Glad the City shut down the pier last month when issues were detected. Good to hear that the two workers who dropped in the water with the pier are recovering well. This could have been so much worse.
Thank you for the quick dispatch and arrival of First Responders. I'm happy to know it wasn't as bad as first thought and all will recover from their injuries!!!
One thing that bothers me as a Emergency Responder from Germany is the parking of the apperatus. Everything that arrives in this video is just stopping anywhere.. ambulances, engines, ladders, commands, police, seems to be chaos.. in Germany we try to sort vehicles on arrival. Usually when many vehicles arrive there is one parking place or huge road near the scene the designated "Stand-By-Area" and we call the vehicles individually. Ambulances usually have their designated area to have a secure exit-path for quick runs to the hospital, in this video there are some ambulances blockes by ladders, engines and stuff, how will they get out in time?
Yeah, that's fair. They did leave a transportation corridor for the ambulances that were going to transport, but if they'd needed more units they would have been blocked in. Thanks for watching!
The abulance cooridor was ful of ambulances, the first in the row would get a patient and headout, with the 2nd then being clear to travel from what I saw. I do agree they could have staged better, but without a fire, it was mostly they needed the crew not the rigs.
1. this is was in the middle of a major urban city built on a steep hill. there is literally no single "parking place or huge road" where this would work. 2. the main camera angle is zoomed in making the vehicles look like they're closer parked than they appear 3. notice how all the police cars stopped on the right and fire vehicles pulled up left closer to the scene. these guys know how to work an incident in their city.
Thanks! I saw the overhead video on twitter, and all the news agencies were asking if they could use it, so I figured I might as well ask too and he said sure 😀
We sat outside at the Aquarium restaurant having lunch in September 2008. Seeing so many of the pier supports not attached to the pier and gently waving in the tide, I am amazed it took so long to collapse! The aquarium itself wasn't much better either. AMAZING lack of maintenance.
The paramedics and firemen deserve a lot of credit your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated by Seattle fd responding keep them safe out there job well done you should be amazed and proud love you guys great catches as usual way to go thanks ! Joe
@niecers Fire department is usually dispatched first, (they have a larger scope of emergency/ trauma training) typicaly BEFORE the medic ambulances arrive
Good job containing scene! TWO (2) minutes until vehicle traffic and pedestrians were diverted away. Impressive! Now just have to work on establishing a traffic pattern for ambulances and paramedic trucks Ingress and egress. Very good work! 👍🏽
I notice on the scanner radio too that link rail operations are on the same channel as police+fire+ems, makes me wonder if they only use one channel or if they have others which are not transparent
Yeah, it's weird - there are a lot of different fire / police channels, so you'd think Link would have it's own freq. Maybe it's just the scanner itself getting confused?
I use openmhz.com/system/kcers1b - you can monitor all the SFD channels, or you can click the "talkgroups" tab and just pick out certain ones. I usually end up deselecting channel 4 from the options just because there tends to be a lot of stuff unrelated to the call I'm recording.
I'm sure there are weight restrictions on piers. In this case, they were working to start removing the pier because it had started shifting away from the shore.
Eh, at its peak this incident used 5 of the city's 32 engines, 3 of its 11 trucks and 4 of its 15 aid/medic units. And, most units were put back into service quickly once it was confirmed that there was no one else in the water or trapped under debris.
Glad there were no deaths but I seriously must ask...why do planners build a pier with wooden piles, wooden planking, add a 4 ton bronze fountain and a cement plaza and expect it to stay standing. Now that it has collapsed they are going to rebuild it instead of learning from mistakes. Piers are for tying up boats or ships, for fishing or simply walking on. Adding totally silly weights to what will be a temporary structure is just absurd.
It sounds like the fountain / cement areas were held up by steel beams and steel tubes filled with concrete, which were also corroded. There's a pretty in-depth look at what happened here if you're interested: sccinsight.com/2020/09/15/understanding-what-happened-to-pier-58/
@@SeattleTrafficCams The erosion of foundation is similar to ordinary rot. Simply because the peir collapsed, does not mean that the surrounding foundations have not been deteriorating for years as well. Also, look into what Seattle is built on top of, basically backfill from old Seattle. Just sayin. Cheers-
Fair point, I guess it would depend on the condition of the seawall right there. And you're right, isn't basically everything west of I-5 built on fill? Maybe that's just in the south part of downtown / SODO.
