Toilet Flange Repair Using a Toilet Flange Extender (Step-by-Step)

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  • Toilet flange repair can be daunting but it can also be simple.
    Today you'll learn how to raise the height of a toilet flange using a toilet flange extender.
    For more home improvement tips visit www.homerepairtutor.com/👍🏼
    0:00 Toilet Flange Repair
    0:32 Toilet Flange Problems and 3 Solutions
    2:01 The Correct Way to Raise the Toilet Flange Height
    2:54 Before You Install the Toilet Flange Extender
    5:07 How to Install the Toilet Flange Extender
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    First things first, why do you need the closet flange to be raised? Well, if it's below the finished floor you'll develop a leak between the toilet bowl and wax ring. Wax rings will compress over time and if the toilet flange is below the tile floor or wood floor the wax compressed too much.
    What's the solution? You can add a toilet flange extender or spacer. These are a few dollars but will save you from fixing damaged drywall or worse a wood subfloor caused by a leaky toilet bowl.
    If your old closet flange is broken you'll have to fix that first. We discuss 3 different options in the video. My favorite is the gasketed push in closet flange. Super easy to install and anybody can do it.
    Once the closet flange is repaired you can add a flange extender. Simply clean off the wax from the old wax ring and apply a generous bead of 100% silicone sealant on the old closet flange. Also, apply silicone to the extender ring. Place the extender onto the old closet flange and use extra long (3 1/2") closet flange bolts to compress the two together.
    Btw, this is my CYA, I'm not responsible for any toilet leaks...it's up to you to inspect your work and make sure it's up to code. This video is meant to be for entertainment purposes.
    For a full written tutorial visit www.homerepairtutor.com/toile...
    #toiletflangerepair #fixleakingtoilet #diytoiletrepair
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  • @samuelkelley5627
    @samuelkelley5627 7 месяцев назад +24

    Nice video! I’m a master plumber, one thing that I’d recommend for anybody doing this is to buy flange extension kit that has a manufactured rubber or foam seal. The silicone will not seal well on old material

  • @vasantsande8644
    @vasantsande8644 2 месяца назад +6

    I have precisely same problem in my house, last 3 days I been thinking what to do, but this video
    gave me strength. Water just leaking from the concrete cracks sometime. Plumbers are great, but
    my tight budget prevents me use their services. I just want to thank a million this videographer and
    great comments below. God bless you all.

  • @faniaandaya5571
    @faniaandaya5571 Год назад +12

    I’m going to embarked on my fist toiler leak repair. I’ve watch several of your videos and now I feel pretty confident that I can get this done. Thank you. Also, great camera work and gifted instructor

  • @lapdawg60
    @lapdawg60 4 года назад +12

    I have a severely bad flange issue (totally improperly done years before we bought this place), and this video (plus several others) have really helped me a LOT! I "can" be fairly handy when I finally dig in, but not naturally good at it (like my dad was -- inherited none of his ability to just make things work). If thing get too tricky, I'm smart enough to stop and call someone, but I think when I finish finally getting this new toilet in, I will feel glad I took my time (we have a second bath, thank God), and research the hell out of it until I get it fixed, and done right. Thanks for posting this video.

  • @dogwink
    @dogwink 2 года назад +16

    I recall seeing somewhere that one should never use silicone caulk on a plumbing project except for external caulking because it will eventually leak in short order.

  • @dp9324
    @dp9324 Год назад +5

    The DANCO all-in-one toilet installation kit can solve the problem of a flange that is substantially below the top of the tile or flooring you're using in the bathroom. That kit has options to install a toilet on a flange that is below, level, or above the top of the flooring so all of your situations are covered without the need for extension rings.

  • @cylturner3116
    @cylturner3116 4 года назад +6

    Excellent editing, music and video. Most helpful. Thank you.

