Dyno Graphs of Every Milwaukee FUEL Impact: How Much DO You Need?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Subby: amzn.to/3AgKyZd
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High Torque: amzn.to/44pm1xK
What do you use to make these graphs? Very cool!
Was this tightening or loosening?
Do you have a video explaining your test setup? I’d like to make one.
@@silverstranded wfht
hawmachi in uga nd
I mainly do oil changes, so 1" D-handle for me.
D handle for the filter, extended d handle for the oil plug
Don't forget a good welder to tack it in place after. Can't risk it coming out ever again. And remember, if it ain't cross-threaded, it ain't tight!
@@SkylineFTW97 Dont forget the strongest locktite either
@@frenchonion4595 That's not enough to stop a leak. Max power with a 1 inch impact gun. And remember, if it ain't cross threaded, it ain't tight.
@SkylineFTW97 Don't forget some Rocksett on the threads. Can't risk some hero with a torch intent on removing the plug in one piece.
How many ft-lbs do you need? "all of them"
Indeed.
Agreed my thoughts exactly
@@PaulRudd1941 bro that gave me a good laugh thank you.
“That’s still not enough!”
How many do you need? Yes!
jesus christ, when you included the curve of 3 different M12 battery sizes I was sold on your channel. You and Todd are GOATS, now to find other similar legends!
Me: Never touched a bolt on a semi outside of replacing the windshield when I was a glass tech
Also me: that 1 inch impact would come in handy 🤔
Works great for removing my Prius oil drain plug
@@maxuabo ...the Tesla drain plug however.
@@pflaffik you do know Prius are hybrids meaning they have gas engines, right?
.... he said Telsa tho?
@@TorqueTestChannel I said Prius
I own all but the 2 high end ones and the pin detent one. I'm not a professional mechanic. This video made me realize I might have a problem.
Guess we checking in to tool rehab together 😅
Lol if you're a man watching these videos than ya maybe a problem or rather a 'hobby' lmao we stick together 😂
Only problem you have is your missing a couple tools!
Milwaukee is such a beast tool company. So glad I am invested into their battery line up, because they never disappoint!
I guess if you like buying tools from a Chinese owned company that spends more on marketing than their tools.
@@dieseldouche7735 what does this exactly mean? if the tools are better for around the same price as competitors idc if they spend a billion dollars more on marketing than their tools.
@@dieseldouche7735 better than come store crap from china or much overpriced snap on tools
@TheNamesJohny just a personal preference I suppose then. The tool should be able to sell itself if it's solid without all of the pushy marketing to make you think they're the best. Makita has next to no marketing but yet they are known for being reliable and lasting a long time.
@@dieseldouche7735 Makita is a Japanese company but they're just as guilty as any other company by moving some of their manufacturing to China. I prefer US, German and Japan made stuff but my china Milwaukee power tools never let me down *knock on wood.
LET'S GO!!!🏁
2:00...👈 this... people tend to get this wrong a lot... just because the upper end of it's torque capability can break a fastener free doesn't mean that's the only one you're going to need..
you need about four times that torque unless you want to sit there for 20 seconds trying to take it off..every time
Design and impacting rate is going to play in the torque curve also...
correct, and once you start adding extensions and swivel adapters too having that extra overhead power helps out a lot
Anecdotal, but I worked at a Quick Lane oil-and-tire place for 6 months with my M12 1/2" stubby impact on the stock 4.0ah battery. We rotated tires on nearly every vehicle that came in, and I needed to borrow a pneumatic gun only 3 times in 6 months. It's removed axle nuts and harmonic balancer bolts without issue as well. Good enough for me!
Same here. I mostly work on smaller cars, but I've also been able to do everything I've needed to (suspension, lug nuts, even an old japanese axle nut) with my m12 1/2" on the same stock battery. I do not work on cars professionally, though. Small form factor is really nice, though.
Same! It only struggles with wheel locks as the wheel lock + socket act as a torque stick.
One very important question is do you know JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR?
axle nuts? Man, I'm sold. I need something compact and can break away brembo caliper bolts (~103lbf-ft) and this might be the ticket. Anything else I should have room for the breaker bar.
@@ldsiverlingI was just working on a ford expedition and couldn’t get the caliper bolts with the stubby. (21mm heads), moved the steering wheel for clearance and m18 mid torque had them off in seconds. I personally love having both.
