MacBook 16” long-term review | Buy now or wait? | Mark Ellis Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- In this video, I give you my thoughts on Apple’s 16” MacBook Pro, after nearly a year of use. I reveal how the keyboard has performed, how the specs have fared for my varied content marketing work and whether or not it’s a good buy, bearing in mind Apple silicon-powered Macs are on the way.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - How I use it
02:25 - The specs I chose
03:20 - The keyboard
05:24 - Performance
08:55 - Design
11:49 - Speakers and mic
13:56 - The screen
14:39 - Key learnings
20:04 - Verdict
22:02 - Thank you!
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You deserve way more, like WAYYYYYY more subscribers - Like over a million subscribers! You are charismatic, charming, and so well-spoken and behaved. I am rooting for your channel to grow bigger and bigger! Keep up the excellent work Mark!
Thanks so much, Haneen! That’s such a kind thing to say. Long way to go until the million, but at least you were here from the start! And I’m really humbled by your comments - thank you again.
Me too
@@WoollyBugger_ Thank you!
I've had mine for 6 months now, exact same specs as you, and I simply adore it - and I would still buy it today too.
Me too, Nikki. Faults aside (what Apple device doesn’t have those these days?), it’s such a good machine.
Thanks for making a REAL review we all wanted to see, you are sincere and also thanks for not adding benchmarks or stuff. This was nice and you just earned a subscriber :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment, Ari. That's my goal with this channel; real-world reviews and limited numbers. Glad it's working for you :)
Thank you for the review ! Really liked the intro, hit the bell to see what else comes from your channel
Thanks Violet! Really appreciate that, and you won’t regret it. Lots on the way!
Hi Mark, stumbled on your channel looking for 16" MacBook reviews. Great content and editing, keep up the good work!
Thank you! I hope I assisted in one way or another with your buying decision. And thanks for the note on the editing - really appreciate that 😊
thanks for the advice! I really like the way you do the review, very transparent and straightforward! subscribed ✌🏻
Wow - thank you. That genuinely means a lot. Glad you enjoyed the review and welcome to the community!
Best review of this laptop on youtube! Awesome stuff mate, cheers from New Zealand
Wow. James - you are awesome and thank you so much for giving me your time. Lots on the way!
This is a very relatable and honest review, I know I can go and pick this MacBook up and from this review I know exactly what to expect! Good job man!
Thank you, Tommy - means so much! I really want this channel to be relatable, I think it’s so important. It’s partly why I don’t do deep dives into specs - I’m far more interested in real world performance. You won’t regret your purchase, trust me.
Fantastic review, I'm in the process of getting one just before Christmas and after watching your review its a green light. Off to see where the best deal is......
Thank you very much, Andrew - really glad I helped on some small way 😄
Such honest takes on reviews :D All the best mate!
Thank you - that means a lot 😊
Great review! Straight to the point and great with the examples of your experience. You just earned yourself a subscriber. Keep going like this!
Thank you, Brandon - and welcome onboard!
Great review ! Subscribed.
Thank you, David!
I enjoyed this review, thank you!
Thank you David!
Really good video mate, this channel will go far, best of luck to you!
Genuinely humbled by that comment - thank you.
I am so happy you came on my recommended. I am literally a marketing student that has been going between 27inch vs 16inch macbook
Thank you so much! And I’m glad I’ve helped you during that tough decision making process!
Why haven’t you have 10K subs? Your review is really solid, and it’s been some time since I’ve watch a full 20+ mins review, so well presented!
Thank you, Ziet - that genuinely means the world. And I have big plans, so that 10K subs may well be a reality one day. The channel is growing beautifully at the moment, so thanks very much for being here from the early days!
@@MarkEllisReviews all cool man! I believe it will be very soon! Keep it up 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Keep up the great work dude! Cheers from France
Thank you so much! Glad you’re enjoying the channel - lots on the way!
All round sensible & useful review. Thanks.
Thanks, Colin - that’s what I’m here for!
What an awesome review. I’ve watched it twice. Subscribed!
Oh wow. Thank you 😊
Nice job, Mark. I purchased a MacBook 16 in base model a few weeks ago. I am a photographer and it works beautifully for photo editing. I frequently have Lightroom, Photoshop and Luminar 4 running at the same time. Very smooth, no over-heating. For whatever it’s worth, now that we are past the big Apple November “reveal”, I’m very glad that I didn’t wait. I sincerely appreciate your common sense approach to reviews! Keep up the good work!
Thank you, Fred! Glad my approach has struck a chord - plenty more to come, so do spread the word! Glad you're enjoying your machine - it's a beast, M1 or no M1.
Excellent video quality and review. Nicely done.
Thanks so much for taking the time to read and comment!
Thanks man great review
Thank you, Ushindi!
Yooo, you have a pleasant voice and you’re so well spoken. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
I really enjoyed your insights on this video and your honest review on the laptop.
I always wanted to get one to work on the go, specially with music production.
The only difference would be the DAW that I use which is Pro Tools.
However, thanks for this incredible video. It has been very helpful and I am definitely subscribed to your content.
Greetings from Spain.
Thanks so much for the lovely comments, Jesús - really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed the video, too. If you do go for the 16", you won't regret it - it's one hell of a music production machine.