  • @rumrunner1756
    @rumrunner1756 4 года назад +7

    Great video without skipping any steps. I wanted to watch before taking my toilet out (1 bathroom), to plan for any unforeseen problems. Good camera work, good instructions. I am making a run to HD before starting my project so that I can have the pieces on hand that I may need. I am now a subscriber. Thank you. ☮️

  • @sallypage646
    @sallypage646 2 года назад +9

    Omg that was amazing. Thats my exact issue I've been dealing with. How did you know? Wow. Bless you for sharing your video. This really helps me a lot.. Thank you again.

  • @scottatdellomo2517
    @scottatdellomo2517 4 года назад +4

    Great job on the video bro. Easy to follow instructions and several options to repair the flange. Excellent

  • @Baxter5623
    @Baxter5623 7 лет назад +23

    Finally a video with excellent audio and a steady camera.

  • @diannaflood226
    @diannaflood226 4 года назад +7

    Just amazing and so clear. Best thing of all I can order all the items online. Thanks Heavens.

  • @joldzski5636
    @joldzski5636 2 года назад +6

    Truly gifted instructor....great cadence...nice pace and great camera....very helpful....can't wait to check out other content you have !

  • @chicafromthechi
    @chicafromthechi Год назад +3

    very helpful! i needed to do this and your video made it easier and less stressful.

  • @rogerrabbit8756
    @rogerrabbit8756 4 года назад +23

    The spacer plate has screw holes for a reason, pull closet flange screws, silicone and re screw through both spacer and closet flange.

    • @RazorsEdge1810
      @RazorsEdge1810 2 года назад

      I was wondering about that.

    • @keithwalker5078
      @keithwalker5078 24 дня назад

      that's why you buy the longer bolts to go thru both

  • @travislyonsgary
    @travislyonsgary 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the adaptations as they are more likely than not to occur. Outstanding vid.

  • @martindr2
    @martindr2 3 года назад +4

    Wow ! You're not a plumber ....... but you explain things better then a plumber. Thank you !

  • @mikem462
    @mikem462 3 года назад +3

    Hi, appreciate the details. The bolt slots looked different in the spacer and original flange. Does this mean you would have to remove the spacer to take the bolts out if you needed to eventually? Thanks.

  • @marcbrazzers
    @marcbrazzers 3 года назад +53

    You need to drill that into the floor (drill a pilot hole through the existing metal flange and into the wood below it or just into the existing flange with a metal screw if not broken and is solid). The way it's installed in the video, the toilet/spacer is hanging on to the floor with the silicone only and could potentially slide or pull off eventually, causing a leak.

    • @kgill5
      @kgill5 2 года назад +6

      I’m not so sure @Marc. I think PE is using the PVC flange as a spacer. The flange bolts are firmly attached to the metal flange underneath as well as the spacer. You would be correct if the metal flange was unstable or broken.

    • @vjmacintyre
      @vjmacintyre 2 года назад +3

      @@kgill5 another video i saw, dude just drilled #8 deck screws through the extender into the existing (ABS) flange to sandwich it together. The nuts used here seem wrong to me, where they need to be used after the toilet is in place, but there probably is room for them under the toilet anyway, so it should be ok... im obviously not a plumber

    • @blazeaglory
      @blazeaglory 7 месяцев назад

      The bolts are, or SHOULD BE, secured under the cast iron flange whereas the plastic spacer, is just a spacer. The pressure applied, the stickiness of the silicone as well as the wax ring creating additional pressure, should be good for a long while.

  • @gitanshgambhir3428
    @gitanshgambhir3428 2 года назад +1

    Had a leak problem, your video helped big time,
    Thank you

  • @trueforum378
    @trueforum378 Год назад

    You and your buddy are not just a pro, but THE BEST!~ Thank you

  • @hoomalimali6334
    @hoomalimali6334 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for taking the time to do this for us!

  • @patrickpreisinger5923
    @patrickpreisinger5923 4 года назад +5

    I'm doing this tomorrow. This video gives a lot more confidence. Thanks!

  • @junitolopez3762
    @junitolopez3762 7 лет назад

    Thank you for the sharing. Any suggestions for soil pipes, that may require an adapter? mine looks like is made of brass and thorn. Thank you for your input.

