Milwaukee's New High Torque Impact Wrench 2967 vs Everything
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
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Does the new Gen 3 M18 FUEL 2967-20 beat the DeWALT XR DCF900? The DCF961 even? How does it compare to the Gen 2 2767 it's replacing? We have those answers, it's what we do. Sit back, relax and let the beans happen.
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0:00 The New Milwaukee Gen 3
2:08 Size comparison
3:12 Torque
4:15 Testing
9:46 Wrist breaking
10:38 Rankings
13:43 Built to fail?
17:16 Thoughts 
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Wow, guys. +20 subs in 40 minutes? Haha, I'm glad you guys like the new Gen 3. We do too
You deserve a lot more for doing such good tests!
4k views when I hit play. Refreshed after finishing the video, up to 5.7k. Amazing having 1,7k other people watching this while I am.
Do you think those rubber parts may wear down overtime especially the ones down at the battery port? If so I hope they sell replacement rubber components for us to be able to replace them when needed
@@tobyfuller3086 I do not think so, there's not much friction going on.
Really hope u try the forge battery on the gen 2
They say it's suppose to work.
(Watching the disassemble 15:34 so hope it's after this
It's really fun to watch the arms race unfold in the tool world.
The result... even cheap brands are making tools we would have been absolutely amazed by 10 years ago.
Not the first arms race in the tool world, shit the arms race we're having now is technically just a continuation of the one they were having in the early 20th century.
@@bb_gunbandit4782
Power Tool WW1 here we come!
thats what i said in 2021 when whoever at Dewalt decided they didnt want to be middle of the pack anymore and stepped up their game seriously. I am a Milwaukee guy, but I was happy to see how good dewalt was doing over the past couple years. I knew Milwaukee would have to take note and bring in their A-game. Glad it worked. We the consumer, regardless of brand loyalty win when the tool brands decide to go to war. =)
Problem is we pretty much at the limit of a 1/2 socket even the old one pretty much destroy the socket on tight stuff
I firmly believe that your channel is a significant driver of improvements in this field. I've seen the power of honest objective testing before, and of course, certain types of companies do not like it one bit. Maybe in this area, it's not too much of an issue, especially since you don't accept ads.
Project Farm + Torque Test Channel collab when?
Hopefully it does, especially with that recent issue of the grease leaking from the new insider ratchet.
These videos certainly play a major role in my decision making process when buying tools.
TTC definitely does have an effect on the manufacturers since they helped voice the whole H96B issues and with Milwaukee sending them a letter saying they'll fix the issues.
@@jamesbynum3123same, I do not trust any tool manufactures specs, this testing right here is what I use to decide what to buy.
900 ft pounds on a small, single hand impact like that is.. crazy.
I think we are at the limit of 1/2
@benchmark3332 i doubt it. These tools are jumping in small leaps but doing so regularly and consistently. Ill bet they see 1000ftlbs in like 3yrs
@@trailblazer632 I don’t think he was referring to if whether or not, they are capable of making 1/2” impacts more powerful. Of course, as technology improves they can but just because you can should you. Probably not. At this point these half inch impact are destroying sockets. At this point anything more powerful needs to be on a 3/4”.
@steffendetrick potentially. I would think 1000ftlbs would be the upper limit for most sockets in half inch. Though like anything we may see new metallurgy in sockets too. Right now it seems like the chromemolly is still doing ok but the chrome vanadium is reaching its ljmits. The problem is even in 3/4in 1000ftlbs is a lot. Hell even thr biggest 1in impacts are only really claiming about 1500ftlbs and realistically hitting 1100ftlbs consistently. Makes you wonder just how far things will climb.
no, what's crazy is that this tool did not destroy that impact socket. my dcf900 EATS impact sockets
Ignoring the meat of this video for a moment: you guys really make every video wonderful to watch. The details, production quality and the funny-as-hell jokes are proof that you’re talented and intelligent.
Wow man, thanks! Appreciate that
And here I am thinking Roger Ebert was dead.
