Would be great to see a durability test of the best ceramic sealants Vs the best non ceramic sealants for a future video. Great video and attention to detail as usual John ❤
I’ve watched this channel for almost 5 years now, it’s been an absolute fountain of knowledge for me, and many detailers I know. On this occasion John I think you’ve got the weightings wrong, for a product to come top in durability, gloss and high scoring in slickness & repellency but finish up near bottom shows this. When I’m shopping for a coating the above qualities are what I look for. Great entertainment as always though👍🏻
yer this can often be the case though. But by doing these mop up videos we delve into exactly the point you made. Performance wise it was the best in the test. And to be fair ive done a seperate review on it. If I like it I always let you know.
just to ad to this, the value needs to be looked at different. it can be an expensive product but if you only need to apply once every 3-6 months that actually the same or better than a cheaper product that you need to apply weekly. so it needs to be looked at over time and the amount needed in that time or like you mostly do price per application and then the time it lasts for that 1 application. not price per liter
Value and Durability should be a combo rating....Cost per litre for the SiRamik is high, but one application last so long that you're actually saving money
Had SiRamik on my car for 14 months. I couldn't get it off even with neat surfex, neat panel wipe, Megs Wash Plus. It's so god damn durable. Best kept secret in detailing tbh
appreciate it m8. Its a very tough time on you tube right now. they are diverting views to viral trend content in a bid to turn young people into content creators. so the good news if is your 12 years old and you like miming over the top of the latest viral trend you could get 50 million views for 15 seconds work. But if your spending months testing car cleaning products this really does not tickle the algorythms so you get 10k views and loose money. this is my number 1 challenge and Im only able to do it because of the passion of the smaller audience that watch. appreciate you taking the time to comment and watch I mean that.
I note some criticism of the scoring method, specifically cost, in the comments. However, i really like the way you do these testing. It's easy enough just to ignore any column that is not relevant to the viewer. Also, the round up section really helps summarise each product. Keep up the great work!
I agree. I knock out value and user experience as I don’t care. It’s still easy to calculate the winner for me each time. Great videos and enjoyable personality. All the best to you all.
Yeah, value means what you get for what you pay not what is the cost. Even with higher pricing but with better performance then that's the value. ScottHD value system is better gives out how long the products last and their cost per ml.
I’m happy to see that Menzerna finished up well. Quite frankly, it’s one of the only brands that I always trust, along with Bilt Hamber. When they release a product, I know that it will work every time, and that I won’t regret buying it.
Thanks for all your efforts John, super detailed as usual! I do think you are giving too much emphasis on cost rather than 'value'. If a product is twice as expensive as another, but lasts 3 times as long, that is good 'value'. Its just happens to be more expensive. The SiRamik stuff started at a massive disadvantage that it was never going to claw back, even though it was very near the top in every other category. So coming 6th out of 10 can't be right.
@@jamesstanley7263 I agree, I never weight the scores the way Jon does but he puts the full info up for you to decide yourself, everyone has different priorities when it comes to product performance so it's near impossible to please everyone with the scoring. Even Jon at the end puts the Siramik in his personal top 3, me personally I put durability and water behaviour top, followed by gloss, everything else is much lower down on my list, but someone else might want to try a different LSP every month and user experience for them might be top.
That's what I said a couple of times. The only things that are important are performance and availability. Most of the shown products are not available in the rest of Europe !
I’ve had Siramik on my car for about 16 months and still beading so well. It does live in the garage and approx 4k miles a year. But still very impressive. Put on my dad’s car and still beading nicely after a year. Recently added to my girlfriend’s car so will see how it performs on a live outside daily. I put the sprayer in my panel wipe bottle and sprayed out the product and it works next time no problem as nothing left to go hard.
I picked up a bottle of the collinite per your recommendation, I like it, used on my motorcycle with great results as you fellas would say it's a cracken product.
Thanks I think I’m going to go with it too. My local supplier popped out a bunch of the collinite new products and was wondering on reviews now I know I’m good.
Forensic channel at its best! Top job Jon. I've been using Koch SOo2 most of this year on entry level Details, and have been quite pleased with it. It goes a long way, My biggest issue with it has been with durability strangely, I've found with anything that isn't near enough PH neutral simply washes it away. GSF though is my go to on regular maintenance washes and it copes well with this. I've found Touchless though wipes it out easily. Its quick and fool proof to apply. The gloss enhancement doesn't worry me, the skill in the prep is what gives the best shine! So You have given me good food for thought, and I'll mix it up a bit now. Particularly want to try the Collinite as its a brand I rate highly. (and insulator wax or 476 are my choice on my own stuff.... Don't tell anyone, I'd lose a fortune!)
Hey Cole, i believe you detailed my Phaeton W12 last month, truly incredible job! I've asked the garage who I booked through for contact details as I have other work for you and I wish to contact you direct. They refused to pass these on. Could you post contact details please?
@@TheThewindymiller I remember your super rare and incredible car well. Privilege to work on such a well kept vehicle its a real credit to you.. However my business is geared up and insured only to work to a very small group of strictly Motor Trade only customers. Also in fairness to Jon's excellent channel he isn't a referral service! I believe Mark (who you know well!) has appointments available in mid Oct. Please contact him if you want to boo. with us again.
@@TheThewindymiller Hi, I remember your Phaeton well, its a really nice car and a credit to you. I work exclusively to selected motor traders so please book again through Mark as you did with the Phaeton. We will prioritise your booking and get you in towards the end of the month if that works for you.
Thanks for taking the time to do such an in depth test. I think Gyeon CanCoat is a spray sealant and would have one hands down. I bought some Bead Coat after one of your previous reviews and its durability is not great. However it is nice to useas a topper but I would recommend CanCoat every time.
Well, thank you Sir. You did the comparison as promised. And I do agree with how you graded them, and how Collinite came out on top. However the durability of Koch Chemie is why I use it prior to winter and Collinite more for summer. Great review!
