Latest Walmart Hyper Tough Tools vs M12: Too Cheap to Pass Up?
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Are Walmart's cordless Hyper Tough line of tools and new brushless introductions worth it? Do they stack up to the similar looking Milwaukee M12 stuff, or at least hold their own for their price?
We find out by testing their extended rach 3/8" cordless ratchet and new brushless 3/8" impact wrench that's claiming numbers like 280 ft-lbs. Higher than M12? We'll see.
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You guys should test more SKIL tools. They have their own ratchet now and have a ton of drills and impacts you haven't tested as well.
I'd love this. I'm into the Skil 12v line for casual around the house stuff, and I've been pleased.
@@hardeho I am too, I use their 12-volt drill at work because it's super light and it doesn't fatigue my wrist.
It's not bad stuff but it's all the same company but I'm very curious what the results are
@@angrybigfoot752 What's all the same company? Skil and Hyper Tough?
Like a lot of others, I'm in the Skil 12 volt line as what they call a weekend warrior.
I have that exact Hyper Tough ratchet and love it. I don't need it to be high torque or particularly fast. I just need it to run down a handful of nuts & bolts occasionally then I can tighten/torque them later if necessary. It was cheap, and it's convenient not to have to swing a ratchet in tight spaces.
Yeah same for me but I went with the short neck model because its only $40 and I didnt think I would need the longneck at least for now, probably will end up with one at some point as well. I just picked up their tiny palm router, was a steal at $50 with a nice case and some bits and accessories. Its not going to do the job of my DeWalt or hammerhead corded routers but I dont want it to (wanted a lower powered compact cordless for small jobs).
Build quality will mean you will probably have to buy 3-4 Walmart ones to last the same as the name brands
@JD-yx7be In the unlikely event a DIYer such as myself manages to kill one of these tools we can replace it many times over and still save money. I don't think this is the comment you think it was.
@@JD-yx7be Eh. Two year in-store warranty (at least on mechanic on youtube successfully used it) and WAY better build quality than I'm used to for Walmart. I have the extended ratchet and it is less creaky and more solid than my brushed Milwaukee ratchet. Probably won't survive extended abuse, but there's a reason they didn't complain about build quality in this video...
Yeah the Hyper Tough 12v long ratchet is a real gem. I have it and don't plan to buy any of the other 12v tools except maybe the rotary tool or 3/8 drill if i decide I need a second battery for the ratchet as the 3/8 drill kit is only $2 more than buying just a battery.
if you are a home wrencher...honestly you don't need to worry about being faster...just go cheap and spend your money on something else that matters more.
Or just swing a ratchet by hand like we've been doin for generations :P
@@TorqueTestChanneloh no. No no no.
We need Milwaukee copies for a third of the price.
@@TorqueTestChannelI swing ratchets a lot just for the noise factor and torque control. When are we going to get a brushless ratchet that has torque control, similar to a torque wrench but maybe within 10%.
@@tanker242and then it’s “only” 230% of the price. Why pay more than 2x for something you don’t need? Because it’s “a good deal”?
@@hunterrick4 I’m pretty sure Milwaukee has an m12 electric torque wrench
"Click things to be shown those" at the end had me rolling 🤣 what a hilariously perfect way to end it! Fantastic work as always 👏
Love your content! You should do best of "affordable" or best of "budget" tools. Most of us home DIY wrenchers can't afford the Red or Yellow tools..
Once again, one of the most useful channels on da interwebs. My only experience with Hyper Tough has been a pair of rechargeable work lights. They have served me very well for over a year now. One even flew off the top of my SUV doing about 60 mph one night and bounced several times on the asphalt with no apparent damage, so at the very least Pretty Tough. They are slow to recharge, however.
Thank you for the videos. As DIY, I really appreciate the tests on the Walmart brands.
Appreciate you guys taking on the hyper tough! Now I know how far I can push that ratchet without snapping it!
I bought the normal reach ratchet for 40$ 6 months ago. I work part time as a mechanic, and have been genuinely impressed by the performance (for 40$). The form factor of the Milwaukee has always been my favorite. But the hyper tough kit is literally 1/4 the price of the Milwaukee bare brushed tool. Also bought the hyper tough 12v rotory tool ($30 kit) for cutting bolts, flush cutting flooring, and other small projects. Again i am impressed by the price to performance. Both are amazing tools if handled properly for the price. I haven't been gentle with either, but I don't treat them like a 200$ professional grade tool.
