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getting a lot of comments about not buying the book to not give them money - it’s £3 pre owned on ebay so i promise they will not get a cent so don’t worry about it !
your engagement is helpful regardless so i appreciate it
You have such an esteemed way of talking I love you so much!
Wow you're changing my perspective right now, you are allowing me to live right now, thank you!
I was really debating liking the video because of this reason so thank you for the clarification
It's on zlibrary!
oh my god please i need your take on their braindead book ILL BEG 😂😂😭
Sinning with God sounds like a great name for a late night show ngl
that’s so true
id watch it
Name of the live band ... The Nephilim....? lol
@@c.b.barlow Lucifer and the Third
I feel like stanzi would make a podcast named that
sinning has honestly became a hobby of mine, in a god honoring way of course
same, also all god honoring ofc
Lmao yes all very God honoring ofc;]
Yup very god honoring 😌
Considering that there is a religious guilt kink, I think sinning can in fact be extremely god honoring
i sin so much in a god honoring way people call me a satan spawn, and satan and god used to be besties so i think theyre trying to say im besties with god
People who view toys during sex as competition, need therapy. Sincerely; someone whos worked through that.
Yeah, like, that’s your friend. That’s your team member. It’s not taking anything from you, it’s an extension of you.
Can't toys be enjoyed together? But what do I know? I'm ace lol.
they make great great earrings too!
@@wintergray1221 yes
Props to you for working through that!!
With the “he’s testing me to see how much I love him” at this point God just reminds me of an abusive dad
He is. Just look at the old testament story where he's like "sacrifice your son to show me how much you love me" and then stops the sacrifice at the last second because abraham had proven his loyalty by being willing to do it. He wants everything you own, your undivided attention and submission and punishes you the moment you dare do anything for yourself. It's textbook narcissistic abuse, glorified.
@@Itri_Vega silverback god ooh ooh ooh
@@Itri_Vega I opened the replies to write this but it seems like you did it for me! thank you!
or an abusive/insecure boyfriend
@@Itri_Vega Exactly and on top of that, the couple had been praying for a child for years. And every time God would say yes you will have a son just keep believing in me it will happen soon. He made them wait decades if I’m not mistaken so then for him to be like now sacrifice the child I have made you wait years for is so sick.
Seriously, these people say that sex is bad but then the instant I say I'm Ace they have a conniption
they get so personally offended at the idea you dont want to fuck ppl just by looking at them. Its truly wild
"oh, i'm sure once you find the right person, you'll want get married as soon as possible and have dozens of kids!"
- i heard this when my ace/aro friend told another person in high school that they weren't interested in relationships.
It's like you can't win 😂😂🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭
I feel this pain
@@iscariette i think it's about how they said it there. not being interested in relationship doesn't immediately means never will....and that person treated the statement the same way.
like my frnds are having bad luck in their dating lives and wen they say I'm not interested in relationship...this is my first response, oh! wen the right person comes along, you'll know.
and ik they're not aro/ace, maybe that person didn't know either.
just giving another pov
"If no one had sexual desires, there'd be no marriage".
My married asexual friends would disagree.
Step outside your limited world view for like five seconds, Kristin. Or whatever her name is.
yeah becuase theres a thing called liking your partner not jsut to have children
@@Chib_Lee oh no 🙀 you're ruining the straight's whole thing *scandalized gasp*
who ever heard of liking your spouse? Gross
don't you know your supposed ONLY have sex to make babies and be miserable till you die? 🙄
"sex is a reflection of Christ and the church" I love when she implies that Jesus/god is having sex with all his followers vicariously through their spouses
AND that they’re his children too ?!!??!???!??!?
There are cults whose 'acts of worship' involve men 'channeling' Jesus or God or the Holy Ghost or something like that, and then coercing female followers to engage in sexual acts because it's 'what God wants'. It's so fucked up :/
Thats a feature not a bug. It gets weird. That whole church is the wife and jesus is the husband thing gets...very sincere and deep. They *mean* it the way they're saying it. It gets weird. Really, really weird. Like...comparing your wife to the church and jesus and he wants to love you the same deep way. From a recovering catholic. Its not so much an implication as it is directly stated lol.