The humor is definitely Gen 3 on a forge
I’m glad it was worth all the hype. Milwaukee dropped the ball with the 2767 revision that was very short lived. I appreciate that their design team really took that failure and learned from it. Really appreciate your testing. Thanks for the videos.
How do I know if I have the shittier version of the 2767? I’ve owned it for like 3-4 years now
It’s been 6 plus years since the last generation came out!
@@nhibbs32767 serial number H96A is the good ones, H96B is the bad ones. Yours is old, its not an H96B.
@@nhibbs3the shitty version came out this last summer and only retailed for 2 months before getting a full recall it's is abbreviated by a B at the end of it's serial number.
Stronger AND smaller, now thats an upgrade. Not just making it giant to cram bigger everything in 👍
Stronger, smaller, AND higher build quality. This is what we like to see! It's worth buying just to encourage more of the same!
So glad to hear that they increased the handle length, that’s my biggest problem with my 2767. Big hands + gloves + the mode button being exposed right under your hand means it’s constantly getting accidentally pressed during use. Hopefully that helps the issue.
Interesting I’ve never heard anybody actually say they’ve had that problem but that is Milwaukee’s official reason for extending the handle. Milwaukee said they had complaints from users accidentally hitting the buttons.
Can confirm accidental button presses with gloves on, on the 2767
Yea working under a semi trailer will cause the buttons to be changed accidentally lol...
That's crazy I never would've thought that but I've got small hands
Yes always hitting the button and rev/fwd switch almost everytime@@steffendetrick
You guys are awesome man, seriously. I hope everybody realizes the sacrifice of not accepting tools from companies for testing etc. It could bring some serious money in for the channel but you guys choose to remain neutral and fair, purchasing out of your own pocket for the collective benefit. Thank you guys. I can't get enough of this chanel.
+1 these guys could make BIG sponsorship money with tool makers and retailers, especially now that they are creeping up towards the 500k subscriber mark. Nothing other than integrity and self-control is stopping them. I bet their email inbox is FLOODED with high-dollar sponsorship offers every single week, but they insist on taking the high road and we should all love them for it!
Today is a good day: TTC debuts the Gen 3 and same time I get a notification that my gen 3 is on the way.
My hands get attacked by the shorter handle on the 2767. The Gen 3 model having a longer handle seems like a HUGE improvement to me.
That's great, suspected it might benefit the bear claw folks. The larger handle does somewhat make your job of pushing against its own rotation a bit more effort, just due to the physics of it all
@@TorqueTestChannel Yeah, I can understand that. However, based on how much the 2767 hurts my hand after extended usage, I think it'll be worth it. After tightening the the 32 lug nuts on my truck, the part of my hand that's up against the top of the battery receiver is really starting to hurt.
Thank you for all of the great videos! I'm totally gonna order one of these now.
You’re using a 2767 to put lug nuts on your duramax… Im afraid to ask what you tighten your drain plug with lol jokes aside you only need a 140 ftlb for the 8 lug duramax (directly from Chevy service manual) which the 2767 hits in under a second so if you’re using it long enough to make your hand hurt you’re doing it wrong. I don’t pull out the 2767 until I gotta remove rusty suspension parts. Remember you’re supposed to be able to remove you lugs in the field with nothing more than that shitty crowbar they give you from the factory.
@@McAllisterCo lmao. Rip to the technician who has to take the tires off next time. Hopefully the studs don’t just sheer off. Thankfully the automotive engineers over time have realized that people like him exist and over engineer stuff.
I do up lugs with my M12 3/8s then torque to spec. Even the m12 will get you close after a second or two.
Edit: just rewatched the ttc m12 video, in forward it gets to 100Ft/lbs in 2 seconds flat.
@@TorqueTestChannel I wear 3xl gloves and can't wait to pick this up. I've been on the fence about a new tool for some time. This is the first one I've seen that makes me want to go out and pick one up this weekend.
As an aside, for those of us who have a bunch of other tools from the same company, could you run a quick test of how this might perform with a smaller battery? Thinking of using some batteries from other tools as emergency spares to keep in the truck, should the high power batteries drain in cold weather (hint! refrigerator/freezer tests of batteries for tools kept in cold climates?)
