The ridiculous fact is that here in Greece the base Model 16inch is 3000 Euros and the higher tier model is 3400 Euros. It is more economical to fly to the US and back and purchase it than to buy it from a local shop.
I have the base model, and I’ve never had a computer before, so I literally can’t imagine a computer being faster than the one I have now. This thing is a beast!
Super Saiyan 3 You would be fine with the base gpu and 16gb ram if you’re editing at 1080p. If you end up needing a more juicy gpu you can always hook up an external gpu.
Idk why but I love the Intel 16” MBP. It’s the only really good high-end MacBook, especially in terms of graphics, that Apple made ever since the mid-2015 (up until Apple silicon ofc). It’s also the last machine with this beautiful thin and lightweight design, which I believe Apple could have kept around due to the efficiency of Apple silicon.
You say 32GB ram helps, but AFAIK, you haven't explicitly tested the importance of more RAM. The importance of more RAM will likely show in real world usage, using and switching between multiple applications.
@@taylorking4358 I have 32gb of ram and having after effects open basically destroys my pc lol. Can't even have browser tabs open sometimes. Tbf, I think Adobe apps are horrendously optimized and have major bugs all the time so there's that
if this shows anything, its the fact that the base 5300M is super solid. Beating Vega 20 and pretty close to 5500m. Nice change in the pro lineup, actually offers a good value proposition in the 16" this year. Awesome!
Could've bought a car with the money of these two combined. Not that you really need another car, or if that really matters. This comment is pointless.
Bro I make videos full time and we got nearly the same exact configuration! Mine arrives Monday. I got your config but with 2TB cause dang 4k footage takes up so much!
The Mercado Channel external drive amigo! That’s why I use, over the past 2 years I’ve only used a total of 1.2tb and that includes other stuff like software, games, music, movies and shows. Along with all my filmed footage
Hey Luke! Excellent videos as always. A bit of constructive (hopefully!) feedback, as an iOS developer the video editing centric comparisons are not as applicable to me. In future videos, could you include a compile time comparison? Firefox compile is an easy one. Or since this is a Mac centric channel, an Xcode compile of some type? Thank you for the awesome content as usual! Cheers!
+1 here! So many RUclipsrs focus on video rendering. It makes sense, as that is what they think about all day. But as a developer I want to know if the i9 is worth it over the i7. Thanks for the great video!
They are probably going to announce it next month at a 14 inch model. so, if anyone reads this. wait a little a see what they end up doing with the 14. Theyll make sure that the 2016 is still the preferred purchase for those that need it tho. the 14 inch will be good for everything but video editing at 4K im betting.
Apple almost delivered an adequate base model here. Almost. The issue is the RAM, only 16 GB and NOT upgradable (that last part is key here). And the upgrade to 32 GB is very overpriced.
Timur Tripp I got the base model and the only thing that worries me is the 16gb. It’s been surprisingly fine even in after effects, but already hitting the limit. $400 for a $70 chip just seems unfair.
Well, you're not just paying for a regular piece of RAM. It's all soldered on, and only made if ordered, so you're paying for that too. You can't add more after the fact.
@@Scott__C Not a reason it can't be priced similarly to a regular stick of RAM (or slightly higher, say $200), as they are simply substituting one set of chips for another. Apple makes good products, but the $400 for 32 GB is pure greed while the GPU and 1 TB SSD prices are actually reasonable.
you really don't need a terabyte to edit 4K footage (internal 1tb is what you meant I assume). What does 4K even mean? GoPro shoots 4K and so does Lumix G7 and MBPCC4K. You could be shooting BRAW and getting smaller sizes than a 422 prores shooting 2K. Just the resolution doesn't matter bro :) Also, external SSD for editing any footage is a better idea than do it all in the Macbook Pro. Source: Been editing 4K footage on macbook pros since 2015
Luke.. love the content. The videography is great... the audio... not so much. It’s time to get a directional mic and put up some sound deadening. The echo is kind of rough on your audio.
i have a 1080ti/ i7 8700k gaming pc so im just gonna go for the cheaper model cuz all ima use that macbook pro is to watch youtube, shopping, small work stuff, pay bills and download music and gonna finally upgrade from my 2014 model
Absolutely no one on RUclips tested the 5500M with 4GB of VRAM (the base i9 version). That’s the one I have and it scored well (over 3400) on cinebench. But I’m curious how it stacks up!
