How To Install A Toilet Flange Extension Kit - Master Plumber Extension Kit
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Great video, but I couldn't hear some of the information because of the background music. Just a couple times. Thanks for the helpful vid.
We have been told that before about this video. Sorry for that. Happy to help though, thanks for watching.
I could hear nice and clear.
@@irvingjon87 Which type of wax ring did he say he wanted to use so he was leaving it flush? I don't know which one he is talking about maybe the extra which type?
Just a tip- no need for music in the background!
Ya we don’t use music anymore. Sorry
@beedickinme The fact that you needed to say your stupid response about music means that you are just a douche bag. Play music to that!
would have been nice to see you install the first couple of stages how you secured the up facing two screws! Perhaps you show it in an earlier video??
Thanks for this wonderful idea bro, I’m planning to DIY, my washroom, tile over tiles, which I expect it to be a fraction lower. With your expertise I’m able to do it, keep up the great work of sharing.
Happy to help!
Thanks for the clear video. If you need to eventually remove the bolts do you have to take off the spacer? I can't see how they would come out otherwise. Thanks again.
Happy to help! Yes you would need to remove the spacer to remove the bolts.
Thanks! Good stuff. The flooring guys told me I need to get a plumber in...but hey, I can do that. I actually liked the music too. Was wondering what kind of drill it was.
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
Excellent video! One of the most articulately explaned videos i've seen!
+주식회사한길글로벌 Thank you!
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@@ThePlumbingGurus except for the title: It should be "too low"
Thanks for the video. Very helpful tips.
Quick question: I notice the bolts go in the notch in the spacer.
The original flange I have has the larger slots to slide the bolt in and out.
If the bolts need changed later, how can they be removed from the spacer notches?
I assume they would be in both the original flange slots and the spacer notches.
Thanks.
You can just unscrew the spacer flange and replace the bolts. Then just reinstall the spacer. You would want to scrape of any old silicone and re silicone it though. Hope this helps, thanks for watchng
@@ThePlumbingGurus Thanks for the quick response and help.
It's always very kind when people with knowledge like you share it.
Great videos.
Happy to help!
This was super helpful. I almost skipped the silicone step. Really glad I watched this. Thanks!
@@ThePlumbingGurus after i install my 2x8s do i put underlayment on next and what kind??
Thanks for the helpful video. Unfortunately I installed two spacers, but didn’t use the included silicone. Do I need to open it again and use silicone between each one?
Without silicone, It could leak between two spacers
yes its a good idea to use silicone between the flanges
Yes im dealing with this now. New home and plumbers uses these stupid spacers and its been leaking between the two for awhile. These things are terrible. Get a NEXT danco perfect seal kit for flanges below the floor height or other extension kit on the market. Dont mess with these spacers.
I answered my own question below. While the 3 inch diameter discharge chute on the toilet bottom is even with the floor, the area on the bottom of the toilet where the way ring sits is from 3/4 inch to maybe one inch above the bottom of the toilet. So if the toilet flange coming out of the floor is even with the finished surface of the floor, there is 3/4 to 1 inch of space that needs to be filled by the wax ring.
Exactly , the flange needs to set on top of the tile
Hi. My original flange is metal or iron. Will I still be able to screw in my Oatley spacer into the floor or will the holes line up with the metal flange?
Just drill through the metal.
Great video 👍 what is proper flange height for tile floor? Is it flush to tile floor or can you go a little abover?
flange should be on top of the finished floor, so 1/8' to 1/4 inch commonly.
Thank you for the video appreciate it
You bet
Appreciate the work brotha. I dropped a like
Happy to help!
Hi! Thanks fir sharing. Great video! Question? What is the maximum a flange can be extended? I’m raising my floor 4”. Can you keep adding extenders?
As long as they’re siliconed and properly installed you should be fine. But it might be best to cut the pipe and raise it if it’s possible.
The Plumbing Gurus Excellent! Thank you SO much! I appreciate it. Tomorrow is the big day! I’ll let you know how it goes. Thanks again!
Awesome, good luck! Let us know
@@richstevenson1 howd it go?
@@cmull96 Thank you checking back with me! Yes! It worked! The floor was raised 4” and I was really concerned I’d have to call (pay) a professional. But your advice worked! Thank you again!!!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Hi. What size screws do you recommend for putting the spacer on? also, what silicon product do you recommend? Thanks!
