Milwaukee M18 High Output HD12.0 Battery - Does It Increase Speed And Power?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Milwaukee M18 High Output HD12.0 Battery - Does It Increase Speed And Power?
Today we test the new Milwaukee HD12.0 Battery on the 1/2'' impact wrench to see if the bigger battery increases the power and speed on this tool. We also used a XC5.0 battery in this test to show the differences. These are some pretty incredible results! Let us know what you think in the comments section below!
I'm a heavy engine mechanic and I can tell you that using the 12.0 definitely gives you more power than the 5.0. I was unsuccessful at removing 90% of the head bolts on a QSK60 Cummins using the 5.0. With the 12.0 my 1/2" impact didn't skip a beat and removed all of the head bolts. I hope this helps you guys make a decision.
Thx man👍
Head bolts ?? Fudge my 1/2 could remove head bolts on a isx15 , I had to bring out the 3/4 breaker bar and cheater bar
It does depend on the tool, task, and batteries being compared. Sometimes the tool isn't getting all the power it can use and sometimes that isn't a factor at all.
I agree 👍. I used the 12.0 on my 3/8 mid torque (overkill) on some 5/8" bols covered in asphalt and tar and the 5.0 didn't match what the 12.0.did...it was kinda scary 😂😂😂
Glad you guys did this video. I think trying the new 6.0 to see how it compares against the 9 and the 5 would be great too. Considering the 6.0 is High Output I’d be interested to know if it beats the 9.0 on the original high demand tools like the miter saw.
12 Ah battery = 90A discharge rating
5 Ah battery = 40-45A discharge rating
High torque impact wrenches can draw ~35-40A+ continuous current. (burst current is typically higher, usually 50A+, but that's for a split second)
if you don't hit the batteries near their peak discharge rating then the voltage doesn't sag as much. Which means the tool doesn't bog down. This is basically what you're seeing, a battery that's able to comfortably handle a constant load that's well under 2/3 of what it can handle in the most extreme conditions. (like on the newer chainsaw or circular saw)
Lag screws make this more evident because you tend to hit the batteries for a longer duration of time. With lug nuts you usually break the nut loose almost immediately then the tool just spins it the rest of the way off.
So typical use in automotive means that the 12 Ah battery offers little to no noticeable benefit. Most people don't buy these to run lag screws so that's probably why Milwaukee isn't marketing them as a performance enhancement. And you're looking for a serious case of RSI by adding even more weight for your wrist to deal with. So they probably want to wait and push these larger batteries with their new 1" impact wrench since that thing gives people a side handle to hold onto when they operate the impact.
You should compare these against a 2.0 Ah battery though. (2.0 Ah batteries are rated at 25A, typically) That would give people an even better idea of how a high drain tool performs when it's drawing from a 1P battery that can't feed the motor properly.
Sounds like awesome input thanks!!
I've come across many situations where I could not break the bolt free with 2.0 1p battery then popped in a 5.0 2p battery and it took of the bolt. With both mid torque and high torque impact wrench.
Also would love to see the two run a m18 sawzall which is a very high load tool
I have the second Gen 1/2 impact... I tried using both of my 8 year old 1.5 AH M18 batteries on it. Yah what a joke.. the batteries actually error out if I use the tool to remove or install lugs. The 1.5 AH batteries work great in my brushless 1/4" impact driver but in order to get good performance out of the 1/2" wrench I use the 9 AH battery.
Impact wrench he used is a 1/2 inch . yeah the 12 ah is considerably heavy in comparison to the 5 ah . I would recommend the 6 ah as a comparison .there is a performance difference in the tool
I have a 12.0 with my fuel surge brushless impact amazing results I work in the solar industry and it definitely comes through and does the job!!!
I just bought the 12Ah battery because I want a battery that will last ME about a full week at my use rate. Speed and umph is a bonus. Or to chuck it at a go-worked when they need some extra juice for the days where I need all that energy.
Great video just what I wanted to see I have the Gen 2 one key version of that impact gun. And it does seem more powerful when I put bigger batteries in.would like the new 6.0 ho battery to use with it.
Im a mill Wright, I work on gas and steam turbines. Time and time again the 12.0 breaks and torqued things the 5.0 can't. Very noticeable difference in my line of work. I have even noticed a difference on the Fan. And it will run for close to 8 hours on high. Hope this helps.
Great testing..... was not sure if the bigger batteries really made a difference in power, guess I got my answer. Keep up the great work.
I switched my m18 mid torque from the red XC lithium to the high out put 6.0 and noticed a huge difference in removing lugs to tire and other services . the out put is higher and lasts longer too compared to the 5.0 red lithium battery worth the investment . I want to see how the 3.0 high out put does in compared to the other high out puts
Love the video Vince Bro it’s mad to think that 12amp Battery will work better Then a 5amp in a impact gun thank you so much for the entertainment
Thanks Steven!!
