[Traffic Cam] Seattle FD battles major house fire near Green Lake

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  • Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
  • On August 16th, 2023, I captured footage of the Seattle Fire Department battling a raging house fire on Winona Ave North, near Green Lake. This was initially dispatched as a deck fire, but the fire spread into the house.
    The first unit on scene (Ladder 5) called for a full response, and the first chief on scene (Battalion 4) requested additional engines.
    The fire also spread into surrounding foliage and trees (3:51) - thankfully fire fighters were able to keep it from spreading into neighboring structures.
    Watching it live (and watching the video) it seems like it takes forever for the first engine to arrive. I started recording about 5 minutes after the initial call, and Engine 31 arrives at 4:42. They should have been coming from the same place as Ladder 5, so I'm not sure why it took so long. Once they arrived on scene, it only took them one minute three seconds to get water on the fire.
    Engines 16 and 21 would have been the closest engines, but they were both on other calls when this one came out.
    Seattle Police briefly provided traffic control, but seemed to stop for some reason, leading to a van almost running over a hose at 12:13. At 12:46, you can see fire fighters that have exited the building being hosed down with a decon line. The video was getting long, so I started a 16x speed time lapse at 12:08.
    Units on the call:
    Initial dispatch (deck fire): B4, E31, E35, L5
    Full response: A14, A31, AIR10, B6, DEP1, E17, E18, E9, L8, L9, M31, M44, MAR5, R1, REHAB1, SAFT2, STAF10
    Nearby unit added once they cleared their call: E21
    Additional engines requested: E22, E40
    Additional engine and truck: E16, L6
    Clip listing:
    0:19 - L5 arrives, requests a full response
    2:45 - Battalion 4 requests two additional engines
    3:51 - Trees ignite
    4:42 - Fire engine arrives (E31)
    5:45 - Water on the fire
    10:19 - Additional engine and truck requested
    11:18 - Supply established
    12:08 - Time lapse - 12x speed

Комментарии • 1 тыс.

  • @SilverGoth
    @SilverGoth 9 месяцев назад +158

    Great capture! That was the longest five minutes waiting for the first engine to show up and get water on the fire!

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +20

      Right?! Watching it live, and seeing the house catch more and more on fire, it was super stressful. Thanks for watching!

    • @jeffreymartin6369
      @jeffreymartin6369 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@SeattleTrafficCamsI agree! Hell, it went down hill after that for a while too! Wind! Wood! Difficult positions! They sure pulled it out of the sand though! Great video ! ❤ great fd ❤

    • @JamesJohnson-bq3nu
      @JamesJohnson-bq3nu 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@SeattleTrafficCams⁸1111 5:55 NH❤

    • @johndowning5344
      @johndowning5344 8 месяцев назад +4

      Why to hell would you send the most expensive rig, that can do absolutely nothing without a water truck/pumper.. it sat there how long, the rescue trk showed up and was like (what)..?

    • @jayd3578
      @jayd3578 5 месяцев назад +3

      Why are they always slow to get water on the fire. The attitude is its on fire let it burn.

  • @WATrafficCamResponses
    @WATrafficCamResponses 9 месяцев назад +116

    This might be the craziest view of a structure fire yet... great footage!

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you! Yeah, I think this is the clearest FIB we've seen so far.

    • @user-pd5dt5to4h
      @user-pd5dt5to4h 4 месяца назад

      Very bad fire service. It was as if we had arrived at a resort. Firefighters like these need to be fired from service.

  • @toddster2656
    @toddster2656 9 месяцев назад +220

    I'm surprised it took so long to get the first engine on scene. Especially in a big city fire department. I also can't understand why the first in engine didn't lay a supply line as they arrived on scene. Very odd SOP's.

    • @applecreeksolarllc5064
      @applecreeksolarllc5064 9 месяцев назад +10

      Sometimes they let it burn a little bit longer if they see that the fire or building is going to be a total loss so the fire insurance covers it for sure

    • @joebobjoesayshi
      @joebobjoesayshi 9 месяцев назад +14

      They're tired of dealing from dealing with all the overdoses.

    • @jamielancaster01
      @jamielancaster01 9 месяцев назад +15

      Normally the second engine forward lays to the first engine.

    • @dbyers3897
      @dbyers3897 9 месяцев назад +28

      Agreed. By not attempting entry with the truck crew & instead attacking the totally consumed addition, the 1st engine may have pushed fire into the main house & delayed VES. Poor operation. I have no idea why the command vehicle was positioned where it was. Better if they'd taken a left & pulled into the driveway opposite the house.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@dbyers3897
      "Pushed fire into the house" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Oh you hindsight hero wannabes are a hoot

  • @RVFireFighter
    @RVFireFighter 9 месяцев назад +12

    I was on a ladder truck, I think the ladder truck caused the escalation of the fire. Instead of grabbing an extension ladder and a chainsaw, It appears, If they would have stopped short on this side of the dumpsters. Then put their stick up and pulled a hose ready for when the first engine came to hook to. They could have knocked down all the fire on that deck and on the side of the house. I think this video is a learning experience. I understand the truck had no water. We had 500 gallons of water I would have dumped the tank on it in the 5-minute wait for the pumper.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      Youve never worked a fire in your life

    • @rs2352
      @rs2352 9 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly. Command knew the Ladder was on scene. If the focus was towards bringing a Supply Line in ASAP, there would be zero fire within 3 - 4 minutes of charging that lay.
      To stop, drop and pull would have seen that particular Engine getting on scene about 60 seconds later.
      Bizarre.....

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      @@rs2352
      Were you not smart enough to pass the CSE?
      Is that why are you so bitter about not being able to get hired on?

