Does It REALLY Matter? Milwaukee Battery Chargers - Which do you need?
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- We all know that Milwaukee has a huge array of M18 and M12 tools, but Big Red also has a plethora of chargers as well. Which Milwaukee Battery Charger do you need? Hopefully, we will help you decide which charger is best for you. Whether it's the Rapid Charger, Dual Bay Rapid Charger, 6-port Rapid Charger, Super Charger, or even the new Dual Bay Super Charger, we break down the numbers so you can make an educated decision. #milwaukeetool #nothingbutheavyduty #review
Milwaukee 48-59-1809 M18 PACKOUT Six Bay Rapid Charger $249: acmetools.pxf.io/XYEXXb
Milwaukee 48-59-1812 M12/M18 Battery Charger $79: acmetools.pxf.io/NkE66b
Milwaukee 48-59-1808 M12/M18 Rapid Charger $99: acmetools.pxf.io/217WWa
Milwaukee 48-59-1802 M18 Dual Port Rapid Charger $129: acmetools.pxf.io/0ZzdxE
Milwaukee 48-59-1811 M12/M18 Super Charger $149: acmetools.pxf.io/g15WA2
Milwaukee 48-59-1815 M18 Dual Port Super Charger $249: acmetools.pxf.io/6ezggb
Milwaukee 48-59-1807 M12/M18 6-port Rapid Charger $229: acmetools.pxf.io/XYEXLb
Milwaukee 48-59-1806 M18 6-port Sequential Charger $129: acmetools.pxf.io/q4o22N 
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Very impressive video. All killer, no filler. Thanks for making it easy for many of us to understand. I especially like the math portion.
So for anyone who missed it or wants the shorter version. Standard charger 3amp charge rate. Rapid charger 6amp. Original super charger 13.5 amp and new super charger dual port is 18 amp.
Now THAT’s a summary ! 👍
That's all I really wanted to know 😂 I appreciate you
My preference is to use a trickle charger on my automotive battery and for the same reason my preference is to use the standard charger on my battery powered tools.
My .02
Btw, …. Thank you for a great channel and the information that you put out. 👊🏻
Great content
Super informative.
Thanks for all the great videos. I'm a big fan of shop tool reviews. Thanks for all your hard work In making these. God bless
I just reasenty bought the new m18 1\2 router amazing tool. I got a second 6ah battery right away because it runs down fast. I bought the forge today. I've been waiting for your video on the new charger. Im thinking of getting a dual charger this will make it easier to pick one
I have the standard charger. 2 6a batts and one 5 a. I am going to grab at least 2 more milwaukee tools and one of those tools will have the 12v batt. I am fine with the standard with what I use them for. But great video anyways. I was a bit confused on the different chargers. Glad you made this video to clarify.
Thank you for this video. I did not know that there was a difference in their charger. Except the new forge battery platform.
So my thing is does Milwaukee make these super chargers to help the consumer or themselves. The reason I say this is because the faster you charge a battery and the hotter it gets basically affects the life of the battery compared to the chargers that charge batteries slower. So by doing this batterries could possibly have a decreased life which would cause a consumer to have to buy batteries more often.
That’s why I charge with the standard charger.
The charge rate it can tolerate is based on the cell configuration, amount of cells, and chemistry. The high output batteries are capable of higher current flow in and out, and are meant to handle the higher currents. Older standard output batteries will only charge at their max charge speed no matter how much current the charger is capable of supplying. a standard output 6.0 will charge at fastest, 70 minutes on a rapid or super charger. The high output will charge at 65 and 35 minutes respectively despite the capacity being the same. Its due to the chemistry differences and what the batteries are meant to handle.
