Your BUYING and USING Milwaukee M18 Batteries ALL WRONG! (stop doing this)
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- We show the #verycoolgang how some people have been buying and using Milwaukee M18 batteries all wrong. We are making this video to help out the Milwaukee users that are not getting the most out of their tools and their money. Have you ever wondered why some batteries are they same size but have way different amp hours in them? We answer that question and more, like which Milwaukee M18 batteries are no obsolete in this video.
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Your BUYING Milwaukee Tools M18 FORGE Battery with WRONG EXPECTATIONS (stop doing this)
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The is guy is the equivalent of a keyboard with the caps lock permanently stuck on.
Well when the in game lobby music is that loud wherever he is, you gotta talk loud.
Lol
The intro...smh. it's why I work for myself in construction.
Hahahaha!!
You nailed the description of this guy.
This man’s passion for Milwaukee battery usage is nothing less than inspiring.
The impact drill is a pleasure to use, day in and day out.
HAHAHAHA
Honestly I think He took 3 lines of blow right before filming.
@@Loadedgoods: Last time I saw someone this ‘animated’ he was on the back end of a crack pipe, lol.
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Electrician here, I made the change from Dewalt to Milwaukee 2 years ago. And the performance and quality has been night and day. Been investing in batteries as of late and the HO batteries are amazing. I do shutdowns pretty often and use my 5.0s for my lights and the HO 3.0s on the cable cable cutters, impact, and drill. 2.0s on the cable strippers and 6.0s on the vac (for longer runtime) its amazing how much more efficient everything is having the right tools. Lol
Good choice. I used to manage a fleet of trucks, toolcrib and warehouse for a larger company in Alberta, Canada and all of the power tools were Milwaukee. And our guys were super rough on tools lol.
I was never one to buy brand name but Milwaukee has blown me away. Now I've made the switch and everything I own is from them 😁
I enjoy Milwaukee Tools am also an Electrician. Will 3.0 HO battery on a fuel hammer drill using a 1 inch auger bit to drill wood studs work? I use a 5.0Xc battery on my hammer drill.
@@mikedimarco3008 I don't care what anyone says. That 3 amp battery will be dead on that drill right away.
i thought you said milwaukee to dewalt at first and i was going to shit on your beliefs
This must be a lie cause what are you using a shop vac for? electricians don’t clean up😂
Vince is so animated that he requires safety glasses while talking. 👀
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He’ll put his eye out with those hands Kid!
So true!
He's so animated I need ear plugs. 😂😂😂
Póngalo en español por favor
When you pulled out that light I thought Milwaukee came out with an M18 bazooka.
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Me too lol
HAH! IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
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Neither me the last one! Lol
One day my friend, one day.
This is what I needed. I am fairly new to the Milwaukee brand and was so confused by all of the battery offerings. Some tools came with the 5.0XC and others came the 8.0 battery. I will keep all this in mind when I am in the market for batteries.
As steel construction worker. I have to say there’s still an upside to having 5.0 batteries. Putting a 6.0 makes your tool significantly heavier. Plus it throws off the balance of your tool. (1/4 impact,1/2 drill specifically) proper balance makes putting in screws in awkward angles way easier. And the the lifetime of a 5.0 is still really good
I agree with you
yeah i put up signs for a living and you can have all the power you'd like ... are you willing to snap yoru wrist for it when the screw you need to tap is at an upside down angle
Agreed. Thanks to Vince, I'm now hunting for discount prices of the lightweight Red Lithium *XC* *5.0* Batteries on Amazon. As a Sign Painter who's sometimes up 27 feet with one hand on the ladder and my other hand working a Milwaukee, I look like a trained Monkey. I need way less ounces in my hand and more *Bananas* for Lunch.
@@designertjp-utube Dewalt atomic with powerstack 🙏🙌
My crewmate has 3.0s and 5.0s. The 3s are okay on the nail gun but the 6 1/2 saw doesnt have the balls to cut much without a 5.0
Reason to run XC5.0, because it's the damn battery I have.
If its not damaged, is it still a good one. 🤷
True if I’m on the job and my bigger battery dies I’m using the small one until the job is done or the big battery is charger
There is barley any difference in the battery's anyways..
