I think this is my favorite DEHH review. Being in some random public location, Myke running around in the background, the sandwich, Rod acting like Riley w/ Thugnificient from Boondocks, it's just perfect.
I miss when they were just in random ass locations, it makes me feel like they’re just in their normal days and then they randomly just pause and are like “shit, we gotta record a review” it’s great
I gotta say. Megan did an amazing job behind the camera. Very well done. She really captured the emotions of all the members simultaneously and effortlessly. Nice job Megan.
The thing Jay and Em have in common with they new albums is that both really lacked on what the other didn't. Em killed lyrics but SUCKED with production while Jay had the dope production but lazy lyrics.
if eminem used the mchg beats with the same lyrics, mmlp2 would be a CLASSIC. em needs to do something with timbaland, pharell, kanye, etc. I feel like they would really re amp his career
I agree, but Jay has one of the most consistent discography of all time, a few weak links but he's more apt at creating a consistent and enjoyable project than Eminem. Eminem has 2 genuinely great albums (all this is my opinion, it's cool if you disagree) and those are MMLP and The Eminem Show. SSLP is a solid album but less cohesive in comparison to the other 2, so to compare Jay to Eminem doesn't make sense to me. It's more surprising when Jay drops a weak project than Eminem, because in my honest opinion Eminem hasn't been on his A game for a while, in terms of creating a solid album- not lyrically! Anyway, peace.
And that's why MMLP 2 to me is a better album...because you can have mediocre beats and it still be a dope album...but if you have mediocre lyrics, it really loses luster for me at least. And as for the comparison between Jay and Em's discography I feel like it's closer than you think at least to me because the only wack Eminem album was Encore...I like relapse and Recovery, and MMLP 2 all are pretty good albums but both have 3 classics and Eminem's being MMLP, SSLP, and ES and Jay Z's being Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album...but this is all just subjective
Modest Media is making shit up to defend this bullshit album. I´m a JayZ fan but this album sounded like a better produced, more sophisticated Rick Ross project. Shit, this was more boring than Rick Ross shit
Feefo at 15:37 "why are you holding him to this standard?" Because its Jay-Z...i expect the guy who gave me Reasonable Doubt, Vol 1, Black Album, Blueprint and American Gangster to make a good album
Thank you Kinge and Myke, you guys nailed it. I'm sick of people letting Jay get away with not even being creative with what he puts out or being skillful/meaningful with his lyrics. I always consider what MCs like El-P, R.A the Rugged Man or Aesop Rock would be thinking when Jay gets called "lyrical".....
Replace BP2 with AG and u have the perfect pre-retirement Jay-Z discography; Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol. 1, Vol. 2, Vol. 3, The Blueprint, American Gangster, and The Black Album.
Love this conversation because it's same one rock n roll fans of The Stones or Springsteen had years ago. Jay isn't vital in hip hops musically anymore, but his discography makes it hard at first for fans to realize it. Still, like the Stones he can sell out venues and have successful tours..but you don't go to hear new shit. Honestly it's a credit to him to have reached that level. .The 1st in rap history to do it.
At this point Jay-Z's MCHG is motivation and role model shit. I could care less about his topics and lyricism because there too repetitive/ kind of lazy.
I like how Nas matured as an artist and did the "Life is Good". Jay Z tries to stay relevant by using sounds rather than being confident enough to mature as an artist and make grown man music. That's what Kin is saying.
I appreciate you putting your input in. I know a lot of others along with me would enjoy you discussing your opinion on reviews in the future. I enjoyed the whole video and can appreciate everybody's opinions.
I wish people would back off lyrics and actually just enjoy the music cuz at the end of the day its art and you don't have to listen to it if you don't know
I partially agree with Kinge. Being in a different place might excuse your different subject matter, but that doesn't mean you can get away with doing it weakly.
Music is art just like any other artforms. it can be different things, though. there are movies like the avengers which are fun and flashy and awesome. but movies like clockwork orange which are deep and thought provoking. same with music. why do we have to choose? we can have both.