Just ordered mine!!!
The high output batteries give the most advantage to motor only tools. Impacts rely a lot on the impact. The impact works regardless of the motor…so while you’re still getting a benefit because the motor is able to draw more, the impact part still requires a certain amount of time between impacts and the impact itself doesn’t get stronger with more battery umf.
🚧Vince you can hear the difference between the 5.0 and 12.0. that was a cool test. How is the weight of the 12.0? Did you guys get any data on the or have thoughts on battery usage, the 5.0 used 1 bar for the 1/2" lag did the 12.0 stay full? Thanks Guys! Always good stuff going on here! ⚒
HD 12.0 is kind of heavy for most tools. Awesome for stationary tools and heavier tools like you show. Also good for lights. It just takes a long time to charge. I have some CP 3.0 batteries that made about the same difference over the normal 2.0 batteries for smaller tools. (30% - 50% more power). Good demonstration.
i got more umph out of my 1/2' useing 9.0 also!
😂😂😂😂 I love the way you say "identical" as u clap your hands, a my cousin vinny reference, priceless and classic!
I have a pretty awesome setup!
I have a portable power station, 2 M18 12.0ah batteries and a rapid charger. When 1 battery is depleted I can use the other one and while using the fresh one I use the power station to charge the other!
At first I was disappointed. The power station reads power output in watts. The first 5 minutes it's saying 5watts. I'm thinking it'll take all day! About 20 minutes it's reading 150watts! It charged this HUGE battery in just under an hour!
Now THATS what I call superservice!
Milwaukee need to make a battery powered space heater!
Battery comparison request
9.0 HD vs 6.0 HO
( if I missed it can I get a link 👍🏼 )
Lunch i dont think the 6.0 ho batt is avail yet, thats a test id like to see and id like to try myself!
paul w xc6.0 been out for awhile.
In mechanic work at the shop the 9.0 and 12.0 perform better in the impact wrenches. Even made my worthless 3/8 milwalkee (older model) with the 5.0 run better. Tanks though
Big nut buster..... Big battery..... That is awesome I reckon I could take my rusten on leaf springs with that thing
That would get the job done for sure!!
Reason this happens is because the voltage is less likely to sag when the tool is under heavy load. In a 2ah battery the voltage will sag way more in comparison to the 12ah under load
ledhendrixman doesn't explain why 9.0 is slower than a 5.0
Meaning I have 5 9.0 batteries and see that the 3.0 and the 5.0 out puts a bit more power. I notice it when I'm buffing and grinding. I just get a heck more runtime with the 9.0
Vince if you ever put the ryobi brushless hammer drill 3 speed impact driver and hp batteries on it will make it even better and more faster and destroy the ridgid brushless impact driver
👽 alien technology!!
no it wont richard...ridgid has a 9.0 hd battery...put that on the ridgid and it will destroy that ryobi gobbage 🤣
You had a 9.0 right there. I wish you would have tried the test with that one also!
We can do it if you’d like a follow up??
That would be awesome
@@jps101574 just did the same test I got 38 seconds out of it bud
Didn't doubt it but what's the list of those tools
I'll see about putting together a comprehensive list!!
Try the batteries on the vac....you may hear the noise increase (use phone with db reading)...from this test I could hear and see the 12.0 was spinning faster. If I ever buy batteries I will be getting the new 6.0 HO vs the 9.0 HD.
I can hear and feel a difference in my tea kettle style Milwaukee vacuum when I use 2.0 to the 5.0 and the 9.0
What about long term performance and run time after say 100 charges. I use my tools professionally so they get used. I'm more curious about longevity through life of battery
We’ll make a long term review!
I'm not a professional contractor or entrepreneur or tool expert so I don't really care about the power the tool gets, I'm all about battery life and lasting power with a tool. One of my pet peeves for batteries is having to constantly recharge it. I gave away a my 1.5 amp batteries that came with my Milwaukee impact driver and I upgraded to a 9amp battery. The 9amp battery was worth every penny I paid for it!!!!
Well they’re not IDENTICAL!! Good video Vince.. Work smarter not harder.. And work out those biceps as well with the 12.0!
Identical!!
Would love to see this test with a grinder, Just by the feel in the hands and test the harder you press down on it weather it bogs down or not.
5ah Vs 9ah Vs 12ah That would be brilliant!
quick question. When you drove the last lag with the 12ah battery, were the holes where you used a auger underneath?? in the pressure treated 6x6.
PC now that you mention it, I’m gonna have to check the spot!!
@@VCGConstruction 9ah is great on fuel grinder. Haven't tried the ho 12.0 yet
Smashed the Like Button !!!!!!
Thanks Raider Nation!
Great video I have the 2767 with only 2 of the 9.0 ah batteries & its a beast I think weight of 12.0 would be annoying though
It it doesn’t require the 12.0ho I say save the weight and run a 9
Or run the new 6.0Ah HO, best of both worlds.