I’m this case there was concrete under the original flange. So we used 1.25 because there was to flanges. If it’s wood underneath you can use longer ones. It will also depend on how many plates you are using too. Just measure the thickness of them and add and inch or so. As for silicone, you can use any kitchen and bath stuff. And long as it’s meant for water.
@@ThePlumbingGurus So you're screwing into to the concrete?
Is it okay to have the flange extender lip diameter slightly smaller than the original flange hole diameter?
How much smaller?
Always fill in the area around the flange! Silicon works some plumbers use mortar!
Wow We’ve never actually done that. But it’s a great idea, if it’s tile. Would definitely stop the water from going underneath or downstairs
@@ThePlumbingGurus 👍 those little cracks and crevices around the flange are magnets for moisture!
Good job!
Thank you!
Thanks big help
You betcha! Thanks for watching
Thank you for keeping it short and to the point everybody else’s videos are 10-20 minutes long
Definitely doesn’t need to be a long video. Thanks for watching
Please help me understand the geometry of the flange versus the bottom of the toilet bowl.
The bottom of the toilet discharge opening is even with the base of the toilet. If the flange is even with the floor, it would seem the wax ring would be smashed totally flat since there is then zero space between the bottom of the toilet opening and the top of the flange.
So since a wax ring is about an inch thick, why can't just a wax ring be used if the existing flange is less than an inch below the floor surface? Thanks. I have never understood why the flange needs to be so close to the floor level.
I've been wondering the same thing. If it's a quarter inch above the floor, the toilet has a quarter or half inch hole where the wax ring goes, wouldn't the toilet wobble?
The toilet has 3/4 in from its drain horn to the finished floor.
Good informative video...please drop the background music so we can hear you properly !
+Buddy Buddy thanks for watching.
Yea lots of people have said this. Thanks again
I AGREE. I don't need to be entertained by music. That's what Spotify is for. I need to clearly hear what you are saying. No music or much quieter. Thanks!
3:58 always drill pilot holes for these. You can hear the bottom flange crack
How many extensions can you add? I want to install 3/4 inch plywood over existing floor. How many extensions will I need?
I would not add more then 3 extensions. Try and make the extension come to the finished floor height.
I’m so subscribed
Thank you!
Have a cracked flange, can I put one of these on top
Absolutely, they also make repair flanges specifically for that. Same idea though
I like that bear in the background !
Haha thanks!
All most right needed grout or concrete
is that a PVC flange on cast iron or ABS pipe?
Abs pipe
My bolts are too short even though i am using the XL. what can i do?
Easy fix. You can get 3 inch bolts. That should fix it.
So it's ok that the finished floor and flange are at the same level using a traditional wax ring?
+KigMan01 yes it should be fine. You can join our face book group and send us pictures to confirm.
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Thanks for watching.
The plywood is rotted around my toilet flange. I tried wood filler and silicone and it didn’t workout. Should I cement the tile buddy to the tile if it is wide enough?
You mean the wax ring did not prevent that?
@@ericmaher4756 No however I took care of it. Thank you. IThe plywood is dry and concisely cover with wood putty smooth as ever. I just had to place a shimmy under the toilet afterwards. I appreciate your help.
Is there a flange that will fit inside 3" toilet drain pipe?
Yes there is. Best to go to your local hardware store and find one. Make sure it fits inside a 3” pipe.
Cannot find one here in Calgary, Alberta.
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@@boringman8673here in Toronto home depot, Lowe's , Rona all sell it.
I just removed my toilet and discover the flange is way too low and theymust have used two wax rings. Veritable mess. This video is great. Thank you
Awesome! Thanks for watching
Flange should typically sit on top of finish floor, no? Seems like second spacer should have been used.
We’ll generally you want the flange to be flush with finished. That way you can use a wax seal with a horn. If it’s on top then sometimes you can’t. And if it’s just a little below you can use a wax with horn and add one without to double it up. Or you can also get max wax seals that are thicker
You can judge by the way he applied sealant on what kind of expert/professional he is :)
Haha, thanks!
Is that really too low? Mine's about the same quarter of an inch below the tile but I figured the wax ring would create a seal and my new toilet would fit. Am I wrong? Wish I'd see you put the wax ring down on this.
If it’s below you can double up wax. The biggest thing is you should make sure when you put the toilet down. It is squishing into the wax a decent amount. This is just one of the ways to do it and to insure a proper seal
@@ThePlumbingGurus I'm pulling it off tomorrow. My old "Gerber" toilet doesn't flush well at all. BTW, just read that American Standard had a cracking problem with their "Champion" toilet a few years ago. Has that been resolved? Need a good flushing capability. Thanks for the help.