The 2.3GHZ->2.4GHZ isn't really about the % increase of performance, it is more to do with the 2.4GHZ being a better bin than the 2.3GHZ and thus they tend to have lower temps and thus throttle less.
Very comprehensive video. Was definitely wondering if I needed all of that RAM and storage, but this definitely sold me on a cheaper Mac. Thanks a bunch!
I more or less bought your $3,300 custom one but with 2 TB SSD. Runs like a dream! Big upgrade from my Mid 2012 MBP. I would recommend that everyone in the market for a new MBP now upgrade to 32 gigs of RAM. Sure 16 gigs might be fine for your needs now, but that might not be the case in a couple of years.
I went with 2.3GHz i9, 32GB of RAM, 4GB 5500 Radeon, 2TB SSD. THIS THING IS A BEAST OVER MY MID 2015 MACBOOK!!! I work in an IT department and run a lot of VMs for testing environments. Having the storage space without relatively paying an arm or leg is AMAZING! I love not having to lug around or connect external SSD anymore for some of my lesser used VMs. Windows 10 VMs are super smooth and responsive! Not only that but I've been slowly ripping all my DVDs and Blu-Ray discs and adding them to my NAS. This thing cuts through that task like butter!
So I disappeared down the rabbit hole of your mac videos, ached to buy a shiny new 16" MBP.....then decided to get a new battery put in my 2011 MBP, put an SSD and more RAM in my 2008MBP to use whilst that happened and bought a 2nd hand iMac to do 360 video edits on. Saved 2K . Thanks for ALL the info, really useful, particularly pointing out how good older macs are, the ones I can afford.....
Me: clicks on video to find out if base model is good enough ... You: "base model is probably good" "But going i9 is a good idea" "And if you do that, go to the upper tier, don't upgrade the base model" "And the GPU vram upgrade is a no brainier" "That ram upgrade is expensive, but you should go ahead and get that" ... Me: exactly as conflicted as I was when I got here. Thanks bro
You missed me 😔😂 My comment wasn’t here on RUclips, it was on Twitter. First I guessed i9 8core, 32 GB of RAM, 5500M 8 GB and 1 TB of SSD. One day later I corrected to i9 2,3 GHz because I forgot the 2,4 i9 option (it’s so pointless I didn’t even remembered). But still was guessed correctly. Enjoy your machine, I would pick that exact same config.
I got the base model 16inch. I upgraded from a 2011 MacBook Pro. This was a total difference for me!!! Now I feel like its a Ferrari compared to my 2011 Toyota camry. I love my new computer I'm watching you through it. love the speakers and love the keyboard....
ACE112ACE112 This is rather subjective. what laptop would you suggest as an alternative? This competes very well with the Dell XPS 15 even though on paper that has higher specs. It’s all about the actual user experience.
John Wheeler I wouldn’t recommend the xps 15. I bought a nearly maxed out one in 2016 and it ran into several issues just like ones mentioned in reviews on Dell’s website. 3 years later and it’s apparent the build quality is not justified for a 2k+ price tag. I’m about to switch to this mbp for its reliability
woslyer I was replying to ACE12ACE12’s post saying the MBP is not worth the price. I’ve also seen some negative reviews of t he Dell that show even the previous MBP performing better despite having worse specs on paper. i’ve just ordered a 16” MBP for dev ops & photo/video editing, and hope my research has been accurate!
We are ordering every spec maxed out including 8TB. In Canada this costs around $7,600. Only thing we settled on was the middle option Radeon 5500 w 8GB GDDR6
There is no denying that Apple products, including this one, are well-made and easy to use. The Macbook base model is very overpriced. The $3,300 Macbook Pro model is designed and priced to make you think that by buying the base model you are getting a steal. The overly priced the Macbook Pro knowing that most people are not going to buy anyway. But it makes the overly priced base model like a great bargain.
Everything about your videos is top class except the sound since you moved to the new space (it has a slight hiss and echo). It doesn’t bother me but would love to see your channel grow and make you some of those well deserved RUclips dollars. Go get it son and thanks for such great work!
I need a new laptop...my 2011 17 “ MacBook Pro died after owning it for 9 years now! Saving money to get the 2019 model. Definitely getting the higher end model with 32gb ram!
