@@jamiemagdeleyns9152 if you do the same mods to a land rover it will again dumpster it off road. I've done a bit of reading and the old tdi engines are bulletproof. As for the old rover v8, the main reason behind blown head gaskets is overheating, which means that a thermostat opening at lower temperature and a gauge that tells you exactly what temp you have will mean you probably won't have that issue until you do around 100k miles. I've been looking at old discovery models in particular and i rarely find ones with under 200k miles. My discovery is also about to reach that point, and it was sat rotting in a field for 10 years.
@@wizcorn9958 To get to the location it obviously took less time. To get the car owners one at a time to avail their day/time for this day is where the effort was deeply taken. The channel deserves more subscribers and views. The host deserves recognition and proper RUclips/sponsor earnings for his excellent work.
Glad it did well. They do have a true transfer case and an active traction control system. Good combo for this test it looks like. E70's have a similar system I believe but a bit more other features and clearly better looks.
Yes, I was especially curious how the X5 would perform, and whether it was a 4.6is or a 4.8is (with xDrive).. I noticed the video states it is a 4.6is, but it does appear to be a 4.8is from the headlights.. If it is a 4.6is, I’m especially impressed. On 315 tires no less!
The wider tires are an advantage. Larger the contact patch the better. 315s are a few inches wider than the other competitors which are typically 245-275. Also not sure how they went about tire selection. Some vehicles didn’t have the same tire they came with from the factory on top of most of them being street tires. Tire selection and size has more of an effect on outcomes than anything.
@@wizcorn9958 R & D for automobiles takes a very long time. For fun I can tell you all the best if you want. The vehicles I'd mention have traction control systems that are either equal to or a little bit Superior
On older cars without Traction control and electronics that can fail, a rear and front diff lock would make up for that… It would have been a fair comparison if diff locks were applied on all cars that can do so and that haven’t got traction controll… specially on the 2007 land cruiser Prado it would have made a massive difference, as you have to adjust the vehicle situation for different terrains… It’s no coincidence that most people going off-roading use old landcruisers, Hiluxes etc…
@@jimi272 Aftermarket lockers are expensive and sometimes unreliable. Nothing fair about comparing an offroad modified car to a stock one. The fact that the "hardcore offroaders" need mods to compete with the "useless crossovers" is embarrassing..
@@CptAngelKGaming I disagree. If you want to do that, a fair comparison, you shouldn’t compare vehicles from different years/decades… comparing all new , let’s say produced after 2015, cars, and similar things with cars from the mid 2000s and mid 90s. That would be a fair comparison. And no, there are indeed landcruisers from that era that had diff lockers installed already. I mean they also put in the low range on the models that had it, a feature that is a must have for off-roading too…
OMG thank you so much. This review mix old and new cars, others not... Now everyone can see how traction control makes a difference in a simply/clearly way. Thank you so much for mixing old and new cars.
I’m really surprised by bmw X5 2002! 1) being the best on-roader among all (as SAV not SUV) but still can manage the off-road like this. 2) The oldest tech among all (2002) but still has beaten the newer ones. 3) The sport tire profile of the car. Really amazing !
I seen some videos where a younger guy buys a beat up X5 and uses it for off-roading and it does pretty good. But most people wouldn't want to abuse their X5 like that.
The LC200 looked like it was equiped with the KDSS suspension, it’s wheel travel was more than enough to keep all wheels in contact with the ground. Some Prados also have this system.
I have a 2022 prado and yes it has kdss centre lock and front and rear lsd’s which almost works like a locker it spins all wheels at the same speed it works very good
The pajero sport did great, I never thought the traction control would be so effective. It would have also been interesting to see a 2021 suzuki jimny in this obstacle course
The traction control system of BMW is superb, despite having little suspension articulation , on road it managed to cross the obstacle very gracefully.
The X5 btw is an 02 model meaning it has no Xdrive but more of a 4x4 system. 04 facelift and up has Xdrive. The X5 in the video also appears to have a facelift conversion for the people confused.
X5 '02 model has planetary gear OPEN center differential (38/62 torque split) so this system must use brakes very hard for front/rear and left/right power split.