Good call nytron!!
What model is the impact you are using in this video? If it's the high torque, I highly recommend this socket kit for ball hitch nuts (or in your case if you want to do some torque tests) goo.gl/XKTBdM. You could probably find the point through trial and error where the impact will not take off a bolt unless you use the HO battery.
Thanks for this video my
CP battery was not doing the job I will get a 9.0
Real tool reviews did a test with 2amp 4amp and 6amp dewalt batteries he has equipment to test speed and power he tested the 20v miter saw and with each battery from 2 to 6 the speed increased and he tested the impact wrench and it increased in power with each battery
Thanks Boys!
You got it coupe!
Milwaukee please make a m18 laser rust remover and a induction fastner remover.....
im suprised those 1/2' lags did not break pounding them in
I’ve seen noticeable difference between the 5.0 XC and my 8.0 HO batteries
12.0 battery will make Milwaukee great again !!!
That thing is a beast!!
Do some videos with the different m12 batteries.
Love it
I love that big boy my brother lol,Hey awesome tool I love power bro yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lol :)
Here and i am using a 2Ah with that impact
Me to lol
“AND YOU, HULK HOGAN, HIT ME OVER THE HEAD FROM BEHIND, ON WCW NITRO, LAST WEEK! HOGAN! IM COMING FOR YOU!”
Well that was surprising... it really seemed to do it faster lol
Definitely, but according to Milwaukee it’s not supposed to!!
I have Milwaukee M18 one for XC 6.0AH, not need big battery, one for HD 9.0AH and one for HD 12.0AH high output Big battery, not need 5.0ah or less, Milwaukee M18 batteries ONLY for torchlights
The bigger batteries do come in handy for the light! Which lights do you have?
I have more torchlights, try on RUclips.com: Milwaukee M18 and dewalt flexvolt 20/60V with 12AH
Another thing you might want to consider is electric motors are more efficient after they’ve warmed up they require less power drawl to get a greater output.
Prestige world wide wide wide battery testing testing testing...
Boats N Batteries
Good stuff Vince, that impact wrench is a beast. Too bad it is so expensive lol
Gotta get it on clearance Brandon!!
world renowned ??
You know it cuz!!
Vince did you try it on your lug nuts yet that's a tool I keep in my car with some sockets for my lug nuts impact rate of course because the sooner you can get off the side of the road this soup Better Off You Are
don't have a skid mark where. what the ...lol
😂😂😂
hey vince. just messing around. love the channel. keep it up!
That was hilarious, me and Nick were cracking up!!
If u can push more amps thru a tool your gonna see better performance from it. Its like running different grades of fuel in an engine.
The 12 is definitely faster🚀
Light speed cuz!!
How can afford to waste them 2x4's
Could at least drill it straight
Smooshed and smashed
Thanks Alex!!
BAAAM !
HO batteries has a higher/longer lasting power curve than the HD ones. Charging cycles also reduces/lowers this curve.......not quickly but over the lifespan of the batteries. There is new battery technology being developed as we speak, most notably by the inventor of lithium-ion technology that will make l-ion batteries a thing of the past like NiCad batteries has gone. These solid state batteries w/o any electrolytes will be stronger, build no heat, faster charging and last longer than what we have today. Look into the electric/hybrid vehicles field and solar batt storage (like the Tesla PowerWall) area where these batts will make their first appearance. The future for a less expensive rechargeable battery is super bright.
boilednuts That's spooky 👻👻👻👻👻LOL..
Well the timer proved the 12 is definitely faster🚀 looks faster with the eye test too..
Bobby my bro, actually li-ion batts are way scarier. They tend to overheat with use and when not regulated will either vent their electrolytes or explode/catch fire. Electrical/hard shorts would also create the same scenario. That's why shipping by air is regulated (I guess they don't mind if a boat sinks, a train/truck catches fire) and disposal is a concern. I've had a li-ion battery vent on me already but luckily it didn't explode. Lemme tell ya....that sucker gets hot and continues to vent for a while. Imagine if a whole battery pack started to vent....I'd scream like a little girl. This won't be a problem with the new solid state design. You'd be able to use that power tool till the battery is discharged. Yeah buddy, no more thermal shutdowns! Vince gonna love that. Estimated to be able to recharge between 100-200k times, bro that's a lifetime. The possibilities with these can and will boggle the mind. The sooner the better is what I say.
boilednuts Right on, good stuff man...
boilednuts. solid state batteries will and do have electrolytes, it's just in a solid medium vs liquid as they are now.
you're right though, they'll be so much more faster, durable, and safe since they won't overheat as much. aaand since theres no liquid, the anode cathode and electrolyte will all be compacted together allowing for more voltage/amp combos
downside though is they're at least 5 years out.. they'll be expensive af when they do come out tho..
can't wait