From my experience from currently being in trucking school, this is the best way I found to do the 90 back: Have your trailer and tractor straight and around 7-14 feet away from the boundary hole. Cut hard right and start the process of a jack-knife. While you're doing this and looking outside the driver side window watch your rear trailer tire CLOSELY. It should either be rolling backwards or standing still, if it starts rolling forwards you cut it right too long. Once your rear trailer tire starts to slow down from rolling backwards and eventually stands still you should be at around a full 90. At this point I straighten my wheel up (2 turns back and a little left) and start chasing the trailer as you said. NOW THIS IS CRUCIAL. By this point your trailer should be right at the hole, but you may be angled slightly right still so if you kept going you would cross the passenger side boundary line. At this point you would start cutting your wheel right to continue a very slight jack-knife, but ONLY enough to straighten your trailer up in the lane. Once your trailer is straight enough in the lane cut it back left and keep going (you kind of have to play with this step, but the crucial point is being gentle turning right, you don't want too much). Even if you end up crooked in the lane in a V shape, at this point you can use one pull-up and straighten back up, and this point you can just do a straight-line back. This has put me in the hole every single time, and I'd say this is the best way to learn it because every truck and trailer is different, this will work with all of them due to the signs you watch for.
@My Trucking Skills Great video, but this needs to be updated. Because here in Bethlehem, PA they’re teaching the 90 with the exception that they use cones to mark the ends of the two lanes, as well as one cone in the back of the lane that you’re going into so that you gauge how far back your bumper needs to go to be inside a 3 foot box and then stop so you avoid hitting the cone. Your method works great for this setup because you’re allowed to drive “on the line” so to speak, but not if there are cones present. Please take this into consideration for a follow up video to this, but with the addition of cones. Thank you!
Thank you for the video brother, I wish I had seen it earlier before my back today I did half a 45 and ended with a 90 this totally clears it all up for me!
@@MyTruckingSkills yes! I’m on the road alone haven’t done this in a year or so. This was a great way to refresh my memory and it literally saved my job. Thanks again!
For real, these videos are getting me through these first few months in the industry. I'm three months in, and these videos have given me so much knowledge and confidence.
SC required a 90 degree alley doc. NC only a 45... I passed both in 97 but decided to go expediting in a straight truck. Backing...much less stressful. But I did hit a concrete pole after buying a 1 ton van. It's was 3am and raining. Just tapped it. I was at Kobota in GA
Thanks for this one David. I've been playing the game quite alot in the past few days. I thhhhhhhink I have improved some ? But Im still having difficulty with the angles, maintaining the truck/trailer angle. I just can't hold the angle for very long. No matter how slow I go. I'm not giving up, but I just don't think I'm getting anywhere. At least not in any leaps and bounds you know ? I hope you still look at these old videos from last year, otherwise, you won't see my message. Anyway, take care my friend. Keep up the great work !!!
I see all the messages. Keep it up, keep playing level 6. Also, not sure what controls you are using, but I recommend using the slider, not the steering wheel control. See settings.
