MEGA 4WD SUV towing test! Some fail our tests! 😳 Patrol v LandCruiser v Defender v Everest v MU-X..

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  • @CarExpertAus
    @CarExpertAus  Год назад +10

    Check out the other videos in this test! 4WD SUV off-road test: ruclips.net/video/h0Rn0CyHh2g/видео.html
    MEGA 4WD SUV drag race: ruclips.net/video/ugmmUpfdGNA/видео.html

    • @jmena19
      @jmena19 Год назад +1

      @brianrodrigues460
      The Defender’s suspension will not lower when the trailer plug is connected. Plus you can turn off auto-access mode in the settings of the vehicle if you like.

    • @mitchmcbride6053
      @mitchmcbride6053 Год назад

      Great content as always I have the new mux and fitted Berima diesels throttle controller it was under $300 . Honestly an excellent addition for towing much more responsive. And with a proper tune I have seen amazing fuel and power gains. Yes I understand you shouldn’t have to do this but it really changes the whole car

  • @aaronclausen654
    @aaronclausen654 Год назад +79

    Paul is easily the best car reviewer I've seen. He does such a thorough job.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  Год назад +4

      Thank you!

    • @MisterMister5893
      @MisterMister5893 6 месяцев назад

      Likeable chap but, HE HAS A TEAM.

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 2 месяца назад

      Yes, the go-to reviews I reckon. Even the durometer is important for comfort etc which no one else does.

  • @marnusjvr86
    @marnusjvr86 Год назад +125

    Must have been a hell of an effort to do all this testing so meticulously. Thanks for the effort so that we can get the such thorough results.

  • @angusmonro967
    @angusmonro967 Год назад +53

    The Defender access height suspension lowering can be easily turned off in the car’s settings so not an issue at all

  • @jean-louishamid5285
    @jean-louishamid5285 Год назад +39

    The Patrol is trully everything you need. A beautiful vehicle, a bedroom, a fast car, a towing beast, a meeting room. Someone should install a shower in the boot to make it a real house on wheels.

    • @NicholasCox85
      @NicholasCox85 Год назад +3

      And even the same technology as my grandmas lounge room! Circa 2000s. How people still buy them with that type of dogshit interior and infotainment blows my mind.

    • @jean-louishamid5285
      @jean-louishamid5285 Год назад +10

      @@NicholasCox85 Because those parameters are secondary at best to people who actually buy the car. The Patrol's hardware is awesome, at a very good price.

    • @robertmason2076
      @robertmason2076 Год назад +3

      @@NicholasCox85because all the interior and infotainment is upgradeable. You have to bear in mind it was released over a decade ago and is getting discontinued next year.
      But the car itself is absolutely phenomenal and ridiculously cheap compared to a 300 and for only a few grand you can have the aftermarket industry replace all the infotainment, instrument cluster, steering wheel and wood grain etc and still have thousands upon thousands of dollars for fuel.

    • @thelonewolf666
      @thelonewolf666 4 месяца назад +4

      @@NicholasCox85 my 62 eats my wifes landcruiser 300... who the hell is looking at the infotainement when your driving??? the patrols works flawlessly, the bluetooth etc, you can hey google everything--- the car is the best tow rigg ive ever owned and ive owned most, your mind must be easily blown

    • @brianmaclennan561
      @brianmaclennan561 2 месяца назад +2

      Bought mine to tow, not worry about the next Spotify song.

  • @brianrodrigues460
    @brianrodrigues460 Год назад +84

    The Defender’s suspension will not lower when the trailer plug is connected. Plus you can turn off auto-access mode in the settings of the vehicle if you like.

    • @dave216dx
      @dave216dx Год назад +8

      He was totally clueless with the land rover product in that regard.. no idea.. making it look bad. Not to mention how handy the air suspension can be when hooking up trailers etc particully if you have issues with a jockey wheel etc

    • @BugattiONE666
      @BugattiONE666 Год назад +3

      @@dave216dx Well hes a damn sight better than most American reviews "HEHE BRITISH CAR BAD"

    • @DarkIzo
      @DarkIzo 11 месяцев назад

      i think its more about reversing under the swan neck, opening the door to get out and THEN having the defender drop down and make contact
      afaik there is no exception for that scenario regarding auto access height

    • @rippedup1931
      @rippedup1931 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dave216dxgood thing people actually towing don’t use euro crap

  • @lennykibet6689
    @lennykibet6689 Год назад +35

    I've always found this channel to be sooooo underrated. All your tests are always so practical and well elaborated and explained.

  • @gregb1599
    @gregb1599 Год назад +160

    LDV did not want to do the test, no surprises there!

    • @dragginmedown
      @dragginmedown Год назад

      Just good for tradies towing trailers. And shitty work sites

    • @RanjivKapuge
      @RanjivKapuge Год назад +14

      Drove a rental LDV recently… worst driving experience

    • @dragginmedown
      @dragginmedown Год назад +13

      @@RanjivKapuge what were you expecting? A bmw?

    • @fawshaw3361
      @fawshaw3361 Год назад +2

      Haha I agree!