@@TheQueerKiwi HELP- 💀
reminds me of that cult that has sex with Jesus
Her: "so this is sex? I waited like a good christian girl for this? Well I guess this is what god had in mind, guess I'll teach myself to settle!" // her husband: is bad at sex because he never learned anything about it except 'there is a hole. When you get married you put your thing in there and god gives your wife a baby.'
if i am not mistaken, one fore sure but i think both of their husbands are "ex gay" and went to one of those camps. so yeah i can think of a few extra reasons why, besides general religious ignorance, why they might be having just the worst time in the bedroom
@@Saibellus That's really tragic then, like its not good for anyone bug because they think masturbation is basically evil they can't even enjoy themselves alone, let alone together...
@@Saibellus Actually at this moment in time that's just rumors, neither have been confirmed, one had even made a video clearly upset by said rumours. And it's not really anyones place to start rumours about another persons sexuality.
@@oceanoqraphy well, i got the info from an interview they did. the girls and their husbands i mean. it was not the focus of the video but one of em brings up the whole "struggle" with sinful sexual desires and going to a counseling camp for it. im not sure if it applies to both bc per my memory thats where the husbands said they met, but i could be wrong ab that part.
@@Saibellus i know the interview youre talking about. afterwards a lot of people tried to reach out to the dude and ask if he was ok, and he made a video telling everyone he was fine and definitely seemed not to want the rumors (though he didnt directly mention anything gay related)
It's so weird to me how Bethany keeps talking about "how to thrive as a single girl" and Kristen (lol, Isabel) harps on about how sinful masturbation is.
It's like their whole "Girl Defined" thing is telling girls what NOT to do.
Yup, they're defining everything a girl is not (in their fundy worldview)
It absolutely is. I was raised in the same type of Christianity as theirs in the 80s-90s, and i knew all the things i couldn’t do but not what i could. Eg, i knew i couldn’t do anything more intimate than holding hands with a boy, but nothing about consent or bodily autonomy. Everything was either completely innocent or a sin
@@alisaurus4224 In these sects of Christianity, consent isn't a thing and women don't get bodily autonomy because they "belong to their husbands". Icky. Gross.
@@justaperson4656 oh believe me, I’m well aware. I was taught that masturbation is self-adultery against your future husband 🙄
@@alisaurus4224 my apologies but also "don't cheat on your future husband with yourself" is HILARIOUS
The worst part is teenage girls are listening to her and thinking she knows what she's talking about. Getting all tied up in themselves, while adult woman are just pitying her.
Yeah she really does have that "mom" or "teacher" kind of tone of voice, like just that specific type of authoritative that kids are used to being used for them. She knows who her target audience is.
Just got called out for being ace by Christian “imagine not having sexual desire” 😅 yeah imagine lmao
Bruh christians should love you for not wanting to do the sex
@@genericname2747 sweats in NB yeah I don’t think so plus she would probably try to pray my autism away lmao
Imagine 😂😅
@kassandra odessa just a god
@@randompeople3160 I mean I'm literally named after a god lmao
if you do buy their book please get it second hand so you aren't directly supporting these women because they are not it 😭
That's my main worry, it's like buying Harry Potter books and lining Rowling's pockets. Ethical consumption is tricky.
@@Turquerina yeah that's exactly what i was worried about
Or check it out from a library! I'm really hoping we get a Kiwi review, though 🤞🏻
@@Cecil... Thats a good idea, and same
of course!! don’t worry, i wouldn’t buy it if i couldn’t get it second hand ! better option all ‘round
You better spin that toy on a finger and then grab it like a gun and pretend you're a cowboy or else you're using it wrong
i love this comment
can it really even count as self pleasure if you aren’t pretending to be a cowboy the entire time ?
@@murdocniccalsbinder you are so right
@@larslionheart YEEHAW
@@murdocniccalsbinder this got me lmaoo 💀💀💀
ah yes, religious trauma hours / hj
Remove the /hi that’s 100% /s lmaooo
At some points of her speech I got "sex with my husband is so bad that I needed to find deep religion to justify how that's fine" vibes.
As for her masturbation fantasies: maybe she imagined sleeping with god and obviously, a mere human cannot stack up to that. Because it can't be just bad sex. Surely. (Spoiler: it is.)
Being ace I understand preferring fantasies over the real deal but she is making it everyone else's problem while also denying herself the pleasure. If these two weren't openly transphobic I would feel bad for them.
