Great video John!! It's always nice to see my fellow RUclipsr colleagues validate what I have been witnessing as well. Turtle Wax has made a great comeback in the past few years and they are serious competitors now. Seal N Shine is such a value for money, and I'm glad to see that you had the gloss meter readings that confirmed what I thought about Ceramic Spray Coating. In my testing, my eyes were telling me that is was slightly glossier compared to Seal N Shine, and this now confirms that I am not crazy. LOL
This is gonna be a popular product Pan. in the UK the seal and shine is currently being sold for £3.55. So the people that dont buy into the "ceramic" stuff can bypass it and still have a very durable glossy product with seal and shine/sealant hydrophobic wax. but those that try the Ceramic Spray I think they are gonna appreciate the wow factor. Just how the car looks and feels after application (yes other SI02 sprays have the wow factor but not with the same durability) its been a while since doing the testing.. On the golf Im noticing the slickness and gloss is lasting out really well and its so very easy to apply. I think its gonna go down well.. Ive tested the wet wax I just need to test the other ones.. but looks like a job well done.. lets hope they unveil some more products next year same time and place!!!! :)
@@ForensicDetailing After applying TW Ceramic Spray and letting it cure for 24 hours - could one use P&S BM as a topper or would that be counterproductive as they are different technologies?
@@reborn_online I use turtle wax ceramic wax spray and does extremely well on my car I place a can like a monster energy drink unopened and slide off my hood
100% if I had more income I’d be a patron supporter to John because the work he does in making these videos takes a lot of time, effort and money but they are so important for us casuals and mortals.
You set the bar VERY high for car detailing information. Your videos, methods and analysis are all amazing. Well done, I really enjoy the education and lack of bias.
Very useful video. One thing to keep in mind (since how much you apply is critical to usability) is that the Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray becomes much more difficult to apply consistently once you get to the last 10% or so of the bottle. I also found that the spraying mechanism literally fell apart as the bottle started to run dry. Aside from that, it's a great product (just don't apply too much).
Use the Turtle Wax Ceramic "1 Step" (yellow hybrid bottle) for the best price to performance results. Don't use it as instructed, instead, just buff it on a clean, dry car. Spraying one panel at a time. It doesn't streak no where near as bad as Meguairs Ceramic Hybrid, (which is so hard to buff off black cars.) It does buff in super easily compared to other ceramics I've used. But what REALLY surprises me about the Turtle Wax versus any other "ceramic wax" is the performance on wheels. Brake dust is literally a non-issue with Turtle Wax. Megauirs seems to ATTRACT the dust and dirt and those particles seem to "cling" to the coating, which makes cleaning wheels very difficult and time consuming. Since I've switched to the Turtle Wax 1 Step, my wheels still look brand new and clean even after heavy braking. I can't believe how well that stuff works. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
Excellent review and I have now subscribed. Following these videos I purchased this directly from turtle wax via eBay £15 for 2 bottles (there weren't any other deals at the time). I've used it twice now. Once when the car was wet. It left a bit of a streaky finish that was a bit harder than I expected to buff off. The second time I used it I applied it dry, and was much easier. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming.
Great channel John, thanks for delivering accurate non-biased testing. Between you and Brian at Apex here in the states we are getting some excellent advice. Cheers!
I used the turtle wax dry and shine on my wife’s blue convertible two years ago after seeing you do it, I haven’t touched it for 8 months with any and evertime it rains im still amazed how much it still beads. I took a photo the other morning i would like to send you.
Great video as always John! I don't know if it is related with it but my question is: Can you use any of these products instead of Reload and Cure after applying a ceramic coating for preventing waters spots?
moonlight, fusso and Seal and Shine no.. TW ceramic spray and meguiars more so or yes. (Ive not tested but in theory they would be good). I tend to like to use products specifically from the same manufacturer with a ceramic.. so if Im using CP I would prolly combo it with CP products for guernetee'd results
Moonlight is my absolute favourite even though its expensive big fan of fusso also something about the old style paste products I just enjoy using them
Another great video Jon👍. I have used a fair few of the products that you have shown & now a big BH fan & glass cleaning towels you have reviewed inc the Halfords product on interior glass. So a big thank you👍 I have never seen you review Megs Detailer line. Inc Final Touch, X press Wax & Glass Cleaner. I have used these products for many years.
I'll have to try the new turtle wax stuff. I've lived them since they came out with the ICE line and still use that. Did an experiment this winter. In October washed and stripped paint, then used seal and shine. Michigan USA winter and it's still going. Once the salt comes off the car or it kinda warms and we get a cold rain that rinses the salt, it's still all beads. I'm very surprised at the seal and shine and you're saying the new ceramic line is better durability, I'm in!!!
Just a thought on the value of a product here: instead of computing the value as the number of applications divided by the cost, one might take the product of the number of applications times the duration of protection divided by the cost.
Great video as always Jon. I'm a bit confused with the durability test though. You've previously said you can get an easy 9 months from Fusso yet meguiars was ahead of it?
remember every test is just a test.. And what we are testing it hitting a product with detergent.. but yer I too would be interested to sort of see real life results.. Half a car with megs half with fusso. I think my money would still be on fusso perhaps... who knows.. if megs gets a good bond its very very durable as well.
Your content, presentation and methodology are superb. You provide an invaluable service to so many people who seriously care about properly caring for the finishes on their cars. Thank you.
I used the spray coating this evening, after a full polish using the ceramic polish and wax. (24 hr previous). I followed the instructions closely, but didn't get great results. The product is very hard to buff off, leaving smears and dark patches. I don't get it. Two sprays per panel, work it around with a microfibre, then buff with a dry and clean microfiber. It just doesn't want to come off. I don't get it, is this the same product?
I used 2 coats of the Turtle Wax Ceramic spray a few days ago and got caught in a lot of rain when driving. Got back and re-washed and it's not really beading at all as it did with yours. Do I need to re-apply?
It's very interesting to see that the Ceramic SiO2 spray didn't do as well. I was thinking of trying it, but I'm going to either try the new Turtle Wax Ceramic spray or I'll stick with the tried and true Turtle Wax Spray and Seal. It does streak a little, but I've applied on a warm panel - I know, I know, but sometimes it depends on my free time to do the job. And it does get warm here in Los Angeles! Thanks for the great video.
