Extra Hard Back because Axles were to the rear of trailer.
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This is to demonstrate that having your axles to the rear of the trailer can really hurt you when trying to maneuver around a tight area.
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I'd either move on to a different stop, or slide my tandems. Never in a billion years would I willingly subject myself to that level of torture
@LoveThemDames if the tandems were slid to the front the back of trailer would have clipped the cab of truck on right.
@@terrydavis6132 only if you do it exactly how this guy did it. if you swing hard right and line up with the cabs on the other side first, THEN pull up straight, its much easier.
Slide tandems as far forward as they will go, slide your fifth wheel as far forward as it will go and get a ground guide.
If no ground guide is available, be ready to get out and check after every foot of travel. Be mindful of your wind fairing!
After 14 years of driving.. I changed careers because of crap like this. I can't believe they made a game about it! Road rage comes from stuff like this!
Sometimes you legitimately do it for a challenge. I've had guys tell me they can't do it. I hop in and just want to try. I've yet to have to give up. These angles are built with it being possible.
Exactly
Mad respect for the truckers, this much stress, and always in a hurry. Thank you all for what you do, your craft is severely under appreciated.
Fortunately, most truck stops are nowhere near this bad. Though, unfortunately, some are even worse, because not all trucks back in far enough, so some spots may be actually impossible to back into.
@@frakis2771 as a new trucker my issue is just not wanting to back in and out and GOALing for 20 minutes while there's a line of 3 trucks trying to get past you in one direction and 5 trucks waiting to get past you in the other direction. Feelsbadman. And everyone knows all our clocks are ticking
@@sasacc322 Agreed. That's why, even if you're skilled enough, I'd still opt out and go somewhere else.
Tell you drive in the left passing lane. Then ur a clown
he's playing a flash game.
Now do this in a truckstop at midnight in the rain using your mirrors with 6 trucks waiting on you to get the F out of their way and I'll be truly impressed.
It's 1 a.m., this is your third truck stop you've driven through to find a spot, you've driven 650 miles today......in the rain, and it's still raining. Ready set GO!!
Now once you have parked, you can't sleep because you are petrified of the guy next to your truck ripping your hood off, 😂. Excellent vid.
Yep. That's way you back A little farther back .
Got that right, ask me how I know, happened to me 2 times🤪🤪🤪
Or you are just too stressed over the thought of having to get out of the spot in the morning!!😂😂😂
@@dannyc1657 and then when you wake up they would be nobody around you and it would feel like heaven
At tight spots like this you should always take the extra minute to slide tandems and bump the curb. If everyone did that, maybe the truckstop wouldn't be so tight.
Watching this simulation just raised my MAD RESPECT for All Good Truckers!
Irl you can't se as many you can se here from above also
Much difficult in real life. Backing up by itself is much much difficult because the trail will move freely.
As a former driver, I can honestly attest that doing this in an emulation without people trying to drive through and from a bird's eye view, without having to shift is super easy compared to trying to attempt this in real life, even with fellow driver spotters.
Obviously you never used a drone to park before....
@@jordan-H0wdyH0Are you okay man? You seem on edge. Even with a drone this particular parking job would be very difficult. People would be walking to and from the truck stop and other drivers would be looking for spots. I can't tell you how many eyes would be staring at you if you made this attempt in real life. It would be supremely impressive to get that spot in under 10 minutes. I really don't think you've even driven a tractor trailer so I'd love to see you use a drone and park before other people lost patience with you.
@@Alex-Defatte that commenter is just breaking your balls, don’t worry about it. In fact, I almost wonder the same thing, like if maybe in the future a driver could utilize some kind of automatic drone as a spotter, for times when there’s not another person there to help guide you. Or at least, if I was a driver I’d make some kind of camera rig to attach to the rear corners so I could see on a monitor how close I am from different angles, also nice to see on the highway the cars behind me or just get a different angle of the load I’m carrying, making sure everything’s good. I’ve obviously never driven a semi, but I had a big RV for a few years and cameras made life much easier.