As for longevity, charging Lithium ion batteries fully is the worst thing you can do to them for longevity. Ideally you'd want to keep them below 80%, but without that option being baked into the battery architecture, threre's nothing you can do about that. Charging from 80 to 100 is already slowed down anyways and the peak current drops like a brick
Part of the reason why they charge faster is because they have a cooling system that keeps the temperature down. it’s not like it’s just pushing more volts into the battery. the rapid chargers and superchargers on any platform do push more volts, but that’s mitigated by the cooling system in the superchargers case. if you were to put your battery on a regular charger in a controlled temperature and put a fan directly on it you would see faster charge times. With a regular rapid charger, you are risking reducing the amount of charge cycles. But most of us know that and for someone like me that is constantly cycling batteries at work the benefits outweigh the potential negatives. So I would say yes, they are making them for the consumers that use their products professionally.
I have the new 2 bay super charger I charged up a 6 and a 12 after draining them down they stayed in the 70s Temp the whole time never hit 80. Because the fans on that charger are legit. But yes heat will hurt your batterys. Also the fans stay on for a while after they are fully charged to keep them cool after charging.
That's not how battery works. If you don't know, shut it
Thanks for sharing!! Much needed info
I just use the standard charger, I have so many battery's and I have no reason to charge anything fast if it's gonna sit on the charger all night anyway
That's perfectly legit. You nailed it. Keep a backup battery and let the other charge. No need to spend extra money. Thanks for watching.
Excellent breakdown! Helped me make the decisions I was trying to make. Much appreciated!
I intentionally bought an older generation Milwaukee slow-chargwr. It charges both m18 and m12, and i use both. I have a fast charger, but I never use it. I am a diy guy who uses Milwaukee tools to fix stuff on my house and car. I used some of my Milwaukee tools when I built a deck on my house last year.
When you charge batteries with a high current, you generate more heat, and it tends to decrease the life of the batteries. I just have a few batteries. When i am using a tool and a battery is low, i put it on my slow charger and use a fresh one. Generally i am not using one single tool for such a long stretch that i need to go through all my batteries in a day. Even my 6ah batteries charge in a few hours, and then i put them away and charge the next one over night. It works fine.
I also use makita 18v tools. I prefer some Milwaukee tools and other makita tools. So when i was building my deck, I would use my makita circular saw and a Milwaukee impact. That means that I didn’t go through my Milwaukee batteries all at once. So i am generally charging both Milwaukee and makita spare batteries when i am doing a big project.
I charged a 12ah on the dual port super charger in 45min , 2 12ah in 1h15 , 1 forge in 20 min , i love the new supercharged its very quick
Thank a million for such informative video, now finally I understand the difference between the milwaukee chargers. Nobody thinks about clarifying our mind, thanks again my friend and God bless you and your love ones.
As a religious person you probably don’t ask enough questions, that may be why your mind isn’t clarified. 😉
@@MyTubeSVp is the other way around, the people that ask many questions are the ones that end up confused. The wise people don't ask many questions.
@@MyTubeSVp The more questions you ask, the more confused you end up.
Another informative video! 👏
Never have been a fan of red tools but I sure can appreciate the math brakedown. Good job Tim. 👍
Thank you for the information.
Thank you very much for the useful information bud
I'm a Milwaukee guy and found this informative. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
For the dual port rapid charger which is 6amp, when two batteries into the slot to charge, is it divide into two 3amp for each slot?
I bought three dual rapid chargers M18/M12 from eBay for $30 each. They arrived looking brand new since it's listed as an open box. I compare it to another brand new one from Home Depot, it matches everything even the weight of the charger. So I'm confident that it's legit. I say having three chargers is good enough for home DIY and small professional jobs.
I want to get a Super Charger, but I learned that supercharging batteries will wear it down quickly. I don't need that unless I'm using a chainsaw and cutting trees daily and I want to have the next battery ready right away. Or just buy many batteries and have enough to last you a day.
What kind of rack do you use for hanging your tools, referring to that black mat hanging on the wall. plus where did you get the rack for hanging your milwaukee m12 drills
For the dual bay rapid charger of 6A, is it divide by 2 of 3A each slot when two batteries are charge at the same time?
Sweet, glad to watch your videos
Glad you like them!
They should make a balancing cell charger ! It’s all well and good making batteries charge faster . But if you don’t have a Balanced battery what’s the point .
