out with Arm-Apple-based silicon for Macbook Air, Mac Mini, and iMac before any of their more expensive hardware...and frankly that is the market that matters most for them because it is the higher-volume market.
*Thanks for your unboxing of the MBP 16 " 2020. I just ordered mine yesterday and I can hardly wait to receive my dream lappy for video editing on Avid Media Composer & Final Cut X. I have a few suggestions for your presentation style - 1. Please put your commercial endorsements at the end of your videos instead of the front. Folks want you to get straight to your content without otherwise being distracted by commercial endorsements. 2. Don't make your commercial endorsements so long, please. P.S. You are wise to buy now, while Apple Computer is at the height of Intel Quality and Compatibility. Once Apple switches over to their new ARM Archetecture, end users will be nothing more than glorified Beta Testers for the new system. I agree with other posters on this thread there will be a not rapid adoption period after the roll out of the new archetecture, and no one (Including Apple) can predict how smoothly the new technology introduction will be (??) I use my MACs for mission critical business as an independent film maker, and I have neither the time, or the patience to screw around with possibly unstable, buggy hardware and software.*
Where the integrated ads are located and their length are often part of the deal, not up to the creator necessarily.
I just did the same thing a week ago. Need to get work done now
Do you plan to sell it?
Great video. Abandoning intel is still going to be a hard transition for them. It was easy with PPC because PPC was almost proprietary to Apple at the time. Intel is not. It's near universal. Apple Silicon may work for the less powerful line and entry level, but phasing out the i7/i9 is going to be difficult.
Side note: If you worried about screen wobble, that case may make it worse over time. Physics is going to weaken the hinges at a faster rate. Don't rule out the power of a skin and nice sleeve case for when you need to work on the go.
the uag case is like impossible to get off I'm pretty sure people have cracked their displays trying to take it off
The older cases for the previous Macbooks were difficult. This one for the 16 inch is a piece of cake. I can easily remove it anytime.
I just made the purchase for MacBook Pro 16 last week. It’s coming this Friday. I had the mid 2014 retina MacBook Pro which gave me a good 5 years. Hoping this will do the same. I feel a little better I’m not the only one who made the purchase lol. 😅 I got it fully specked out with only 1tb ssd since I use a lot of external drives.
I'm in exactly the same position as you (also mid-2014 retina MBP, 13"), but I haven't bought the MBP16 yet. Also want to upgrade it to 1TB SSD. Let me know how different it is!
Who are you taking to?
Nice video! I plan on getting a mbp 16inch for music production and i'd like to know if 16GB of Ram and 512GB will do the job
The ram is more than enough
@@priyonjoni okay thanks, the storage is okay right?
@@MrZiicOo the more the better. It's hard to answer that question because it depends on how big of sound libraries you are going to store. Or if you're planning to offload projects to an external.
I couldn't believe you didn't know that there's a pull tab to remove the plastic from the box. No big deal, just sayin'. 🤟😃
Just to add, I got an M1 MBA to use along with my MBP 16. I'm really happy with this setup. Congrats on your 16"!
I'm confused. I entered the choices you list in the specs on the Apple website and the amount totaled $4,299.00, yet you say that without taxes and Apple Care the amount would have been "a pinch under $4,000". How is this possible?
David Wahrheit I just checked on it, some of the options went up in price 😣
@@priyonjoni Wow, that's a considerable difference! Thank you for checking!
*subbed* much love from Vancouver Canada ❤️😁 did you go 64gb ram?
I was tempted to, but I could not foresee a reason to need at all. I was looking for greater render speeds, and it was more on the CPU and graphics card than it was on the RAM from my research. I don't do crazy heavy plugins or effect chains in ableton so 32 is plenty. It's double what I had, and it never felt like it wasn't enough.
@@priyonjoni can you please help me decide idk if I should get the base model or get this configuration for future proof, the base is ALREADY more than what I currently have 2015 13" MacBook pro no graphics 128gb ssd 8gb ram so it's already a big jump im just concerned if I'm going to spend $3k might as well spend the extra $1500 on top ? I'm editing 2.5k raw and RUclips videos and tiktoks , currently making music in garage band but I wanna learn final cut pro x and logic and I edit videos on iMovie right now but I wanna get there eventually, just have a total of under $5k so it would clean me up, but if it makes me money from RUclips ads maybe itll pay for ITSELF 👍 help!!!
Honestly, the decision is yours and yours alone to make. I was just sharing my insight on why I made my decisions. You really have to research what kind of power is needed for the type of work you plan to do.
Pri yon Joni thank you, i definitely did my reading and looks like the base model is enough for right now, just not sure about the future but maybe we will cross that bridge when we get there.
64 GB ram is good for running virtual machines. If there’s a need to run windows or linux program under Mac OS, 64 GB is preferred.
Am I the only one that doesn’t manually change their brightness? I prefer the software to automatically change my brightness.
Hey, the bench mark of 13inch MacBook air is out, and it outperforms yours 16inch MacBook Pro with ease. RIP
And it works will with apps I use? Wait, do you even know what apps I use? Rosetta 2 is a great thought, but the audio production software industry is small to say the least, and will take time to adapt.
The 16 should get ice lake or tiger lake this fall. You should not get a 16” til November.
Maybe a 13” decked out, but even then they most likely will have ice lake or tiger lake as an option for the new 13” MacBook Pro with 1080p camera and smaller bezels. Which drops this October.
ive bought it months ago. and even if i have to wait until now even the arm mac released now i would preffer to buy it for the same reason 👍
im @9:32 did'nt see your response on the speakers but i think it will blow you away !! my 13 inch speakers are amazing !! i love them and I think your ones will shock you too !!
They are shockingly amazing
I've never opened a brand new mac book... but I want to ...
Hold down the FN key and you can get back your function keys
Who’d’ve thunk it
Joni, I subscribed to your Chanel just for your comment “ I keep the box in case I sell my older laptop, which I never do” ..hahahahaha That’s is me too lol, I have all my Apple boxes too. 😹😹
Can ARM based Mac run steam games?
GREAT question.
Using the laptop on cable power always, would it harm the battery?
nope. just take it out for a quick spin in a few months of use
I use a utility that limits allows me to set a limit. I set mine to a 75% max.
What Brand does the shirt have you are wearig? It looks totally Steve Jobs