Perfect 👌🏻 professional But today o was at a client in a position that I can not turn the truck, blind spot, and no space to pull the truck ... it was really creepy place in California. All truckers entering from the street heading the back of trailer toward the parking lot (marche🚶♀️ back) to be able to do backing... nightmare
*Honestly, these methods are kind of wacky, and more akin to jackknifing the trailer into a spot, which is bad form. If you’re actually backing, the trailer should not exceed 30-40° in relation to the tractor. Otherwise, you’ve thrown most of your backing leverage out the window, and may even be stressing your air lines. You don’t want that.* *Try the following maneuver, it’s almost an S curve and should allow you to drop your trailer in the hole every time with ease.* *[1] Using the diagram in the video, if you want to back into spot #6 for example, approach at close to idle speed with a minimal gap between yourself and the parking spaces.* *[2] Once your drive axles are parallel to spot #5, continue rolling forward, but turn your wheel hard right, full lock... (This will set the nose of your trailer on a rapid right angle course)* *[3] Hold this hard right maneuver for a few seconds, or until your tractor is approximately 50° right of the parking spots to your left.* *[4] Quickly turn your wheel hard left, full lock. (All of this requires quick action from you, so stay on it)* *[5] Finally, monitor your trailer angle, and apply your service brakes once the trailer is about 30-40° to your tractor.* *If your speed and timing is correct, your tractor and trailer should now be at the ideal angle for backing right into spot #6. (With sufficient clearance from anything to the right of your tractor)* *And no, it’s not unsafe to back in with no pull-ups, IF your angle is correct, and you know you have clearance. But as always, do Get Out And Look if unsure.* *I hope this lengthy piece of advice makes sense to someone, because I know many struggle with it. Just know that 90° backing is not really complicated, once you master the fundamentals of steering a trailer. It’s among my favorite things in trucking and wish I had more opportunity to do it, but I’m open-deck. Have fun and be safe!* 🍺
90 degree back is something everyone should know how to do. But ive seen so many people use it when theres no reason... ive seen trailer tires destroyed from drivers doing it unnecessarily on gravel. Its intended to be used when the tractor will be 90ish degrees when at the dock to allow traffic thru or if theres no room on the side to set up for a 45 not to back into a spot at a truck stop or a shipper with plenty of room
TraRob-Eastside. If you are going to critique my video, try to be nicer. Pretend that I am right in front of you before you write your comment. I welcome critiques but I'm a friendly manor. Not every youtube videos that is not the best deserves rudeness. This is just one of around 130 backing videos that I have produced. Saying that there are better videos then this one is obvious. If just one video. You should try my game. Link's in the description on this video. Have a great day.
Am I the only one who wishes people made vids how it is best a rookie should safely back up. Seems like most vids are made how an expert backs. Usually one shot, no problems at all. Very few vids show how one gets out of trouble. 2/3 pull ups, explain how its best to solve a problem. Not that I don’t appreciate your vids, It just would be nice, .
The game will be called My Trucking Skills, but it is not ready for the public yet, still a few bugs to work out. Make sure you subscribe so you get the notification when it is ready.
It really works if you start with the end of your trailer at the boundary of the space like that? I've tried it several times and followed everything he does in this video to a T , but each time I overshot the hole by almost two whole spaces. What am I doing wrong?
Your back up is wrong as you need the trailer.needs to straight before you put in the box. Practically what you show 110% you are likely to hit the trailer on the blind side.
From my experience from currently being in trucking school, this is the best way I found to do the 90 back:
Have your trailer and tractor straight and around 7-14 feet away from the boundary hole. Cut hard right and start the process of a jack-knife. While you're doing this and looking outside the driver side window watch your rear trailer tire CLOSELY. It should either be rolling backwards or standing still, if it starts rolling forwards you cut it right too long. Once your rear trailer tire starts to slow down from rolling backwards and eventually stands still you should be at around a full 90. At this point I straighten my wheel up (2 turns back and a little left) and start chasing the trailer as you said. NOW THIS IS CRUCIAL. By this point your trailer should be right at the hole, but you may be angled slightly right still so if you kept going you would cross the passenger side boundary line. At this point you would start cutting your wheel right to continue a very slight jack-knife, but ONLY enough to straighten your trailer up in the lane. Once your trailer is straight enough in the lane cut it back left and keep going (you kind of have to play with this step, but the crucial point is being gentle turning right, you don't want too much). Even if you end up crooked in the lane in a V shape, at this point you can use one pull-up and straighten back up, and this point you can just do a straight-line back.
This has put me in the hole every single time, and I'd say this is the best way to learn it because every truck and trailer is different, this will work with all of them due to the signs you watch for.
@Eureka SevenWAVE has it gotten any easier since then? I’m taking my state test in 2 days and already stressing on the 90😅
An extreme wealth of knowledge , which is priceless for becoming a parking/back-up guru! Another great vid MTS
@My Trucking Skills Great video, but this needs to be updated. Because here in Bethlehem, PA they’re teaching the 90 with the exception that they use cones to mark the ends of the two lanes, as well as one cone in the back of the lane that you’re going into so that you gauge how far back your bumper needs to go to be inside a 3 foot box and then stop so you avoid hitting the cone. Your method works great for this setup because you’re allowed to drive “on the line” so to speak, but not if there are cones present. Please take this into consideration for a follow up video to this, but with the addition of cones. Thank you!