@Ben I Good enough reason for me 🤷
@@m2rkiller not true in some cases. I have the super hole hawg right angle drill. My 3.0 battery can not handle my 3" forstner bit. But if I put my 8.0 on there, drills through like butter
3.0 and 5.0 for one handed tools, 8.0 for two handed and 12.0 for stationary stuff. I still feel like the 5.0 is versatile and not obsolete. Significantly smaller than the 6.0 and 8.0 while having more runtime than the 3.0
Pretty much what you need to know and it only took common sense and 30sec to read.
BTW-Did you type this while wearing safety glasses and waving your arms around?
I have 6.0 which is same size as 5.0.
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@@rbfarmer4522 AWESOME!! I only made it :70 seconds into the video before I had to stop it. I knew it was going to irritate the living crap out of me and was hoping someone would summarize it.
Nice Thank You.
Just found your channel and now I’m 10 videos deep. Can’t get enough of this detailed info that is consumers need!
You gotta talk about the difference between the XC6.0 and XC8.0 batteries. Same cell count, but different amp output ratings. The 6.0 can put out more amperage at less voltage drop, the 8.0 can deliver longer run-time. The 6.0 is superior for high-load tools like saws
And he is not mentioning the Hypo batteries also use diff chargers too. I found that out the hard with Rigid crap. Stay with Makita. They have slipped a little but not as bad as that way over priced Chocom made Millwakee
@@thekingsilverado8419 The high outputs don’t really use different chargers though. They will charge faster on a rapid charger, but they are still compatible with the old chargers.
It should be mentioned for people with older tools that the belt clips do not allow for a high output battery pack and you will have to remove the belt clip in order to use the high output pack however call 1-800 sawdust and they will send you the new belt clip for free that will allow for the high output packs
Cool man. Thanks.
Or just bend them a bit
You can bend them and make it work.
Just bend them with your purse
@@galvanizedgnome 😂😂
For the common household or small business this totally makes sense. For us not so much. Milwaukee batteries have a 3 year warranty and tools have a 5 year. They break and I get a replacement way before that 3 or 5 years are up. Not because they are cheap but because they get used all day everyday constantly being used. I’ve been with Milwaukee for years and wouldn’t go any other direction.
My company is finally starting to get off the ground. I've been watching your videos for years. I appreciate your advice. Thank you.
Good stuff and a Godsend! The battery jungle has become brutal since last I picked up a saw (about 15 years ago) and this one single video answered every question I had. Now it's time for some FUEL!
This is the best millwaukee video ever. I was just thinking of asking what batteries would you give to your workers for all day use but light enough to carry around?
This is old school VCG beast mode this why I became a member.
The XC came with my impact and thought it was a kick-ass battery for the runtime. But HO honestly sounds like a great upgrade. Thank you for the video
This guy says a lot I mean a lot of words to say something you can just say "get a higher amp/hr battery for longer usage."
Thanks for this video looking to step in to the Milwaukee family of tools.
Agreed on the 3.0 ho and I love the $99 special but the deal only comes around once a year in my area and they sell out fast. Typically they cost 169 for the 2 pack . I just picked up a fairly good deal yesterday 2x 5.0 xc., a charger and a jigsaw for $200. I thought it was a decent price so I went with it . I needed the extra batteries since my vac and portable fan were tool only purchases. I totally get your point, imo sometimes a good deal makes something seem like a good idea especially since my power tools are all just for personal home use. Company issues us all battery powered Hilti tools🤷🏻♂️ . I don’t feel like they’re more powerful, they are super heavy duty in terms of say dropping a drill or impact off a 10’ ladder or drilling stone that requires coolant that splatters sludge all over the tool day in day out . Milwaukee still my fav though 👍🏻
i dont even need new batteries but after watching this mans charisma, Im heading to home depot now.
Corporate Purchasing Agent here, I buy/sell Milwaukee on behalf of a major construction supply distributor. Your information is 100% accurate and factual. From one expert to another; well done Sir.