Thanks a lot Luke for doing all the work and sharing this video. Would you think that the i7 base model with 32gb RAM upgrade is enough for video editing or the i9 with base specs would be better? I would be using FCPX for editing FHD videos and probably a little bit of 4K. I also only do video edits as a hobby. I’m not much worried about the storage as I am planning to get an external SSD to save files. I just can’t decide if I should go for a 6 core i7 + 32gb ram or 8 core i9 + 16gb ram for my usage. Also the comparison you made with the graphics cards were pretty helpful, it at least made my decision on that part easier now. I would appreciate your expert advice and suggestions. Keep up the great work and God bless!
That exact same configuration costs $4,235 in the UK because of how Apple don't even pretend to use the exchange rate. They just change the currency symbol. The $2,799 Macbook is £2,799 ($3,592)
I only got 16gb of ram with my 2018 MBP and wish I'd bought more, for me it struggles with After effects. Obviously once you've bought the configuration you're stuck with it for good so choose wisely. Apple prices for ram are ridiculous though.
How did you know that you needed more RAM? You said you were using 12-14GB RAM with the base model but considering MacOS uses any RAM you put in it it's really not a good indicator. If you for some reason had 256GB RAM it might use 220GB and so on... that doesn't mean you suddenly need more RAM, it just means it's using whatever it has.
Luke, someone else did a comparison and the main difference in the graphics is that in graphics programs like Blender the 8GB VRAM there is a noticeable performance gain.
I use these everyday both personally and in my porfolio companies. For everyday workflow (internet, email, Slack, productivity), they are 100% usuable with no noticeable lag or performance hit.
I ended up ordering the same spec as you, but opted for the maxxed out processor. I’m planning to put the extra money for storage into a thunderbolt 3 storage drive/nas later down the line.
Every reviewer ever: "You're basically fine with the base model" Also every reviewer ever: *buys really high spec macbook every time without fail 8gb of VRAM is a life saviour in 3D applications where project rely on GPU to have everything stored and instantly available. It's leaps ahead of 4gb, which was little even 2 years ago.. 32gb of VRAM is also great if you're doing heavy photo editing or large video productions or just have more production programs open at the same time. It's really easy to have 20+gb of RAM used, we're just used to 16gb and adapt around its limitations. So - I think his personal macbook is very well specked and it'll hold its value very well because of that.
Well for my base model with 16gb of ram, I have some hope for 4k video editing since I could edit some short pieces of 4k video in the MacBook Air with 8gb ram,and even put it some effects. Since FCPX doesn't suck so much ram, I hope this base model lasts a few good years.
I got the 64G and 1TB version. Looking back after 2 years of using, I would say the 10% performance increase shouldn't be THAT expensive. The base model is the best!
_"100MHz base clock, 200MHz boost clock - you're not going to notice the difference."_ Until two years from now when the minimum support specs on your favorite applications read "Minimum requirement: 2.4GHz". Doh! If you're doing it right, $200 is effortless insurance. Couple hundred bucks? A non-issue. GET THE FASTER PROCS!
Finally I can stop watching and wishing I had a MacBook Pro... just bought my first MacBook Pro 16 inch from B&H photo. Got the $2799 model for $2499! Fantastic!
Please help! I need a computer for editing RUclips videos and learning photo editing in LR and PS. My 2 choices are : A: get a 16gb, i5 512 13” And sell it when the 14” is released or B: get the base model 16”
I see every reason to get the specs that you got Luke. That's what a person on the go would need for completing their work while on the go. Thank you for the review.
Did research for 4-5 weeks on buying a MacBook Pro. I ordered one 4 days ago but I made the mistake of upgrading to the i9 on the $2400 version (I didn’t know there was another i9 option until I actually looked lol). 2 days after ordering I called Apple support and canceled the order so I could buy the better option. Coincidence that I chose the exact same hardware as yours, without seeing this video haha.
4:32 What is the name of benchmark? What do these numbers represent? This is the only time in my life that I realize how important it is to always add the title of the graph
9:15 if you just want the answer
Diego Oliveira you the real MVP
Ah! Thank you SO MUCH
You're doing God's work, son.
Not all hero’s wear capes...unless you do wear a cape....then I would call you a super-hero 🙌🏾
I skipped to the answer and immediately got a fuggin wikibuy ad...