    • @RVFireFighter
      @RVFireFighter 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your antagonistic reply, false. I was on a snorkel truck and we did not have to even raise the Boom to flow water. We did this thing called Make It Rain. sometimes we use it to cool off an area. sometimes we would shoot over a garage or something to push the crowd back. @@virgilhilts3924

    • @RVFireFighter
      @RVFireFighter 9 месяцев назад

      that's childish, I thought only grown-ups were here. would you like to be a firefighter when you grow up?@@virgilhilts3924

  • @howiecowell6645
    @howiecowell6645 9 месяцев назад +65

    Crazy how the first due was the ladder and sat waiting for a engine to put water on the fire...a first due unit with water might have been able to save the place

    • @eriksand9262
      @eriksand9262 9 месяцев назад +6

      The first due engine that would have probably shown up with that ladder was probably on another call already, or out of service doing training at their training grounds. So now the first due engine is coming from a different station. Meaning it’s going to take longer to arrive on scene. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @samcampbell1351
      @samcampbell1351 9 месяцев назад +7

      This would have been Engine 21 and Engine 16's call on the first 4RED. They were both out of service on other calls. Both Engine 16 and 21 would have presumably gotten there before Ladder 5.

    • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
      @PeaceToAll-sl1db 8 месяцев назад

      America is a third world country - they do not know how to fight fires

    • @michaelb9529
      @michaelb9529 8 месяцев назад

      I wonder if SFD cross covers their areas when other units are busy. Common where I live amongst the 3 cities. They all act as if they are one service.
      If only Ladder 5 had been able to find the resident's garden hose this would have been out before the first Engine arrived.

    • @user-ph6zn6yp7q
      @user-ph6zn6yp7q 3 месяца назад

      I live in Seattle and I can tell you with absolute certainty SFD can put fires out with the best of them @@michaelb9529

  • @countryshaner141
    @countryshaner141 9 месяцев назад +13

    This fire department saves foundations.

  • @helipoison
    @helipoison 9 месяцев назад +57

    Oh lord... Neither the first or second engine lay in. It takes nearly 6 mins to get a water supply from the time the first engine arrives (not the ladder). I hope they do a comprehensive after action on this because from the top down this was a cluster. Not that the structure would have been savable, but I would expect a much better overall performance from one of the largest departments in the US. Instead, this reminds me of a Rural Metro burn down. Congrats Seattle Fire !

    • @rx7dude2006
      @rx7dude2006 9 месяцев назад +8

      Always one of you experts in the comments,lol.

    • @mackflickerson6722
      @mackflickerson6722 9 месяцев назад +7

      Literally, yes. Three engines on scene and still no supply line. They hand-jack what looks like 3” from the third closest hydrant. Terrible display of engine company operations.

    • @mackflickerson6722
      @mackflickerson6722 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@rx7dude2006there certainly weren’t any on the scene of this fire.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@mackflickerson6722
      Literally, no... to everything you said
      "Third closest hydrant"
      How do you wannabes come up with this stuff 🤣

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for confirming that you've never worked a fire in your life and have no clue what you are babbling about

  • @RealJeep
    @RealJeep 9 месяцев назад +72

    Way to go Command. Just set up in the way of everything instead of parking out of the way.

    • @jaydowling213
      @jaydowling213 9 месяцев назад +14

      First due is two completely useless apparatus?

    • @rgc1961
      @rgc1961 9 месяцев назад +11

      And twelve minutes in, still no aerial ladder up...

    • @bugme9085
      @bugme9085 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeap ,you’re so right,🙄 just in no hurry at all to do anything ,🤔 let me see ah?

    • @kerryalexander9071
      @kerryalexander9071 9 месяцев назад +2

      Same with the ladder unit! Both those vehicles just blocked the easiest access for the hose trucks

    • @azul8811
      @azul8811 9 месяцев назад +3

      Correct me if I’m wrong. But were there 3 lines stretched off of a pumper that had not yet secured a source of water?

  • @tonkatrucker
    @tonkatrucker 9 месяцев назад +18

    So the Ladder Truck is like my in-laws... Just shows up..and does nothing...

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 9 месяцев назад +3

      Kinda like you too.

    • @afridgetoofar1818
      @afridgetoofar1818 3 месяца назад

      0:26 “We need to f&&k this up”

  • @gewurzgurkenkaiser2575
    @gewurzgurkenkaiser2575 9 месяцев назад +17

    The worst thing at a fire ground: Waiting for the engine to arrive

    • @Skylinegtr84
      @Skylinegtr84 9 месяцев назад +3

      O chefe de equipa da 1a viatura já devia ter delegado funções aos seus homens antes da chegada ao local da ocorrência (equipa de busca e salvamento quando necessário) e (equipa de linha de ataque) e o essencial linha de abastecimento, Só assim as coisas podem correr bem . Agora dependerem de outros para poderem iniciar os procedimentos isso não é funcional.

    • @Pushyhog
      @Pushyhog 9 месяцев назад +1

      well at least they had one hose:-)

  • @marksteele8760
    @marksteele8760 9 месяцев назад +25

    unbelievable how long they take to get water on it, in the uk they are instantly on it with water within seconds of arriving on scene

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +2

      Ladder trucks here (Seattle) don't carry water, so they had to wait for an engine. Do all UK apparatuses have water tanks?

    • @jessh5310
      @jessh5310 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@SeattleTrafficCams . Even the mini fire trucks carry water, ( The 5 metric ton ones) ladder trucks usually carry 1000 gallons and about 3-600 yards of hose (depending on area)

    • @michaelb9529
      @michaelb9529 8 месяцев назад +1

      In my community all 3 ladder trucks carry water, hose and have pumping ability. Often its the ladder that first takes the hydrant.@@SeattleTrafficCams. So can anyone tell me why the fire and second engines in didn't take the hydrant on the corner that was eventually hooked up to the first engine in.