Thank you for the video brother, I wish I had seen it earlier before my back today I did half a 45 and ended with a 90 this totally clears it all up for me!
I want to let you know man THANKS you’re my HERO !!!!!
Cheers!!! Did I save you from a burning building? Lol, I'm more than happy to help
@@MyTruckingSkills yes! I’m on the road alone haven’t done this in a year or so. This was a great way to refresh my memory and it literally saved my job. Thanks again!
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Great video bro you help me out alot
For real, these videos are getting me through these first few months in the industry. I'm three months in, and these videos have given me so much knowledge and confidence.
@@BrownHawk84 you are not alone bro im in the same boat
@@manny55 Right on. We'll keep on keeping on. Before long, we'll be ol' pros!
@@BrownHawk84 yup 💪🏼
SC required a 90 degree alley doc. NC only a 45... I passed both in 97 but decided to go expediting in a straight truck. Backing...much less stressful. But I did hit a concrete pole after buying a 1 ton van. It's was 3am and raining. Just tapped it. I was at Kobota in GA
In '97 i was in 7th grade in Shoshoni, WY! Irrelevant, i know.
I'm sure you've got the skills to pay the bills.
NC requires a 90" to pass CDL school.
Great that 90 would help out Saturday
Thanks for this one David. I've been playing the game quite alot in the past few days. I thhhhhhhink I have improved some ? But Im still having difficulty with the angles, maintaining the truck/trailer angle. I just can't hold the angle for very long. No matter how slow I go. I'm not giving up, but I just don't think I'm getting anywhere. At least not in any leaps and bounds you know ?
I hope you still look at these old videos from last year, otherwise, you won't see my message. Anyway, take care my friend. Keep up the great work !!!
I see all the messages. Keep it up, keep playing level 6. Also, not sure what controls you are using, but I recommend using the slider, not the steering wheel control. See settings.
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Another great video.
Very good 👍
Thank you man you are the best
Perfect 👌🏻 professional
But today o was at a client in a position that I can not turn the truck, blind spot, and no space to pull the truck ... it was really creepy place in California. All truckers entering from the street heading the back of trailer toward the parking lot (marche🚶♀️ back) to be able to do backing... nightmare
*Honestly, these methods are kind of wacky, and more akin to jackknifing the trailer into a spot, which is bad form. If you’re actually backing, the trailer should not exceed 30-40° in relation to the tractor. Otherwise, you’ve thrown most of your backing leverage out the window, and may even be stressing your air lines. You don’t want that.*
*Try the following maneuver, it’s almost an S curve and should allow you to drop your trailer in the hole every time with ease.*
*[1] Using the diagram in the video, if you want to back into spot #6 for example, approach at close to idle speed with a minimal gap between yourself and the parking spaces.*
*[2] Once your drive axles are parallel to spot #5, continue rolling forward, but turn your wheel hard right, full lock... (This will set the nose of your trailer on a rapid right angle course)*
*[3] Hold this hard right maneuver for a few seconds, or until your tractor is approximately 50° right of the parking spots to your left.*
*[4] Quickly turn your wheel hard left, full lock. (All of this requires quick action from you, so stay on it)*
*[5] Finally, monitor your trailer angle, and apply your service brakes once the trailer is about 30-40° to your tractor.*
*If your speed and timing is correct, your tractor and trailer should now be at the ideal angle for backing right into spot #6. (With sufficient clearance from anything to the right of your tractor)*
*And no, it’s not unsafe to back in with no pull-ups, IF your angle is correct, and you know you have clearance. But as always, do Get Out And Look if unsure.*
*I hope this lengthy piece of advice makes sense to someone, because I know many struggle with it. Just know that 90° backing is not really complicated, once you master the fundamentals of steering a trailer. It’s among my favorite things in trucking and wish I had more opportunity to do it, but I’m open-deck. Have fun and be safe!* 🍺
90 degree back is something everyone should know how to do. But ive seen so many people use it when theres no reason... ive seen trailer tires destroyed from drivers doing it unnecessarily on gravel. Its intended to be used when the tractor will be 90ish degrees when at the dock to allow traffic thru or if theres no room on the side to set up for a 45 not to back into a spot at a truck stop or a shipper with plenty of room
This video is trash... theres much better instructional videos
TraRob-Eastside.