The trucks carry extrication equipment, so if there had been someone trapped in the debris the trucks could help get them out. Also, at least one of the trucks carried a rescue swimmer.
Crazy response, they have everyone and than some. Just the other night Russia had a huge apartment building on fire, but just the whole horizontal top floor. So weird, never seen anything like it. Worst part was it was going on for a good while and not one fire truck or engine ever showed up, or ambulance.
The response is overwhelming but that's good because even though the victims were out of the water fast this is practice for future is god forbid another pier collapses but with more than just workers on it.
Yeah, for sure. Hopefully that doesn't happen, especially now that the sea wall replacement is pretty much done, but I guess it's always a possibility. Thanks for watching Killer Robot 99!
Thanks for watching! "Medic One" is the county-wide program that several cities (including Seattle) are a part of. kingcounty.gov/depts/health/emergency-medical-services/medic-one.aspx
Wouldn't that be something if people looked down and seen a bunch of sharks with their heads out of water, looking up with a hint of a smile waiting for someone to fall in while other shark's work on the other supports.. In 2020 it would not surprise me in the least..
Y'all need help up there? I live far& away,,but ill thimb it to get there,long as i have a job...? Lol..seriously tho,,i need a job,and always wanted to visit Seattle/Tacoma...
Sorry, I don't work for the city so I'm not sure if there are any jobs. Now isn't a great time to visit anyway - the smoke is really bad (and there's still a pandemic).
I mean, this was handled pretty well. The city discovered that the pier was shifting, they immediately closed it, and the company that they use to inspect the piers recommended that it be demolished. Construction crews were in the process of removing the fountain as part of the demolition work when it collapsed. Seattle Police and Fire crews were on the scene within minutes to treat the injured workers, and transport them to the hospital. Not sure how any of what happened can be blamed on a govt agency.
This collapse was well responded by the local agencies. However, improper maintenance and studies go right back to this and past administration has the responsibility to fund the previous listed reasons. This was never done.
Building back in the day in Seattle was like back East: controlled by some pretty sketchy types. It wasn't that long ago; I came up with a bro from LA in the late seventies. If you wanted work around const. or the docks you gave an "envelope" of "kash", 1,500 and you didn't get a receipt. It was closer to "On the Waterfront" than "Independence Day". Bill Gates was but a gleam in his dad's law firm eye.
SFD is usually really good at keeping a transportation corridor. It's hard to see from the traffic cam, but if you look at the overhead view (5:24) you can see there's a medic unit to the north, not blocked in and ready to transport. Also, most transport is done by a private company (American Medical Response) that arrives on the scene later. Thanks for watching!
There's a beautiful example of resource misuse... all the engines in one place for what? Glad there wasn't a big fire in town somewhere, all the engines were gridlocked at the pier.
You always send what you might need and release resources if they aren't needed. The pier collapsed, there is no reason to think more of the pier won't also collapse.
Maybe watch the whole video? A little after 7 minutes or so command starts releasing/putting certain crews back in normal service. They didnt know how bad it was but as soon as they got a handle on it, they started breaking away
It is easy to innocently 'misread' the optics and what most non-professionals interpret as redundant, or wasteful excess. In fact the optimum on-scene efficiency and effectiveness maximized is being demonstrated here to text-book perfection. If you listen with more focused attention you'll notice that unrelated calls are woven seamlessly and no 'hiccups', or lapses in balance occurred at any time. Seattle Fire has always been a leader in constantly polishing more aspects of the profession of firefighting than just to obtain shinier trucks. Examine their approach and you begin to understand what a marvelous department that the citizens of Seattle have crafted through due diligence at demanding the best for the Emerald City. This demonstration of the depth of commitment to public safety gives you some idea of the bang for the buck they got in return. The SFD loves this city and the feeling has always been mutual. A point of mutual pride that was there even at the very beginning. Our Seattle policemen and woman are similarly esteemed by locals as very professional at a time when they're particularly vulnerable to issues that effect us all, too.
When the full story isn't known, better to CYA then release then be behind the "8 Ball" and not have the resources in the first place!!! There are TOOO MANY situations when not enough is sent and having to wait as time eats into the Golden Hour!!!