Great advice, but next time no music--it drowns out his voice. Thanks for good work!
+Fred T thanks for watching! And thanks for the tip
@@ThePlumbingGurus Great advice and clarity. I teach professional communication and you are spot-on excellent at it. Thanks also for considering the suggestion--another mark of a pro. I'm now getting into RUclips helpful advice videos--take a look at my "rope box" moving tip: ruclips.net/video/fq0yXVfB9nw/видео.html
I would have drilled pilot holes to make sure it doesn't crack.
Installed lots of these and never had one crack
no music please
I saw a vid where the guy used plumbers putty around that flange lip then he used silicone on the outside of the plumbers putty.
Is silicone better than plumbers putty?
Either or would work just fine. We would usually use silicone for this. But plumbers putty would work too.
@@ThePlumbingGurus thanks man
@@ThePlumbingGurus okay thank you! Ooooo one more quick question..
Can I just double nut the flange bolts instead of using screws to screw it down? The existing flange is already screwed to the wood subfloor.
Thanks man
Can’t you just use the taller seals made for that?
Yes you can. This is just another way to do it.
The plumbing code requires that the closet flange sits on top of the finish floor. What is the purpose of the caulking in this video? Unless all traces of wax are removed, Caulking will not bond & form a watertight seal. In many videos silicone / caulking is used in lieu of plumbers putty. Again, all traces of wax MUST be removed to provide a bond & seal
Codes are different everywhere you go. Makes more sense to have the flange flush with finish so you can use a wax seal with a horn.
Gods video but you definitely want the flange a bit above the finished floor so 2 rings was the better way , also NEVER double up the wax ring , it will leak most of the time , seen it with my own eyes , my boss with 40 years experience in the business saw it so much , that he make sure we never double it . Save yourself the trouble , add the extra ring .....
Do you need to glue the 2 plastic extenders together also or just glue the bottom one? What type of screws should I use?
@@rollinlikeariver7756 yes , silicone in between every ring , to keep water in in case of backing
Try not and use two wax rings if possible use extension as he is showing. I've had at least three toilets leak when two wax rings are used
Nice thanks for watching.
I agree 100 with you
Good video but the The background noise should go 😊
Working on it
O.K., silicone and not a gasket. Tightens screw a little at a time mo bettas. Thanks.
I love your content. If I can ask you, to please not have music, I need information, not music. it's really hard to concentrate with music in the background. Thanks for your understanding.
We stopped using music in our videos. Sorry for the inconvenience
@@ThePlumbingGurus Bless you🙏 Thanks.
Turn the music off. How are we suppose to hear or concentrate on the content??
Never cared for these, you have to make sure the original flange is super clean. I prefer the oatey 43400
Thanks for letting us know!
the sound volume is all over the place
We are working on a new video
❤. ⚠️ You mean TOO’ Low ⛔️
You betcha
The flange should always be above floor level
That’s not true at all. It’s fine being flush with the floor. Being above and sometimes cause the toilet to not sit properly
Flange should be flush above floor
Flange should be flush with floor. It can be above but can sometimes cause it to rock and you can’t use a wax seal with horn
Great video. PLEASE lose the music
We don’t use music anymore
Music is too loud
Thanks for wathcing
The sound sucks and it is hard to know what you are saying at times. For instance, I can't tell why you said you prefer a level surface as opposed to slightly raised.
Sorry for the inconvenience, we prefer it to be flush with finished floor because then you don’t have any issues with using a wax seal with horn.
@@ThePlumbingGurus Many thanks. Now, if only I can figure out what a wax seal that comes with a horn is...
Just google wax seal with horn
bgm too loud, can't hear you easily man
Sorry what’s BGM?
@@ThePlumbingGurus lol, background music
Very useful video, thank you, but it would have been much better (i.e., easier to follow your voice) without that irritating music. Just sayin'....
Sorry, we have stopped using musice
The music is very disturbing and interferes.
*too…the flange is TOO low. 🙄
Thanks for watching
Good video👍🏻
Background music 👎🏻
Ya sorry. We don’t use musics at all anymore. Rookie mistake
music very distracting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You seem very excited 😂 sorry for the inconvenience of the free content. We have learned our lesson and no longer use music in these tutorials. But lucky for you… it was free right? No harm done. Thanks for watching, hopefully we were able to help you
*too low
Thanks for watching
Background music the same level as your vocie = genius
Well as it turns out we’re plumbers and not videographers. We are working on our skills. Feedback is welcome but comments like this you can probably keep to yourself. It’s free content. You want professional content to pay for it
Music ridiculous. Good video overall.