    • @HappyGirl92593
      @HappyGirl92593 7 месяцев назад

      @marksteele8760 I’m here in the U.S.and I agree in why it took them so long. If they sent the fire truck with the water first, they would have been able to start putting out the fire in seconds. But all firefighters still have to put on extra fire gear as soon as they arrive. They don’t put it all on because they don’t know how big the fire will be. I bet even the UK firefighters will take a couple of minutes to set up, especially if it’s a huge fire. But I saw a other comments for this video, other people asked the same in why it took them so long. Lol 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @michaelb9529
      @michaelb9529 7 месяцев назад

      @@HappyGirl92593 O agree with your theory that the first truck arriving if it has a tank of water should go right in. But even though they go right in still nothing happens. The putting on their gear doesn't hold water (sorry for the pun) before manning the truck their bottom half is already on. Coat well enroute. Ok that's all they need if the fire is visible to get water on it. one man holding the hose. one at the pumps 2 other putting on air packs then change with hose holder and bank 1 minute maybe 90 seconds they're ready to go

  • @BigDuke-md8ec
    @BigDuke-md8ec 9 месяцев назад +18

    Hey Battalion 4 … is that the best spot to park your rig ? Right in front of the structure… why not move into that big parking lot directly across from or the one to the right of the fire building? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @samcampbell1351
      @samcampbell1351 9 месяцев назад

      Looks like B4's little rig didn't hinder anything.

    • @wolfshadow1968
      @wolfshadow1968 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@samcampbell1351except closer access to the fire...

  • @MrPlusses
    @MrPlusses 9 месяцев назад +20

    I honestly thought it was a training exercise. It just seems like they didn't want to put it out to soon.

  • @greggiverson7606
    @greggiverson7606 9 месяцев назад +9

    Don’t understand why the initial attack was on the trees rather than the outside exposure of the house. First water flow was at 5:47, entry at 8:10, and water on exterior of Delta side (where fire started on the deck) at 11:08.

    • @greggiverson7606
      @greggiverson7606 9 месяцев назад +2

      I came here to say the same thing. Also why not lay from the hydrant on the way in?

    • @eriksimca9409
      @eriksimca9409 9 месяцев назад +1

      to prevent fire from spreading.... and the structure is a total loss anyway, you dont rebuild on waterdamaged wood

    • @danielr3933
      @danielr3933 4 месяца назад

      Bro this is Seattle. You gotta save the trees, you can' t let mother nature burn👽

    • @greggiverson7606
      @greggiverson7606 4 месяца назад

      Oh, I got it. Putting out the fire earlier could give the insurance co the option to rebuild instead of starting over after it burned.

    • @samcampbell1351
      @samcampbell1351 Месяц назад

      @@eriksimca9409 Finally someone who understands!

  • @549BR
    @549BR 9 месяцев назад +3

    Casual and semi-disorganized fire fighting. And, why wasn't the ladder truck used to hit the roof?

  • @chickenstripsnbbqsauce659
    @chickenstripsnbbqsauce659 9 месяцев назад +8

    Must be a powerless feeling waiting for an engine to show up as the structure gets worse and worse. That's too long a wait time for water supply

  • @SeattleResponses
    @SeattleResponses 9 месяцев назад +30

    This one got out of control very quickly! Great footage, couldn't have gotten a closer and better view!

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Yeah, this camera was definitely in the right spot.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 9 месяцев назад +3

      Not applying water to the Visible Burning Material will allow that to happen!

    • @xzibit8614
      @xzibit8614 9 месяцев назад +9

      Quickly? Looked like they were waiting for rain instead of lay a supply line

    • @bukboefidun9096
      @bukboefidun9096 9 месяцев назад +2

      The cool thing is they sent a ladder truck to what was described as a deck fire...oh and fortunately as well for the fire the useless ladder truck had no water.
      So excellent for firebugs!

  • @ceedaddy
    @ceedaddy 9 месяцев назад +12

    Unfortunately, a Total Loss !!! Shame the water pumper didn't get there faster.

  • @kevinpatrick5162
    @kevinpatrick5162 9 месяцев назад +20

    OMG. I've had a house fire and I can tell you that there is nothing more terrifying or disruptive to your life. 😕❤️🙏

    • @missm3881
      @missm3881 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm so sorry that happened to you. It's honestly one of my biggest fears. Especially with having pets.

    • @kevinpatrick5162
      @kevinpatrick5162 8 месяцев назад

      @@missm3881 thankfully we were home and awake when it happened so we were able to get ourselves and pets out of the house. Even though it was contained to our garage, the smoke damage was extensive and it ruined everything with fabric. It also put us out of our house for 9 weeks. I'm so glad we had adequate insurance or we would have been sunk.

    • @debdeb5093
      @debdeb5093 5 месяцев назад

      Well I agree as I just was through the category five hurricane that hit Sarasota county, Florida all the way to Ft. Myers. So much damage, but yet after the hurricane we then all flooded up to six plus feet in certain areas from so much water trying to drain into the Gulf of Mexico at high tide...but yet we are not in a flood zone. it was a fluke of nature. I am still cleaning, throwing things away and still having to fix damage but. Fire 🔥 🚒 is soooo much worse my heart goes out to you !!!

  • @Bones_Jr.
    @Bones_Jr. 9 месяцев назад +8

    I just kept waiting for them to get a supply line to that first engine as they continued to pull more attack lines off it. Awesome job, though.

  • @toddayres7298
    @toddayres7298 9 месяцев назад +25

    Great footage. One takeaway for a learning point is the placement of the command vehicle. Not sure that was the best place. The driveway across from the fireground might have been better. Also sorry the PD decided to leave and cars started to come through the scene.