Dispatch had information of people in the water and pier collapse. Dispatcher made a call based on limited information and alarm programming from FD on which units to initially dispatch for said info. Had there been 15-20 people in the water and didn't have this response, there would be a longer delay.
Glad the City shut down the pier last month when issues were detected. Good to hear that the two workers who dropped in the water with the pier are recovering well. This could have been so much worse.
It really could have! Imagine if it had been a regular summer day, packed with tourists...
Can you imagine no police, no firefighters, no first responders when something like this happens? I can’t. Thank you for all that you responders!!!
Well, it is Seattle. They will defund everything but the coffee shops...then get pissed off and rip some historic statues out of the ground.
@@larryhinze9314 meth troll
soon you will. us turn to communism.
These communications reveal the competent professional teamwork we can be proud of whoever you vote for- Thanks
And the incompetent maintenance that caused it!
good work! shout out to the first responders, you know, the guys who run towards trouble instead of causing it...
Thank you for the quick dispatch and arrival of First Responders. I'm happy to know it wasn't as bad as first thought and all will recover from their injuries!!!
Awesome Public Safety response. It's always amazing, humbling and comforting when you see the world roll. thank you all for what you do.
Crazy. Like we don’t have enough going on.
Glad thousands of people weren’t trying to get on their cruise ship. Amazing response from the emergency personnel.
Impressive response! It would take an hour to get a response like that where I live. Seattle should be thankful for the crews that they have!
One thing that bothers me as a Emergency Responder from Germany is the parking of the apperatus. Everything that arrives in this video is just stopping anywhere.. ambulances, engines, ladders, commands, police, seems to be chaos.. in Germany we try to sort vehicles on arrival. Usually when many vehicles arrive there is one parking place or huge road near the scene the designated "Stand-By-Area" and we call the vehicles individually. Ambulances usually have their designated area to have a secure exit-path for quick runs to the hospital, in this video there are some ambulances blockes by ladders, engines and stuff, how will they get out in time?
Yeah, that's fair. They did leave a transportation corridor for the ambulances that were going to transport, but if they'd needed more units they would have been blocked in. Thanks for watching!
The abulance cooridor was ful of ambulances, the first in the row would get a patient and headout, with the 2nd then being clear to travel from what I saw. I do agree they could have staged better, but without a fire, it was mostly they needed the crew not the rigs.
In America we don’t wait around but thanks for the advice
1. this is was in the middle of a major urban city built on a steep hill. there is literally no single "parking place or huge road" where this would work.
2. the main camera angle is zoomed in making the vehicles look like they're closer parked than they appear
3. notice how all the police cars stopped on the right and fire vehicles pulled up left closer to the scene. these guys know how to work an incident in their city.
Great response. Bravo first responders!
So glad you caught this! That overhead shot was great!
Thanks! I saw the overhead video on twitter, and all the news agencies were asking if they could use it, so I figured I might as well ask too and he said sure 😀
You don’t see that everyday - 4 tiller trucks in one place!
Yeah, it was a tight squeeze for some of them!
Boy , talk about sending in the cavalry !!!!!
When the automated service started listing off the dispatches....holy cow...that list goes for ever
Man that would suck...just doing your job, all the sudden you're injured in the water.
Yeah, and I'm sure it was a crappy work day to begin with due to the low air quality / smoke.
Praying that everyone is ok,no loss of life!!! Pray for first responders too,everyone!!!😇🙏💕💋
We sat outside at the Aquarium restaurant having lunch in September 2008. Seeing so many of the pier supports not attached to the pier and gently waving in the tide, I am amazed it took so long to collapse! The aquarium itself wasn't much better either. AMAZING lack of maintenance.
Nice video, love the audio with it , thank you, well done!
Thanks for watching!!
Praying for all involved!
So ominous with all of the smoke in the air. Hope everyone is safe
What smoke?
I am a huge fan of funding emergency and protective services! This is an amazing illustration of crisp response and coordination. Bravo!
Now that’s what you call a flash mob.
lol
Thank you all that came to save the day....heros dont always wear caps...they are the men and women in emt fire fighters and police officers.