I mean, her husband (and her sister’s husband) did go to conversion therapy, so I could see why there would be absolutely no passion or pleasure
@@one-onessadhalf3393 I didn't know that, oh yikes. Makes an unfortunate amount of sense.
@@one-onessadhalf3393
That is APOCALYPTIC infromation to hear... that sucks so bad 😭😭😭
@@one-onessadhalf3393 That‘s misinformation that had been spread. Jimmy Snow did an apology video since he also helped spreading that even further.
So, please look into this again: No one of those husbands did conversion therapy and blindly believing lies on the internet will only help the fundamentalists discrediting us unfortunately 😢
I remember watching a video of theirs with Trixie Mattel reacting to them. It was a learning experience as to how big an Ivory tower do you have to live in to cultivate such thoughts.
Just wait till you hear what they have to say about drag.
ohhhh Trixie was wonderful. she literally said "they seem like they hate each other, right?" and i can't unsee it
@@veggiesnake4430 no bc they totally do
@@veggiesnake4430 they absolutely hate each other no fuckin doubts
God, Trixxie’s videos on these two are so delightful.
Why sin with god when you can be a god?
That’s the mode I’m on
Because 🎶It's tough to be a god🎶
@@dana-ger_to_society1011 tread where mortals have not trod
Be deified when really you’re a sham
@@catupatree1786 Be an object of devotion, be the subject of psalms.
Why be a god when you can kill a god?
Aw listening to Kristen talk about her sex life with her husband is so sad. Girl, tell him how to pleasure you! Penetration only doesn’t work for a lot of people! Also masturbating being bad doesn’t make any sense to me either. Shouldn’t they think that’s better than having sex with another person?
You’re just supposed to suppress it until you have a sanctified outlet, ie a spouse. Men can have wet dreams to get physical release but that’s rarer for woman afaik.
As Alisaurus 42 also indicated, I have a feeling that she's not "allowed" to tell him what she wants. These women constantly talk about how to pleasure their husband, but never about how to pleasure themselves. They are trapped in something and then are told they should be happy that they are trapped that way.
their rhetoric is extremely hinged on when the bible says that women need to be subservient to their husbands, are obligated to ensuring THEIR pleasure, that sex is ONLY between (straight) married couples, and probably has a sprinkle of "sex is only for procreation." they are extremely good at talking around these subjects and claiming that "they're good, actually"... so no, pleasuring yourself is not better, because sex is a right you're granted once you're married. 🙄
I don't know which of the two it is because I cant tell them apart but one of them is married to a man who underwent conversion therapy for being gay. So she's in a marriage with someone who isn't sexually attracted to her, which makes it even harder to reach common ground for both partners.
@@Itri_Vega I don’t think that claim about the husband going through conversion therapy was confirmed. I hope it isn’t, for their sake.
I'm chronically ill, and visibly disabled. One time, my dental hygienist told me that god created people like me as a lesson for everyone else. She told me to be brave. I was reeling, I spent the time my teeth were being cleaned processing what she'd said.
Ditch that dentist
that's horrifying, I'm so sorry
Holy shit. That’s SUPER messed up
That is absolutely fucked up and I hope you got the hell out of dodge.
Report her ass to the relevant governing body too. Good gosh.@@Illogical_Tales
"Stimulate your clit or else you're disrespecting god's design" is one of the best things I've ever heard, thank you for that.
🤣right?? and that actually IS the logical thought process from 'a divine being designed our bodies'. so much of what passes for religion is purely human bias & completely contradictory to the premise
If it's not meant to produce feelings of pleasure, why are there more than 100,000 nerve endings in it?
I was raised in a church and for many years now I've considered myself non-religious. There were so many hurtful things they taught me to say and think, and when it came to the part at the end with the "child with cancer", I was taught that people who have those bad things happening to them, like being disabled, having cancer, going hungry, is because "God chose those people to have harder lives because they have the strongest souls." HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT??? If God is so loving and merciful, why would he intentionally make his children suffer??? It makes zero sense, and I'm just so glad I opened my eyes and woke up from the nightmare that it was so be christian.
That’s what originally made me question the church. One of my young cousins ended up with cancer there family really struggled with that whole ordeal, meanwhile the church was saying that everything happens for a reason(not directly to me). They were 6 and if this “god” is so loving then why the fuck does a kid get cancer,
And what is his divine reason to be prick.