Said to you a while ago about the Siramik Lustrous+ & glad to see you're impressed, I knew you would be 😉 Not very often a genuine game changer product comes along that achieves all it's claims. 12 months on my car & it's still going. If you treat it like a coating with regards to declogging it, it will give any lite ceramic a run for it's money & no top ups necessary with it either. Great video mate & loving the new durability testing method, definitely an improvement to the tests 👍
I've been using the Beadcoat a little over two weeks now. I wash at least once a week, but often twice (So 4 washes). Car stays outside 100% of the time. Hydrophobics have degraded slightly, but coverage is still 100%. I can tell that the most significant degrading was after my APC (Greenstar)+Turtle Wax Pure Soap foam. I apply the foam and immediately rinse away after I achieve full coverage. With just regular washes and and no APC rinse, I think I could reasonably get 2 months which is all I was wanting from this. I do wipe down the car with the Slikr detailer (out of a Flairosol bottle) after each wash. The way I plan on using the Beadcoat is to do an APC rinse every other month + regular contact wash and do a re application of Beadcoat. The ease of use is through the roof.
The new "advanced" Adam's Graphene Ceramic Spray is my absolute favorite and it provides incredible gloss, longevity, and protection. I usually put 3 coats on each of our own cars and they are good for well beyond a year, possibly 18 solid months. Seriously good stuff.
Knew Siramik would do well, it needs more exposure like this it's a really good product, could be cheaper but then it does last longer than pretty much anything, so when you factor that in you could treat the price as half really
@@keithblacknell957 Same. The product is clearly very good, it just needs to be rebranded and given a premium look, as much as I'm all about function over form, form sells.
Please give us a short update on the SiRamik in a week or two if possible and see what it takes to degrade it. Perhaps a comparison against a lite ceramic for a future video. As others have mentioned there is a big community for this product as it’s just incredible.
i've been using Collinite products for well over 30+ years. I used to put it on my patrol cars when I was a cop and it was freakin' fantastic. I always used the Super Double Coat from Collinite. It was the precursor to Fusso from Soft 99 and a super durable synthetic wax blend. Very durable wax, and it was my primary wax for many years and did well all year around, but especially in the wintertime against road salts, etc. I am definitely going to purchase the Collinite Spray Sealant. It's cheaper for us here in the States since it's made in New York I believe. It's a family company also and has been around a LONG time, since the 1930's or something like that so Collinite has a lot of experience with protective waxes. Their 845 Insulator Wax was actually used on glass conductors on electrical poles many years ago and that is what it was designed for originally, however, car enthusiasts soon learned that it worked wonders on vehicle paint also and a very high reflectivity and oily type of wax. It's a great topper wax for gloss! Thanks for posting Jon. I appreciate it. I actually have had the Collinite in my Amazon cart for the past couple weeks but didn't buy it yet.
Great test John. Glad you’re doing more of these detailed tests again. One idea: I get that this focused on new products, but it would be good to have the best of the previous ceramic spray test (or an established favourite) in the test as a benchmark. How does the Collinite compare with TW Seal n Shine?
Lot of work expended for this. Appreciate the comprehensive and right-sized rundown. Hate how pricy these products are over there. In the States we gripe about inflation, but I can still grab Collinite for $25…and have it delivered to my front door within a day. 🤯
At last an American that understands that these products prices just destroy every aspect of them here in EU, also the avalability is super poor, you need to order off US Amazon and the delivery doubles the price of each of these, not to mention 2 week (minimum) waiting time. I hate how Bilt Hamber and Koch Chemie are expensive in the States there. Cheers Mr. Snail for understanding us here in the EU.
Also what's just sick in my mind is that Labocosmetica (MAFRA's luxury line) just pisses on all of the EU, and it's almost unavalible even in Italy wich is it's country of origin (thats just twisted and plain stupid) and many brands prefer to just skip our market and go straight to the US, i have no respect and won't ever buy stuff from companies who don't respect the customer like that.
@@victoryensured7137 Your point underscores the imbalance in the assessment criteria of these products as well. Once a product is “$179” for a topper, it had better have sparks flying off of it. Value and user experience win the day.
Heya jon .. in the end I tried a lake country dimpled pad & menzerna 2400 & it did a great job, thanks for your advice & reply,i couldn't put my hand on scholl over here 👍🏻👍🏻
Initial thoughts on Beadcoat: the directions are large enough and clear enough on the label to not need my reading specs. I appreciate that these days. It goes on super easy, decent QD easy. It doesn't feel slick to me. The scent has made me hungry, I need Battenberg.
Menzerna, collinite are such underrated brands. The people who use them know they are no nonsense performance but they don’t have the appeal like carpro and gyeon
Hi John totally enjoyed this one I bought and tried collonite totally amazing on my black car gloss is hi I always get people saying what a shine on that car thank you for doing this test
Superb work John, another great one! I'm glad we have you to test these things for us, a lot of hard work indeed. It's a shame though that 90% of those are not avalible in the EU, and probably won't be, only Koch, Menzerna and P&S (and maybe Chemical Guys but who cares about them xD) are here (good old Germans, zanke a lot mein friends xD) but im watching for entertaiment purposes ;)
Mega mega test, I feel you've covered all the based, I like how you've given your personal feelings too- that's quite important. I had a feeling about the Si ramic product doing well. Menzerna came out of nowhere and obviously Collinite would do well. Something to mull over. What happened to including Gtechiq C2 and Carpro Reload 2.0? Did they not want to be included?
I do rate NV Boost. V1 was lovely and just ordered V2 from in2detailing. Maybe something you can add for the future - would be interesting how it performs in your tests.
