I almost got this board but went with a b650 tomahawk. It’s my 3rd pc build but as being the first build with msi motherboard I really appreciate the bios, it’s easy to use
@@MuhammadTanveer-gw3ptdude I was in the same situation Here’s the rundown of MSI mobos to consider in the price range S wifi , P WiFi and Gaming plus WiFi are all same . Tomahawk is slightly better but not worth more than 20$ extra over the Gaming plus WiFi Get the cheapest board from the bunch ( usually S WiFi )
Yo I can’t get the WiFi to work what did you guys have to do for that. All I did was screw the antennas in but I can’t get a connection on the computer
@@907chaosgaming2 If I remember correctly, I did have to connect my pc to a personal WiFi antenna and then the board's antennae did connect my internet even after unplugging the first one. Maybe try an ethernet connection first and then check if the mobo picks up a signal.
I too have this board, (MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI with 7800X3D). Looks good in black, works good, the SSD heatsink included is nice and the included WIFI is needed because any mid size graphics card, or bigger, blocks a lot of PCI-E ports on the board. I usually run an ethernet cable but WIFI helps if I take it to a buddies for a gaming weekend. Seems like some decent sized heatsinks on the VRM's as well, which is always good. I am pretty happy with this Micro-ATX version of this board.
Nice looking board. Currently not a fan of DDR5 memory because of all the fiddling you have to do in the BIOS to make stable. I'll stay with DDR4 for now. Thanks for sharing Mike and Lady Kath. Take care all. Cheers
Solid MOBO and the 2.5g Ethernet and the wfif 6e features are fantastic ! DDR5 is also a must for my new builds. Price is right for sure. Great review Mike!
Hi I have this board and we have just upgraded our Internet to 2gb and now I am only getting 70mb download and around 150mb upload. Do you have any idea what is wrong thanks
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Thank you for this review man, Just want to say you are extremely intelligent with your knowledge on all this tech, hopefully one day i’ll understand half of what you said 😂
thank you very much, that is really kind of you to say. lucky for me this has been my hobby since the 80s so i have learned what i needed to on the way. Spend enough time in a certain field and you will likely become pretty knowledgeable in it
I have this specific board (paid 185€, no idea how this can be considered "budget", I would classify that pricepoint as midrange unless inflation has really taking me by much more suprise than I realized) and am a bit disappointed tbh. Despite an extremely fast NVME (SN850X), it takes 1:25 minutes to boot, and 1:44 minutes to restart. Integrated Bluetooth and WiFi are wonky, half the time I cannot make a connection. Once booted, everything else seems to work though. I tested on Bios 7E26v19 from 2024-02-07 and recently 7E26v1A from 2024-04-11, no improvements between the update. You can try to enable "Memory Context Restore" in the Bios OC settings, which roughly halves boot times but is not stable on for every ram kit, and still takes longer to boot than my 7 year old potatoe PC with a 50x slower drive. Bit meh.
Same bro i cant connect bluetooth and wifi is being annoying, its given me a lot of headache in the past 2 days im thinking of switching to the asus tuf b650 gaming plus wifi do you know if that one is good
Being the same price, wouldn't the Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS be better? (I don't know the price in our countries... and I'm not talking about the Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI version that is in your other videos) By the way, great work on the videos! I really like the reviews
as always it depneds on a few things, availability, price and the board spec, the TUF might be a better option for some, and definitely worth shopping around for
sometimes if a video switches between patreon and members access that happens or if a membership expires that could also cause it. OR maybe kath was updating something on the video maybe, or even scheduling for general release
Will amd 7900x go perfect with this mobo performing to its full potential & massive overclocking without any bottleneck??? i wanna built one so ur approval will be a big help
This is actually a twin to my Pro B650S WiFi, same spec, same slot positions, even the same BIOS id, they are both 7E26. Just a different heatsink style and no shroud over the IO
I got this motherboard because it was in the micocenter bundle i bought, not my first choice but it is ok. Bundle deal was ryzen 7 7700x/msi b650 motherboard/32g ddr5@6000mhz for $399. I do prefer built in wifi though since its way faster. Clicking your link to this build this setup is $706.