Thanks again for the great work.
Finally, my red Boy is back.
Well done Milwaukee. What's most impressive is that torque curve. Most of us rarely come across something that actually needs the tool maxed out. Most of what we're doing is in the first few seconds, and based on that torque curve, they're going to have some very happy customers.
I agree 100%. The torque curve is insane plus its so compact. I work on cars a lot so this guy is going to come in handy.
I'm a yellow tool guy but I do love Milwaukee too. I'm excited to see when you get your hands on the 961!
Thanks for the update - I saw a previous video of the poor version prior to this, now that I'm shopping for one to do some car work, I'm glad I came across this, and the fact that you have a review of it out here too!
It's been a minute since I've come to the channel but I saw that this new high torque existed (because I had two tools stolen from my work van) and immediately thought that I should see if you guys had a video yet or not.
Super appreciate your work and effort put into this! You guys are friggin awesome! 😎👍
You know Milwaukee had the enginerds working overtime to take back the throne! Seems they did a good job. I'm still on the DCF899. If I often worked on bigger stuff than cars, I'd probably be looking to upgrade. Good tests as always!
Sure I was sheering my nails off with my teefers, then celebrating its victory.
We come for the reviews, but we stay for the production value, the commentary. I hope your channel and team grows larger then you could have ever imagined.
Cheers.
Love that they added the tri beam led’s and it’s nice they made it shorter. Definitely moving in the right direction.
Think that’s been Milwaukee’s modern impact design. Looking reeeeeal good
Wow. I doubted Milwaukee sitting on their laurels and falling behind in technology, but hot damn they absolutely upset the whole market. Astounding!
Impressive engineering and definitely the new top dog IMO for it's length and ability to crush with a more affordable/lighter 5AH.
They sure do take there time- but everytime they release something they definitely try to make the absolute best product… whether they are successful is debatable , but it’s quality!!
@@philipseitz95
Rrriiiiing Brrrriiing - FAILED 2767 REVISION CALLING
...Humm, better not answer
I'll still take the dcf961. Not only because it fits my platform, its massively impressive and has turbo mode. 💯
TURBOOOOOOOO
Mikwekeeee FTW as usual!!!
@@joatmon1857 it doesn’t win
The DCF961 is much bigger physcially and beats the hell out of sockets. I'd rather have the DCF900 if I needed Dewalt. Neither Dewalt is as well rounded as this new Milwaukee though.
Yeah if you need just raw power go for it, but when it comes to power and size the Milwaukee is in a different leaque
As someone who seems to drop a lot of subframes in the rust belt, I definitely need all the beans
Awesome review as always! And yes I'd love to see that slow motion on the battery foot. Thanks! Very fine work indeed! Going to be interesting to see very soon no doubt, what the most torque you can possibly get out of a 1/2-inch drive is, It's impressive that they don't snap off now!
HowToAutomotive has some great repair videos. Cool seeing both these channels on one video. I sold my high torque years ago in anticipation for this. Finally! Thanks.
Love the teardown part. Would appreciate that more. Will you guys consider replacing the grease on your older 2767 and see if that affects the torque numbers at all? A lot of owners are probably in need to regrease their impacts and would appreicate knowing if it changes things.
Thanks for the in depth look into this tool.
I'm set on getting one. I'm also interested in getting a DCF961 just to try some real world comparison testing. I have both battery platform but use Milwaukee 95%+ of the time. The Forge battery it's where its at, as far as im concerned (same as any stacked lithium).
I loved that running Pros/Cons list as the tear down progressed.
It always served as mental reminder of good & bad.
I have a dcf900 and I gotta say I dont regret it at all but props to milwaukee for getting the shorter and stronger version, putting specs the competition didnt even thinked about!
Thank you so much as an auto Im ready to update my 2767 Great Job as always
I really want to see the 961 pretty sure it's going to take that spot back real quick
I think so too, but it's almost in it's own league of head size and weight.
