What an interesting title for the video since everyone should know that the top of the flange should be between 1/4" and 3/8" above the finished floor...which basically means the flange sits on top the finished floor. In this video he cuts the tile away from the flange when really it's supposed to be underneath it.
That’s the first thing I noticed and what you said is the proper procedure. My dad was a pipe fitter and I’m a subcontractor myself, seen a few jobs where it was done this way and it had rotted the subfloor from water leaking around the drain after each flush.
He is absolutely correct. Choose says the flange go on top of the finished surface. It should be 1/4 to 1/2 above. Anyone disagreeing is a hack. Read code. Learn your trade.
But how do you get the flange to stick above the finished tile? (I’m about to rule my bathroom so that’s why I’m asking) If the tile is put down and it’s flush with the flange how the heck do you make the flange higher than the tile? I don’t get it. And when you say flange that’s the blue circle around the drain in the video right?
There's a brand new invention out that eliminates the need to cut a circular cut in the tiles around the flange. It's called the Toilet Flange Tile Guide, and it's pretty amazing. Saves a ton of time, plus it forms a mechanical bond around the flange sealing and protecting that area from future water damage like was never before provided. Awesome invention. Maybe you could do a new video using it?
I searched for this video to get answers and you have helped me a lot as well as the comments given below. What do you think about the flange being at least 1/4" above the tiles? It makes sense so there is tight bond between the ring wax and the tiles surface ?
This is actually a tip I could use I see so many goofy things people are doing that really are wrong all I got to worry about is I hope I don't drop that stick down that drain other than that that's a good idea that I can use thank you
Remove the flange or get a plumber to do it if its cast iron leaded to an iron pipe. Tile, then have a plumber put in the flange with oakum n lead so it sits on top of the tile..or use a twist and set flange. The toilet flange should sit on top of the finished floor.
I keep a spare brass flange in with my tile tools. I put the tile over the flange on the floor, then match my brass flange on top and trace around it. No need futz around with sticks and a compass.
how did you decide what to set the compass at while marking that arc? makes no sense. You didnt show yourself putting it on the centre of the stick and moving it to length by eye (if that's what you did) or measuring the gap
xFracture you’ll want to give yourself about a quarter inch or greater gap when installing tile around any type of edge as concrete expands and contracts thus shifting tile, if your tile is tight against say a wall’s floor plate, it will eventually buckle or crack your tile. Also, you’ll want your toilet flange sitting atop your new floor, not beside like he does here.👍🏽
Spacers...I've been on professional crews all over the midwest. If you try to use spacers rather than a proper grid you'll get run off the site. Spacers...
You use spacers AND a grid. If you didn't use spacers when I hired you to tile my floor, you'd get run off MY site and wouldn't get paid. This is a HORRIBLE tile job.
Spacers are for amateurs. Most tiles aren’t even the same size so if you used spacers for every tile the lines would eventually be off. You need a combination of spacers for some areas plus the eye to make sure everything stays straight. It’s not a like a level where if it says level than its good
John Smith learn to spell before calling someone a moron👍🏽 and regardless of a wax ring, water will eventually escape around the outside of the pipe. My dad’s a retired civil service pipe fitter and has always used 2 wax rings.
decent tile work for as author calls "primitive " floor look (3:47). Flange ,however ,looks to be new and thus why not remove the flange and reinsert over new tile, not under it, so it can be at 'code' height on top of tile to allow toilet flange to recess INTO IT for good seal ? (there are wax and vinyl toilet seals that are extra thick , more than 1 ", if proper flange height is not possible but a no-leak future is NOT as certain). PS. Researching for all parts of tile install is easier than making repairs later . Google and UTUBE are ' fountains' of info .
the flange is placed on top of finished floor. (if there was no tile just 1/16 " vinyl flooring placed over concrete would you chisel out the concrete ? NO . I am not a plumber but every plumber I know gives this as the how to do it . (if the flange does not rise a 1/4" at least above finished floor the toilet seal ring cannot do it' s function ) PS. checkout my video on the reinvented wheel (it's not square, MORON ?)
Flange height. Look at the thickness of the wax ring. It`s about one-half inch. Then look at the recess, on the bottom of a toilet bowl. That wax ring has to go between the top of the flange, and the depth of the recess. About one-half inch. Flange too high, wax ring squishes out too much. Flange too low, not a good seal. I always try to dry fit the bowl, after the mud sets for awhile. This way, your more likely to a get a flatter base, for the toilet to rest on, otherwise you can get a rocker. If the flange is above the tile, it may be a little too high. A lot of these jobs vary, so should each application.
Hello, I am a Moroccan citizen. I have a diploma in ceramics 6 years in this field .. I hope to find work outside my country because the rent here is very low and I am a poor person
The plumber should not set the flange until after the tile is placed. This video shows the correct way ruclips.net/video/HiDIcFka2K0/видео.html As a professional tile setter, I would call the plumber back to do the job right.