@@mikesunboxing I thought so to, total build was $1300 after taxes, put a rx7800xt in it and I'm very impressed with it. My cinebench scores are slightly above stock since I undervolted and that gives you a 200 to 300mhz boost and the cpu runs much cooler. Think maybe yours was the undervolting video I watched. 👍
Thanks Mike! I love your live streams! This MOBO isn't bad, but the lack of a PCIe 5.0 M.2 slot kills it for me, no way I over paid for a Crucial T705 4TB PCIe 5.0 M.2 to run it at PCIe 4.0 speeds. even tho I would not notice the difference 99% of the time.
@@gezimlimoni2319 Kitguru, Tom's Hardware, techpowerup, overclock3d, techspot. Few to try for reviews on PCIe 5.0 support boards that are worth buying. Pick the look and features price point you are after. What has the best warranty support in your region.
Hi. I could be wrong, but to me other than the WiFi the B550 Gaming + looked and seemed to have better facilities....??? I had 3 of them over the years and I know you did too.... What's your view? At least it had a fitted Rear IO...!
the b550 gaming plus is a fantastic example of MSI at their peak. The B650 follows that tradition mostly, but like you said it really doesn't add much to the mix other than the chipset itself, wifi and some faster USB ports. this is definitely a good choice for AM5 in the sanme way that the B550 version is for AM4
I’m not sure if you’ll see this but Im trying to build my first pc and I can’t figure out what the problem is (HELP PLEASE) PARTS: CPU-Amd Ryzen 7 7800x3d RAM-Tcreate ddr5 x 2 GPU-Gforce rtx3080 10gb MOTHERBOARD-mid b650 gaming plus wifi Powersupply-Corsair rm1000x Aio-asus rog ryuo III 360 argb (I switched the fans from asus to the lx120 from Corsair) Problems? Ive taken the cpu out looked at pins and it all checked out. I’ve unplugged all the power cables and replugged them in I’ve taken the ram out and put it back in I’ve taken the gpu out and put that back in The only odd thing I’ve found is when I hit the power button on the power supply I can’t find any leds on the motherboard that light up (yes I’ve checked if I have power, I can hear a slight buzz in the power supply when I turn the power supply on). I’ve tried the power switch on the motherboard or at least what i think it is I’ve checked manuals for it but this is my first build and I’m not sure if I’m getting the right pins. Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated, thank you
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I didn't know about this board as I was looking for white boards, which I ultimately ended up getting Aorus Elite X AX Ice. But this one is nice, if I went for any B650 board this'd be in my radar.
Like this motherboard, for once M.2 doesnt compromise sata ports. Looks to have decent heat sinks and plenty of fan ports. As AM4 mbs seem to be few and not cheap this would be a good choice to get into AM5. Tempted but for me no gain as casual gamer and media use. Thanks Mike and Kath👍
Hey, please help me. Got the MSI B650 Gaming Plus wifi motherboard with Ryzen 5 7600X, Corsair DDR5 RAM (2x16GB) 5600MHz CL36 and the cooler is a thermalright frozen prism water cooler. PC has been built but the EZ debug is coming up with a red and orange light on the CPU and DRAM. I have taken RAM out and fired up, have only used one slot of RAM and still got the same issue. Tried to losen off the cooler to see if that makes a difference. Pins checked under chip and all seem fine.
How is all the problem about the very long booting, instability issues when XMP/EXPO is enabled. Does "Memory Context Restore" + "Power Down" really remove all the problems?
Hi, i was looking for some feedback. Im putting together my first PC build in years and this is my selection per budget. 7600x, 4070 Super, 32gb ddr5 ram, 2tb M.2 drive and this MOBO do you see any issues with this combination? The MOBO scene is a minefield it seems. Thanks
Sir I have recently built a PC with this motherboard and ryzen 5 7600. Could you provide some insight into how much upgradability would i might have with this setup in future 😊
This motherboard supports gen4X4 M2 NVMe SSDs, but in the BIOS you can actually set it to Gen5X4 SSD. I dont know if that it is going to work or run an SSD with R/W speed of 10000 MB/s and over...