The ridiculous fact is that here in Greece the base Model 16inch is 3000 Euros and the higher tier model is 3400 Euros. It is more economical to fly to the US and back and purchase it than to buy it from a local shop.
Keep in mind US pricing always excludes taxes
@@makebabidotes Then go to a tax-free state like Oregon
@@makebabidotes i guess that even with the taxes it will be cheaper
In Brazil, the base 16 inch costs 5000 dollars. It’s literally cheaper to go to us and buy it
Henry Brasil e seus preços bizarros
Watching now. Regardless of the results, THANK YOU for making this. This was the comparison I was looking for before purchase.
So what was your purchase? I have the base i9 standard config in hand and wondering if I should return for +4gb Vram and 32gb Ram
Mee tooo Have the same comment Mr. DPhoto
Me too. I've been on the fence about making this purchase and making the upgrades.
You need 32 GB Ram if you are going to use google chrome.
Alex Use the Great Suspender! It’s totally changed how I use my Mac. I have over 250 tabs open currently and have about 9 GB of ram free.
Jordan Banko Cheers dude 😁
That ram is 5 times more expensive than normal ram
@Alex, true.
*64 GB
I have the base model, and I’ve never had a computer before, so I literally can’t imagine a computer being faster than the one I have now. This thing is a beast!
Super Saiyan 3 You would be fine with the base gpu and 16gb ram if you’re editing at 1080p. If you end up needing a more juicy gpu you can always hook up an external gpu.
Hell ya man! Beasts of a computer. Congrats!
Can we say a prayer for all of the people that bought the old 2019 mbp's more than 2 weeks before this one came out.
there fault
Jake there were rumors it was coming out. That’s their fault for not waiting.
I’m buying one now, even after seeing the 16 inch. My opinion regarding the keyboard is just opposite of everyone else’s: I love the Butterfly.
@@abubakrakram6208 then there is something severely wrong with you.
@@JurassicF4rt What nice and completely reasonable thing to say. Not at all irate or impulsive!
Idk why but I love the Intel 16” MBP. It’s the only really good high-end MacBook, especially in terms of graphics, that Apple made ever since the mid-2015 (up until Apple silicon ofc). It’s also the last machine with this beautiful thin and lightweight design, which I believe Apple could have kept around due to the efficiency of Apple silicon.
You say 32GB ram helps, but AFAIK, you haven't explicitly tested the importance of more RAM. The importance of more RAM will likely show in real world usage, using and switching between multiple applications.
After effects user here... 64gb of ram isn’t even enough
@@taylorking4358 I have 32gb of ram and having after effects open basically destroys my pc lol. Can't even have browser tabs open sometimes. Tbf, I think Adobe apps are horrendously optimized and have major bugs all the time so there's that
if this shows anything, its the fact that the base 5300M is super solid. Beating Vega 20 and pretty close to 5500m. Nice change in the pro lineup, actually offers a good value proposition in the 16" this year. Awesome!
Could've bought a car with the money of these two combined.
Not that you really need another car, or if that really matters.
This comment is pointless.
Pointless as hell just like this comment.
pointless indeed.
I agree
Someone spending 3000 on a laptop already has a car that probably cost 10-15 times of that or more.
He also could've bought 165 blenders instead
Bro I make videos full time and we got nearly the same exact configuration! Mine arrives Monday. I got your config but with 2TB cause dang 4k footage takes up so much!
Are you a creator that keeps all
Your footage or upload and delete from storage just curious thanks my friend
A nice external ssd would do fine for much cheaper
seeing you here was so unexpected
The Mercado Channel external drive amigo! That’s why I use, over the past 2 years I’ve only used a total of 1.2tb and that includes other stuff like software, games, music, movies and shows. Along with all my filmed footage
Storage is the last problem, we can buy an external ssd, the real problem is the ram, because is not expandable
At 7:05 you mixed the stock with the upgraded model 😅
ikr
Nikos Yiannos I also noticed that 👍🏻
Same here ... Had to rewind and replay 😂😂😂
he changed the wallpaper 😂😂😂
okay cool because I rewatched that like 3 times trying to understand😂
Thanks for the review! I chose the Base model 16” today on sale at BB for $2099! over the new $1799 13”
What is the specs on ur macbook ? , i want one for final cut pro for youtube vids ( pls answer)
Here in Canada we would call that a Double-Double MacBook pro... 🍁
But that option is only available at Tim Hortons
I don’t get it
@@ragnarlothbrok2810 2 sugar 2 cream , in our coffee from Tim Hortons
32gb might seem excessive but lets say in 4 years you might need it.