This is by far the most constructive review of this album that i've heard all year and i thank each and every one of your brothas for breaking it down to the people. Now, let me offer my take on it from the perspective of a sista and the responsibility of Hip Hop culture to its listeners. First, i have a MAJOR issue with a grown man (age 44 to be specific) attempting to maintain relevancy by showcasing little to no growth as an artist and STILL speaking about redundant issues(we know ya got money) akin to his 18 year old self (please view Reasonable Doubt). Second, i agree with the statement about Jay can actually do better than this attempt at an album that brings mediocrity to a whole new standard. Last but not least, i have a strong concern with the concepts, ideas and symbolism surrounding this album. To give you a gist of where i am going with this, the album title: Magna Carta. This is a document conceived by the British ruling class and would be the legal framework for Western imperialism. Need i say more...i do not have time for double talk. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. How can you speak of being from the streets and have no intent to evolve your art to represent where you came from? "With a gift comes responsibility which must be used wisely." Nuff said.
Well he's not the only 44 year rapper that does that because majority of our favorite rappers are in their 40s now. Eminem, Nas, Snoop, Wu-Tang, Scarface and a few others. I see what you're saying him being a 44 year old rapper and being on top of the mainstream. A lot of people aspect a rapper from the 90s to not be on top anymore.
modest media: jay z feefo: jay z beezy: tribe called quest, black thought kinge: ice cube mike c town: ??? i got the sense that he likes em, biggie maybe big pun but is he anybody's stan?
I don't think the album itself is very bad, its just that young kids like Kendrick and Joey have raised the bar so high; they showed us what all can be done lyrically, sonically and production-wise. I don't think we hold jay to too high a standard I think l jay himself just doesn't realize that the bare has moved. Yes, dude is monster when he wants to be but.....
Man honestly I started listening to the album with absolutely no expectations. I went into it hoping to get a few tracks I really enjoy and hopefully an overall album that isn't too bad. I really enjoyed the album but I agree it wasn't that good.
Good point. I think this boils down to whether you like that mainstream sound or do you like an alternative sound. Jay-Z lyrically or musically did not stretch out on this album.
He scaled back on this album! If he decided not to use heavy lyrics in this album fine. He could have tackled the album from a minimalist approach which would fit perfectly with the art concept. I enjoyed the album but I have to agree with Ken and Mike he has the ability to do better. I am upset that Feffo held JCole to that standard and not J. I appreciate your opinions but it just seemed like a double standard.
Magna Carta Holy Grail wasn't one of his best overall project's but he does have one of the greatest musical catalogs in music history don't be disrespectful!
Lol you can't compare Jordan on the Wizards to Jay-Z right now. Basketball is a physical sport, and athletes losing their abilities in their early to mid thirties is a given. Making music isn't quite the same. Their are 40+ artists from various genres of music that can still make amazing albums regardless of their age.
Just let this man hold the camera. This video have to be as long as it had to be just because he doesnt know how to listen to people. He talks around himself.
Im a little offended at kinge's comment about the 19 year old raps at 13:10, im 19 to 20 years old and i dint ever write rhymes tge way jayz does, my mindset in writing rhymes is serious and dark, not trying to promote shit, i just feel like it needed to be said that as a 20 year old rapper myself im slightly baffled, no disrespect
All true. your point is valid and so was mine. The bottomline, no matter what, you arent gonna please everybody with the direction an album is taken. If he went super introspective then a group of people here would be saying "its boring" "why is he trying to preach now" "he's gotten too old for todays rap" "whos he think he is, i aint got time for all that" things along those lines nuknowit.
MODEST MEDIA! START IT!
Pp
Bruh
@@yeetjaylikesmusic4608 PooPoo
Ken has aged 20 years since this video.
JORDAN IN THE WIZARD'S JERSEY! STELLAR!
