You Can't Love Animals and Eat Them | Change My Mind
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How can Ed call himself Vegan when he just slaughtered this boy in front of the camera?!
😂😂😂😂😂 nice
I think this is a good video, the guy in the start. Still watching... Not sure if you saw someone else. I saw two adults having two different opinions, that are very respectful to one another.
@@amandathegreat6195 ever heard the word "sarcasm"? :))
We finally found it -- *this* is the "humane slaughter" animal-eaters keep talking about.
Respect++++++++++
This is a clever way to avoid being the pushy vegan. You're inviting meat-eaters to shove their opinions down your throat and then you make them reconsider their position.
Depends what you call pushy. LOL Just being a vegan can be considered pushy to those who consider them a threat to their "pleasure"
Exactly!
In an open dialogue, no one is shoving anyone's opinion down anyone's throat!
@juanete Ed literally says in this video that he hates the idea of calling people who eat meat, "bad people." It doesn't help the argument, and closes people off from discussion.
@Roger No, they're no psychopathic people - they're apathetic and selfish, but not bad. That is a lazy, normative way of thinking that serves very little purpose. I think the idea is that if you tell someone that they're "bad," there is little motivation or reason for them then to change. But if we hold the idea that someone is at nature compassionate but is making bad choices, change is still an option. Calling people monsters and psychopaths serves only to further entrench the people who are apathetic in their negatively impactful habits and lifestyles. There are people who make good and bad decisions, but very very rarely are there ever, in my opinion, bad (to the core) people. We all have a negative impact on living things around us, maybe not intentionally, but we do. We are not BAD because of it, but we are not good either. Expand your idea of what it means to use such simple words to describe something so complex..
Ed's ability to say 'that's a really good question' when faced with a really dumb question is admirable.
Definiteley a lifeskill 😅
Would you care to give an example of what was the dumb question? I think all the questions he desribed as GOOD were infact GOOD questions. If they seem "DUMB" to you, it is probably because the answer is very essential. So if you dont KNOW this essential answer, it is a VERY GOOD question, that is trying to get such answer.
Agree Petr he thinks it's a good point because it's something Ed wants to address haha
@@burnedflowers141 And that makes it a good question... I mean, imagine in physics class, I can ask about why at a quantum level, the paired particles can behave contrary to our notion of cause and effect... And you say "What a great question, we unfortunately dont know"... so yeah, you asked about something that is an open problem... does it mean its a good question? No. It just means you are smart and on top of the game.
If however I ask in the same class, how come we dont fly off the earth, that shows im dumb as a rock and didnt listen to the teacher for probably half the lessons before... But that means I dont know something extremely basic, which I should know. To understand my deficiency and ask that question to get the information I so desperately need is a GREAT question...
That is my point.
@@Pellaeon159 Well, you're basically saying that there's no such thing as a stupid question. Which is I agree with, in part. At least you're looking for answers. Or perhaps you're simply looking for excuses and cop outs with the questions you ask and aren't really looking to take the answer into account.
The more I hear these people try to debate ed, the more I know I’ve made the right decisions to become Vegan.
Ed seems to explain it pretty perfectly. If I wasn’t already vegan, he would have convinced me.
I think a good question we can ask ourselves is if we were vulnerable and trusted someone who cared about us and looked after us, but then they were to kill us afterward, would we think that person loved us?
Sam x Josue this is an awesome question to use during outreach, thank you for commenting this.
@@jennalynn7606 ❤
We are not pigs and cows darling
@@CroElectroStile I understand that we're not cows and pigs, but just like we are able to experience pain, suffering, or harm, so can they. I wasn't trying to say we are cows and pigs. I was putting the argument, "you can love animals and eat them too" into perspective. If we put ourselves in their shoes, we would have empathy. Just as we have empathy for dogs and have laws to protect them.
exactly. like, if our moms and dads wants to eat us when we are 8 years old should we still love and let them to eat us because they made us in the first place.
Wow. You do such a good job of telling people they're wrong while still being their friend
Omg it’s Preacher Lawson
It’s called the socratic method
Did you know you can love kids and still beat them?....no no that’s not it..
You can love woman and still abuse them...shit wait that’s still wrong.
You can eat animals and still love them.. whew..better.
For a second I almost sounded hypocritical 🤷♂️
I think you can beat your wife and love her you would just have a lot of cognitive dissonance
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha made my day😂😂😂
You can love your child and beat them it's called discipline
@@lovelife3629 thats abuse not love and its actually very wrong🙄
@@martamonika8787 Yeah, I have no solid proof but I'd bet my soul there is a big difference general success between those that were spanked or got the belt vs. Those who got stern talking toos and losing toy privileges.
I love how much respect Ed has for the person he's interviewing! He isn't condescending and doesn't try to make the guy feel stupid, he just wants to inform and hopefully change his opinions. Loved this video. 🌿👍🏻
I agree. That is why he is the best at what he does.
He makes people question their own values by exposing them and making the person say it aloud.