It's just Moore's Law. I bought a "badass" MBP in 2012, with 8GB RAM. It's laughable now, and I max out with just FCP and Chrome!
@@jordanescapes7790 So...you spend all this money to run Chrome? Uhm...
@@espacemaxim Chrome is required for work programs, so yes. I still enjoy bank deposits despite my super cool 8 year old laptop.
16gb should be fine for at least 4-5 years, Apple is great at optimisation
Hey Luke! Excellent videos as always. A bit of constructive (hopefully!) feedback, as an iOS developer the video editing centric comparisons are not as applicable to me. In future videos, could you include a compile time comparison? Firefox compile is an easy one. Or since this is a Mac centric channel, an Xcode compile of some type? Thank you for the awesome content as usual! Cheers!
Kevin Newbury agreed! I’d be interested in that also.
Me too I’m only 10 years old but I’m really good at iOS development
+1 here. I believe there's next to nothing of greater value for us developers than such tests! :)
Ahmad Shariq and so modest :-)
+1 here! So many RUclipsrs focus on video rendering. It makes sense, as that is what they think about all day. But as a developer I want to know if the i9 is worth it over the i7. Thanks for the great video!
Is 64gb worth the money or 32gb is sufficient? This is my question.
Thanks
I ordered the same customised model! Figured the ram would be more future proof and wanted something that could handle 4K video editing easily
Is everything going good with your customized model? Just asking because I'm looking to get that model also.
hopefully Apple can refresh the 13’ MacBook Pro with the new magic keyboard and if they do, I plan on buying it.
Robert Aguilera probably will take 6 months
They are probably going to announce it next month at a 14 inch model. so, if anyone reads this. wait a little a see what they end up doing with the 14. Theyll make sure that the 2016 is still the preferred purchase for those that need it tho. the 14 inch will be good for everything but video editing at 4K im betting.
$400 for an extra 16 GB of RAM is highway robbery. It should be maximum $200. Or they could make it upgradeable like a proper pro machine.
Apple almost delivered an adequate base model here. Almost. The issue is the RAM, only 16 GB and NOT upgradable (that last part is key here). And the upgrade to 32 GB is very overpriced.
Timur Tripp I got the base model and the only thing that worries me is the 16gb. It’s been surprisingly fine even in after effects, but already hitting the limit. $400 for a $70 chip just seems unfair.
Ian G I’d return it and upgrade if still possible. I’m always running out of ram on my MBP. Would get 32 GB in a hearbeat
$400 for 32GB of ram is definitely overpriced.
Well, you're not just paying for a regular piece of RAM. It's all soldered on, and only made if ordered, so you're paying for that too. You can't add more after the fact.
@@Scott__C Not a reason it can't be priced similarly to a regular stick of RAM (or slightly higher, say $200), as they are simply substituting one set of chips for another. Apple makes good products, but the $400 for 32 GB is pure greed while the GPU and 1 TB SSD prices are actually reasonable.
Thanks for the comparison! I have been looking for a while on a comparison between the base and upgraded model, this helps a lot.
you really don't need a terabyte to edit 4K footage (internal 1tb is what you meant I assume). What does 4K even mean? GoPro shoots 4K and so does Lumix G7 and MBPCC4K. You could be shooting BRAW and getting smaller sizes than a 422 prores shooting 2K. Just the resolution doesn't matter bro :)
Also, external SSD for editing any footage is a better idea than do it all in the Macbook Pro. Source: Been editing 4K footage on macbook pros since 2015
if only ram upgrade was not this inappropriate, I'd have decided already my configuration.
Luke.. love the content. The videography is great... the audio... not so much. It’s time to get a directional mic and put up some sound deadening. The echo is kind of rough on your audio.
With 32 gigs ram and upgraded graphics you'll will have a higher resale value if you decide to sale your Macbook in the future.
Brilliant video Luke!
i have a 1080ti/ i7 8700k gaming pc so im just gonna go for the cheaper model cuz all ima use that macbook pro is to watch youtube, shopping, small work stuff, pay bills and download music and gonna finally upgrade from my 2014 model
Absolutely no one on RUclips tested the 5500M with 4GB of VRAM (the base i9 version). That’s the one I have and it scored well (over 3400) on cinebench. But I’m curious how it stacks up!