Professional wrench thrower here. M12 is the design factor by which I have all of my electrics. Anything that requires more than the ~250ftlbs from the stubby was less than 5% of the total fasteners that I dealt with. In which case I had multiple other forms of fastener movement.
If I had to buy an entire setup all over again I would do things the same way. M12. Since every shop has to have air basically no matter what, I never saw a benefit of have the M18 line or any of its competitors over the typical pneumatic tools that I already have.
Anyone else thinking about taking this directly on and buying your own line of battery models, remember two things, the more the tool shakes the more the electronic controls in that tool shake, and sometimes the fastest way to do the job is by breaking the bolt.
Yeah same. I have m18 batteries as well but they are for the angle grinders.
Garage work surely makes anything more than M12 pretty useless.. why buy M18 or something like the 40V by Makita when you can just plug in the air? the Thor is a beast and way cheaper than the bare tool of any battery High Torque..
I do, however, have a battery ratchet (air one just blows dust around and makes a bunch of noise) and an 18V Makita 1/2 high torque cos im not always in the shop. Sometimes, im workin on a car that hasnt seen the road in a couple decades and the closest building is off on the horizon and only has a toilet lol
M18 is great for mobile applications like logging work since if a machine breaks down in the woods you can’t get a air compressor out there.
Thanks for this!
I was window shopping M12 stubby impacts a little while ago.
Seeing what they're capable of is appreciated.
Currently working a shutdown for the first time with the Mid Torque on my truck and I'm thoroughly impressed.
Pleanty of flanges we had to break where the high torques power would have been nice but was to large to fit in some spaces , and the mid torque didn't have a problem removing 1" carbon steel studs
The 2nd gen mid torque makes a great go to most of the time. Thanks guys great work.
i agree. i wanted a set for the longest time with the high output 1/2". found myself grabbing the mid torque 99% of the time over the high output😆
I got bold and decided to take my personal 3/4 inch impact with a XC8.0 to work on the equipment at my shop, and its a huge improvement over our IR air impacts. Especially out on the beach doing dozer ops. It became so noticeable how much quicker I was working and getting jobs done over everyone else that my own chiefs came up to me and told me to write up an order request for any and all Milwaukee tools we should get for the shop lmao. Within 3 hours, they had an order for 20k in just tools alone, another 5k in batteries, chargers, and packout kits
What was on the list of 20k in tools holy?
@@red_wyatt just a bunch of different milwaukee tools that would help out around the shop, mostly 3/4 and 1 inch impacts
Thats awesome.. I watched a youtube video not to long ago from a guy who was a mechanic and a Snap on Tool rep... and he ended up quiting his job as a snap on rep because the power tools in his words " wer 3x as expensive and not even half as powerfull" like he was mad at himself for selling snap on powertools, he felt like he was selling the highest quality product on the market and then he tried somethinmg you can buy at home depot for 200 bucks lol
What about a raise?
So, they bought 5 tools?
idk if I just have a beast, but my m12 1/2" easily takes off lugnuts, brake calipers, suspension parts. All of this is on a 25 year old pickup also.
Honda technician with the 1/2 in high torque here. I've had mine for a couple years and it is a beast. As for those crank bolts, it will work, but we all have weighted sockets for them anyway. They aren't that expensive and I actually bought mine a couple years prior to becoming a Honda tech to help a friend with an emergency replacement of the harmonic balancer on his 2007 Odyssey.
That Honda crank bolt is making me anxious of doing any kind of work on my car... breaker bar+ in gear+on the breaks werent enough. But air impact gun and going at it for a minute, did the job. Except I still had to go to proffesional mechanic...
@@kerstas10 I just did that job with the high torque gun and weighted socket, came off ez. Forget about using breaker bar if you have it on the floor, needs to be raised for that. Just get the gun with socket and diy
Would you say the hi torque gun isn’t necessary for doing work on the Honda? Or is it necessary for suspension work?
@@radiospank It can be if you live somewhere that uses road salt a lot.
This is really useful. Thank you 🙏
After years away from hobby mechanics, I’m diving back in and need a wrench to cope with UK rusted suspension.
A couple of months back, my bargain basement Nissan Qashqai (Rogue) needed wishbones and drop links.
