How to reverse a B-Double (DDT)
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2015
- A lot of MC operators drive for years before fully understanding how to reverse a B Double, save some time by learning some tips on how to do it properly from on of our senior trainers Alan Rutland who currently holds over 55 years experience and counting!
Tips on reversing a B-double from the man himself, Alan Rutland
I have received a few messages about some information contained in Alan's chat, so thought I would clarify for you.
1. Alan is being cheeky with his statistics on how many B double drivers can reverse, we understand there are lots of very talented B double drivers out there.
2. When discussing on how to learn to reverse- what Alan is trying to say is you can't learn how to reverse ONLY by driving them, you also need to understand how to position your trailers correctly, for some this can be done after much driving practice, for others this can be done quickly by using aids such as the toy technique discussed.
3. Everyone who wishes to complete their MC Licence upgrade must successfully demonstrate reversing techniques by PRACTICALLY reversing a B double for more than 70 meters in a straight line.
4. For information on course content and prices feel free to visit our website at www.ddtindustries.com.au
" Don't drive above your own ability. If you can see you can't do it- Just don't do it! " Spot on boss! - Absolutely dead on.I Love it
they are gonna list a name of guys who have done it and DEMAND to get the job done
That carpet is my childhood
Mine was bigger.
Yep, i had the same one...
Yep, mine, too. Played hours on this thing. No trouble reversing doubles, or better say, the European Turntable Trailers. Same story, two pivot points, just a different structure.
Mine was bigger but still
Same
Him suggesting drivers carry around a toy was brilliant. Always great to take on a safe challenge every now and then. The greatest advice was at the end. DON'T DRIVE ABOVE YOUR ABILITY.
As a driver, it’s not a bad idea. I’ve been in very stressful situations where I needed a plan
That piece of advice ("Don't drive above your ability") is applicable to a *lot* more than just truck driving.
@@__Razerto a BMW driver that means stay off the roads.
I am a beginner, first thing I did was to buy a toy and download a simulator. Its been very helpful, I got my CDL license. Now for actual driving, will cay my toy.
Huge respect to the guys and gals who drive these B-Double's. Most car drivers have difficulties maneuvering 4 wheels in a straight line, never mind reverse. Truckies are the lifeblood of commerce .. give them plenty of room when you're driving, and put yourself in their shoes when things get tight. Cheers from Melbourne.
Could not agree more !!
Could not agree less!!
Thank you ✊🏾
No worries mate
Also pay them well, don't exploit them and let them rest often, after all, the freight and rig they're responsible for cost a small fortune.
This guy must have been the hero of the neighborhood sand box as a kid !
I had so many toy trucks as a kid
Have been? dude, this guys is still the king of the sand box. look at the number of toys he has.
I don't even drive truck, why am I here? xD
lmao me too but you never know when this comes in handy :P
Because knowledge is power
because trucks are cool
The same concept works with trailers such as boat trailers.
same ere, was watching ice road truckers and the drivers all talk about the importance of not missing a gear on slopes so I looked up hgv gear changing and noticed the video of some bloke playing with toy lorries - at first I thought he was a big kid but soon realized what a genius he is with this simple demonstration - I'd love to have a go tho
I once had to drive all the way around the world because I couldn't figure out how to back up
MegaJohnhammond Were you the original driver for the old country song, "give me fourty acres and I'll turn this thing around!". There has been times I have heard that old song in my mind as someone with no truck driving ability is telling me where they want me to get my rig into. "Well my neighbor got his pickup truck in there once several years ago!"
Had the same problem it's very annoying when it happens 🤬
I know the feeling
Liar, the earth is flat
Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around.
I give this teacher best respect. He just gave the best advice at the end! Don't overextend yourself or your skills and you'll be fine.
this is a good video. I currently pull a B train in Canada and trucking over the road for 15 years, this is how it is done when reversing. Anyone interested in learning the basic fundamentals should watch this and pay attention to the advise and detail this excellent instructor gives. If I can add anything it would be to do everything as slowly as possible and Never be in a hurry to reverse B train. 50 % of the time I have to reverse into or out of a facility to load or unload. You have to know the fundamentals .You have to have a plan of attack .Take your time and you will be a pro.
This guy is one of the best instructors I have ever heard - brilliant video. Almost makes me want to go and get my MC licence all over again.