Ed is too pure for this world. I guess that's why he's trying to save it.
So true
@murphy mcmanning Yes we vegans are stupid, we are just brainwashed by those gurus like Ed. How dumb are we to think about compassion and environment...
@murphy mcmanning Calm down my friend. I know that animals help the forests. Then you say agriculture is bad but most of the farming areas on earth are for food which will be feeding to animals. The majority of animals are in factory farms and not grass fed for example. According to the FAO, 14.5% of green gazes come from animal agriculture (I advise you to read the article). And agriculture is not always bad, think about crop rotation. After all, even if you are possibly right that veganism doesn't mean ecology-friendly, i mean, the intention is in. It was just insulting to mention us and Ed as "deceiver and sheep" when all what we are trying to do, is being compassionate and help the environement. (I make clear again : with the intention at the least.)
So pure he chooses death over life.
@@xoranginho dude nobody supports factory farming not only do they treat the animals like complete shit. The animals are sick and cause diseases. Pasteurized milk grain fed animals pumped with hormones are not good for the human body.why do you think all the studies are done with factory farmed animals. Pasteurized milk is fucking poisen, that doesn't mean a vegan diet is good. You can't survive on a vegan diet your whole life without supplements. Beta carotene doesn't even convert to vitamin A from carrots and sweet potatoes. Only a few people can do it. But you wouldn't get enough of it anyways, even if you could convert it. I used to look up to people like ED, vegan gains, Gary and so on until I saw sv3rige own Richard on a debate at least on the nutritional part of the debate and realized how full of shit he was. Richard has even admitted to gut problems, he feels like shit but has too big of a heart to admit it. Veganism makes sense ethically but not nutritionally.
Ed is nearly a level 10 Grand Master
The guy being interviewed is ignorant but civil. He is honest and calm. I admire Ed's patience and wealth of knowledge!
i dont think he was necessarily ignorant, i think he took time to speak and did his best to understand ed's pov and come up with reasonable arguments a non vegan would come up with. he was not defensive or trying to "win" a debate, and was actually learning. i love his approach to speaking with Ed and i think we could see that for him it came down to taste more or less, and if he wouldve kept this conversation in mind and did some more research, maybe one day he'd go vegan. :-)
“Would you say if someone killer their dog they loved it?”
“Yes.”
People are so full of shit and will say anything to avoid admitting their hypocrisy.
@Burner Fire You are off topic. The guy interviewed was saying he would have no problem killing a dog and eat them. He explicitly said that if he eats a chicken or a pig why not eating a dog, because to him all animals are equal.
@Burner Fire Stop with this Bullshit
Well said. Soo true.
This guy is definitely struggling with his own hypocrisy and makes up bullshit to try and justify it.
Been plant based for about a month, I can realize, eating non-vegetarian food is not hypocrisy. My family is selectively non vegetarian. We don't eat cows or pigs. Just fish, chicken, dairy and eggs. In fact I myself don't mind people around me eating anything they wish. Just I hate being interrupted in my preferences. Speciesm is something on which different people have different opinions. Henceforth, I really don't force others to quit meat.
Imagine being that animal: being raised by people who "love you" and then having them kill you. Ultimate betrayal... that's not love that's hate.
Thumper what an erroneous thing to say. I can only speak for myself, but I know plenty of other vegans who went vegan for the animals. It's actually the opposite of what you say, we don't think we are better, than anyone, including the animals. We don't think that we have the right to take the lives of other sentient beings when we have no need to. Veganism is the most ethical, compassionate, healthy, eco friendly and progressive way to live.
@Thumper Imagine the flimsiest strawman someone could... oh there it is.
Stephen Tkacs 😂 ikr
If the kill is swift. What's the big deal
@Andy Lucas the problem is that there is no such thing as a humane death. the same way that there is no such thing as a humane rape. would rape be okay if the rapist would take care of the victim before the act? or if the rapist would hug and kiss the victim while raping them?
I love my kids so much, but when they got to the terrible two's, it just made sense to kill and eat them.
Oh and I don't have any kids, because I ate them. Ha. Seriously though, I don't have any kids.
Ed is the best vegan activist on RUclips. He is so calm, respectful, quick thinking, and very educated!
'We are like hawks'
Imagine a hawk just casually going into Tesco and picking up a shopping basket, and their bill amounts to 'squawk squawk.'
😂It's just like when they say "what about if you were stuck on an island" 🙃🔫I always answer with "what if you were at coles with your shopping trolley with a choice!?" they always stand their with a dumb look on their faces
I laughed out loud at this comment. Thank you so much I needed that lol.
I became vegan after watching your videos, Ed. The reason is because I cannot refute anything you put forward, it is simply illogical of me to fully agree with you and continue to support an unsustainable lifestyle.