$40 thats the cost of a decent non electric ratchet!!
Yeah I find it easy to recommend the short $40 as long as people know its just an electric ratchet not some kind of torque wrench or impact wrench (its surprising how many think that way about these kinds tools). I honestly plan on getting quite a few more tools from this line with how pleased I am.
That's good to hear.
Too bad it's sold at Walmart; Hyper Tough.
Some folks have a bad taste and feeling about it.
Can't speak to the Walmart variant, but for rotary tools I have tried quite a few. I always use my Dremel now, because a few of the other brands I have purchased failed me. Had more than one give up on me part way through a cut, but the Dremel always finishes the job. I've yet to have to replace my original. Meanwhile a few of the off brand ones I had at my parents / work have already died. I usually take my Dremel with my in my tool bag now.
Edit:
To clarify I would still recommend the off brand if it was a lot cheaper. But buying a Dremel is only about $40 for a corded variant and I think it's definitely worth a small premium if you need a good rotary tool. Just my take. To each their own.
Back before Hart came out, the holiday hypertough leftovers were $5 at my wally world after Christmas.
Given the gen4 Milwaukee impact drivers were a little too strong for sheet metal and self tappers, I picked up half a dozen of the hypertough ones. They've been an absolute surprise.
Appreciate your real world testing. Thanks for the Videos.
I have the hyper tough 1/4 brushless. Have used it for 6 months in a dealership and it has held up fine. Love it for the price.
Enjoyable review! I bought the tool combo Hyper Tough standard length and long 12v ratchets. As a DYIer, I'm very happy with them.
Thanks for doing this video. Definitely answered some questions for me.
I really wanted an electric ratchet for a one-time use while assembling a resin shed a couple months ago and couldn't find a deal on a used M12 or find those 4V Ryobis in stock. I totally spaced that these existed. I'd heard good things about the impact driver (not this wrench) and would have happily plunked down a few clams to try one. My store finally started carrying the 12V stuff this month, so I might grab one just to have on hand.
Yes! I have been wanting to see these :D I have the short neck ratchet and love it, I was planning on getting the impact wrench next month
Wow this is actually the exact comparison (wally world vs 2554) I was talking with my friend about the other day! Thanks for the video!
Good to know this is a new low.
Thank you for your testing!
I bought the 12v shirt hypertough and use at work regularly and impressed how it has held out. I’ll probably pick up the extended
Should do a retro tool once a month or perhaps once a quarter, could be fun. Would like to know how my old DeWalt DW059 does and how much technology have changed. Old school vs New School
I was thinking about this too a few days ago! I would love to see this as well.
Lets see some classic Black & Decker and Craftsman and Rigid and others from that golden era
Could be a good starter cordless tool for when your manual ratchet and socket gallery are finally complete with great reliable options that make you money and save the day.
Thanks for doing this! Knowing this now, I’ll probably pass on the impact (sadly) but would still probably go for the rachets. I just changed the valve body in my Subaru last week and I got to use a buddy’s snap on Rachet and the speed that it brought to just running nuts out and in in the engine bay saved so much time. Obviously this is not as fast but if it saves my forearm effort to hand spin them loose, it’s well worth the price for me in applications like that.
I have the extended reach and it's been great for me. I live in Oregon so no salt on the roads and pretty clean threads, even on older cars, and I find this to be similar in speed and torque to my brushed Milwaukee (and actually a bit better built). Super easy to recommend at the price. Not on par with a top tool especially on messed up threads, but still way faster than doing it by hand.
The impact surprised me. It takes lug nuts off and anything else I have used it for no problem
Been real curious about the Hyper Tough stuff… but I’ll just stick with Ryobi and Milwaukee. I do run a lot of Hart hand tools, but my buddy can get Milwaukee tools at cost so I’ll be doing a lot of upgrades soon!
What is cost like on those? I assume home depot takes like 30% or smth?
@jameshaines4260 I work at an electrical wholesaler in Canada, I bought a Milwaukee m18 heat gun at cost for 100 bucks, we sell it for 170
@@yoboialex Exibit A why I don't buy name brand shit, price gouging motherfuckers
I got the hypertough 3/8 long short ratchet & 3/8 impact wrench. They both have been great. I drive a nissan murano & they have busted off lug nuts, spark plugs & busted off nuts that i knew it couldn't do, but it did.