@@Alex-Defatte You're just to old to understand...
Duh
I was taught to back up till it sounds expensive, then go a foot more 😂
This made me laugh😂😂😂
LMFAO😭
🤣🤣
Same!!
Swift? You there?
I don't know why this was recommended, but I enjoyed every minute of it.
Neither did I and I got recommended this.. mad skills for the OP however this shit and more is why I stay B Class and stick with my motorcoaches at best
I still get nervous parking in a car sometimes, so much respect to all truck drivers, you are amazing!
had to do something similar to get my boat out of storage recently and it was fucking hell. ended up pressed up against the bus next to me, and luckily the owner of the van on the other side was on island and came after like an hour to move his van
Dude i love seein you here awesome
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Honestly I'd rather park at a ramp than having to deal with tight craphole trucks stops like this.
This is exactly how the truckstop I park at every weekend is. Except the lines are worn away and nobody parks far enough back in their spot.
That’s why I hate parking at truck stops from the bottom of my heart( with some exceptions) , no white or yellow lanes, getting morning surprises such as broken and scratched bumpers, broken turn lights and signals, ripped trailer walls , etc, 20 mins of multiple tries , all this mess just not worth my time, especially if it’s past 7pm
@@BackseatStudios ya what's up with these idiots not backing all the way in! See it everywhere I go now
I’d look for a rest area or open lot rather then risk damage to other people’s equipment backing into a cramped truck stop…. Unless I can get in there before 5pm and I park as far in the back as I can so I don’t get hit as well 👍
Yeah why take chances, damages are real, mistakes can definitely happen, I’d much rather take those situations of backing into a questionable spot out of the equation all together.
man id just pull forward, slide my tandems forward, and get out normal and roll em back when im out, this is a headache... great job as always though dude
Yes, that is the correct answer.
First thing that went through my mind when he said the tandems were all the way back
The correct answer is you don't pull a trailer with the tandems all the way back period
With my trailer my tandems can't move forward because of the lift Axle. Don't park in a spot you can't easily get out of is the correct answer.
Non trucker here, what does this mean? You can move the axels on a trailer?
When I was OTR(oilfield for 12 years now), I had sliding axles on my refer. Disengaging the pins and using the sliders to help pivot in & out of situations like this was a HUGE time saver.
Mr. Becker, is that you? Anyway, thanks for the tip
I once witnessed a driver jackknife his way into a customer's driveway. He did it by pointing his nose at an acute angle to his trailer then simply going back and forth while turning the wheel back and forth. Still one of the coolest maneuvers I've seen first hand. That guy is a legend because he didn't even need me to get out and spot him or anything; he just did it like he did it every day.
I saw the most insane thing on the Hana Highway once. It was a DOUBLE trailer Semi hauling ass around 40 miles per hour up that road. Anyone who has ever driven it (over 600 hairpin turns, narrow bridges, sheer cliff drops) know how utterly insane and impressive such a feat is.
I really want to see you do this with mirrors and getting out alone. Not sure how many trucks these days have aerial drones.
Not to mention after doing a full 14 hr day in the snow
Glad you said this.
Haha, I suppose that’s a fair comment. But, it’s still helpful to see the mechanics of these moves in action.
You may be up to something.
Trucks with aerial drones to help maneuver is a great idea !!j
Bro you mind basically sees it this way anyways. Drive long enough and you can see your entire truck without needing to get out.
Non trucking enthusiast here, YT algorithm sent me here.
I'm still in disbelief, not only at what you pulled off, but also that this was even possible at all.
How close together can the rows get before this becomes impossible... or is this the extent of that limit? The mathematician within me must know!