Jason Quinn you’re comment is bible script you are the next ed my love xx
Jason Quinn yay!!! :D
thats exactly why i went vegan a year and a half ago!! Ed speaks the truth and I couldn’t live in a state of moral hypocrisy any longer after watching his videos and agreeing with everything he says
murphy mcmanning shut up bro vegan diets have been proven to be very healthy and it can even reverse heart disease
murphy mcmanning you are actually the one in denial you clearly haven’t done any research
I've been a vegan for just over a month now! Thank you for being the reason I finally made the decision.
Well done! I'm 9 months in, more of is joining everyday :D
Yay! Over 4 years here, and feels like I have been vegan all my life!:)
Tilda that's so awesome!!! keep it up! vegang for life ✌🏻
that's amazing! so happy I was able to help you on your journey, thank you for making the change!
Welcome in the more crazy/happy/loving/* family ever!
*Add what you like
Oh I super disagree with “vegans being tired”! Since I’ve gone vegan I’ve had so much more energy and became more energetic and “light”.
Me too. I hear so many other vegans who say that!
@Turito Bassu Before I went vegan, he last time I ate salmon, I went into a food coma. My body told me to sleep while it digested all that animal protein. I haven't experienced anything like that since. Even when I eat Tofurky Roast and the fixings on Thanksgiving I haven't felt the need to take a nap after eating.
@Turito Bassu So have you at least tried? It sounds like you know so well from experiences.
@Turito Bassu maybe you need to experiment with your diet more. ever since going plant-based, i could run 10k more everyday, never felt a food coma or need a nap in the middle of the day. are you sure it's the plants that keeps you up at night if you've never gone 100%?
Yes exactly. This tired thing is absolutely false, they just say that, because that's what they imagine would happen. No vegan has ever told them that they so tired all the time since being vegan, it's absolute bullcrap 😂
As a vegan, I don't need to eat all the time and I'm definitely full of energy. Maybe his friends are vegan junk food eaters. 😝
I've been vegan since you posted this comment 9 months ago and I have gratuitous amounts of energy. My lifts all went up along with my energy level. It was shitty to learn that I was living at sub-par energy levels _and_ responsible for thousands of animal deaths but all I can do is stay vegan for the rest of my life :)
Haley Tice I know this is an old comment but I agree, since going vegan I have so much energy and mental focus that it's actually kind of scary to imagine going back to my previous diet, I don't know how I ever managed such a busy schedule with such little energy
I literally haven't eaten for 7 hrs and im doing just fine. being vegan definitely gives you more energy.
@Mary Joy when I began eating more nutritional food like a lot of vegetables, tofu, etc. I began to not snack on stuff. im not starving myself lmao, I can eat 2 meals a day now and ill be perfectly energetic.
@@GeddyRC im vegan too and i have also learnt that eating veggies and all will benfit you alot includig energy because your body isnt always digesting hard foods like meat because it takes alot of energy to digest meat
This is quality. He really thought about what he was gonna say rather than just blurt out stuff. Great convo
yes i really liked this particular debate for the reasons that it was calm and collected from both sides, the person talking to ed wasnt defensive and and trying to 'win' this, was just having a conversation based on his beliefs and knowledge. I think he was a great listener and i can appreciate him trying to come up with proper arguments. really great video all in all.
1 Year vegan today ! Will never look back to my old habit !
I made my first video and am looking to grow and connect with others. I will make much more than vegan content. Check it out? 🙏
2 years :) hopefully...
Just know that nature doesnt give a flying fvck and will try kill you brutally if you wanna leave your sheltered community and enter real nature.
@@granta3044 and you are in the real nature yourself, hunting boars with spears among your brethren, then watching RUclips at night by the fire? I'll stay in the civilized world, thanks.
@@pepega3344 hunters are part of the real world. You must live in a huge city where the average lifespan is shorter.
“The food chain”....WE SHOP IN SUPERMARKETS...WE AREN’T PART OF THE FOOD CHAIN !
It's amazing how they always use that as a way to claim that we're better than animals but don't see that it's the fact we're better that we can make the choice to rise above primitive urges. I'm stronger than my girlfriend so I might as well beat her up just cos I can
I think the reason we are outside the food chain in a sense is that humans have become so advanced from technology that we now no longer need to eat whatever we could get ahold of to survive. We have an overwhelming impact on the planet's environment and are obligated by that fact, to source our food responsibly. As you imply, we (with very few exceptions) are not hunter gatherers. We go to the store and buy food that has been grown or raised instead of food that was gathered from the wild or hunted.
First world problems
Jose Henriquez
I have lived in a third world country and have family that lives in a third world country. They still have the ability to plant fruits, vegetables, and grains. What would be cheaper..to plant a seed and provide it with water, or feed an animal the grains that humans could be eating ?
If we were we wouldn't be at the top!
"Save animals by killing and eating them tho".
man, i love your channel and am really happy that you are vegan
but bacon tho...
@@Clmrtan you disappoint me in every way
@@Clmrtan hella based
@@zhulimoon46 because someone doesn't agree with what you think?
Ed is so patient even though he knows he's right.
I made my first video and am looking to grow and connect with others. I will make much more than vegan content. Check it out? 🙏
Lol what a narcissistic name.