It took 4 days of scrubbing, soaking, heating and swearing to get it done.
I’m being told I need everything from 250NM to 1,200NM. 🤔🤯
This has kinda made my mind up.
About 1,000NM.
We’ll see. 😉
Myth buster for you to test: When I am faced with a fastener at the limit that my well worn IR 2135qtimax from about 2006 (but still kicking), I will load it up with way too much tool oil and give it a shot. Anecdotally, this has worked more times than zero. That might just be due to other factors, but I always do it once I reach that point.
Interesting theory. I could see how an extra shot of oil could seal up worn vanes momentarily or otherwise modify the internal volumes somehow.
I do the same. My theory is it's sorta like when you squirt oil in a cylinder when doing a compression test. It takes up some of the clearance from wear.
Just ordered and received the Dewalt DCF892B 20V MAX XR 1/2-in Mid-Range Impact w/800 ft. lbs torque in a compact wrench. I ordered this wrench based on your test results where it put everything else including all Milwaukee's in the same size category to shame. It is a beast of a wrench in a small lightweight gun and I love it. Thanks for all that you do and share!
My gen 2 mid torque 1/2" anvil is great. I use it on a daily basis with a swivel doing brakes and suspension. It gets majority of the fasteners off. It's rare for me to take out my high torque. The mid torque is very impressive for the size.
I love that you guys also explain which tool is best for what job according to the torque rating. Me being a regular around the house and diy my own car type guy I would’ve brought the 1500 ft pound torque wrench to tighten car lug nuts lls not knowing any better
I had been using 3/8” stubby on xc 4.0 since 2018 on Odyssey 100 ft/lb winter lug nuts which some were seize solid with ease
our 18V Bosch impact with 21700 4Ah cells will not crack it.
This is up in Aurora (North of Toronto Canada)
We now can do it with mode 2 on mid torque
tighten at mode 2 around 100 ft/lb
I use the 1 in D handle gun to tighten up oil drain bolts to make sure its tight and won't leak. I also write with a tire marker on the oil pan, "Good Luck" for the next poor sap that has got to work on it. 😁
Took whole subframe apart with the M18 compact on a rusted chassis, did seized up brake caliper stuff without a sweat. Throw in suspension spring job in the same bucket. Haven't seen a lug it couldn't take off yet. This little monster is more than capable.
My M12 Stubby did well with anything non seized, from engine bay to lugnut, crankshaft bolt and even subframe on Civic 1996 and Jazz 2009. Ive seen its limit with deeply fused rusted stuff. But otherwise i would say 99% of DIY jobs can be done with that M12 Stubby with 4.0Ah
M12 stubby is a mike tison. Amazing punch
@@joecostu1571 More like Donnie yen ipman 1million little punch but still effective
I have the competition makita and I use my 3/8 a lot but I will say my 1/2 still get used a lot. The 3/8 still seems to fall short in some areas but it definitely fits a lot of nice areas and is key in my tool car while the 1/2 sits in the box more.
My 1" Milwaukee hasn't struggled on a tri axle or 18 wheeler lug nut yet and it's taken off hundreds of nuts that were WAY over torqued and rusty as can be. It's not as fast as my 1" air impact but I keep it in the truck for road service and I'm NEVER worried it won't be able to break a lug nut loose. I can attest that there's no reason to worry if it'll get the lug nut loose or not. Another plus side is I'm pretty sure it puts out the same torque with a nearly dead battery as it does with a new one I've had my battery die a couple times and grabbed a new one to double check the nuts and it doesn't visibly torque them anymore than the dying one did.
Nice comparison!! Stubby, mid, and high tq have done everything I needed so far. Only required the high tq once, but was so glad I had it to continue the job. Stubby actually gets the most usage without fear of damaging anything. Finish with the Tq wrench.