  • @thomasmcauley3613
    @thomasmcauley3613 3 года назад

    Great video. Video very well done. Commentary simple, easy to understand. Thank You

  • @rolandberard8958
    @rolandberard8958 2 года назад +1

    Thank you - very well done and informative. Think I'm set! Raining here too!

  • @cherijim2911
    @cherijim2911 4 года назад +19

    Thanks for the tips. We've had a new water efficient toilet installed on top of oak hardwood flooring. The contractor used 3 wax seals and my wife and I have noticed a stink (sewer gas most likely) since the install was done. Your method seems to be the best starting with the flange spacer and going from there. Thanks very much!

    • @blazeaglory
      @blazeaglory 7 месяцев назад +1

      If you haven't already, and if you can, check under house for leaks while flushing. Sounds like a wax ring got dislodged during installation. Using 3 is crazy, using two is ok in most situations but I try and stay away from wax rings with "plastic horns"

  • @djaelius5618
    @djaelius5618 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much...heading out to home depo now...,.lol....this has saved me im sure a lot of time...Thanks again.

  • @lockedin60
    @lockedin60 7 лет назад +5

    Excellent video. Your music is great. It did not overpower you speaking voice yet it provide some ambience. I wish others would watch your video just because of your presentation skills and great choice of microphone,

  • @c3p1
    @c3p1 Год назад

    Thanks for the great programs you share. The smart toilets don't have the screw holes to secure then. What tips do you have for securing them to the floor?
    Thanks

  • @kenfett7070
    @kenfett7070 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing. Have the same problem. This was a big help.

  • @tiger234z
    @tiger234z 2 года назад

    ty for showing and sharing your knowledge and talent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @WanderingNature
    @WanderingNature 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for posting

  • @apex403
    @apex403 Год назад +1

    Thank you sir! I'm having my subfloor & tile floor repaired today and i told the flooring guy I would do the plumbing detach/reset myself (since I love working on plumbing) - I had no idea about the silicone step between the flange & the spacer (which makes sense because I was wondering wtf that adhesion was when I removed the spacer and I was cleaning off the current spacer)
    You probably saved me a future leak ;)
    You earned yourself a sub!
    One last thing , you made me laugh about getting the silicone on your hand/glove, that's legit my luck too with every single project ;)

  • @pnova9838
    @pnova9838 4 года назад

    helpful. Thank you.

  • @tillmansr2002
    @tillmansr2002 4 года назад

    There are open slot on both sides (across each other) and some holes (six) in most flanges. Should the slots be parallel to the to each other (perpendicular the front of the toilet)? Or slightly skewed (as you have it (I think I can't see the finished toilet set) so that the bolts are parallel to each other?

  • @uber.whyman5869
    @uber.whyman5869 6 лет назад

    Thank you good tip

  • @martinadamski945
    @martinadamski945 5 лет назад +202

    Irony? Sitting on the toilet watching a video about fixing my toilet.

  • @johnnyjrosa
    @johnnyjrosa 4 года назад +1

    Glad I came across this video..

  • @chriswolfeagle
    @chriswolfeagle 6 лет назад

    THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @charlesr21
    @charlesr21 7 лет назад

    Very helpful video. Thank you so much.

  • @markt1864
    @markt1864 4 года назад

    Good job thank you.

  • @antoniobaskerville6823
    @antoniobaskerville6823 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the Tips ! This saves a ton in Repair Costs.

  • @RD-wy5dj
    @RD-wy5dj 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video! 👍

  • @futbol1972
    @futbol1972 Месяц назад

    Ok today i installed 2 of thoese homedepot ruber things that have a wax ring attach to them. My flange is aboit 1/4 to 1/2 below my floor since they added lvp over tile. Id i wanna add 1/2 flundge spacers do i need to rwinstall a new wax ring under thoese rubber thingys?