    • @BoskiM
      @BoskiM Год назад +7

      It would have come last. Best to save face now than face ridicule later on 😂

  • @CarExpertAus
    @CarExpertAus  Год назад +7

    Sorry about the confusion! Off-road test will be published later this week. We had to switch the publish order of the videos. Make sure you are subscribed with the bell icon to be notified when it goes live.

  • @tanmupps5997
    @tanmupps5997 Год назад +44

    If patrol Nissan had updated it's interior like it did in some markets , there was no need to buy a landcruiser

    • @pinkcitrus98
      @pinkcitrus98 Год назад

      dw an all new y63 is coming out this year for the global market. it must be easier for them to build a new model according to markets like Australia than update and convert the Y62 which was primarily developed for LHD markets hence the holdout with the Y62

    • @Beastunlish
      @Beastunlish 6 месяцев назад +2

      But Land cruiser is goated machine ✨️

  • @dragonz_breath4072
    @dragonz_breath4072 Год назад +46

    I would choose the Patrol. It’s cheaper and has amazing towing, off-roading and on road capabilities.

    • @Gdsamplify
      @Gdsamplify Год назад +2

      Not all of us live in GCC and can afford that fuel bill...

    • @mitchell5064
      @mitchell5064 Год назад +7

      @@Gdsamplify if you can afford a patrol fuel shouldn’t be a problem.

    • @michaelnewell1
      @michaelnewell1 Год назад +10

      Yep and it is 30k cheaper than a Land Cruiser, that’s about 10 years worth of fuel

    • @richardzedman1160
      @richardzedman1160 Год назад +5

      @@Gdsamplify when towing on hwy it uses less fuel what u talking about

    • @jjwoody6532
      @jjwoody6532 Год назад +4

      @@GdsamplifyOk spend another 20 to 40k on the Cruiser or LR and save a couple of bucks a week on fuel. 🤔 That’s smart thinking.

  • @jamessouth4776
    @jamessouth4776 Год назад +25

    It would be interesting to get some 90s model 4wds and do the same the test to see how far we’ve come and in some case not come lol

  • @CRUSTY-nm7vu
    @CRUSTY-nm7vu Год назад +6

    Paul, Paul, Paul, I speak as a truck driver of 25 years! Who the hell would tow a heavy trailer using cruise control? I use cruise control in a truck occasionally, in a car often on a freeway, but not when I’m in my suv towing a caravan ect.

  • @JayWilFo
    @JayWilFo Год назад +15

    Thank you so much for all your efforts in making these tests realistic, educational and above all, entertaining ❤

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV Год назад +8

    Excellent video. I'd love to see this done for older SUVs. It would be great to build up the database of results.

  • @millars4
    @millars4 Год назад +4

    Great video thanks Paul. I have the V6 Ranger Wildtrak and have been towing a 3t caravan for several months (10,000kms) I blew a turbo (a bearing failure) after 1700kms. Ford NZ looked after us with not only fixing it quickly but paying for our accommodation while we waited for the repair. Still love the truck, great for towing. I get 16lt per 100km while hooked up. If I was to pick a SUV to fit into a budget it would be the Everest but if I had a larger budget it would have been the LC before watching this video, now it would be the defender. Great job.

  • @nickwest2158
    @nickwest2158 Год назад +11

    Wow the Patrol still impresses today, and soooo underrated and the winner (for me). People think it's heavy on fuel and what not, but don't do the math to see you can drive like 250K km before getting to the price of its competitors.

    • @sbGOM
      @sbGOM Год назад +3

      And it comes with a free Missus so who needs a good reversing camera?
      But seriously, how people buy a LC over the Patrol astounds despite its obvious ageing in this company.

    • @oriondoublecrossed
      @oriondoublecrossed Год назад +1

      ​@@sbGOMHave you seen the middle eastern spec? That patrol is lexus lx600 rival. Landcruiser doesnt stand a chance.

  • @richardcharlton8259
    @richardcharlton8259 Год назад +11

    The patrol might be ageing but that vehicle is awesome at towing so stable great power had a ranger be for no comparison V8 power of the patrol unreal

  • @a237032
    @a237032 Год назад +17

    Great video. Would be good to see a table of the GVM, GCM and payload as measured as actual tare can vary so much from the spec sheet.

    • @ajwhite68
      @ajwhite68 Год назад +1

      Hell yeah. It's mentioned in closing, so i thought it would be listed somewhere.

  • @taringaturi6950
    @taringaturi6950 Год назад +6

    Patrol all day! It's a BEAST! I love mine. I didn't buy mine to worry about fuel prices ha-ha

  • @sportsmaster8729
    @sportsmaster8729 Год назад +13

    To me the overall winner is us the viewers 😂.
    But on a serious note thank you Paul for providing us with a very comprehensive test, like I've seen other channels do this and the off-road test especially the off-road test, I've seen many Australian channels doing tests to find out the better off-road vehicle and they claim to have off-road experts that will tell us which car is better off-road but the don't even show the cars during the test they just show a 5 second video of the car and then the "off-road expert" comes and say why X car is better but we never see the car during the test some nonsense test that just shouldn't exist.