Why is everyone trying to cut a perfect hole around the toilet flange when the toilet will cover most of that up? All you need is for the sides to be tight with a rectangle.
The man that taught me the business said that if I ever use spacers on the floor I was fired never did never will spacers are four walls so they don't sag you stay on your line and that's it if you need to use spacers go to McDonald's and flip burgers
The man taught you to do a half-assed tile job. I have to tile my own bathroom because of people just like you. You show me a picture of how you stayed "on your line" without spacers. You're saving time and money at the expense of quality and that's why it's so hard for homeowners to find a decent contractor. You can do it in a fraction of the time, but my work is better because I care about quality and you don't. And then you come on here with your self-righteous attitude. Go flip your own burgers. And what's wrong with working at McDonald's anyway? They take their job at least as seriously as you do.
just because a hack taught you, doesn't mean it was correct. I've seen that same thing in many trades. "well, this is how i was taught", yeah? well you were taught wrong.
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What an interesting title for the video since everyone should know that the top of the flange should be between 1/4" and 3/8" above the finished floor...which basically means the flange sits on top the finished floor. In this video he cuts the tile away from the flange when really it's supposed to be underneath it.
Cougar Land correct
cougar...that's too high....add the wax ring and yout toilet will teeter totter
That’s the first thing I noticed and what you said is the proper procedure. My dad was a pipe fitter and I’m a subcontractor myself, seen a few jobs where it was done this way and it had rotted the subfloor from water leaking around the drain after each flush.
He is absolutely correct. Choose says the flange go on top of the finished surface. It should be 1/4 to 1/2 above. Anyone disagreeing is a hack. Read code. Learn your trade.
But how do you get the flange to stick above the finished tile? (I’m about to rule my bathroom so that’s why I’m asking)
If the tile is put down and it’s flush with the flange how the heck do you make the flange higher than the tile? I don’t get it. And when you say flange that’s the blue circle around the drain in the video right?
Excellent video! One of the most articulately explaned videos i've seen!^^
Love that compass idea have to admit never seen that before,very clever and thanks ,i will deffo take that on board,
There's a brand new invention out that eliminates the need to cut a circular cut in the tiles around the flange. It's called the Toilet Flange Tile Guide, and it's pretty amazing. Saves a ton of time, plus it forms a mechanical bond around the flange sealing and protecting that area from future water damage like was never before provided. Awesome invention. Maybe you could do a new video using it?
thanks for the video. home improvement can be ado it yourself project. pride in knowing you did it yourself. not to mention the savings
I searched for this video to get answers and you have helped me a lot as well as the comments given below.
What do you think about the flange being at least 1/4" above the tiles? It makes sense so there is tight bond between the ring wax and the tiles surface ?
What year is this video from 1984? Good tips though. Except I like the tile flange to sit 1/4 inch above the finish floor.
This is actually a tip I could use I see so many goofy things people are doing that really are wrong all I got to worry about is I hope I don't drop that stick down that drain other than that that's a good idea that I can use thank you
Awesome video Thank you
very well done, thank you.
Remove the flange or get a plumber to do it if its cast iron leaded to an iron pipe. Tile, then have a plumber put in the flange with oakum n lead so it sits on top of the tile..or use a twist and set flange. The toilet flange should sit on top of the finished floor.
thanks doing my first bathroom,!
great idea with wood stick and compass! super easy and fast
I keep a spare brass flange in with my tile tools. I put the tile over the flange on the floor, then match my brass flange on top and trace around it. No need futz around with sticks and a compass.
dave, you could easily eyeball it with a sharpie or pencil. Toilet hides the cuts so they don't have to be perfect.
Nice work on the total bathroom. And for everyone else he is not the plumber and the sell air-tight spacers to fix the flange height.
how did you decide what to set the compass at while marking that arc? makes no sense. You didnt show yourself putting it on the centre of the stick and moving it to length by eye (if that's what you did) or measuring the gap
xFracture you’ll want to give yourself about a quarter inch or greater gap when installing tile around any type of edge as concrete expands and contracts thus shifting tile, if your tile is tight against say a wall’s floor plate, it will eventually buckle or crack your tile. Also, you’ll want your toilet flange sitting atop your new floor, not beside like he does here.👍🏽
Great video! But man who choose that tile!??
Just curious: Shouldn’t the Toilet Flange rest on top of the tiles?
thanks for the comment
Yes it should
@@LayTiles funny you don’t answer because you did it wrong
boy I bet that tile looks like 1970 today!!!
very good
Good for the most part but you didn't use spacers and the tiles don't look uniform. OCD people would go nuts.
Spacers...I've been on professional crews all over the midwest. If you try to use spacers rather than a proper grid you'll get run off the site. Spacers...
And the toilet flange was too low. The tile should have been under the flange.
You use spacers AND a grid. If you didn't use spacers when I hired you to tile my floor, you'd get run off MY site and wouldn't get paid. This is a HORRIBLE tile job.