The paramedics and firemen deserve a lot of credit your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated by Seattle fd responding keep them safe out there job well done you should be amazed and proud love you guys great catches as usual way to go thanks ! Joe
thank you!
This just show how things are done doing a search and rescue!
Very professional!
Outstanding men an women!
Nice job!
I think they should have had more fire trucks. I wonder what they would take to a "fire"!!
Nice to see fire trucks at a water rescue.
Need them in case somebody needs air
@niecers
Fire department is usually dispatched first, (they have a larger scope of emergency/ trauma training) typicaly BEFORE the medic ambulances arrive
It's funny when people think firefighters only deal with "fires".
@@rpmcmurphey927 Paramedics in Seattle are part of the fire department.
link to unedited source should always be provided in video description
Good job containing scene! TWO (2) minutes until vehicle traffic and pedestrians were diverted away. Impressive! Now just have to work on establishing a traffic pattern for ambulances and paramedic trucks Ingress and egress. Very good work! 👍🏽
Great coverage! You rock!
Thank you!!
I notice on the scanner radio too that link rail operations are on the same channel as police+fire+ems, makes me wonder if they only use one channel or if they have others which are not transparent
Yeah, it's weird - there are a lot of different fire / police channels, so you'd think Link would have it's own freq. Maybe it's just the scanner itself getting confused?
@@SeattleTrafficCams scanner is probably picking up the foreground channels
Amazing response!
I pray everyone who fell off that Pier due to its collapse is alright, & not hurt too badly.
That so nice your has camera in your scanner and why you place you printer on the electrical pole by the way
What scanner are you using to monitor Seattle Fire Channel 4? The scanner apps, I use no longer broadcast Fire Ch 4.
I use openmhz.com/system/kcers1b - you can monitor all the SFD channels, or you can click the "talkgroups" tab and just pick out certain ones.
I usually end up deselecting channel 4 from the options just because there tends to be a lot of stuff unrelated to the call I'm recording.
@@SeattleTrafficCams Awesome! Thank you!
Roads, bridges, foundations ect, have weigh restrictions are piers include? Just wondering.
I'm sure there are weight restrictions on piers. In this case, they were working to start removing the pier because it had started shifting away from the shore.
Notice the building on the other side of the road just past where the pier collapse is that looks like it is partially collapsed also.
That's one of the Pike Place Market parking garages - it does kind of look like it's collapsing! (It's not)
when these structures were built Seattle was a very, very different place.
WTFiretruck ? 16 units FDept so rest of Seattle isn't covered ?
Eh, at its peak this incident used 5 of the city's 32 engines, 3 of its 11 trucks and 4 of its 15 aid/medic units. And, most units were put back into service quickly once it was confirmed that there was no one else in the water or trapped under debris.
Why did the entire fire station worth of people and vehicles go there? i doubt even half of them were needed...
Glad there were no deaths but I seriously must ask...why do planners build a pier with wooden piles, wooden planking, add a 4 ton bronze fountain and a cement plaza and expect it to stay standing. Now that it has collapsed they are going to rebuild it instead of learning from mistakes. Piers are for tying up boats or ships, for fishing or simply walking on. Adding totally silly weights to what will be a temporary structure is just absurd.
It sounds like the fountain / cement areas were held up by steel beams and steel tubes filled with concrete, which were also corroded. There's a pretty in-depth look at what happened here if you're interested: sccinsight.com/2020/09/15/understanding-what-happened-to-pier-58/
Great video brother! Thx!
Thanks for watching!
That is why you don't Defund anything !
WOW!! First responders came in so quickly!!
They did! It's not too far from Stations 2, 5, 10 & HQ so they were able to arrive quickly.
Tje added weight of emergency response trucks seems a bit concerning, being that they are posted up on instable/ questionable foundations
It might seem that way, but the vehicles are all on Alaskan Way which isn't over the water.
@@SeattleTrafficCams
The erosion of foundation is similar to ordinary rot. Simply because the peir collapsed, does not mean that the surrounding foundations have not been deteriorating for years as well. Also, look into what Seattle is built on top of, basically backfill from old Seattle. Just sayin.
Cheers-
Fair point, I guess it would depend on the condition of the seawall right there. And you're right, isn't basically everything west of I-5 built on fill? Maybe that's just in the south part of downtown / SODO.