Dont do it!...Its our time to relax...drink beers...and laugh at others mistakes...hehe
So funny. The dry humour of a blokey Aussie truckie teaching a novice. Very enjoyable and informative -- even for someone (me) who's never driven any truck!
This is so helpful even for the ets2/ats, truck simulators which recently introduced doubles. Thanks a lot for sharing!
That's why I'm watching it haha
me2
me3 lol
We have doubles now?! Been waiting for years! Time to fire it back up :D
"It might take you years to master" and all this time I thought it took only a little effort to learn something
I think the reason so many drivers can't do it is because they only reverse as a last resort. It's really not that hard to back them up accurately, but it does take some practice. If you're always avoiding it at all costs, then you'll never get good at it.
Agreed… Practice makes one better! Take a moment to ‘think it through’ & formulate a plan! Have Confidence in yourself!
I learned 90% of my reversing skills from Grand Theft Auto. I played that for at least 2 years before I got my drivers license and was able to back up trucks and trailers with inches to spare on each side the same day. People don't believe me, but you learn a lot from the dynamics of it in a game or with a toy. You learn the physics of torque and the way to turn, correcting and visualizing.
TheCoolStuffHD thank you. You just proved im not the only one. I played gta before i got my cdl and now im the youngest guy (20) to be on the heavy haul team with the texas shell oil company. Just goes to show school go nothing on video games. Hell i learned more with games then school.
That's awesome! Congrats!
It was always my favorite thing to do was to find the semi trucks with trailers and just simulate scenarios. At least I'm not the only one.
TheCoolStuffHD eye coordination, thanks to video games I can buck up easily even from my blind side.
I guess I just have to see the spot take a mental picture and the rest is just eye coordination. I really never had a problem backing up. I drive sleeper too so I don't get that luxury window to look back lol
You guys should look into euro truck sim or American truck sim, I actually learned a ton about backing trailers by playing, I plan on getting my CDL next yesr
Lol it's like you can just scan the environment and than magic happens haha.
I'm not a RL trucker. Just a trucking enthusiast and an e-trucker, but my, this explanation was worth a million dollars.
Great idea and good video about this!! I learned how to back trailers with my 1983 wired-remote control toy semi tractor trailer. At 18, I drove semis to deliver equipment, and was good at it because I could "see it in my mind" like the man says in the video. You have to envision what you're trying to do. By the time I was in my 20's, I was excellent at it and became an instructor. I'd recommend to people to practice backing up a trailer in an empty parking lot behind a car or SUV using only their mirrors (looking forward). People never practice. They wait until they're hooked up and trying to back a boat down the ramp and get crossed up all over the place. Practice. Goto a parking lot and practice backing up around it until you can back into a parking spot with ease. Growing up around trucks, I always heard that "the longer the trailer, and the shorter the pull vehicle wheelbase, the easier it is to back a trailer." So true. If you can master backing a tow dolly trailer behind a car, truck, or suv, you'll easily transition to semis. If the distance from the rear axle to the front axle of the car, pickup, or SUV (pull vehicle) is greater than the distance from the rear axle of the pull vehicle to the trailer axle, then it's really hard to back it up. Conversely, if the distance from the rear axle of the pull vehicle to its front axle is SHORTER than the distance from the rear axle of the pull vehicle to the trailer axle (or mid point between multiple axles), like a semi truck, than its MUCH easier to control backing it up. From the driver seat, if you line up the side of your trailer with where you want it to go, it'll go there if you keep it lined up as you back up. It's almost like theres an imaginary arrow down the side of the trailer that is pointing to where you want it to go, and then you keep steering as needed to keep it lined up. Getting used to trusting your mirrors and doing so on reflex takes a LOT of practice because everything is backwards, but eventually becoming second nature, like driving a stick shift transmission. Good luck, and good video about this. Truck drivers don't get enough recognition for their skills. For example, Fire-fighters are great people, they sacrifice to help others, and it is a noble calling. They are heros. Although I'm not comparing the two directly, truck drivers deserve at least a little recognition for what they do for this country. Its because they have to be responsible ALL THE TIME for handling 40 TONS of steel and product moving at 70+mph next to 4,000 pound cars and SUVs that they could tear through like toilet paper. Truckers have to leave their friends and family behind, miss holidays and birthdays, and weekend cookouts, and live in a hot or cold small cabin sleeper of a truck sleeping in parking lots for weeks at a time and worry for their safety. It's a hard life. A 40 hour work week is standard in most jobs. Truckers put in 40 hours by the 2nd day of their work week, and many have to work 6 or 7 days straight. They don't get off work because they are ALWAYS responsible for the truck and the load and what happens to it, or if it hurts someone or something. They spend 168 HOURS A WEEK baby-sitting the truck and the load, often for weeks at a time before getting to go home, but usually they don't get paid for anything except the miles they drive. Why? It's not like they get to go home. They should make at LEAST minimum wage when NOT driving. Truckers who arent driving have the job of a night watchman- being responsible for their rig. They sacrifice so much to make this country keep going. Next time you see a trucker, say "thanks". It's an otherwise thankless job demanding skills, time, and sacrifice. Thanks again for this video!