@@TorqueTestChannel you should throw a Milwaukee > Dewalt battery adapter with a powerstack on this (mainly for kicks and giggles) to see what you lose and if it could be worth it for yellow team to adapt for the shorter length with high torque
It’s going to be a bit of a stomp too. The dcf961 already bested the 2967 on shop tool reviews with the basic 5 ah battery vs the forge.
I bought the DCF900 and have been super pleased with it despite never being able to tell the physical difference between it and my 899 when grabbing it out of my tool chest. The 961 should have be a 3/4” anvil by all accounts. Seems like just a way to keep the crown from the Red Army rather than a legitimate product innovation. They need a 3/4 or 1”. Essentially little to no incentive to get rid of the less than a year old 900 for it. That being said, great video! Now throw a Flex 10AH on it and send it. 😉
@@juanc5149
Shop Tool Review got 2,300 breakaway on the Milwaukee 2967 and hit 2,700 with the 961. Just unreal
Never going to need any of the tools that you test, but always enjoy the videos that you make.
Thank you, sir. You doing all of this has definitely made our choice much easier. You channel ppp up every time I search for a new power tool. I endded up buying a Ridgid high torque once you said get one once you can.
This is what i like to see and i want to say this channel is probably one of the main driving factors behind these improvements.
Team red for the win here and at a good price well done.
You've really come a long way from your beginnings. Great job. You are the standard by which this kind of testing is done.
Something ive done to my m18 fuel tools when Ive opened them up is stick a gob of hot glue around the plastic that houses the battery terminations. Its only held in by the frame clamping around it and theres slop that lets the battery flop around.
Though gotta make sure you stick a battery on while its still warm so it doesnt cure cockeyed!
What a fantastic video. Reminds me of an old tool review channel no longer making videos.
I bought a 2767 serial A and the electronics are different than previous before the B serials, the trigger is laggy and feels weird . Definitely selling it and gona give the new one a try
Thank you for the review. Very interesting!
✌🕶🔧
Looking forward to your review. I will be getting one based on the results.
Just bought one yesterday and already got to test its true power today on a tanker truck.
It’s purely amazing to see something cordless in half inch beat a 1inch air gun.
Sad day for anyone who runs DeWalt. Our reign was short lived even the new DeWalt high torque won't top this simply due to price and size. It might hit a little harder but it will be way too big and heavy also pushing the 1/2" anvil way to far. It will take a few years for another brand to make an impact this good.
I say a 1/2" is a 1/2", dcf961 takes the win.
Really impressive performance.
However I think 1/2" is pretty much maxed out at this point, if they want to go beyond 1000ftlbs for this size/class of tool a bigger anvil as a new standard would make sense.
shop tool reviews has their hands on a dcf961. Using a torque gun, they torqued bolts to 2600 or 2700 pounds and the 961 pulled them off with a 5ah battery. The 6amp would do more. I dont think the anvils are going to last long, nor are sockets at 2700pounds.
@@nwngunneryeah but that thing was eating 1/2” sockets alive. As much as I hate the Makita high torque only coming in at 3/4” anvil I have to say for the power level it makes the most sense.
@alexmills1329 I believe they will offer it in 3/4, the nose cone looks to be large enough to offer the larger anvil
@@nwngunner
I've seen that one, it loosened 800ftlbs or so more than the super long Snap On.
But it destroyed a socket in no time.
Extraordinary detail ! Super helpful !! I learned lots !!!
Thanks mate . 👊🏼
Awesome 👏🏻 job guys
I really enjoyed and appreciate your time and energy. Just became a subscriber
Thanks can’t wait to see more
Slightly odd opinion here: I look forward to seeing if/how Bosch responds to this one.
...Okay okay, I know Bosch isn't super popular in auto circles, but I already had 18v batteries for home use when I started working, and their Profactor 740n keeping up with the 2767 was... Actually encouraging, lol. Kinda hoping they come out with a new high torque, considering they seem to be showing their impacts more love.