The 2.3GHZ->2.4GHZ isn't really about the % increase of performance, it is more to do with the 2.4GHZ being a better bin than the 2.3GHZ and thus they tend to have lower temps and thus throttle less.
Excelente video. Saludos desde Panamá 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦
Kudos to your taste in background music! Smooth, catchy shit!
It was worth it to me. I will probably keep this computer for 3-4 years so future proofing it is worth it.
Just made a design comparison video featuring the first generation MacBook Pro and the 16" model. The 16" really is a great machine.
Very comprehensive video. Was definitely wondering if I needed all of that RAM and storage, but this definitely sold me on a cheaper Mac. Thanks a bunch!
I more or less bought your $3,300 custom one but with 2 TB SSD. Runs like a dream! Big upgrade from my Mid 2012 MBP.
I would recommend that everyone in the market for a new MBP now upgrade to 32 gigs of RAM. Sure 16 gigs might be fine for your needs now, but that might not be the case in a couple of years.
I went with 2.3GHz i9, 32GB of RAM, 4GB 5500 Radeon, 2TB SSD. THIS THING IS A BEAST OVER MY MID 2015 MACBOOK!!! I work in an IT department and run a lot of VMs for testing environments. Having the storage space without relatively paying an arm or leg is AMAZING! I love not having to lug around or connect external SSD anymore for some of my lesser used VMs. Windows 10 VMs are super smooth and responsive! Not only that but I've been slowly ripping all my DVDs and Blu-Ray discs and adding them to my NAS. This thing cuts through that task like butter!
I use parallels also for windows 10, do you think 16GB will last me 3 or more years? I am an structural engineer or I need 32 GB???
The 5500M upgrade is great for more VRAM demanding workloads, for example Blender benefits a lot from the extra 4GB of VRAM
Super helpful! Upgrading from my 2013 retina MBP and weighing the upgrades. Thank you! Subscribed!
So I disappeared down the rabbit hole of your mac videos, ached to buy a shiny new 16" MBP.....then decided to get a new battery put in my 2011 MBP, put an SSD and more RAM in my 2008MBP to use whilst that happened and bought a 2nd hand iMac to do 360 video edits on. Saved 2K . Thanks for ALL the info, really useful, particularly pointing out how good older macs are, the ones I can afford.....
Great, I ordered MPB 2019, i9 2.3GHz, 32 GB, 5500/8, 2TB. I ordered it for 3.799€ via Alternate.de (Apple.de you pay 4.279,00 €) - saving 480€!
Me: clicks on video to find out if base model is good enough
...
You:
"base model is probably good"
"But going i9 is a good idea"
"And if you do that, go to the upper tier, don't upgrade the base model"
"And the GPU vram upgrade is a no brainier"
"That ram upgrade is expensive, but you should go ahead and get that"
...
Me: exactly as conflicted as I was when I got here.
Thanks bro
You deserve more subscribers, your videos are really good!
You missed me 😔😂
My comment wasn’t here on RUclips, it was on Twitter.
First I guessed i9 8core, 32 GB of RAM, 5500M 8 GB and 1 TB of SSD. One day later I corrected to i9 2,3 GHz because I forgot the 2,4 i9 option (it’s so pointless I didn’t even remembered).
But still was guessed correctly.
Enjoy your machine, I would pick that exact same config.
I got the base model 16inch. I upgraded from a 2011 MacBook Pro. This was a total difference for me!!! Now I feel like its a Ferrari compared to my 2011 Toyota camry. I love my new computer I'm watching you through it. love the speakers and love the keyboard....
If I were to get this the only upgrade I would do is the GPU. Everything else seems fine to me
It's still not worth the price
ACE112ACE112 This is rather subjective. what laptop would you suggest as an alternative? This competes very well with the Dell XPS 15 even though on paper that has higher specs. It’s all about the actual user experience.
Sidfluence I would do the ram if I only had one option
John Wheeler I wouldn’t recommend the xps 15. I bought a nearly maxed out one in 2016 and it ran into several issues just like ones mentioned in reviews on Dell’s website. 3 years later and it’s apparent the build quality is not justified for a 2k+ price tag. I’m about to switch to this mbp for its reliability
woslyer I was replying to ACE12ACE12’s post saying the MBP is not worth the price. I’ve also seen some negative reviews of t he Dell that show even the previous MBP performing better despite having worse specs on paper. i’ve just ordered a 16” MBP for dev ops & photo/video editing, and hope my research has been accurate!