  • @jaxlexus384
    @jaxlexus384 Год назад +13

    Some of these 4 pot diesel SUV's might've made 100kmh if you stuck it in to manual mode and let it rev out a little more, def saw it in the Fortuner, Pajero sport and the MUX.

  • @stevens.2574
    @stevens.2574 Год назад +4

    Great job Paul, nothing worthwhile you didn't cover so much preparation went into this test, love how the Patrol is still up there in all areas considering its age.

  • @Anonymous34345
    @Anonymous34345 Год назад +1

    Nearly 2 hours video but watched it at 1.25× speed.
    Not a single second of this video felt boring for me, absolutely brilliant. The making, the camera angles everything was exceptional.
    Well done sir!

  • @camo8768
    @camo8768 10 месяцев назад +5

    Pretty funny that 0-100 of 12 seconds is slow, I've been towing my entire business around for 10 years in a ute that NEVER even gets to 100kmh 😅

  • @thebeerhunter817
    @thebeerhunter817 Год назад +11

    That patrol is a beast

  • @meraboy8322
    @meraboy8322 Год назад +4

    My overall tow vehicle: the evergreen *Nissan Y62 Patrol* , worth every penny for its price, on-& off-road capability & performance, even though more than 10 years after its 2010 introduction 👍

  • @someoneisusing
    @someoneisusing Год назад +1

    Man the effort Paul makes to compare these 4X4. people dont understand what it takes to do so. And yet, they keep suggesting you could have done this, that and more.
    Very amazing job there Paul, thanks for taking time and bringing this to us.

  • @Dags470
    @Dags470 Год назад +11

    I have a Y62 and love that unit more than anything I've ever owned, but this video has raised 2 points for me.
    Firstly, I'm surprised at the SAG factor, because it's a common feeling among Y62 owners that they NEED stiffer rated springs or airbags to tow a half decent load, yet in this test it performed very well in that respect.
    2nd is that the Defender shocked me with its performance, and purchase price and drive satisfaction aside, I'd happily concede that it's a better tow vehicle. Very impressed.

  • @fourbysolo
    @fourbysolo Год назад +10

    Great review. Just wondering if you put the trailer dimensions on to the Defender 110 infotainment, it helps the suspension to adjust to your load for better towing. I've got the 110 P400 and I'm currently towing an off-road caravan with a DO35 Hitch with no wheel cover, so I don't have the issues you did. Plus, I travel solo, so the towing camera is perfect for hitching on. I get around 18-19 litres/100km on the open road. Would have loved to see the V8 110 out there again. Looking forward to the next reviews.

  • @Presto_001
    @Presto_001 Год назад +19

    We have a 2018 MUX and a reasonably newish caravan, and the fuel consumption is actually pretty good but the tank at 60L is too small. We upgraded to a 112L tank a few months ago and has increased our range by over 200km. I honestly think any 4WD that tows 3 or more tons should come with at least a 100L tank.

    • @aaronbutao9543
      @aaronbutao9543 Год назад +6

      You added 52 litre and range increased with 200km? Meaning on the initial tank it was covering almost 250km. Something is wrong i guess

    • @wilkoone9155
      @wilkoone9155 Год назад

      Or a bigger battery!

    • @destroyedsoul1791
      @destroyedsoul1791 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@aaronbutao9543that is when the mux is towing the caravan. The fuel consumption is about 26L/100 km .

  • @greg3095
    @greg3095 Год назад +17

    Love the video. I absolutely love my Patrol Y62 towing 3.1 tonne with ease average fuel sits around ltrs/100

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  Год назад +7

      It’s a beast and makes towing an easy job!

    • @markandkim66
      @markandkim66 Год назад +3

      Your fuel consumption is ??

    • @greg3095
      @greg3095 8 месяцев назад

      on the last 12k trip averaged 23.8 towing 3.1tonne
      @@markandkim66

  • @simbasingh9576
    @simbasingh9576 Год назад +3

    That defender really put a smile on his face😄. Land Rover defender is the winner for me out of all the suvs, it really is a good package

  • @newdefendermods
    @newdefendermods Год назад +18

    Great video and very fair, 300 Cruiser and D300 Defender both did quite well, nice to see the Defender take the win, it trully is a Jack of all trades 4x4. The Auto lowering can be switched off in settings via the Pivo Pro centre screen 👌🏽👍🏽 Thanks for the vid 🙌🏽

    • @fawshaw3361
      @fawshaw3361 Год назад +2

      I was a bit surprised at the result but as you say it is the jack off all trades fair and square.

    • @newdefendermods
      @newdefendermods Год назад +3

      @@fawshaw3361 for sure 😉👍🏽

    • @8U5HM8
      @8U5HM8 Год назад +4

      I think people avoid the Defender not because it isn't good, but rather the reputation of the brand. When we looked at getting our car last year, Land Rover just didn't make the list based on brand reputation criteria (a few others in the same boat).

    • @GrahamPearce-ib9om
      @GrahamPearce-ib9om Год назад +1

      It would be great to compare them again after 200,000 kms and compare total costs over that period.