Great test. I switched to TW Ice Seal N Shine after trying Meguiar's HCW. As you stated, it's very dense and is very hazy and streaky, no doubt from Floridian humidity. It also did not like detailers and would streak horribly. I'm glad they now have a Ceramic Detailer. I'm getting a Griot's Garage G9 polisher for Xmas and will try the new TW Hybrid Solutions Polish & Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating and I'm hoping for the best. Thanks Jon.
I wish you went back to your whiteboard. Moonlight is one of my favorite products and is 25% SiO2. It works amazingly well on truck bed covers and trim.
Fantastic video! Very in-depth just what I was looking for. I watch the debut with you and Jim and pann and the other RUclipsrs at the Resort sponsoring the Turtle Wax new hybrid line. Keep up the great work sir.
Another excellent video... I've only recently discovered your channel (which I have obviously subscribed to) and the detail you go into is phenomenal. Really excellent work. If you could answer a question... After using a sealant wax, would using a spray detailer (say a week or 2 later for example) start to breakdown the the wax? I'm just still a little confused between applying detailer vs sealants/ceramic waxes. Thanks 👍🏼
Hi Jon. Is there a decent spray wax you'd recommend that can be used every 2 weeks, so it doesn't need to last all that long, just give a good shine after a 2 week wash. Cheers
Great video as always. To me one of the main advantages of the Seal and Shine compared to all the others is that it can be used as a drying aid/lubricant when drying, so you are using the same product that you already have as a base coat as a top-up. Was that a cheeky peak at the beemer in one of the shots? Glad to see that you still have it, we need an update on that ;)
How do these compare to a full ceramic coating? I just don't want to clean, clay, clean, polish, and then put on a coating that only lasts 3-4 months...vs one that lasts 1-2 years. Just seems like too much work.
Could you clarify this thing up for me, if you apply a coat of the new Turtle wax ceramic spray and wait the 24hrs for cure time but for eg it rains during that 24hrs and the car gets wet, does it stop the curing ?....just asking as I would like to apply 2 layers of it but you have to wait 24hrs between coats and I was thinking if it rains and stops the curing effect, does it make any sense to add another layer....Any advice?
it wont stop curing if it gets wet... But while a product is still curing its more vulnerable to being broken down.. so its less about getting it wet but more about washing it with detergents I think. you could apply one coating in the morning. and one in the afternoon and I recon you would be fine.. not tested though. Im not sure if I would wait 24 hours between coats..
Thanks Jon! I think I will try it and let you know how it turns out but if you ever think about running a video on the result of a few hour vs 24 hrs curing, let me know. Thanks again.
Great vid John, i have been using the turtle wax Seal&Shine based on your videos and its great! I have some left over Sonax BSD, what do you reckon to mixing it with the Seal&Shine to get a bit of extra beading? cheers
I think a better idea for a durability test would be to use simulated dirt/road salt on the panel, let it dry then wash it, it's salt and road grime that ruins protection, not shampoos!
interesting yes. I have my dirt simulator but its very thick. Road grime contains more hydrocarbon solvent.. my test here is detergent based. It might flip the results a lot because fusso does not hold up to solvents as well as it holds up to detergents. ill maybe look into this Rich thanks for this.
@@ForensicDetailing definitely worth a shot, or even grit salt diluted to simulate standing water/melted ice etc. Its my biggest pet peeve with lsps, some will look good and bead strong, but after having road salt/grime sat on for a few days it strongly affects the hydrophobics. I tend to favour ceramics mostly these days.
Great video... interesting results in that despite the carefully compiled numbers that would suggest certain conclusions, Moonlight is still your preference. High intangible factor?
yer have a read of what I said to the other chap above. the points help me pick winners but theres a difference between these tests and sort of real life. moonlight is unique comapred to these products.
The mrs brought me the turtle wax sealant hydrophobic was about 2 wks ago and I tried it on my car last Sunday. Loved the ease of application and the shine and smoothness it gave, the smoothness was comparative to power lock I felt. I agree with what you said about its ability to bead its good but not a bead monster although I think it’s a good sheeter. Gonna be interesting to see how long it lasts in real world daily driving. One thing I have noticed is that the dirt does seem to be attracted to it, mind you we are in the winter so more crap is getting thrown up and being a white car it’s more noticeable. Awesome review jon, are you going to do a mega test again soon ?
Technicians Choice TEC582 has been so impressive here in south Florida on black -white and mid colors. I think a good test for Turtle wax . I have both on one hood and I am testing myself. My Kiwami does magic as well.
Hope you like it!!! As I commented, I put it on in October after stripping the remaining wax and it's been through Michigan winter. Once the salt is off, it's still all beads. I'm very happy with the seal and shine!!!! Super easy to apply. Crazy durability so far.
thats good to hears that the "resistance" from wiping these water based sprays means likely better durability. I felt this resistance first with Optimum Car Wax, as opposed to Meguiards D156 which has no resistance.
Great video mate. Picked up the Turtle Wax Hydrophobic Sealant today on a whim and I'm impressed how easy it is to apply. I'm using it with other turtle Wax products like their Snow Foam and Zip Wax shampoo, must admit my car feels very slippery 😆
Great test John, i'm glad Tyrtle Wax won. I have used a number of these products and they hang on well on the top half of the car but are flat within a week or two on th elower half of the side in the wet weather here in Manchester, i'm wondering if there is some abrasion going on from the raod debris fitting the panels. Could you recreate this wear and tear in a test, perhaps using a snow foam to with dirty/salty water? Keep up the good work!!
I bought the TW Ceramic spray the other day and have given her 2 coats, so waiting for the rain now to see how it performs. It went on very well though after I washed and clayed the car. Although it says it is suitable for glass, I found it quite hard to polish off despite using a clean cloth, so for paint, plastic, and alloys it’s perfect, but stick to a dedicated glass product for windows.