The sky's the limit
The algorithm brought me here as well but did not disappoint
Hiya. Im a trucker. It depends. If there's enough room for a straight back, rather than turning to back in, they can be close enough for truck mirrors to barely fit. Depending on how all trucks park, they can get a little tighter than this if you use some tricks, such sliding tandems mid-back to control how much tail swing you have, or disconnecting and reconnecting to sharpely turn the trailer without wiggling it back and forth.
But also, even though tighter spots than this are possible, as a trucker, I would refuse to even attempt this if I were simply parking for the day. Although I have the skill, as I've backed into worse for shipper/receiver docks, so I had no choice, but then you worry about less skilled drivers hitting you. So I always park in spaces that's easy for other truckers to park next to me.
@Frakis 2 Great point. You either pull out and risk it. Or wait for your neighbors to do it first in hopes they're more skilled than you.
It's more improbable
And we should also keep in mind that truckers don't have a view from the above, but they still perfectly fit in places like this. Pure professionals, mad respect to them
Lots of drivers purposely park not centered but close to the right line. Attempting to create more space when it's time to pull out at O'dark 30. That make getting into those spaces impossible. Pass any truck stop at night ,you'll see empty parking spaces, but trucks lined up on nearby ramps .Sometimes you just gotta wake up your neighbor and ask them to move, which they usually do after initially losing their cool . It's a good night when you can park in an end spot so you can pull straight out.
Big props to truckers. Seems extremely difficult from a top view. I could not imagine what it is like being in the drivers seat!
Definitely need some help spotting, completely blind to the right side.
its hard. but this video is exaggerated for obvious reasons. typical truckstops have a lot more room to work with. but local work does get tight sometimes, dealing with impatient drivers, pedestrians, bikes, thats probably the hardest part of the job.
You get suck** while driving, its awesome
You have no idea! That's why most truckers are called professional Truckers! Tho some states will put anybody behind the wheel.
as a trucker in UK for close to 30yrs. that is nice reversing. having an overhead view is awesome. trying to visualise every part while backing it in or driving out is the complex part.
wonder if adding a camera drone to your arsenal would be a good investment lol 😂
@@trophyscars7364 my thought exactly
Sliding your tandems forward does make maneuvering into a spot easier...but very IMPORTANT to note...you have several feet of trailer behind your tandems now and you have to take into account for if you dont you will back into the truck on your blind side backing in..or slap the truck on your blindside pullling out due to so much of your trailer hanging over past your trailer axles.👍😀
Today I learned you can adjust the position of the axles on a semi trailer for weight compliance and maneuvering. I had no clue this was even possible and just assumed every trailer had fixed positioning for them. Thank you for teaching me something new!
You have to inchworm your way out no matter what, but changing your tandem position absolutely affects how the trailer maneuvers. Moving your tandems up decreases off tracking and increases trailer swing, but you don't have to move your tandems all the way up or back.
A European trailer has that overhang and 3 axles which makes turning easy in a thight spot but the rear and can swing out a lot. The reason also between the first and third axle, it pivotes a bit when turning cause it pushes the tires in the different direction you turn
That was nerve-racking. Good job.
This kind of skill is something that older truckers have in spades. I once watched a trucker that was about 70 years old literally blast back up his truck to a difficult dock at a warehouse, I once worked at decades ago. I told the guy that too. He just looked at me and smiled. He knew he was good and didn't need to prove anything to anyone. Much respect to all talented truckers. Only a fool thinks driving an 18-wheeler is easy. We got alot of fools in the government making trucking regulations. My sympathies to the truckers who have to deal with this madness.
Already I do it many times
im not a truck driver yet haha, but i heard from a truck driver using a mini drone for a over head view of your truck will help with parking in spaces like these
Congrats for all the improvements and update you made to the game and your way of teaching, very good visual set up and a successful video like always 👍 👍 👍 😊
I'm so glad you acknowledged the airline factor. The whole time I was watching this I was shouting at my tv, "Dude, you're gonna rip out your pigtail and air lines!" 🤣
holy crap, well done! i feel like trukers are the masters of angleing and dimensons.
this reminds me of the loves over by grand junction. Literally the tiniest bit of space I have seen at a truck stop for parking. One time I had to go pull into a spot, then blind back out of it into the one behind it since there was no room even for a 45-45 turn. There were some nice drivers nearby who helped me (still super thankful for that), but still super stressful. I think with enough practice I probably could have gotten it in, but at the time, it was the only way I saw since it was late at night with no other spots available. I just got lucky with the placement.