Stellar🤣
@@jaedencruz1002 oh thats u baby
Myke had me crackin up during this whole video. Especially when he was straight up trolling Rod lmaooo
Mike gives the best views because of his explanations and evidence
I think this is my favorite DEHH review. Being in some random public location, Myke running around in the background, the sandwich, Rod acting like Riley w/ Thugnificient from Boondocks, it's just perfect.
I miss when they were just in random ass locations, it makes me feel like they’re just in their normal days and then they randomly just pause and are like “shit, we gotta record a review” it’s great
I gotta say. Megan did an amazing job behind the camera. Very well done. She really captured the emotions of all the members simultaneously and effortlessly. Nice job Megan.
I think Jay could poop in a bucket and there would be at least TWO deluxe versions sold...
I'm dead.
Watch the Porcelain Throne
Can we all just agree that mikes sammich was better than Magna Carta
Facts
Feefo: So so so so so so
ZZZ HipHop Ferro is mad boring
Odefe Football ur hella gay
@@odefeoberabor7597 FEEFO not FERRO! #TheMoreYouKnow 👍
@@bigjohnboatright3811 r and f are close on the keyboard but go off after 5years 🤣👌
@@odefeoberabor7597 I'M DEAD!!! 💀💀💀
The thing Jay and Em have in common with they new albums is that both really lacked on what the other didn't. Em killed lyrics but SUCKED with production while Jay had the dope production but lazy lyrics.
if eminem used the mchg beats with the same lyrics, mmlp2 would be a CLASSIC. em needs to do something with timbaland, pharell, kanye, etc. I feel like they would really re amp his career
I agree, but Jay has one of the most consistent discography of all time, a few weak links but he's more apt at creating a consistent and enjoyable project than Eminem. Eminem has 2 genuinely great albums (all this is my opinion, it's cool if you disagree) and those are MMLP and The Eminem Show. SSLP is a solid album but less cohesive in comparison to the other 2, so to compare Jay to Eminem doesn't make sense to me. It's more surprising when Jay drops a weak project than Eminem, because in my honest opinion Eminem hasn't been on his A game for a while, in terms of creating a solid album- not lyrically! Anyway, peace.
Yessirr you right on that. Jays has some bad albums but there still some joints you can fuck with.
I agree.
And that's why MMLP 2 to me is a better album...because you can have mediocre beats and it still be a dope album...but if you have mediocre lyrics, it really loses luster for me at least. And as for the comparison between Jay and Em's discography I feel like it's closer than you think at least to me because the only wack Eminem album was Encore...I like relapse and Recovery, and MMLP 2 all are pretty good albums but both have 3 classics and Eminem's being MMLP, SSLP, and ES and Jay Z's being Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album...but this is all just subjective
Rod - "I didn't get this on Reasonable Doubt."
Myke - "Lucky You Didn't."
😂😂😂😂😂
the thumbnail look like beezy in prison
lmao "let me get the tracklist up...cuz i didnt memorize this bullshit"- myke
haha at 13:30, Myke would make an awesome Hypeman
lmfaoooo
Modest media dude lost all relevance when he said the nirvana sample in holy grail was dope are FUCKING KDDING ME
austin215 uhm, I think it was. I was sort of like ''DAMN!'' when I heard Justin singing it. It was a cool touch
+Batman _ BECAUSE YOURE BATMAN
DistantProjects BECAUSE I'M BATMAN
Yeah, I thought that was a weird sample.
***** I love Pusha T too, he's fantastic
Modest Media is making shit up to defend this bullshit album. I´m a JayZ fan but this album sounded like a better produced, more sophisticated Rick Ross project. Shit, this was more boring than Rick Ross shit
Feefo at 15:37 "why are you holding him to this standard?"
Because its Jay-Z...i expect the guy who gave me Reasonable Doubt, Vol 1, Black Album, Blueprint and American Gangster to make a good album
Thank you Kinge and Myke, you guys nailed it. I'm sick of people letting Jay get away with not even being creative with what he puts out or being skillful/meaningful with his lyrics. I always consider what MCs like El-P, R.A the Rugged Man or Aesop Rock would be thinking when Jay gets called "lyrical".....