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Bought one of these and a Lexar NM790 (with a heat sink) for my first ever build; I'm waiting for my 7500F to come in and im wondering if the heatsink that comes with my lexar would perform better than the frozr?
it will possibly be about the same, i would use the frozr to keep it looking OEM but try both and see which gives the better results, i'll be interested to hear about it if you do
Pulling my hair out on what mobo to go for and psu. Got a ryzen 7 7800x3d and gpu wise looking maybe a 4070 ti super, 4080 super or 7900 xtx or save some money and get s 4070 super now and hope rtx 5000 is available, well priced and a gpod upgrade.
hi i have a couple questions. what are the things i need to do in bios when i finish building my pc and are all the bios for msi the same on all of their motherboards. also do you have a video on how to do a bios setup for it
Quick question: I bought MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor I got this warning: Warning: The MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7E10v13. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU." should I flash the bios before using the 7800x3d or should it work out of the gate?
if the item is over £135 you may have to pay import duty if they declare the true value. Anything under £135 is taxed at the checkout. so it is possible that you might be forced to to make the purchase if under the thresholds
How long does it take to boot into Windows with m2?have an MSI B450 Gaming Plus with a 5800x3D. I would still like to switch to AM5.. the only thing that puts me off is the boot times.. I never have problems with my System
Because they sold out here a long time ago! If your lucky 🍀 you might find a 4070 ti version here if you’re willing to pay 💰 double or triple the price of a 3060!
it is all about knowing the boards abilities. It is unlikley that someone will get a budget board like this and then buy a 7950 and use it as a rendering machine. most will buy this for gaming and netflix etc, which even with the 7950 will be totally fine as most games don't tax the CPU like a cinebench run will. this board is well suited to it's price range and target audience. The name of the board even points that direction
unless it is really old stock in should be included, but updating is very easy to do if needed. Check the production date on the box and compare that to the bios release dates
@@mikesunboxing As i wrote before, i heard that MSI having a lot of boot issues when EXPO is on and etc. Will i will be safe pairing it with R7 7800X3D and Lexar Ares 6000mhz CL30?
@@mikesunboxing thankyou! seems like any thread nowadays will tell you your either wasting your money somewhere in your build or not spending enough lol
I don't know if i should buy this or msi pro b650-S wifi help please my build Cpu : R7 7800x3d Gpu : sapphire rx 7900 xtx nitro+24gb Ram : Corsair vengeance ddr5 6000mhz 2x16 32gb Storage memory : 2 wd black sn850x with heatsink 2000 gb + 1000 gb Write transfer speedi 6600 MB/s Read transfer speedi 7300 MB/s Max. random 4K read 1200000 IOPS Max. random 4K write 1100000 IOPS Cpu cooler : deepcool ak620 zero dark zoria Power supply : deepcool pm850d 850W Case : Hybrok titan evo 7 fans rgb
Just started building my pc and I got an AK400 zero dark plus cpu cooler. And it won’t fit in the b650 mother board. Anyone know any good cpu cooler, that will fit with this mother board.
When i boot my new pc whit the gpu the pc doesnt start and the white led debug is always on, if i use the gpu integrated in my cpu the pc start i dont know what to do
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Overall most of the thing u use on AMD is PBO aka Precision Boost Overdrive. What this does? It's a thing for undervolting when meanwhile it boost clocks a bit. Most of times recommended is PBO Curve on Negative -30. It's the best to test it by AMD Ryzen Master on your system first to see if it will cause problems.
Many people really are concerned if "budget" or "mid range" motherboards will afford those top processors and yeah you can even if u gonna mess around with some PBO. You could even put there top Ryzen 9 processor and it will work perfectly, it's just if u have that kind of money, you rather got for better mobos as well.
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I almost got this board but went with a b650 tomahawk. It’s my 3rd pc build but as being the first build with msi motherboard I really appreciate the bios, it’s easy to use
Can you please advice why did you went to b650 tomahawk?
@@MuhammadTanveer-gw3ptdude I was in the same situation
Here’s the rundown of MSI mobos to consider in the price range
S wifi , P WiFi and Gaming plus WiFi are all same . Tomahawk is slightly better but not worth more than 20$ extra over the Gaming plus WiFi
Get the cheapest board from the bunch ( usually S WiFi )
@@sravans149 Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
Indeed this is great value for a decent modest build. Loads of features to keep any system builder out of mischief for a while. Thanks Mike and Kath 🙂
Couldn't agree more! looking forward to the cheapo ali express CPU showing up and getting a build done
Does it have bluetooth?
@@metabolic2057yup! Bluetooth 5.3
@@metabolic2057yes, Bluetooth 5.3
Great review as always. Thanks for the straight forward and detailed review!
thank you
Exactly the same mobo that I got for my 1st build. Enjoying it a lot so far!
Good to hear!