Bead it up causes way too much dust collection. Its the same as bead maker when it comes to dust. I currently live in Germany and within one day of using bead it up, my car is covered in a layer of dust that did not exist prior to using the product. I have started to do a spray of bead it up and a spray of final touch on a panel to see if that helps with dust. Bead it up is very slick on my 2024 Audi S5. It does allow water to bead very well on my glass when driving 50-140mph on the Autobahn, I dont need my wipers. I am not sure why you dont say it doesnt bead well but I also have a base layer of Meg's Ultimate Wax under it.
Ive been using Bead It Up for over 12 months and never had any problems with dust. Beadmaker is a dust magnet though! I really like the Bead It Up and bought a gallon of it when my bottle ran out. The slickness is amazing and i see a real nice gloss from it, more than a lot of my many other spray sealants, which just goes to show that what the eye sees and what the gloss meter sees can be two very different things. As for beading, it does bead but they are not as tight and round as some of the other products ive got. The mango/pineapple fragrance is out of this world. 3D also make the newer GLW SiO2 ceramic detailer which is more durable and gives tighter beading but its not as slick and the gloss isnt as good as Bead It Up IMO.
The best spray sealant I’ve come across is the ADBL Synthetic Spray Wax. Dirt cheap, highly concentrated, one of the most hydrophobic properties and good durability. Unfortunately it’s not so wide spread but maybe you can get your hands on it at some point. Would love to hear your opinion about it.
Received a bottle of Siramik lustrous today from HDD and interestingly it didn't ship with a spray trigger only with a child safety cap and a drop cap in the box. A ceramic "spray" without a spray trigger
I'm new to this channel but am finding it amazingly useful. My wife and I recently traded in our much beloved Volvo V70 Classic after 21 years and over 160,000 miles. It was red and I had to stay on top of the detailing to ensure that oxidisation didn't turn it white (this happened to a neighbour of ours). I managed to maintain a finish like glass, and many people over the years commented on how good it looked, so I must have been doing something right. I leant towards Meguairs products which I found gave me the results I wanted, I even invested in one of their polishers. We now have a Honda HRV with a Ceramic finish and I was very interested to watched the videos on Colinite, which my wife may be buying me for Christmas. I have two questions - 1. I would normally have clay barred my Volvo once a year, I'm assuming I can't use clay on a cermaic finish, what is the best product to get those annoying little bits off the car before appling products like Colinite? 2. Can i still use the polisher on a Ceramic Finish? Brilliant videos Jon, you really do a deep dive into every aspect of the products. I admit that I never heard of many of these products but have already invested in Snow Foam and some of the cloths you recommend. It has been and continues to be an education.
so if its got a coating mate. avoid clay bars and abrasive polish. you can remove little tar spots or tree sap with a mild tar and glue remover. Milder one would be valet pro. You can also use a citrus wash to help reduce the build up of that sort of stuff.
Since I'm in the States, the two I would be most interested in trying would be Defender from P & S & Armour Detail Supply. I have never heard a bad thing from ADS, but because of cost, I would go with P & S Defender. ADS cost twice as much as Defender, per gallon. Thanks for the info. ...
Siramik is head and shoulders above all those products! Its been on my car 10 months now and still beads like day 1! It may cost 50 quid but it's worth every penny and more!
@@DavidC1it lasts so much longer. Value isn’t taken into account. When durability and performance is taken into account, then it’s a no brainer. Best sealant on the market.
@matsudakodo not really! 50 quid is nowhere near the cost of a good ceramic coating! I have a few siramik products and they are all excellent for the price.
@victoryensured7137 I can assure you it doesn't. I've used cancoat on my own personal cars over for 4 year before moving to SiRamik Lustrous+ last year. My Stinger is out on the driveway, had 0 top ups & it's still beading well, maybe 60% of how it was performing on initial application & that's on ALL panels, not just the roof. The Siramik is a lite coating in itself. An extremely user friendly one with better slickness than something like Cancoat.
@@BrianW1612 If John says it's a spray sealant its a spray sealant for me, would have to coat my daily with half Cancoat Evo half Siramik to properly test them, unfortunately we don't have Siramik here in Poland and probably won't have it ever so.. I can only speculate. But I'm glad you like it!
@@victoryensured7137 it doesn’t matter what you want to call it, at the end of the day, it’s the performance and durability that counts. As Brian says, CanCoat absolutely doesn’t blow SiRamik Lustrous + out of the water, in fact, having used both, Lustrous + has much better long term performance than CanCoat. It’s a game changer of a product, nothing I’ve used in 18 years has the performance/ease of use blend.
Hey John. That Chemicla Guys one has been discontinued I believe since last year. The new version is called Hydrocharge+ Plus. I dont thinks is any better just saying 😂
Thanks JD, a while back, you did a review where the bead maker came up on top. It's an amazing product for topping up your paint protection, and I'm sold on it. What's the difference between these products and the bead maker? Should I switch over to one of these? If so, why?
Amazing video. I think I’ll go for the siramik but when I click on your link I’m taken to what looks like the produce but a price of 23 pounds for 100ml or 44 something for 250ml. This seems cheap compared to the 179 pounds in your video. However don’t know the size of your bottle. Possibly much bigger.
Hi Jon, thanks for this test, really enjoyed the conten but, i have 1 question, when you refer to "stronger chemicals" what were you referring to, what did you use to degrade the Collinite and Vonex? All the best.
Judging by other posts, the durability of Siramik on car paint is impressive. So a bottle will last much longer than many other sealants thereby giving better value for money. But how long does it last in the bottle? Just wondered what the shelf life is. Presume there is no indication on the instructions?
@@ForensicDetailingShelf life is approximately 2 years from time of opening and needs to be shook regularly which I believe is the biggest downside. I give the bottle a swish every 3 weeks or so.
think ive had mine 18 months, best advice is clear the spray head like you need to with Gyeon CanCoat, otherwise it will harden in the nozzle, I put a normal cap on mine when storing it.