Great review. Subscribed
Thank you!
Watching this in 2024. Interesting to see your early reviews.
I don’t have a use for something like this. Looking forward to getting my hands on the new iPad Mini, when it’s released.
Thanks, as always, for the content.
Great review!
Thanks Matthew!
Thank you - very exited to receive mine which is same spec as yours but went for the top i7. Great overview and great to touch on actual usage as opposed to the generic benchmarks that other people throw at you.
Thank you, Stuart. That’s the goal with this channel. Spec dives have their place (and audience), but I’m only interested in how they translate to real world performance. Enjoy your MacBook!
Just subscribed. Great review. Think I’ll buy one now
Awesome, thank you so much. And I'm glad I was able to help with your purchasing decision 😃
It was so refreshing to see a review of this laptop that was straight to the point and grounded in the real world from those mighty specs. Thank you for this! I'm on the fence about getting a Macbook Pro 16" or a Dell XPS model... (I'm getting into video editing and film production and such). I've been PC my whole life and am wondering if this is the one to convert me to the dark side of the apple world. Regardless, this was super helpful. Subscribed and looking forward to your stuff!
Thank you, Paul! That really does mean a lot. I can't comment on the XPS comparison yet, but will be looking into that next year, so stay tuned!
Thank you for your review, your measured review was just what I need as I am vacillating between the13 inch and 16 inch MacBook Pro. In truth I have difficulty seeing the 13 inch screen due to my aging eyes. I have 2012 iMac 27 inch but I sitting for long in front of it gives me a neck ache despite having the proper chair height. I am trying to find the best option to last me for many years to go forward. I really enjoyed your video and have subscribed to your channel. Looking forward for more videos.
Thank you so much for your kind comments and for subscribing - it means the world. Based on everything you’ve said, and if you have the budget for it, I would absolutely go for the 16” MacBook Pro - it’s a hell of a machine and will last you for many, many years.
Assumed you had between 100k-500k subscribers then "let's hit 100 subs" popped up. Mindblown 🤯 your content is so well made! Awesome video!
That’s properly humbling, Leah - thank you! And yep, that video was indeed made when I was sitting at less than 100. We’ve come quite a way since then, and there’s so much more to come - thanks for tuning in!
Absolutely agree with you! Very happy with my Macbook Pro 16!
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying yours!
Great review 👍
Thank you!
Awesome video thank you for that. I have the 15” MacBook with the 2.3 i9 I bought it used from B&H photo when the 16” came out because it was a bit pricey for me but now I am trading it back to B&H and grabbing the 16” with the i9 great video. Stay safe and good luck
Thank you, Ron! You'll love the 16", I'm sure.
great real world review, having mentioned coming from a 13 inch macbook, assume this was the previous years model. I would like to get your thoughts on a video the compares the two, if you still own the 13" and left to keep one which would it be?
Awesome - thanks for the feedback and for watching, Peterson! I’m afraid my 13” was the very first generation of the new keyboard design, back from 2016. Therefore it wouldn’t be much of a comparison 😂 If it was last year’s - totally, that’d make sense. I will be checking out the Apple silicon Macs when they’re launched, though - so stay tuned.
Great review man! I went crazy and just bought a refurbished MBP 16” with 2.3ghz, 64gb RAM, 5600M and 2TB for a smidge over $4.2 K. I had the new 13 in MBP for a a bit and found it to be too weak/small for my multi-tasking needs. Prior to that, I owned a 2011 13” MBP. Keep producing solid content! Subscribed!
Thanks, James! That’s a killer spec. That 16” screen will make all the difference, too 👍
Great content mate.
Thank you!
great review i bought a 16 inch with the high i9 and 1 tb storage. then i did all the other upgrades to their mid level specs. i don’t rlly ever need it but it’s nice to have just in case because i’m still finding out what i’m doing in life so to have the ability to do basically anything i need will always be great investment in the long run
Thank you! That’s the best way to buy a Mac. Get that headroom and you can rest safe that it’ll last the distance. Enjoy!
So professional for such little subscribers; down to earth, honest and concise. I am a little bit like you in that I am a versatile musician that does remote recording using logic, home videos, online lessons, I’m going to make my own website soon too and I’m currently in the market for a MacBook pro of some description that will last me a good few years or so. I might shoot you a message asking for some advice, done all the algorithm pleasing things and I look forward to your future content.
Thank you Lloyd! That means the world, genuinely. I’m loving building this channel and the wider community and glad you’re coming along the ride. And by all means shoot me a question - happy to help in any way I can: mark@markellisreviews.com
Exactly my thoughts!
Great video!
Thank you, Mahmudul!
Amazing video dude
Thanks so much, Furqan 👍
Nice review man! Very informative and organized with the time stamps! I have a similar build MacBook 16 as you (i9, 16g RAM, 5500M, 1TB) I bought for music production and its an absolute beast. You got a killer setup for sure. 🔥 super expensive obv but imo it’s definitely worth it.
Thanks so much - glad you enjoyed it. And it really is a beast for music production in particular. I’ve never owned a machine which breezes through Logic Pro so easily!
Hey man, I’m going to order the same configuration tomorrow :D! How do you find it?
@@Vivivofi
Had it since Nov last year, super solid machine, keyboard is very nice to type on, speakers are rich, accurate bass and clear at the same time.