I am a bit surprised that the Outback performed so poorly, but the standout were clearly the Volkswagens, for a brand that isn´t considered to be off road inclined, their cars did great, and of course the toyotas did awesome with their traction control
Agree with other comments. It is well known that subarus with CVT have terrible low end torque to overcome obstacles. They are great on snow and mud, but when you need to puy lots of power on 1 or 2 wheels they fail.
That red Skoda looks like it's on dry summer street tires. Amazing that it got up at all. The BMW X5 did surprisingly well even with what looks like basic all season tires.
Some traction control systems have safeties for mechanical components. Smashing the throttle may disable the system so it doesn’t attempt to shock load the drivetrain if it stops one wheel. Sometimes light steady throttle and some patience makes a big difference.
"Yes, lets build an intricate off-road system and then neuter it because our customers are retarded children who will just break it." Whats even the point of these AWD cars anymore...
I found myself stuck in an ascent with my 2014 Montero Sport - without traction control and no rear axle diff lock. Learnt a thing or two, and this vid confirms it.
There's no low range nor diff locks on x5s cz they are not meant to go off road. I'm so surprised that it did a lot better than don't off road worthy cars. Amazing bmw traction control!!
Really surprised that you all did not include anything from Suzuki, especially since they basically pioneered the crossover with their SX4 and to this day the Jimmny and Vitara are widely used worldwide and was one of the first compact SUVs besides Jeep to make an impression.
17:03 cruiser prado also deservs 1 st spot.. Also all offroading features should be enabled on each car when drive starts. What is point of enabling these features when car is stuck and lost its momentum
The XC90 definitely disappointed me. Congratulations to the X5 and Jaguar. Land Cruisers have proven to be the true leaders among SUV vehicles, in every sense of the word 👏💪
Great video. I have always been a fan of low range. Guess because I grew up in a rural area and learnt early how to always take the best lines . But truth be told, from this video it seems that traction control is more important than low range. If both are in place, its a cake walk. Thanks for this video. Subscribed.
Great video as always Diyas! I wish you were dubbing the whole video and not only the intro and outro. By far the most surprising vehicle was the X5. This thing is almost 20 years old and still has one of the best traction control! Really impressive.
I've got a Tiguan and have considered the touareg too. Both are really good off road. All Terrain tyres help a lit as does turning off traction control. This video was painful to watch with traction control on. I feel sorry for the clutches in the manual cars 😭😂😂
For me biggest surprise was 1.8T with more then 300hp 😮 A racket 🚀 But best was BMW X5 2002 V8. Amazing car concept. I'm going to surf some used car for me now 😃
Not at all. A diff lock isn’t needed in anything but the most extreme situations. Also a front diff lock is more effective in most situations to Pull you out rather than push you out.
Both the VW and Jag were impressive but considering being FWD based the Jag was more impressive to me because it seemed the VW needed higher revs and had more wheel spin.
The Touareg isn't FWD based at all. It's full time 4WD with a 50/50 distribution all the time. If it was equipped with the 4Xmotion it also has a locker or multiple lockers from factory.
I have both solid axle and independent suspension, I guess the modern ones are nice instead of solid axle, solid axle just provides that confidence and bitter economy for most of the situations out there.
That 2012 7 seater Land Cruiser with long wheel base just cruised like an absolute king 👑
Thats why its named, Land cruiser....
That’s why I love my land cruiser 😊
The only thing that would absolutely dumpster it off road is a land rover, if you can get a similar age one out of the mechanics shop that is.
@@enjoyingend1939no it wouldn’t don’t you think it’s already clear enough that Aussies only use triple locked cruisers
@@jamiemagdeleyns9152 if you do the same mods to a land rover it will again dumpster it off road. I've done a bit of reading and the old tdi engines are bulletproof. As for the old rover v8, the main reason behind blown head gaskets is overheating, which means that a thermostat opening at lower temperature and a gauge that tells you exactly what temp you have will mean you probably won't have that issue until you do around 100k miles. I've been looking at old discovery models in particular and i rarely find ones with under 200k miles. My discovery is also about to reach that point, and it was sat rotting in a field for 10 years.
One of the best offroad comparison channels needs more support coz imagine how much time it took to gather all these cars
Yeahhy for sure... It shold take too many time.. Outstanding video.