@@ForensicDetailing I thought that also until I saw you can buying them or pre-order them jhon you should Google it I found them more then one website I believe there is one video on RUclips about it let see if I can find it for you.
As per my thread on DW (Rappy) and other DW members. Your results are exactly what we have been seeing for almost 3 yrs 👍 It is more like a lite ceramic, which is where it's price & performance is aligned to. Hopefully Russ & Shane have seen your review 😊 Please do further testing & compare to lite ceramics. Carpro, Gyeon etc....
Has the colour been added back I thought it was removed and was clear the last time I check the thread? I’m still on my v1.2 bottle. Haven’t been in the DW thread for a while
Hi john, I've just brought some yum cars ceramic spray sealant and yum wax and I've brought some autoglym SRP. So after I've put on the SRP would it be ok to put the ceramic spray sealant on and then the wax or would you recommend a different approach John.
SRP then wax or spray sealant mate. typically though the wax will sit on top of the glaze no issue. but the glaze might not be the perfect base for the sealant. but SRP then wax. And in 2-3 months when protection is dying try the sealant mate
mmm the video is great, however the scoring criteria is very controversial, although 3D and Menzerna have more points in the cost category, for example in LATAM that does not happen and many times those are more expensive than others on the list, for example For example, Koch Chemie SO02 is a very good product and the results indicate that it has little shine and durability, I find it very difficult to believe because I have used it many times on different cars and the results are incredible. I appreciate your video but I have more questions than answers.
So you can't compare regional prices m8 when you do a review just your countries prices. Koch results showed good durability but not good gloss increment. The gloss meter cannot lie but there can be other factors at play like error or prep or application issue.
Can you use Collinite beadcoat as a topper for Collinite 845? Currently using Jescar Power lock polymer and Collinite 845. Looks great, but not very hydrophobic.
I think we knew what would win a few weeks ago John 😂 . Just a thought-as I read a lot of the comments, maybe there should be an alternative results line up just stripping out the cost- lots of people don’t seem to care about cost if the rest of it is ace (us weekend warriors anyway 😂)
Would be great to see a durability test of the best ceramic sealants Vs the best non ceramic sealants for a future video.
Great video and attention to detail as usual John ❤
I’ve watched this channel for almost 5 years now, it’s been an absolute fountain of knowledge for me, and many detailers I know.
On this occasion John I think you’ve got the weightings wrong, for a product to come top in durability, gloss and high scoring in slickness & repellency but finish up near bottom shows this.
When I’m shopping for a coating the above qualities are what I look for.
Great entertainment as always though👍🏻
yer this can often be the case though. But by doing these mop up videos we delve into exactly the point you made. Performance wise it was the best in the test. And to be fair ive done a seperate review on it. If I like it I always let you know.
just to ad to this, the value needs to be looked at different. it can be an expensive product but if you only need to apply once every 3-6 months that actually the same or better than a cheaper product that you need to apply weekly. so it needs to be looked at over time and the amount needed in that time or like you mostly do price per application and then the time it lasts for that 1 application. not price per liter
Value and Durability should be a combo rating....Cost per litre for the SiRamik is high, but one application last so long that you're actually saving money
BH need to get a ceramic out!
Had SiRamik on my car for 14 months. I couldn't get it off even with neat surfex, neat panel wipe, Megs Wash Plus. It's so god damn durable. Best kept secret in detailing tbh
Thanks for this... I didn't win, but your confirmation is enough to make me buy some. Great stuff!
Have compared to can coat E o?
Lot of bloody work go into that test, thanks for sharing Jon 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
This video and channel deserves way more views. All of the effort John puts in is really amazing and appreciated! Cheers from across the pond! 🇺🇸
appreciate it m8. Its a very tough time on you tube right now. they are diverting views to viral trend content in a bid to turn young people into content creators. so the good news if is your 12 years old and you like miming over the top of the latest viral trend you could get 50 million views for 15 seconds work. But if your spending months testing car cleaning products this really does not tickle the algorythms so you get 10k views and loose money. this is my number 1 challenge and Im only able to do it because of the passion of the smaller audience that watch. appreciate you taking the time to comment and watch I mean that.
I note some criticism of the scoring method, specifically cost, in the comments. However, i really like the way you do these testing. It's easy enough just to ignore any column that is not relevant to the viewer. Also, the round up section really helps summarise each product. Keep up the great work!
I agree. I knock out value and user experience as I don’t care. It’s still easy to calculate the winner for me each time. Great videos and enjoyable personality. All the best to you all.
Yeah, value means what you get for what you pay not what is the cost. Even with higher pricing but with better performance then that's the value. ScottHD value system is better gives out how long the products last and their cost per ml.
I’m happy to see that Menzerna finished up well. Quite frankly, it’s one of the only brands that I always trust, along with Bilt Hamber. When they release a product, I know that it will work every time, and that I won’t regret buying it.
Menz has that wow factor on application but it's more a ceramic detailer perhaps
Thanks for all your efforts John, super detailed as usual! I do think you are giving too much emphasis on cost rather than 'value'. If a product is twice as expensive as another, but lasts 3 times as long, that is good 'value'. Its just happens to be more expensive. The SiRamik stuff started at a massive disadvantage that it was never going to claw back, even though it was very near the top in every other category. So coming 6th out of 10 can't be right.
Maybe but user experience worth 30 marks. Performance testing 40 marks. Value 20 marks...
@@jamesstanley7263 I agree, I never weight the scores the way Jon does but he puts the full info up for you to decide yourself, everyone has different priorities when it comes to product performance so it's near impossible to please everyone with the scoring. Even Jon at the end puts the Siramik in his personal top 3, me personally I put durability and water behaviour top, followed by gloss, everything else is much lower down on my list, but someone else might want to try a different LSP every month and user experience for them might be top.
If you remove the points from price, 1. is Collinite. 2. is SiRamik. 3. is Armour. 4. is Menzerna.