Remember to keep it plugged in whenever possible you'll conserve battery cycle this way.
Also idk if you plan on using your 16 with an external monitor or not, but theres reports of power draw spikes / fan spikes depending on your connection type. Do some youtube search first if this is what you're planning, and also install Mac Fan Control
I have never connected mine to an external monitors so idk, but something to consider.
@@Zimo0o thanks so much for getting back to me, dude! I just ordered it a few hours ago and I am stoked ahahaha! Thanks for the warning about the monitor setup and the other advice too :) Have a great day, my dude. May the Holy Ghost of Steve Jobs guide you in your path to success and, ehhh, world domination. Have a good one ;D!
Great video! Easy subscribe. I’m on the fence about going for the 16” as an upgrade for my 2013 13” and think after watching this I will wait to see if we get a refresh soon as if I do not like the new direction this model will get cheaper anyways. Frankly my fingers are crossed for a refresh with an upgraded intel chip and no Touch Bar but that is a pipe dream I reckon. It also helps I can afford to wait thanks to a huge SSD upgrade I did on mine so it is usable.
Thanks so much, Jack. And a great idea to hang fire for now if you can 👍
ill subscribe becoz i like how you do your review about the macbook pro 16” now im gonna buy myself a new macbook pro 16” without any hesitation that a new macbook pro 16” will come out
Thanks Leo, that means the world. It’s a brilliant machine and you will not regret it 👍
I really loved your video- I decided to buy an i7 32gb 5600m 1tb model last week because of multiple review but I found yours the most informative. How have you found the i9 over the i7 eg what kind of stuff do you do that takes advantage of multicore. With regards to the 2020 16inch they will just do a 10th gen CPU and possibly better webcam not that drastic a boost in performance. Btw 5600m is the graphics option that doesn't have external monitor power draw issue
Thanks so much, Paul! I’ve never used the i7 so it’s difficult to compare. My thoughts about tech in general are that you buy what you can afford and steer clear of too many online comparisons - they just become irrelevant if you can only afford a certain model (that goes for all of us). And you know what? The model you buy will be awesome, because these machines really are incredibly powerful.
The stuff I do which hits multi core is video/audio work and it just breezes through it. Yours will work 😉 Thanks for tuning in!
Great video pal, and very informative and straight to the point, I’ve just brought a 16inch i7 MacBook Pro myself but just the base model , as someone who’s never owned a MacBook before its pretty amazing, do you thing I’ll get a few good years from it as a graphic designer. Again continue the great content 👍🏽
Thank you Asim! Oh, you’ll get 4 years out of that machine - maybe more if you’re not that fussed about upgrading quickly. MacBooks have staying power in my experience, and they still retain their value well for resale. Enjoy! 👍
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Thank for the advise mate, Really loving the channel keep up the great work!
Pleasure - thanks for tuning in!
Thank you very much! I was actually taking notes while watching this video.
I wanted to weigh the pros and cons whether to keep my Air or spend £3k+ on a new computer. I decided that I actually need it. Thank you ☺️
No, thank you for tuning in! So glad I helped in some way with your decision.
Thank you very much for this upload, the first video I watched on your chanel. Highly informative and presented in a calm and pleasant voice. Just one thing I would have preferred: The pop-in/pop/-out editing was somewhat irritating, at least for me. But you did not 'underline' your presentation with an annoyning music track, which is fantastic. Well done.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting - glad you enjoyed the video. Are you considering a MacBook Pro 16”? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts if so. And thanks for the feedback on the edit - genuinely appreciate that. Maybe I’m a little too pop in/out happy at times 😉
@@MarkEllisReviews Thanks for acknowledging and for considering my feedback and yes, my Thinkpad T440s is due for a replacement. I am considering the Dell XPS 17, but only a 1TB factory option available here in Australia. The other alternative was the Thinkpad P1 Gen 3, but at more than A$10,000 retail, an extremely costly purchase and recent reviews are not all that glowing (i.e. fan noise, screen flickering, etc.). I am indeed curious about the Mac operating system, but I am running a number of non-subscription (fully paid) Windows based programs which would require Parallels. So, still undecided, especially with the ARM chips rumors.
Interesting. Frustrating when software subs keep you from a platform, right? I’d be the same if I switched to Windows. I will be reviewing Windows machines on this channel at some stage, so stay tuned. And good luck with the hunt - let me know how it goes (this MacBook is a brilliant machine).
Thanks Man .
This is the review which I’m looking for,
No benchmark bullshit,
Just real world usage review,
I’m waiting for this model to get updated with 10nm latest intel processors in next apple event.
Thank you, Lilesh - that's my goal with this channel, and I'm glad it resonated with you (and so many otherrs, seemingly!). Fingers crossed they release that version swiftly for you :)
@@MarkEllisReviews Keep making such videos,
You earned a Sub! a loyal fan of your work.
