Trans & Clutch 9 - 2g Shifter Tech
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Detailing common failures in 2g DSM shifters, repairing a stock shifter, the B&M Short Shifter, the Symborski Shifter Bushing set, bronze shifter linkage bushings, and fixing sloppiness in all of my shifter's parts.
You like how all the part numbers are at the end of the video? Cool! Then click the like button because I work cheap! 
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Thanks for another gr8t upload! This is probably the only video explaining 2g shifter tech.
I don't know what credentials you have or what your education is, but you speak like a well informed, experienced, and distinguished university professor. Listening and learning from you is a joy. You could use all of your videos to make many publication lol.
I do work for a university, but I'm not a professor. :P Heck I'm not even an auto mechanic! I studied Chemistry. I fix computers. Auto mechanics is just one of those things in life I pursued because I was interested in it and learned it because I had to. I'd publish a book but people don't read anymore. :D
Jafromobile you are the man! It's great to see you continue with your hobby and still have a day job. I can't wait to see what else you have in store (especially with the GSX).
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I am not sure if it really matters, but the other instructions I've seen for the bushings shows the flat washer goes on the bottom and the other one on the top. Good video.
alot of good info thanks
thanks! I'll check it out!
Have you ever thought about making a video for rebuilding a 1g pedal assembly? Seems like it's getting to be a common repair on these old things.
I had the same problem! !! Got it welded!!!!
Thank god you gave us this whole piece of work of a video man, you freaking saved my ass!! My 2g shifter won’t go into 1&2 and I was wondering why
@Jafromobile - I was not suprised to see that you're a Tool fan. I'm a going to see A Perfect Circle July 26th.
Hey jafro I own a 1g and is there ever a need to replace the grommets/bushings at the end of the C?
Hi there :D
Will the B&M Short Shifter fit the 1gen VR4 shifter?
And where can i buy it :D
I like the video I don't see how you break the shifter idk if the 4g63 you have to shift hard but my 420a I can shift with my pinky easy. But everyone that drives it acts like the need to use all their strength. Where can you get a short shifter, I was looking a a few a couple years ago but they disappeared.
Where can I get that base for the shifter and the bushings. I’m converting my 98 galant automatic to manual and the base I found that said it would work won’t work
I have a 99 non turbo 420 do you know where I could find cables or how to make replacement ones? Every other ones I find are cheap and parts store don’t have them
I had the same issues when I picked up a megan racing short shifter(OEM one broke). I did the same as you and installed the shifter base bushings, and bronze shifter cable bushings, as well as add metal material with a welder just as you did. I STILL have side to side slop and little front to back. It drives me insane!
Check to see if it's on the shifter axis, or in the transmission linkage bushings under the hood. It takes 2 people to check this, but you'll know when you see the slop.
If the slop is in the shifter on the pivots, disassemble it and make sure it has bushings, and that they're not worn out. The factory shifter bushings cause this when they wear out. Some aftermarket shifters require that you swap them over from your stock shifter. The B&M doesn't replace the lower portion of the shifter assembly, just the stick... so if the Megan's like mine, check the bushings in the thing it bolts to, and the transmission linkage.
People sell shifter linkage bushings on ebay and at a few of the popular speed shops.
I do have the bushings on mine, it came in just as you B&M did. I have a small worry that it may be the linkages themselves. I will check for sure once the weather gets a bit warmer. Thanks for the tip and all the videos!
*I swapped my bushings over from my oem shifter to the Megan.*
On a car I used to own, I doubled-up the pivot bushings to fix this on the stock shifter. I had broken another one, bought a used one, and had an extra set. You can order them as a stand-alone dealer part if you want to try it. Another alternative might be an additional nylon washer to take up the slop of the center shaft. Metal parts will bind here.
I drive a 98 GS 5 speed, and it keeps popping out of 5th, it either comes half way out and makes a terrible noise or comes clean out into Neutral, would replacing these bushings stop that? Is it popping out because of the slack in it? I have a bad enough clutch and this isn't helping. Thanks
is there any way to get rid of the issue you had at 6:40 without welding the C cup center piece? I'm having a similar issue with my Megan Short shifter.