He makes it look easy cuz he has the view from the top. But in a real world scenario you would have to use GOAL many times or a spotter. Also I’m sure he would’ve taken out the mirrors on the hood. 😂
You are not wrong with anything you just said. But I would never attempt it.
I drove for a moving company. We had stickers on the mirrors with GOAL. Wed always have to get out and look, because the damned sticker was blocking what we'd need to see 😂
I am an old timer and I still use GOAL.
I'm a retired truck driver and did a lot of maneuvering with trailers.
Never realized that this is much easier to learn in a simulation.
You have a direct overview that you can translate into what you see in your mirrors.
And always used mirrors solely, only looked outside for some oversight.
"I think... That did something, what it did... Is hard to explain" LOL Man, I laughed so hard watching this. Amazing haha, thank you!
GEEEEZ David, again I got the "heebie-geebies" just watching this video. NO WAYYYY I would attempt to even THINK about trying to get in a spot like that. And no, I don't want a challenge like that. Not when I know it would end up with me losing my license lol. nope nope nope
Not afraid to admit my skill set is solar systems away from being that good, so there's that
youd never see my attempt that either
Being a truck driver I’ve been in this type of situation all the time when driving the Pacific Northwest. When pulling out you are going to have to slide your axles period. And hopefully you can J hook it coming out the first time. Now backing in you need to first slide your axles all the way to the rear. Then on your approach you need to be as close as you can to the parked trucks front end. Then as you back up just as your rear axle on your trailer is on the passenger side corner of the parked trucks front bumper you jack Knife your rig so you are spinning the trailer tires on a dime on the ground. What this simulator does not show is the truck-trailer leaning out at the top and in at the bottom of the trailer. The tractor is also tilting because out there the lots are sloped big time for rain water run off. I hate doing this procedure because it’s extremely hard on the equipment and tires. It tears up the lot, puts flat spots on the tires. It puts abnormal strain on the trailer rear axle slider assembly to the point it’s extremely hard to slide your axles or you can’t slide them at all.
Great advices, ill try it with my truck. Greetings from UK!
This raised my resting heart beat and my anxiety level 🤣
You're a legend and a tad insane for this (in the best possible way). 😂 Just found out about the app a couple days ago and i'm having a hard time putting it down. The only way it could be better is if I had a steering wheel like yours hooked up. Thanks for all the content, keep it up! 👍
What app!?!
Links are in the description for PC, Android, and Apple IOS users
I was in this situation once, and it was taking a long time.
Other trucks were waiting to get through, so I just gave up, and parked in a gravel lot across from the Truck Stop.
I'm with you on that!
Smart move. At first I wanted to challenge myself and get into tight spots. Eventually I stopped caring if I could get in a tight spot or not and would just find the easiest way.
Now I drive terminal trucks around a port. Stress 0, pay 100.
😮😮Awesome skill. I wish all drivers had your knowledge. I finally got my residential street closed to big trucks after the 4th trucker got stuck in my lawn trying to make a tight left hand turn in the last few years. (I never knew why trucker’s GPS was using our neighborhood as a shortcut )
I have applied this in real life with a 2019 Mack anthem sleeper truck and a 53' trailer. It is very common to strike the truck on you blind side if your tandems are forward since you are pivoting on your axles. I have learned sliding them to rear makes the trailer more predictable and I am not getting out constantly to check my blind side to make sure I am not taking anyone's mirrors off.