17:03 started off the best opinion on Jay
Myke Dancing = Funniest Moment in DEHH history.
That sh!t is hilarious
I still listen to LIFE IS GOOD..
"Your idols are really losing their flair, aren't they?" - Myke
😆😆
Rod was in reverse cowgirl the whole video
YOOOOO!!!!!!
Rod is a Jay-Z Stan plain and simple. Jay was extremely lazy on this album.
modest media is such a stan whenever he made an excuse for Jay-z i had to role my eyes
Lol what did ya'll "learn" from Blueprint?? That album wasn't all that deep it just sounded great really.
Georgiaboy2016 exactly.. That's my favorite HOV album
man we need more modest media, he's a neat devil's advocate
Y'all niggas cuss Eminem for working with pop artists, all the time, but if Jay Z does it with Justin Timberlake , its brilliant.
I haven't enjoyed a whole Jay Z album since The Black Album. Do you really want to hear my opinion? Ok....2/10.
Didn't like American Gangster?
Jay Romeo Now that you say that, I guess like it, but no where near old Jay Z
Replace BP2 with AG and u have the perfect pre-retirement Jay-Z discography; Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol. 1, Vol. 2, Vol. 3, The Blueprint, American Gangster, and The Black Album.
I wanna hear what you saying after 4.44 ????
@@ogbmt FACTS!!!
the guy with the blue shirt and the beard is a TOTAL jay-z stan
Rod AKA Modest Media & i'm also a Jay-Z stan!
Love this conversation because it's same one rock n roll fans of The Stones or Springsteen had years ago. Jay isn't vital in hip hops musically anymore, but his discography makes it hard at first for fans to realize it. Still, like the Stones he can sell out venues and have successful tours..but you don't go to hear new shit. Honestly it's a credit to him to have reached that level. .The 1st in rap history to do it.
Kinge's review was too funny haha
Modest definitely would die for Jay Z
These guys are great to listen to ! Honest opinions and witty banter. Love it.
I love that I get recommended for all these dope DEHH videos! Legendary
Modest media trys his hardest to damage control Jay Z LMAO, if this album didn't have the Jay z name you would b trashing this LOL.
Modest Media , Jay Z's number one Stan.
Fast forward to 2017 and Ken was right about Jay Z
Ken is right most of the time but people won’t admit it 🤷🏻♂️
Damn Beezy is that a holland shirt? Orange with the lion on it. Feels like you're repping the Netherlands. Make me feel proud as a dutch citizen.
Myke felt like he was the only one who made sense.
Kinge gave a "What I learned in Boating School is" list at the start lol
At this point Jay-Z's MCHG is motivation and role model shit.
I could care less about his topics and lyricism because there too
repetitive/ kind of lazy.
My favourite DEHH quote of all time “I think that my sandwich was better than this album”
Nice production, lazy lyrics.
Yeah sad but true but going back & listening to Magna Carta Holy Grail it's not trash but at the same time it's not his best either!
Beezy kinda look like pac
Thought I was the only one man lol
I like how Nas matured as an artist and did the "Life is Good". Jay Z tries to stay relevant by using sounds rather than being confident enough to mature as an artist and make grown man music. That's what Kin is saying.
Nice camera work, intern. (better than modestmedia at some points xD)
Nice review as always guys.
The album was trash.. It sounds like what new artists rap, all beats nothing really crazy about it honestly...
I appreciate you putting your input in. I know a lot of others along with me would enjoy you discussing your opinion on reviews in the future. I enjoyed the whole video and can appreciate everybody's opinions.
"Oceans" has the most meaning
I wish people would back off lyrics and actually just enjoy the music cuz at the end of the day its art and you don't have to listen to it if you don't know
13:15 This nigga Myke trapping though xD lmfao much love
Dope to see yall getting worked up in the discussion. Been long since i saw that on the show
Myke trolling his ass off 😂
Hah, y'all are right in front of my parking deck. I was like 2 buildings away from y'all that day
Mike at 13:17 lolololol
I partially agree with Kinge. Being in a different place might excuse your different subject matter, but that doesn't mean you can get away with doing it weakly.