  • @rodhard688
    @rodhard688 9 месяцев назад +4

    Shouldn't the ladder have been up waiting for a supply line? Why have a ladder if you don't use it?

  • @doktorjohn5276
    @doktorjohn5276 7 месяцев назад +5

    It is just incredible that you don't have a tanker together with the first pump vehicle. It takes ages for your to get water on the fire. I Denmark a tanker is ALWAYS together with the first pump vehicle. It actually saves insurance money. Houses don't have to burn down to the ground.

    • @WATrafficCamResponses
      @WATrafficCamResponses 7 месяцев назад

      Seattle does not have any tankers/tenders. They rely on hydrants and engine water tanks.

    • @zorro5000100
      @zorro5000100 4 месяца назад

      Als in Amerika je huis in brand staat staat het voor 99,9% vast dat hij tot de grond toe afbrand. Hoe? Een voorbeeld ziet u hier. Er is nog geen water maar er loopt wel een brandweerman met een kettingzaag. Waar water is een eerste vereiste is. Groeten uit The Netherlands

  • @colnorth
    @colnorth 9 месяцев назад +5

    great video,,,,,bad on fighting the fire

  • @aloesecretinc
    @aloesecretinc 9 месяцев назад +7

    This is gut wrenching to watch.

  • @splashhs1
    @splashhs1 9 месяцев назад +3

    No hurry boys, take ya time

  • @laneglarry
    @laneglarry 9 месяцев назад +5

    The lack of water is very apparent

  • @Grounded75
    @Grounded75 9 месяцев назад +2

    Cap, we have heavy fire on Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and delta. The good news we have blue skies and sunshine!

  • @MaxZomboni
    @MaxZomboni 9 месяцев назад +11

    Not the firefighters I remember when I was a kid, who would arrive at the fire with the hoses dropping off the truck as they rolled to a stop. They would have a connection established and be pumping water on the fire in 1 or 2 minutes. They just keep getting bigger and bigger trucks, and they don't even use most of the equipment. Why did they even send that first ladder truck? It was first to arrive, and they didn't even use it. It makes no sense.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +3

      "Not the firefighters I remember when I was a kid"
      -Gee who would have thought... firefighting evolves
      "who would arrive at the fire with the hoses dropping off the truck as they rolled to a stop"
      -No need to when a first in engine can get to work right away and let the next in grab a supply
      "They would have a connection established and be pumping water on the fire in 1 or 2 minutes"
      -Which is exactly what the Engine did here... flowing water exactly one minute after stopping
      "They just keep getting bigger and bigger trucks, and they don't even use most of the equipment"
      -Better to have things and not need them on a job, than need them and not have them
      "Why did they even send that first ladder truck?"
      -Manpower, ladders, breeching equipment, etc
      "It was first to arrive, and they didn't even use it"
      -They used the manpower, ladders, and equipment on it
      "It makes no sense"
      -Become a professional firefighter and learn about the subject instead of ignorantly complaining

    • @MaxZomboni
      @MaxZomboni 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@virgilhilts3924 If you were really a professional firefighter you would know what a Forward Lay is, or else you just haven't been trained very well.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@MaxZomboni
      I love how you dodged every point I made 🤣🤣🤣
      "you would know what a Forward Lay is"
      -Cite where said a word about them...

    • @MaxZomboni
      @MaxZomboni 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@virgilhilts3924 Question: "who would arrive at the fire with the hoses dropping off the truck as they rolled to a stop". Answer: firefighters deploying a forward lay. You would know that if you were a firefighter or if you even knew anything about firefighting.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@MaxZomboni
      I love how you again dodged every point I made 🤣
      I love how you FAILED to cite 🤣
      All because I busted you lying 🤡

  • @cwilkinsoncwcw
    @cwilkinsoncwcw 9 месяцев назад +8

    I would of thought that you send engines with water first this seems to be the best

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +2

      They were dispatched at the same time, it just took the engines longer to get there for some reason...

  • @sherriz3265
    @sherriz3265 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love how that person at the beginning just casually walk past the burning house like it’s no big deal

  • @samcampbell1351
    @samcampbell1351 9 месяцев назад +19

    Crazy how fast that spread. Thanks for the upload!

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +2

      Crazy fast, I agree! I'm just glad it wasn't windier, or the neighboring buildings could have been in trouble too.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 9 месяцев назад

      That's what happens when you don't apply water!

    • @samcampbell1351
      @samcampbell1351 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@JB91710 Yeah, but engine company wasn't there yet.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 9 месяцев назад

      @@samcampbell1351 If they can drive a ladder there, they can drive an engine there. And, when an Engine did arrive, they didn't use the Deck Gun.

    • @WATrafficCamResponses
      @WATrafficCamResponses 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@JB91710I’m not a firefighter, but from what I saw in the video, they’re not in a good angle for the deck gun

  • @chipjohnsonkdust5863
    @chipjohnsonkdust5863 9 месяцев назад +6

    That engine crew ... 4:41 brakes set, 5:45 first water!

  • @raindollvr
    @raindollvr 9 месяцев назад +7

    I miss the service, but it is interesting seeing things from a different view thanks for the vid!

  • @richardnoggen4808
    @richardnoggen4808 9 месяцев назад +2

    Is it me or is every ff noticing there's a 100% chance at every major call... either PD or CV is parked in the way...
    also- a 6 min gap from when Ladder gets there to when they get water on it... that's something...