Hi Jon, Can you help me out, I'm getting really confused with what I should be using to protect my car. I use a wax during the summer/ warmer months, something to enjoy but now that its getting colder what easier and method of protection is there to take me through winter? I have Sonax BSD as lots of people like it but is that really providing any protection (I wash the car, dry and do a quick round with bsd)? Or is that just a detailer thats not really doing anything? I dont have a machine polisher so won't be able to remove stronger things once weather warms up again. Is a sealant what I need or is that going to be too long lasting? Well confused! Thanks
ok first up. Get a machine polisher :) DA8 see my review. So a wax is fine thats all you need. use it all up. dont by any more waxes untill you use up this one. now in winter you may find that you dont want to be out side and its cold. So I like spray and rinse products in winter. Try Gyeon Wet Coat this is a spray rinse and then dry product and its awesome. feel the paint an hour after application it will be nice and slick. but its so easy to apply no buffing spray rinse dry boom. also watch ruclips.net/video/6Cf3n4F2sBU/видео.html
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you Jon, that's some good advice there. Will take a look at your videos. Will wet coat be difficult to remove in your experience or will it degrade by itself over a few months? Just for my understanding more than anything, is BSD not really a spray sealant then, just a durable quick detailer? I may have wrongly assumed it was somewhat of a competitor product to the likes of wet coat...? Thanks again, your channel and posts are forever helpful 👍
Hey John please advise I want a high gloss protection combo on my car What do you think of this combo? Turtle Wax seal and shine + Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic & Graphene Paste + TAC systems Shinee wax as a top up after weekly wash
Hi John getting into detailing on my first car. Been using the meguiars and turtlewax products and they seem to be working a treat. However I am washing my car with a cheap wash and wax (2 bucket method), drying, and then spraying the product onto the panel, working into the panel with an applicator pad l, followed by buffing off with a separate microfiber. Is this the best prep to get the most out of these products? What can I do to make them last longer? I enjoy washing my car weekly and removing all the light grime, but I don't want to strip the wax each time. What products do you recommend to achieve this? Note I also do everything by hand and don't own a jet wash or snowfoam lance, and am planning on doing a polish with an autoglym super resin polish or meguiars ultimate compound around 6 month intervals.
Hi there this is a long question to answer. When your Washing use pure wash products.. no wash and wax or ceramic shampoo pure detergents and clean and rinse them all off. Decon your car when it has contmination and the paint is rough. Machine polishing it when it has swirls. once paint is good wash it carefully. protection. Dont overload your paintwork. Find a good base line protection prdocut. like moonlight etc.. apply this after full polishing+panel wipe then apply. then wash the car often and use a mild detail spray.. dont overload paintwork. All of these products here make a decent durable sealant choice. to be fair. some are very cheap.
Good stuff mate, these things are so good for this time of year! Was just wondering, what hose are you using on your jet washer? I'm sick of the damn Karcher hose constantly tying itself into knots, noticed yours looks a lot easier to use!
If I'm using meguairs wash and wax every 2 weeks, is there no point applying a wax ( eg meguairs ultimate liquid) or a sealant( eg autoglym extra gloss protection)? I find the wash and wax gives nearly 2 weeks of water beading.
The Meguires label tells you you *should* apply it over old wax instead of claying. I found even with claying and polishing the car it doesn't last very long, but in fairness nothing does in the California sun.
I wonder how the ceramic coating will turn out when using the whole series of products together. I imagine when using all the different TW products in the series you would get more optimal results.
Great test Jon especially as I have all you tested against. I no doubt will get the TW Ceramic although having the others in the test, there’s little point. When does that ever stop me!
I enjoy your videos but...What I am really interested in, is how easy it is to clean a dirty car after using a particular product. It is all well and good looking at sheeting and droplets on the car and repeatedly spraying a clean surface but I don't care how the water runs off or forms droplets. I've used the Turtle Wax Spray Sealant (ranked #1 in your test) and IMO it is useless for shrugging off dirt. I rinsed, snow-foamed and rinsed and there is still a distinct layer of fine dirt on the car (2 year old, low milage, MB living in a garage). Perhaps I'm expecting too much of these products but I really feel tests should reflect real life so we can see how easily the dirt comes off as well as making the car look good. My ideal product would be something that can provide a "touchless" wash.
Hi John Could you please say if TW Ceramic spray wax can be removed after application to correct paint under it in tiny area and then reapplied back to that tiny area only one o then have perfect blend ?
Turtle wax dry and shine or the turtle wax hybrid sealant? I’ve been using the dry & shine and seem to be getting great results.. can’t see too much difference between the two?
Is fusso going out of production? Are they replacing it with something else? It does smell very chemical, its not super gloss or slick but it does have good protection.
Awesome video Jon! That where some heavy hitters you put the new TW Hybrid Solution Ceramic Spray Coating against. Impressed with it's durability and the gloss from it. Will see how it's priced here in Sweden when it comes here. It looks like when you use these Hybrid Solution line of products you can get an awesome synergy on your vehicals protection. The HS Ceramic Polish and Wax as the primer and after the 24h cure time apply the Ceramic Spray Coating and maybe another 24h if possible to get 2 layers off it on the paint. It's just for me personally I like to test out different products on my car LOL. But still have this as a base protection and then if wanted to get outside of the TW products could work great. And if it's so durable that you would get a year of longevity from it. Then start over with a polishing step with the Ceramic Polish and Wax and top it with Ceramic Spray Coating again. Say that I would have this TW HS Ceramic Polish and Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating as the base protection. Then maintance washes with wash products that don't leave anything behind as in protection and glossenhancers. Since it seems to the highest hydrophobic performance wears off quite quickly. Would it be a good thing to just put on another coat with the HS Ceramic Spray Coating every month? Just to keep the hydrophobic performance from it as high as possible during the year before I would be doing a polishing step again. As you get a good amount of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and since the SiO2 in it may not last over a couple of years before it hardens in the bottle. And if you have a car or 2 you can have some of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating left after a couple of years if you use it yearly and top it with another HS product. Have noticed this with other SiO2 products that they have a year of shelf life or just a little more. So it would not be waisting product but more use it up. Looking forward to see the more in depth video. And other videos about the prep work you have mentioned in other comments.
Brilliant video and once again covers all topics in detail. There should be a hell of a lot more subscribers to this channel and I really hope people support Jon on Patreon also. Content is the best on RUclips and most important of all non bias and brutally honest. Big thumbs up. 👍🏻
Hi love your channe.. l was just wondering what do u recommend for a black car skoda superb in irish weather conditions do u recommend a compound first or a good polish a slight few scrathes on it also only after buying the car it's a 2016 thanks...
eric have a watch of these 4 videos washing ruclips.net/video/AUytWaLtOOo/видео.html decon ruclips.net/video/9B9Cn-GeJqw/видео.html polishing ruclips.net/video/MI_m2rO-OpM/видео.html products ruclips.net/video/I7q5E8Kz-CY/видео.html Koch abrasives H8 F6 M3 are what I generally recomend. I cant say whats best for your car with out seeing it. but if you want to go fast and safe do a single stage with F6. For best results do cut and finish with H9 and M3. use flex purples to cut and oranges to finish and use a 8ml Dual Action polisher like in2detailing DA8 or a DAS6 pro.