  • @markkolecke6025
    @markkolecke6025 5 лет назад +6

    Hey there! Loving your videos. Plumbing is a pain in the backside isn’t it? Silicone was very smart. The only changes I would make is finding some toilet hardware that will not rust out eventually. Basically anything magnetic will rust out. We use Johnni bolt brand 5/16 hardware with an extra set of nuts to hold those bolts in place when hour awkwardly attempting to place the bowl back. Wax is good. Those solid rubber gaskets are better and don’t leak if they get plunged a lot. Also if warm air from below happens to flow through the floors like radiant heat. Lookin good home repair tutor.

  • @hasmathasmat2497
    @hasmathasmat2497 3 года назад

    Your video came handy just on time . Thank you

  • @ronglendon7329
    @ronglendon7329 3 года назад

    Excellent well done video, Thank you!

  • @kristyngrimes684
    @kristyngrimes684 3 года назад +3

    Super helpful! Now my contractors can stop pooping in the backyard. Thanks!

  • @pcdubya
    @pcdubya 5 лет назад +17

    I just did the exact same thing to raise my floor 3/8" after installing LVP, except I took out the screws holding the original flange in, ( Mine was in a wood sub floor ) and THEN ran them back in, this time through the newly applied spacer which I put down in a thick bed of silicone over the original. Spacer ended up being 1/8" higher than the finished floor which is exactly what the toilet maker and wax ring instructions recommended. Put in thick wax ring with a horn, and good to go.

    • @RazorsEdge1810
      @RazorsEdge1810 2 года назад +1

      I've been wondering if you should take out the screws holding the original flange in to add the spacer(s) on top. Thanks for noting this!

  • @rebecaalvarez5374
    @rebecaalvarez5374 2 года назад

    thank you

  • @wahinenuiloa
    @wahinenuiloa 2 года назад +1

    Solid video. Thanks

  • @cmurphynb
    @cmurphynb 3 года назад

    Very informative!

  • @barrykohnke4640
    @barrykohnke4640 2 года назад

    Good video!
    Very informative.

  • @williamness3271
    @williamness3271 3 года назад +1

    if you have a cracked pvc flange do you put the split ring repair and then the spacer on top?

  • @MrRato1951
    @MrRato1951 4 года назад

    Good Job Thank you

  • @shanehoffman7048
    @shanehoffman7048 4 года назад

    Should you use water proof silicone or water proof construction adhesive? The silicone will not leak correct? Thank you!!

  • @shawnmartinez7393
    @shawnmartinez7393 3 года назад +1

    Good job...being a tile installer, I'd ask to repair the tile with the quarter sized chip...:)

  • @markcuellar9832
    @markcuellar9832 5 лет назад +19

    Nice job securing the flange spacer with washers and nuts. Too many times I've tried to replace toilets only to find the bolt spinning when attempting to undo the nut. It's frustrating, especially since securing the flange with washers and nuts prevents this.

    • @HomeRepairTutor
      @HomeRepairTutor  5 лет назад +7

      thank you, using the nuts also helps hold the bolts in place when setting the bowl. We like that method to also pre-set the rough-in distance so that the bowl is equidistant from the wall.

    • @leejackson9759
      @leejackson9759 4 года назад +2

      would plumbers putty be a better option than silicone to seal the spacer flange?

    • @Longoria1966
      @Longoria1966 3 года назад +1

      Home Repair Tutor what if the toilet flange is broken off..

  • @carriejanesim58
    @carriejanesim58 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @tyronegriffin1451
    @tyronegriffin1451 7 месяцев назад

    I really appreciate this video so helpful

  • @nubianra6965
    @nubianra6965 3 года назад

    Thanks

  • @CarlosDiaz-ve2st
    @CarlosDiaz-ve2st 6 лет назад +1

    Do you need to put the silicone sealer no matter what type of flange you have?