best comment i ever read in social media +++
great point about he watchman.
I really enjoyed reading that. Interesting, diverse and all good. Appreciated.
#@southernwaytransport… you are 100% correct! Nice write up you did!
Excellent explanation.Things get easy when you work it out in your head first and set things up properly on the way in.
I couldn't agree more.
there are truck simulator to laren how to reverse
and there is school to learn how to write english
*laren*?
Jurre Marien lmao 😂
You're a legend and a great instructor. now I'm off to bunnings for my "B Double"
there are truck simulator to laren how to reverse
Only spend $8..ok..lol
there better be a fkn sausage sizzle on when i get there
I can't believe I watched a 10 min video on this topic, I can't even back a small trailer. Smart bloke, real world experience trumps ego every day.
I only drive trucks in American Truck Simulator, but damn that was great lesson to sit in on. Before watching this video those double trailers seemed so intimidating, but now I'm tempted to try them out. Such simple yet, invaluable information I would have never figured out on my own.
Very good teacher this fella ,i did my double licence with him,.thanks for posting.
where is he located bro?
Raja Sidhu he was at munruben near browns plains in brissy.wouldnt have a clue where he is at now.
We are now in Loganholme QLD www.ddtindustries.com.au
How many cars have you reversed into?
The accent is unmistakable heh
This was brilliant advice. Best thing i ever got told was dont worry about the "A" trailer, get that "B" on the right track then chase her in with the "A". Also that advice of just disconnect and get it done without incident is gospel, with the weight of these things the potential for serious damage isnt worth the risk sometimes.
i was'nt going to watch this entire video but this guy was a good teacher so i ended up watching the whole thing. makes me wana be a truck driver
Seen those B Dubs on TV from the states, but never knew what they were called. Now I'm another one of the "experts!" Thanks!
Ridiculously simple the way he explained it. Great instructor.
This guy needs a bumper sticker, "Don't Drive above your own ability".
All he forgot was, "Mic Drop".
This dude knows what he is doing, the best advise is at the end, if you know u can’t do it don’t do it👍🏻
Thanks for uploading this. I really like the way you delivered the lesson and the use of the toys to demonstrate. So far this is the best video on here I have com across to explain this.
Brilliant. The simplicity of something that can be so overwhelming to an outsider is a testament to your experience and skill. Thank you very much. I didn't even get my truck drivers license yet but I understand this concept thanks to you.
What a champion instructor, I'm looking at training for HC, and this made sense.. thanks team
unhooking the trailer and adding around 7 minutes seems a very good option if you are at a narrow point and dont have experience with those trailers. well done.
"Don't drive above your own ability. If you see you cannot do it, then don't!" Best advice ever!"
very good advice would have never thought of that thank you
This was super helpful and iv never driven a rig a day in my life..Iv been pulling in and out of my driveway in my excursion for about the past hour simulating these moves, don't understand why my neighbors are looking at me weird, but i plan on going to Uhaul to rent a trailer and work on more moves for the heck of it..
How did you go mate? Did you end up renting that trailer to practice?
One of the best tutorial and educational videos on RUclips, great work.
That is one of the best videos I've seen. And the end bit is the best. You always have curbside drivers. And to beat them is lovely.
Great vid mate and great advice really made lots of sense thank you very much
I've unloaded a few road trains with 3 trailers... I've only ever seen one reverse once. This was really informative thanks.
Please make more of these videos, there absolutely brilliant and so educational
Thanks i really enjoyed the wisdom here, so much respect for the veterans who teach young fellas how to do stuff properly.