I am having problems with MB829013 on my B&M shifter like yours. I can't seem to get it to slide into the B&M shifter itself but it sets fine over the MB870379. It just seems a smidgen too big for the shifter. I though it was broken but it is made like that with the splice in it so I gotta order another one because I threw it away lol. Help?
Hey jafro i have a situation. That slack on my shifter thats missing metal how can you fix that if you dont have a welder available? What else could i use or do?
hell yeah tool shirt
Anyone know if you have to replace the whole shifter cable are or just wear if there's a piece that we're broke off if there's a connection peace
Quick question Jafro or to whoever can answer this. Can 4g64 shifting cables be used in a 2gb gst? Im asking because this is the only manuel car i found in my local junkyard and im a poor college student lol so any help would be greatly appreciated.
@Jafromobile Oh I will be sneaking in a video camera - don't worry. I got some good seats too - $70 a ticket.
this will be the next job i think my vr4 has terrible slop side to side
Stillen sportscars makes a really good 300zx top notch parts turbo and non turbo.
After watching this. .. you will find me in the garage with Undertow in the CD player and a shifter in my hand jiggling it to the rythm of Intolerance.
Now would this cause pop outs
Soo much play in my sifter (video of it /watch?v=JmE0CBOdjtA). What parts should I consider replacing to fix that?
I only have one question: Why no lube on anything?
I like silicone grease like Super Lube on anything that moves.
It's a good habit to have! Maybe back when I made this video and I could still buy all of the OE parts... I took these things for granted? Thank God this car is rolling back into my garage soon!
i was installing after market coilovers started with front after installing them i measured the fender to tire and found that i was haif an inch lower on driver side than passenger side so i reinstalled the old ones to find that it was still the same and that the rear of the car was half an inch lower on driver side as well why would this be.
thanks
Ray
the car is a 98 eclipse gs convertable
What about the bushings at the shifter side of the cable? Mine has so much play that it pops out of gear. I can't find replacements for this side, only for under the hood.
They're listed at the end of the video. For 1g and 2g. Exploded diagrams of the shifter assemblies. Google those part numbers and you'll find replacements for what you need.
Jarfro, im back wit more hahah... Iv seen and re-seen this video a couple of 100 times or more, but i still can't figure out one big issue.... where did you get the B&M shifter and should or should i not get the MEGAN RACING one? I can't find the B&M, only the MEGAN but im not sure if it will fit perfectly.... Cheers
Hahah... There's one on ebay right now. Listing ID#201920586186
ahhh i cant find it hahaha nothing shows up on the listings :/
Search "B&M Short shifter Eclipse" and it will show up as the top listing.
Ive looked everywhere for the b&m shifter, and now every megan racing one i find they don't have in stock...
ooh hope you disconnected the battery before welding in there :o
whats the name of the piece @4:08 i need that and cant seem to find out what it is. thanks!
It's in the exploded diagram at the end of the video. It's part number MB307949.
No it won't interchange. Im sure there are none left except for an ebay one but good luck with the quality.
My 3rd gear is off to the right a bit when shifting. Any idea why Jafro?
***** It's a cable shifter. Chances are your transmission isn't the problem. Check your linkages, tie-down brackets (the things with the clips that secure your cables), and the actual shifter bushings inside the center console. Find the slop and you'll find the problem. ;) If it were solid linkage, you'd have only half a reason to worry. Keyword: cable shifter
Thanks I figured that would be the culprit and I have brass cable bushings so might as well do the base!
I really need your help I’m trying to buy part mb870379 I really need it and can’t find it no where
is that 3000GT VR4 MITS?
Somebody was watching Wheeler Dealer's last night. :P
It's a 1995 Eclipse GSX. Same family and generation (and drivetrain, and half the engine and shifter parts) but different model.