  • @rudybarajas6408
    @rudybarajas6408 6 лет назад +2

    After going to college this helped me see the things I do

  • @rayatlast
    @rayatlast 4 года назад +1

    The best explanation yet, thanks

  • @Timetravel1111
    @Timetravel1111 6 лет назад +2

    Great video from beginning to end! Very thorough.
    I feel ya living in Minneapolis we get snow.
    This last week has been blue and hot and sunny so today it’s cold and dreary too. Nice cold spring day to do repairs.
    Rock on 🤘🏼

  • @justindenton6538
    @justindenton6538 Месяц назад

    Did you set the toilet on those nuts and washers you compressed that extender down with and then install an additional set of nuts and washers to anchor down the toilet?

  • @Javimoz
    @Javimoz Год назад

    Great video. Is there a difference between a flange spacer and a flange extension?

  • @philipwood8776
    @philipwood8776 2 года назад +1

    great video....thank you

  • @lindsaywood1129
    @lindsaywood1129 3 года назад

    Do you put a spacer on the push tite flange? Or does the push tite flange work as a spacer as well?

  • @petermichelson5002
    @petermichelson5002 3 года назад

    Here is our situation! I am rehabbing the bathrooms! We have original terrazzo tile on the concrete deck floor. We will remove the tiles, and thin set. So we set the new toilets on the concrete deck or wait till our flooring contractor lays the new flooring?

  • @sandrasilveira8598
    @sandrasilveira8598 6 лет назад +1

    After flage riser then do you put the wax ring then set toilet

  • @dogscratchedoor
    @dogscratchedoor 4 года назад +4

    Very helpful video, but why would only two bolts be enough to stabilize the closet flange push. Wouldnt using 4 bolts (2 long and 2 short) then stabilize the base better?

  • @AP-hv7xz
    @AP-hv7xz 6 лет назад +1

    good
    thanks

  • @MerlininTaos
    @MerlininTaos 3 года назад +1

    Nice video! Thanks

  • @pemfiri
    @pemfiri 3 года назад

    what was the purpose of white silicon ? was it to create a water sealed connection to prevent leakage from in between the main flange and the flange extender ? what happens if we do not apply the silicon ?

  • @GemmyHeart
    @GemmyHeart Год назад

    Thank you for the video.

  • @allandutch9792
    @allandutch9792 Год назад

    Wondering about leveling the toilet with a shim. You mentioned it but said no more about it. Anyway, great, informative video. Nicely done!

  • @pa.fishpreacher6166
    @pa.fishpreacher6166 4 года назад

    was the nut in the way of the toilet? I have the same flange it is cast iron and don't see any holes to screw into

  • @markcuellar9832
    @markcuellar9832 5 лет назад +36

    The flange is rusted, replace it. The flange bots are secured to that rusted flange. When that flange completes rusting through, nothing but gravity will be holding the toilet in place. Better to do the job right the first time and install a new flange.

    • @HomeRepairTutor
      @HomeRepairTutor  5 лет назад +9

      in this scenario the flange is part of the iron, so the entire hub would need to be replaced. If there was money in the budget we'd definitely opt to replace the entire thing.

    • @markcuellar9832
      @markcuellar9832 5 лет назад +4

      @@HomeRepairTutor Roger that.

    • @blondeguy08
      @blondeguy08 3 года назад +2

      @@HomeRepairTutor lmfao

    • @NSDaishi
      @NSDaishi Год назад +2

      I agree and will continue looking up more videos.

  • @tommynguyen2612
    @tommynguyen2612 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much for your video.

  • @TimothyDahl
    @TimothyDahl 11 месяцев назад

    Super helpful video!

  • @YouTubeCensorsEverything
    @YouTubeCensorsEverything 5 лет назад

    Ok so i got a problem someone apparently socked this toilet i'm looking at down from the top into the wood floor with bolts. The base is leaking and the bolts are no longer doing anything as the water has soaked into the wood. What am I going to have to do?

  • @tb2324
    @tb2324 2 года назад

    So was your metal flange broken, and you put the spacer over top? My plastic flange is broken at the slot hole for the bolt. Can I place the spacer over top, since the spacer has the slot holes as well, or do I need to somehow replace the plastic flange that is broken at the bolt hole before using the spacer to get it to the proper height?

