MacBook Pro 16" - 5 MAJOR ISSUES - 6 months real use
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2020
- MacBook Pro 16" after 6 months of real use in 2020 - the most expensive laptop I've ever bought. Also the workhorse for my entire professional life.
To cut to the chase, YES, it's the best laptop in the world, but after 6 months NO I'm still not completely happy. It has 5 BIG ISSUES. Also some tips & tricks on graphics, usage, security, handling and more.
I'll give you the details, but first I will tell you the story about the MacBook Pro in the Burmese jungle.
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Wow! Great storyteller. Funny. Like the accent. Very organized thinker. Knows his stuff. Doesn’t get lazy when communicating a thought (provides detail instead of using the words “it” “they” and so on).
This video has really helped me in deciding which specs to purchase in the 2020 16” MacBook Pro. Had a smile on my face the entire video and laughed a few times too.
Thank you.
Wow, I'm supper happy to read this comment. Thank you for taking the time to write it and I'm sure you will love that 16", it's a beast!
Thank you for doing this. Your detail has taught me on how to look at it in different perspective. Im new to this and plan to get one soon but unsure to go for which one. your video is very helpful for new bee like me. :)
I had the same computer crashing & fan running wild problem. It happened when I had a faulty SDD. Amazing quality and amount of work you've put into this!. I'm with you 100% on these 5 points!
You give great detail in a very entertaining way. Thankyou
hi bro i hav e the same model my mac is draining the battery plugged in, how can i solve this?
This is spectacular! Subscribed.
Better Macbook review ever! Great charm CTO Larsson. Thank you
Great review! Just switched from my old MBP retina 2012 to a new 16" MBP. So far so good for me, although battery life it's not great.
Very nice and insightful video! Time went by quick. You’re a good storyteller! Hope they are listening!
Dude awesome video!!
Which leather bag did you use (see 4:32)? Thanks!
So what were the 5 major issues ?
Great video! I’ve had this computer for a few days and the fans went off for the first time when downloading a photo. Is this normal? Or should I keep an eye on it?!
great video... Thank you..!!! (what is the name of the program/widget you are using to see the witch graphic card you are using in 7:51 ?). I think you said Istat
Try to plug charger to the ports on right side of the MacBook Pro. Are fans also so mad? Do you still have freezes with charger on the right side?
Great video!
What an awesome video, well done. My 17" 2010 MacBook Pro has been a rock solid machine and serves me well (using it now). But its time to move on to the new 16" MacBook Pro. I'm a bit disappointed to hear yours freezes from time to time, hope I don't experience this. Really liked your video...Thanks
“Security is one of those things you don’t appreciate when it works.”
I agree 100%, fantastic video!
Excellent~! I am glad to hear you talk about computers :D
I bought the quad core 4 port 13”. Took it back for a refund after a week. The heat was unbelievable, it was close to combustion
What gpu do you have on ur machine?
I also ordered the new 16” MBP the day it was announced. However, unlike you I purchased it fully loaded, and I am so glad I did. The crazy cost of the 8TB of SSD storage has more that paid for itself in convenience and time savings. I travel a lot for work and I never need to fumble around for a hard drive or thumb drive and adapters and cables. I open it up and my project files are ready to go...LOVE IT! I haven’t had any of the intermittent crashes, which means its a QC issue with yours, which sucks...sorry! I agree about the tough bar. I use it for volume and that’s it.
Nice review!
Thanks Paul. Yes I agree, I was maybe too harsh haha, it's still THE best laptop by far and I use it as my daily workhorse.
You should make a review of your fully loaded mb 16
@@lewisalexander Hey Lewis. Happy I read your comment. You are one of the few I saw doing pro audio work. I'm using Cubase, still want to upgrade from my 2015 15" but saw some reviews (and tested in the store myself) about this annoying "sound click/crack" issue when playing audio on different platforms/DAWs (even in Logic). Of course all of those issues occurred while using the internal audio hardware so, almost every time you would play and pause the audio you would hear a loud click from the speaker. This can be annoying in a 4-5k pro device. Also the fan spin when connected to external screens was an issue for most. Indeed when recording, doing final edits, heavier edits you would use an external sound card but, if you are on the go and just want to connect your mini keyboard and start an idea it can be frustrating, just thinking of it.
I was curious if you encountered any of those issues in your line of work? I just can't find anymore reviews on this sound issues, maybe you can share a bit of your overall experience. Only 3 weeks left till the Nov Apple event, hopefully a new 2020 16" without any issues ?!
Appreciate the honest hands on review! I also loved my very reliable 2012 Retina while roaming the world on business. Recently I’m finding that video editing on the 12.9” iPad Pro much smoother and faster than on my 2017 MacBook Pro thanks to the A12s chip. Apple’s transition to ARM laptops will be a game changer for MacBook Pro.