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Thumbnails does help in channel growth,
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Thank you once again! And I'm a big fan of Canva - already using it to make my thumbnails (although I know I have plenty to learn/improve upon there!). Thank you for the feedback, it's genuinely appreciated 👍
I bought one couple of months ago to replace my 2012 IMac. Love it. Does get really hot though I find. Is yours the same ? Bought for Final Cut Pro mostly. Enjoyed your review cheers 🥂
Thanks again Aly - glad you enjoyed the review! Must have been a big upgrade for you coming from a 2012 machine! And yes, this thing gets hot under load. I’ve learned to accept it but it does make it a rather tricky ‘lap’top at times 🥵
Mark Ellis Reviews yea it’s a beast. Just a roasting hot beast at that
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guys i have a Question
if i use the 16 inch macbook normaly (just open emails and watch youtube and things like that )
would it also becom hot?
@@hell6442 no would be fine for that
This is a great review, thank you for your insight. I feel very informed and also quite entertained. I have two questions: Would you recommend the 16" MacBook Pro over the 13" with similar specs? My work mainly focuses on audio production an I mostly cap out at 60 Tracks, so it's not too heavy. Secondly, would you recommend waiting for Apple silicon Macs, hoping the first machine will be a Pro Device? Thank you and keep up the great work!
Thank you Henni! First question: how important is portability to you?
I would say, it’s fairly important. I travel trough different studios from time to time with a bit of my most important gear, so I’d like to be able to easily take my computer, but I don’t need it to be able to stuff it a backpack on my bike.
Based on your reply, the 16" would be fine. It's just a bit of a pain to carry about regularly if you're heading to coffee shops and what not. I think you'll just get a bit more headroom with the 16" and the extra screen real estate is a bonus for music production.
@@MarkEllisReviews Thank you very much for you insights, this is very valuable advice for me. And keep up the great work, I felt thoroughly informed and appreciated by you taking the time to really answer these questions.
It's a pleasure, Henni - that's what I'm here for! Come back any time.
you will hit that 1m subscribers soon!
Thank you! And you were here right at the beginning 😃
just got the base model 16' but since heard the model get hot and loud FAST for seemingly no reason even for something as basic as web browsing due to the Intel chip not being powerful enough for apple software. considering saving money and going for the 13' M1 instead
Just discovered your chanel-amazing love it! Already subscribed. I just sold my old MacBook 2015, and waiting for apple silicon release hope they will show PRO version of MacBook 😃
Thanks so much, Krystian! Stay tuned to this channel - I’ll absolutely be checking out whatever it is Apple announces in November!
@@MarkEllisReviews bell on! Waiting for new content 👌
Awesome 😎
@@MarkEllisReviews I’m so so so excited about Apple silicon hope you will review newest toy !
Great review mate. Love from india.
Thanks Ron!
My 2012 macbook pro is coming to an end. I like the size of the 13 as i travel with it often. Do you think we'll get a 13inch similar to the 16 anytime soon? THanks
The 13" is a great size - I miss mine a little when it comes to portability. I've not used the latest iteration of the 13", but I've heard good things. That said, I think we're more likely to get a more significant design change before we see any more changes to that version. And who knows when that's going to happen!
@@MarkEllisReviews thank you
Hi Mark,
I appreciate your review based on actual usage over a fairly long time. I’m looking at getting the top tier one with 64 GB or RAM, the 5600M, and 4 TB of SSD. My existing MacBook Pro is the 2015 model with 16 GB of RAM and a 512 GB SSD, and while it still works fine, it is getting very slow on the very large photos that I take. I mainly use Lightroom, Capture One, and Photoshop, but would like to get into a bit of video, most likely Final Cut Pro, and I would like to do some music as well - I have a copy of Studio One 4. I suppose that’s why your review resonated because you seem to have a similar content creation focus.
The plan is to have the Lightroom catalog on the internal SSD rather than an external one. This will push the price up but reading various reviews on external SSD, the performance on them seems to be a bit hit and miss. Also, to get similar speeds on external storage you have to pay quite a bit anyway.
One of my concerns is the fan noise and have even looked at an iMac Pro because they’re said to be very quiet, even under load. I do like to be able to take it with me though so the iMac Pro (or the iMac for that matter) is not really suitable. As one reviewer said, the battery life on the iMac sucks.
Thank you for the feedback, George - that means the world. Really glad the review resonated with you, and it does sound like we work on similar content.
That spec will offer serious longevity, so while it'll be a big investment upfront, you'll get so much use out of it (4-5 years, probably). That's what I love about Macs. And as for the SSD, I think going big is a great idea when you're working on stuff like photography and video. I edit on the MacBook's SSD now and simply offload the files to external storage when done. On occasion, I'll edit on a 1TB SanDisk Extreme Pro, which is super quick.
The iMac Pro is an interesting alternative, but I think that's currently let down by the ageing design and fact it's likely to be updated soon (although, as usual, who knows when!). And yeah, the battery life on iMacs is dreadful...
Thanks for watching!
Great review, very useful since I just ordered one. Like everyone else I agree you should have more subs but I did notice that you have no tags on this video. Might help maybe?
Thanks so much, Kessia - that really means a lot. That's odd that you can't spot the tags, but they are there, I promise :)
Hey Mark. Great review. I'm a music producer myself, I use Cubase. Doing all my work on my 2015 15" model atm, amazing piece of tech even to this day. I do feel it has reached it's limitations recently and I've been thinking of going for the 16". From other reviews I've learned that there was an issue in the pro audio community with the fact that the internal audio hardware had a loud "click sound/crackle" almost every time you would play and pause audio in different media (ytube, Logic, iTunes etc). I went in a store to check this on a displayed model and indeed that happened. They all said the issue disappeared when you'd connect an external sound card (which you would do for all studio work or recording sessions, obviously), but if you are on the go and want to put down a quick idea in your DAW, that seems quite annoying for a 4-5k EU pro device. Some even had issues while connecting headphones.