...And a 12v ratchet wouldn't go amiss, but at this point I am just dreaming x3
I'm also one of the dozen users who own Bosch tools, LOL
I don't think the 740N and 770N will be updated anytime soon. They've been in the market for like 2 years?
I wouldn't expect they release a follow up in less than a couple more years, hope I'm wrong, though.
PS: yes I'd like a cordless ratchet in either 12V or 18V and a follow up to their 18V multi tool. I've got both tools in M12 Fuel guise but would be willing to switch to blue if they're compelling enough. One can only dream...
Keep dreaming
@@mann_idonotreadreplies Thanks I will
I have the dcf900. I gotta say, I enjoy how powerful it is when it comes to bolt removal. The new gen Milwaukee is also interesting. But it depends on the interest and battery platform you have. All in all, happy with the dcf900.
TTC does excellent testing but you really do need to take a step back every now and then and consider how close these tools really are, especially in the 'top-tier.' This is one of the few realms of consumer goods where there is still some really good, strong competition going on. I think the most useful thing about TTC is the breadth of their testing that allows you to decide what 'battery family' is the best compromise for your needs as "red vs yellow" is silly; both Dewalt and Milwaukee make great gear.
Its much more important to weed out the true stinkers and cut through the confusing/misleading marketing. I love my Dewalt tools but I've gotta admit their marketing is total BS a lot of the time. TTC has done a great job of showing that, especially with the Flexvolt Advantage vs Power Detect video. I give props to Dewalts engineers but I've got ZERO RESPECT for their marketing people. Stuff like battery discharge performance is as clear as mud with Dewalt. I never would have known their 6AH 20v battery is so much better for high discharge applications than their 8AH if it wasn't for TTC. You would think "bigger battery means more power" but that isn't the case at all.
Love TTC for cutting through the BS and telling us working stiffs what we really need to know!
No point in jumping to another battery platform if your tools work and do the intended job.
I have considered switching to team red but then I just open my tool box and see the thousands of dollars in batteries and change my mind.
Can't wait until he test out the dcf961
I am a roadside assistance tech, I plan to aquire one of these next check... and beat it mercilessly... thank you torque test channel🥰
Neither here nor there, off-subject, but still worth noting. I subbed to you guys prob a year and a half ago. I was getting notifications regularly, but recently, say 3 months or so, not any TTC notifications. To be fair, I have over 400 subs, so I don't ever see all my notifications, but you should at least come up as one of the 12 tiles on my suggested feed or my 'Home" tab. I'll try running TTC in my search bar more often to see if that revives you. You and Project Farm are my favorite tool reviewers. Todd shows up in my feed several time a week. Thought you might like to know in case Google is doing something funky to skew your numbers downward.
Always great reviews guys- thanks!
I am a mechanic and I've put off buying a 1/2" cordless impact for years now, but I think this is going to be the one. Thanks for the comprehensive testing you guys do it really helps us trade workers out.
You have been missing out either way…
The price is what surprises me the most, I think we have dewalts 900 knocking on their door to thank for that
Excellent breakdowns! Subscribed!
I recently purchased the Gen 2, it came with a free 5 amp battery and is more than enough for what I do, but I love watching these kind of comparison videos of new and improved tools. Great video.
Great review - I've been holding off purchasing a Gen2, looks like that was the right call.
I would like to see how this tool performs with a High-Output 6.0 compared to the Forge. I already own quite a few of those and I would like to know what kind of performance I'm leaving on the table if I don't join the Forge bandwagon just yet.
As always, thanks for the review!
Can’t really compare the 2 batteries. The new forge battery is supposed to compare to the high output 12.0
Best way I can put it is the new forge is the new 12.0 high output battery but the size of a 6.0
@@kadendoyle2759 I agree that's what all the marketing has said so far - but a lot of tests show that only the highest draw direct drive tools (saws, grinders, etc,) make much more steam with the 12.0 over the 6.0...