Very keen on how you applied these products with your new pxe80 cordless handheld. Can’t wait till mine comes! I ordered a handful of pands the other day and will post my latest haul
I dont like using any car products on glass. I find them more problematic than beneficial. not everyone agrees with me though.. try like angelwax H2go.. or for a casual one autoglanz vision (cleaner sealant) the autoglanz one I think is very good.
I’m betting in a few months you’ll be able to get TW Ceramic for $5 less just like Mcquiars. The ease of putting on TW ceramic is worth it to me. So easy to wipe on and off, and the polish is just as easy to use. Bottle will last a one or two car person easily a year + too.
I use tw SS left my car outside in the elements for 5 months, rain still beads off the windows and paint only the windshield where the wipers are completely gone.
I like the look of the wash and ceramic that would seem to be the best value for money as it only requires one cap full for one bucket. Can you test that stuff out? The Turtle wax wash and ceramic coat, please?
What wash product would you recommend to do a so called decontamination wash on my Ceramic coated black car that has a 9 month old TAK System Moonlight coating on top of the ceramic?
Thanks John. Great information as always :) It might be interesting to put some of these products up against Gyeon Can Coat as well. This new turtle wax line seems confusing to me. Polish and Wax? Surely you'd want to apply the TW sealant to the clear coat? Also you wouldn't want to wash your car with this before you polished it, as it has a wax component? The detailer description reads like a waterless wash?
I tried the Turtle Wax Spray and Shine after you and Pan gave it amazing reviews. I didn't get good results unfortunately. It was SUPER streaky and a pain to remove. I'd love to try the new product, but I have such a bitter taste in my mouth about the other product.
@UCVBbN8fvqtHylzPb0VotTEA I've literally done one spray onto a microfiber on a squeeky clean car (3 in fact) and had the same issues. I bought it in summer, so I thought it was because it was the heat (not direct sunlight) and had the same issues on a cool cloudy day. I get so much better results with other products. I didn't see the point in fighting to try make it work, when I have products like Liquid Crystal or even BSD that I have no problems with at all. I guess if there wasn't 'personal preference' and there was only "the best," then their wouldn't be a market. It just didn't work for me, over the six months I'd forced myself to go and try again.
If im going from a car covered in Megwiers Ultimate wax to turtle wax ceramic wax, do i need to wash off the previous wax completely with a compound or can i just soap and water wash then apply?
if your doing it properly then full prep with a pure abrasive and then a degreaser panel wipe for this abrasive is the only way to give a 100% product free clean surface. But lots just wash the car dry it, maybe a quick panel wipe, then apply the top up or next protection over the top of whatever is there. Its up to you. but its good to prep properly really.
Great video John!! It's always nice to see my fellow RUclipsr colleagues validate what I have been witnessing as well. Turtle Wax has made a great comeback in the past few years and they are serious competitors now. Seal N Shine is such a value for money, and I'm glad to see that you had the gloss meter readings that confirmed what I thought about Ceramic Spray Coating. In my testing, my eyes were telling me that is was slightly glossier compared to Seal N Shine, and this now confirms that I am not crazy. LOL
This is gonna be a popular product Pan. in the UK the seal and shine is currently being sold for £3.55. So the people that dont buy into the "ceramic" stuff can bypass it and still have a very durable glossy product with seal and shine/sealant hydrophobic wax. but those that try the Ceramic Spray I think they are gonna appreciate the wow factor. Just how the car looks and feels after application (yes other SI02 sprays have the wow factor but not with the same durability)
its been a while since doing the testing.. On the golf Im noticing the slickness and gloss is lasting out really well and its so very easy to apply. I think its gonna go down well.. Ive tested the wet wax I just need to test the other ones.. but looks like a job well done.. lets hope they unveil some more products next year same time and place!!!! :)
@@ForensicDetailing After applying TW Ceramic Spray and letting it cure for 24 hours - could one use P&S BM as a topper or would that be counterproductive as they are different technologies?
Great thing you share PAN THANKS
@@JeLifeCoach did you ever try this?
I like the fact that you have taken detailed notes, and are seen reading them while on camera, rather than going from memory. Very professional.
Anyone else here use these videos as a benchmark to pick your next product or is it just me 😅
I did!!! Not impressed with the Turtle Wax ceramic spray through. I feel duped!
@@reborn_online I use turtle wax ceramic wax spray and does extremely well on my car I place a can like a monster energy drink unopened and slide off my hood
Definitely, an incredibly useful channel this!
100% if I had more income I’d be a patron supporter to John because the work he does in making these videos takes a lot of time, effort and money but they are so important for us casuals and mortals.
You set the bar VERY high for car detailing information. Your videos, methods and analysis are all amazing. Well done, I really enjoy the education and lack of bias.
Neighbour's: His washing a bonnet over and over again,that isn't even fitted to the car.😀👍
lol :) hes cleaned it 25 times already!
That is funny. They prob think you've got mental issues... also he's talking gibberish to himself. 🤣🤣
@@cjin0101 this has the makings of a classic B movie horror. 'The Detailer'
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There are detailing channels and then there's forensic detailing.
its the only one i watch lol
Yea this guy is next level
Best guy, honest and not double face !
the more channels I see testing products the more I realise where they get their ideas from
This and the Apex detailing channel are by far my favourite channels!!? Excellent info as always Sir
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Excellent info Jon!!! Loved to see the durability tests and how the new Turtlewax Ceramic Spray Coating beat them all!! 😎👍🏼
Very useful video. One thing to keep in mind (since how much you apply is critical to usability) is that the Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray becomes much more difficult to apply consistently once you get to the last 10% or so of the bottle. I also found that the spraying mechanism literally fell apart as the bottle started to run dry. Aside from that, it's a great product (just don't apply too much).