It's amazing learning something new about myself. That's why I enjoy watching their reviews even though I always disagree with them. :)
Give Nas this level of production and we will have the modern classic we are hungry for.
That guy on the right seems to have some creepish obsession for Jay-Z.
You mean the cameraman/editor for damn near every DEHH review? Yeah, "that guy on the right"
Music is art just like any other artforms. it can be different things, though.
there are movies like the avengers which are fun and flashy and awesome.
but movies like clockwork orange which are deep and thought provoking.
same with music. why do we have to choose? we can have both.
Is Modest Media rocking a fucking calculator watch?
Man you guys should've uploaded the whole hour of raw footage. I could listen to you guys talk hip hop for days.
Pretty disappointing album. Not a lot of replay value. Jay better than this lyrically.
DJG2287 not a HOV fan but this album is amazing. Especially the beats they're so amazing
Elie Bomana Exactly! The beats are cool. Jay's rapping is pathetic. It seems like he has run out of lyrics.
Burg Skeletal nope 4:44 proved you wrong
@@myname8635 FACTS!!! 💯
10:27 I can see why Modest is always behind the camera.
Jay Z fans are so bad
CHILL OUT BRO!!! 😒
Awesome to see modest media full time giving his opinions, he sounded great in this review, overall nice review and im not high about this album
I think this album is dope idk where yall coming off with "decent", these beats are amazing
FACTS!!! 💯
Jus the production was good overall this album is wack
Man you guys make some great videos. Love all the back and forths and contrasting viewpoints.
"It's like watching Michael Jordan in a Wizard's jersey." Sums up current Jay perfectly
coming back to this video Rod is way too biased to jay z he's gonna argue anything he does is good.
God y'all are so funny
This is by far the most constructive review of this album that i've heard all year and i thank each and every one of your brothas for breaking it down to the people. Now, let me offer my take on it from the perspective of a sista and the responsibility of Hip Hop culture to its listeners. First, i have a MAJOR issue with a grown man (age 44 to be specific) attempting to maintain relevancy by showcasing little to no growth as an artist and STILL speaking about redundant issues(we know ya got money) akin to his 18 year old self (please view Reasonable Doubt). Second, i agree with the statement about Jay can actually do better than this attempt at an album that brings mediocrity to a whole new standard. Last but not least, i have a strong concern with the concepts, ideas and symbolism surrounding this album. To give you a gist of where i am going with this, the album title: Magna Carta. This is a document conceived by the British ruling class and would be the legal framework for Western imperialism. Need i say more...i do not have time for double talk. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. How can you speak of being from the streets and have no intent to evolve your art to represent where you came from? "With a gift comes responsibility which must be used wisely." Nuff said.
Well he's not the only 44 year rapper that does that because majority of our favorite rappers are in their 40s now. Eminem, Nas, Snoop, Wu-Tang, Scarface and a few others. I see what you're saying him being a 44 year old rapper and being on top of the mainstream. A lot of people aspect a rapper from the 90s to not be on top anymore.
modest media: jay z
feefo: jay z
beezy: tribe called quest, black thought
kinge: ice cube
mike c town: ???
i got the sense that he likes em, biggie maybe big pun but is he anybody's stan?
El-P
+Waseem Jaas Atmosphere
Myke C-Town loves El-P.
Brother Ali & Aesop Rock too
Death grips
Great review. Especially C-Town. I think you guys should review Joey Badass's mixtape that came out on the 1st, Summer Knights
Watching in 2020, anniversary of Biggie’s passing. “Only Christopher we acknowledge is Wallace”✊🏾
"I don't even like Washington's in my pocket" 🎤 🐐
Myke is who i agree with the most ,great review myke
MMLP2 shits on MCHG
Both aren't very good.