Also, when in my studio I use two external screens, all is smooth and silent with the 2015 model. On the 16" fans seem to max out even while just connecting a screen without any workload at all.
I wanted to ask you if you encountered any of those issues I just mentioned. I feel it's time for an upgrade as well, and going back to Windows after this much time is a def no. Really love the smooth workflow of the Mac, just don't want to get frustrated for small issues that shouldn't appear on a machine like this.
Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, Andrei! The popping/clicking was definitely there when I first got the machine, but it's fixed now (I think due to a software/firmware update, but might be wrong). Certainly, I've not had any issues with it since in that regard.
As for the external monitors, I rarely if ever use one with this machine, so can't comment I'm afraid (although I'll do some testing at some stage). However, if you scroll through the comments on this video, you'll see it is noted a few times, and there are apparently some rather large threads about it on Apple forums... I'd give that a good bit of research before you buy just in case, but personally, I wouldn't let it get in the way of enjoying this brilliant music production machine.
@@MarkEllisReviews Thanks Mark! Appreciate the reply. Will def look into the external monitor threads before i buy. Good to know that the popping issue is solved. I think there's an Apple event in 2-3 weeks...might have an upgraded version of the 16" on it's way, still on Intel...will wait for that as well :). Cheers!
issue is that the computer can pull max around 90w of power and connecting the external dislay keep the dGpu active, taking 50w power already, leaving around 20 for the cpu (taking inefficiency into account) s it will be slow as hell and with the fan always full blast
you will get the same or even worst audio performance that a 2015 model with undervolt and repasting at that wattage, but it will also drop from time to time due to VRM overheating
Great review!
I'm thinking of going for the base 16inch model but not sure if I need the apple care or should I rather use that money and upgrade the memory to 32GB
That's a tough one. You'll get more headroom and longevity with the 32GB, but Apple Care is pretty valuable when you're spending this much on a device. What are you going to use the laptop for?
@@MarkEllisReviews thanks for such a quick response. I plan to use it as an everyday machine as well and delve into the world of content creation. Don't plan on travelling with it.. It's a shame apple care is only for 3 years though, considering most problems arise after that period mark... Don't you think?
In that case, 16gb might do you to be honest. 32gb could be too much headroom and the peace of mind offered by Apple Care is probably more valuable to you. And in my experience, these laptops last the test of time regardless!
@@MarkEllisReviews if these laptop do last the test of time, then don't you think 32gb would be a better investment to enhance the longevity in case I end up increasing the video editing etc? Final cut pro x + photo shop etc
Apologies for the questions but I'm just trying to weigh both options... And this discussion with you will most certainly help.
I think if you end up going more heavily down the video route, I’d upgrade the graphics card instead (much lower cost option). I think 16gb will serve you well to be honest. It all depends if you can forgo the Apple Care peace of mind, though - that’s more a personal choice 😉
as someone who says they produce music, have you experienced anything negative when updating MacOS? I'm concerned about getting a mac because of horror stories that come from updating MacOS (deleted files and/or incompatible programs) is this a myth? any tips on how to avoid anything like this from happening or how to overcome it?
I've just updated to macOS Big Sur and, although I've not delved fully into Logic Pro, a brief test with a few plugins seems to be ok (and I use a number from third-party developers). That said, I have experienced issues in the past. Keep an eye on the channel - I'm going to put something out about my first impressions and advice on upgrading...
At the price of the 16 inch MacBook I think it should come standard with 1tb of storage.
It’s hard not to agree with that. I’ve got the 1TB and it’s perfect for video editing on the go (if you don’t mind offloading used footage elsewhere). With this being a true ‘pro’ machine, I think you’re right - 1TB should be the baseline. But, this is Apple, remember.
I agree.
MBP 2015 is the best kbd ever. And I think MBP 16" is a nice successor in terms of typing. I do type with all ten fingers and currently have a hackintosh desktop with a nice kbd :-)
However I really like MBP because of the screen and trackpad capabilities.
The 2015 keyboard was fantastic, but I think I prefer the one on this 16" MacBook Pro... That said, I will be reviewing an alternative wireless keyboard for those who want to go 'rogue' and use a third party device. Subscribe and hit the bell to see that one!
Thanks for the cut-the-crap-to-the-point review.
That’s always the aim, Aniket!
I ordered the same one with same spec as you 🙂
Enjoy!
Be aware though, there is a software defect on 16”, when you plug in an external display while laptop lid is open the amd GPU starts to drain ALOT of watts, even in idle. Bad amd drivers i guess
Interesting. Sounds like external displays cause a fair amount of hassle with these 16” MacBooks, eh?
Indeed. This applies to the 5300/5500M GPUs, which will pull nearly 20 watts at idle. It does not apply to the upgraded 5600M though.
Any fixes out there? This device is almost perfect except this flaw which makes me go insane and makes me wants to sell it
Why would you exchange imac's 27" screen for 16" of an mbp ?