He is patient because he knows he's right.
He’s definitely not right lol.
Ed is the complete opposite of right, meat is good.
This is the only real humane slaughter
lmaooooo
😆
lol
@ ohh yes.
Edgy lol
Been Vegan for 6months now! You were the #1 person to convince me and its the best decision i've made in my life!
yo, how's the vegan life going??
@@potatorepublic6673 it's going great! It's just over 4 years now.
I just adore Ed’s patience. He always lets the other person finish all of his/her thoughts and sentences and never interrupts! Amazing self control to not jump in!!!
he has an argument for everything someone says i swear
qua king haha das because carnists use the same nonsense, debunked excuses and earthling ed is PREPARED to snap back ahaah
Because he's heard it all a million times already
Daniel Sadjadi jesus fuck you came out of nowhere
Angelica Ahmann actually no
Did you know new studies are showing fungi to be more intelligent than humans. Hope you don’t eat mushrooms. Or own a cat or drive a car. Because that would make you a hypocrite.
Blown away by your level of communication... it’s amazing how calm and understanding you stay
Outstanding..!
It's because almost 100% of vegans used to eat meat and dairy. These were the things we told ourself before the consciousness was expanded
I’m 15 and I’ve been vegetarian for 4 years and vegan for 1 month and I’ve loved it so far. I totally agree, both my parents used to work on a farm / agriculture in the Middle East when they lived there and continued working on farms when they moved to the uk. My dad still eats meat but my mum is vegetarian and trying to go vegan and I legit think everyone should be educated on what and where their food is from.
marhaba habibti!
The thing I love is how down to earth, understanding and relatable Ed is towards people. He doesn’t come off as “I’m better than you”. He doesn’t try to call people murders. He doesn’t laugh at responses.
He has mastered this art.
I want to thank you for doing these "change my mind" videos (actually no; thank you for any video of yours). they are so informative and I absolutely adore everything you do and stand for. also, thank you for teaching me to look beyond what I have been taught throughout my childhood, and for helping me make the easiest choice I have ever made. I don't think I can thank you enough, truly.
Not only is killing an animal you supposedly love not actual love, but the idea that you can still love an animal while *eating their bodies* is completely baffling to me. Especially because their remains will be turned into literal shit. When my cat dies, I hope to bury him not eat him. Eating animals is such a dishonor and disgrace to their lives. I refuse to let my body be a graveyard.
Comrade 269 maggots and worms will eat your cats flesh and will shit it out
@18bluekisses that's a long stretch my friend
@18bluekisses Your parents aren't going to kill and eat you, and before you grew to adulthood. Fucking moron.
Vegans... what is love? Do you guys actually believe this? Actions do not equate to feelings. Actions are only used to express feelings but those expressions can ignored. I can hate him so much that I want to destroy him but then think logically "but I'll go to jail" or this or that will happen so I choose not to. Same could be said with love... I love you but if I don't do this or that then this other thing wil happen. Think beyond your feelings vegans. People can ignore doing what they want or feel they should etc and do an action merely out of logical reasoning or because of a greater love or hate for something else.
@jonsan astari i don't think that has anything to do with what she's saying. when you love someone it's bc you've had a relationship with them of some sort. We're ok with worms eating us but if you love someone or an animal the thought of eating them just seems awful
The difference between humans and cats when it comes to food, cats need meat to function but we dont.
"What is more valuable, your taste buds or an animal" 👍👍👍🙌🙌🙌🙌
my tastebuds
@@swaggyjones9875 an animal
I love your videos Ed! I recently hit 6 months being Vegan and I haven't looked back! The world is slowly but surely changing to be more accustomed for the Vegan Lifestyle. Keep up the great work man 🌱🌱🌱🌱
Not true
Adam Monks in my opinion it is. More stores and restaurants are having vegan options, vegan restaurants are being opened
Okay, but the fact is that 74% of vegans turn back to our natural lifestyle. Correct, restaurants are opening but you still represent a very small minority. Because being vegan is unhealthy for most individuals you will see massive push back on this and you will never be the majority. Enjoy being vegan by all means, just quit trying to convince others based on propaganda.
@@adammonks591 But still there are more and more vegans in the world - how do you explain that ? Also I would love to see the source to your claim.
@@endlesssummer2133 Ideology. That's how I explain that.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why%3famp
Meat gives him energy? So why do people want to take a nap after chowing down on burgers and such? 🤔
Elizabeth Elias usually because of the carb heavy buns and fries they eat with the meat patty. I can’t make my husband any bread carbs for breakfast or he gets sleepy at work. Just meat and eggs. He can handle some broccoli but not too much or he gets sleepy lol
Elizabeth Elias I agree. Before I was vegan, I used to feel rubbish after a meaty meal, tired, sort of ill and just like I needed a nap.
As a vegan now, I literally feel a steady energy surge after a meal. I’ve never felt better than I do, eating mostly Whole Foods vegan and my blood work is great.