I just picked up a load doing just exactly this at Nestle Purina in Denver. They don’t want you to slide your tandems in the parking lot so it took forever to inch out of there! I made it but it was a pain for sure!
What happens if you slide your tandems in the parking lot anyway?
@@tstivers1990 I don’t know but I pick up a lot from Nestle Purina in Denver so I don’t want to get blackballed from there. And the hostlers are real bad about moving trailers for drivers, I only asked once and the guy was so rude I never tried it again🤬😡
I slide em anyway I pu from here as well they can't stop me from sliding my tandems to not damge my equipment
Excellent job! Top-down view makes it seem so much easier than POV is from the driver's seat with only mirrors. I had trouble backing my boat in the drive many years ago until my Truck driving neighbor showed me the hand on the bottom of the wheel trick. I'm like a pro now. Lots of practice but knowing the tricks make all the difference! 🖖🏼😎🤙🏼
Hand on the bottom of the wheel?
@@Avvy89 ''Use the tip mentioned above, placing your hand at the bottom of the steering wheel. Whichever way your hand moves, that's the direction the trailer will go.''
I found this while searching for this tip.
Well that was amazing. No wonder i see so many banged up trucks.
Trucking is a work of unlimited patients with strong stamina .
There is a huge difference between training drivers for a few weeks versus a few months. The only thing I see that annoys me is seeing all those other trucks not backed all the way in their spaces. 1 foot or a few inches can mean sooo much. For me as a mechanic things can be measured in 0.03.
Once you get enough experience. Backing up in tight area's are a breeze. Best trick is to slide your trailer axles ahead. Makes the turning alot easier backing into a door with tight loading doors
The algorithm just brought me here. Unbelievable stuff. So many workers the general public takes for granted. Amazing skills.
Thats what its like every time with a flatbed. It can really suck sometimes and most reefer drivers just dont get why it can take us longer to back into tighter spots
Your trailer is only 48 most of the time. That extra 7ft on ours makes a big difference
If it's a spread it's tough though
actually watching this was really interesting for me because my mom was a semi truck driver cross country for pharma products before the murder-suicide that happened and so seeing this made me realize quite how hard it is at times driving a semi truck
The what????
Good to see you again.
Dude youre out of your mind :O
Very skillful!
I'd be getting out several times checking that blind spot
I get stressed out backing in a trailer; people are so impatient. Anxiety is 100% watching you.
Thank you sir!
Thanks for the video
Spatial reasoning genius. ❤
now this is a niche. love it. very nice expertise you got there.
You hit a few bumpers🤣🤣🤣
I've had a turn to get out of a local business that was similar to trying to pull out of one of these spaces. Just after I first passed my licence aswell. This job almost broke me til I realised that I was actually pushing my back wheels out on the trailer and giving myself a better angle to get out. Must have taken me about 25 shunts in and out of the road around cars and lamp posts in a narrow street. It was a good 25 mins of hell but the best learning experience.
I used to do this for a living. My first job driving trucks as a "Rangerer". I worked at a terminal and took the trailers and parked them. Made me good at backing into tightspaces before I started driving along the road. The hardest ones where trailers with turnable rear wheels when using terberg loading machines that couldnt put the turnable axle in locked position. Still we did it with some hazzle and got it in there, whith the rear axle living its own life. Was a lot of back and forth
This was fun to watch and do in real life, a lot more intense when every other driver around you just happens to be awake and in the front seat.
Can't believe I just watched a guy pull out a truck that has nothing to do with my life, yet I still thoroughly enjoyed it! 😅👍
your son is a lovely lad, my YT brought me here. good vids!
Skills? Really? This guy is marvellous 👍 No doubt.
Mad skills!
This guy is a backing wizard
Idk how I ended up here, but thank you! That’s very interesting to watch.