Couldn't have said it better brother 😎
The battery graphs are excellent, only have 1 of the m18 batteries in my kit now days. It's filled with m12. Smaller n gets the job done just the same. Beside the little circ saw, I feel it needs more beans
As a diesel tech that works on semis and medium duty box trucks, my go to is my 3/8 stubby m12 and 2767-20 1/2in. My 3/8 has taken an insane amount of abuse and always keeps working plus I’ve ran over my 1/2 in once with a forklift and it’s still kicking. There’s some Milwaukee stuff I’ve bought and have been disappointed with, definitely the m12 die grinder and the non fuel 3/8 ratchet. I have been contemplating getting a good 1/2 air gun and keeping the Milwaukee as an on the road tool/ at home tool since I don’t use it terribly often and when I do I’m doing hubs or rotors which have a about 10-15 bolts per side that take 5-10 secs a piece to remove so I’m down half a battery when putting it back together and just for convenience sake I rather use air
I used the 1/2” high torque at work almost everyday and I use it to remove 1 5/8 lugs ( International school buses ) and I’ve never had a problem with it. But I would like to set up to the 3/4 and this video helped a lot with my decision on if I’m going to get it or not
Just get ingersoll rand a 3k 1” D handle
@@maxuabo I like the IR brand but all I have is Milwaukee right now and I don’t wanna worry about different characters or running out of batteries
Now I want to go build a bridge just to make use of the tool.
bought a m12 drill and impact combo last year and I love it.
I have the long anvil 1”. I also work in a truck stop. Many times the air can’t even move the nuts. And the Milwaukee struggles but it doesn’t quit and there hasn’t been anything it can’t do!
The impact driver, m12 stubby 3/8 and 1/2” mid torque will take care of any DIY homeowners needs, if you’re a pro you will love the 1/2” high torque but already have a good pneumatic.
The M2555-20 the 1/2” is I think still $179 for the impact with a 2ah and 4ah xtra output battery and case, at Home Depot, what a steal, just got mine delivered over the weekend!
Truck shop in SW Michigan. The 3/4 has been my go to for over a year now for big torque jobs. Since I started buying 6.0s, there have been few things it can't do. One of my protégé just bought one for himself for tire changes.
I really enjoy my m12 right angle hex driver for majority of vehicle work. I use it more than my 3/8" stubby impact.
I have the 1/2 drive 2767 and it's more than enough power for the basic diyer at home. Honestly overkill but I'd rather have too much power than to come up short. The high output XC8.0 battery is great too. I also got a Sawzall. I guess tools are my toys now haha.
I'm a fan of Milwaukee tools, my first and only it's the 2767 1/2" HT, I work most of the time on motorcycles, here and there I encounter a nasty stubborn nut, I just apply #2 and voila, above #2 it will be broken...better have that extra oomph, and If I have to travel this baby will save the day.
I have the 2555 m12 1/2in stubby , the 2767 m18 1/2in high torque, and the 2864 m18 3/4 high torque, and use all 3 regularly as a tractor trailer fleet tech, spot on descriptions, the stubby is perfect for general purpose work, the 1/2in m18 for more suspension and brake work, and the 3/4in for lugnuts and drive line
thank you for this! personally, i never met anything my 18v Fuel Surge could drive or loosen but it hasn't seen any suspension/engine work. 1/4 impact have gotten too fast, too loud and too powerful for what people really need them for. i love more power but the last 4-5 Gens are not too useful where luckily the Surge swooped in and saved us all. and QUIET! perfect for interior work especially since newest 12v Bosch drivers got louder for no reason. a m18 Surge and a mid torque and you're good to go for most around the house/car jobs. 12v Bosch's are more refined and work better. the m12 fat grip just kills me and is not comfortable at all. Bosch is Snap-on 7.2v tiny where M12 are oversized and ridiculous and just not useful.
We use the 1in D handle to do track work on the railroad. Its a serious piece of kit.
They are awesome tools. These are for heavy duty use for many years. I'll never even wear out my Stanley tools around home. I hide them when the pros show up and take out my Festool vacuum to show that I'm serious. 😅
Excellent test for Milwaukee cordless power tool users. When a user of these tools invests in the Milwaukee batteries, the user is kinda "stuck" buying Milwaukee tools. But, the tools are so durable, I cannot complain about being "stuck." And this test is GREAT for those "stuck" users, allowing them to pick and choose the correct Milwaukee tool for the job. Very, very nice!
I think your torque chart is like 100ft-lb more than what is needed at most levels at least the low end. My M12 3/8 impact removes almost everything you could want on a passenger car. Lug nuts, suspension, chassis parts, exhaust, crank bolts, any engine accessory bracket, even head bolts and main bearing caps.
For home use the M12 3/8 impact is an amazing tool, gets into everywhere and has power to break most things loss. Check out Deboss Garages video on it.