    • @newdefendermods
      @newdefendermods Год назад +2

      @@8U5HM8 thats a shame, awesome vehicle

  • @darrylmunro96
    @darrylmunro96 Месяц назад

    Best and most professional vehicle comparison test I’ve seen.
    Based on the approach taken in these tests the viewer can make an informed decision on the vehicle they would purchase.
    Thanks to the Carexpert Team, keep these high standard assessments coming!!!!

  • @TB-up4xi
    @TB-up4xi Год назад +2

    We had an Audi SQ7 diesel when we towed our van ......now THAT was a great tow vehicle.

  • @videowsatcher
    @videowsatcher Год назад +6

    A great effort and I can't imagine the planning that had to go into this. Would be good to see carrying capacity after connecting the tow rig

  • @jean-louishamid5285
    @jean-louishamid5285 Год назад +3

    Love the Paj Sport and the Patrol, but I was also really surprised with how the Fortuner performed and "felt". That recent engine boost really made a world of difference.

  • @FJUH
    @FJUH Год назад +8

    There is a couple using a Defender as a tow vehicle for the big lap on RUclips. As good as it is towing the reliability is a real let down, especially for remote travel.

    • @danbowling3953
      @danbowling3953 Год назад +7

      That is one instance, plenty others with no issues, also seen lots of "couples" doing laps with the LC300 with all sorts of issues, oil usage, injector issues due to DPF burns etc.

    • @Speakthetruthplease
      @Speakthetruthplease Год назад

      "Reliabity" is Tupperware Toyota Bullsh$t

  • @petermarten2465
    @petermarten2465 Год назад +7

    Did your Defender testing vehicle have the tow pack? If you enter the trailer dimensions it changes the suspension and provides additional features.

  • @Peter_T123
    @Peter_T123 Год назад +27

    V6 Ranger has been such a disappointment. Plus tons of issues.

    • @catchawakeup6411
      @catchawakeup6411 Год назад +8

      Please educate us on the “tons of issues”?

    • @elusivesambar8657
      @elusivesambar8657 Год назад +3

      Yes would love to know

    • @jarrod1687
      @jarrod1687 Год назад +3

      Correct, v6 ranger is an abomination

    • @Tom3294.
      @Tom3294. Год назад +1

      @@catchawakeup6411plenty of news articles out there. Google it.

    • @simonv8868
      @simonv8868 10 месяцев назад

      100%, we were very disappointed with ours and sold it and purchased a Y62 Patrol

  • @hankelvisimpersonator2832
    @hankelvisimpersonator2832 Год назад +5

    Awesome work as usual team! Would have been handy to show the sticker price of each car. Someone shopping in the SsanYong Rexton price bracket isn't likely to rush out and drop a deposit on a defender.

  • @michaeljennings8009
    @michaeljennings8009 Год назад +6

    Seems to me on a value proposition Patrol wins hands down, what do you think

  • @Chance_It_Oz
    @Chance_It_Oz Год назад +22

    Fantastic review Paul. Appreciate the significant effort to pull this off! Would love to see you do a similar test series for the Yank trucks that can potentially tow bigger loads - Ram 1500/2500, Silverado 1500/2500 and the New Ford F-150…

  • @lobomalo9312
    @lobomalo9312 Год назад +1

    Great comparison, very complete. There are few videos of this type, and none is so detailed. Waiting for the Off Road tests.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  Год назад

      Enjoy 😁 👉 ruclips.net/video/h0Rn0CyHh2g/видео.html

  • @lipcsaiify
    @lipcsaiify Год назад +1

    my favorite here is the breaking test and the hill climb, its fun looking at the cars while braking hard and see how it woggles and shakes!

  • @adammills4343
    @adammills4343 Год назад +8

    Hi Paul - I must say I was very surprised about the difference’s between the 300 series cruiser and the Lexus , on the point of both of the fords , with the 10 speed auto you can actually lock out the higher gears which would help whilst towing , another great vid with great content 👍

  • @aussiefarmer6012
    @aussiefarmer6012 Год назад +3

    These 4 cly models especially, change up gears too early when towing. If worked manually I think most would have reached 100 if left in a lower gear and used a few more revs. Example, the MUX changed up about 700rpm below the redline and then fell into a power hole. Even a diesel needs to rev to get hp towing at speed and up hills.

  • @dc6361
    @dc6361 7 месяцев назад

    I only just realised where your test track is! Lang Lang Proving Ground! Good to see it still being put to use as it’s truly a piece of Australian manufacturing history.

  • @CruzeUK
    @CruzeUK Год назад +4

    Loving these longer test comparison videos.

  • @jamesg3102
    @jamesg3102 Год назад +2

    Awesome video guys! You go above and beyond with how thorough you are with testing!

  • @neilgeikie292
    @neilgeikie292 4 месяца назад

    The Everest Platinum has a huge moon roof and Bang and Olufsen sound system and toe sensing boot opener that Paul did not mention but with so much kit, he gave an thorough explanation.

  • @teamsycon
    @teamsycon Год назад +3

    Had my eye on a Pajero Sport GSR, not so sure anymore. I certainly wouldnt be towing with these loads, but there are some other issues with power and braking that are giving me second thoughts. Even with a 10yr warranty. Great test, thanks for the amazing breakdowns.