Yo I can’t get the WiFi to work what did you guys have to do for that. All I did was screw the antennas in but I can’t get a connection on the computer
@@907chaosgaming2 If I remember correctly, I did have to connect my pc to a personal WiFi antenna and then the board's antennae did connect my internet even after unplugging the first one. Maybe try an ethernet connection first and then check if the mobo picks up a signal.
@@907chaosgaming2 did you install the drivers? i didnt have any problem with mine
Another good one Mike. Thank you.
cheers!
I finished my new build last week with an MSI PRO B650M-A wifi. amazing board, works like a charm
that is a great board, hope you enjoy it
I too have this board, (MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI with 7800X3D). Looks good in black, works good, the SSD heatsink included is nice and the included WIFI is needed because any mid size graphics card, or bigger, blocks a lot of PCI-E ports on the board. I usually run an ethernet cable but WIFI helps if I take it to a buddies for a gaming weekend. Seems like some decent sized heatsinks on the VRM's as well, which is always good. I am pretty happy with this Micro-ATX version of this board.
Nice looking board. Currently not a fan of DDR5 memory because of all the fiddling you have to do in the BIOS to make stable. I'll stay with DDR4 for now. Thanks for sharing Mike and Lady Kath. Take care all. Cheers
it is getting better with each bios update, but still a while to go until it is truly plug and play
Why not using expo/xmp profiles? It is good enough.
Solid MOBO and the 2.5g Ethernet and the wfif 6e features are fantastic ! DDR5 is also a must for my new builds. Price is right for sure. Great review Mike!
Couldn't agree more! thanks mike
Hi I have this board and we have just upgraded our Internet to 2gb and now I am only getting 70mb download and around 150mb upload. Do you have any idea what is wrong thanks
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I've built a PC a couple of weeks ago for a friend using this board, a Ryzen 5 7600 and a 4070 Super. It's not a bad board for the price.
that is a great combination of parts
@@mikesunboxing Yup; he chose this board, I suggested a B650 Eagle AX which was a bit cheaper. Still, not a bad choice.
do you need to use both power inserts for a 4070? or just one ?
@@ronoc05 Can you explain better? I don't get what you're asking.
@@danielegalizzi8562 as in the motherboards power sockets on the top left
Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to, You're amazing! I hit the like button as soon as I saw it!
thank you, that is really kind of you to say
Thank you for this review man,
Just want to say you are extremely intelligent with your knowledge on all this tech, hopefully one day i’ll understand half of what you said 😂
thank you very much, that is really kind of you to say. lucky for me this has been my hobby since the 80s so i have learned what i needed to on the way. Spend enough time in a certain field and you will likely become pretty knowledgeable in it
I have this specific board (paid 185€, no idea how this can be considered "budget", I would classify that pricepoint as midrange unless inflation has really taking me by much more suprise than I realized) and am a bit disappointed tbh. Despite an extremely fast NVME (SN850X), it takes 1:25 minutes to boot, and 1:44 minutes to restart.
Integrated Bluetooth and WiFi are wonky, half the time I cannot make a connection. Once booted, everything else seems to work though.
I tested on Bios 7E26v19 from 2024-02-07 and recently 7E26v1A from 2024-04-11, no improvements between the update.
You can try to enable "Memory Context Restore" in the Bios OC settings, which roughly halves boot times but is not stable on for every ram kit, and still takes longer to boot than my 7 year old potatoe PC with a 50x slower drive. Bit meh.
it is a budget model for AM5 B650, they can be a lot more expensive
Same bro i cant connect bluetooth and wifi is being annoying, its given me a lot of headache in the past 2 days im thinking of switching to the asus tuf b650 gaming plus wifi do you know if that one is good
Turn on Memory Context Restore and Power Down on enable, it's skipping memory training and boot should be around 20sec.
just looking for this and new video NICE!
thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed it
Hi Mike, I'm sold so this will be my choice when I upgrade my current MSI AM4 system. Thanks for helping me choose. 😀
Good choice!
Being the same price, wouldn't the Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS be better? (I don't know the price in our countries... and I'm not talking about the Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI version that is in your other videos) By the way, great work on the videos! I really like the reviews
as always it depneds on a few things, availability, price and the board spec, the TUF might be a better option for some, and definitely worth shopping around for
A video I was watching of yours went down as I was half way through it. It went private. Strange ?
sometimes if a video switches between patreon and members access that happens or if a membership expires that could also cause it. OR maybe kath was updating something on the video maybe, or even scheduling for general release
I see but I just received new membership so it’s not that !