That's what I said a couple of times. The only things that are important are performance and availability.
Most of the shown products are not available in the rest of Europe !
@@musikus7092 The american products can be ordered from US amazon fairly cheap. at least where i live (an EU country)
I’ve had Siramik on my car for about 16 months and still beading so well. It does live in the garage and approx 4k miles a year. But still very impressive. Put on my dad’s car and still beading nicely after a year. Recently added to my girlfriend’s car so will see how it performs on a live outside daily.
I put the sprayer in my panel wipe bottle and sprayed out the product and it works next time no problem as nothing left to go hard.
Same here mate 👍
Thank you for giving Ceramic Spray Sealant a try! Great testing.
Do you know if he used v2?
I picked up a bottle of the collinite per your recommendation, I like it, used on my motorcycle with great results as you fellas would say it's a cracken product.
Thanks I think I’m going to go with it too. My local supplier popped out a bunch of the collinite new products and was wondering on reviews now I know I’m good.
Forensic channel at its best! Top job Jon. I've been using Koch SOo2 most of this year on entry level Details, and have been quite pleased with it. It goes a long way, My biggest issue with it has been with durability strangely, I've found with anything that isn't near enough PH neutral simply washes it away. GSF though is my go to on regular maintenance washes and it copes well with this. I've found Touchless though wipes it out easily. Its quick and fool proof to apply. The gloss enhancement doesn't worry me, the skill in the prep is what gives the best shine! So You have given me good food for thought, and I'll mix it up a bit now. Particularly want to try the Collinite as its a brand I rate highly. (and insulator wax or 476 are my choice on my own stuff.... Don't tell anyone, I'd lose a fortune!)
Hey Cole, i believe you detailed my Phaeton W12 last month, truly incredible job! I've asked the garage who I booked through for contact details as I have other work for you and I wish to contact you direct. They refused to pass these on. Could you post contact details please?
@@TheThewindymiller I remember your super rare and incredible car well. Privilege to work on such a well kept vehicle its a real credit to you.. However my business is geared up and insured only to work to a very small group of strictly Motor Trade only customers. Also in fairness to Jon's excellent channel he isn't a referral service! I believe Mark (who you know well!) has appointments available in mid Oct. Please contact him if you want to boo. with us again.
@@coletorrens1121 On the "Apex Detailing" channel the durability was impressive with the Koch Chemie
@@musikus7092 Hmm interesting! I am a big lover of Koch Chemie products and use them extensively. Its still a great product either way imho.
@@TheThewindymiller Hi, I remember your Phaeton well, its a really nice car and a credit to you. I work exclusively to selected motor traders so please book again through Mark as you did with the Phaeton. We will prioritise your booking and get you in towards the end of the month if that works for you.
Thanks for taking the time to do such an in depth test. I think Gyeon CanCoat is a spray sealant and would have one hands down. I bought some Bead Coat after one of your previous reviews and its durability is not great. However it is nice to useas a topper but I would recommend CanCoat every time.
Well, thank you Sir. You did the comparison as promised. And I do agree with how you graded them, and how Collinite came out on top. However the durability of Koch Chemie is why I use it prior to winter and Collinite more for summer. Great review!
Thanks
A huge thank you sir. Your support drives this testing and this money will go back into the pot for buying the rinseless washes in the next test
Said to you a while ago about the Siramik Lustrous+ & glad to see you're impressed, I knew you would be 😉
Not very often a genuine game changer product comes along that achieves all it's claims. 12 months on my car & it's still going. If you treat it like a coating with regards to declogging it, it will give any lite ceramic a run for it's money & no top ups necessary with it either.
Great video mate & loving the new durability testing method, definitely an improvement to the tests 👍
Cheers Brian
@@BrianW1612aye it’s very good. Glad you got some eventually 😅
Brian, agreed mate 👍 The DW secret, that Jon has exposed on his channel 😂😂
Love that you have a chart in the background. Thanks for your work 🙏🏼
I've been using the Beadcoat a little over two weeks now.
I wash at least once a week, but often twice (So 4 washes). Car stays outside 100% of the time.
Hydrophobics have degraded slightly, but coverage is still 100%.
I can tell that the most significant degrading was after my APC (Greenstar)+Turtle Wax Pure Soap foam.
I apply the foam and immediately rinse away after I achieve full coverage.
With just regular washes and and no APC rinse, I think I could reasonably get 2 months which is all I was wanting from this.
I do wipe down the car with the Slikr detailer (out of a Flairosol bottle) after each wash.
The way I plan on using the Beadcoat is to do an APC rinse every other month + regular contact wash and do a re application of Beadcoat.
The ease of use is through the roof.
It would be interested to compare siramik to can coat eco. They are around the same price and appear to have similar durability.
I was thinking the same thing...
Really liked this test. A thoroughly detailed review as always. Thanks for another great upload.
The new "advanced" Adam's Graphene Ceramic Spray is my absolute favorite and it provides incredible gloss, longevity, and protection. I usually put 3 coats on each of our own cars and they are good for well beyond a year, possibly 18 solid months. Seriously good stuff.
Knew Siramik would do well, it needs more exposure like this it's a really good product, could be cheaper but then it does last longer than pretty much anything, so when you factor that in you could treat the price as half really
If they want more exposure they need to market it better. If it wasn't for this review I wouldn't pick it off a shelf.
Interesting feedback. I agree.
@@keithblacknell957 Same. The product is clearly very good, it just needs to be rebranded and given a premium look, as much as I'm all about function over form, form sells.
Ya, I didn’t know it existed
Brilliant testing John thank you, I think I will try the Collinite
Thank you for your time and energy. It's very important for me
Please give us a short update on the SiRamik in a week or two if possible and see what it takes to degrade it. Perhaps a comparison against a lite ceramic for a future video. As others have mentioned there is a big community for this product as it’s just incredible.