Really nice comparison! I really need help from you Luke! You are amazing!
Lol $1000 for 10% increase performance
We are ordering every spec maxed out including 8TB. In Canada this costs around $7,600. Only thing we settled on was the middle option Radeon 5500 w 8GB GDDR6
There is no denying that Apple products, including this one, are well-made and easy to use. The Macbook base model is very overpriced. The $3,300 Macbook Pro model is designed and priced to make you think that by buying the base model you are getting a steal. The overly priced the Macbook Pro knowing that most people are not going to buy anyway. But it makes the overly priced base model like a great bargain.
Awesome video! You are the king of MacBooks, undoubtedly!
don't forget if your a student you can get $200 off the base model 16" pro or a discount on a lot of products
would love to see a comparison with the 16” and the 2016 15”
I have both actually and that's a great idea!
This is the video I have been looking for!!
I'm currently loving the base model... I'm not sure if I'll upgrade or not. I haven't noticed any limitations of the 16gb of RAM just yet...
I did the same but at the last minute thought "screw it" and went for 64GB RAM haha
Jamie Melville TV is it worth it?
I just ordered the $2799 model for $2499.. so definitely worth getting that over the base model even on sale.
Everything about your videos is top class except the sound since you moved to the new space (it has a slight hiss and echo). It doesn’t bother me but would love to see your channel grow and make you some of those well deserved RUclips dollars. Go get it son and thanks for such great work!
That “lets find out” cringe 1:16 😂
I need a new laptop...my 2011 17 “ MacBook Pro died after owning it for 9 years now! Saving money to get the 2019 model. Definitely getting the higher end model with 32gb ram!
lmao 1:14 made me laugh out loud in the library
I WONDER WHY 😧
Thanks a lot Luke for doing all the work and sharing this video. Would you think that the i7 base model with 32gb RAM upgrade is enough for video editing or the i9 with base specs would be better? I would be using FCPX for editing FHD videos and probably a little bit of 4K. I also only do video edits as a hobby. I’m not much worried about the storage as I am planning to get an external SSD to save files. I just can’t decide if I should go for a 6 core i7 + 32gb ram or 8 core i9 + 16gb ram for my usage.
Also the comparison you made with the graphics cards were pretty helpful, it at least made my decision on that part easier now.
I would appreciate your expert advice and suggestions.
Keep up the great work and God bless!
That exact same configuration costs $4,235 in the UK because of how Apple don't even pretend to use the exchange rate. They just change the currency symbol. The $2,799 Macbook is £2,799 ($3,592)
I only got 16gb of ram with my 2018 MBP and wish I'd bought more, for me it struggles with After effects. Obviously once you've bought the configuration you're stuck with it for good so choose wisely. Apple prices for ram are ridiculous though.
I tried the basic one and the custom highest one, neither of them could change the crazy fan noise and heating surface. Checked.
I got your custom with 64gb ram, super happy having upgraded from a 2011 MBP....
How did you know that you needed more RAM? You said you were using 12-14GB RAM with the base model but considering MacOS uses any RAM you put in it it's really not a good indicator. If you for some reason had 256GB RAM it might use 220GB and so on... that doesn't mean you suddenly need more RAM, it just means it's using whatever it has.
I ordered exactly the same configuration and now just see this video. Simply wow!
Luke, someone else did a comparison and the main difference in the graphics is that in graphics programs like Blender the 8GB VRAM there is a noticeable performance gain.
Great video... much appreciated.
Can you please make a video called "is a 12inch macbool still worth it in 2019?" Would gladly appreciate if you did.
I use these everyday both personally and in my porfolio companies. For everyday workflow (internet, email, Slack, productivity), they are 100% usuable with no noticeable lag or performance hit.
@@alliejr thanks for the reply.
2:20 how can it use more if you got 16GB? put there 32GB and it will use more ..
I ended up ordering the same spec as you, but opted for the maxxed out processor. I’m planning to put the extra money for storage into a thunderbolt 3 storage drive/nas later down the line.