I've heard and seen a lot of reviews showing the performance bump you get by replacing a 5.0 with a Forge, but haven't really seen a solid side by side against the 6.0
for 300 smackers and seeing the tear down i cant imagine their profit margins are all that high. genuinely seems like an exceptional price for what it is
It probably dont cost them $30 to make it if we're being honest. I'd say $50 max
@@codyswilley the raw materials probably, once you factor the labor, machining, and tooling, absolutely not. the brushless motor alone would be close to $50 at scale prices. the hammer, spring, and anvil in the impact head probably approach $100. the planetary gears before assembly labor might be around $20. the driver board is probably about that as well. so that's $190 without including the housing, controls, misc components, and labor. id assume a break even price close to $240 +- $15.
you gotta realize the tool market runs pretty similar to printers and ink, the actual tool isnt where they make their money, its the batteries.
That's because they don't make much off the tools themselves. They make all their serious profit off of the batteries.
I bought my high torque Milwaukee almost 2 years ago now and it's a beast. Was hard for me to admit anything could hang with it until my coworker got a dewalt dcf891b. That little compact mid-torque is a monster, I can see why the dcf900 is touted so highly. Electric power tools are getting nuts anymore, even the budget brands are often impressive. I'm a Milwaukee fan, but I'm all about saving money if there's something comparable available (Bauer angle grinder ive been using for a year now at home has more balls than the milwaukee and dewalt ones I use at work) seems like its hard to go wrong anymore outside of bottom of the barrel stuff like hypertough and such.
I bought it for plumbing to remove 4 inch cast iron plugs on clean outs that haven't been touched in a decade or more.
I use it with a special socket set made specifically to remove these drain plugs. I think the biggest one is 2-1/2 inches (square) for a 4 in raided head plug.
Opening these old sewers has saved my clients replacement of the entire cleanout tee. Usually in a wall or in concrete.
When you get the DCF 961 I would love to hear your opinion on whether to get that or the DCF 900
I keep seeing comments similar to this but I was pretty sure he already had tested one.
But that was the unreleased version
By personally owning the gen2 Milwaukee with a half-inch drive with the short handle I do notice more backlash into the user vs using other brands with longer handles it feels like less and I think the long-handle would help with that that's why I think they corporated that into the tool.
Longer handle increases the lever action and all else being equal would increase the difficulty of handling the machine. But yes it could have slightly less vibration, all things being equal, because it's distributed over more area.
I work as a light rail mechanic currently and the size difference is massive for me. More beans is always great, but that kind of beans while being smaller is exactly what the doctor ordered when you're underneath a train. Ordering mine today.
Great content. It's helped me decide what was important to me for my next impact tool investment.
What always impresses me about Milwaukee is that they don’t just aim to be the strongest in their segment- they do it while being the most compact and ergonomic as well.
I own and like Dewalt, but they can’t touch Milwaukee on anything but power right now. Long live the red king.
Milwaukee tools are hardly ergonomic, they never were.
@@FusionBoost2.0They are unlike any of the other brands being uncomfortable.
They been stomping on Milwaukee on power. With their gen 3 being second place on arrival. As for ergonomic comments do you really own dewalts?
@@juanc5149 Each to their own. I like most m18 drill driver/impact and torque wrench handles. Not really into the swollen m12 (battery in handle).
They really fit *my* hand.
Like the feel. But Milwaukee sucks on weight balance. Very top heavy and all over the place.
Dewalts grips are usually great. Don't know about their balance but I've held lot's of clumsy Dewalt tools (brad nailer, lol).
Makita wins balance and anti-vibration on new tools. Easily.
I myself am invested in Milwaukee. Because I bought a kit and have been building on it. Very happy with my choice. If I got to switch brand I'd go with Makita. Dewalt comes last of the 3. But I still like Dewalt. I'm not a "army of red" fanatic.
@@juanc5149 What do you mean "they been stomping on Milwaukee"? Milwaukee across various power tools has been crushing Dewalt for years in power (if not reliability and warranty). Just because Dewalt released some new tools in the past year to play catchup with older Milwaukee stuff doesn't mean they've been crushing Milwaukee...And yes, I own many brands including Makita, Dewalt and Milwaukee. I'm not loyal to any brand-I buy what what performs well and fits the way I work.