Will do
perfect follow up test, Siramik vs light ceramics
i've been using Collinite products for well over 30+ years. I used to put it on my patrol cars when I was a cop and it was freakin' fantastic. I always used the Super Double Coat from Collinite. It was the precursor to Fusso from Soft 99 and a super durable synthetic wax blend. Very durable wax, and it was my primary wax for many years and did well all year around, but especially in the wintertime against road salts, etc. I am definitely going to purchase the Collinite Spray Sealant. It's cheaper for us here in the States since it's made in New York I believe. It's a family company also and has been around a LONG time, since the 1930's or something like that so Collinite has a lot of experience with protective waxes. Their 845 Insulator Wax was actually used on glass conductors on electrical poles many years ago and that is what it was designed for originally, however, car enthusiasts soon learned that it worked wonders on vehicle paint also and a very high reflectivity and oily type of wax. It's a great topper wax for gloss! Thanks for posting Jon. I appreciate it. I actually have had the Collinite in my Amazon cart for the past couple weeks but didn't buy it yet.
love a bit of collinite as well Joe :)
That was a lot of work! Thanks for a great video Jon.
Enjoyed your efforts on this one John, great job.
Amazing information as always and enjoy the humour. Just purchased the No 1 in your test. Cheers o'mighty one
Thanks all the way from Hawaii! It appears you Brits are car lovers as much as we Yankees. Thanks for this vid my man, and aloha!
Great test John. Glad you’re doing more of these detailed tests again. One idea: I get that this focused on new products, but it would be good to have the best of the previous ceramic spray test (or an established favourite) in the test as a benchmark. How does the Collinite compare with TW Seal n Shine?
Lot of work expended for this. Appreciate the comprehensive and right-sized rundown.
Hate how pricy these products are over there. In the States we gripe about inflation, but I can still grab Collinite for $25…and have it delivered to my front door within a day. 🤯
At last an American that understands that these products prices just destroy every aspect of them here in EU, also the avalability is super poor, you need to order off US Amazon and the delivery doubles the price of each of these, not to mention 2 week (minimum) waiting time. I hate how Bilt Hamber and Koch Chemie are expensive in the States there. Cheers Mr. Snail for understanding us here in the EU.
Also what's just sick in my mind is that Labocosmetica (MAFRA's luxury line) just pisses on all of the EU, and it's almost unavalible even in Italy wich is it's country of origin (thats just twisted and plain stupid) and many brands prefer to just skip our market and go straight to the US, i have no respect and won't ever buy stuff from companies who don't respect the customer like that.
@@victoryensured7137 Your point underscores the imbalance in the assessment criteria of these products as well. Once a product is “$179” for a topper, it had better have sparks flying off of it. Value and user experience win the day.
Heya jon .. in the end I tried a lake country dimpled pad & menzerna 2400 & it did a great job, thanks for your advice & reply,i couldn't put my hand on scholl over here 👍🏻👍🏻
Love these shootouts Jon 👍🏼
Good work here John. I will stick to my Turtlewax ice seal n shine as I have loads of it, its relatively cheap and durable
Snap ... I just wrote the same
@@EireFirst2024 yeah it's hard to beat at it's price, I got the 5l valet range at like £12 or so. That will last me a few years 😂
Yup. It’s my go to stuff. Love it
Fantastic video and review. 👍
Initial thoughts on Beadcoat: the directions are large enough and clear enough on the label to not need my reading specs. I appreciate that these days. It goes on super easy, decent QD easy. It doesn't feel slick to me. The scent has made me hungry, I need Battenberg.
Great and super helpful. Thanks as always
Menzerna, collinite are such underrated brands. The people who use them know they are no nonsense performance but they don’t have the appeal like carpro and gyeon
Hi John totally enjoyed this one I bought and tried collonite totally amazing on my black car gloss is hi I always get people saying what a shine on that car thank you for doing this test
Superb work John, another great one! I'm glad we have you to test these things for us, a lot of hard work indeed. It's a shame though that 90% of those are not avalible in the EU, and probably won't be, only Koch, Menzerna and P&S (and maybe Chemical Guys but who cares about them xD) are here (good old Germans, zanke a lot mein friends xD) but im watching for entertaiment purposes ;)
Mega mega test, I feel you've covered all the based, I like how you've given your personal feelings too- that's quite important. I had a feeling about the Si ramic product doing well. Menzerna came out of nowhere and obviously Collinite would do well. Something to mull over. What happened to including Gtechiq C2 and Carpro Reload 2.0? Did they not want to be included?
We done the other 2 many times m8
I do rate NV Boost. V1 was lovely and just ordered V2 from in2detailing. Maybe something you can add for the future - would be interesting how it performs in your tests.
Thanks Jon 🫡
I'm not seeing Siramik available in the US. But I just finished my gallon of Defender, so I'm looking to Collimate for my next one! Thanks Jon!
Bead it up causes way too much dust collection. Its the same as bead maker when it comes to dust. I currently live in Germany and within one day of using bead it up, my car is covered in a layer of dust that did not exist prior to using the product. I have started to do a spray of bead it up and a spray of final touch on a panel to see if that helps with dust.
Bead it up is very slick on my 2024 Audi S5. It does allow water to bead very well on my glass when driving 50-140mph on the Autobahn, I dont need my wipers. I am not sure why you dont say it doesnt bead well but I also have a base layer of Meg's Ultimate Wax under it.
Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that with beadmaker. Total deal breaker.
Ive been using Bead It Up for over 12 months and never had any problems with dust. Beadmaker is a dust magnet though! I really like the Bead It Up and bought a gallon of it when my bottle ran out. The slickness is amazing and i see a real nice gloss from it, more than a lot of my many other spray sealants, which just goes to show that what the eye sees and what the gloss meter sees can be two very different things. As for beading, it does bead but they are not as tight and round as some of the other products ive got. The mango/pineapple fragrance is out of this world. 3D also make the newer GLW SiO2 ceramic detailer which is more durable and gives tighter beading but its not as slick and the gloss isnt as good as Bead It Up IMO.