(Edit: I eat a high carb-low fat diet btw)
Vegan for LIFE baby!! ✊🏼
@@ElinWinblad um, not true. Remember that Seinfeld episode when Jerry was dating a woman who had vintage toys. She wouldn't let him play with them, so he kept trying to find ways to help her sleep? Elaine came over one time and fed her turkey to help her fall asleep. Everyone knows eating meat makes you sluggish and sleepy. I get by on 4-6 hours of sleep everyday. I never get sick, and I eat a lot of healthy whole foods carbs, no oil. I walk about 100,000 steps a week. And I will be 52 in 2 weeks. People half my age can't keep up, unless they eat a healthy vegan diet. It's been 31 years since I've eaten meat. I remember always feeling sleepy after a steak.
@The Knapp Family is your day filled with non stop physical activity? Or do you sit at a desk? I walk about 100,000 steps a week. There's no way I could maintain that level of activity at my age if I ate meat. I remember always feeling sleepy when I ate steaks and chicken, and feeling hungry after eating eggs.
Elizabeth Elias 😆 you are using a tv show as evidence? And yes turkey specifically does have a sleepy thing to it I forgot what the chemical is called but ppl think it puts you to sleep on thanksgiving but it’s actually the huge amount of food ppl ate in total. 14k steps is where you should be at as normal activity nothing Uber special about that. My husband prefers his lunches be mostly a meat and the rest a veggie like broccoli. I can’t put pasta or rice or anything like that or he gets sleepy. His job is physically demanding so no sleeping on the job lol. I’m not trying to convince you not to be vegan I’m just saying that carbs especially pasta related ones make ppl crash. I’m sure there might be exceptions out there.
You are endowed with tact, patience, a razor sharp brain, compassion, focus, empathy and so much more. So grateful you do this on so many levels Ed.
Ah, this was such a nice change! Usually the people Ed argue with are ignorant and feel surperior and bring up the same old arguments... this guy was at least more morally consistent on the dog vs pig thing, he seemed pretty smart, and he was very respectful throughout the whole conversation. Instead of getting defensive and trying to debunk everything Ed said, he considered the points that were made. He seems like a nice guy, and maybe from now on he'll think more consciously about his choices :)
I wish I was as eloquent as you, Ed. You're so good with your words! I can barely put a sentence together when I'm trying to explain veganism. I get so passionate and end up just spitting facts out, probably not being very effective. Lol keep doing what you're doing! Love you and your activism! ❤❤❤
Same here girl, I sooo wish I could be half as articulate and calm as Ed is. I get way too emotional and frustrated talking to people about veganism, therefore don't make for a good activist. I've trained myself to not get too deep into discussions and just try to lead by example.
@@SkylarPro I'm in the process of that. I still make snarky comments here and there, but I think I'm doing better. 😆
I was exactly like this I cud nt explain to nonVegans for more than a couple of minutes kz I thot I was out of points after listening to ed's podcast and watching his debates and interactions with people I have gotten sooo better keep doing with more confidence ❤️👍
M sure it's been 3 years yu will have gotten soo much better already 💕
@@bhavanarmanjunath4444 We can learn so much from Ed but putting it into action isn't always easy. I lose my patience quickly I'm afraid.
This video is so hard to watch. I'm 5 minutes in and can't bear to listen to the moron he's talking to any longer 😅
literally all the comments on here are so positive. you all rock 💓
We call that an echo chamber. You want to avoid those if you don't want to become an ideologue.
Adam Monks okay jordan Peterson
@@elfullin well he's not wrong on that TBF
Adam Monks lol yeah I know I was just messing with you. He is an idiot when it comes to other things tho. Just like most ppl.
Joey Fartstrong 🕺💨
The founder of the world “vegan”, and of The Vegan Society, Donald Watson, died at age 95. He went vegan in his 30s.
I admire how patiently you walk people through their own contradictions. Thank you for being a voice for animals!
Ed transitions beautifully into each question and stays calm and polite the whole way through. So delightful to watch.
Kind of shocked to see the guy be okay with the whole killing dogs and humans thing
Emma technically it’s nature and nature is cruel. All the laws we do have etc are a social construct. Luckily we usually all agree to them but that varies by culture.
@@ElinWinblad nature is not cruel that bullshit you got learned at school what you are saying is wrong on somany levels....
@@jaygopinath1694 there is many predators in the wild that eat babies so nature is cruel and so are humans. Why do you want people to be vegan but not wild animals? Humans are animals too but you don't accept the way humans are and change that.
I got the impression that he has those stances to justify his meat eating. He's clearly thought about it, and like many of us, he's struggled with the whole "I eat cows but not my pet dog" dilemma and apparently took it a step further to humans. Instead of ending the hypocrisy by going vegan, he took the stance of, of course I'll eat dogs and humans in a society where those things are accepted. He gets to stay morally consistent without without really having to face a situation where he's offered dog or human meat. This is all total speculation, of course. For all I know, he loves the taste of grandma
@@ElinWinblad With very few exceptions, mankind has advanced to the point that we no longer need to survive by hunting and gathering. Unlike predators in nature, we can and should choose a diet which is sustainable for our environment and humane to other animals besides ourselves.