Thanks for watching we don’t use music anymore
Decent video, but I'd lose the repetitive background music track. 1. It makes it too difficult to hear what you're saying, and 2. It's irritating.
Sorry we made this video along time ago. We don’t use music anymore
@@ThePlumbingGurus I didn’t mean to pile on with the music criticism. I should have first scanned through some of the other comments, where there was already lots of feedback on it.
❤. ⚠️ You mean ‘TOO’ Low ⛔️ Not ‘to’ low
Yes 👍🏾
These are for hacks. Don't install them. Buy an extended barrel flange and do it right.
Sounds like you should have a chat with the people that make this product.
We have never had a single call back or problem with this product.
TOO low?
Sorry what are you trying to say? Ours is to low?
You should consult the English language gurus. They will tell you the difference between “too” and “to”
Well we are plumbers....you must be really smart. Can you teach us ?
C”mon man, really, you need background music for working on a toilet flange? I couldn’t hang listen to chic a chic a bow bow while the plumber works on a toilet. Later...
+Dale H Well that’s one way to respond.
Thanks for watching!
“Too Low”.
Just sayin’
Flush is to low?? I’m sorry but it’s not
@@ThePlumbingGurus
It’s correctly spelled “too” ...
You spelled your title “To Low” Thought you should know, it’s not a criticism of your skills as a plumber.
Gotcha, thanks! We are plumbers for a reason lol
stop the music
We can’t now that we don’t have the original content of this video.
What’s the point of this video if you don’t want us to hear what you’re saying.
Good point.
We will be making a new video with no music
Turn the freakin music off if you really want people to pay attention, I couldn't watch past 1:16
Well good thing it was free. We have stopped using music in our videos. But unfortunately we can’t go back and remove it. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I would say don’t do any of this, people. Extenders will fail at some point. If you read the instructions for toilet flanges, Oatey anyways, it says best practice and recommendation is to install the flange ON TOP of the finished floor. Putting spacers with some silicone in between will fail at some point. Do it correctly the first time. Also, how can he just use random screws into that spacer and call it a day? I’m sure that whoever engineered that spacer put those holes in those spaces and at that size for a reason. If those spacers/flange fails, he basically filmed himself losing a lawsuit and who knows if his insurance will cover him. Even if you go on the premise that spacers are fine, that’s only if you use them the way they were intended. I’m sure I’m the instructions it doesn’t say, “use our pre made screw holes, but if you’re too lazy to do that, then make your own wherever….”
These extensions are for if you’re not redoing the flange and you need to extend it because someone raise the floor height to much or something. Clearly yes you should install the flange “correctly” the first time. This was not a scenario where the flange could’ve been installed higher. It was flush on the concrete and the floor was raised with infloor heating. There’s nothing wrong with these and they don’t fail.
You're out of your mind by suggesting to install the extender on top of the floor.
And by saying the proper way, you mean rip off the floor and raise the flange and charge thousands to home owner as a general contractor myself, I think you are a unethical plumber
Music sux!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very old video. We don’t do that anymore. But the content is still there. It was free for you 😂 guess you get what you pay for
Turn off the freakin' music. Couldn't watch.
Thanks for watching!!!
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Whhyyyy do people add the annoying loud music? I’ll never understand that.
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Lose the music
Thanks for watching
The plumbing code requires that the closet flange sits on top of the finish floor. What is the purpose of the caulking in this video? Unless all traces of wax are removed from existing closet flange, silicone / caulking will not bond & form a watertight seal. In many videos silicone / caulking is used in lieu of plumbers putty. Again, all traces of wax MUST be removed to provide a bond & seal
Not all codes are the same everywhere. So it might be that way where you are but there’s nothing in our code saying that. I’m not sure what you’re talking about for the wax. We would’ve cleaned off the wax before screwing the extension down.
@@ThePlumbingGurus When I say "clean off the wax", I mean all remnants of wax need to be removed. Some kind of solvent should get ti off. Caulk / silicone will not bond to flange if any trace of wax remains.
if your code has no flange placement provision, what are your suggestions for proper placement & why. Some Toto toilets require flange on top of finish floor so as to prevent leaks. No stacking of wax rings allowed. A separate warning sheet is included with the instructions