@@lorderectus1849 which video is it
@lorderectus 1849 protecting the private parts...
Will amd 7900x go perfect with this mobo performing to its full potential & massive overclocking without any bottleneck??? i wanna built one so ur approval will be a big help
should be fine
This is actually a twin to my Pro B650S WiFi, same spec, same slot positions, even the same BIOS id, they are both 7E26. Just a different heatsink style and no shroud over the IO
ah very cool, thanks for that info. might be one to look out for next
I got this motherboard because it was in the micocenter bundle i bought, not my first choice but it is ok. Bundle deal was ryzen 7 7700x/msi b650 motherboard/32g ddr5@6000mhz for $399. I do prefer built in wifi though since its way faster. Clicking your link to this build this setup is $706.
that was a great deal you got there
@@mikesunboxing I thought so to, total build was $1300 after taxes, put a rx7800xt in it and I'm very impressed with it. My cinebench scores are slightly above stock since I undervolted and that gives you a 200 to 300mhz boost and the cpu runs much cooler. Think maybe yours was the undervolting video I watched. 👍
@bluecollarwatches7048 where did you get the deal I'm interested?
Thanks Mike! I love your live streams! This MOBO isn't bad, but the lack of a PCIe 5.0 M.2 slot kills it for me, no way I over paid for a Crucial T705 4TB PCIe 5.0 M.2 to run it at PCIe 4.0 speeds. even tho I would not notice the difference 99% of the time.
B650E boards are getting cheaper.
@@roythunderplumpwhich board exactly,,,I need it for 7800x3d gaming only?
@@gezimlimoni2319 Kitguru, Tom's Hardware, techpowerup, overclock3d, techspot. Few to try for reviews on PCIe 5.0 support boards that are worth buying. Pick the look and features price point you are after. What has the best warranty support in your region.
@@roythunderplump I think a lot of that is because we are getting close to the launch of the new AM5 Motherboards.
@@gezimlimoni2319 There are a lot of inexpensive AM5 Motherboards, if you don't need RGB I recommend the Asrock b650m-hdv/m.2.
Great review Mike;nice looking mobo.Thank you for sharing your thoughts Mike and Kath 👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks for watching! especially as it isn't Intel
@@mikesunboxing I watch all your videos Mike;l thought about saying would be better with intel socket🙂.Seriously though;l did enjoy your review ❤️
@@colinhilton6067 Thanks Colin appreciate that 🙂
Actually helpful ty
thanks
Hi. I could be wrong, but to me other than the WiFi the B550 Gaming + looked and seemed to have better facilities....??? I had 3 of them over the years and I know you did too.... What's your view? At least it had a fitted Rear IO...!
the b550 gaming plus is a fantastic example of MSI at their peak. The B650 follows that tradition mostly, but like you said it really doesn't add much to the mix other than the chipset itself, wifi and some faster USB ports.
this is definitely a good choice for AM5 in the sanme way that the B550 version is for AM4
I’m not sure if you’ll see this but Im trying to build my first pc and I can’t figure out what the problem is (HELP PLEASE)
PARTS:
CPU-Amd Ryzen 7 7800x3d
RAM-Tcreate ddr5 x 2
GPU-Gforce rtx3080 10gb
MOTHERBOARD-mid b650 gaming plus wifi
Powersupply-Corsair rm1000x
Aio-asus rog ryuo III 360 argb (I switched the fans from asus to the lx120 from Corsair)
Problems?
Ive taken the cpu out looked at pins and it all checked out.
I’ve unplugged all the power cables and replugged them in
I’ve taken the ram out and put it back in
I’ve taken the gpu out and put that back in
The only odd thing I’ve found is when I hit the power button on the power supply I can’t find any leds on the motherboard that light up (yes I’ve checked if I have power, I can hear a slight buzz in the power supply when I turn the power supply on). I’ve tried the power switch on the motherboard or at least what i think it is I’ve checked manuals for it but this is my first build and I’m not sure if I’m getting the right pins.
Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated, thank you
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I didn't know about this board as I was looking for white boards, which I ultimately ended up getting Aorus Elite X AX Ice. But this one is nice, if I went for any B650 board this'd be in my radar.