Just came across your channel. Content was very informative. I recently got an M18 1/2 impact wrench model 2663-20 it came without a battery. I was wondering what would be the best battery choice. And by the way I just liked, subscribed and smashed that bell 🔔 notifications. Keep up the awesome content! ✌
I purchased a 3.0 High output and 2 6.0 high output use them whole days worth of work 8 hours on a constant use and still have battery left by the end of the day. All day running strong.
Thanks man I really wanted to know the differences your the best love your vids 😌
GREAT INFO!! I don't care if the speaker is an absolute MANIAC!! LOL! I am a 'Milwaukee Newby' and I learned a heck of a LOT from his INVALUABLE information!
It doesn't matter what size battery you use in your tool as long as you realize your trading runtime for weight that's all. For example the 9AH has 15-3AH 18650's inside it. The 12AH has 15-4AH 21700's. None of the batteries are obsolete. Basically there are the CP models which are compact in size. The HD models are just double and triple stacked cells inside to give you longer runtime however, they are going to make your overall tool heavier. Putting a larger amp hour battery on your tool will make the tool perform slightly better. The voltage sag or drop will not be as substantial on the higher amp hour batteries as it will on the compact series or smaller amp hour so for example the suction on a vacuum will remain more constant with a larger capacity battery than with a smaller one.
When the gasket equipped Milwaukee safety glasses are on, I know Vince means business.
Thats FUEL Vince at work there🤣
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here's the deal…
Which battery would you recommend for a Milwaukee M18 8" Hatchet Saw that will be running sparingly under an hour? Or M12. I have not decided which saw to purchase yet.
got my sub today. I have been in the tile industry for 20 years this year, and don't use hand power tools as much as some trades; but have recently upgraded to this set of drill and driver, as well as their angle grinder with new grinder mounting diamond hole saws. You are 1000 percent correct about these batteries. My grinder would barely get through a handful of hole punches through 1/2 inch thick porcelain before getting really warm and running low on power. Dropped a 3.0 6 amp on it and the thing will go all day long and be same power output all the way to the bottom of the charge. Huge difference. Way cooler too, the handle was getting warm enough where i had to take breaks between cuts, now I can just go at it. The gen 3 drills and impacts are really really solid work horses and I never regret buying them.
I totally agree with your explanation! Well said!! Not too long ago I did exactly this and paired up my lights/vacuums with non-high output batteries. Batteries only last so many charging cycles. Definitely wanted to make the most of my investment. Great video, I’m sure this has helped a lot of people. Well done! 👍🏻
Awesome ZZ, we appreciate the feedback!
It definitely helped me.
Vince, thank you so much for this channel. I always knew good tools made a difference, but what I thought were good were nothing compared to the tools you've recommended in your videos. Over the past few months, I've bought Milwaukee M18 versions of the power tools I use regularly and a good tool belt. I don't know how I ever functioned without any of them before. I enjoy doing projects again and can actually finish them much faster and with better results. Keep up the good work. You have a fan for life.
Thanks Cuz, we appreciate it! 👍🏻
Well said...took the words right out of my mouth! I have taken the same road as you, much more knowledgeable & happier since i started watching this channel..
I reckon these new batteries are a little better than the NiCad ones we used back in the 60’s. A little bit anyhow.
what battery should I be using on my m18 fuel brushless drill for drilling holes on the ice with an ice drill auger attachment?
Insightful way to explain all the batteries. Definitely something to keep in mind when purchasing new batteries from now on. Cheers!
The 6.0 actually puts out more power in impacts than any other battery
Yeah you saw that video where those nerds basically put all the batteries on a dyno and the 6 was the most powerful? Lmao
I did and it seems like its good information. It may not be the end all be all but it give you something in front of you to look at
Great vid Vince. Everyone should do their homework on any platform. Especially Dewalt. They can be a bit confusing. On my Milwaukees, I use the 5.0s that came with kits on lights, radio and oscillating saw. The rest I use H.O. 3s and 8s. The only reason I don't use 12s yet is the charge time and the expense of the Super charger. The best battery deal was the H.O 3 and 8 amp pack for around $165. Now they have a 3 and 6 amp deal for $150 which is ok, but 8s are a better option. Especially for any high torque tool. I've seen the 3s and 8s at a few places for $199 which IMO is worth it. Trips back and forth to the charger suck. Not mentioning battery life. Milwaukee needs to step up to the plate and offer some dual bay super charger, two pack battery deals with 8s and 12s. Give us heavy haulers something to work with. 👷
Northern tool has a deal where there are 2 6.0 h.o. with the option of a tool. For $200
I got 3 5.5ah and 1 12ah battery for the M18 version.