@@Almost_Made_It Bead maker the Deal Braker xD
The best spray sealant I’ve come across is the ADBL Synthetic Spray Wax. Dirt cheap, highly concentrated, one of the most hydrophobic properties and good durability. Unfortunately it’s not so wide spread but maybe you can get your hands on it at some point. Would love to hear your opinion about it.
Are they worth it against TW Ceramic Spray Coating? 5 years old ceramic sealant that seems better then new ones
Received a bottle of Siramik lustrous today from HDD and interestingly it didn't ship with a spray trigger only with a child safety cap and a drop cap in the box. A ceramic "spray" without a spray trigger
I'm new to this channel but am finding it amazingly useful. My wife and I recently traded in our much beloved Volvo V70 Classic after 21 years and over 160,000 miles. It was red and I had to stay on top of the detailing to ensure that oxidisation didn't turn it white (this happened to a neighbour of ours). I managed to maintain a finish like glass, and many people over the years commented on how good it looked, so I must have been doing something right. I leant towards Meguairs products which I found gave me the results I wanted, I even invested in one of their polishers.
We now have a Honda HRV with a Ceramic finish and I was very interested to watched the videos on Colinite, which my wife may be buying me for Christmas. I have two questions -
1. I would normally have clay barred my Volvo once a year, I'm assuming I can't use clay on a cermaic finish, what is the best product to get those annoying little bits off the car before appling products like Colinite?
2. Can i still use the polisher on a Ceramic Finish?
Brilliant videos Jon, you really do a deep dive into every aspect of the products. I admit that I never heard of many of these products but have already invested in Snow Foam and some of the cloths you recommend. It has been and continues to be an education.
so if its got a coating mate. avoid clay bars and abrasive polish. you can remove little tar spots or tree sap with a mild tar and glue remover. Milder one would be valet pro. You can also use a citrus wash to help reduce the build up of that sort of stuff.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon, I'll have a look for that.😀
Jon, what about sonax BSD?
Since I'm in the States, the two I would be most interested in trying would be Defender from P & S & Armour Detail Supply. I have never heard a bad thing from ADS, but because of cost, I would go with P & S Defender. ADS cost twice as much as Defender, per gallon. Thanks for the info. ...
I think ads is a stronger sealant. Pands is more like a topper
Consider Apex Surface BC9
Siramik is head and shoulders above all those products! Its been on my car 10 months now and still beads like day 1! It may cost 50 quid but it's worth every penny and more!
what about sonax bsd?
why is it so expensive?
@@DavidC1it lasts so much longer. Value isn’t taken into account. When durability and performance is taken into account, then it’s a no brainer. Best sealant on the market.
At that price, you start getting into ceramic coating territory. Food for thought.
@matsudakodo not really! 50 quid is nowhere near the cost of a good ceramic coating! I have a few siramik products and they are all excellent for the price.
I've always used CarPro Reload as a final topper on wax
Fantastic in-depth review really enjoyed this one! Would love to see some kamikaze collection included basically because im an over coat fan boy 😅
Hi John give mirch bead king a go to I ordered it from Australia love for you to test it and what you think of it
John SO02 as a drying aid is bonkers, give it a try
Griots 3 in 1. I wish it was included
Angelwax enigma corona would have been a nice addition to this test .
Please test Nasiol ZR 53 next time. Many detailers have placed it as one of the best so it would be nice to get your view on it.
Never loose the humor John 🎉
Siramik should have picked up bonus points for that durability, look at it, blows everything else out of the water, huge difference
It got 10 marks for it. But yer it's durability is next level none in this field get close to it. It's a very cool product.
@@ForensicDetailing maybe it's a light ceramic beater ?
Wow what a great test and very informative in every way thanks very much
You dont get the credit tour due
Any tests on Gyeon Can Coat? And how it holds up?
It would absolutely destroy all of these as it's a different product, its a ceramic coating Lite.
@victoryensured7137 I can assure you it doesn't. I've used cancoat on my own personal cars over for 4 year before moving to SiRamik Lustrous+ last year. My Stinger is out on the driveway, had 0 top ups & it's still beading well, maybe 60% of how it was performing on initial application & that's on ALL panels, not just the roof.
The Siramik is a lite coating in itself. An extremely user friendly one with better slickness than something like Cancoat.
@@BrianW1612 If John says it's a spray sealant its a spray sealant for me, would have to coat my daily with half Cancoat Evo half Siramik to properly test them, unfortunately we don't have Siramik here in Poland and probably won't have it ever so.. I can only speculate. But I'm glad you like it!
@@victoryensured7137 it doesn’t matter what you want to call it, at the end of the day, it’s the performance and durability that counts. As Brian says, CanCoat absolutely doesn’t blow SiRamik Lustrous + out of the water, in fact, having used both, Lustrous + has much better long term performance than CanCoat. It’s a game changer of a product, nothing I’ve used in 18 years has the performance/ease of use blend.
Hey John.
That Chemicla Guys one has been discontinued I believe since last year.
The new version is called Hydrocharge+ Plus.
I dont thinks is any better just saying 😂
Thanks JD, a while back, you did a review where the bead maker came up on top. It's an amazing product for topping up your paint protection, and I'm sold on it. What's the difference between these products and the bead maker? Should I switch over to one of these? If so, why?
Beadmaker is more like a material that hardens. Most of these are siloxane blends with other materials and binders to hold them together.