MrOverlordGiygas
MMLP2 is way better then MCHG imo. You cant even compare them lyrically.
Edge Lyrically sure. Musically neither thrill me.
Both booty
I don't think the album itself is very bad, its just that young kids like Kendrick and Joey have raised the bar so high; they showed us what all can be done lyrically, sonically and production-wise. I don't think we hold jay to too high a standard I think l jay himself just doesn't realize that the bare has moved. Yes, dude is monster when he wants to be but.....
I agree with my man in the blue shirt 100% while everybody tryna dissect and find something wrong
Crazy how if you listen to this now, it hits so much different from before.😫🔥
ya the production is timeless
i just wish ANYONE else was rapping over it
This album was fucking wack but Jay-Z blind lovers love it
Man honestly I started listening to the album with absolutely no expectations. I went into it hoping to get a few tracks I really enjoy and hopefully an overall album that isn't too bad. I really enjoyed the album but I agree it wasn't that good.
This album is jay z at like 10 % I wanna hear blueprint jay at least
Good point. I think this boils down to whether you like that mainstream sound or do you like an alternative sound. Jay-Z lyrically or musically did not stretch out on this album.
I listend to the album but didnt remember any of lyrics becuase i fell asleep, cause Its soooo BORING
He scaled back on this album! If he decided not to use heavy lyrics in this album fine. He could have tackled the album from a minimalist approach which would fit perfectly with the art concept. I enjoyed the album but I have to agree with Ken and Mike he has the ability to do better. I am upset that Feffo held JCole to that standard and not J. I appreciate your opinions but it just seemed like a double standard.
I've never liked Jay-Z ever. And this album just made me dislike his music even more. By the way that dude Modest Media is such a Jay-Z homer.
Magna Carta Holy Grail wasn't one of his best overall project's but he does have one of the greatest musical catalogs in music history don't be disrespectful!
Lol you can't compare Jordan on the Wizards to Jay-Z right now. Basketball is a physical sport, and athletes losing their abilities in their early to mid thirties is a given. Making music isn't quite the same. Their are 40+ artists from various genres of music that can still make amazing albums regardless of their age.
Just let this man hold the camera. This video have to be as long as it had to be just because he doesnt know how to listen to people. He talks around himself.
I LOVE YOUR REVIEWS SO DAMN MUCH
This forces you to have an opinion
Im a little offended at kinge's comment about the 19 year old raps at 13:10, im 19 to 20 years old and i dint ever write rhymes tge way jayz does, my mindset in writing rhymes is serious and dark, not trying to promote shit, i just feel like it needed to be said that as a 20 year old rapper myself im slightly baffled, no disrespect
Yeezus watch the throne maga cater holy grail all trash
whyd you add kanye in there in a video about jay lol
Only one of them even comes close to being "trash". And we all know it's not the one talked about in this video
Hater
Daniel Hill I was not in my right mind when I wrote that. American Gangster is definitely better than Yeezus.
LMAO Maga cater
All true. your point is valid and so was mine. The bottomline, no matter what, you arent gonna please everybody with the direction an album is taken. If he went super introspective then a group of people here would be saying "its boring" "why is he trying to preach now" "he's gotten too old for todays rap" "whos he think he is, i aint got time for all that" things along those lines nuknowit.
4:44 brought me here. This album was garbage lets all just admit now.
Dylan Chadderton not garbage just completely average
Magna Carta Holy Grail was the prelude to 4:44!
Review Greenhouse (Illogic & Blueprint) - Bend But Don't Break.
Also, it's a shame you guys didn't review Illogic's album "Capture the Sun"....
blueprint 1 is best jigga album
Wheel Smith Reasonable Doubt is his best album.
NOPE
Oh hell yeah blue print 1 was bomb! So many great tracks. For reasonable doubt there's only dead presidents 2 and can't knock the hustle
DEHH should do a review on one of Nino Bless' albums/mixtapes. his lyrics are unreal.