Like this motherboard, for once M.2 doesnt compromise sata ports. Looks to have decent heat sinks and plenty of fan ports. As AM4 mbs seem to be few and not cheap this would be a good choice to get into AM5. Tempted but for me no gain as casual gamer and media use. Thanks Mike and Kath👍
this will be one to look out for a few months as the 9000 series hits the stores
Hey, please help me. Got the MSI B650 Gaming Plus wifi motherboard with Ryzen 5 7600X, Corsair DDR5 RAM (2x16GB) 5600MHz CL36 and the cooler is a thermalright frozen prism water cooler. PC has been built but the EZ debug is coming up with a red and orange light on the CPU and DRAM. I have taken RAM out and fired up, have only used one slot of RAM and still got the same issue. Tried to losen off the cooler to see if that makes a difference. Pins checked under chip and all seem fine.
is the RAM EXPO certified or is it XMP for Intel?
@@mikesunboxing Profile Support: AMD EXPO, Intel XMP 3.0. That's what it shows in ebuyer
Nice! Can I use it with a 7950x ? I'd like to work in unreal engine, 3d and do some gaming sometimes. What's your opinion ?
yeah should be fine
How is all the problem about the very long booting, instability issues when XMP/EXPO is enabled. Does "Memory Context Restore" + "Power Down" really remove all the problems?
yes and also newer bios updates improve it
Hi, i was looking for some feedback. Im putting together my first PC build in years and this is my selection per budget. 7600x, 4070 Super, 32gb ddr5 ram, 2tb M.2 drive and this MOBO do you see any issues with this combination? The MOBO scene is a minefield it seems. Thanks
sounds like an excellent choice of parts
Sir I have recently built a PC with this motherboard and ryzen 5 7600. Could you provide some insight into how much upgradability would i might have with this setup in future 😊
really the main constraint is your wallet, you can easily use any of the AM5 range of processors and ANY GPU you can afford
This motherboard supports gen4X4 M2 NVMe SSDs, but in the BIOS you can actually set it to Gen5X4 SSD. I dont know if that it is going to work or run an SSD with R/W speed of 10000 MB/s and over...
Is this a Micro-ATX? Sorry I’m only starting my first pc build and unsure what else I need to get. Thank you.
No this is the full atx version, matx versions will usually have the b650m naming scheme on them
@@mikesunboxing that’s really helpful thank you. What would you recommend? What processor should I match up with a b650m
@@Jaffvapes if you want lots of advice and a quicker and easier way to discuss the options in a more private area, our discord chat server might be a better way for me to help you through the buying and building process
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Bought one of these and a Lexar NM790 (with a heat sink) for my first ever build; I'm waiting for my 7500F to come in and im wondering if the heatsink that comes with my lexar would perform better than the frozr?
it will possibly be about the same, i would use the frozr to keep it looking OEM but try both and see which gives the better results, i'll be interested to hear about it if you do
Pulling my hair out on what mobo to go for and psu.
Got a ryzen 7 7800x3d and gpu wise looking maybe a 4070 ti super, 4080 super or 7900 xtx or save some money and get s 4070 super now and hope rtx 5000 is available, well priced and a gpod upgrade.
tough choices at the moment, not many "bargains" to be had and there will always be something better and cheaper down the road
hi i have a couple questions. what are the things i need to do in bios when i finish building my pc and are all the bios for msi the same on all of their motherboards. also do you have a video on how to do a bios setup for it
any of the MSI bios tour videos will give you a good idea of what to do, or you can ask on our discord for specifics if you like
Quick question:
I bought
MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
I got this warning:
Warning: The MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7E10v13. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU."
should I flash the bios before using the 7800x3d or should it work out of the gate?
answered on the other video
Should I get Gigabyte b650 eagle ax or MSI b650 gaming plus WiFi?
i would get the gaming plus wifi
@@mikesunboxingdang you're fast, no offense, sorry.
Thank you for your reply.
i have this motherboard and 7800x3d. Can you recommend expo compatible RAM? And Is this the right choice for 7800x3d?
lexar ares 6000 is good and pretty good value
Sorry, the best value has to be asrock b650m-hdv/m.2.
I second that.
that is a micro atx board so a different class really. But i get what you are saying
hey mike, did you have to pay customs tax or any kind of tax when you bought from ali express?
if the item is over £135 you may have to pay import duty if they declare the true value.