Lol THAT happened to me.before
i'll be in gear and it feels like neutral lol
Check all of your shifter bushings both at the shifter and at the transmission... and check all the things that hold the shift cables down in the engine bay... and do it with the mind-set of "if either of these are loose and sloppy, so too will be the shifter." There's supposed to be a little plastic plug that rides in a cup at the base of the shifter that takes the slack out of the lefty-righty. There's plastic bushings inside the shifter cables at the transmission. Dry rot's a bitch.
Just hitting up an old video to get part numbers, don't mind me :D
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hi, my question involves the beginning part of your video (and anyone who can help, i'd like to hear your input.). im almost certain that the bushings for the pivot bearing on my 2g needs replaced. (p#:MB829013 in your video.) the sad thing is, only one result comes up when i type in the p# and it comes up for 1994 (its on mopar parts overstock.) and anything else i search for it (or what resembles it anyway...) is a set of polyurethane bushings.
(heres a link to a set""" www.ebay.com/itm/311539261054 """.)
Do you think that those would work and fix my issue.? (i have slight side to side movement and a fair bit of forward to back.. and my setup is stock but i plan on swapping to a shortshift as well, and plan on just doing EVERYTHING at once the first time around.) i can not for the likes of me find a set of metal ones, but the way i figured is that if these are the correct one's, i'll just go with them and replace them if i have troubles in the future.
thanks in advance for the help.!!
+queeneboy566 Those are to replace the bushings underneath the shifter plate where the shifter assembly bolts to the car. Those aren't the pivot bearings or pivot bushings for the shifter cables. Do yourself a favor, go back on ebay and search "DSM shifter bushings" There's you'll find every upgrade that can be made to take the slop out of your shifter. Cable ends and the baseplate bushings in your desired metal of choice.
Get someone in the interior to shift through the gears with the car off while you stand over the engine bay and look for loose bracketry. Nothing feels worse than the shifter cables flopping around while you're trying to shift. Forward-backward is usually the cable bushings or engine bay bracketry. The side-side slop is usually axis bushings on the actual shifter assembly. To check the shifter axis bushings, you have to take your center console out. It's usually the pivot point on the gear shift handle assembly flopping around. They've also been known to break loose while driving. Done it 3x.
+Jafromobile i had my brother play with the shifter (showed him how to make it "play" and checked under the hood on the transmission bracket and thats exactly my problem.! as far as the side to side i'll take a gander at it tomorrow when i get a chance. i appreciate the help.!
oh gosh I hope this does not happen to me!
It probably will. You could have it pre-emptively welded, though. Take the thing off, have it grinder and welded better before it breaks. They meant well and used strong enough parts, they just welded all of them poorly.
dude your transmission is going sorry
the welds are crap. both my friend and i have broke our shifter in a similar fasion... he has a gs and i have a gst
gettin dirty in a TOOL shirt. Not good.
Can you tell me the size of the clip that hold the shifter bushing against the shifter ? Mine didn't come with one.
At the end of the video there's diagrams with part numbers that you can google and buy, or pick up from a Mitsubishi dealer. I can't tell you correctly without more info. The shifters are different for 1g/2g and there's a half dozen bushings to pick from on each one.
I looked on the diagram and it's not on their.I just need to know the size of the e-clip you used towards the end
Are you talking about the B&M Short Shifter? Because the diagrams at the end are all of the factory parts. Come on man... 13 minute video... Not only did I make the video, I've watched it a thousand times already. Please at least give me a point of reference. A timecode. Save a brother some effort for your problem.
Jafromobile at 10:43 you say this is an e-clip. That’s what I need. My short throw shifter kit didn’t come with one. Did that help ?
lol. Yes. That would be a part of the B&M short shifter. I would naturally assume you didn't have one since they're out of production, but Megan Racing still makes the same thing. Look, buy this for $7 and call it a day. One of them's bound to work. ;) www.harborfreight.com/300-piece-e-clip-assortment-67653.html