Do the Rapid Chargers put extra stress/wear on the Batteries ?
Have the regular 18v charger which charges fine,but would not fully charge 8AH battery.I would need to remove and put back on to finish charging.I bought the rapid charger which charges fully but it is so loud with that transformer whine(?)I have to put it outside to use it.For the money iI spent on it just for 1 battery type makes me not very happy.
I have rapid charge and super charge for home use only, the rapid charge gets the job done I barely use my super charge
I have ryobi and use their regular chargers, the fast ones have no benefits and just wear the batteries out faster
I like useing the slowest charger available because i belive if it gets charged slow it will discharge slow plus i think i will get more charge cycles, idk
Do you have a dc 12v charger
I have 3 rapid chargers for at home use. Only use 1, the other 2 are never plugged in. After 2 years, it started smoking and smelled funny when I was using it last week. I switched to a normal m18/m12 charger
i have a auto repair shop have couple extra batteries and the charger that came with the kit i never run out of batteries the dead one always charges before my extra runs out. i don't think charging batteries real fast is a good idea don't really know
The new supercharger charges my high output 8.0ah and 6.0ah older style batteries faster than any other Milwaukee charger i own..and of course it charges the forge fast af...
@18:40 diy needs more than one battery at a time. Saw, drill, mulitool, grinder, vac, blower......... ain't nobody got time to change or change.
I’ll only use the regular chargers.
i wouldved liked to see the car charger too
Milwaukee product listings show charts saying these charters will charge batteries faster:
Rapid charger: All batteries including M12
Super charger 6.0 HO and larger.
New dual charger Super charger is not any faster, but shows 80% charged on chart.
It charges to 80% and 15 minutes are you saying that that’s untrue? because it’s not I have one and it charges the forge battery to 80% in 15 minutes.
Something is off with that last set of specs. 4 amps in seams super low for that output.
Bosch power boost charger via bluetooth can be set to charge with power boost,max.lifetime (charge battery up to 80%) or conservation mode for storing battery.
@Shoptoolreviews. I am a big fan frequent user mechanic and farm owner of Milwaukee M18 and now M12 Fuel tools. Can you please answer me what the M in M18 and M12 mean? What does it stand for? Ans what happened to their older M28V and other battery platforms they use to have back in the day? I watch the channel and subscribe so I hope you have the answer.
😂 Milwaukee 12v Milwaukee 18v (m12) (m18) 😅
M28 is discontinued along with the old NiCad platforms
Love your channel! I'm thinking of doing one for tools, but in Spanish
There has to be something very wrong with their ratings, otherwise it implies these chargers run at anywhere from 20 to 50% efficency which is horrendous. Ryobi's chargers are more like 80-90% efficient, which is weird because they're both TTI brands. That kind of efficiency loss can add up quick if you're using these every day. Just think of using these in the 175w inverter, and you're using all 175w. It takes 350-875w to charge the battery. You've increased your power usage by 2-5x. I truly hope these are some weird math error and these units draw a fraction of their rated power from the wall.
Maybe make a follow up video testing the regular, rapid and super charger in how efficiently they charge a battery, and what kind of losses you see using each one. The rest are just variations and multi-port configs of the same chargers so not worth testing
I need Makita
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I've heard rapid chargers may reduce the overall lifespan of the battery. Has anyone else had that concern?
Heat is the reason any electronic fails overtime. Faster charging has higher temperature than normal charging so rapid chargers do reduce the lifespan of the batteries compared to normal chargers. Rapid chargers for the job site when needed. Normal chargers at home to charge everything overnight is recommended.
Flex tools have the best chargers
Too bad flex tools are trash
Cant stand the fact that the super charger does not have a handle for christ sakes. Who wants to carry a charger with both hands!?!?!?!??!?!?!?! I mean seriously does noone walk into facility and think hey maybe we should put a handle on this........
Shocked there's no m12 ultra basic charger, I have one and I own zero Milwaukee tools.😬
Best charger on the market is the Flex 4 port simultaneous charger.