That battery is serious. I am looking forward to the new battery next year also.
I am team Red after some Yellow fails, it happens i get it. I started Milwaukee with their M12 Fuel and was very impressed with the size and power. It made sense to also progress to the M18 Fuel.
Regardless of your color choice you have to admit getting this kind of power from a 18/20/24 volt battery is very impressive.
Who would have ever thought years ago when a battery powered tool was, at best, used for installing some cabinet screws.
Stay strong brothers and thank you for the video.
Great video! I was curious, does the forge battery work with the gen 2 m18 high torque? If it does, does the gen 2 get any more beans?
Love the channel, you do a great job, keep up the great work
Im team red, but have enjoyed seeing all the other brands catch up and surpass Milwaukee over these last 3 or so years. Just means Gen 3 will have more competition and better products for everyone.
once again, milwaukee absolutely killing it. smaller tool and more power than ever. 961 is stronger but its big af. im taking this gen 3 under any car alll day. legit the evolved version of gen 2. smaller and stronger. happy they really trying to make a better product
Exactly, if i just want power ill get a 1inch monster 😂
Nice! Good to see companies improving already great tools.
I've been waiting for this!!! THANK YOU!!! Thank you for a honest review!!!
awesome! my new 2967 & forge battery will arrive tomorrow. I was kinda hoping you wouldve tested it with the flex 24v batteries just for fun though lol
Think they wanted a straight up test. And cuddle it first like a new baby…..😊
I hope you've seen the dewalt 961, it's supposed to be better then their 900 and we would love to see you test it
Just ordered this kit and waiting for it to arrive. 😊
Thanks for all the info. Your channel got me to get the Makita 3/4 40V which has come in handy where the Milwaukee's didn't have enough force and saved a co-worker from getting the gen 2 model B Milwaukee. Will be looking forward to the Makita 1 inch impact there is limited info on to see if it is actually good or a bust.
Makita 1" is what i dream about
Wasnt really impressed with the gen2 after the 2 i had broke with in months of each other. Might give this one a chance but thats a very long shot
Watch the vid again. Milf upgraded it
For those of us that don't want to drop 300 bucks on the tool and another 200 on a forge battery, could you do some testing with the high output batteries many of us already have?
What I was wondering too
The build quality looks very good! I'm going to pick one up.
Great deep internal explanation and measurements!
Just how I like it
Honestly for the Dewalt dcf900 and this new Milwaukee there isn’t enough power difference to switch. Especially if you already have the DEWALT batteries/charger. The DCF 900 is more powerful than most anyone needs. For 1/2 inch, if you need more than 900ft lbs something is wrong. Still a very interesting test and good to see incremental improvements 👍🏻
As true as that is you know there are people out there that “jump ship” from brand to brand just for 50-100 ftlbs when anything around 800ish is plenty
milwaukee has a better lineup in general you're missing out
@@mmettej Not for high torque. I own Milwaukee electric ratchets and one mini impact. I don’t run just one brand. So no I’m not missing out.
well they do now @@nordicpride9708
Good lawd that area under the curve
Nice to see a gen 3 update that actually is a huge improvement. I have been really happy with their gen 2 nail guns. Huge improvement over the gen 1. I wish they would update some of their other tools that are generally considered mediocre. Even a lot of their "good" tools could still be improved upon.
I've had my malfakki for 5 years and abused the crap out of it. Still running the original batteries as well. After seeing this testing and results I might retire the OG home and buy that new one for the shop. Great videos appreciate all your content.
team read has been kind of disappointing with their gen 3 stuff lately, glad to see they stepped up their game to remind everyone why they're the yard stick.
Bro turbo charged DeWalt is a animals and makes this look like a pup hope to see it next
Thank for all videos
Thanks for your great tool tests
The 961 is eating this thing like a snack . I've watched the 961 brake 2700lbs in under 10s it broke 2800 in 10s on a fresh battery....