I think he took into consideration the rust belt. I have the same impact and I live in the rust belt and I can't remove suspension and chassis parts usually. Lug nuts are 50/50 for me.
I agree if you got a small car but a truck/large suv up you need more power.
@@anthonyrivetfetting97 Depends on a lot of factors, but the fact of the matter is that it is way more capable than most people assume. Deboss disassembled a whole 6 cylinder Cummins from the rust belt with mostly the 1/4in M12.
Now add salt and rust. I’d rather have 100ft lbs extra then 100ftlbs short…
@@mully006 but that an engine not suspension. Different bolt sizes, different environment.
I’ve torque turned 18mm head bolts 120 degrees from 300 ftlbs with my 2767. Yes it took it a long time but they were in a tight spot and that 1/2 Milly saved me from using a breaker bar.
My first ever power tool was the huge 26v cordless ratchet from kobalt. I quickly returned it and got m12 stubby impact with high torque ratchet. Only wanted the ratchet but home depot drags you into the deals and now I only use ratchet for brake bolts. Everything else, stubby. I’ve noticed tho, half wheel nuts the stubby isn’t strong enough. Suspension bolts are a long shot tho. All that rust is a different level for m12. There’s no chance. I kinda wanna get 1/2 m18 but I don’t like spending money sooo. If I were to get one i think id get mid torque 1/2 just cuz it’s smaller and 650lbs is probably enough for everything on a car
I use my m18 Milwaukee 1/4" impact from the often on sale for $119 kit to take off my lug nuts several times a year with no issue, yes after being properly torqued.
At my last shop we had that 1" D-handle and it was awesome. Obviously the Air guns were a go to but I dont think i came across any lug nut it couldnt get off and its perfect for working in the yard.
I work on 18 wheelers and i have never seen a lug that last one wouldnt remove, personally. Ive only been a diesel tech for about a year and a half now so well see whats to come.
this should've been the first ttc video i watched. great breakdown of impacts and their use-cases.
Milwaukee 3/8 stubby M12 all day. It's the king impact for my mower maintainance.
I had a 1996 honda accord and tried to take off the spindle nut because you had to remove it to change brake rotors. I used a 1/2 24" breaker bar, no movement. I added a 6 foot piece of square tube and it broke the head of the breaker bar clean off. Warrantied the tool, and used the second one. Broke the 1/2" drive off of it. Needless to say, I was not removing that rotor...
I don't know how helpful I find it, as I am no mechanic... But it is a very beautiful video full of red!!😍
Driving screws into cement bathroom flooring sheeting with a M18FMTIW2F12-0 into 120 year old hardwood, I’ve now got quite serious tennis elbow.
Just picked up my 1/2 impact it probably won't ever leave mode setting 2 unless I need the extra ugga duggas
I can feel the vibrations through your videos
So what you’re saying is Milwaukee is still the single most superior company over CheapWalt.
Hi, I love your channel. As per info how to use of the Milwaukee impact tools, your second hand should be on the battery area and not on the upper side of the tool. Keep up the good work.
I own a 2962 and it was an absolute game changer for me, even with the lesser 5.0 battery
Love Milwaukee. We run there tools in the shop everyday have for years. Great line up of tools and battery's.
My killer combo - m12 hex stubby, m12 3/8” stubby, 1/2” mid torque, and 3/8 m12 ratchet.
We bought the 3/4" impact for pipe flange nuts that took a 2" socket. It would help spin them down faster but wasn't enough to torque. We had to use Norbar torque guns that could do 4000Nm. We hired them though, they're 10k+ to buy
My favourite video so far from you guys thanks so much that graph put a lot into perspective for what I might need just around the house and garage!
Always appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work with these videos.
I own two 18 wheelers and have changed a bunch of tires with a 2864 until I was able to get a 1 inch ext anvil.
My m12 driver with 3 bars took off 90 pound lugs granted it took one wheel about 30 seconds and the other prolly a minute 30 could cook a egg off it when I was done but goddam it she did it and I’m proud of her
We actually use a high torque 1/2” impact to take off any tires on our tractors
Those Honda crank bolts are no joke...i remember i had my 300lb friend and me stand on a breaker bar and we couldn't get the bolt off. i had to increase the leverage by using my jacks extension handle.