If you are going to critique my video, try to be nicer. Pretend that I am right in front of you before you write your comment. I welcome critiques but I'm a friendly manor. Not every youtube videos that is not the best deserves rudeness. This is just one of around 130 backing videos that I have produced. Saying that there are better videos then this one is obvious. If just one video. You should try my game. Link's in the description on this video. Have a great day.
Well I downloaded my little app just to do that backing. Not sure if they have it on laptop 💻
Nice video
Done it again 🤗🚛💨
Great video
The tandems are all the way to the rear in this demo - that’ll effect the maneuver.
Nice video tutorials..
Can you please tell me what simulator game you use for your useful videos.
its actually called My trucking Skills, you can get it on iOS, Andriod and for the PC at mytruckingskills.com/games
@@MyTruckingSkills thanks pall
People who prefer to do 90s do not own the trailers and don’t pay for trailer tires!🤫
thanks
2:18 that's how super truckers would back up
Am I the only one who wishes people made vids how it is best a rookie should safely back up. Seems like most vids are made how an expert backs. Usually one shot, no problems at all.
Very few vids show how one gets out of trouble. 2/3 pull ups, explain how its best to solve a problem.
Not that I don’t appreciate your vids,
It just would be nice, .
It's not the angle of the dangle... it's the motion of the ocean.
Thanks this helped me alot. Bless u
Is your game ready for purchase yet? I have an android phone
The game will be called My Trucking Skills, but it is not ready for the public yet, still a few bugs to work out. Make sure you subscribe so you get the notification when it is ready.
This app is unrealistic, the turns does not match what a real trailer would do.
Yes it does. I've compared it to footage from a drone.
@@MyTruckingSkills your knowledge plus VR shall change the world)
They count pull forwards on CDL exam.
Yes they can, they just have a limited number of pull-ups.
You are disgustingly good, ... haha. Thank you! I need to master this, it is my biggest concern. What do you recommend how Thank you1
It really works if you start with the end of your trailer at the boundary of the space like that? I've tried it several times and followed everything he does in this video to a T , but each time I overshot the hole by almost two whole spaces. What am I doing wrong?
Hi thanks for your video
If we have 3 axels what is the best distance?
Are you able to slide them?
gooooooooooooool
I need study of backing parking how to learn
Go to the Schneider
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I’m having difficulty understanding the difference between the previous Alley, dock videos, and this 90° back when the constraints are all the same…
Where are u from bro , ur accent quiet unique
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Where can i find this game??
Download My Trucking Skills
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Been driving over a year and still can’t get this 90.
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I have no idea on how to play this I’m very confused😪 and my road test is tomorrow
If you press on the RUclips logo on the top left of the screen on every level, it will take you to a video of me explaining that level.
1:49 tell this to my school 🙄
13’ out 2’ forward
How can I get your game?
There are links in the description of this video
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Great video I'm backing I'm still trying to get used to the backing controls in your game any suggestions
Keep playing level 6 in normal campaign until you don't even have to think about it. Use the slider, not the steering wheel or buttons.
Your back up is wrong as you need the trailer.needs to straight before you put in the box.
Practically what you show 110% you are likely to hit the trailer on the blind side.
How long have you been driving?
I don't understand why u are going over the line,u should assume u don't have all the space, second and third,is a fail.i stand to be corrected
Is this an American doing a Cork accent? .... lol
Wow, got ear!!! I spent the first 20 years in cork, the last 23 years in the US. I'm glad I haven't completely lost the accent.
@@MyTruckingSkills not even close and I'm from galway. Bet it comes out more with those blind backs! Great videos well done
You were blind half the time