They have 2 channels, second one is larger
It actually only took a couple hours surprisingly.
@@wizcorn9958 To get to the location it obviously took less time. To get the car owners one at a time to avail their day/time for this day is where the effort was deeply taken. The channel deserves more subscribers and views. The host deserves recognition and proper RUclips/sponsor earnings for his excellent work.
I would hoped to see Jeep product
The E-Pace was very impressive!
A little hint of Land Rover Terrain Response Sprinkled into the Traction Control System
Land Rover in a Fancy clothes😊 .don't 4get company is called JLR officially..
No surprise. It’s a JLR.
it is a land rover....
all jaguar are good
X5 really surprised me. Did not expect that outcome one bit.
The E series is based on the L322 Range Rover platform, so surprisingly good.
Not really a surprise either. It should be good.
Glad it did well. They do have a true transfer case and an active traction control system. Good combo for this test it looks like. E70's have a similar system I believe but a bit more other features and clearly better looks.
Though the Facelift went to the BMW xDrive which is worse than the pre LCI.
This is xdrive version after 2004
The award goes for LANDCRUSIER 200 , TOURAEG and X5
The Tiguan surprised me. The Touareg is an understated beast.
BMW X5 traction control is amazing 👌
The Toureg and X5 really surprised me… a great result for both.
The XC90 really disappointed me considering it is so expensive.
Tuareg and X5 do have Torsen, so basically best AWD ever (Audi quattro)
First of all the xc90 its not meant for offroad, its a luxury road car
I agree totally
That 4.8is X5 is BADASS! On 20” wide street tires no less.
It was co developed with the Range Rover so i expected it to do quite well. The engines are the same ones offered when the L322 was on sale
Yes, I was especially curious how the X5 would perform, and whether it was a 4.6is or a 4.8is (with xDrive).. I noticed the video states it is a 4.6is, but it does appear to be a 4.8is from the headlights.. If it is a 4.6is, I’m especially impressed. On 315 tires no less!
wont survive a water crossing due to underfloor battery. This is also how I totaled a GL.
The wider tires are an advantage. Larger the contact patch the better. 315s are a few inches wider than the other competitors which are typically 245-275.
Also not sure how they went about tire selection. Some vehicles didn’t have the same tire they came with from the factory on top of most of them being street tires. Tire selection and size has more of an effect on outcomes than anything.
@@DaveTony206 facelift model is 4.8is
Pajero Sport and X5....unbelievable and easy results! Amazing!
LC 200 did it like a piece of cake . ❤️❤️
That BMW has one of the best traction control systems I've ever seen.
I was just wondering if you’ve seen any better traction control systems yet?
@@wizcorn9958 R & D for automobiles takes a very long time. For fun I can tell you all the best if you want. The vehicles I'd mention have traction control systems that are either equal to or a little bit Superior
Audi's Quattro is good too
@@basilmatheweldhose7623 Indeed.
Such an excellent performance from Tiguan. I'm so impressed
I was amazed that hard core offroaders were beaten by a VW Tiguan and BMW X5. Shows how useful traction control is.
On older cars without Traction control and electronics that can fail, a rear and front diff lock would make up for that…
It would have been a fair comparison if diff locks were applied on all cars that can do so and that haven’t got traction controll… specially on the 2007 land cruiser Prado it would have made a massive difference, as you have to adjust the vehicle situation for different terrains…
It’s no coincidence that most people going off-roading use old landcruisers, Hiluxes etc…
@@jimi272 Aftermarket lockers are expensive and sometimes unreliable. Nothing fair about comparing an offroad modified car to a stock one.
The fact that the "hardcore offroaders" need mods to compete with the "useless crossovers" is embarrassing..
@@CptAngelKGaming I disagree. If you want to do that, a fair comparison, you shouldn’t compare vehicles from different years/decades… comparing all new , let’s say produced after 2015, cars, and similar things with cars from the mid 2000s and mid 90s. That would be a fair comparison. And no, there are indeed landcruisers from that era that had diff lockers installed already. I mean they also put in the low range on the models that had it, a feature that is a must have for off-roading too…
Subaru toujours aussi performant même si le Forester aurait été préférable
The YETI suprised me!!!!