  • @mswik2845
    @mswik2845 9 месяцев назад +3

    Never thought about having a hydrant near my home as a good thing before

  • @benv5812
    @benv5812 9 месяцев назад +8

    I'm surprised that SFD took 10 minutes to get a water supply flowing.The engine behind the attack engine could have run a pony line to the pumping one and added its 500g to the attack. Not SOP for the U.S. generally. Would have helped though.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      It took 2.5 minutes from the time they were assigned to get the supply line secured

  • @user-tu6jm1un3n
    @user-tu6jm1un3n 9 месяцев назад +1

    Look,they saved the basement!!

  • @jubelet
    @jubelet 9 месяцев назад +1

    When command called for an additional engine and truck, I thought there's plenty of resources on scene, you just need to get water on the fire.

  • @donpatrick8582
    @donpatrick8582 9 месяцев назад +5

    Ladder truck was actually in the way for the others to get into position ... kind of hard to be able to support the fire suppression system watching this ... good video production.

    • @galdavonalgerri2101
      @galdavonalgerri2101 9 месяцев назад +1

      Why was that ladder truck there at all?
      I don't see any purpose. Only blocking other vehicles to park near the house.
      If useful, could have set up before the first truck arrived and connect water than.
      If not useful or not to be used for some unknown reason, than park on the other side (or go home).

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      It wasnt in the way of anything

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@galdavonalgerri2101
      "Why was that ladder truck there at all?"
      -Manpower, ladders, breeching equipment, etc, etc, etc
      "I don't see any purpose"
      -Not surprising
      "Only blocking other vehicles to park near the house"
      -The building was fully accessible, nothing was blocked
      "If useful, could have set up before the first truck arrived and connect water than"
      -??????
      "If not useful or not to be used for some unknown reason, than park on the other side (or go home)"
      -It was perfectly fine where it was, personnel and equipment were used on the job

  • @plant_trees_kg
    @plant_trees_kg 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great catch! Thanks for the editing and posting of this footage!

  • @Grounded75
    @Grounded75 9 месяцев назад +2

    Clearly the fire extended into the attic space and got moving really good!

  • @brucestambaugh
    @brucestambaugh 9 месяцев назад +16

    Just think what would have happened had the Ladder truck carried 500 or 1,000 gallons of water. And why did it take so long to establish a water supply?

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +6

      Just think if you had even the slightest clue what you were talking about

    • @vincethompson3475
      @vincethompson3475 9 месяцев назад +4

      This is a fair question.

    • @teresadavies-dw9tk
      @teresadavies-dw9tk 9 месяцев назад

      Old area not a lot of hydrants

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@vincethompson3475
      It took one minute to lay and charge the first line
      It took two and a half minute to tap the hydrant
      Nothing unusual about those times

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@teresadavies-dw9tk
      The hydrant was four doors down and they tapped it in about two and a half minutes including hand-jacking the LDH. Nothing at all unusual about that time.

  • @jeffreymartin6369
    @jeffreymartin6369 9 месяцев назад +16

    Gosh! For a good 10 minutes it was not looking good! They were up against a real mess, but I felt instant relief when the last group bottom right screen came on board and and changed everything! Amazing how one more hose can change things so quickly. That was a scary fire, excellent job FD! ❤

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 9 месяцев назад +5

      There's some part of this that looks good to you? How long has it been since your last eye exam?? Your prescription might be out of date by a decade or 2...

    • @bukboefidun9096
      @bukboefidun9096 9 месяцев назад +1

      I am thinking they brought a knife to a gun fight here... ladder truck without water to a deck fire.... hummmmmm

    • @jeffreymartin6369
      @jeffreymartin6369 9 месяцев назад

      @@bukboefidun9096 I’m not a fireman so I’m gonna refrain from criticizing the fd.

    • @kbittorf335
      @kbittorf335 9 месяцев назад

      @@bukboefidun9096I’ll bet if one looks at their call log the engine was probably tied up on a Medical call somewhere and the ladder company was in quarters and arrived first, and had to wait for another station’s engine to arrive to begin the attack.

    • @bukboefidun9096
      @bukboefidun9096 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffreymartin6369 nor am I.. the initial report of a deck fire was the problem

  • @quantum_entangled_tardigrade
    @quantum_entangled_tardigrade 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wow! Didn't know about this, so thanks for the video!
    I only live a few blocks from this now burnt down house, and go right by it on my morning drive to work (surprised I didn't notice it).

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Yeah, I feel like this didn't get too much play on the news for whatever reason - maybe overshadowed by the smoke/fires/hurricane?

  • @xzibit8614
    @xzibit8614 9 месяцев назад +2

    “Fire is escalating”. Yeah. The first few minutes are crucial. Put water on it!

  • @johnapernorio8151
    @johnapernorio8151 9 месяцев назад +2

    Can't believe how long it took for the engine companies to arrive. The ladder company is useless where it is.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +1

      "Can't believe how long it took for the engine companies to arrive"
      -The two closest Engines were on other calls
      -Yet the first arriving Engine still arrived within the 7-10 minute average
      -And had water on the fire one minute after arrival
      "The ladder company is useless where it is"
      -Except for the fact that they did their job just fine

  • @toolman51
    @toolman51 9 месяцев назад +2

    The first due engine is just up the hill from this address. Unfortunately they were dispatched to a fire alarm in their district before this fire broke out and were unable to respond until they cleared that run.

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it was definitely unfortunate timing. Thanks for watching!

  • @lyndamac1058
    @lyndamac1058 9 месяцев назад +3

    I thought this was a comedy skit when a fireman ( first truck ) was running with a ladder lol.. Then finally water from one hose? Fire escalating? really? hey throw another hose on it ... Don't rush fella's lol

  • @jamestamu83
    @jamestamu83 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good job watching the entire house burn to the ground. Really late on the hoses.