@@Scrimbly_guy the explanation that God “allows Satan to do that” or “allows evil to happen” to people but “doesn’t want them to happen/doesn’t cause it” is still like but he ALLOWED it. Like, he had the power to stop it but didn’t? He doesn’t want us to suffer but allows it? It doesn’t make since. He’s all-powerful, he can stop it. But he doesn’t. Also the Old Testament. It seems like he wanted that village to turn to salt. It seems like he wanted to flood the world.
@@mckenzie2423 It's like a quote I like about where evil comes from.
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he isn't omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then why is there evil? And if he is neither willing nor able, why call him a god?
@@cynister7384 If humans were created using the image of God, then it's safe to assume that God is capable of both evil and good like humans, and we're all trying not to offend him to survive so he doesn't destroy us on a whim 😂
@@kaihiroku8495 So like an abusive relationship
My mom is a nurse and works with elderly nuns to take care of them and someone asked "what do you think heaven is like?🤔" and one of the nuns Dead ass said "I think it's like an org@sm that never ends 🤭" 😭
that sounds extremely painful and exhausting xD
@@happytofu5 Right not christen but that sounds like torture is it around other people like is it a group of people or alone
I'm a christian. The Bible is definitely incredibly vague sometimes. It NEVER mentions masturbation. And while it encourages us to have certain standards for ourselves, it's clear the most important thing is to "love the lord your god with all your heart, soul mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself."
Maybe that's what the problem is- if you love yourself by "loving yourself", and you're supposed to love your neighbor just the way you love yourself...
@@sunnyquinn3888 Got a snicker out of me, I like your train of thought
I don't like when people add to the Bible and set more rules than what we're explicitly stated in the Bible. Like if God didn't explicitly mention it, then it's probably for a reason and it isn't something He wanted us to focus on. And He knows that since the beginning of time people were doing that. Who knows if Jesus also experienced these feelings too when he was human. Sure he could have been Ace but he also couldn't have been 👀
Damn skippy and amen! Well said.
^^^^^
The thing about God just wanting you to walk on a tightrope and figure it out while throwing tests and trials at you being ridiculous was a little funny because thats exactly what I was taught in church
God is a terrible tightrope walking instructor, never take classes from him. All he does is throw stuff at you.
omg it sounds so manipulative : (
That sort of makes it sound like the universe is God's own private Squid Game.
That’s awful! I’ve never heard that from my churches, what the hell was wrong with your pastor?????
@@caidalee1994 i lived in a republican area where existential dread was actually a blessing from god or smth idk i only got scared in church
Saying the thing about Demi sexual really made me feel good because, I’ve been thinking I’m not Demi sexual because I enjoy self pleasure, and I’ve felt so guilty. So thank you for making me realize I am valid in my sexual identity.
Ayyy I'm AegoAce and had the same feelings or told myself before I realized I was on the ace spectrum that I couldn't be since I enjoyed that too. But I kept reminding myself that the ace spectrum is valid because that type of attraction towards other human beings just simply isn't there and that's what makes it valid. Like with demi, you don't experience that attraction right off the bat until the close bond is formed and THEN you can experience that and that's totally valid too.
Sorry if I overstepped my boundaries 😅 but I just went through something similar and Demi's are valid asf ♥️
I waver between saying I'm ace or demisexual because I've never been in an intimate, romantic relationship with anyone, so how can I know? Then sometimes I wonder if I'm also aro, but I love, LOVE romance fiction. I've just never been in a situation where I had those kind of feelings for a real person. So, basically I'm a mess lol.
@@wintergray1221 It's actually pretty common for aro/ace people to only feel attraction to fictional or otherwise unattainable people.
@@cynister7384 Really? I will have to look into it more. Romance is my favorite genre, and the only one I feel like writing in. I was under the impression that aros generally eschew it or feel uncomfortable/disturbed by it.
@@wintergray1221 Dude, ace people are some of the horniest people I know when it comes to reading smut, the main point is that the romantic/sexual attraction usually isn't directed at any real person.
I’m screaming, who in the FLUFF thinks you have to ‘retrain your body’ what is it? A dog?? A bird-?!