Anything under £135 is taxed at the checkout.
so it is possible that you might be forced to to make the purchase if under the thresholds
How long does it take to boot into Windows with m2?have an MSI B450 Gaming Plus with a 5800x3D. I would still like to switch to AM5.. the only thing that puts me off is the boot times.. I never have problems with my System
20 seconds or so maybe less
Oh by the way I just bought a MSI RTX 3060 ventus x2 OC with 12gig ram 🐏 today!
nice card! i have a soft spot for those
@lorderectus 1849 Why not the 3060 Ti buddy?
Because they sold out here a long time ago!
If your lucky 🍀 you might find a 4070 ti version here if you’re willing to pay 💰 double or triple the price of a 3060!
@@lorderectus1849 undertand; can't buy what is not available. Sucky.
Was this in hardware unboxed recent b650 roundup? Some of these cheaper boards are terrible
it is all about knowing the boards abilities. It is unlikley that someone will get a budget board like this and then buy a 7950 and use it as a rendering machine.
most will buy this for gaming and netflix etc, which even with the 7950 will be totally fine as most games don't tax the CPU like a cinebench run will.
this board is well suited to it's price range and target audience. The name of the board even points that direction
Is the MSI B650 Gaming Plus WiFi good with the Ryzen 7 8700G or should I get another MSI AM5 Motherboard?
yeah that is a good combo especially for a non gpu system. If you are planning using a GPU don't buy the 8700g
@@mikesunboxing Hmm Maybe a Ryzen 7 7700 (non-x) might go well with the MSI B650 Gaming Plus WiFi vs the MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI?
For €160 the board actually seems to be okay, but two eight PIN connections for the CPU?
yeah totally unnecessary
does this come with the bios ready for the ryzen 7 7800x3D out the box? or do i need to update the bios
unless it is really old stock in should be included, but updating is very easy to do if needed. Check the production date on the box and compare that to the bios release dates
What about those 3?
MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi, ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING or ASRock B650 PRO RS for AM5?
Gaming plus WiFi
@@mikesunboxing As i wrote before, i heard that MSI having a lot of boot issues when EXPO is on and etc. Will i will be safe pairing it with R7 7800X3D and Lexar Ares 6000mhz CL30?
@Berkelll as long as the ram is the expo certified ones you should be fine
I decided to go with MSI B650 Tomahawk. Wish me luck to not have any problems. Cheers!
@@Berkelll Good luck!
Can I use ryzen 9 7900x and rtx 4080 on it without bottleneck?
yes that should be fine
I have this same mobo i am curious as this dont have pcie 5.0 will i be able to fully ultise next gen GPU like 5090 ?
until we find out more about the 5090 it is hard to tell but i am pretty confident that it will be PCIe gen4
sorry to dump this here
but do you think i’m shorting myself with this MB and cpu gpu combo
ryzen 5 7600x
radeon 7800xt
no that is fine
@@mikesunboxing thankyou! seems like any thread nowadays will tell you your either wasting your money somewhere in your build or not spending enough lol
Contrary to what was said below, you CAN go wrong with MSI boards. Most recent example, they have come out recently with some crappy B650s.
yeah i am in the same boat. this is the actual board i am returning due to the weird bios behaviour
@@mikesunboxingUh-oh, maybe I should be worried
@@mikesunboxing As a first time pc builder, what B650 MOBO would you recommend that doesn't have BIOS issue or any issue only initial setup?
@@mikesunboxingyh bro bios is being annoying as hell, do you know if asus tuf b650 gaming plus wifi is any better?
I don't mnow if with a ryzen 5 7600x should i buy a msi mag b 650 tomahawk wifi or the mai mag b650 gaming plus wifi
either will be fine
@@mikesunboxing I see, thank you!
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk vs MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI for Ryzen 7 7800X3D?
hmm not much between them, maybe the gaming plus
8:20 Is this delamination on the textolite (white) normal? I also bought this motherboard and noticed these delaminations too
seems to be something to do with the manufacturing process, it hasn't seemed to cause any stabilty problems
I don't know if i should buy this or msi pro b650-S wifi help please my build
Cpu : R7 7800x3d
Gpu : sapphire rx 7900 xtx nitro+24gb
Ram : Corsair vengeance ddr5 6000mhz 2x16 32gb
Storage memory : 2 wd black sn850x with heatsink 2000 gb + 1000 gb
Write transfer speedi
6600 MB/s
Read transfer speedi
7300 MB/s
Max. random 4K read
1200000 IOPS
Max. random 4K write
1100000 IOPS
Cpu cooler : deepcool ak620 zero dark zoria
Power supply : deepcool pm850d 850W
Case : Hybrok titan evo 7 fans rgb
get the gaming plus
@@mikesunboxing thank you soo much , brother.♥️
do you think that this motherboard is better than the b650 eagle ax?