Use the Turtle Wax Ceramic "1 Step" (yellow hybrid bottle) for the best price to performance results. Don't use it as instructed, instead, just buff it on a clean, dry car. Spraying one panel at a time. It doesn't streak no where near as bad as Meguairs Ceramic Hybrid, (which is so hard to buff off black cars.) It does buff in super easily compared to other ceramics I've used. But what REALLY surprises me about the Turtle Wax versus any other "ceramic wax" is the performance on wheels. Brake dust is literally a non-issue with Turtle Wax. Megauirs seems to ATTRACT the dust and dirt and those particles seem to "cling" to the coating, which makes cleaning wheels very difficult and time consuming. Since I've switched to the Turtle Wax 1 Step, my wheels still look brand new and clean even after heavy braking. I can't believe how well that stuff works. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
HCWs application is definitely going to be much better with the upcoming Liquid version in 2020. Can’t wait to see testing on that.
Excellent review and I have now subscribed. Following these videos I purchased this directly from turtle wax via eBay £15 for 2 bottles (there weren't any other deals at the time). I've used it twice now. Once when the car was wet. It left a bit of a streaky finish that was a bit harder than I expected to buff off. The second time I used it I applied it dry, and was much easier. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming.
Great channel John, thanks for delivering accurate non-biased testing. Between you and Brian at Apex here in the states we are getting some excellent advice. Cheers!
And there were two, no other !
I used the turtle wax dry and shine on my wife’s blue convertible two years ago after seeing you do it, I haven’t touched it for 8 months with any and evertime it rains im still amazed how much it still beads. I took a photo the other morning i would like to send you.
Fantastic video, Jon!👏🏻
Absolutely love the honest, thorough detail you go to for these videos. Really appreciate the effort!👍🏻
Great video as always John! I don't know if it is related with it but my question is: Can you use any of these products instead of Reload and Cure after applying a ceramic coating for preventing waters spots?
moonlight, fusso and Seal and Shine no.. TW ceramic spray and meguiars more so or yes. (Ive not tested but in theory they would be good).
I tend to like to use products specifically from the same manufacturer with a ceramic.. so if Im using CP I would prolly combo it with CP products for guernetee'd results
Moonlight is my absolute favourite even though its expensive big fan of fusso also something about the old style paste products I just enjoy using them
We like it too 😬
Another great video Jon👍.
I have used a fair few of the products that you have shown & now a big BH fan & glass cleaning towels you have reviewed inc the Halfords product on interior glass. So a big thank you👍
I have never seen you review Megs Detailer line. Inc Final Touch, X press Wax & Glass Cleaner. I have used these products for many years.
I'll have to try the new turtle wax stuff. I've lived them since they came out with the ICE line and still use that.
Did an experiment this winter. In October washed and stripped paint, then used seal and shine.
Michigan USA winter and it's still going.
Once the salt comes off the car or it kinda warms and we get a cold rain that rinses the salt, it's still all beads.
I'm very surprised at the seal and shine and you're saying the new ceramic line is better durability, I'm in!!!
Just a thought on the value of a product here: instead of computing the value as the number of applications divided by the cost, one might take the product of the number of applications times the duration of protection divided by the cost.
Exactly, if the ceramic spray last 12 months then that's probably twice as long as your average wax.
Great video as always Jon. I'm a bit confused with the durability test though. You've previously said you can get an easy 9 months from Fusso yet meguiars was ahead of it?
remember every test is just a test.. And what we are testing it hitting a product with detergent.. but yer I too would be interested to sort of see real life results.. Half a car with megs half with fusso. I think my money would still be on fusso perhaps... who knows.. if megs gets a good bond its very very durable as well.
Your content, presentation and methodology are superb. You provide an invaluable service to so many people who seriously care about properly caring for the finishes on their cars. Thank you.
I used the spray coating this evening, after a full polish using the ceramic polish and wax. (24 hr previous). I followed the instructions closely, but didn't get great results. The product is very hard to buff off, leaving smears and dark patches. I don't get it. Two sprays per panel, work it around with a microfibre, then buff with a dry and clean microfiber. It just doesn't want to come off. I don't get it, is this the same product?
I used 2 coats of the Turtle Wax Ceramic spray a few days ago and got caught in a lot of rain when driving. Got back and re-washed and it's not really beading at all as it did with yours. Do I need to re-apply?
It's very interesting to see that the Ceramic SiO2 spray didn't do as well. I was thinking of trying it, but I'm going to either try the new Turtle Wax Ceramic spray or I'll stick with the tried and true Turtle Wax Spray and Seal. It does streak a little, but I've applied on a warm panel - I know, I know, but sometimes it depends on my free time to do the job. And it does get warm here in Los Angeles!
Thanks for the great video.
Great test. I switched to TW Ice Seal N Shine after trying Meguiar's HCW. As you stated, it's very dense and is very hazy and streaky, no doubt from Floridian humidity. It also did not like detailers and would streak horribly. I'm glad they now have a Ceramic Detailer. I'm getting a Griot's Garage G9 polisher for Xmas and will try the new TW Hybrid Solutions Polish & Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating and I'm hoping for the best. Thanks Jon.
I wish you went back to your whiteboard. Moonlight is one of my favorite products and is 25% SiO2. It works amazingly well on truck bed covers and trim.
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Ed don’t worry everyone know moonlight is better
Nobody wants turtle wax ...they should change their name to ceramic wax
Finally, someone agrees with me in saying that the new version of Fusso Coat 12M isn't as potent as the old one.
I went on eBay and tracked down a couple of original tins of fusso coat. I live in Hawaii and ordered them from guys in Russia. Worth it.
Fantastic video! Very in-depth just what I was looking for. I watch the debut with you and Jim and pann and the other RUclipsrs at the Resort sponsoring the Turtle Wax new hybrid line. Keep up the great work sir.
Subscribed as soon as I saw this dude. Just looked the real deal detailing boffin. The quality content justified my decision
Another excellent video... I've only recently discovered your channel (which I have obviously subscribed to) and the detail you go into is phenomenal. Really excellent work.
If you could answer a question... After using a sealant wax, would using a spray detailer (say a week or 2 later for example) start to breakdown the the wax? I'm just still a little confused between applying detailer vs sealants/ceramic waxes.
Thanks 👍🏼
The Professor does it again. 👏👏
Great video.
Hi Jon. Is there a decent spray wax you'd recommend that can be used every 2 weeks, so it doesn't need to last all that long, just give a good shine after a 2 week wash. Cheers
This video is exactly what I’ve been looking for.
Well done and thanks 🙏🏻
thank you sir for that apprecaite it.
Another great video, appreciate your opinions and taking the time and effort to put these videos together.