Got the 12ah , because i also have the chainsaw and the Quick-Lok.
The 5.5's came from a kit.
Planning to get a 3.0 m18 , cuz the size is small and would be nice for around the house work.
Don't really need more M18 batteries , since i am going more into the m12 lineup.
DeWalt made it even worse with their ‘Atomic’ line now too.
Rather than Milwaukee having their standard line, and Fuel line. Of course they jumped up to a brushless line, but that’s just a normal evolution of tools.
I'm in the market, and wow this video wraps up all my questions. Thanks bud!
Thank you so much for your informative videos! I just bought the M18 Fuel Gen 3 Hammer drill/driver + Impact combo kit with 2 XC5.0 batteries and was wondering what extra battery options I should think about getting in the future.
Same!
18650 batteries will recharge more times before they internally fail, they have a lower discharge amperage but will last many more cycles...they last so long they outlive the case. There are only a handful of tools that might benefit from the higher discharge amperage batteries but those batteries are heavier and discharge faster and take longer to charge.
I’ve had one 18650 failure in eight years. I have about half a dozen 21700 packs in my garage that are junk after maybe 40 cycles. I’m starting to get pissed off.
Great video as always. Love the high energy from you and the HO batteries 🔋lol
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What battery should I be using for a 1/2 high torque impact wrench? I do mobile tire service so I use it a lot throughout the day.
Great Video what do you think about the XC 3.0 which is a special buy? would it be better to get a HO CP 8.0 instead since its on sale as well, Just to run like a hammer drill or a impact driver, circular saw and a sawzall
I've never used a Milwaukee M18 battery in my life but this man convinced me I've used them all wrong!
The general rule is - Use the biggest battery you reasonably can on any given tool. Not necessarily capacity. More cells = good. Bigger cells = good. Higher capacity = not always good. Its a trade off between capacity and current capability. The 3Ah 21700 cells have a higher current rating than the 4Ah, so the HO6 will perform better than the HO8, but the HO12 will perform better again, but has 50% more cells and therefore extra weight.
What battery should be used in the 2786-80 concrete saw? Ive had lots of problems with over heating the battery?
curious what you'd use to run the yard equipment like a string trimmer or hedge trimmer? Thanks
Milwaukee needs to make a belt battery pack adapter with a coiled cord and adapter to tool. Battery on belt would make all tools much lighter.
Makita done it.
& then you're back to a corded tool????
@@jamesrussell6870 Yes, a corded, lighter tool you can use anywhere. Would be nice for chainsaw, hedge trimmer, etc.
@@eieio6641 So when you have a half dozen or more tools in use at jobsite you have to plug & unplug tool each time?
I’d rather have a little extra weight than a tether like that, weight don’t bother me lol
love the videos Vince. i’m 2nd year contractor’s apprentice and your videos help me study up and save my money. keep the energy up brother
ALL my Milwaukee stuff works AWESOME for what I do. Just Home Stuff. I get depressed & my anxiety max's out every time I watch this channel now
Thanks for all the detail sir! It's great to understand the why instead of just the what.
Passion & Clear cut information Vince. Appreciate everything you do cuz. 🙇🏾♂️☝🏾🖤's🤙🏾🔔🔔🔔
Thanks Antonio, we appreciate it! 👍🏻
New tool user here - My Milwaukee M18 oscillating tool, not Fuel, came with 2.0 and 5.0 batteries with charger. The kit was a "special buy" through Home Depot for $199 - regularly $359. Now I know why the price was reduced. But I'm a 65 year old female with small hands that have some damage so I like the lighter weight of the batteries. Sometimes you need to go with what works for your budget and body, but I appreciate this video and will keep the 3.0 and 6.0 in mind for the future - thanks!