Yes that's a very true insight. I realized just a few days ago that the the only device that can even play back the new Canon/Sony H.265 10 bit 4:2:2 codecs smoothly, without skipping frames in chunks with CPU maxed out, is the iPad Pro, while a $20,000 Mac Pro can't. Isn't that mind bending?!
@@ctoLarssonTECH it's baffling, yes, but not surprising. Intel obviously has been defeated by it's own success (or pseudo monopoly) before, implementing the next gen video codecs always took them long, especially for encoders. The x86 platform hasn't been very innovative, unbelievably little innovation over 12 years or so. Apple with their chips however have always been video centric, at least they'd like to market themselves that way. Here is a rare proof that they actually put their money where their mouths are at.
I'm actually quite excited about their upcoming ARM based laptops. I don't see them delivering lackluster performance, I think they'll stick to their promise of longer battery life at higher performance... BUT, I don't think you'll get your wish of higher graphics performance in general, I don't think they could beat the current nvidia solutions, let alone the upcoming next gen ones of Nvidia and AMD, not for general purpose or compute, but definitely in the video de/encoding department, I have no doubt!
@@ctoLarssonTECH - could be the advantage and efficiencies of SoC on the "mobile" Apple processors ... I would love an option to double up the RAM, after purchase - or force the lower end (power efficient) card to run - even if it is at reduced resolution (not 4K?) though I am sure the lower end card can run at least one external 4K + the internal at normal resolution.
Intel has some advantages, though - depending on the work needed. I do like the dual video options, yet you are correct CTO Larsson - Apple could and should do a better job with the implementation.
Maybe the M1/M2 based MacBook/MacBook Pros resolve this all?
Is 16 inch MacBook Pro not good after 6 month
Hahaha great vid!! give this man a big credit!! this vid is so underated man
Wow, I enjoyed this
But did you edit videos a lot with the Macbook Pro back then in 2013 and it never failed? Or did you just use it for programs that required less performance?
I see video editors often go with the iMac?
I did edit a few videos but at that time in iMovie :-) Otherwise, fair point that it was less CPU intensive tasks at that time. A bit brain intensive tho
Great review my old MacBook and MacBook Pro died so updating to a M1 MacBook Pro until , the 16inch M1 MacBook Pro is available. I use mine primarily for Grad school /work /gaming .
Truly, a very focused presentation without the excessive 'Don't forget to smash that like button' or saying 'Like', like all the time.
Decision changing video.. by the way, whats the name of that coffee maker?
Great great video! I had my 2013 macbook pro 15 inch for about 7 years until i got the new 16 inch and sold the old one for 800 euros on ebay.
Has been super supper great!
That freezing problems is a t2 crash.... happens when plugged in into a display.
Great video good narrative
Thanks for the encouragement!
Amazing video
I've had mine fixed twice - wondering now if I have a lemon. Apple quickly replaced the Logic board and touch ID board both times it was in for repair.
Same issue. Hope it won't fail again :/
Great video, very entertaining. I've had the same spec MBP 16 but with 16GB RAM since Jan 2020. Upgraded from previous model which was rock solid but hated the keyboard. This one seems to be running hot all the time. I tried to migrate from a iMac 27" by buying a 32" LG monitor and Apple Magic Keyboard and Mouse. What a mistake! Constant issues even when plugged in. Eventually both USB-C ports on right side stopped working. Apple replaced the logic board, touch ID board, 2 x I/O boards. I stopped using it with the LG monitor because I thought the controller was the issue. It wasn't the MBP still locks up for reasons I don't understand. May suddenly restart itself, the fan makes a lot of noise. Apple support suggested SMC and NVRAM resets before I do anything else. A little more stable but the graphics are glitchy still. This is the most beautiful and most powerful MBP ever made but I can't help feeling it is still a prototype and the physical constraints of the machine struggle to accommodate the powerful components inside. Someone told me that it has bugs and will eventually be reliable as these are ironed out. I didn't spend $3,200 on a work laptop to be a tester! Still love it but like Larsson, am not confident in it. It can crash at any time and that's unacceptable for business. For the first time, I am more confident in my Win10 HP work laptop.
I have exactly the same wish list, because of the same issues (including the insane price in SEK, what makes all the issues even more painful)
oh wow good to see the coffee maker get featured! ☕️
That coffee maker has outlived at least 10 Macs. A beast. Deserves its own episode.
Hello ! nice video ! i want a video on the new macbook pro max :D !
FUNNY TECH VIDEO EVER, KEEP IT UP, BROTHER!
haha I swear that was a unicorn that ran by at first
Have all these same issues. Huge design flaw with this power supply. Needs 120w when using premiere or other graphics apps and USB C can only pass through 100w. Hence the battery drain.
Haha great video bro. New models wont disappoint you I am sure. Please buy and review the new models!