I recommended you guys do this last week, and here it is. Awesome! It was a bit of a disappointment, I was really hoping the HT would turn out higher numbers than that.
I got the hyper tough ratcheting wrench 2 pack for 100 bucks with battery and wrenches and chargers and it was hands down my most favorite purchase for tools
I rebuild medium voltage breakers and comtactors . Most of the bolts are only 1/4”-3/8” but in places with almost no room to turn a ratchet. I may give this a try as I like the extended reach. Everything gets torqued when reassembled so as long as it gets snug it will be good enough.
Yooo I’ve been into the HyperTough RUclips rabbit hole for the last couple days and then you make this video 🔥
Definitely not considering getting one anymore for my auto tech career (not even for home use)
This was awesome as always guys, however, I am going through flashlight withdrawals and I need my fix!!
I bought the extended reach ratchet for my job. I need to adjust the setup of a machine with hex head screws. I dont need it often and the tool is mine so i didnt want to spend too much. Its perfect. Its not really your style, but for the lower end tools especially what different reall world tasks they can do is more important than what they vant do or more expenive tools that do it faster.
Finally, a video that doesn't cost me money! No need to run out and buy this as I did with your Dewalt flexvolt circular saw video 😬
I have a kimo cordless ratchet and its not amazing but i do like it. It definitely saves me a lot of time working on cars on the weekends
thanks for the test! that price tag definitely attracts attention....
I wanted these as a space saving and cheap set to keep in my RV. I purchased the brushless drill, the short ratchet, and the brushless impact driver. Im glad i didnt get the impact wrench after seeing this. I did test them before putting them under the seat of the dinette. They did ok for small mechanical jobs on my truck and building a chicken coop in the back yard. Impact driver had just enough power to drive 3inch long #8 screws. So they are alright for now. I opted for the fast charger as well so the batteries dont take 10 hours to charge. I did not get the bigger battery, though maybe i should get one to give the driver a little more power.
I just looked for $95 you can get both Hypertough ratchets with a battery and charger each. That's not bad really, especially for a DIYer. If I didn't already have a Hercules ratchet I'd give them a try, I might still buy one to be honest.
I have a Craftsman Nextec 12v kit that just refuses to die. drill, right angle impact driver, auto hammer, multi-tool, and Dremel-type tool.
I pieced it together from sales about 15 years ago and I've only had one battery out of six die.
Those tools installed a couple of decks and all of the DIY for my house during that time.
I bought into the Ryobi system 2 years ago to get some tools with a little more power but that other kit is still going strong.
Got the same tools! I very much enjoy them too. Very nice tools. But man are they expensive now! Took awhile to get them all but they are worth it. For bigger jobs I use the new Craftsman 20v tools.
That craftsman nextec right angle impact is GREAT!!! Not the strongest thing ever, but I do electrical assembly for a living and that thing has been excellent and has been going for YEARS.
I also have some ancient craftsman nextec that refuse to die. The batteries hold almost no charge, the oscillating saw is useless, and the drills are quite light duty. I wonder if it is the same batteries as these.
I have a ryobi 18v 1/2 impact from probably 2004. It’s dark green, brushed, and probably compares with that hyper tough 😅
I used it for about a decade until I realized how much more powerful stuff was out there.
I just bought the short hyper tough ratchet because the Milwaukee never sells cheap, ever used. Since I noticed the HT ratchet is EXACTLY the same as the Tool Pro brand from Super Cheap Auto from Australia!
I own both and have not been disappointed with either. I also own m12 stuff also and ya m12 is faster but most of the time I'm in no rush, thanks for your testing....
I like it for quarter inch bolts you know the small stuff.
I’ve been curious to see how these perform, not surprised to be completely honest but for the money it’s great for a DIYer or just light work in general. Is there any chance of a Hercules battery comparison like you’ve done before for DeWalt and Milwaukee? Would love to see that!
Should trade that impact in and get a new one. The impact driver version hammers really hard even with the small battery
My hyper tough 3/8 impact cuts off using the 4ah battery like you experienced with the 2ah battery. This was after using it for a bit. So you would have likely experienced the same issue with a 2/3 full 4ah. I am still happy with the purchase because I will be taking it and the ratchet to Pull A Part and I would not be as hurt if I lost it in the yard as compared to the big brands.