I had a junky driver so good at reversing his b double he flew in the gate did a u turn in side the yard tires squeeling then revere to the dock faster than i reverse my car. First shot every time. Unbelievable.
That's cause the "half decent drivers" who are on the shit actually focus or are more in the zone of doing what is at hand so to speak like reversing a B-double, but oblivious to most other things around them at the same time.
That's bcz he doesn't give a shit if he breaks something in truck, around truck or crush someone.
Wow I would pay to see a Swift driver back a double trailer. I would probably have to bring a snack.
blackericdenice 😀😁😁😂😂😂 ot would be pretty comical to see that 😬👻
Bring the BBQ and a carton for that one.
Probably.. more like bring enough camping gear to hold you for a couple days, Swift hires some of the worst out there it seems I've seen them do some things that make me shudder and some things I still laugh about years later.
It would be a good sized block party lol
I loaded trailers for kmart, and the swift trailers always had a label inside with threats not to damage it or be prosecuted or something. none of the other trailers had that though.
Wow, what a great video and excellent instructor. Well done!
I dont drive trucks or B-Doubles but ive known the pain of a public trailer reverse, and this bloke is the man !. Great knowledge, but also great vid - LEGEND
awesome! I agree 100% model practice is a great tool! great video!
would help a lot if the model actually had a steering wheel on top of it to turn the wheels too
Love how he explained it. I want to come there and drive one of these now!
Good good ,i have had afew people ask me where i got my double licence lately ,keep sending em your way !.
Great tutorial. Great instructor.
We're all just watching a man play with toy trucks for 10 minutes.
Perfectly sensible stuff. If you had a few extra bucks id get an rc truck to practice. Excellent teaching method, nothing better than seeing how things work.
Im buyin toy trucks again...makes perfect sense...dont drive pass your own abilities..good job mate
He forgot to mention about the Bunnings snag
I got my MC from this fella about 10 years ago. Thanks for the advice
What a bloody mission. I'm going for my MC next week. Looks daunting
The real trick is trying to back up a single after you've been driving b-trains for years, lol.
You want to learn how to back a double?
Get yourself a part time job as a baggage handler at an airport👍
parklifelee hell yes that’s where I learnt
This. spent 15 minutes today reversing two LD7 dollies for the first time. It's not easy!
Aww jeez....
I was about to comment till I see this haha. I reverse 737 aircraft all day long into and out of parking spots doing 90 degree turns etc. I used to think it was impossible. This guy is wrong by saying someone has to show you because I taught myself.
BRANDON CUEVA Let me get this right here. You were signed off to push and tow aircraft without being shown? Just left to go out and play with multi million dollar aircraft? Do you happen to work for Swissport....
Very clear and direct instructions.
Great video
thank you old mate ive been there many times ,i learnt here and give you my thanks 5 years later
@9:33 words of a very wise man💯
*were gonna turn to the right a very sharp right and were gonna crash into these trucks* hope you dont do this in real life
Awesome demo. Very helpful. Thank you
Excellent advice at the very end!!
So your wife comes home to see you on the living room floor playing with a toy truck. And you have to explain that your working
I'd rather be working on a couple double D's than a B double lol.
Out with a B double for the first time,thanks.it was a huge help:)
I learned to back a trailer with the smart phone game CarPark. The physics directly transferred to real life and it completely blew my friends and family away when I seemed as if I had already mastered backing a real trailer on my first attempt. I don't have and don't claim to have professional experience though. I've never driven a semi so have only been told what it's like. In my daily life I pull a very short trailer with a very long vehicle, I've been told this setup is far more difficult to back than a 53' on a semi. But in my own experience there's three things needed. The most important is to get the physics of it completely in your head like he says in the video. The second is spacial awareness, knowing how much space you need for a maneuver and visualizing where you are from a bird's eye view. Points of reference are extremely important, both on the truck and trailer, and on your surroundings. The third most important is picking a good approach like he said. You would'nt bend over to pick something up off the floor while standing 4 feet up on a ladder so don't approach a dock bass akwards either. All this is doubly important when backing the trailer to the right of the truck like he demonstrated because you can't look straight at it, you are required to look in a mirror. The most most important thing is stop when you hear a crunch! 😂
Try to do with independent dolly between trailers.