He commented on not using spacers. They wanted the primitive look.
Spacers are for amateurs. Most tiles aren’t even the same size so if you used spacers for every tile the lines would eventually be off. You need a combination of spacers for some areas plus the eye to make sure everything stays straight.
It’s not a like a level where if it says level than its good
How to cut tile around toilet flange
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The bottom of the ring touches top of finished floor. ONLY!
Nice technique. Unfortunately that toilet will assuredly leak as the flange is too low
Depends on what type of wax ring you use.
John Smith learn to spell before calling someone a moron👍🏽 and regardless of a wax ring, water will eventually escape around the outside of the pipe. My dad’s a retired civil service pipe fitter and has always used 2 wax rings.
Gentry Carlson no, do the job right the first time and don’t get call backs, very simple pal.
I know guys who would cement around toilet space and level it , then put white paint on it ,to avoid cutting the tiles in that shape
great video he did it perfect
No he didn't. The flange should be on top of the tile.
decent tile work for as author calls "primitive " floor look (3:47). Flange ,however ,looks to be new and thus why not remove the flange and reinsert over new tile, not under it, so it can be at 'code' height on top of tile to allow toilet flange to recess INTO IT for good seal ? (there are wax and vinyl toilet seals that are extra thick , more than 1 ", if proper flange height is not possible but a no-leak future is NOT as certain).
PS. Researching for all parts of tile install is easier than making repairs later . Google and UTUBE are ' fountains' of info .
NO, code height for toilet flange , moron. SMH
my point exactly , on top not level with . (do you always finish a comment with a personal attack ?)
How can you have the flange on top of the tiles but at the same time recessed into it as you described Harry sir?
Herman, Harry proved he knows NOTHING about construction...Next he will re-invent the wheel...MORON
the flange is placed on top of finished floor. (if there was no tile just 1/16 " vinyl flooring placed over concrete would you chisel out the concrete ? NO .
I am not a plumber but every plumber I know gives this as the how to do it . (if the flange does not rise a 1/4" at least above finished floor the toilet seal ring cannot do it' s function )
PS. checkout my video on the reinvented wheel (it's not square, MORON ?)
Flange height. Look at the thickness of the wax ring. It`s about one-half inch. Then look at the recess, on the bottom of a toilet bowl. That wax ring has to go between the top of the flange, and the depth of the recess. About one-half inch. Flange too high, wax ring squishes out too much. Flange too low, not a good seal. I always try to dry fit the bowl, after the mud sets for awhile. This way, your more likely to a get a flatter base, for the toilet to rest on, otherwise you can get a rocker. If the flange is above the tile, it may be a little too high. A lot of these jobs vary, so should each application.
check each application.
Use them all the time. Never seen a " rocker ". Somebody else said to put tile, under the flange. Not me. Wake me, when this is all over.
I would`t know.. I`m not an expert.
wish i wasnt a moron with geometry lol
Why wouldn't you spend $2.50 on tile spacers? That kills me
Hello, I am a Moroccan citizen. I have a diploma in ceramics 6 years in this field .. I hope to find work outside my country because the rent here is very low and I am a poor person
"KNIPPERS".
The plumber should not set the flange until after the tile is placed. This video shows the correct way ruclips.net/video/HiDIcFka2K0/видео.html As a professional tile setter, I would call the plumber back to do the job right.
I think this video should be titled "How to tile around a toilet flange."
But the flange was too low. The tile should have been under the flange.
Why is everyone trying to cut a perfect hole around the toilet flange when the toilet will cover most of that up? All you need is for the sides to be tight with a rectangle.
thanks for the comment
Thats the wrong way to trowel mortar. The lines need to be uniform and in 1 direction for proper tile contact
yOU CAN USE A JIGSAW, WITH A CARBIDE BLADE.
Always works for me. Really, you can use anything that will do the job.
Whatever you say. But I think I`v been doing this a lot longer than you have. Sorry about that.
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Flange. lol.
flange should be above top floor only! also mistitled video
The man that taught me the business said that if I ever use spacers on the floor I was fired never did never will spacers are four walls so they don't sag you stay on your line and that's it if you need to use spacers go to McDonald's and flip burgers
The man taught you to do a half-assed tile job. I have to tile my own bathroom because of people just like you. You show me a picture of how you stayed "on your line" without spacers. You're saving time and money at the expense of quality and that's why it's so hard for homeowners to find a decent contractor. You can do it in a fraction of the time, but my work is better because I care about quality and you don't. And then you come on here with your self-righteous attitude. Go flip your own burgers. And what's wrong with working at McDonald's anyway? They take their job at least as seriously as you do.
just because a hack taught you, doesn't mean it was correct. I've seen that same thing in many trades. "well, this is how i was taught", yeah? well you were taught wrong.
Thomas Norton spacers are inexpensive, and save time, plus wet thinset can shift tile and if you use spacers, ya guessed it, no shift.
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