Sounds like you got a really good deal as Milwaukee is a top of the line tool company. What this man is talking about is buying separate batteries in the future, the ones that came in your kit are just fine. Also you may or may not be aware of the M12 line that is considerably more compact and light weight than the M18 without sacrificing a substantial amount of power. Since you are already invested in the M18 line though, it may not make too much financial sense to move into a separate line.
the M12 line (as Marian Chronicles mentioned), is more compact and is really a good line of batteries. 199 is not bad for that combo of products. the 2.0 & 5.0 with charger is normally $249.00 just buy itself (09/04/2023). But that's the M12 line. Much less the oscillating tool you got with the deal. I would consider going to the M12 Fuel line however.
Honey, you are doing just fine!! You are buying then BEST OF THE BEST tools and got a great deal. Don’t worry about the batteries being mentioned here. This is more for the PROFESSIONALS who need to consider what he is talking about. The tool you bought and the batteries that came with it will last you a LIFETIME. You got a great deal!!
Great content. Vince is there a way to tell by looking at the battery packs if they they have the new cells / technology vs the old?
If I didn't watch your video, I would have never known there are differences between similar batteries in the M18 line, thank you!
After watching this, my ears are bleeding but I definitely understand the differences in the M18 battery variants. This was a better use of my 10 minutes than most RUclips videos I watch!
Great video. It has taken me a while to piece this all together. Didn't know about the HD 9.0 NOT being one of the "High Output" ones. Milwaukee could stand to clean this up a bit in the future.
Slayer 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
The 9.0 still works fine and lasts a hell of a long time on basically all fuel tools.
@@mysterycomment1553 how long does it last compared to the 8.0?
I’ll give you 1 good reason to run 5.0s, they came with my kit and they’re getting the job done for now. Gotta save for a while.
Exactly. Why fix what's not broken
He did state this in the video as well. it was for the guys/gals buying replacements but rebuying obsolete batteries for more money.
so trying to decide, for someone that cuts lots of 2 7/8" tubing and occasionally 1" square tubing, is it better to get the compact or the deep cut band saw?
Getting ready for doing road calls with cordless for truck drive lines and remote areas, this is a big help as have been in shop, and close to air thanks for the info, sposeba!
Completely agree. Over the past 2 years I swapped over to the HO, went with multiples of the CP 3.0 the XC 6.0 and the HD 12.0 been a great switch. All I use my XC 5.0 and HD 9.0 are mainly for lighting, vacuum, a few non fuel tools and the top off charger. Good info for everyone to know, complete truth. If you keep your eyes peeled and have patience there’s great deals that pop on the HO 3.0 and 6.0 packs.
You might want to reconsider that top-off usage. My phone went from "Fast charging" to "Super fast charging" by switching from my 9.0 to my 8.0. the charging times changed from estimated 129 minutes to 107 minutes.
@@sergemarlon that’s a nice improvement in charge time. I’m gonna give that go next time.
How much is a good deal?
@@ethanduke813 for the HO 3.0 $99-119 for two packs. Hadn’t seen many 2 packs of HO lately, but $199-229. Used to be a combo with a 3.0 and 6.0 I got couple years ago for $169 but probably higher now, if they still do them. Hadn’t seen those in a while.
@@m.a.4084 i see the high output 3 and 8 for 200
It would be very cool if you could compare the M18 5.5 high output with the 6.0 high output. Sometimes 5.5 comes at a significantly lower price and I am interested what's the actual difference between the two.
What's the best battery for the M18 Fuel portable air compressor?? Thanks!
This video was a life saver. I need new batteries for my tools and was considering just upgrading to something new & replacing everything. I’m probably better off just buying the cp 3.0 batteries cuz I only use them a few times a year.
This is frickin' awesome! Thank you so much. You're videos were one of the reasons I went with Milwaukee FUEL tools to replace my worn out, 18-year-old DeWalt, and I don't regret it in the least. I'm gonna go buy a pair of CP3.0 batteries right now.
As a follow-up to this video, it would be great if you could do a breakdown of some of the most common generic batteries for Milwaukee tools that are all over eBay. Figure out which ones are a complete ripoff and which are at least fairly decent.
P.S.: It would be great if you had links in the description just for the new batteries that you're recommending.