I had a craftsman grinder c3 and would cut off due to lithium ion batteries that have a safety feature so they don’t burn out but was annoying so had to buy adapter from craftsman to Milwaukee battery adapter problem solved- I could never finish a job with battery cutting off
great video, i would really like to see the infinum long reach vs the milwaukees and snap on aswell as there high speeds normal length but i get they are expensive. but the prices of infinium keep coming down and the milwaukee keep going up, im in the market for a long reach and based on price its actually a hard choice now cause theyre the same for me and the matco is a smaller head than even the 2569-20 . again i get the price is hard but would be a interesting watch
been waiting for this
Now hyper tough also came out with a 1/2" 20volt impact wrench, claiming 300 ft/lb. Would like to see that impact wrench on your channel.
I noticed on harbor freight's Bauer page that they're showing a 3/8 ratchet is coming soon. 18v so not compact like these, but I'm hoping it's cheap and good enough to make some sense for those of us already in the brand.
I've bought this thing with the fast charger and the 4ah battery. Mine definitely can do lug nuts with the standard battery (I do also have a torque wrench so I know they are torqued) so I'm surprised your model couldn't. I guess that's just the level of quality control you get with cheaper tools. I'm very happy with this purchase saving me some money for my light duty projects around the garage.
Me too
Same here.
Same mine was ripping them off of an E350 today. With a half inch adapter.
@@IamHenshawhow about no
@@Highstranger951 How about yes. Lol. I got no reason to lie bud. I have always been leary of El Cheapo tools, but I will say this new Hyper Tough line definitely hangs in there, from what I've seen personally.
I love the Walmart extended electric ratchet, just used it to take apart and put together my engine. Obviously just to thread and unthread the bolts and nuts. I loved just breaking it loose and zipping it out.
I Was literally just looking at these last night and wondering when or if you'd do a video on them lol
Yes! Thank you!
I would love to see yall test out the 20v hyper tough 1/2" brushless impact.
I've used my 3/8 M12 impact at work to pull head bolts out of a 5.7 hemi out of a ram. That's impressive.
@houston5508 Have you ever even used a power tool? A ryobi impact couldn't loosen a drain plug on an oil pan let alone a head bolt
Been waiting on this, glad to see it. Thought about that hyper tough long ratchet but after seeing this I think i will pass. Many other youtubers hype up these hyper tough tools. I appreciate your no BS standardized approach to testing these tools.
Wanted to hype them TBH, we support this kind of pricing in today's market. Just didn't find any data here to back up the hype, but doesn't mean they are useless depending on your needs. For example the 3/8" might be a sweet little hip shooter for top of engine valve cover/intake manifold stuff. Dont have to worry about ruining bolts as much, and people pay several hundred for Snap-On's version of that same idea. But to compare them what the specs of other equally spec'd tools, which is our usual MO, yeah no
Agreed a Zillion percent there are a lot of RUclipsrs that do videos but put a lot of BS about how good Hyper tools are also the reviews are also BS about Hyper Tools ... If you are a DIY persons a Maintenance person or a Small engine Mechanic Hyper Tools are a good buy if you are a Mechanic and bang wrenches all day stick to the Pro Brands
I remodel kitchens and bathrooms, and I got a hart impact drill from Walmart as a joke 2 years ago. Ended up keeping it and It still works great. I've never had issues with it. Obviously it can't sink large lagbolts or anything
Hello Mr TorqueTest, I wondered after seeing some of your videos that you showed off viewer’s tools they sent you. I wondered if you wanted to try/test out my Mikita 9.6v impact from about ‘00, that still works. It doesn’t have the “beans” it used to, but I was shocked when I found it and squeezed the trigger and it chooched. Just to see how things have improved. If I had the skills to rebuild it to bring its numbers up, I would…but instead of tossing it, I thought it would be a cool video comparison for the channel. Just got to let me know where to send it. Cheers
As a retired A&P Mechanic who owns a lot of great tools I bought the Hyper Tough 3/8" Dr. long reach for the heck of it & didn't want to spend $250 for the Milwaukee long reach (I own several Milwaukee Fuel tools BTW). I'm glad I did cuz I really like it, it's a great deal and a pretty good tool so far. Batteries are cheap and there's always a 24hr Walmart open close by in case you need a new battery in a pinch also. This one's good for those tight spots after breaking the fasteners loose & when needing a bit more reach with a ratchet in an engine bay etc.. Glad you did this video, I was considering getting the 3/8 impact. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.💯👍
It would be awesome to see you guys test both corded and cordless shopvacs. I’ve been trying to find anything about dewalts 16 gallon 6.5hp stealth sonic and can’t find anything. Plus the closest to a scientific test I can find is project farms video 2 years ago and didn’t even have any vacs I’ve been considering.