Recently I have read an article about the more and more people refusing to work at slaughter houses and there is a shortage. It is so damn easy just to go to the shop and buy that killed animal's body part, just looking at it and deciding which piece to get, just like a new T-shirt. Doing it without ever thinking what actually goes on in the slaughterhouses, without trying to feel it....
People are waking up!
@@pri.sci.lla. And Thanks for a hard work of those who spread the message! Obviously people who work in the slaughterhouses see it all and do it.... However it doesn't mean they all feel good about it. I imagine most have serious mental issues and nightmares. Eventually they look into alternatives and that is promising too. Since I went vegan over 4 years ago, so much had changed already!
May I have a link to that article?
@@ReluctantWarrior here it is www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/19/christmas-crisis-kill-dinner-work-abattoir-industry-psychological-physical-damage
@@positivekarolina1260 I've read alot about how PTSD is very common for slaughterhouse workers, I wish this was more talked about to make people aware of the "other side"
Just got into these and Ed is badass, it’s as if we’ve seen an evolvement within him throughout these years, just amazing passion
I like how Ed doesn’t instantly go “ you’re wrong”, but talks it out with them and listens to what they’ve got to say
Ed this is masterfully done, I hope to be as articulate as you one day.
Such interviews always remind me of how blind I‘ve been all those years, crazy 😀
I absolutely love the transition from “I eat meat bc that’s the way it is” to “well, I guess, u know, I think...” CHANGE MINDS ONE AT A TIME 👏🏼 even if they don’t admit it right then and there!
Probably my favorite vegan debate I've watched thus far
Great guy, honest, thoughtful and open minded! I really enjoyed that one :-). I think he has lot of things to think on now. Well done, Ed!
He didn't give much indication of changing his mind, he wasn't even listening to Ed. He just kept repeating the same BS the whole time. He probably went away thinking he was right.
You can't claim to love an animal while you are killing them. That's an obvious inconsistency and you are lying to yourself if you think that way.
Double standards at their best...
@@positivekarolina1260 Damn right it is. Also your baby is adorable, she looks so cute! Sorry, just had to say that.
@@injustice2damianwayne234 ahh Thanks so much ❤️ raising little vegan here, hopefully she will be empathetic and see those things the way they actually are...
You could love them, but your love for meat can be greater.🤣
@@positivekarolina1260 why would you want your kid to be vegan?🤣
Earthling Ed, how many times do you hear the word “but”? Lol
I know rape is bad BUT orgasms feel great.
@@chaosenergy1990 That's kind of offensive but i gotta say i cracked a laugh
@@kuusakat1308 it’s offensive when people say i know killing animals is bad BUT bacon is so tasty
I think I'm in love with Earthling Ed. He is so incredible!
Liked before watching. Didn't regret it. 👍
Totally!
OMG ed as so much patience , much respect
ASMR SoniaSoothes Well to be honest I would stay calm here too because the first one (are they more? I am still at the blond one) he really has intresting answers and they weren’t exactly stupid.
There should be an ASMR video dedicated to Ed's patience.
I love how calm and peaceful you are towards people with your questions. You're doing great!
Can't believe how calm, composed and even friendly Ed is. It's hard to act like that when people are harming something you care so much about. Lots of respect to Ed, his attitude is what we need.
Its always funny, people think they are sitting down for a debate with the average joe 😂 Then Ed asks, are you aware you are being filmed and is it ok for you? "Yes"... Game time!
He systematically strips away all the arguments with facts and logic! At the end it does not matter that much if the person who joins the debate does not agree. But hundred of thousands of people will watch the video and ask them selves these questions and it will effect thousands of people! :) Well done!
He uses no logic or science nearly all his facts are wrong
Rhino Prime Well I mean... google is your friend here for proof of his statements. Look up the study he referenced, look into the evolutionary design of our teeth vs other animals, look up farming conditions. It’s all right there in plain sight?
@@rhinoprime9395 prove it
@@rhinoprime9395 Just search it up dude, people have already done the research for you, u just need to be open to the information. It's that simple, nothing to prove
@@rhinoprime9395 Tell us one fact that he got wrong. One of us should be able to support our position with a link to facts that would determine if he was right or wrong.
He's so deep into his "you can love, yet kill" line that he keeps justifying it all the way up to human murder. Come on! At least he's trying to be consistent, I suppose.
Exactly! It's like he realized if he changed his line of thinking when it came to humans, it would reveal his prejudice against animals and flawed reasoning. Imagine waking up one night and one of your parents is standing over you with a big knife saying "Honey, I just want to show you how much I love you"!
Actions don't equate to feelings. Actions are merely often used to express feelings, but those expressions are not uncontrollable, and can be ignored. Think about it.