Great video as always. To me one of the main advantages of the Seal and Shine compared to all the others is that it can be used as a drying aid/lubricant when drying, so you are using the same product that you already have as a base coat as a top-up. Was that a cheeky peak at the beemer in one of the shots? Glad to see that you still have it, we need an update on that ;)
How do these compare to a full ceramic coating? I just don't want to clean, clay, clean, polish, and then put on a coating that only lasts 3-4 months...vs one that lasts 1-2 years. Just seems like too much work.
Could you clarify this thing up for me, if you apply a coat of the new Turtle wax ceramic spray and wait the 24hrs for cure time but for eg it rains during that 24hrs and the car gets wet, does it stop the curing ?....just asking as I would like to apply 2 layers of it but you have to wait 24hrs between coats and I was thinking if it rains and stops the curing effect, does it make any sense to add another layer....Any advice?
it wont stop curing if it gets wet... But while a product is still curing its more vulnerable to being broken down.. so its less about getting it wet but more about washing it with detergents I think. you could apply one coating in the morning. and one in the afternoon and I recon you would be fine.. not tested though. Im not sure if I would wait 24 hours between coats..
Thanks Jon! I think I will try it and let you know how it turns out but if you ever think about running a video on the result of a few hour vs 24 hrs curing, let me know. Thanks again.
Great vid John, i have been using the turtle wax Seal&Shine based on your videos and its great! I have some left over Sonax BSD, what do you reckon to mixing it with the Seal&Shine to get a bit of extra beading? cheers
I think a better idea for a durability test would be to use simulated dirt/road salt on the panel, let it dry then wash it, it's salt and road grime that ruins protection, not shampoos!
Richard M Good point👍🏻 Always found the road grime always ruins my protection - especially in the winter!
@@DiiZeh_ yup, especially round the lowers, etc. That kind of durability is where I put my money.
@@convergecult I am a Tac fan but it will not last in winter on the lowers.
interesting yes. I have my dirt simulator but its very thick. Road grime contains more hydrocarbon solvent.. my test here is detergent based. It might flip the results a lot because fusso does not hold up to solvents as well as it holds up to detergents. ill maybe look into this Rich thanks for this.
@@ForensicDetailing definitely worth a shot, or even grit salt diluted to simulate standing water/melted ice etc. Its my biggest pet peeve with lsps, some will look good and bead strong, but after having road salt/grime sat on for a few days it strongly affects the hydrophobics. I tend to favour ceramics mostly these days.
Great video... interesting results in that despite the carefully compiled numbers that would suggest certain conclusions, Moonlight is still your preference. High intangible factor?
yer have a read of what I said to the other chap above. the points help me pick winners but theres a difference between these tests and sort of real life. moonlight is unique comapred to these products.
Stev, moonlight is just a product you have to experience.
@@tacsystemusa1702 Believe me, considering it, have visited your web site a few times.
The mrs brought me the turtle wax sealant hydrophobic was about 2 wks ago and I tried it on my car last Sunday. Loved the ease of application and the shine and smoothness it gave, the smoothness was comparative to power lock I felt. I agree with what you said about its ability to bead its good but not a bead monster although I think it’s a good sheeter. Gonna be interesting to see how long it lasts in real world daily driving. One thing I have noticed is that the dirt does seem to be attracted to it, mind you we are in the winter so more crap is getting thrown up and being a white car it’s more noticeable. Awesome review jon, are you going to do a mega test again soon ?
Technicians Choice TEC582 has been so impressive here in south Florida on black -white and mid colors. I think a good test for Turtle wax . I have both on one hood and I am testing myself. My Kiwami does magic as well.
Washed the car today and about to apply my seal and shine and the good old British weather kicked in ☹️ can't wait to get the stuff on my car.
Hope you like it!!! As I commented, I put it on in October after stripping the remaining wax and it's been through Michigan winter. Once the salt is off, it's still all beads.
I'm very happy with the seal and shine!!!! Super easy to apply. Crazy durability so far.
Excellent review. You are very detailed and I enjoyed learning from you. Thank you!
thats good to hears that the "resistance" from wiping these water based sprays means likely better durability.
I felt this resistance first with Optimum Car Wax, as opposed to Meguiards D156 which has no resistance.
Great video mate. Picked up the Turtle Wax Hydrophobic Sealant today on a whim and I'm impressed how easy it is to apply. I'm using it with other turtle Wax products like their Snow Foam and Zip Wax shampoo, must admit my car feels very slippery 😆
Forensic detailing has clearly stepped his game up to the next level!#GREATNESS
Thank John for the best video :) all products that I am interested in one video :)
Great test John, i'm glad Tyrtle Wax won.
I have used a number of these products and they hang on well on the top half of the car but are flat within a week or two on th elower half of the side in the wet weather here in Manchester, i'm wondering if there is some abrasion going on from the raod debris fitting the panels.
Could you recreate this wear and tear in a test, perhaps using a snow foam to with dirty/salty water?
Keep up the good work!!
Lots of good info for people to make an informed choice Jon. Thank you👍
So which one out of these all turned out to score the best overall?
I bought the TW Ceramic spray the other day and have given her 2 coats, so waiting for the rain now to see how it performs. It went on very well though after I washed and clayed the car. Although it says it is suitable for glass, I found it quite hard to polish off despite using a clean cloth, so for paint, plastic, and alloys it’s perfect, but stick to a dedicated glass product for windows.
Hi Jon,
Can you help me out, I'm getting really confused with what I should be using to protect my car. I use a wax during the summer/ warmer months, something to enjoy but now that its getting colder what easier and method of protection is there to take me through winter? I have Sonax BSD as lots of people like it but is that really providing any protection (I wash the car, dry and do a quick round with bsd)? Or is that just a detailer thats not really doing anything?
I dont have a machine polisher so won't be able to remove stronger things once weather warms up again. Is a sealant what I need or is that going to be too long lasting? Well confused!
Thanks
ok first up. Get a machine polisher :) DA8 see my review.
So a wax is fine thats all you need. use it all up. dont by any more waxes untill you use up this one.
now in winter you may find that you dont want to be out side and its cold. So I like spray and rinse products in winter. Try Gyeon Wet Coat this is a spray rinse and then dry product and its awesome. feel the paint an hour after application it will be nice and slick. but its so easy to apply no buffing spray rinse dry boom.
also watch
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@@ForensicDetailing Thank you Jon, that's some good advice there. Will take a look at your videos. Will wet coat be difficult to remove in your experience or will it degrade by itself over a few months?