  • @slypear
    @slypear 9 месяцев назад +1

    That was refreshing to see at 11:06

  • @JoseSilva-xi9pu
    @JoseSilva-xi9pu 8 месяцев назад +3

    Pensei que os bombeiros estivessem esperando pela chuva

  • @bugme9085
    @bugme9085 9 месяцев назад +4

    This guy is walking around with the ladder, trying to figure out what to do with it.🙄😖

    • @greg2976
      @greg2976 9 месяцев назад +1

      I saw that too!🤣🤣👍👍

    • @bugme9085
      @bugme9085 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@greg2976 right 🙄, if the first truck had connected a supply line, they could have gotten water on that fire and knocked it down quickly before it spread that much, that’s how we were trained.

    • @greg2976
      @greg2976 9 месяцев назад

      Was there not a fire hydrant close by?@@bugme9085

    • @redbaron474
      @redbaron474 9 месяцев назад

      @@bugme9085 I don't think tillers even carry any hose. Stupid, huh?

    • @WATrafficCamResponses
      @WATrafficCamResponses 7 месяцев назад

      First truck does not have water, a pump, or hose.@@bugme9085

  • @SKEptic-mg2dd
    @SKEptic-mg2dd 9 месяцев назад +2

    Reminds me of the old saying that the firemen are there to keep the fire from spreading to other houses.

  • @johnk4396
    @johnk4396 9 месяцев назад +1

    that's awesome they had water on it just over a minute of arriving!

  • @jurgenh.747
    @jurgenh.747 9 месяцев назад +5

    If one does not know the exact circumstances, one should not criticize. Optically, however, the impression remains that not everything worked well during this mission

  • @guyincognito1431
    @guyincognito1431 9 месяцев назад +3

    So various questions- asked to educate me, not to be critical of other depts: 1) do the ladder trucks (my little dept doesnt have a ladder truck) not carry any other tools? For example, could they not be dressing a hydrant, starting to roll out supply line or performing a 360? 2) why did command pick that spot to setup? 3) are ladder guys not interior attack trained? I was surprised to see the pumper arrive and the ladder guys were immediately grabbing the lines, fully on scba and ready to begin an aggressive transitional. I'm sure there are reasons for all of these but I just need them explained.

    • @abel5333
      @abel5333 9 месяцев назад +1

      U dont need them explained move on 😂

  • @Chris-hy6jy
    @Chris-hy6jy 9 месяцев назад +1

    That ladder truck was put to good use! 🤦‍♂️

  • @richardbedard1245
    @richardbedard1245 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not a firefighter, but it seems to me that, with all the firetrucks on scene, there'd be more water going on the fire. And why were the "engines" so late? I guess I've watched too many David Decker videos!

  • @leahacosta1396
    @leahacosta1396 9 месяцев назад +6

    That's a whole lot of firefighters not actually fighting anything.

  • @lindabainbridge7574
    @lindabainbridge7574 9 месяцев назад +5

    Hi, i know that some fire trucks carry water, and others get the water from hydrants. But from reading some of the comments, they are complaining about the first truck on scene not putting any water on the fire. With respect i have an honest question...could you explain what the role of that first truck is

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      It was a Tiller Truck
      It's primary purpose is to bring a really big ladder to the scene along with manpower, smaller ladders, and equipment
      No not all fires require the ladder but the manpower is essential
      ruclips.net/video/AZp_EnnAJ8w/видео.html

    • @wolfshadow1968
      @wolfshadow1968 9 месяцев назад +1

      To block access and make all the others job harder of course. Notice how the "Command" vehicle assisted in blocking access?

    • @NoName5589
      @NoName5589 9 месяцев назад

      It sounds like the first truck needs another truck to be able to use water at all so they can't do anything about the fire.
      They probably just showed up first as they were the closest but at that point their job is to secure the scene and get an initial inspection to make sure the owners are out and let the operator know if the scope of the 911 call is accurate
      That being done they can only wait for a pump truck to arrive

  • @brucestewart5939
    @brucestewart5939 9 месяцев назад +1

    Like the 1st truck, even if it was a tanker could have saved it? Hell no! That fire was internal all the way up to the rafter ridge line. Dam near 100% loss.

  • @wesrobinson7366
    @wesrobinson7366 4 месяца назад

    As a driver in the truck company I'd have made the left and got the guys to take the 5 inch to a plug. We have a great pump and act as a pass through all the time. Then we would have the ladder up in less than 1 minute. I'd have used the ladder to flood the deck area once we had positive water from the plug. As the next engine arrives we would stop the ladder water flow and move to attack lines. Not sure it would have helped much but would have had water on the fire before the engine showed up.

  • @observador124
    @observador124 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sou um instalador de sistemas de combate a incêndios e acho que em muitos casos, como esse, os bombeiros demoram muito tempo para jogar a água.

  • @bobbyd8503
    @bobbyd8503 9 месяцев назад +2

    Why park the command vehicle in the way??

  • @ccc530
    @ccc530 9 месяцев назад +1

    Regarding how long it took for the engine to arrive: 4-6 minutes is considered average and good. This looks bad because the ladder arrived so much sooner.
    Having said that, are there ways to speed up getting water on a fire? Absolutely! It starts with public education on prevention and initial suppression of incipient fires.

  • @Antzdownunder
    @Antzdownunder 4 месяца назад

    Hello from Australia, you fire fighters do a great job, thank you for your service, bless you all.

  • @rosemaryarmitage3391
    @rosemaryarmitage3391 9 месяцев назад +7

    It is a shame that people stop to see what is happening. But they are not doing the fire department any favour. They have a job to do and you stop where a fire truck need to be. That is how accident happen.

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, especially a two-lane road like that - much better to get/stay out of the way.