Wow.. X5, who expected that one. Very nice.
OMG thank you so much. This review mix old and new cars, others not... Now everyone can see how traction control makes a difference in a simply/clearly way. Thank you so much for mixing old and new cars.
While others are struggling, the Landcruiser LC200 just pass by like it drive on a normal road.
it is obvious, because tlc 200 is a "true" frame based off-road SUV, that has a higher suspension travel than crossovers
I’m really surprised by bmw X5 2002!
1) being the best on-roader among all (as SAV not SUV) but still can manage the off-road like this.
2) The oldest tech among all (2002) but still has beaten the newer ones.
3) The sport tire profile of the car.
Really amazing !
BMW always had outstanding AWD system distribution managing to compensate the lack of low range transfer case and locking diffs in many cases.
It was developed alongside The range rover so it mostly uses land rover tech.
yeah but the landcruiser with the similar engine still performed better
I seen some videos where a younger guy buys a beat up X5 and uses it for off-roading and it does pretty good. But most people wouldn't want to abuse their X5 like that.
@@hyphed4196 range rover mostly uses bmw tech. And drivedrain is different. Range rover using own and BMW using own
Jaguar was a surprise. The newer Toyotas are very good.
Disappointed by the Subaru outback the legendary AWD
Jaguar was the best
Best practical real life review of AWF systems I’ve seen so far. Keep up the good job!
The LC200 looked like it was equiped with the KDSS suspension, it’s wheel travel was more than enough to keep all wheels in contact with the ground. Some Prados also have this system.
Every Prado (LC150) that we get in North America (as the Lexus GX) has KDSS as standard.
I thought that's standard equipment
I have a 2022 prado and yes it has kdss centre lock and front and rear lsd’s which almost works like a locker it spins all wheels at the same speed it works very good
Beautiful X5 😍 these E53 getting very rare in northern Europe these days, especially in imola Red.
BMW x5 e53 é o MEU favorito
Plentiful in junkyards?
Proud BMW 1 series watching the big papa representing the family very well.
The pajero sport did great, I never thought the traction control would be so effective. It would have also been interesting to see a 2021 suzuki jimny in this obstacle course
This is no obstacle for a jimny, that's a specified small off roader
jimny would destroy this "obstacle"
Pajero are good 4wd but the old v6 is not a survivor.
How would the Suzuki grand vitara do? How does it rank here?
@groundcontrol5365 the older ones did very well offroad, the 2005 -2008 , I'm not sure about the newer ones which are mild hybrid.
Lmao, that 340hp Skoda’s driver was crazy 😂 Might need to check his diffs after that one, haha.
Full send 😂
I can hear Jeremy Clarkson shouting POWER on that part
The E-Pace was a surprise... only if you forget it's the same company as Land Rover. Now it makes sense!
The traction control system of BMW is superb, despite having little suspension articulation , on road it managed to cross the obstacle very gracefully.
The X5 btw is an 02 model meaning it has no Xdrive but more of a 4x4 system. 04 facelift and up has Xdrive. The X5 in the video also appears to have a facelift conversion for the people confused.
This X5 is 2002 but with 2004 front ;-)
X5 '02 model has planetary gear OPEN center differential (38/62 torque split) so this system must use brakes very hard for front/rear and left/right power split.
Would the Xdrive e70 do better due to newer traction control mapping? Or will do worst. I will wait for the test :)
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I would love to see a video with both you and Suv battle.
@@amateurtorque6709 It would be great to cooperate with Diyas but Kazachstan is a little bit too far away from Poland 🙂
The VW Touareg and Prada was impressive but the Landcruiser is an absolute beast!!!
And that's why I own one... With the 5.7
@@DanK1977 what year
@@RK1FX 2013 with KDSS, 2" OME suspension and 33" tires. Next up is bumpers...
No grand cherokee shame
You took your sweet time to post this video but we appreciate you for what you do.
That X5 though. Surprise Surprise👌🏼
Toyota being Toyota.... but, the x5 was a surpassingly contender +respect o7
I am a bit surprised that the Outback performed so poorly, but the standout were clearly the Volkswagens, for a brand that isn´t considered to be off road inclined, their cars did great, and of course the toyotas did awesome with their traction control
Absolutely, I usually don't like their cars, but they performed stellarly here.