Just for my understanding more than anything, is BSD not really a spray sealant then, just a durable quick detailer? I may have wrongly assumed it was somewhat of a competitor product to the likes of wet coat...?
Thanks again, your channel and posts are forever helpful 👍
Best test I have seen only thing I didn’t see was a good light visual comparison and which one he though had best shine.
Hey John please advise
I want a high gloss protection combo on my car
What do you think of this combo?
Turtle Wax seal and shine
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Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic & Graphene Paste
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TAC systems Shinee wax as a top up after weekly wash
Too many layers mate. Just seal and shine and a qd. Or tac moonlight and shinee wax
Hi John getting into detailing on my first car. Been using the meguiars and turtlewax products and they seem to be working a treat. However I am washing my car with a cheap wash and wax (2 bucket method), drying, and then spraying the product onto the panel, working into the panel with an applicator pad l, followed by buffing off with a separate microfiber. Is this the best prep to get the most out of these products? What can I do to make them last longer? I enjoy washing my car weekly and removing all the light grime, but I don't want to strip the wax each time. What products do you recommend to achieve this? Note I also do everything by hand and don't own a jet wash or snowfoam lance, and am planning on doing a polish with an autoglym super resin polish or meguiars ultimate compound around 6 month intervals.
Hi there this is a long question to answer.
When your Washing use pure wash products.. no wash and wax or ceramic shampoo pure detergents and clean and rinse them all off.
Decon your car when it has contmination and the paint is rough.
Machine polishing it when it has swirls. once paint is good wash it carefully.
protection. Dont overload your paintwork. Find a good base line protection prdocut. like moonlight etc.. apply this after full polishing+panel wipe then apply.
then wash the car often and use a mild detail spray.. dont overload paintwork.
All of these products here make a decent durable sealant choice. to be fair. some are very cheap.
@@ForensicDetailing cheers, any pure wash products you recommend?
Thanks for video what is your favorite.
Good stuff mate, these things are so good for this time of year! Was just wondering, what hose are you using on your jet washer? I'm sick of the damn Karcher hose constantly tying itself into knots, noticed yours looks a lot easier to use!
KArcher standard hose but its the one with the K7 longer and a bit better.. still coils though trick is to walk it all the way out first matt
If I'm using meguairs wash and wax every 2 weeks, is there no point applying a wax ( eg meguairs ultimate liquid) or a sealant( eg autoglym extra gloss protection)? I find the wash and wax gives nearly 2 weeks of water beading.
Jon I take it all these products need to be applied to wax free paint. You can’t put them over other products? Is that right?
only moonlight needs full prep. the others will benefit from prep but can ultimately just be sprayed onto anything.
The Meguires label tells you you *should* apply it over old wax instead of claying.
I found even with claying and polishing the car it doesn't last very long, but in fairness nothing does in the California sun.
I wonder how the ceramic coating will turn out when using the whole series of products together.
I imagine when using all the different TW products in the series you would get more optimal results.
You are a Godsent. Any product Im interested you have the best review/comparison videos.
Wow, thank you
I wonder how much UV affects durability and how it might be tested. I expect 1 day baking in the hot sun will do a lot of damage.
Great test Jon especially as I have all you tested against. I no doubt will get the TW Ceramic although having the others in the test, there’s little point. When does that ever stop me!
I enjoy your videos but...What I am really interested in, is how easy it is to clean a dirty car after using a particular product. It is all well and good looking at sheeting and droplets on the car and repeatedly spraying a clean surface but I don't care how the water runs off or forms droplets. I've used the Turtle Wax Spray Sealant (ranked #1 in your test) and IMO it is useless for shrugging off dirt. I rinsed, snow-foamed and rinsed and there is still a distinct layer of fine dirt on the car (2 year old, low milage, MB living in a garage). Perhaps I'm expecting too much of these products but I really feel tests should reflect real life so we can see how easily the dirt comes off as well as making the car look good. My ideal product would be something that can provide a "touchless" wash.
Can I use Turtle wax ceramic wax for base.
The use Turtle ceramic detailer (3 in 1) top up ?
Magnificent job and well done sir!!
Keep up the amazing work 😄
I really wish you could do a durability test for the Shinee wax.
Thanks again 😄
I think I did see the best detail spray video the most recent one.
Moonlight is still my favorite as well.
Hi John
Could you please say if TW Ceramic spray wax can be removed after application to correct paint under it in tiny area and then reapplied back to that tiny area only one o then have perfect blend ?
you can do this yes mate. just degrease after repolishing
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you very much
P.S I was only able to get stakes free Finnish using dump microfibre .
Black Audi Q7
Turtle wax dry and shine or the turtle wax hybrid sealant? I’ve been using the dry & shine and seem to be getting great results.. can’t see too much difference between the two?
Sealant on a dry prepped panel then use wax as you dry for maintaining the sealant as a topper. Been working phenomenal for me this summer.
I use the Turtle Wax Ceramic Wet Wax as a drying aid and it doesn't half bead. not sure about durability as I try to wash the car every week.
Is fusso going out of production? Are they replacing it with something else? It does smell very chemical, its not super gloss or slick but it does have good protection.
old fusso being replace with new and improved fusso.. new and improved fusso is 50% more expensive.
Moonlight last, John, noooo. It’s still my fave haha
Awesome video Jon!
That where some heavy hitters you put the new TW Hybrid Solution Ceramic Spray Coating against. Impressed with it's durability and the gloss from it. Will see how it's priced here in Sweden when it comes here. It looks like when you use these Hybrid Solution line of products you can get an awesome synergy on your vehicals protection. The HS Ceramic Polish and Wax as the primer and after the 24h cure time apply the Ceramic Spray Coating and maybe another 24h if possible to get 2 layers off it on the paint. It's just for me personally I like to test out different products on my car LOL. But still have this as a base protection and then if wanted to get outside of the TW products could work great. And if it's so durable that you would get a year of longevity from it. Then start over with a polishing step with the Ceramic Polish and Wax and top it with Ceramic Spray Coating again.