    • @G-force_Motorsport
      @G-force_Motorsport 9 месяцев назад +1

      Or at least go park somewhere, then come back on foot if you have to watch it, and then stay at least on the other side of road

  • @krimstix
    @krimstix 9 месяцев назад +6

    no sense of urgency and it looks like they don't know wtf they're doing

  • @lachimolala41
    @lachimolala41 9 месяцев назад +2

    crazy to see the water filling the hose @ 5:28

    • @SeattleTrafficCams
      @SeattleTrafficCams  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it's always cool seeing that - thanks for watching!

  • @north6282
    @north6282 9 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t want to be critical Seattle is a good fire department as soon as the truck got there called a working fire should’ve told the first engine in drop a line in that way they could use the deck gun on the back porch that being said with the time maybe the engines were on other calls and out of the area that’s why I took a little bit to get there also the chief was there and he should’ve told engine to bring a line in.
    We see what we see in here when we hear on the radio we was there we don’t know the circumstances but once I got there, they got water going, and I’m sure they did an outstanding job getting it on their control

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +1

      I get a laugh when people who have no clue what they are talking about criticize those that do

  • @eddiespain2410
    @eddiespain2410 9 месяцев назад +4

    I give the FD a D on this one....

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      Says the 🤡 who has no clue what he's even looking at

    • @timburks3806
      @timburks3806 9 месяцев назад

      I'm with you on this one. That ladder truck was nothing but in the way. Million dollar truck and no water.

    • @Exiledz_
      @Exiledz_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@timburks3806 its a tiller truck, they dont carry water. they were useful, and conducted search and rescue. i cant expect much, because you dont know anything about firefighting

  • @ltoharry53
    @ltoharry53 9 месяцев назад +3

    Where are the police to shut down traffic

    • @wolfshadow1968
      @wolfshadow1968 9 месяцев назад

      They came, they saw, they left. Seattle...it's what they do...

  • @firefighterpk2440
    @firefighterpk2440 9 месяцев назад +1

    That Tower doesn't carry any LDH to stretch a hydrant and get water flowing until the first due Engine checks on?

  • @owensweetland342
    @owensweetland342 5 месяцев назад +1

    "How do those steaks look?"

  • @joegaito702
    @joegaito702 7 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent job let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us even by Seattle fd your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated appreciated thanks don't work to hard love and appreciate you guys thanks you guys thanks great job great catches as usual still going strong way to ! Joe

  • @davidweston6653
    @davidweston6653 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great work as usual. Tks for getting this to us 🚒💨

  • @tg5298
    @tg5298 9 месяцев назад +2

    That has to be one of the poorest responses delay in getting water on house I have ever seen

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      They had water on the fire one minute after the Engine arrived

    • @tg5298
      @tg5298 9 месяцев назад

      Wrong

    • @benclarke8840
      @benclarke8840 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@tg5298not wrong get your facts right

    • @df446
      @df446 8 месяцев назад

      60 seconds for first water on fire.

  • @momofcalgary
    @momofcalgary 9 месяцев назад +12

    I am a Canadian, watching these amazing fire fighter is.. to say the least.. top notch. I have so much respect for these men. Much love and respect from BC Canada

  • @erikanderson1915
    @erikanderson1915 9 месяцев назад +1

    Exelent communications between dispatch, command, and units

  • @brokenmotorwagen1328
    @brokenmotorwagen1328 9 месяцев назад +4

    The roof just caught fire as they were arriving... ten minutes later "fire is escalating". Wow, what were they looking at all that time?

  • @JB91710
    @JB91710 9 месяцев назад +7

    The first arriving unit to a residential fire should be an Engine with at least 500 gallons of water, a Deck Gun and booster lines on reels. You lay in the hydrant line, park with as line of site on the burning material, activate the pump and deck gun all that Visible Burning Material starting 30 seconds after parking. While the DG is drowning all that burning material and protecting the exposures, firefighters can get fully dressed and pull lines to surgically apply water.
    Watch how long it takes them to get water flowing on that fire. They did absolutely NOTHING! We are talking Seattle Washington, not some tiny town in the sticks. The threat is at the end of the structure, and they are going inside to find and fight it. let's see how that works for them and the homeowner.
    More units show up and STILL no Deck Gun! That was beyond ridiculous, but it was very typical of USA fireplaying!

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +3

      Good ole JB proving once again that he has never been a firefighter and knows nothing about firefighting other than what the box of his Lego Fire Station playset told him 😆😅😂🤣

    • @mackflickerson6722
      @mackflickerson6722 9 месяцев назад +1

      While I 100% agree with you about the supply line and a deck gun, the statement about which apparatus should arrive first indicates a lot of ignorance regarding the urban fire service. In most cities, the on-duty personnel are assigned to apparatus for a shift. They go out the door on that apparatus. If you’re at a station with an engine and a truck, the engine is already out on something, and a first-in fire comes through, guess who gets there first? The truck. This is the nature of the beast. Urban fire departments are stretched as thin as they’ve ever been. Resource allocation is basically a crap shoot. This part is not the fault of the boots on the ground. It’s thanks to budget cuts and call volumes through the roof. Now the abysmal display of fireground tactics on this video? Yeah, that’s inexcusable.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      @@mackflickerson6722
      Save your breath... JB is the biggest phony on YouToob
      He pretends to have experience but has outed himself as a fraud numerous times, he cannot even keep his lies straight. That is why he has been blocked by most of the dedicated firefighting channels.
      He is the Jeremy Dewitte of the firefighting world 😉

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 9 месяцев назад

      @@mackflickerson6722 Great Guesswork and hypothetical situations!

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 месяца назад

      @@virgilhilts3924 Damn! Another perfect opportunity for you to spell out exactly where and how I am wrong, and you didn't take advantage of it. Maybe next time you'll grow a set and debate tactics with me, Virgil.