    • @DW-10
      @DW-10 Год назад

      I tow 2.8t with a Triton. The 8sp would be an advantage I think. Having said all that, power wise the Triton copes fine at typical NZ towing speeds of 90km/hr. It is working when you push it or there are steep hills. We tested the PS and disliked the soft suspension. Some better shocks I think would make a world of difference.

    • @johnwebster5983
      @johnwebster5983 10 месяцев назад

      I've ordered a Pajero Sport GXL. Will not be towing a 2800kg van. I think the lesson for those vans that wobbled around and struggled with the heavy trailer, tow a lighter trailer or buy a heavier and more powerful, and thus more expensive towing vehicle. I have a folding Avan which will probably weigh about 1100 kg with some payload. It should perform better than the combo in the video.

  • @Sayza_1
    @Sayza_1 Год назад +2

    Eyyy its here! Looking forward to the offroad part of the mega test!

  • @Ishkatan
    @Ishkatan Год назад +4

    I love this type of testing. Really good job. Eventually please combine all your SUV tests (hill, towing, braking, etc.) into an overall report and preference ranking. Maybe have more than one reviewer give an opinion as well.

  • @rangerover06sc
    @rangerover06sc Год назад +1

    The Lexus LX600 uses a full time 4WD system with a 40/60 rear split. So the side with the least traction spins more. It relies on a torsen LSD to control that. Also its exactly the same as the LC300. The difference is the squat

  • @dragonz_breath4072
    @dragonz_breath4072 Год назад +29

    Patrol is king I absolutely love the NA V8.

    • @honda116969
      @honda116969 11 месяцев назад

      Performance is always great with ⛽ but NOT when it comes to ⛽ economy, these diesel trucks (Hilux) will pretty much get as good as a hybrid turbo petrol engine in the 🆕 Gen Tacoma with 2.4L turbo +🔋

    • @dragonz_breath4072
      @dragonz_breath4072 11 месяцев назад

      @@honda116969 mate if you can afford a Y62, you can certainly afford fuel.

    • @honda116969
      @honda116969 11 месяцев назад

      @@dragonz_breath4072 what the hell you talking about I don't drive a y62 I drive a Toyota Tacoma TRD 4X4 off-road 6-speed manual... The diesel Hilux gets around 25-30 mpg my 🛻💨 gets 17-20 city-highway 18 combine! 8-10mpg better is way more + more than 2X the payload & I wouldn't doubt it if it did better off-road that's probably pretty close & I saw that the GR Hilux was just under $39,000 & that's pretty much what I paid for my truck the Hilux was $1,000 cheaper! My Tacoma is the basic 📦 doesn't have any of the 360° 📸 no sunroof no leather or heated 💺💺 I guess if it doesn't have all those goofy features that I probably wouldn't use that's less shit to break down the 🛣️ mine came with all-weather floor mats, side steps, 🛏️ lights, exhaust tip & mud flaps those are just small little additions & make the 🛻💨 look pretty clean & I added the MX4 aluminum tonneau cover & tinted the windows. So you don't know what's in the cab nor don't know what's in the 🛏️ the best thing of all I added the RCI steel transmission skid 🍽️ with 🐈 shields so none of the tweakers can get to my catalytic converters! It's just a mild setup with just a few personal mods that I wanted but I think the Tacoma is VERY beautiful (stock AF) does not need a lift maybe just go to a 265/75 16 10ply tire up from the 70 series tire gives it a 1-in bigger so then you're running on 32-in tires truck is good to go! The only lift I would ever do is the factory TRD lift because you start getting into some wild shit and I don't want my 🛻💨 fucked up. Most people drive their trucks on the street but set them up for off-road 🤔 seems pretty idiotic to me lol unless you're out there off-🛣️ all the time. Manual has some super long gear ratios maybe the throws are a little long but I'll tell you what it's an absolute flawless beautiful transmission I've driven every generation Civic Si all the way from 1999 1.6 VTEC up till the 2019 Civic SI 1.5 turbo! I would hit more grinds & miss shift in those civics then I would my Tacoma I only did one little grind in my Tacoma so far & that was because of me. Just an amazing 🛻💨 If you don't expect too much out of it you will be VERY happy. But if you expect it to be a 🌎 beater you will be disappointed, it's just an average old skool 🛻💨 that's perfect for the old skool men

  • @wilkoone9155
    @wilkoone9155 Год назад

    Fascinating test, well done. I have been pulling trailers for most of my life as a farmer now in my late 70s. I once owned a VW Touareg V10 5ltr diesel which was excellent on the road & usless on the land. I also owned a couple of Subarus Forresters which were brilliant all round 2ltr diesels.
    I currently own a Skoda Enyaq IV80x which is a full electric & tows very well & stable with all that low down weight its very stable & has loads of torque.
    One of my interesting jobs was contract harvesting from Roma Qld to Horsham Vic. Our support vehicle was a Toyota LC Ute 4ltr 6cyl, but all this was back in '87. I'd love to tow the Dyna trailer with my Skoda, but we don't have any in Ireland.