Say that I would have this TW HS Ceramic Polish and Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating as the base protection. Then maintance washes with wash products that don't leave anything behind as in protection and glossenhancers. Since it seems to the highest hydrophobic performance wears off quite quickly. Would it be a good thing to just put on another coat with the HS Ceramic Spray Coating every month? Just to keep the hydrophobic performance from it as high as possible during the year before I would be doing a polishing step again. As you get a good amount of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and since the SiO2 in it may not last over a couple of years before it hardens in the bottle. And if you have a car or 2 you can have some of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating left after a couple of years if you use it yearly and top it with another HS product. Have noticed this with other SiO2 products that they have a year of shelf life or just a little more. So it would not be waisting product but more use it up.
Looking forward to see the more in depth video. And other videos about the prep work you have mentioned in other comments.
spot on Tony. Ceramic polish and ceramic spray gonna be the most popular combo i think. I need to get stuck into the ceramic polish testing soon.
Please can we see how the ceramic polish does by hand?
Brilliant video and once again covers all topics in detail. There should be a hell of a lot more subscribers to this channel and I really hope people support Jon on Patreon also. Content is the best on RUclips and most important of all non bias and brutally honest.
Big thumbs up. 👍🏻
Great video again. Only concern are you becoming an "influencer" for Megs and TW or are you still impartial?
I've been using Carplan No1 super-gloss for a while. It says it lasts up to 12 months and is £8 a bottle. I don't think 12 months is accurate though.
can't beat seal and shine for bang for the buck!💯
Excellent update as always.....keep em coming 👍
I’m intrigued by Moonlight. Why is it you favorite of these?
Will test Turtle Wax Ceramic for sure. It looks way easier to apply that the gyeon I used last year.
Which Gyeon?
Do love the verses videos.......Whats the difference between the turtlewax 2 there tested and Turtle Wax Hybrid Dry & Shine Rinse Wax????
Hi love your channe.. l was just wondering what do u recommend for a black car skoda superb in irish weather conditions do u recommend a compound first or a good polish a slight few scrathes on it also only after buying the car it's a 2016 thanks...
eric have a watch of these 4 videos
washing ruclips.net/video/AUytWaLtOOo/видео.html
decon ruclips.net/video/9B9Cn-GeJqw/видео.html
polishing ruclips.net/video/MI_m2rO-OpM/видео.html
products ruclips.net/video/I7q5E8Kz-CY/видео.html
Koch abrasives H8 F6 M3 are what I generally recomend. I cant say whats best for your car with out seeing it. but if you want to go fast and safe do a single stage with F6. For best results do cut and finish with H9 and M3. use flex purples to cut and oranges to finish and use a 8ml Dual Action polisher like in2detailing DA8 or a DAS6 pro.
You`ve hung your cabinet the wrong way up. Love your videos, thanks.
Very keen on how you applied these products with your new pxe80 cordless handheld. Can’t wait till mine comes! I ordered a handful of pands the other day and will post my latest haul
I did apply with the PXE just prepd the panel with it dave.
@@ForensicDetailing can you upload how you used it on forensic unplugged? the real enthusiasts like me would love to see.
Would it be ok to use the turtle ceramic spray and the meguiars ceramic wax on the same car? Like layer them
Turtle wax vs r222 how would they compare as I been using r222 for years
Hi Jon, quick question. How do you feel applying any of those products to car windows? Any other ideas on sealing car windows?
I dont like using any car products on glass. I find them more problematic than beneficial. not everyone agrees with me though.. try like angelwax H2go.. or for a casual one autoglanz vision (cleaner sealant) the autoglanz one I think is very good.
@@ForensicDetailing my thoughts exactly. I have tried once and it just hazed up, had to clean it up. Thanks for the reply
I’m betting in a few months you’ll be able to get TW Ceramic for $5 less just like Mcquiars. The ease of putting on TW ceramic is worth it to me. So easy to wipe on and off, and the polish is just as easy to use. Bottle will last a one or two car person easily a year + too.
Would it be ok to wash a car with BT auto wash when there’s a coat on it or would you say that the auto wash would be too strong thanks
I use tw SS left my car outside in the elements for 5 months, rain still beads off the windows and paint only the windshield where the wipers are completely gone.
I like the look of the wash and ceramic that would seem to be the best value for money as it only requires one cap full for one bucket. Can you test that stuff out? The Turtle wax wash and ceramic coat, please?
What wash product would you recommend to do a so called decontamination wash on my Ceramic coated black car that has a 9 month old TAK System Moonlight coating on top of the ceramic?
Thanks John. Great information as always :) It might be interesting to put some of these products up against Gyeon Can Coat as well. This new turtle wax line seems confusing to me. Polish and Wax? Surely you'd want to apply the TW sealant to the clear coat? Also you wouldn't want to wash your car with this before you polished it, as it has a wax component? The detailer description reads like a waterless wash?
Different format applications, but how would you rate hydrophobicity and durability of TW Hybrid Sealant vs TW Dry & Shine?
Is better the new fusso?
I tried the Turtle Wax Spray and Shine after you and Pan gave it amazing reviews. I didn't get good results unfortunately. It was SUPER streaky and a pain to remove. I'd love to try the new product, but I have such a bitter taste in my mouth about the other product.
a lot of people (or lets say some) say this about seal and shine, I just dont see if. but will do more on this subject matter soon.
@UCVBbN8fvqtHylzPb0VotTEA I've literally done one spray onto a microfiber on a squeeky clean car (3 in fact) and had the same issues. I bought it in summer, so I thought it was because it was the heat (not direct sunlight) and had the same issues on a cool cloudy day.
I get so much better results with other products. I didn't see the point in fighting to try make it work, when I have products like Liquid Crystal or even BSD that I have no problems with at all.
I guess if there wasn't 'personal preference' and there was only "the best," then their wouldn't be a market. It just didn't work for me, over the six months I'd forced myself to go and try again.
Pan will say anything for a few quid though.
@@haroldchipman7696 yeah, i think the same.
Chicken Chargrilla Agree, always found his reviews are always positive and more like a sponsored advert instead of feeling honest and constructive.
If im going from a car covered in Megwiers Ultimate wax to turtle wax ceramic wax, do i need to wash off the previous wax completely with a compound or can i just soap and water wash then apply?
if your doing it properly then full prep with a pure abrasive and then a degreaser panel wipe for this abrasive is the only way to give a 100% product free clean surface. But lots just wash the car dry it, maybe a quick panel wipe, then apply the top up or next protection over the top of whatever is there. Its up to you. but its good to prep properly really.