Every reviewer ever: "You're basically fine with the base model"
Also every reviewer ever: *buys really high spec macbook every time without fail
8gb of VRAM is a life saviour in 3D applications where project rely on GPU to have everything stored and instantly available. It's leaps ahead of 4gb, which was little even 2 years ago..
32gb of VRAM is also great if you're doing heavy photo editing or large video productions or just have more production programs open at the same time. It's really easy to have 20+gb of RAM used, we're just used to 16gb and adapt around its limitations. So - I think his personal macbook is very well specked and it'll hold its value very well because of that.
AMO - Always Max Out. He could've done better.
Well for my base model with 16gb of ram, I have some hope for 4k video editing since I could edit some short pieces of 4k video in the MacBook Air with 8gb ram,and even put it some effects. Since FCPX doesn't suck so much ram, I hope this base model lasts a few good years.
i7 32gb ram 1tb ssd 5300M 4gb the best set up? As in it will run cold 🥶 so it can beat the higher spec when those run super hot 🥵?
I got the 64G and 1TB version. Looking back after 2 years of using, I would say the 10% performance increase shouldn't be THAT expensive. The base model is the best!
Didn't see this video or the videos before this one, but I came to the same conclusion with my MacBook Pro 16" configuration.
An excellent review tackling a question many users are facing when taking a plunge in the new 16inch Macbooks. Thanks alot!
Ur configuration is excatly what I would buy，and I think 80% people that went for upgrades are looking at this
_"100MHz base clock, 200MHz boost clock - you're not going to notice the difference."_
Until two years from now when the minimum support specs on your favorite applications read "Minimum requirement: 2.4GHz".
Doh!
If you're doing it right, $200 is effortless insurance. Couple hundred bucks? A non-issue. GET THE FASTER PROCS!
Orangeman Cometh it doesn't matter, it will reduce frequency due to heat. Then they will perform same
Great Video man. Do the fans kick in more often on the i9 compared to the i7? And is the 32gb ram worth it?
i customized it the same way!!! base model upgrade ram, upgrade graphics and 1 tb!
The prices of Apple in Europe are ridiculous compared to US prices.
Very educational video regarding to buy which one for what porpoises. Thank you for your effort and giving us all that information.
Personally, I’ve always found the “middle” option to be the best bang for your buck. There’s a very real case of diminishing returns with upgrades.
No
The i9 option in the base model has higher clock than the $2799 model. If you choose same options for both models, the price is exactly the same.
Just bought a base model 16 Mac Pro with your link... thanks for the great info and allowing me to make an educated buying decision! Cheers
How is the RAM usage? Is 32GB neccessary?
Finally I can stop watching and wishing I had a MacBook Pro... just bought my first MacBook Pro 16 inch from B&H photo. Got the $2799 model for $2499! Fantastic!
Hey I’m interested in that deal can you tell me where I can find it?, thanks !
Thank you for the amazing videos. I LOVE when you make these types of videos and they motivate me every single day.
is there any difference in the fan noise between i7 and i9 models?
Please help! I need a computer for editing RUclips videos and learning photo editing in LR and PS. My 2 choices are :
A: get a 16gb, i5 512 13”
And sell it when the 14” is released or
B: get the base model 16”
Kevin Josephs i think if you not need big screen 13 inch 2.4ghz 16 gb ram is worth it you have more speed from base model 1.4ghz and fast SSD
Should i upgrade mine from Macbook Pro 15 inch 2016 to this Macbook Pro 2019 16’ ?
shadxxgray_ i think yes because first you become new keyboard and big screen and with strong graphics card i think worth it
thet base model is always the most worthy to buy
no doubt
I see every reason to get the specs that you got Luke. That's what a person on the go would need for completing their work while on the go. Thank you for the review.
Did research for 4-5 weeks on buying a MacBook Pro. I ordered one 4 days ago but I made the mistake of upgrading to the i9 on the $2400 version (I didn’t know there was another i9 option until I actually looked lol). 2 days after ordering I called Apple support and canceled the order so I could buy the better option. Coincidence that I chose the exact same hardware as yours, without seeing this video haha.
Just bought this same exact setup. Solid video.
im watching on the samsung chromebook worth 99$ lol =))
Wow with those specs the MacBook Pro 16" costs 3824€ ($4290) in Germany....
4:32 What is the name of benchmark? What do these numbers represent? This is the only time in my life that I realize how important it is to always add the title of the graph