  • @user-yc3ny8rm5x
    @user-yc3ny8rm5x 3 года назад

    Excellent video 👍

  • @cmetube
    @cmetube 5 лет назад

    If that's a lead pipe, aren't the johnnie bolts going to move around and get loose over time with the toilet? Shouldn't those bolts be locked down to below the subfloor and to the subfloor instead?

  • @blainechaney8617
    @blainechaney8617 4 года назад +2

    Very helpful

  • @NewYorksFinest1
    @NewYorksFinest1 4 года назад

    I just reinstalled my toilet. Had to remove it to remove a small plastic bottle stuck under it. When I reinstalled the toilet I tightend the bolts and one side of the bolt slipped out the flange and just spins when I try to tighten the bolt so I can't tighten one side. I tightened the other side. Flushed it a few times and can see between the toilet and floor water forming. I tightened the one bolt a little more and still can see a little water forming but it hasn't come through the seams (the other side where the bolt came loose and spins is completely dry) is this an issue? The toilet doesn't move cuz it's tightened on one side really well

  • @jimbaaab
    @jimbaaab 3 года назад +5

    Hi, thanks for the video. Once you’ve put the new plastic flange on, shouldn’t it be mechanically anchored to the floor somehow? Or are you relying on the two bolts to do that in the long term? I assume this would only work if the old iron flange wasn’t rusted out to the extent that the bolts no longer naturally anchor in there. I ask because I’m seeing other screw holes on the rim of the new plastic flange that looks like they could be used. Could you drill these out to make it secure. Also, with only two bolts as the anchor points, how can you ensure the new plastic flange is level? Once the silicon has cured and the nuts/washers have been removed (before you place the toilet), it seems that it’s just the silicone providing a bit of a rubbery connection between the old flange and the new. Thanks again.

    • @gguezille
      @gguezille 3 года назад +2

      I would do just that, screw the spacer to the floor

  • @edreynolds3745
    @edreynolds3745 2 года назад

    Info very good / helpful. Music is diastracting and pedestrian.

  • @6996katmom
    @6996katmom 2 года назад

    How long does the silicone have to dry? We don't have a flange, the other toilet just sat there. Any suggestions?

  • @stephaniecavallucci1465
    @stephaniecavallucci1465 5 дней назад

    So the last one you did there will work with an old flange that bolts won't screw into then??

  • @am44_67
    @am44_67 3 года назад +2

    Great video thank you! Just curious why you didn’t replace the rusted out flange since you already had a new one with you? Thanks in advance

  • @desmondjrjohnston6315
    @desmondjrjohnston6315 4 года назад

    great-expert

  • @diyday21
    @diyday21 4 года назад

    Great video! You are not a plumber but you could be a very good one! Thanks!

  • @DanRichter
    @DanRichter 4 месяца назад

    I just took my first toilet out and the flange hovers about an inch off the subfloor, is this good/normal/bad? If I try to push it down, it goes, but then rebounds back to about 1 inch off the floor. I also can't remove it because it seems to be taking pipe with it.

  • @bertettinger3740
    @bertettinger3740 6 лет назад +1

    What can you do if the toilet flange sticks up higher 3/4 of an inch!! Whoever installed this did not do this properly and had to put a 3/4 inch piece of plywood between thetoilet and the floor? What can you do to instal thus properly?

  • @TheFedic25
    @TheFedic25 6 лет назад

    This was very helpful

  • @emt2q
    @emt2q 3 года назад

    My toilet flange is on a slab however the slab doesn’t go all the way up to the flange so the screws will fall if I just place them in without the bolts. I am afraid to pour concrete mix in there as I’m afraid it will crack the PVC piping underneath. Any advice for a fix on this ?

  • @antv38
    @antv38 7 лет назад +16

    And. You forgot to tell people. You need to remove the paper tag on top otherwise the wax wont stick to the plastic and you will have a leak.