This is the video I have been waiting for 😅
The timing of this video is perfect. I like to save my change and then take it to Walmart so the machine can count it. Then I buy ammo, tools and whatever else I need.
I bought the hyper tough impact. Last time I used it I threw it across the garage then put it in the trash because it kept "stalling out" trying to unscrew a fastener that it absolutely should of been able to pull out. Wish I out the money towards Milwaukee
Update, the amazon E-screw driver you tested. It is kick ass.
Deal at $18 too
Oh the Denali? I know right. Shocking
I have Hyper Tough corded 1/2" Hammer/Drill, a corded Circular Saw, an LED bench light, and a few other knick knacks and they are all very good. Certainly for home use the brand is worth a look for those on a budget. Of course I am not a fan of cordless tools at all. We're simply not there yet.
Thanks for the Videos. Is it possible to include Skil 12V and 20V tools in your tests?
This was very informative, in my personal opinion, owning a go kart I'd rather have cheap tools like that in my trailer and garage than the Milwaukee that way if I drop it or lose it etc I don't feel as bad about it
I was just about to find your most recent video to suggest you test hyper tough tools lmao
Would love to see a review/comparison/test of the Wurth 12V ratchet. Don't know if they're available in the states but here in canada I keep seeing ads for them and I'm increasingly intrigued
I’m really surprised the impact did so poorly. I’ve done the lug nuts on 3 different vehicles so far, with no problem at all.
Ratchet did about how I expected. Still love mine though. A little speed difference just doesn’t make a difference to me. Not like I’m working on the clock
I began using hercules power tools and I'll be damned, I don't want to use my old DeWalt stuff anymore. I'd personally never use the Hyper Tough stuff because I don't want all my home projects to take twice as long. Herc is where it's at if you're going cheap.
I was considering these as a daily Cary in my tool bag, but now I think I'm leaning towards the Hercules or skil 12 volt
I've been using an M12 screwdriver at work for 5 year every day working on old computers and I'm not easy on it.. It still performs very well after years of abuse, and it made me buy the cheap brushed 5 piece m12 kit recently, and i don't regret it at all! Fantastic tools for the price that'll last years, and the old brushed stuff still holds out after years with the same battery.
2 video week, hells yeah!
I was able to remove lug nuts during my review. I did tighten the lug nuts to 150 ft/lbs (or more)
Me, too! And there are a lot of comments like yours here, and my own experience mirrors your review (I watched it). Something seems odd about that ...
Thanks for watching it. I did see during my testing that some Hyper Tough tools vary widely from test to test. I am going to try out the 20 volt impact wrench so I may throw the 12 in with that to get some extra readings.@@alleneaston507
I use the Hyper tough electric lawn care tools. I love them.
Yeah I have a hyper tough leaf blower and weed whacker that I got as a set for like 50 bucks and they've been working great for like 3 years now
I was going to get the hyper tough . But I guess I'll wait for Milwaukee deals
I have the hyper normal reach ratchet. I’m a weekend warrior mechanic. Anything beats having to ratchet by hand. And at the price I like the hyper tough. I usually break the bolts with a hand ratchet then quickly undo bolts and nuts with the hyper ratchet. I can’t complain 👍🏻👍🏻
I got an aircat 1076XL running Milton fittings and no regulator. Removed and installed the lugs on my Escalade, for giggles I broke out my new hypertough impact with 4AH battery and it was able to remove all the lugs including the ones I just installed. Removed and all and used torque wrench afterwards of course. Just FYI
We need the next grinders video with the 60v dewalt
As a mechanic (2yrs) I run my power tools from hf. So far they Ben good they do the job. I baby them if they can't get a nut lose I just brake it by hand. But for the most part they work
I know they are probably hard to get your hands on in the USA but I would love to see some Parkside Tools tested. In Germany we don't have most of the value-tools you can buy over there, but we have these Parkside Tools sold at Lidl (supermarket) wich definitely have their fan base.
I got the impact driver with the 1.5ah battery to take a lugnut off
Bonus video!
In England and Europe i have noticed Parkside Tools from Lidl have a Parkside Performance line and they have a 12v brushless stubby just like this, along with an m18 high torque clone, and some other stuff.