No surprise whatsoever. That generation Outback is beyond hopeless with that CVT. Proven multiple times by multiple YT channels and outlets.
Agree with other comments. It is well known that subarus with CVT have terrible low end torque to overcome obstacles. They are great on snow and mud, but when you need to puy lots of power on 1 or 2 wheels they fail.
Volkswagen's 4motion system is no joke
Triggered Subaru owners will claim it’s the driver’s fault
This is the RUclips channel that I have been looking for so much 😍
Great video as usual, shame on Subaru and respect to the Jaguar E- pace and BMW X5. Greetings from Canada!
Shitty CVT
I really like the comparisons here on the channel. Without a doubt the best comparison channel.
Great thanks for your feedback! What cars would you like to see in the future videos?
@@SUVBattle I have 2 suggestions.
1- test the BMW X7
2- It would be really cool to use a Drone to show the maneuvers from above too.
I was impressed by the old BMW. But I think I'd have the most fun driving that little Skoda around.
The 2019 mitsubishi pajerosport passed with flying colours. Happy to have one.
So happy now with my x5 2001 3.0i, lol. Its my second one, never missed power. Getting the under body cover seen myself and general grabbers.
I'm impressed by X5 performance in this video i mean that car was not meant for offroading but still managed to make impressive results.
From this test we learn that you need power and traction control to climb slippery slope
In suv category toyota land curiser is best 😍
Land Cruser 200 was the best surprise for my money !!
The Yeti and Tiguan surprised me a lot
That red Skoda looks like it's on dry summer street tires. Amazing that it got up at all. The BMW X5 did surprisingly well even with what looks like basic all season tires.
That X5 looked sick
Some traction control systems have safeties for mechanical components. Smashing the throttle may disable the system so it doesn’t attempt to shock load the drivetrain if it stops one wheel. Sometimes light steady throttle and some patience makes a big difference.
"Yes, lets build an intricate off-road system and then neuter it because our customers are retarded children who will just break it."
Whats even the point of these AWD cars anymore...
The Jaguar E-Pace looks dope! Great Episode btw ❤️
I love these videos. Some of these cars are very disappointing considering the technology they have. They're just as effective as old cars or worse.
lol LC200 "constantly had all 4 wheels always in contact with the ground"
I found myself stuck in an ascent with my 2014 Montero Sport - without traction control and no rear axle diff lock. Learnt a thing or two, and this vid confirms it.
The land cruiser 200 : looks like you guys having fun here let me join 🤓
Mercedes GD : here let me show you how Its done
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Казахи неплохой контент собрали, респект!
Да, красавчики
My beloved Subaru 😥😥 they really need to ditch that CVT. The BMW always surprises of how good it is, even the X3 was impressive. Great content.
Hopefully they'll go back to hydrokinematic transmissions and use Aisin automats if Toyota are serious about owning them.
I say an 8 speed or 10 speed automatic is better than a CVT while still being fuel efficient
From 1994 to 2000 BMW owned Land Rover. That X5 result might have a lot to do with that fact. Amazing result 👍
Great variety of vehicles tested. Great to see how a wider spectrum of vehicles cope.
Love this videos thank you!
The X5 did rather good without low range and locking difs
There's no low range nor diff locks on x5s cz they are not meant to go off road. I'm so surprised that it did a lot better than don't off road worthy cars. Amazing bmw traction control!!
@@sarkismjalli8408 BMW makes really really good cars
Yeah. The V8 also helped a ton
That’s because you don’t need Low Range and Locking diffs to be good off-road.
@@creatineenjoyer7345 at really high prices!
that E-pace absolutely destroyed the competition!!! Great video! :)
The best and perfect OFF-ROADing test channel I have seen💯💯💯love your videos ❤️
This is the comparison I was actually looking for!! 👍
Really surprised that you all did not include anything from Suzuki, especially since they basically pioneered the crossover with their SX4 and to this day the Jimmny and Vitara are widely used worldwide and was one of the first compact SUVs besides Jeep to make an impression.
17:03 cruiser prado also deservs 1 st spot..
Also all offroading features should be enabled on each car when drive starts.