i don't know what to pick
personally i have a strong preference for MSI bios and software so even if the VRM was stronger on the Eagle i would still go with the msi
@@mikesunboxing thanks for the answer, i think that i'm gonna buy the b650 tomhawk wifi cuz it's in discount in my country
Very nice Motherboard ❤
it is, i like it
is mystic light working fine with everything argb related?
yeah runs well
does the Phantom Spirit also work with the b650 gaming plus wifi motherboard?
Yes it does
@@mikesunboxing Thank you very much. I was trying to install the intel cpu bracket but didn’t realize the bracket was only for intel 1 hour later.
@@Fatlikew Glad you got it working 🙂
@@mikesunboxing got my pc to work!!!
I cant find fhe m.2 E wifi card to plug on the motherboard
it is next the the LAN port, two or three screws on the back of the board to remove it
Just started building my pc and I got an AK400 zero dark plus cpu cooler. And it won’t fit in the b650 mother board. Anyone know any good cpu cooler, that will fit with this mother board.
how does it not fit? it should do
When i boot my new pc whit the gpu the pc doesnt start and the white led debug is always on, if i use the gpu integrated in my cpu the pc start i dont know what to do
My gpu is Rx 7800 xt
This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
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excelente!
thanks
Where is wifi card in it? 😮.....is it embedded in mobo?
it is under the VRM heatsink
this or B650M project zero, both are the same price
if you go project zero you will need a compatible case as well
@@mikesunboxing the case i'm gonna get is compatible, which one offers more value out of these 2 for the same price
My corsair vengeance ddr5 isn’t compatible?:/ I can’t use two sticks but only one in the second slot
is it expo or xmp
@@mikesunboxing xmp. I dont know how to work bios haha but if there’s a way to fix it there then I’ll look it up
@@mikesunboxing both sticks work in the second slot only
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Is it still possible and easy to overclock with this motherboard
yes it is
Overall most of the thing u use on AMD is PBO aka Precision Boost Overdrive. What this does? It's a thing for undervolting when meanwhile it boost clocks a bit. Most of times recommended is PBO Curve on Negative -30. It's the best to test it by AMD Ryzen Master on your system first to see if it will cause problems.
This one or ASROCK B650m pro rs?
either is a good choice, asrock probably better for vrm
@@mikesunboxing thanks
Nice board for something like a 7600x
yes perfect choice really at this price
would it be okay to pair it with a 7800x3d ?
yes that is fine
And ok with the 4080 super as well? I feel like that mobo is the weakest link in my current setup
@@robday2007yes
Many people really are concerned if "budget" or "mid range" motherboards will afford those top processors and yeah you can even if u gonna mess around with some PBO. You could even put there top Ryzen 9 processor and it will work perfectly, it's just if u have that kind of money, you rather got for better mobos as well.
@@Berkelll the mobo will prob be the next thing I upgrade. Got the 4080 super and 7800x3d and they should be fine for another year or two.
i’m building rn what do i do with those sticks
i have no idea what you are asking here sorry?
You can't go wrong with MSI 😀
that is 100% accurate
Lovely AMD 😁
Not Asus though 🤣😂🤣😂
Would never go below x670 though..
Why not? what extra benefits do you get other than the bandwidth for extra PCIe cards?
@@mikesunboxing I just like the x boards..
Better build and extras..
Just me 😁
@@Vialli100. Be honest, is it because X is further in to the alphabet than B is? 😛
👍
i like asrock motherboard design 3 pcie ssd , 1 wifi solt
Which ASRock motherboard exactly, I'm planning soon to get one for 7800x3d gaming only?
This mobo is just a pain in the *ss.
why is that?
I will pass on this board already have what I need Mike! Besides I’m not a fan of am5!
Yeah me neither. That might change in time....will see?
Why do they even make such a boring generic mobo???
Because it is reliable powerful and inexpensive which is very tempting for a lot of people
Am I the only one having a nightmare time with this mobo?
it is sometimes sensitive to CPU cooler mounting pressure
wdym?
i only buy asus!!!
i can tell that by your username :-)
@@mikesunboxing LOL