3 People in the water.. And that's the appropriate response size 5:37?
Not sure what they were going to do with 3 ladder trucks? Maybe they carry some special lifting equipment?
The trucks carry extrication equipment, so if there had been someone trapped in the debris the trucks could help get them out. Also, at least one of the trucks carried a rescue swimmer.
Crazy response, they have everyone and than some. Just the other night Russia had a huge apartment building on fire, but just the whole horizontal top floor. So weird, never seen anything like it. Worst part was it was going on for a good while and not one fire truck or engine ever showed up, or ambulance.
Why is medic one part of the fire department? I live in st.louis missouri and here medic one is a private ems service
Medic One is a Seattle invention. Just like Starbucks Boeing Amazon UPS and on and on.
Got to love tiller trucks.
Great work on piecing this all this together.
Thanks for watching!
Wow!!
Oh the aquarium ppl were so wholesome about protecting the animals
Yeah, it's a pretty great aquarium - I need to go back once Covid is over!
Definitely need a few more trucks! Sending love Seattle. Glad it wasn’t busy.
What is location
Pier 58 on the Seattle waterfront.
Staff 10? What’s that
So sad? What happened?
To be honest, I don't recall hearing about this, though I'm very glad there were no major injuries or worse.
For sure - thanks for watching!
The response is overwhelming but that's good because even though the victims were out of the water fast this is practice for future is god forbid another pier collapses but with more than just workers on it.
Yeah, for sure. Hopefully that doesn't happen, especially now that the sea wall replacement is pretty much done, but I guess it's always a possibility. Thanks for watching Killer Robot 99!
WOW THATS THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT
why did the Evacuate the Aquarium?
It's on an adjacent dock, and I think they were worried about the stability of the dock. Better safe than sorry in a situation like this.
@@SeattleTrafficCams Ah ok, understood
i see why they would do that as that could offset stability
How come all the units say “Medic One?” Epic!!
Thanks for watching! "Medic One" is the county-wide program that several cities (including Seattle) are a part of.
kingcounty.gov/depts/health/emergency-medical-services/medic-one.aspx
@@SeattleTrafficCams Ah thanks - Np!!
I just went to the aquarium a few weeks ago glad it wasn’t during this time
Wouldn't that be something if people looked down and seen a bunch of sharks with their heads out of water, looking up with a hint of a smile waiting for someone to fall in while other shark's work on the other supports.. In 2020 it would not surprise me in the least..
Damn
Great coordination!!
jesus christ, I know people who were there touring just February and last summer......... holy cow...............
The Fire response was overwhelming. IMO.
Would you rather they did not send anybody at all. Do us a favor get a freaking clue alright.
Rather have and not need rather than need and not have. Not to mention the manpower needed in a situation like this makes sense
Until the piers to both sides both collapse as well?
They had to evacuate the other building nearby
i got there as they are doing the a Plan with Sdot & SPD & SFD
8:31 that was the Big chief himseif and PIO is crossstreet from where Dept 1 & SAFT2 is
Is that Chief 88?
@@SeattleTrafficCams i can confirm his apparatus number is 234 !!
Wow, that's insane
People walking around look like they have no clue what happened.
Lol, yeah, but that's true most days...
Drugs.
We didn't even get that many fireman at the bonney lake sumner grade fire..hmm.
Y'all need help up there? I live far& away,,but ill thimb it to get there,long as i have a job...? Lol..seriously tho,,i need a job,and always wanted to visit Seattle/Tacoma...
Sorry, I don't work for the city so I'm not sure if there are any jobs. Now isn't a great time to visit anyway - the smoke is really bad (and there's still a pandemic).
Unless you like the smell of bum piss and the idea of paying 10% tax on all purchases, save yourself the hassle. Seattle is not what it used to be.
Seattle has a response matrix similar to FDNY. Godspeed Seattle FD.
Great response 👍👍
I hope ILWU you guys are okay!!
As if the waterfront "DISASTER ZONE" (and that's just the YEARS long construction) wasn't bad enough.....
I'm just glad the viaduct never collapsed!
If only there were such a dramatic response for covid.
SHOCKED at how well government agencies manage the waterfront/piers /s. Can anyone name all the agencies??