Am going to continue using my 5.0 batteries in my impact driver n drill they work good and haven't had any problems whatsoever I do have HO batteries 3 6 8 12 😁
Hi,
He did not say there was a problem with the battery assigned to the tool. He IS dropping knowledge which delivers more drove time and productivity.
When you KNOW better you Do better❣
The choice is yours at the end of the day.. He's Just distributing options/ knowledge. It was out of passion this video was made. DON'T take it personally.
Please, have a BLESSED day🤗
Drive time . Try to enlighten everyone on how to "Get more BANG for your Buck:
@@karenriley8529 I totally understand and I know there's no problem like I said 5.0 for the impact driver and drill 😉 The 5.0 has plenty of power for those little tools the rest like a grinder or an impact wrench or sawzall use the HO batteries for more run time and power but
I didn’t think I was go through this entire video but for some reason, I’m glad I did
I am happy that I came across this video. I was gifted a Milwaukee impact and drill. There was only one battery and no charger. I was going to buy 5.0 batteries. Since that is the battery that was with them. Now I will be getting HO 3.0 batteries. Thanks for the information.
"How come you gotta SCREAM every time you come into the room?" "Cuz I'm the Juggernaut, you see how tight my outfit is, I have to, thats the only way I can breathe"
He’s the poor man’s Scotty Kilmer
@@darylcheshire1618 was thinking more like Billy Mays
This is a dodge
the short ones are always loud. Just like the jacked up trucks, short drivers.
The high output batteries work great in Drills, Grinders and direct drive tools and they will stall less under hard work, however in a clutch driven tool like impact systems their isn't as much gain as power output is limited by the clutch slipping and hammering action and more motor power won't really help you. I prefer the 3, 6 and 9 variety as they will outperform the 4, 8 and 12 for current draw as some others have mentioned. It will take a lot more to overheat and damage these 21700 based batteries than the older 18650's.
The 21700 cells arent newer than the 18650 cells, they're just identical but a different size.
Each cell is bigger so it has higher Voltage and amp output etc
You can get the same effect by using more 18650 batteries, but because of the size the whole battery would be too big.
So in regards to 21700 being more reliable or handling more than 18650, this is wrong, it's just that the 21700 habe a big overhead with a battery the similar size
great point about the clutch
@@user-tw8dl2jh2x boy is this a bad read, higher voltage lol.
@@LzysGraphics huh?
@@user-tw8dl2jh2x lithium-ion batteries are all 3.7 volts, ranging from around 3.1 - 4.2 on a full cell. 21700 and 18650s don’t have different voltages, nor do they have different discharges or output simply because they are a different size. The size difference allows for a larger capacity which you didn’t mention.
Omg thank you for the info I just picked up a mid torque impact wrench tool only then picked up the HO 6.0 battery
As a former journeyman carpenter I've been a Mauwakee fan for years. I built my metal home and a wood framed/metal skinned building with Milwaukee M18v tools (drill, rotary concrete drill, 1/4 impact driver) and older NiCad saws (metal, wood, reciprocating saws) with M18 adapter. Yesterday my M18 3/8 impact arrived. All four batteries I've constantly used were 5.0XC. I have been truly impressed by the durability of the M18 tools and batteries. I will typically default to a worm gear or table saw if it involves extensive ripping of dimensional lumber. I give a definite thumbs up to how Milwaukee M18s have performed.
So for starters, me having literally every battery they have, a lot of this information is incorrect. When your running a bigger or smaller battery in a tool that requires more battery power, or battery life I like to say, it does not make any difference at all! If I use the tiny little XC, versus the 9.0 (which is also NOT out dated as stated in the video) in like my circular saw or my impact, I do not loose any power nor do I gain any power. The only difference is that the XC will end up dieing sooner. He says in the video they don't make any difference on lights, that's because they don't make a power difference period! They are all 18 volts so they aren't going to produce any more power, but the bigger ones last longer. Want to save your arm, get a XC, want to do the whole job with out changing the battery ever few minutes, get a 12.0 battery. That's all that needed to be said in this video and not the other bull s***!