Nice test! Will you consider adding diy detail ceramic gloss in the next tets
Yes m8
Amazing video. I think I’ll go for the siramik but when I click on your link I’m taken to what looks like the produce but a price of 23 pounds for 100ml or 44 something for 250ml. This seems cheap compared to the 179 pounds in your video. However don’t know the size of your bottle. Possibly much bigger.
they added new sizes to make it more affordable
These need to be checked 6 months later on the car see which is still working and which are junk
Great review as always, but it would of been great to see a couple of cheap ones like Turtle Wax for a comparison
Where is the Griot’s Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax? Love your channel by the way
new line up mate we done griots b4
Surprised not to see Infinity Wax Synergy Lite in the line up. That SiRamik trigger looks like the Angelwax H2Go trigger which is also useless!
Try Fireball Pirouette
Hi Jon, thanks for this test, really enjoyed the conten but, i have 1 question, when you refer to "stronger chemicals" what were you referring to, what did you use to degrade the Collinite and Vonex? All the best.
Green star at about 10% pir
Should have had Brilliant shine Detailer as a comparison ❗️😬
🤣🤣🤣
Anyone know how to get the SiRamik one in usa? without outrageous shipping cost.
I get insane hydrophobics from the P&S. But maybe because I'm topping a coating? Is that panel you're testing on clear coated?
Yes m8 what y said it's the coating
Where does the Gyeon Can Coat fit into this mix of products? Or is it not in this category of spray on ceramic?
It's more a light weight ceramic.
Can you re-use the microfibres after using these sprays, and if yes, would they go in the same pile as the waxes
Yes m8
Judging by other posts, the durability of Siramik on car paint is impressive. So a bottle will last much longer than many other sealants thereby giving better value for money. But how long does it last in the bottle? Just wondered what the shelf life is. Presume there is no indication on the instructions?
Unknown m8
@@ForensicDetailingShelf life is approximately 2 years from time of opening and needs to be shook regularly which I believe is the biggest downside. I give the bottle a swish every 3 weeks or so.
think ive had mine 18 months, best advice is clear the spray head like you need to with Gyeon CanCoat, otherwise it will harden in the nozzle, I put a normal cap on mine when storing it.
@@mbrunskill putting a normal cap on is a brilliant idea. Going to actually steal this idea as mine sits with the trigger on it 😅
Would any of these products be suitable for a satin paint? Primarily I’m looking for something that helps stop the dirt sticking to the paint.
I don't know. On paper no though I think they are from gloss finish.
Having a latte at The Yard watching this.
what are these little strips supposed to tell me?
Covered by in video
there can only be 1!
Great video Jhon 👍 do have question are you going to reviewing the new rupes LHR 15-21 Mark V ?
Mark V? I thought they were on mk3
@@ForensicDetailing I thought that also until I saw you can buying them or pre-order them jhon you should Google it I found them more then one website I believe there is one video on RUclips about it let see if I can find it for you.
Can anyone please point me in the direction of a RUPES polisher spare parts source please people.
Thank you
Jhon why you did not test DIY Cermic and quick beads
I think it's more a qd m8 but 8 will get it in ceramic detailer group test
As per my thread on DW (Rappy) and other DW members. Your results are exactly what we have been seeing for almost 3 yrs 👍
It is more like a lite ceramic, which is where it's price & performance is aligned to.
Hopefully Russ & Shane have seen your review 😊
Please do further testing & compare to lite ceramics. Carpro, Gyeon etc....
I don't think it'd ceramic though. Silicone based I think
@@ForensicDetailing correct. It's not ceramic, it's graphene. But a Ceramic is the only LSP , that would hold it's own in a torture test.
Has the colour been added back I thought it was removed and was clear the last time I check the thread? I’m still on my v1.2 bottle. Haven’t been in the DW thread for a while
@@Justin-ny6un back to colour mate 👍
@@simonbaker5984 its not graphene backboned mate. The graphene is just an addictive. Im pretty sure this is a SI material. (silicone resin)
Hi john, I've just brought some yum cars ceramic spray sealant and yum wax and I've brought some autoglym SRP. So after I've put on the SRP would it be ok to put the ceramic spray sealant on and then the wax or would you recommend a different approach John.
SRP then wax or spray sealant mate. typically though the wax will sit on top of the glaze no issue. but the glaze might not be the perfect base for the sealant. but SRP then wax. And in 2-3 months when protection is dying try the sealant mate
thanks for that john very much appreciated Mate
Can I use this Collinite on top of any paint wax?
yes
mmm the video is great, however the scoring criteria is very controversial, although 3D and Menzerna have more points in the cost category, for example in LATAM that does not happen and many times those are more expensive than others on the list, for example For example, Koch Chemie SO02 is a very good product and the results indicate that it has little shine and durability, I find it very difficult to believe because I have used it many times on different cars and the results are incredible. I appreciate your video but I have more questions than answers.
So you can't compare regional prices m8 when you do a review just your countries prices. Koch results showed good durability but not good gloss increment. The gloss meter cannot lie but there can be other factors at play like error or prep or application issue.
Can you use Collinite beadcoat as a topper for Collinite 845?
Currently using Jescar Power lock polymer and Collinite 845. Looks great, but not very hydrophobic.
I would maybe ditch the 845 now. base down with a glaze like poorboyz and top with beadcoat. then put some slickr detailing spray on each wash mate.
@ForensicDetailing thanks mate!!! I'll check those out.
John you forgot to test Griots 3n1!!!!!!
remember theres probably 500 ceramic sprays on the market. This is a new lineup. We included the griots in previous tests.
Great vid... I found the collinite doesn't have a great user experience during application.
I've showed you raw application onto black paint.
What about infinity wax synergy
I think we knew what would win a few weeks ago John 😂 . Just a thought-as I read a lot of the comments, maybe there should be an alternative results line up just stripping out the cost- lots of people don’t seem to care about cost if the rest of it is ace (us weekend warriors anyway 😂)
we show it all there in a table so you guys can filter out any test thats not relevent m8
No Cerakote?
Anyone know where to get SiRamik in North America?