You have a great working knowledge of the theory of truck parking. Very different in real life without a birds eye view. You did an excellent job utilizing the tools you have though and doing it in real life you should always use those tools as well. I've been driving for 20 years and consider myself an excellent driver in all aspects. One thing that I'm not afraid to do that many truck drivers are is stop, put my parking brakes on get out and actually walk around the truck. Guess what, I've never hit anything in 20 years. Oh and it's called a fairing on the back of the cab. Excellent job getting out and backing it in.
3:30 Are you saying that you have 20 years of driving experience and you're not mentioning the wear and tear on the tires, the axles, the bearings, and everything involved when trying to exit the parking lot?
@DearMarcel I worked local for 12 years delivering to Grocery Stores sometimes with 6 drops in a day, plus truck stops and back to the Warehouse. Trucks and trailers are built to handle this kind of thing, it happens all the time. There is less wear and tear the further the axles are back. Not legal with a 53' trailer in North America except for a couple places though.
awesome , at last i met a real teacher to get train through his videos.
What a legend
Yeah i started driving 2 years ago and my second drop solo was at a place that had about this much room. Luckily i had my tandems forward but it was a nightmare with so little experience. Might have taken me like 20 minutes to get it in but i managed it without hitting anything.
Though I like to say thank you it didn't realize with a hard enough jack knife you could push the trailer back even though you are going forward. That is going to help me out a lot if i ever find myself in a tight spot.
Nice work done, masterpieces.
Lol, that's fun. I drove forklift for a company that built semi trailers and one of my jobs was to stage finished trailers in the yard. Thank goodness they were mostly flat decks that I could see over! Lol!
That'll really step up my game in American Truck Simulator! Thanks!
That was awesome.
With tandems all the way back you want to hug to heck out of objects next to the trailer into the docking lane. Go in shallow and close. You lose a lot of maneuver room at the front end of your tractor. Ideal setup for those docking lanes where you have decent room to work with between the side objects.
With tandems all the way to the front you want to go in as far off as you can from the docking lane and have your trailer angled into the lane before sinking it in. It's all about the tail swings, so aligning the trailer to the lane before going deep is ideal. You want to use this setup if you have limited head room in front of the docking lane to work with.
After backing trailers of various sizes and types and configurations (tandems to the front; or tandems to the back) for awhile you start develop an almost intuitive feel for how the trailer will move for you. In the end, you can be shown how to back a trailer but it's really all about practice to make it second nature to you.
Thanks you helped me a lot!
I had to do this is southern Cali over the summer. Just full send it and believe in yourself 🤣
THIS GAVE ME MAD ANXIETY NICE
That was amazing, great skill
That was impresive even tho its a top view :P
Keep On Truckin!!
Damn my anxiety kicking in haha nice driving
I rarely think about how challenging this it would be to drive such a large vehicle. This video randomly shows up on my feed a blows my mind. I would not be able to pull this off.
excellent
As somebody who used to be a semi-truck driver this was fun to watch.
Am I trucker? No. Did I still find this video riveting? Absolutely 😂
Great content man!
Thank you brother. I’m still fight this at the drops.
Wow what an interesting driving skills!!!
This actually made me nervous 😬
Amazing skils😍😍😍
I needed this video about a week ago I'm a flatbed driver and have only been driving cdl for a little over 6 months and I had to blindside allydock up a ramp into the warehouse with about as much room as you had here and i couldn't do it lol I said screw it and told them to offload me outside
10/10 would watch again
Watching this from the sleeper of my freightliner. Hell on this.
I didn't know manouvering a big truck is so engaging😮
4h da manhã e eu não faço ideia de como parei aqui 😂😂 mas curti o vídeo.
I could watch this all day
I can’t believe I watched an entire video on how to get out of and pull into a truck parking spot.
That was really interesting.
As an ex-tractor driver this is very entertaining, I love it, but you will never get into a situation like this. You gave me something I can do while sitting home. Looks like fun.
Wow wow wow, good job
I’ve never driven a trailer as such and probably never will but this video was still cool
This is like science fiction to me. Truckers are amazingly skilled to be doing those things.