  • @Marks.Reviews
    @Marks.Reviews Год назад +1

    Very good testing you did. A test from say 60 to zero with un-braked trailer to see how good the car’s brakes are with an un-braked load pushing from behind. Although that test might be pushing the limits of safe testing, due to possible jack knifing.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  Год назад

      We did think about that, but it wouldn't be safe so we used an unladen load for braking as a benchmark.

  • @rylancarmichael8030
    @rylancarmichael8030 Год назад +3

    We have a Rexton really happy with it but definitely wouldn’t put 3.5 ton behind it !

  • @cyclemoto8744
    @cyclemoto8744 Год назад +3

    Defender one this test but if still loses on the most basics. If you have a drained battery you'll need a tow truck to take it back to the dealership.

  • @NicholasCox85
    @NicholasCox85 Год назад +2

    I expected that from the Rexton, but the huge surprise is how woeful the Pajero Sport is, even with no load on. Wow. And there are so many on the road, surprisingly.
    Another thing to note with these tests, you have a 2800kg van on the back, but haven't loaded up the car with the family, luggage, etc.... There is no way the Pajero Sport could tow 3100kg, especially with anything in the car.

  • @Alan_Mac
    @Alan_Mac Год назад

    Enjoyable vid - and such detail and hard work! Not surprised the Defender won. I have a 2011 RR TDV8 which I use for towing my daughter's horsebox and our local AD offered me a Defender 110 with the V6 engine - like the one you tested - for a long weekend. The RR is a great tow car so I was a bit sceptical at how the drop in torque would work but I was very surprised at how well it performed. Yes, the Defender doesn't have the RR's road presence and doesn't make you feel as special when you're driving it but it's a very capable car and if I were replacing my RR I'd definitely consider it.

  • @8U5HM8
    @8U5HM8 Год назад +2

    Love the effort you put into these tests and the honest opinion and comments you make. Still working my way through all the cars! Quite a long video.

  • @rsr20t
    @rsr20t Год назад +2

    Great Video. One thing to add to the video would have been reversing, Maneuverability and vision from mirrors with larger trailers. I currently own a D300 110 Defender and tow a car on a trailer regularly. Have to agree with the comments. I've never had an issue with the tow hitch hitting the rear wheel though. A Handy point with the Air suspension for long tail trailers, being able to lower the Car (raising the rear of the trailer) when negotiating steep approach angles to reverse up steep drive ways. This is priceless. Prior to the Defender, I towed with a Skoda Kodiaq RS (diesel version) and I have to say it towed even better than the Defender (particularly in reversing maneuvers) Vision from the side mirrors was excellent and torque and economy for a little 4 Cylinder it was amazing even accelerating when overtaking up some of the inclines of the Hume Highway back from Golborne into Sydney and an average fuel economy under for 10L/100km round trip Sydney --> Marulan and back. Great Video.

  • @malsmith2012
    @malsmith2012 Год назад +4

    Hi Paul did the Landcruiser use oil on the test? My good mate just got rid of his brand new Sahara VX with 8000 kays ( Paid 150 odd k) after seeing his chewing oil hard. Thanks to Jon Cadogan for his video which warned the public as to the extent of the problem.. He got $153k.. Decided to sell immediately before the general public got wind of the problem and values dropped..

    • @zedrizwan
      @zedrizwan 5 месяцев назад

      is that the LC200 v8 or theLC300V6?

  • @michaelan9688
    @michaelan9688 Год назад +1

    Kudos for all the work. Watched from start to finish

  • @sanchaynarain3532
    @sanchaynarain3532 Год назад +5

    Why wasn't Sport mode used in the Fortuner while doing the 0-90 kmph run with the load ?! I certainly believe it would've been the only 4 cyl diesel to reach the 100 kmph mark...

    • @paulmcintosh5589
      @paulmcintosh5589 Год назад

      The only one that doesn’t have AWD funny how others say 140Nm or 133Nm yet performs the same as the 500Nm toyota

    • @sanchaynarain3532
      @sanchaynarain3532 Год назад

      @@paulmcintosh5589 look at the 80-120 kmph figures you’ll see where the other 4 cyls don’t even stand a chance.

    • @paulmcintosh5589
      @paulmcintosh5589 Год назад +1

      @@sanchaynarain3532 Everest is close enough, mux is a better pick solely on the fact it’s 5 star safety rated and toyota is 2-3 at best under the latest tests.

    • @ajishjoseph
      @ajishjoseph Год назад +1

      ​@@paulmcintosh5589 Toyota got 5 safely rating

    • @sanchaynarain3532
      @sanchaynarain3532 Год назад +2

      @@paulmcintosh5589 Fortuner has the required Active safety tech, what’s the point of driving a car with nanny technologies always intervening. The Fortuner gets the 5 star safety already…

  • @Garudaintruda
    @Garudaintruda 3 месяца назад

    I ordered the top-spec Ultra. I went in super sceptical but the fact is, it's a whole lot of car for 65k and GWM is backing it. 7 year warranty, roadside and capped price servicing and is simply better and more comfortable than cars almost double its price.

  • @sbGOM
    @sbGOM Год назад +2

    That Defender has to have the sweetest sounding Diesel anywhere.

