27" iMac 2020 vs. 16" MacBook Pro - SHOCKING!
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2020
- Today I got a 5k iMac 27" with the 5700 XT Graphics. If you saw my MacBook Pro 16" review, you know I had 5 issues it. Will this 2020 iMac solve all of them, including fixing my 4k video editing in Premiere Pro?
I picked a different configuration and I think you will be surprised to see the results! This means a goodbye for me, find out which one.
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Configurations benchmarked and compared including those from Max channel / @maxtechofficial
- CTO MacBook Pro 16"
* 2.3 GHz i9 8 cores
* 64 GB RAM (Apple)
* AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB DDR6 192 GB/s 24 cores
- Max MacBook Pro 16"
* 2.4 GHz i9 8 core
* 32 GB RAM (Apple)
* R Pro 5600M 8 GB HBM2 394 GB/s 40 cores
- CTO iMac 27" 8 GB
* 3.8 GHz i7 8 core
* 8 GB RAM (Apple)
* R Pro 5700 XT 16 GB DDR6 384 GB/s 40 cores
- CTO iMac 27" 2 Rows
* 3.8 GHz i7 8 core
* 64 GB RAM (2 rows diy)
* R Pro 5700 XT 16 GB DDR6 384 GB/s 40 cores
- CTO iMac 27" 4 Rows
* 3.8 GHz i7 8 core
* 128 GB RAM (4 rows diy)
* R Pro 5700 XT 16 GB DDR6 384 GB/s 40 cores
- Max iMac 27" low
* 3.8 GHz i7 8 core
* 32 GB RAM (diy)
* R Pro 5500 XT 8 GB DDR6 224 GB/s 24 cores
- Max iMac 27" high
* 3.6 GHz i9 10 cores
* 64 GB RAM (diy)
* R Pro 5700 XT 16 GB DDR6 384 GB/s 40 cores
Thank you! 
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It's strange how this small channel with 3k subs produces such quality content that I love watching and supporting. Those million sub channels have all their videos made the same way and in the same old formula. Their videos are not as informative and fun to watch as they were trying out new things while they were growing. Goodjob mate!
👏🏾 Nice work and very handy information. My Mac upgrade is long overdue and this helps tremendously in not only my buying decisions but configuration alternatives. Tack 🙏🏾
This is the exact configuration I’m looking at getting for the same reason, thank you for the great info!
Another great educational video LARSSON. Thank you from Thailand.
Had no idea you could hold the 'Option' key down to select actual resolutions instead of "More Space"
Great tip!! Thank you
Thank you much for the comparison which was different from rest of the videos out there. This has changed my views and thoughts on how much GPU I need to get while configuring. I’m into photography and shooting Timelapses. And having better GPU will help me edit those! THANK YOUUU CTO 😊
Well done! Both informative and entertaining. If you do anything with OBS studio I would love to know how the new iMac performs with that. Will share this video with all my video geek buddies.
Thanks man! It's the setup I'm looking to buy now, so I know I'll have something good!
Great video and production!
Awesome video, super thorough!
Great video man! Keep it up
I’m excited to see the results, wanted to ask what you’re feeling now? I’m thinking of getting the 10 core for a boost in raw video and 2TB ssd for convenience, u loving it so far? And u skipped nano glass?
Great comparison thanks for sharing 👌👍
Excellent video, congratulations.
Nice video! I actually purchased the exact same configuration as you, all the way down to the trackpad over mouse option. I went with an aftermarket Samsung single stick 32GB + the 2 Apple provided 2 x 4GB sticks = 40 GB - slotted correctly at 2667 MHz DDR4. Based on your review and others, it seems the sweet spot is between 32 and 64 GB so for now at least, I'm good with 40. Mine was also an upgrade from a MBP, but mine was an older 2013 MBP-R with similar fan noise issues.
Actually, can you do a future video comparing the rendering time of Premier vs FCPX? I’m really curious how big of a performance difference there will be.
Thank you! Guess this is the only video where we see how gpu can make a big difference. Great job 👏
Fantastic review man! This was the exact specs that I needed a review for and comparing them to Max’s specs. Everyone else covered all the other configuration but this configuration. After watching your review you confirmed that it will be worth upgrading to the 5700xt in my case as well. I will be using this iMac for mixing and recording music and editing in FCPX in my studio and I use a second monitor as well. I’ll be ordering one of these bad boys this weekend b/c my 2012 iMac thunderports died 2 weeks ago but I did get 8 years out of that iMac so I’m happy about that.