  • @Species1571
    @Species1571 9 месяцев назад +1

    They call for another truck, which I take to mean tower ladder, when the first one was never used.

  • @benjaminodhner1175
    @benjaminodhner1175 4 месяца назад

    The Young Pride Landers from The Lion Guard symbolized firefighters with royal shields and fire trucks with mopeds!

  • @joegaito702
    @joegaito702 6 месяцев назад +2

    Way to go let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen even by Seattle fd your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great catches as usual still going strong keep them safe out there stay safe out there don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks you guys rock way to go !❤❤😂😂 Joe

  • @CPcamaro
    @CPcamaro 3 месяца назад

    @11:45 - PD: "Sitting in my car blocking traffic is just too much work... I'm outta here, gotta go get lunch!" Cars proceed to drive into the hoses....

  • @user-bf4yf1vc2x
    @user-bf4yf1vc2x 8 месяцев назад +1

    초기에 진압이 아주 중요하다..소방차 도착후 물을
    뿌리는데 시간이 너무 걸린다

  • @thomasfletcher760
    @thomasfletcher760 9 месяцев назад +3

    The 16th was the same day LaCenter had a structure fire that became a brush fire . They had crews from Vancouver fire , Clark/Cowlitz fire , and Cowlitz county in Longview , besides DNR

  • @briananderson8733
    @briananderson8733 9 месяцев назад +4

    Was this a controlled burn. Looks like they have no plans on putting the exterior fire out. And what wsa that ladder truck doing..... Nothing.... I would love to know what was going on in terms of planning the fire fight.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are talking about

    • @WATrafficCamResponses
      @WATrafficCamResponses 9 месяцев назад +2

      If you look carefully you can see the first truck making forcible entry to the fence to give access to the exterior fire, then enter the building for a search.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад

      @@WATrafficCamResponses
      Oh please... you and you observations and rational thought
      😉👍

  • @daverice2528
    @daverice2528 4 месяца назад

    This shows a common problem where patrol units arrive on the scene before fire units and attempt to update the situation but fire will not modify response until the fire due fire vehicle arrives.

  • @ykmjc
    @ykmjc 16 дней назад

    If anyone was trapped in this house, they didn't have a chance. Taking their sweet time!

  • @cheryelreyhons3721
    @cheryelreyhons3721 9 месяцев назад +9

    Enjoyed the first guy walking around with a ladder wondering where to put it. Six minutes to get the first line open, at least 10 min before second line running. Niiiiice.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +4

      The Engine had water on the fire one minute after arrival

    • @abel5333
      @abel5333 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yep better than you would ever do

    • @df446
      @df446 8 месяцев назад

      60 seconds for first water on fire.

  • @roddychristodoulou9111
    @roddychristodoulou9111 9 месяцев назад +3

    They might as well let the structure burn down and save the water because that's what happened in the end .

  • @philiprodney2164
    @philiprodney2164 9 месяцев назад +1

    Three. Minutes in and no sign of a hose yet, one fireman with a ladder and another with a chain saw ,in the mean tine the house has now caught fire

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thats because Tiller Trucks do not carry water

    • @Brian13549
      @Brian13549 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well we can tell you know nothing about fire fighting

    • @philiprodney2164
      @philiprodney2164 9 месяцев назад

      @@Brian13549 I know that English fire fitters would not have taken as long to get water on the blaze

  • @christopherwhite829
    @christopherwhite829 4 месяца назад

    From the time it started recording of this video it took almost 5 minutes for an engine to get on seen Seattle fire department might want to think about it increasing the size of their fire to more engines in a couple more ladders

  • @CharlesSoden
    @CharlesSoden 9 месяцев назад +3

    Fire departments love to spend big money on thes expensive tiller ladders, but in this case they added zero value. First on scene means nothing, they didnt even bother to deploy ladder or stretch lines while waiting on water. Waste of resources. They should cross staff the ladder with another unit and leave it in the garage until a high rise call comes

  • @kerrykeehn1694
    @kerrykeehn1694 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is the most incompetent fire department. It took almost 5 minutes to get the first water on the fire, as a volunteer I would be totally ashamed of this fire department.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 9 месяцев назад +1

      From the time the Engine arrived to first water on the fire was one minute
      But thanks for showing us that you have no clue what you are babbling about

    • @kerrykeehn1694
      @kerrykeehn1694 9 месяцев назад +1

      You know, I noticed one thing about your responses. They show that you can't respond with anything but criticism and ridicule. I was a volunteer but the Captain always put me on the nozzle because he knew I could always be trusted. I've rescued more than I person from a fire. I hope Seattle FD videoed the incident and will be using it as a teaching tool.

    • @df446
      @df446 8 месяцев назад

      First water on the fire in 60 seconds.

    • @virgilhilts3924
      @virgilhilts3924 8 месяцев назад

      @@kerrykeehn1694
      "I noticed one thing about your responses. They show that you can't respond with anything but criticism and ridicule"
      -The very first line of my response to you was a FACT
      -One that you utterly ignored as it is contrary to your assertion
      -One that is proven by the video
      "I was a volunteer but the Captain always put me on the nozzle because he knew I could always be trusted"
      -Your words *prove* that you've never spent even a single day as a firefighter

  • @bmck5002
    @bmck5002 9 месяцев назад +2

    Took them a long time to put out those bushes out front lol...

  • @JasonGamingForever
    @JasonGamingForever 4 месяца назад

    I cant believe the amount of traffic that keeps coming through there. It endangers the firefighters.

  • @antonbrum5492
    @antonbrum5492 9 месяцев назад +6

    The response time and actual extinguishing seem to take for ever...

    • @peeterl.2016
      @peeterl.2016 9 месяцев назад +1

      it took less than 5 minutes for an engine to arrive. It is pretty fast in a big city.