Not exactly. Battery available power differs from battery life. Different cell types can deliver more energy even at the same capacity. Not talking about voltage. If a tools motor caused a big enough drain, a battery that can deliver more energy can help the tool perform better. Definitely can make a difference.
The magic of amp draw
The information you offer....is appreciated. Your delivery.....makes me feel like I need to defend myself. From a marketing point of view....not friendly. I feel like I'm being attacked....Im out.
Hey Vince great video, question I just bought Milwaukee Radius site light what size of battery I should buy M18 xc6.0, what's your thoughts
What battery’s do you guys recommend for the (M18 Carry on generator) ?
I got the two 6AH HO kit with a charger and a free 2962P-20 torque monster at HD Canada last week, what a monster gun.
I just picked one up 2 weeks ago with the rubber boot and 2 high output batteries for $350 shipped, cant beat that, thing is a beast
For the highest demand tools, the 6.0 can outrun the 8.0 - the 8.0 cells only have a longer runtime at lower current draws due to the compromise made for a higher capacity cell of the same physical size.
Wow. Great insight.
Thanks!
Yeah I didn't know that thanks. What about the 12 ah is it the same way.
Ya know I actually looked into this because typically it's either high discharge or high capacity. 21700 3 and 4 ah batteries both claim 35amp cells which means the higher capacity of the 4ah cells doesn't result in lower discharge rate. (As comparison 18650 2ah are 30amp while 2.5ah are only 20 amp) however during testing by multiple sources the 6 outperforms the 8. Meaning that altho the factory specs are identical in discharge ability, in real life, they are not.
As far as the 8 and 12 being interchangable as far as power..... At least according to the numbers that shouldn't be a thing. The 8 is only a 70 amp battery while the 12 is a 105 amp so for massive draw tools like their supersawzall that claims wall power off of 18v (actually 21 since we typically test tools with full batteries) means the tool has to draw 85+ amps at 21v to make the same power as 15 amps on 120. Drop that to 18v and it's 100 amps. Now efficiency certainly plays a part but power is power and numbers are numbers. The 12 has way more available power because it's 15 cells instead of 10 with the same voltage so it has half again the available amps.
@@ucitymetalhead the 12’s have the same cells as the 8’s, but because there are 50% more cells, each cell sees 50% less current for a given load. This means that heavier loads on a 12.0 pack will be easier on the cells vs. with an 8.0, and the 12.0 cells will be able to stick closer to their rated capacity.
If you have a crazy high draw tool and want to use a 10 cell pack, you may be better off with the 6.0 than with the 8.0.
This same thing apples to the M12 4.0XC vs. 6.0XC.
@@malventano thanks for the explanation i didn't know rhat especially about the m12 batteries
Thanks Vince The best explanation I ever saw. Thank you very much
Will the cp 3.0 h.o. battery work better with my non fuel impact and drill than the cp 2.0? I know it will be better but will my drill run stronger etc or just a bit longer?
I'm new to the Milwaukee line. I had to get their framing nailer. This was a good video.
How are you liking that framing nailer?
@@henrywhiteeffect7031 I love it. It's my first framing nailer I've owned and immediately put the extended magazine. I've tried the DeWalt battery, don't like it. I've used the famous Hitachi pneumatic nailer, it's nice and light. But hey it's the 21st century and I don't want to ever own a compressor.
Absolutely love the 6.0 batteries, much better piece of equipment than the 5.0s. I ran a 5.0 on my router and it drained quickly, switched to a 6.0 and it last much longer as well as performed much better.
So replace the xc 4.0 on my 1/2 impact ? I can't even get lug nuts off cars .
@@daniellugaro445 Yea
@@daniellugaro445 what impact gun you using ?
@@daniellugaro445 I just purchased milawaukee m18 onefhiwf12-0 impact gun it has 1989nm of breakaway torque and using a 5.0ah without a struggle on setting 3 on the gun alone and still have no 4 to use if needed ?
I call BS
In my case, I’m running the 18V tire inflator and although I understand there is no benefit to run HD12 battery but I’m using this on off-road trips and I want one battery to last as long as possible. I don’t want to carry 4 or 5 batteries. So what is my best choice for longest lasting tire inflator where I have no access to AC to recharge my batteries?