So here’s the specs that I’m gonna order:
IMac 27” i7 8GB RAM(Will upgrade to 64GB) 5700xt and 2TB SSD.
Thanks!
-Chris
I think a lot of people buy the Macbook Pro but it would be better to get the iMac as they always use it at home. The Macbook Pro 16" is a great product but if you don't need to travel around a lot and you do a lot of work in programs like Logic, Reason, and Ableton then I think the 27" iMac is the better option with much more screen and less noise.
Cool to see the comparisons with Max’s 10 core iMac. I wish he world have reviewed the 8 core against the MacBook Pro with 5600 graphics, since it seems like he was recommending the 8 core.
Tjäna Herr Larsen, what do you think should you cancel the Sony order and get the Canon C70..?
There's a massive difference between the 5600M and 5500M 16-inch MacBook Pro. The 5600M model is shockingly faster not only in GPU performance but also with CPU performance, due to the greater efficiency of the 5600M dGPU freeing up thermal headroom. It would be awesome to see one of the 5600M MBPs factor into a future comparison of yours.
Great tests! What’s your impression of the fan (noise) during actual workload?
Mine is quieter during my load when compared to my 2015, but it seems to be louder when normal use. I have a replacement and will see if that’s better!
Thanks for the tip with option click on the scaled button in deisplay resolutions.
I was until yet, always on 3200x1800 and thought that is huge for my workflow.
5120x2880 rocks.
Couldn't you tell me this 8 years earlier... :-)
Thanks for the detailed review of the options. Very nice.
Merci beaucoup pour l'information très instructive 👍🏻. Je te suis maintenant et vais aller regarder tes autres vidéos.😎🇨🇦
I don't know where you are from, but you sound like an alternate reality Arnold, one where he decided he wants to do tech reviews instead of movies :P
Did You notice any issues with fan noise? I saw that many RUclipsrs complaint about imac equiped in i9 and 5700XT. Please answer this question since I'm about to buy one.
Hi. What do you think about thermal issues when connect an external monitor. In my case I have to work with clamshell mode and even using closed lid fans noise is anoying. Whats is happening with quality we use to expect from apple? Tim just change colours some buttoms shape take a lot of money but quality and performance is a total disaster. ?
Lol you should hear my Dell 27-7775 AIO RYzen 7 1700 Rx 580 8GB, sounds like a turbo on a car, when fan is a full speed. Heats the room nicely in winter.
Awesome! Looking into buying a new MacBook Pro But this got me excited for an IMac! What did you pay for the iMac vs the MacBook Pro?
Pricing is readily available on the Apple site.
Is the 2020 iMac with 5500xt 8gb still capable of working with final cut 4K editing?
Mac Pro give away soon?
Jk, love your channel though
Hi, I am having,
27Inch Retina 5k Display, 3.8 GHz 8 CORE 10TH Gen i7 Processor, 40GB RAM, 8GB VRAM,1 TB SSD, 10 GB Ethernet Port, Trackpad 2, Keyboard with Numeric Keypad - US English.
Can you suggest me an UPS for the above iMac? How to calculate the UPS Voltage requirements for using the iMac.
Great video as having similar experience
Hello friend!! Any thoughts on the new Apple Silicon? An iMac might the ticket for me also
14:29 What are your CPU cores doing outside? Shouldn’t they be inside the iMac?
Did you get the standard glass monitor or nano texture version?
Do you know if the SSD drive is user upgradeable as well?
To edit 4k video without lag it's better to transcode your footage when you offload your camera cards to Apple ProRes or another I-Frame codec. All those video camera compression codecs are engineered for card storage and not for fluid video editing. Heck you can even edit 4k like butter on very old macs if you use ProRes. I-frame video codecs don't need real-time decompression from your processor and therefore playback is smooth.
Jo dude, I did everything right. Having the Same configuration with 4 Rows of Ram. Maybe you can run less Ram for Premier (64 GB) and the rest for other applications for more a stable System.
I think I’m going to go for the 5700xt 16 gigs of ram option🤗
Daaamn, I didn't realise how easy upgrading the RAM was on an iMac 🤯
Right? and Apple's RAM upgrades are criminal in price.
@@bryanstrader1740 retail RAM of all brands are really "criminal" always do it yourself
@Leah Humphries - not all iMac's are that easy; my new 21.5 inch iMac requires an extensive teardown which takes about an hour if you're well versed in deep hardware upgrades. Good luck with your upgrades and computing.