  • @BoskiM
    @BoskiM Год назад +3

    LDV knew they would fail miserably hence they refused to lend their vehicle to you 😂😂😅

  • @blacktoothstavros2606
    @blacktoothstavros2606 Год назад +2

    It'd be nice to see towing reviews and roof weights for medium SUVs, including hybrids.

    • @rsr20t
      @rsr20t Год назад +1

      iterestingly, recently went to put a rack system on the roof of my car, after accounting for the Rack weight of 60kg, It only left 40kg of additonal payload weight, was better (and cheaper) to just put traditional roof racks on. As with Towing, Roof Racks are something that are often over loaded.

  • @KarenWelch-zz2lt
    @KarenWelch-zz2lt Год назад

    Great comparisons, thank you for such a diverse and in depth review.

  • @montyspearo
    @montyspearo Год назад +8

    I'd take Patrol or Landcruiser over Landrover when comes to towing because boot door. Top opening doors allows you open it with trailer attached also makes reversing so much easier especially boat down a ramp where you see where it is tracking. This is why I prefer wagons over utes. Relibility wise best sell Defender before factory warranty runs out. Patrol extra fuel costs can be offset against lower service and purchase price compared to Landcruiser. $20k buys lot of fuel can also add $1000 a year from 5% interest that extra $20k could be earning if invested or $1500 if you have to borrow money.
    Like piece on vehicle payload, people forget to add trailer's drawbar weight when calculating this.

  • @sammatthews6447
    @sammatthews6447 Год назад +3

    Everyone is praising Paul for being thorough on his reviews but the dude has no idea how to tow properly. Most of his "towing tests" are super unrealistic. Wouldn't trust him to tow anything. Stick to city cars bud

  • @lennykibet6689
    @lennykibet6689 Год назад

    Amazing review.
    Some feedback but not for this video: really love the acceleration and speedo view in your normal reviews down the back straight of your test track. However, there are some reviews of late that have had it missing.
    Would really love to have that in all reviews as it is a really good way of comparing all the cars in terms of power and speed at the top end. Even the slower vehicles.
    Other than that, love this channel.

  • @mcn0511
    @mcn0511 Год назад +1

    Jeep took off like it has a CVT.. poor form from it for a new model!
    Really good test👍

  • @ptropic1728
    @ptropic1728 Год назад

    Brilliant video
    So much effort put in to achieve the results
    Well done to all involved

  • @jerrymyahzcat
    @jerrymyahzcat Год назад +1

    So you put the Rexton in Power mode with the large trailer but not the LC300 (Sport). You should be using either Normal or Sport/Power on all vehicles rather than different modes on different vehicles.
    Also with the Rexton cruise-control, might have been best to just manually change it down a gear to hold the speed.
    I think you’d find it difficult with the 3500kg max towing vehicles to actually tow that with the family on board. In many cases you can only have the driver and ½ a tank of fuel before you’re overweight. But anyway.
    With the Defender you can disable the Access Height on power off when you are towing and re-enable it after. Most people don’t tow every day.
    Would have been nice to test with the P400 Defender 110 also.
    In the section at the end - probably should note that’s GVM also includes the towball down weight. (Though it was touched on in the Pajero Sport breakdown example).
    Lastly - can’t wait to see V8 Defender, Discovery 5 and Range Rover.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  Год назад +1

      Yes, you’re right. Shouldn’t make much of a difference - at full throttle the drive mode is irrelevant.

  • @VFJET
    @VFJET Год назад

    I think to take all these SUV,s/4x4 dual cabs and do a comprehensive test like this is an awesome effort. Its so hard to please everyone but you take a fair and resonable approach to each car and say it how it is. This is actual consumer advice.

  • @mickcoz1995
    @mickcoz1995 Год назад +2

    A couple of suggestions:
    1) As you did the tow test with a 2800kg trailer with 280kg towball weight it would have been good to have done a run through of the vehicle weights using a 2800kg trailer as a reference;
    2) It would been good to see that wider camera view of all the vehicles as they went through the bumpy section with the trailer attached.
    Other than that I thought it was a great video and will be recommended as reference to many when I'm asked about picking a tow vehicle.

  • @davidgoliath5901
    @davidgoliath5901 Год назад +1

    Paul kudos lots of work put into this test.. BUT being Australia please use imperial mpg when converting Lt/100km not U.S. mpg!! ie; 10 Lt/100km is 28.2mpg imperial but only 23.5mpg US..

  • @leoesposito8762
    @leoesposito8762 Год назад +1

    fantastic stuff guys covered everything these video a hard to do a lot of work involved so well done really good info there..

  • @traulee2123
    @traulee2123 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the effort u put in to make this comparison

  • @philwarwick4287
    @philwarwick4287 Год назад +1

    Why leave out the Mercedes GLE 400d or even the BMW X5. I tow with a merc and it's a great tow car. Caravan, boat, trailer. No issues. Seeing as you mentioned the Range Rover's.

  • @LAWSIE100
    @LAWSIE100 Год назад

    did anyone notice the defender throwing in the centre and rear difflock onroad? How bizarre! Great video!