Wow, you’ve dug up an old one here mate 😂
@@MarkEllisReviews well, i was just looking for a review of a 16" mbp from 2019-2020 as i would like to buy one.
@@MarkEllisReviews but my question remains ...
@@mr.tusetsky7737 fair enough, dude. Portability is the main reason.
on final cut pro, how long your battery can last long? Mine 3 hours from full 100% to 10%
I've never tested this I'm afraid, as I religiously ensure I'm plugged in (or, at least, have plenty of battery headroom) when editing. I just don't trust any battery to get me through an important edit without the potential danger of it shutting down halfway though doing something! Your experience sounds reasonable to me, though (depending on what the work involves).
@@MarkEllisReviews just editing some 3-5 minutes footage while doing some color grading, the battery is draining very quick.
There's so much to take into account with battery performance, and I do think FCPX probably hammers the battery, to be honest. That being said, if you're not happy with it, I'd give Apple support a call!
@@MarkEllisReviews but is it safe to plug the charger in when we use fcpx? Battery lifespan will shorten fast right? because honestly I dont think there's a difference with the perfomance when charging or not.
I doubt there’s any performance difference when unplugged, but, equally, I wouldn’t worry too much about leaving it plugged in. Mine is connected for vast stretches of the day, and I’ve always done that with my MacBooks with no noticeable battery degradation.
Just bought one on eBay for $1400! A steal. Returning the M1 Air as its wayyyy too small as I had been using a 15 MBP.
That’s a steal and a half! My Air is arriving this week. Genuinely excited.
@@MarkEllisReviews get a magnifying glass, LOL
@@gregorynp 😂I'm actually looking forward to having a 13" screen to hand! Portability really does make a big difference at times.
I have had the 16" MacBook pro with the same processor. The Intel 9880H is a very hot processor and requires the fans to stay cool enough to provide adequate performance. This is not entirely Apples' fault, I put the majority of the blame for the fan noise of this computer on Intel. The AMD 5000 series graphics are a big improvement in terms of efficiency but the GPU does not run as cool as NVIDIA. Put together, there is just no way my 16" MacBook pro could possibly run as quiet as any of the desktop computers I have owned.
Great points - thanks, Tom. I simply don’t know enough about GPUs to talk authoritatively about this side of things but that seems to make total sense.
Nice, I have the full specs 13” and I might change to the 16” - fully spec out - because of my needs, but really good review, I enjoyed the audio - contact me if you like to work together by the way 😄
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video and audio - it’s all produced by me and you can find the tracks here: markellisreviews.com/free-podcast-themes/
And get in touch if you fancy working together - I’m always interested as to how that could pan out: mark@markellisreviews.com
I thought it was actually Johanthan Ive speaking, you voice is so similar to him 😂😂
😂 wow, well that’s a first!
OMG, yess!
are you gonna buy the silcone macs??
I will indeed. My prediction is that we’ll be introduced to a lower powered MacBook of some kind before the end of the year, and the prospect of that absolutely fascinates me.
@@MarkEllisReviews i feel like they are going to release a 13inch arm mac and then a 12 inch arm mac to rival crome books
You could be right. I love the idea of the chrome book rival - I’d be all over that. Stay tuned!
@@MarkEllisReviews subbed to see it XD
Can you help me please am a programmer is this laptop worth it???am a student btw
Also recommend me some specs
I’m probably not best placed to offer spec recommendations for developers as that’s not my bag at all, but you may find it’s overkill. Have you considered the M1 MacBook Pro instead? Potentially lots more bang for buck...
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I have but i want an intel chip
Next question is do you need the big screen?
@@MarkEllisReviews 😂😂😂okay my question is answered
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Its big, im watching this on my razer blade 17 inch. You dont know big my friend:P. If you need ports and dont use final cut, just get the razer blade. You can upgrade it easily and its solid.
I will indeed be heading into Windows territory this year. Needs to be explored.
Hm I would go for it if they remove this touchbar. And use something different than intel inside.
The TouchBar is completely pointless. I personally have no issue with Intel - it's long proven and just works. Excited to try out Apple's own silicon when it's here, though.
man in an ideal world we'll have upgradeability back. dell xps and razer blade laptops are slim but they have upgradability as well. Any chance apple brings back the ports? its bizarre that it's mostly creators that use the higher end macs but we dont have an sd card slot. I guess apple likes the money it makes from its dongles too much.
Totally agree about the SD card. I was convinced they'd put it into the 16" MacBook. I wouldn't even be that fussed if it needed to be a bit thicker to accommodate it. Thanks for tuning in!
Little Correction for 2:32 ...it will be 1 TB SSD and not HDD ..good work on the video bro ..subscribed 👍
Ooh, well spotted! Rookie spec geek error there 😉 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!
Hey bro wanted to ask a question about the Arm Macs. Do you have any idea if architecture softwares like Autocad, Sketchup , Archicad and Vray will work on them or I should buy the 16 MBP only. Need a new laptop for office work asap can’t wait for much time for a 16 Arm mac
It's best to check with the software vendor (they should have information on their blog or support section by now). However, most x86 applications will run on these M1 Macs anyway, in an 'emulation' mode via Rosetta. They'll look the same and 'work', but may not function quite as intended. It's a risk, I think, if you rely on the machine for work.