@@orpheusowlallearthlingsmat6076 Right??
@@chicken2423 True.
@@chicken2423 Feelings can be ignored, but is it moral to do so? That's what has to be considered.
This was such an interesting discussion, thank you both! 😊
I loved this! So cool how you can approach this kind of conversation respectfully & still get your point across!!
thank you for doing this, it's so important. i admire your calm with those people.
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Ed you are absolutely adorable, amazing and an absolute role model. Thank you so much for everything you do. So genuine 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Keep spreading that kindness, world needs a hell of a lot more of it !!
ed I love and honor your grace, good faith, and tenderness in these interactions. it really inspires me, how I can be more genuine, kind, and compassionate in my interactions in life
I do believe I was an animal lover before I was vegan, but it was the feeling of love rather than the action of love. I was so cognitively dissonent, I would have never hurt an animal directly but I was able to eat meat without thinking about it.
But damn anyways this man really decided to justify cannibalism instead of admitting Ed has a point lol
You are amazing, I’m getting into vegan activism in January and going to activism group of Anonymous for the Voiceless. Thank you for everything Ed. I’m hoping to inspire others with my channel as you’ve inspired me🌱
vegan vic if someone is claiming they are a chapter of anonymous they are lying. They are called anonymous for a reason.
Omg so am I!
Sophie Marie ASMR good for you!💕💕💕
Lol, going activist after xmas. How passionate
GDKLockout I am already an activist for veganism every single day of my life, but in January I am taking the streets with an organization! Don’t criticize others for doing everything that they can. Spread love ❤️
Earthling Ed
Thank you for tirelessly standing up on behalf of the most vulnerable and the most egregiously treated individuals....the animals.
I think it's a problematic false dichotomy to frame the context of the moral question of whether needless killing is justified or not in terms of 'killing' vs. 'loving'.
Of course different people have different notions of what "love" means but I think it's safe to say that many people would agree with this definition: "an intense feeling of deep affection." It's what we think of when we think of a girl/boyfriend, spouse, the family cat or dog as just a few examples.
The act of needlessly killing another individual is an act of not respecting their life, not an act of not loving them. So I'd argue that the correct framing ought to be: "You cant respect animals and kill (eat) them.....change my mind". Just my suggestion.
The much better option instead of 'loving', IMHO, is respecting.....which I'd argue is the actual converse of 'killing'. I don't love most people in the world yet I respect their life....I wouldn't have to love someone in order to not kill them. In fact, there's plenty of animals whom I don't love and yet, of course, I respect their life.
Love ≠ respect. To love someone is not the opposite of to not kill them.
Much love to you.
SOOOOO NICE CONVERSATION :) THANK YOU ED! :)
I love you Ed, thank you for showing me how to calmly communicate such passionate and sensitive topics. You truly are an inspiration and a vital light shining on this generation!! Peace!
I would love to go on tour doing activism with you! You're such a huge inspiration.
Such an interesting conversation!! Love and support from France, Ed.
I’m happy every time I see one of your videos Ed. So excited knowing that new people have received some form of new perspective from you.
Very interesting and respectful conversation. Thanks Ed
OH GOODNESS ... the canine argument.
_I was going to face palm but missed because my eyes were rolling so much._
Alistair Ceansa he didn’t even say canines he said incisors😂 he has no idea what he’s talking about
@@charliesaz0626 True. *You're right.* Though he didn't seem phased when Ed then responded talking about canines, which he possibly meant LOL (( I'm sure if a camera was recording me I'd say daft shit too )) :-) _Slight aside: aren't elephant tusks actually elongated incisors?_
Alistair Ceansa yes I believe they are just elongated incisors, for most other animals though their tusks are usually elongated canines
@@alexwr Thank you Amy for your response. Chimpanzees and Bonobos are indeed close relatives. If it is that we are omnivores, by my understanding this would mean we could survive from just plants - that killing and eating animals would be optional, and as such unnecessary. How does one morally justify the unnecessary killing of sentient creatures?
@@ellistarceansa8182 Indeed we can survive on plant alone :) I'm certainly not debating that! I'm just asking why I'd have to morally justify our diets when no other creature on the planet has to?
People are such hypocrites! Love you, Ed and all the work you do for the animals!
@Southy I think it's great to support vegan options that come from otherwise animal-product focused companies. It shows them that there is a demand for vegan products, and would make them more willing to switch over to those alternatives/release new vegan products, which will increase the vegan options in stores even further!
Southy yes because it sends a signal to the diary industry that people want the diary free option. The diary and meat industries just work on supply and demand. If we start asking them to supply the options free of flesh, cows milk and chicken eggs they’ll start supplying it. That’s the best way to get change within these industries.
Southy yes you would - some vegans have a different views. Just like not everyone in the same political party agrees. One thing all vegans agree with though is that animals shouldn’t have to die to feed humans who could quite easily sustain themselves on plants and meat alternatives. If there is a kinder option why not choose it?!