I mean, this was handled pretty well. The city discovered that the pier was shifting, they immediately closed it, and the company that they use to inspect the piers recommended that it be demolished.
Construction crews were in the process of removing the fountain as part of the demolition work when it collapsed.
Seattle Police and Fire crews were on the scene within minutes to treat the injured workers, and transport them to the hospital.
Not sure how any of what happened can be blamed on a govt agency.
3:52 cursed movement
Tiller drift!
America still using the wrong date format.
*And* still not using the metric system... 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching!
2020...throw the whole damn year away
Oh my GODDD
3,2,1 LETS DRAW it’s crazy & it just keeps coming....😱😱😱
How many police officers and firefighters you want on the scene?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL OF THEM!!!!
Eeeevvvvverrrry onnnne! Thanks for watching!
Was anybody hurt
Two workers in the water were rescued and taken to Harborview in stable condition. No other word yet.
I guess they needed the police..
PS..thanks for the heart,on my comments, but YALL ARE THE REAL HEROES OUT THERE!!!❤
Now, if the whole area could fall into the water.
Ivars!!!!!!
This collapse was well responded by the local agencies. However, improper maintenance and studies go right back to this and past administration has the responsibility to fund the previous listed reasons. This was never done.
Building back in the day in Seattle was like back East: controlled by some pretty sketchy types. It wasn't that long ago; I came up with a bro from LA in the late seventies. If you wanted work around const. or the docks you gave an "envelope" of "kash", 1,500 and you didn't get a receipt. It was closer to "On the Waterfront" than "Independence Day". Bill Gates was but a gleam in his dad's law firm eye.
Lol they need a staging manager, most of their medic units became boxed in lol
SFD is usually really good at keeping a transportation corridor. It's hard to see from the traffic cam, but if you look at the overhead view (5:24) you can see there's a medic unit to the north, not blocked in and ready to transport. Also, most transport is done by a private company (American Medical Response) that arrives on the scene later. Thanks for watching!
mine, MIne, MINE, minE, MinE, MINE, MINE, MINE
OMG, Prayers for the People!
those guy's are quick.
Like the response not the gawkers
Thanks for watching!
k...
Search for go ahead 5 minutes go ahead at home 5 minutes
Gloomy city 🥴
There's a beautiful example of resource misuse... all the engines in one place for what? Glad there wasn't a big fire in town somewhere, all the engines were gridlocked at the pier.
You always send what you might need and release resources if they aren't needed. The pier collapsed, there is no reason to think more of the pier won't also collapse.
Maybe watch the whole video? A little after 7 minutes or so command starts releasing/putting certain crews back in normal service. They didnt know how bad it was but as soon as they got a handle on it, they started breaking away
It is easy to innocently 'misread' the optics and what most non-professionals interpret as redundant, or wasteful excess. In fact the optimum on-scene efficiency and effectiveness maximized is being demonstrated here to text-book perfection. If you listen with more focused attention you'll notice that unrelated calls are woven seamlessly and no 'hiccups', or lapses in balance occurred at any time. Seattle Fire has always been a leader in constantly polishing more aspects of the profession of firefighting than just to obtain shinier trucks. Examine their approach and you begin to understand what a marvelous department that the citizens of Seattle have crafted through due diligence at demanding the best for the Emerald City. This demonstration of the depth of commitment to public safety gives you some idea of the bang for the buck they got in return. The SFD loves this city and the feeling has always been mutual. A point of mutual pride that was there even at the very beginning. Our Seattle policemen and woman are similarly esteemed by locals as very professional at a time when they're particularly vulnerable to issues that effect us all, too.
When the full story isn't known, better to CYA then release then be behind the "8 Ball" and not have the resources in the first place!!! There are TOOO MANY situations when not enough is sent and having to wait as time eats into the Golden Hour!!!
Dispatch had information of people in the water and pier collapse. Dispatcher made a call based on limited information and alarm programming from FD on which units to initially dispatch for said info. Had there been 15-20 people in the water and didn't have this response, there would be a longer delay.
Police are always the first to arrive on scene and start providing aid, way before the fire department as usual, and people want to defund the police.
I'll bet these victims don't have a problem with the police helping them in the situation. 3 Days Later they're like "defund the police"!