@@MarkEllisReviews I’ve checked it out and seems that the intel macs are more reliable as for now...thanks for your time mate 👍
@@RahilDogra No problem!
I think “professional” isn’t very subjective. A lot of people associate the word with high quality or high demands, but a professional in something is just a person who does that something as their profession. Their primary preoccupation, their living. There’s nothing about quality there, at least not explicitly. Implicitly, we learn to expect high quality work and being demanding of one’s hardware from people who do something for a living, because they usually do it well. But ultimately, professional is a ridiculous term to use as an “audience”. A professional is also a teacher, a plumber, and a shop owner - and ultimately not all professionals need stuff “for professionals”. “For professionals” in this context just means stuff that can handle demanding digital workflows. And so, instead of dividing people into hobbyists and professionals, which is insanely dismissive of what hobbyists are often times doing and creates impossible expectations for some “professionals”, it’s best to divide people into how demanding their workflows are. This is, of course, much harder and less convenient, and it’s hard to convey harder concepts on the internet without losing attention (which is also why typically non-orthodox opinions on things don’t get much attention, they usually require a good understanding of the topic you’re referring to, plus the internet loves echo chambers), but i just wanted to mention that professionalism is quite quantifiable, and not in hardware performance levels.
consider this but my own perspective on the subject
I couldn’t agree more, Simon. Being ‘professional’ at something is entirely personal, and that’s not for myself, Apple or anyone else to label. However, I’m not convinced Apple does that these days (they used to, for sure). Where there might be a disconnect is in pricing and feature set. This laptop is a brilliant tool for professional video editors, audio people, coders and photographers, but what about super keen hobbyists? It’s a big investment, and I’m not convinced there’s an alternative in the MacBook line up if you need this size screen and power. Thanks very much for commenting though - love hearing your thoughts.
@@MarkEllisReviews I’ve been thinking about a good way to word it just now, and I thought that perhaps the best way to put it is that professionalism is neither subjective nor objective, not personal or relative in a sense that implies subjectivity, but rather contextual - you can tell that a tool is a “pro” tool when someone uses it for a living, but the same thing can be used to make money as much as it can waste money for the buyer, and so the contextual part comes into play. When we’re already inside a given context - let’s say Paule Scher using an iMac for graphic design - we can definitively tell whether or not the tool is a “pro” tool. In her case, it is, but she may as well be using an iMac to watch a musical performance on RUclips. Hence, this doesn’t apply when taken out of the *full* context. I think that the best way to put it in words is by using context, because unlike similar words, it implies indirect objectivity, which is exactly how I would personally declare a tool “pro”. Ultimately, the naming schemes are there for the money, the tools themselves are there to do stuff. It’s all about who uses it, not what it is
I hope this doesn’t feel like an extra paragraph to say that grass is green, sometimes i get a bit lost in thoughts and repeat myself.. anywho, thanks for reading!
@@nuloom I love your thoughts, Simon.
@@nuloom Again - totally agree, Simon. Particularly your point about the naming scheme being there for the money. It's all marketing at the end of the day. If you think this laptop suits you, it doesn't matter _who_ you are or _what_ you do.
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Thanks, Tomaz!
Your fans will spin up when external monitor is connected, just the way it was profiled. know you know...
I read that in another review. I never connect mine to an external monitor, though 🤔
@@MarkEllisReviews do you have any external monitor to try it?
because what has been reported in several places like discussions.apple.com/thread/250943808 or forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747/
the fans will ramp up immediately when you connect to external monitors, even if you don't do anything with it.
I want to purchase 16 Macbook Pro but this issue bothers me, because my workflow utilizes a secondary monitor. what do you think?
@@ilmanakbar Thanks Ilman. I'm considering doing a video on this - keep an eye out on the channel...
@@MarkEllisReviews subscribed, and look forward to it, especially after the Big Sur released!
and probably you can try Catalina vs Big Sur to test about this, I really want to see whether Big Sur fixes this.
I think the iPad Pro mic is better!
I need to do some testing, but that’s interesting. The 16” MacBook’s mic really isn’t as impressive as some of the tech media/Apple focused experts make out.
@@MarkEllisReviews agree, I’ve recorded my voice on both devices for some videos, to me the iPad Pro sounds more clear while the 16 inch is just deeper with more bass
Warning to Buyers: the 16 inch MacBook Pro is impossible to use with an external monitor. The GPU draws too much power, then overheats from that excess power with its fans start spinning really loud. At that point, it's impossible to do any heavy work in anything like Logic Pro X or Final Cut as the MacBook Pro will severely throttle (kernel_task taking 200-1000%). There are massive threads about this issue on Apple Support forums, Macrumors, AMD forums etc. with thousands of posts.
I'm personally trying to figure out a solution but there seems to be none. Please look it up before buying this machine. Apple has maintained radio silence about this issue, similar to how they didn't acknowledge the butterfly keyboard failures/design defects in the initial few years... till they were hit with class-action lawsuits. What a mess !
Interesting. Is this the case with all external monitors? What about their pro XDR display?