I have this same machine and I have also had random reboots and WiFi issues which seems like it's less rock-solid compared to the models from 5 years ago. However, some of that could be intel's fault, the new M1 chips could be the way to address almost all of these concerns (except touch bar), it seems even the "slowest" M1 can get the job done in a 16" if it supports 2 externals and has 4 ports.
I wanna know what specs u had
Am a heavy Logic Pro user. Sometimes i have to take my external monitor off because my project crash and laggy. It pissed me off . It never happened with my other 2020 13 inch macbook pro .
That's a movie. A great one!
This video was an excellent review of the 16” MBP. I think I will wait to purchase the next model however, based upon the 5 CTO LARSSON REVISIONS mentioned in your video. Apple can and must do better!
The 5600M does what you wish for #1 and #2 (well, it doesn't permit the iGPU + externals but it improves in this area)...it's way more powerful, way more efficient, and plays much better with displays without crazy fan noise when doing next to nothing. The 5600M kexts also seem to be quite mature. Unfortunately, it bumps the price even more. In the US the 5600M is an $800 upgrade on a computer with a base price of nearly $2,500...give it 32 gigs of RAM, 1 TB SSD, and the i9 and it's a $4,000 system in the US. I really wish Apple had figured out a way to make the 5600M the sole GPU on the 16-inch MacBook Pro because while I am not sure if HBM is the future or not, it works extremely well with the 16-inch MacBook Pro and works way better in terms of operating within the thermal constraints presented by a compact case design as such.
Great storyteller!!!
Thanks for the kind words! What does your handle name mean?
Any device as sophisticated as a laptop is going to have a percentage of failures and lemons. It really sucks if you end up getting a bad machine, but not necessarily indicative of overall quality if the numbers are really low. Anecdotal evidence of build quality based on a single machine isn't a great source of data. My heavily used 2014 mbpro just died, but I'm sure most power users weren't so lucky to get 6 quality years out of theirs. If the 16" issues are widespread, that's a different story. I'm not sure what the failure rates are of this machine, but I've not seen any problematic numbers reported and it seems like the keyboard issues have been mostly fixed. I'm more interested in how Apple responds to any new issues and how effective they are at fixing them.
Very good video, none the less.
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I enjoyed this a lot!!! Watching this on my MBP 16-in that's currently making popping sounds bec it's connected an external display
Maria Hermocilla what gpu do you have on it?
@@alinmustata the 5500
Maria Hermocilla the 4gb or the 8gb of ram? Does it still make the popping sounds? :) I am trying to figure it out if I should get the 5600m for that matter
@@alinmustata The 4Gb. I read somewhere that the 5600m should no longer have this issue.
Maria Hermocilla I see, thanks for the info, is it doing also with Big Sur os?
Had the same crashing issue with my Mac book. One solution is to make sure you connect your charger to the right side of the macbook.
Agree, it's the most well functioning laptop. Had a look at a Mac Pro for the office too but then price goes even wilder. From 72k sek to a maxed out one reaching a ridiculous 650k sek(!!) Think I'll probably just do dual boot with linux for the home base. edit: Or even a mac mini I guess.
Yep, it's the best laptop. Also they have now released one of my recommendations (beefier graphics). The Mac Pro is ridiculously priced, and you can't shove it in the bag. For someone who travels a lot usually, that's an expensive dust collector.
You are amazing.
You are fab.
And I guess you've heard that joke before 😆
My gf is swedish and as soon as I played the video she recognized the accent😂 great review!!
what??? why only 4 k subs ...come on he deserves much more ....count me in.
Interesting video (:
Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Having the same problem with overheating when an external monitor connected to the Macbook Pro 16 actually I did find some videos about that on YT and stumbled upon your video when doing research … In fact Apple does not have a “Pro” laptop at the moment, as all designers do work on external monitors. It also has problems with SSD or other peripherals connected to the laptop. It all means that the temperature of the laptop rises up to 70c or higher. I have experienced some unexpected shutdowns and freezing of the computer. And when running hot the computer does not shut down properly. I have to unplug it from the monitor to cool off and then it shut down normally. Thi is crap. We should all unite and demand our money back. The computer has a serious design flaw and I am personally losing time every day. I am also worried that the computer will have issues as it is always running hot!
Yeah, running a second monitor when weather is hot gets really annoying
Mine s constantly using battery when in heavy load, after 10 months, my battery health is already 86%.... this costs 200GBP to replace.... 10 months only. The power supply cannot feed enough power for the CPU and GPU, so it cycles the battery shortening its life span, its designed like this.... its made to need a battery replacement every two years....