@@neilreid9005 I was planning on getting the 2020 27" if I get an iMac, not the 21" as the specs aren't as good. But thanks for letting me know! :D
If video rendering is the main reason for the iMac switch, might be a BlackMagic eGPU for the MacBook Pro would have been the better option, faster and cheaper.
What is the max size of eGPU that can work with macbook pro?
amaizing!
Try switchresx for custom resolutions
Sad that you did not showed the vacuum cleaner sound of the Macbock Pro.
Wait how was it worthless with the ram
I have built a pc recently that benchmarks around the same as an imac 4x the price. Why do people get the more expensive solution? I mean, it took me around 4-5 hours to put the parts together, it was around $700 and it is pretty awesome (could be better though, with another extra 300 bucks). But still I’m at the price of an ipad pro.
I travel quite a bit but realisitically ask yourselves where do you actually have serious work done? MBPs while sipping overpriced coffee is just facade.
Also depends on if you are in college or not. For students, having the portability of the MBP is very important.
@@sethsarchet1020 Yes as a student I would definitely get a laptop
Why don't you leave old ram in too? Why not gives more ram 8GB extra.
MHz lower
@@Alex-zu4lg ahhh
I have a trivial question, what is the name of the app he uses to monitor CPU and GPU usage?
Activity monitor; comes with Apple OS software built in
@@jacobgerritsenfilms3559 thanks I thought he was using like iStats or something.
than wouldn´t it have be more easy to put an eGPU on the macbook pro to get even better results than the new Imac with an even better GPU than the 5700 XT? Like a radeon 7 for exemple.
and the 5600M in the last macbook resolved the heating issue when connected to an external monitor btw.
It’s true! The 16” MacBook Pro runs very hot when using both its internal display and an external. You know why I think it is? Because due to a quirk of the internal layout, the Mac must run discrete Radeon graphics to power one display at least. It’s a big shame because with the lid closed you lose everything, including the microphones.
It has to do with the GDDR6 memory on the 5300M and 5500M being inefficient and running VRAM at full clock, drawing 20 watts of power even at idle. The 5600M GPU, which uses HBM, is vastly more efficient and largely fixes the issue.
@@npaul4171 does that mean the problem goes away if I use an eGPU? For me, an eGPU is much cheaper and easier than flipping my machine online and replacing it.
@@npaul4171 20 watts at idle? I run a 16" MBP with 5500m in Windows 10, which always use the discreet graphics, and it is dead silent, even if I watch 4K RUclips. If it was really drawing 20 watts fans should be running continuously?
@@djsnowpdx Correct, an eGPU would then allow the discrete GPU to function as if there was no external display, eliminating this excessive power draw behavior. It looks like a lot of people who have the 5300/5500 + externals do an eGPU and then use the Terminal command to tell the system to always use the iGPU.
@@TheKimNeeper It happens only when using one or more external displays with the clamshell open. In Windows, however, this behavior of a 20 watt draw is not present.
Where the RAM really makes a difference is when you have a several programs open at the same time
or when you do music production and you need a lot of channels/tracks!
If the Imac wasn't laptop parts inside, the results would of been much higher. If it had true desktop components i mean.
Of course! Macbook pro 16 has a big thermal throttling, believe me, I saw 0.8 and 1.0GHz even，it slows down everything, not just render time! And iMac is a desktop! You are comparing a desktop vs mobility first machine?
Too bad you can't easily upgrade ram on MacBook pro
You just can’t.. the ram is soldered onto the motherboard.
its also £1000 cheaper than the 2020 16inch laptop
REALLY FUNNY!
For various resolutions, another piece of software to try is Resolutionator (manytricks.com/resolutionator/)
Is that Estonian or Finish accent?
It is Swedish!
@@ctoLarssonTECH haha cool :)👍🏻
The solution was HACKINTOSH which was my greates experience until Apple said it comes up with their own CPU which will kill the Hackintosh story.....sad but true
Ygk
Shockingly overpriced crap.
Ergh, I hate how the NERDS have gotten hold of Apple products. That's why I miss Steve Jobs, he put the nerds in their place. Remember the mac vs pc ads? Yeah, exactly.
Spreadsheets? How exciting...
Being a nerd stopped being an insult two decades ago. And people buying Apple products are anything but nerds, who ironically are the ones building the devices and apps you use to feel cool.
you live in the oldies boy, get an upgrade.