What is point of enabling these features when car is stuck and lost its momentum
Great video again, these are highly appreciated!
I did not expect the X5 to perform
The XC90 definitely disappointed me. Congratulations to the X5 and Jaguar. Land Cruisers have proven to be the true leaders among SUV vehicles, in every sense of the word 👏💪
Touareg is really an offroad
4x4 💪💪💪
Absolutely amazing job by the Jag!
The Overall winner is the Baby Pajero that went First..considering it had only 80BHP to tackle this tough terrain👏
Great video. I have always been a fan of low range. Guess because I grew up in a rural area and learnt early how to always take the best lines .
But truth be told, from this video it seems that traction control is more important than low range.
If both are in place, its a cake walk.
Thanks for this video.
Subscribed.
No doubt, & is proven, that LC200 is the clear & sure winner 🏆
X5 did not disappoint either, good job!
Спасибо Диас , отличный контент
That's an awesome video brother
Let's stand in awe for BMW's traction control system. What a machine!
Fully surprised about the Yeti (the first one) - this simple 4x4 with haldex 4th generation - very effective
That was brilliant we need more
Great video as always Diyas! I wish you were dubbing the whole video and not only the intro and outro.
By far the most surprising vehicle was the X5. This thing is almost 20 years old and still has one of the best traction control! Really impressive.
Land Cruiser = King 🙌 of all time......
X5, tuareg and land cruiser 💪💪💪
I was surprised by the poor work of subaru outback and the good work of skoda, great video .. thank you.
Toyota land cruiser 200 V8 makes me proud 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👑👑👑👑👑👑💪💪💪💪💪💪
Диас, моё почтение! Самый лучший канал про оффроад. Паджеро спорт 2019 лучшее соотношение проходимость/цена.
I've got a Tiguan and have considered the touareg too. Both are really good off road. All Terrain tyres help a lit as does turning off traction control. This video was painful to watch with traction control on. I feel sorry for the clutches in the manual cars 😭😂😂
Tiguan ain't really for offroading. The touareg however is a different beast.
Jaquar e is such amazing performance
great job!! i can understand the hard work u might have done to put all these car together.
Can you do a video with 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara.
For me biggest surprise was 1.8T with more then 300hp 😮 A racket 🚀
But best was BMW X5 2002 V8. Amazing car concept.
I'm going to surf some used car for me now 😃
In this test we can clearly see that something as simple as a real difflock is essential to off road driving
Not at all. A diff lock isn’t needed in anything but the most extreme situations. Also a front diff lock is more effective in most situations to Pull you out rather than push you out.
Great video!!
Both the VW and Jag were impressive but considering being FWD based the Jag was more impressive to me because it seemed the VW needed higher revs and had more wheel spin.
Not surprising for the Jag. It’s Jaguar Land Rover after all.
The Touareg isn't FWD based at all. It's full time 4WD with a 50/50 distribution all the time. If it was equipped with the 4Xmotion it also has a locker or multiple lockers from factory.
@@C_R_O_M________ I know…I was referring to the Jag
@@C_R_O_M________ similar to how a Subaru works.
Nice video and an interesting competition. Happy to know my 200 series came through as if there was no obstacle … the tiguan and yeti very surprising…
X5 sounds dope
Great competition, I was surprised by the jaguar suv. But still I am confident with the MIT pajero.
Damn the '19 Pajero Sport was much better than I would've imagined... but the older generations kinda disappointed me
Recent Pajero Sport is great value for money capable vehicle.
try DT2.4 diesel 430Nm, even better
I've been watching your videos for a while your English has improved immensely. What's your secret?
Considering most of these vehicles don’t have solid axels, front and back locking diffs and are on road tires, they perform pretty well
I have both solid axle and independent suspension, I guess the modern ones are nice instead of solid axle, solid axle just provides that confidence and bitter economy for most of the situations out there.
Amazing video, folks!
The jaguar is the biggest surprise
What if the toyota and mitsu had arb front and rear diff locks ?
It they get arb diff locks then could pass the obstacle as easy as G-wagen from this video: ruclips.net/video/NvyVhDw5ixw/видео.html
The Scoda flew to the next mountain 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. I was searching for something like this from a long ago.