On the GPU critique, fair enough, but be mindful that a beefier GPU in terms of TDP, would require a larger AC charger, and Apple is already at the limit of USB-c charging capacity, so apple would hve to go back to a power only plug connector which would be a defeat of the logic of the machine. Also, it is thermal management, with that thin chassis you cannot put beefier GPUs or it will throttle massively and take the CPU down throttle with it. for better GPU you either do external GPU (which will take care of your external monitor fan problem) or Apple makes the machine even thicker.
There is a beefier GPU option...it's the 5600M. It's vastly faster than the 5500M, it consumes wayyyyy less energy, and it causes wayyyy less CPU throttling than the other two GPUs.
I also had spent a lot of money and having the problem of overheating when using an external display is just🥴
So it overheats when connected to a monitor?
Does it crash?
I agree
*Thanks for the review. I just ordered my 16 inch MBP 2020, and I paid close to $6,000.00 CAD for it. It has not arrived yet, and I'm concerned about it actually getting here, as I live in a rather remote part of Canada, which isn't quite covered normally by all of the regular commercial couriers Apple Computer uses. Two of the three items I have ordered are already late and I am hoping they will be delivered this week. (??) I'm super concerned about the most important part of my Apple online order (A specially tricked out MBP for video editing with the new AMD Radeon 5600M with 8 GB of super fast HBM2 video RAM), this is the most expensive laptop computer I have ever ordered ! Contacted courier, and they told me they hand off shipments to my area to a 3rd party contractor for delivery. The FedEx guy said not to worry, and it will be delivered on Friday. Well, guess what ? It never showed up ! Hmmmmm ? Praying. Can hardly wait to get my new power house MBP 16 inch 2020 lappy*
I have that one, but idk. I‘m not happy about it.
@@EDIBre Why ? What's wrong with it ?
@@markjob6354 performance wise it‘s very good but it get‘s so hot when u plug it into a monitor. Really concerns me
@@EDIBre I am about to receive my 2020 MBP. It will be interesting to see if I experience simular issues with excessive heat. I sure hope not, because too much heat will eventually fry the internal components.
Sudden freeze then shut down, and overheating with external display is a big mess, and apple still has no thoughts to fix it.
From the heart! I have the same gripes and hope Apple is watching. Had a LG external monitor and fan goes trough the roof. Apparently problem can be solved if you add a utility to fix the refresh rate to 60hz. LG wen black from time to time, returned the monitor GARBAGE.
Great clip, this clip should be sent to Apple. I own this model it is very loud and hot when connecting to an external display.
Hi, what other issues do you have?
I agree with the Quality control part ! What has gotten into apple !
Absolutely great review there Larsson. Just bought a big fat expensive fully loaded 16" pro, which I need. Battery has been my serious issue. Nothing else. (I am not a power user) BUT, FUCK, battery time? Apple, come on!!
Agree, the power draw on the graphics card is huggeeee
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Your lockups are probably related to that T2 chip that you said you liked. Supposedly Apple’s last updates to Catalina were going to address that. The real solution may be the Apple Silicon machine. But then you loose the advantages of running an Intel processor.
great review. T2 chip comments didn't age so well with checkra1n out in the wild
Your charger will probably again think being a 60W if you only use the cable for 60W again ;)
It‘s the cable...
Lol yeah it has some identity crisis. I actually tried switching the cable, but the issues were in the bricks. It has a firmware and maybe some memory too, but no user accessible reset unlike the Mac where you can reset the SMC
CTO LARSSON - TECH hehe :) but it‘s not what i meant. The cable has a peak wattage it can provide, no matter the power supply. Unfortunately, finding the right cable is quite difficult because it‘s hardly ever actively promoted. The cable that was provided by Apple for the 16“ does not do well data, but it‘s there for charging and should support the necessary wattage. For other high quality cables, go with original branding from the brand itself (no distributors in between because of fake products). The way i solved this: active Thunderbolt3 cable 2m from CalDigit for charging at the dock at home, power brick and original cable in the backpack. HTH and thanks for your video!
All praise, so no issues 😝😝😝
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My 2017 is now utterly f****d and I am back to using my 2015. When that dies I'll be buying a thinkbook and installing Linux. I am so disgusted with Apple under Tim Cook I wont buy another one until that tit is gone and they mke a MBP as good as they could in 2012 with magsafe. Honestly ever decision Apple has made in the last 5 years has been the wrong one.
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I have only one reason why I use it - a development tool for iPhone. Otherwise it is a garbage.
Biggest waist of money I’ve ever spent. The thing can’t even scrub 4K videos on 1/8 preview. Sounds like it’s going to blow up. What a joke.
Is that allowed? ....NO! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Thats Tim Cook job. Make money selling trash as old quality apple products.
worst MacBook I ever have purchased....
Oh no! What issues did you have? So sorry to hear..
It’s fucking trash my screen broke twice in 2 months Bc it’s weak af
storyteller .....dont worry u wont travel to third world so much anymore ....the third world is already in ...