Agreed it's likely above, and given its chunk it should be. But the 2500-3000ft-lbs on 1/2" impacts..... if they could do 2800 ft-lbs i'm sure the brand would be happy to put that on the box.
Were you watching DeWalt’s infomercials?
@muscovy7 watch shop tools review of dcf961
Where did you see that? Those numbers really don't jive with reality.
@@--_DJ_--tested on RUclips, real numbers. This one did 2400 on the same setup
Hey, TTC. Great vid! I'm wondering if you might revisit the Ridgid Octane HT, their new high torque stock, and the new high torque you modded with the new 8ah 21700 and 12ah 21700 batteries Ridgid has released? I would love to see if they all perform better, but I'll admit I have a soft spot for team orange. All the best!
Really really liked your film this particular time
I can't wait to see the dcf961 production model on here when you get it.
Yes we need the power. My breaker bar has basically been retired since buying the dcf900. Thing has been a life saver.
When people ask "do you need that much" .... today i removed a steel driveshaft from a very worked ford truck. 12 point, 12mm grade 10 bolts with lock tite and many years of grime. To access them a swivel or universal style socket and extension was the easiest. I first grabbed my dewalt mid-torque which is my most often by far used impact. Did not remove any so i went straight on it with no swivel or extension.(though much harder and slower to access) still nothing... so i grabbed the snapon high torque. It may not be the strongest impact on torque test channels chart but make no mistake, its a very violently strong impact. Immediately it broke my 12 point impact socket. Not having a ton of 12 point sockets i used what i had and a chrome very old SK socket got slapped on a ridiculously strong 1/2 to 3/8 matco reducer. All 8 were removed and i have new respect for old SK sockets. I remember the days that an air powered 2135 ingersoll was as strong as it gets. It would have been useless against these bolts. Hell, i still own that old Ingersoll. In conclusion, the answer is yes. Hell yes its needed. When you work flatrate and time is money they are worth everything.
Love your reviews, great quality and exceptional presentation! You're like the version of AvE that I could introduce to grandma.
Thank you @TorqueTestChannel for stepping in to fill AvE's place since his basic retirement, for pulling tools apart so we can get a peek under the skirt and see how their constructed.👍👍
@@tdotw77he seemed to have gone down a bit of a crazy conspiracy hole. Started with the covid shutdowns. Which I can sort of understand. He's entitled to his opinions. But I watched him for his tool reviews. Enjoyed the rantings and ravings. But then things started to go down a different path. And to be fair Canadas government does infringe on freedoms way more than America's. I think he'd be more at home (at least politically) in Montana.
This is awesome. I have been impatiently waiting for this video for a while now. I love the testing you guys do and I can't wait to see how this new 1/2 inch impact...s the trades nowadays :D
Great test and evaluation!! Can we make a metric for beans², the area under the curve?
Thank you very much I'm so glad you have been able to get the gen 3 tested.
Great review and tear down, thank you!!
I know these will be VERY hard to get in the US but I hope at some point in time you can test out the tools made for Lidl. Parkside is the brand in question and the Performance line of tools in some cases is great value!
I did the older m18 driver mod to 1/2” anvil and was happy, I just did the new impact driver with one and it’s an absolute beast even compared to the older one.
Hey TTC, can you guys make a video with the various Milwaukee impacts showing the approximate torque the different modes make in a certain amount of time. For instance, the compact says it makes less than 20ft lbs on mode 1. How many impacts does it generally take to achieve this? Just a couple or 5 seconds ish. Also, if you keep letting it impact will it continue to tighten past 20? I think that would be SUPER useful information as it’s not spoken about in the manual beyond saying mode 1 is less than 20lbs. Thanks for the videos, you guys do an amazing job and comparable with the greats like project farm; keep it up!!
Yup, I'm waiting on a 3/4 drive version of this. My 1/2 midtorque does great for a lot of things but it would be nice to have something with as much power as this but 3/4 drive. Then if it can't remove it I can just use my 40 inch breaker bar with the 3/4 drive socket