Good to know, brand new M18 buyer here. I just bought the string trimmer without battery and really wanted to know which battery to get. I recently bought the compact brushless set of drill/driver and impact wrench with batteries (CP 2.0) and charger. The string trimmer ate the first battery in 10 minutes and used half of the second one in 5 so, guess I would like the super 12 battery and the shoulder strap.
We do landscaping with them. 8.0 is our favorite. Have run 5s and 12s, but 8 has been the favorite. We keep an extra on hand plus the super charger and no issues for us.
"YOUR buying and using Milwaukee..." Reading this video title caused me physical pain.
12.0 is all I own... I like to curl in my down time.
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Doesn't fit in all tools, lol
@@beni7928 everything but the m12
@@DmacJitsu not the chainsaws or the light stands
@@beni7928 ah I see what your saying now too underpowered for the tool
I'm a new power tool user so sorry if the question is dumb but, can you use a 12.0 battery in lets say the hammer drill? So as long as it's an M18 it will work across all tools for M18?
What’s the best battery pack to run in a 1/2 fuel impact mine came with the 5.0 battery but I would like to get more power out of it
Hey Vince, if you haven't already, I'd love to see you running some tests with the Amazon knock-off batteries. I have a few but I really have sporadic usage of my tools at the best of times. I tested the chargers but they were just the same speed as a regular Milwaukee first generation so nothing much fun there unless you want a cheap 4 bay charger.
They work with vibrators
Amazon knock off batteries stink , they are junk big time I made that mistake once but never again.
Excellant video and wording. I would like to point out that ability to take advantage of 21700 cells vs actually going to use that power. You will definitely notice the difference in a 1/2 impact or any other larger tool, but a drill or impact driver not so much. I would certainly recommend getting the High outputs after you use up your other batteries since the CP 3.0, XC6, 8, and 12 will all perform similarly it's just runtime differences mostly.
I run a gen 3 fuel 1/4 hex impact, 100% you feel the difference between a cp2.0 and a cp3.0 HO battery. I have to drive tapcons with the thing though lol if you're just using the thing as a screwgun it's almost unruly lol
Believe it or not, this video was actually really helpful and informative for the average young adult that knows not much about these tools and batteries. I'm looking at buying a milwaukee 1/2" high torque impact wrench but do not want to get the bundle that comes with the typical XC5.0, but rather buy the battery and charger separately so that i purchase the preferred high output high demand 12.0 Ah battery pack with charger station. It'll be more pricey, but will definitely be worth the money in terms of quality, power, and run time. Thanks for the info for sure
At work we bought a couple of Milwaukee copy batteries (made by Waitley) for research purposes. They were a third of the price and when we opened them up they had the exact same Samsung cells inside. 2 years later and they're going strong
Idk man, I still use a 5.0 in my hammer drill and my sds drill. Great run time and the fuel hammer drill is built for the 5.0
I don’t think this guys much of an idea what he is on about and is just yelling buzz words such as “architecture”….
The 8 H.O. weighs the same as the 6 H.O.
Vince I'm planning to get a M18 high impact wrench 3/4 drive what's the best battery?
What would you recommend to put on a leaf blower, battery life is my main concern
Stop yelling at me. Ok. Yell at me now. I've been doing it all wrong
I’ve been strictly High Output 3.0 and 8.0 for awhile now. The way to go.
@@2ASPARKY ya no kidding, but I just like having the updated 2170 cells, to hold value for resale.
Informative,many thanks, ps did you work in a loud workplace, just asking, you blasted my headphones off
So, basically CP3.0, XC6.0, 8.0 and 12.0 are the best batteries out there with the new architecture of batteries. The rest (2.0, 4.0, 5.0 and 9.0) are obsolete and meant to just be runned out with non fuel tools, lights, vaccums, etc and older Fuel tools right?
Looking forward to purchase a brand new hammerdrill and impact key m18 fuel combo to replace my old standard brushless tools.
Any thoughts on a 1/2" square impact? I want it for mechanic work on cars and as part of a vehicle kit to be able to change a tire in the middle of nowhere fast. Not sure if the compact will do or if I should step up for a mid torque.