  • @DarrenBoxhall
    @DarrenBoxhall Год назад +2

    The fuel usage screen is the last thing you want to use to calculate fuel usage

  • @craiggriffiths7278
    @craiggriffiths7278 Год назад

    What a great comparison for us it is the best I have ever seen. I am primarily interested in fuel efficiency at constant load eg towing at highway conditions, so, If you were to do another test. I would like to see a test done with the dyno trailer at 3 different loads at 100 and 80 km/hr . and to record the fuel usage when towing your loaded trailer under real world conditions.

  • @iconiic1234
    @iconiic1234 Год назад +3

    Fantastic comparison, and quite comprehensive. Defender definitely looks to have done a great job, as have the usual contenders, Patrol and Landcruiser.
    It’s disappointing that the Jeep Grand Cherokee, once a great towing option, falling way down the stack. Looks to be a nice package, but really needs the turbo diesel back, or the new straight 6 turbo, or V8.
    Little surprised the Everest V6, while it did reasonably well, didn’t perform a bit higher too.

  • @aamtbadventures
    @aamtbadventures Год назад

    Good comparison of different suv’s Paul. I’ve a pajero sport and happy with it. Wacthing from 🇳🇿Waiting for your off road videos.

  • @christopherclark4774
    @christopherclark4774 Год назад

    From USA here, would have loved to see LC 200 with the old 5.7. Own a Toyota Tundra with the 5.7 and 4.30 rear end, just pulls for days. Even with an 8000lb RV behind it pulled very well up the Poconos going up the mountains. Overall great Video!

  • @davidperks7534
    @davidperks7534 Год назад +1

    I’ve watched this and the off road test. I’d expect something like the Land Rover to do well considering it’s pedigree and also new tech that has developed over the past 10 years in drivetrains and electronic assistance systems. What I find hugely commendable is how well the Patrol did on both, especially considering the age of the platform and the length of its run cycle. Almost disappointing that other brand new platforms with greater tech are only just beating it, if at all. I’d buy a Patrol before a LR based on reputation and reliability. If only Nissan could bring the dash etc into 2023!😁

  • @rajarizal4739
    @rajarizal4739 Год назад

    Great overview. But what would be great n informative, is that to plug in a OBD2, so that could monitor all thr parameters such as engine oil temp, coolant temp, n gbox temp.

  • @damiant5876
    @damiant5876 Год назад +3

    Great comparison and some interesting results. I tow a 2.5t van with a Pajero Sport and upgraded suspension. Its not a speed demon and I reckon the extra 300lg you were towing would be very noticeable. As for the towing limits of all these vehicles they're all pipe dreams. If you tow at each vehicles respective limits then your vehicle payload is often reduced to driver and passenger and not much else. Serious issue of safety also with a 2.5t vehicle towing 3.5t.

    • @StephenFogarty2023
      @StephenFogarty2023 Год назад +1

      Agree
      But, it isn’t illegal to tow 3.5 T, with a 2.5 T vehicle, if the vehicle is tow rated up to 3.5 T.
      🤷🏻‍♂️
      Both the Patrol and Defender can be at GVM, and still tow 3.5 T
      Payload of Patrol and Defender is decent.
      But, if u have a tow ball down weight of 350 kg, and a lot of accessories on the vehicle, then u still need to be very careful to not go over GVM, once u add passengers and luggage etc..

  • @RamosRev
    @RamosRev Год назад +1

    A comprehensive test with great consideration to experimental design. And mentions of little things like the effect of GPS speed vs indicated cruise control 100km/h on fuel economy showed you were thinking about some of the variables which are difficult to eliminate. Kudos. I tow with an old Audi SQ7. Effortless performance and outstanding fuel economy from a car worth way less than some of those on test.

  • @trentmorris2502
    @trentmorris2502 Год назад +1

    The Land Rover is $40k more than the top of the range Everest V6. Can’t see the value in the extra $40k. I was surprised in the stopping distance. Anything above 40m is unacceptable in my opinion. Good comparison. Still waiting on the 7 seat SUV test. The ones that don’t have proper off-road capabilities. Ones like the CX8, Sorrento, Santa Fe, CX9, Tiguan, outlander and kluger

  • @titaniummechanism3214
    @titaniummechanism3214 7 месяцев назад

    Can't wait for you to test some electric utes or SUVs. Of course they lack the range, especially when towing a trailer. But I'd love to see how their impressive performance figures translate into towing and how their high weight and low center of mass affects ride quality and stability when towing heavy loads.

  • @KabirDhupelia
    @KabirDhupelia Год назад +7

    Great video! I’m still 10 minutes in 😄 What was going on with the landcruisers temperature gauge? It seemed to be moving around all the time

  • @user-jd3dx7ef7x
    @user-jd3dx7ef7x Год назад

    Great review! I think the rear axle load capacity on the defender rules it out for big loads

  • @jean-louishamid5285
    @jean-louishamid5285 Год назад +2

    Am I the only one that was pleasantly surprised with the Grand Cherokee's steep slope climb ? It accelerated very well and was keeping on going. The Pentastar is very reliable as well, Getty Adventures (heavy duty mechanic) made 2 interesting vids about this engine. It bviously isn't a very good towing vehicle as of now, but at least as a car it ticks many boxes.