@@MarkEllisReviews I've tested this with multiple 1080p & 4k monitors/TVs. Never tested it with a Pro XDR as I cannot afford a $5000 monitor (I doubt many people actually buy it either), but I'd assume the issue persists. I'd suggest trying it yourself. Simply connect an external monitor (while keeping your MacBook lid open so you have a total of 2 displays) and run some project in Logic or Final Cut Pro. Watch it overheat & throttle to death. Here's some of the forum threads documenting the issue:
discussions.apple.com/thread/250878229
forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747/
community.amd.com/thread/254736
Note: This issue hasn't even been acknowledged by Apple (typical Apple). The moderators on their support forums are also deleting posts regarding this issue.
Thanks - I'll take a look into it. I have connected it to an external monitor on occasion with no noticeable issue, although haven't used pro apps while I was doing so. As for the XDR display, I hear you - that's super-pro, and definitely has an audience, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it works flawlessly with that. It is common for Apple to avoid publicly addressing what they presumably assume to be 'edge case' issues, compared to, say, an iPhone which can't maintain a decent cellular signal. My guess is that it is absolutely something they'll be working to rectify in house. Doesn't make it any less frustrating for those affected right now, mind.
@@MarkEllisReviews The PRO XDR wasn’t even released when the 16 inch MacBook Pro came out. Apple should have tested this internally with those LG UltraFine 4k displays they sell in every Apple Store. A pro laptop should work with any off the shelf standard display. Also, had any of those big RUclipsrs, influencers or tech ‘journalists’ actually tested this laptop with an external display, instead of running some meaningless GeekBench score, they would have found out the issue.
Trust me, this defect is really massive.. maybe universal. Unfortunately, the 16 inch Mac has a very small market compared to iPhone/iPad and it’s a relatively recent product that started selling in Nov 2019.
The irony of the whole situation is I had originally purchased a 2018 15 inch MacBook Pro in Dec 2018. Over the next 1.5 years, it had multiple repeated failures (keyboard twice, display, I/O chips, charging etc.). Apple couldn’t figure out the solution. So Apple gave me a 16 inch MacBook Pro as a replacement in Aug 2020. I might sound frustrated and disillusioned because I’ve been trying to get a working laptop for the past 2 years now.
I totally understand your frustration. It's surprised me how the fan issue has dominated the comments on this video, to be honest. Hey, if you want to make some more noise about it (sounds like you've reached your wits end), shoot me a message at mark@markellisreviews.com - might be a great topic for an interview on the channel if you're up for it.
Great video mate. I just got mine and I love it! I also made a video about it. Check it out on my channel 😊
Thank you! I'll check out your channel.
Awesome video! Just what you want to watch when thinking about buying a MacBook Pro. A good honest review.
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I’m still toying with the idea of what MacBook Pro to get. I’m only a photographer so no video editing but I want something that will last me for years and any job I throw at it will be handled with ease. Just like my 2010 iMac which Finally gave up on me this week. Been a absolutely superb machine.
I’m 75% 16 Inch 25% 13 inch.
What would you recommend?
Thank you so much, Sam! As for your choice, I’d listen to that 75% - you clearly want that one more, and if the price is within your budget, it’ll be a great investment. Just keep in mind the ‘portability’. It’s not un-portable, but the 13” does suit people more who need to get out and edit, etc, on the move more.
@@MarkEllisReviews Hi Mark,
Thank you for your feedback. Went with the standard top end 16 inch in the end. Absolutely love it!!! Superb machine!
@@samwinslow2361 Awesome - enjoy!
are you the cousin of Johnny Ivy?
Nope, but we do have the same haircut.
kilimanjaro?
Ooh you’ve lost me there, Luke 🤔
You talk too Mich
I’m not for everyone. But thanks for tuning in and giving me some of your time.
How come people had accepted heat in MBPs normal? Mine heats up when connected to external monitor. Not even 2 external fans can blow thr heat off. Pathetic. MBP 16 is such a trash. Apple is such a trash. I've seen some of these issues are software related and Apple have not fixed them for years now. These are issues that you'll rarely encounter in "cheap" windows laptop. How's that? Lol.
Most of us customers never accepted it. It's an absolute junk laptop and we've been complaining to Apple Support, Apple Advisors & Apple Engg. Department. Apple has totally denied this problem (as expected). But we gotta spread the word about this issue. Forums, reddit, twitter, wherever we can.
forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-an-external-monitor.2211747/page-203
@@bloodlustuponme Gosh why are they like that. I'm experiencing throttling already as it reaches 100 C even with turbo boost turned off. I'm not even into rendering stuff.
@@jelloace3097 It's very difficult to fight a trillion dollar company as a consumer. Even if you look at Apple's track record with the MacBook in the past 5 years, every Macbook has been severely defective; Butterfly keyboards, DisplayGate, MBA heatsink design, T2 chip USB bus audio defect etc. Apple is quite arrogant and won't accept this till consumers raise their voices loud.
As to our problem, there's no real 'solution'. I do have some workarounds that could potentially help you. If you'd like, please leave me your email or any other way to contact you as I don't think I can PM you on RUclips directly.
@@bloodlustuponme I like to hear about your workaround. My main problem is with the heat esp when external monitor is added. GPU wattage jumps to 20 watts. Pls send them here jelloace.inyourfish@gmail.com
Can i get a like from you ?