then its not a B double
but it is much harder I think, because you need to turn much faster between the phases.
kempo 95 it behaves like 3 trailers... So its the equivalent of a.. B triple? Its a whole other ball game your bringing into the light
Yeah, its like 3 trailers with the middle one being crazy short and mashed up under the front one...back a set of American doubles up more than 100 ft and you become a legend
@richard cunningham maybe.. I don't know the names of them... That's why I put the ? Lol. Around here we're rarely see anything more than a single with a pup trailer
Now try it with the dollies we have in the US where you have 3 pivot points instead of the two shown in this video.
then it wouldnt be a B double would it
swn02 Obviously it wouldn't. I was simply saying to try it with a dolly where it has 3 pivot points. Nowhere in my message did I talk bad about what he was teaching or try and discredit the video.
I don't think it really is possible to drive backwards with 3 pivot points. You need to turn wrong first, then right, wrong and lastly right. But you either need so much space or you fuck up the rear part if you want to straighten out. I'm not a truck driver but from my experience with American Truck Simulator, you can't do it.
You mean articulated
The best way to back up a 3 pivot point load is to stay as straight as possible. Don't ever try turning it'll never work.
Many thanks Sir Rutland ;) Your advice helped me alot!
Thanks for posting this video! Very helpful for me. Im applying for my truck license at the moment.
Why didnt my parents tell me i could have a job where i play with my toys. Dafuq
Have you seen the people who create the kits for Lego they sole purpose is to play lego at work every day...
Need a mic on your chest there buddy
Thanks for that priceless information
Excellent commentary / presentation!
This is every day food for Swedish truckers. We drive 25.25 meter 63 tons every day.
Billy Joe -- Swedish trucker called "Billy Joe" 🤔🙄😂😂😂😜
AFAIK Swedish doubles use an *independent dolly* which makes them as hard as an Australian triple to reverse.
can't talk shit about Euro truck drivers they are crazy us in Australia who have road trains don't have many obstacles but flat open roads
KastaRules nope not all, i drive a 74 ton b-double just as this one...
billy joe. good for you mate, you must be a expert, a waste of talent, you need to come operate our live cattle double deck 3 trailer roadtrains in Australia, instead of pussyfooting around in Europe.
98 % of b double drivers cant back what bullshit were did you get those figures from
Relax mate he is only being checky
I would say 98% can reverse, not can't!
I would say he is pretty spot on - maybe a 'bit cheeky' but if you spend much time around the container docks of Melbourne you would agree with him.
he got that from first fleet , they drove forward out of one yard and nosed in their destination and the yard driver split the combo to turn it around
The main guy explaining stuff here is great. Cheers.
He explained it very well👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Thanks for the tips.
I appreciate your time making this I'm a hc driver thinkin of doin my b double you make fkn sense thanks mate for the help.
This is probably the best instructor I have ever seen everything sunk In from the get go
Now that’s a natural teacher 👍🏻
use and carry with you a toy truck is a great idea to help you to visualise what is going to happen. great tip!
i dont even drive a truck but i watched the whole thing just because of how goof of an instructor/teacher that man is.
Wow that was awesome explanation. 👍👍👍
Even though this was made 7 years ago. I’m sitting my HC licence in 2 days and in 2 weeks sitting my MC licence. I also just ordered 2 semi trucks from Bunnings will pickup tomorrow and will practice in my mind so I will be set for the test.
Thank you so much for sharing.
geez mate... your a gun.. awsome teacher.. wish i had a instructor like you buddy.. good on ya!!
I did my hr licence with these guys back in 2013, good bunch and very good prices
The reaction time of the camera man when the instructor yells "Cut!" is quite impressive.
Hat off to you old mate I've had an MC lic for years but have not had to driven one for about ten years. Lost my Mo-Jo a bit and this was so helpful. Would love to buy you a beer sometime.
Very informative. Good video
These guys taught me, great bunch of blokes
Thank you guys, that was very helpful
really good training / excellent advice
The best instructions I've ever heard
Awesome. Will be going for my Mc licence soon and will definitely keep these lessons in mind cheers
How'd You Go?
I'm not a truck driver and I still thoroughly enjoyed this presentation.
Amazing video, 5 stars. I'd want to learn from this guy!
No idea why this was a suggested video. But the last line was the best.
That was solid. Just a true bloke