Great video as always. I always love an honest head to head test. I do have to disagree on one thing, why would you want them to sell the impact without the battery for the same price and still charge you $25 more for the bigger battery? Isn't it better to get the first battery free? That being said I do believe the batteries are the weakness, I would love to see you testing these using batteries with a known good drain rate. I have been using the hyper tough extended ratchets and I'm pretty happy with it, sure beats cranking my hand on most things and gets into tight places. Except I did break one as you just did, I can definitely confirm you're finding that you do not want to crank really hard on these! But honestly it was good enough for most fasteners you would use this tool on. I was trying to really snug it up to make sure it wouldn't come loose, when I broke it. So far they broke loose anything I was taking off without breaking. It sure took a long time to get you interested in testing these tools! But thanks I do appreciate the great video!
You did get an explanation as to why they should make you pay for the first battery, charge up those old fashioned listening skills and watch the video again to find out.
@teeanahera8949 He clearly says make it a bare tool for the same price, and still offer the 4AH separately. I did not fail to hear is thought on using that to make it more effective. Charge up your old fashioned thinking skills and know obviously that would never happen. To effect the changes he/we all would like to see would cost them nothing ,since its programmed to cut off when it does, that would cost nothing to change, and even if they added weight to the hammer would cost them no where near the cost of the battery. Clearly the low drain rate batteries are a significant limiting factor now. Same reason for years people thought Ryobi tools were trash, when they actually were pretty good tools(Awesome considering the price) with a quality battery. Problem was they didnt make one until TTI took over, and seems hyper tough doesnt either.
Dude i have the shorter kimo, its definitely no Milwaukee but it beats the absolute hell out of being stuck with just a normal ratchet in a place you can't get much swing and dont feel like sticking 3 swivels and 2 wobbly extensions on your impact to get to. Ive used the heck out of it since i got it and its made working on things 20x easier
This raises the the question how does the hyper tough compare to a Manuel ratchet cause I use my milwaukee impact 98% of the time but occasionally I have the break out the air ratchet for 2 bolts just due to access is the money worth it to save me time over hand tools without rhe hassle of a air line
I would be curious to also see the drill and impact driver. And Skil 12v tools
Really want to see the 12v Hyper Tough cut-off tool compared to the Milwaukee and Bauer.
Im curious to see how the "Hyper Tough" impact would perform with a better, Beans version of a battery 🤔?..
You guys should test the M12 1/4 inch impact wrench and see how it compares to the 1/4 driver
Can you please do a video on right angle impact + swivel socket vs compact impact + swivel socket. Which would be more versatile in getting into tight area in automotive use? Thanks!
I got a hyper tough 3/8 impact and doesn’t seem very powerful but has taken everything off I put it on with the 2 am battery on my Corolla except the subframe bolt
two videos in the week? Nice 😎
Man I really had hopes for hypertough doing better. I wanted to believe lol
Sounds like the 3/8 impact wrench is just the 1/4 impact driver with a bigger anvil. I still want one for little stuff like running a wire wheel
You should try switching out the 18650's with the Molicel P28A that was used in the beans battery pack to see if that fixes the problem with the 2ah pack cutting out.
Can you test the Milwaukee stubby vs the Snap-on CT9038? I'd love to see the results
Any Chance you can post all of your spreadsheets? I would like to look at all the tools and your findings!
This is a great channel
Main reason I bought the HT 3/8 stubby is because none of the chinesium manufacturers have cloned a 12v variant yet. (Looking at you seesii) and yes the dewalt makes more BUT I NEED the 12v form factor. The compact nature is what I’m after. Yes a m12stubby world be great but for what I’ve thrown at it, it’s been great but that’s smaller fasteners etc. I have my mid torque for the big stuff
Have you thought about testing air drills? Just wondering if they can compare to modern cordless drills I mostly need a really high torque to turn over small engines
Not being a mech or a “tech” I can do what I need with hand tools. I watch this out of curiosity, and if I ever get stuck and need a power tool for mechanical work, I want a good one. I use power tools in my mostly refurb, work and hate wasting money on bad, cheap, tools. The last cheap tool I bought lasted around 2 hours (4 1/2” angle grinder) which of course,including taking the thing back ! cost me more than going home to get one ! Aksherly taking the thing back was a mistake,and pig headed of me, it would have been cheaper to bin it.