Definitely getting that d handle at the end to take out and replace my timing cover bolts. Thanks for the help guys!
I don't always comment on RUclips but when I do... It is on videos that I love.
Also, I love Milwaukee Tools.
After repairing ALL of these. I like to see what they can actually do and capable of.
That's nuts. I broke 18 wheeler lugnuts with a 1" pneumatic and 1/2" hose. Even some didn't break or snapped. A battery tool?!
I think including test using lower amp batteries would be eye opening..
Awesome job and i understand the differences between the products so much better than I did
Will you please do a half inch Cornwell impact against Snap-On and Matco
I have the 1/2" (and 3/8") Kobalt compacts. I know they don't make a lot of beans but I never have an issue with it taking off my lugnuts or most other suspension parts I can get it too. It did not remove my Audi's axle bolt at something like 150 lb/ft + 180°. 🤣
I wish we had had one of those 1" when we were changing a tire on an M916. We broke a 3/4" breaker bar trying to get the lugs nuts off. 3 people jumping on a 5x cheater pipe. I guess 20 years of rust and CARC paint will do that.
Well in all honesty since I work at a diesel repair shop, I'll probably have the 1in, 3/4in, 2 1/2in drives, and a 3/8 in drive all for various jobs.
I've decided the best solution for me is a torque multiplier I have 1/2"-3/4" and 3/4" to 1", once broken free my 1/2" impact does the rest. Multiplier I use a torque wrench on it, plus they will last a lifetime
Never had issues using the m18 surge on bolts.
Well I’m wrong so nvm.
I like the m12 2a battery look. I wish it would make more juice. Also it would be awesome if had a small flat top so it could lay on its head like Thors hammer. Now that would be nice
DUDE! This is exactly what I needed (actually more). THANK YOU thank you!
I live in the rust belt and the 1/2 can get off pretty rusty semi lugs. Idk if too much could stop that 1 inch lol
my pair of impacts serves me perfectly, a 2854(the m18 compact in 3/8) and the 2767. otherwise its an m12 ratchet and mostly hand tools, its tight in the engine bay of a honda crosstour, especially by the timing cover
I am a m12 3/8 stubby and m18 gen 1 mid torque user. I yet to find a job I can’t do with either of this yet. Small stuff gets the m12, big stuff gets the mid torque. That’s including changinging wheels on my tractor only a few weeks ago, it did impact for a whole 2 seconds before starting to shift them but it did it. I had a high torque before but found it too bulky to carry around in my tool bag at work so got the mid torque as a replacement
I just got the gen 2 mid torque because I think that will be plenty for everything I need to do.
I was just researching this and you made it too easy now I know what to get thanks!
I just hope Milwaukee doesn't disappear and keep the quality and performance up there 😅😎
Thanks for your work. I'm watching video after video to determent witch impack I need just to fix on my own car. We use Nm so a impack that break free bolts and nuts around 600ft-Ib is likely enough . The drop in force using a extender or svivel gave me something to think about. Bought a Bosch freak several years ago thinking this might be a good thing, but it cant even losen wheel bolts.
I love these types of videos, so interesting love to see the progression and increase in power. I wonder how the best battery power compare to corded and air/gas. Like what is the top torque gun you can possibly get in a shop.
I just bought a half inch Milwaukee rated at 1400 in reverse
I need all the Milwaukee tools, I do automotive and construction, I’m currently trying to change my construction tools over to Milwaukee because the dewalt batteries are housed in inferior plastic and crumble with very little impact.
Looks like I’m buying the pin detent model. It’s the best deal by far.
Missing the 3/4 impact gun in the intro image. It's an amazing gun and probably the limit in the m18. 1 inch just gets the batteries to hot.
I worked on bridges and the only impacts were IR and Hilti there was a few CP impacts but those were used for lighter jobs.
honestly i have never had an issue with my 12v dewault half inch compact taking off lug nuts, but im also not in the rust belt
We use the last one on the railroad for tightening bolts
I’m a recovering DeWalt user. I have the M12 stubby and both ratchets. I love them. Can I be lovers of both?
Jeez, I use the M12 3/8" stubby to remove all 24 lug nuts on my truck all the time. 4.0Ah battery. 150lbft install torque.
It did fail to take off a 185lbft brake caliper bracket bolt last time. Had to use a breaker bar.