Really respectful and productive discussion! This is the way to do it, not yelling and putting down :)
3:52 The sound you make when you've been bamboozled
At times during the interview this guy started to see Eds points and i noticed in these sequences his face lit up, he seemed like a much softer and nicer person suddenly. Lets hope he will connect the dots at some point and join the vegan world 💛
But,,,but,,, hahahaaaa, ur rite I think ginger is morally starting 2 'FEEL' something, Eddie's touching him on a level hes not maybe felt b4 , gud on him 4 the debate, u go Eddie😀
I eat 150 grams meat a day. I don't think it's wrong.
@@jome8059 you won’t be saying that when it’s affected you in 20 years
@@amirrhodesve791 and why is that ?
@@jome8059 because its known that meat is a big issue of heart diseases and cancers theres many research papers on it
I'm too young right now but I will get into vegan activism in the future
Agafia Bowden you‘re never too young :) look up genesis butler ☺️
Look up Vegan Evan too! He's 7 or 8 years old and he's a vegan activist. If you want to be an activist, go for it. Plant those seeds! 🌱
All these people who don't know what they are talking about become activists, not at all ironic given contemporary politics and the naive individuals becoming activists. Future ideologue alert!
Do not feel pressured by the vegans Agafia, meat will help you grow healthy, it's very hard for young people to get their diets right without a lot of work and bloodwork etc. So don't sweat it.
@@JLydecka What are you talking about "pressured" by the vegans? We aren't pressuring anyone, it's called ENCOURAGEMENT. Quit painting vegans in a bad light. It's not hard to get your diet right. Massive amounts of bloodwork aren't necessary. Just eat bigger portions of varied whole foods and you'll be fine. There are tons of resources online to help like challenge22.com (which is free support with mentors to help you transition your diet), as well as cronometer. There are also vegan/vegetarian discord servers, which are super helpful.
Also Jacob, meat will not help you grow healthy. It's been scientifically proven that animal products cause heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. How can something that's been proven to cause deadly diseases like cancer and heart disease be healthy for us? The World Health Organization and the American Cancer Society have deemed processed meat a group 1 carcinogen (same group as cigarettes/tobacco) and red meat as a group 2A carcinogen, which means they cause cancer. Again, the World Health Organization and the American Cancer Society have said this. Don't believe me? Check the ACS website. Also, the meta-analysis (in the sources below) was given to me by a certified doctor.
-ACS Carcinogen List: www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html
-Red Meat and Processed Meat Consumption and All-Cause Mortality (meta-analysis): academic.oup.com/aje/article/179/3/282/103471
-Vegans 42% less heart disease mortality, etc: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
-Vegan Blood Protein Levels Higher than Omnivores: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065242309470070
The largest group of medical professionals (Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics) have this to say about a vegan diet:
“It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.”
jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/pdf
Don't listen to this guy, Agafia. He has no unbiased studies or any unbiased evidence to back up his claims.
Another great conversation! So impressed by your conversational skills. It's beautiful to see how you show so much respect and patient during every discussion. Also, big credits to the other guy, intellectual talks like this are what brings change.
Ed you are the most incredible debater I've seen. I guess it gets easier when they answer in the same way every time, but still, your patience and your manner is incredible, and you really educate them without being patronising or elitist. Damn you're good.
You are an inspiration💚
Thank you for your work.
Well done to both of you. Open mindset. Logic and discussion builds towards the clear conclusion.
I love your approach!
I think of you when I get into a discussion.
I went to a (mostly) vegan restaurant the other day with my meat eating friends and we had really interesting discussions on veganism, durability and sustainability.
Please keep this up, it's inspiring!
I love this. Great conversation!
This is such a good form of activism. The difference between your "Change My Mind" segment and the meme-worthy Steven Crowder version is that your show holds real discussions and healthy debate, not two idiots arguing over nothing.
Probably the best video I saw about this. 2 intelligent people talking and exanching ideas in a super respectful and calm way
Great conversation!
I absolutely love these change my mind videos, they're brilliant
Do you think there is any way you could come and give a speech at my secondary school?
yes! drop me an email hello@earthlinged.com
Earthling Ed you speak at schools? Do you ever go to American universities? I would love to see you speak in person and I have a nonvegan friend who’s just starting to feel guilty about meat eating and I’m sure he’d go too.
@@melaniedavis6204 His famous speech that went viral was at a university
Melanie Davis usually for most activists you just need to pay for their flight and accommodation to come out :)
Vegan Living 24/7 yeah I figured. I have to find some other vegans on campus first
I loved this for how open and non-judgemental it was from both sides, how educational and respectful. Conversation and communication is so very powerful and this just shows that once again.
great job powerful work as always Ed. Thank you for sharing this important message -
I been watching your videos and you’re such an inspiration, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
These videos are so inspirational keep it up I have been vegan for almost 2 months now I'm only 13 these videos are amazing👍🏽🌿🌱
Just fantastic. I love that you started this series.
This is a wild conversation! Good job Ed! I hope you have you on my podcast some day.