I’d imagine you’d have to restrain your body during an exorcism or something, NOT ENJOYING YOURSELF
Interestingly enough I have heard of this before, but mostly directed at owners and operators of penises, because of the sometimes *very* intense friction habits that some develop that are impossible to reproduce with a partner's body, thus making it difficult to impossible to climax with their help. However the recommendation is usually to mix up masturbatory habits and not simply revert to that one thing that works if a new method doesn't work. In Kristen's case this would hopefully entail exploring pleasurable foreplay *with* her husband and not just doing P-in-V sex *alone* and trying to force it to work. It is pretty sad that her husband doesn't seem to inspire lustful thoughts/feelings in her :(
She has stated many times on her channel that she is a lesbian and went through conversion therapy.
@@visamanThat's actually so sad...
Honestly the "cancer is for us to be thankful of what we have" thing is like "Well if that's the case, its basically like a tyrannical ruler gathering everyone in an arena, picking out the most beloved member, and killing them, then saying 'thank me for not killing you instead.'"
Isn't that the premise for the "Saw" franchise?
The fact that she felt she needed to "retrain" her body once she got married just says it all, doesn't it? 😕 She gave up what made her feel good to please her husband and is doing what she can to cope, thinking this is the way things should be. How sad... 😔
To be honest they don't want afab people to ever find out what makes them feel good. They want them to have no knowledge of their needs and desires, so they can be malleable for their husbands and do what they want.
@@abbymaddox7616 Exactly, and it's damn sad. And horrifying.
Sex in general and self pleasure is literally healthy and a stress reliever all my doctors ask me when was the last time I had sex.
And if men don't do it often enough they have a higher chance for pro state cancer
I mean... They might be asking for another reason. For example Std, pregnancies.
true! the endorphins released during sex or self-pleasure not only relieve your stress, but they also can relieve physical pain.
@@updated_autopsy_report1 Maybe for you it relieves physical pain. (My boyfriend has a big d. I think sometimes he forgets that he has to be gentle.)
@@argonanarchy3882 yeah well the pain you're talking about is from your boyfriend. I was talking about the pain you feel from other situations. like back pain, headache, menstrual cramps, etc. and one of endorphin's jobs is to block the pain receptors and the hormone is produced from the pleasure you feel from sex or self-pleasure. hope this helps!
I mostly just feel bad for her and her husband's intimacy. Idk why str8 people and religious str8 people specifically don't communicate about intimacy more if they think it's such a god-given thing. Clearly she's prioritizing her husband's pleasure when she says she has to reframe her own thoughts and desires to be compatible with him. Like what? Why can't he meet you in the middle? I hope they figure it out so she can stop blaming herself :(
20:50 I always find it weird when someone says mas*urbation is gonna make you not enjoy se× with your partner... partnered se× still makes me 0rgasm faster, no matter how many toys I've used before, sometimes you just have to show them what you like 🤷🏻♀️
And I had a friend who would suddenly think about completely ridiculous things no matter what we were doing (like, I would be kissing his neck and he'd suddenly start laughing and say "imagine if brains could transform into other body parts"), maybe her brain works in a similar way that she's not thinking about what she's currently doing with her husband 🤔😅
Why are the x characters like that? I’m just curious lol
@@regularly_priced knowing RUclips, I've been afraid that it would either hide or completely delete my comment, it's happened to me a few times before 😅🤷🏻♀️
I do that. Like，just think of random things at inappropriate times. In group therapy we learnt about mindfulness (being in the present) and I really only use it when I'm with my partner lol.
@@noname-ur4gr ahhh that makes a lot of sense. I don’t even know where to find that character in my keyboard
@@argonanarchy3882 I think that sometimes, our thoughts are hard to control. If she did think about someone else to get turned on then yeah, that does sound like a problem. However, I think that it is okay to think about something else entirely during time with your partner. Tbh, I think that you shouldn't have to force yourself to enjoy what you're doing and if you think about something else entirely because that's what your mind starts doing when you're relaxed, I don't think that's a problem unless it bothers you personally. I mean, at least we had something to laugh about 🤷🏻♀️
Pro tip for anyone out there practicing abstinence - do NOT abstain completely with your partner. You still need to explore your sexual compatibility with them. Make out, grope each other, do kinky stuff if you're into that. Going into a marriage having not explored that at ALL is such a bad idea. Don't be like Bethany lol
I don't understand when engaged partners don't even move in together first. If you cannot successfully cohabitate with someone for several months/years before marriage, you WILL NOT have a successful marriage.
@@wintergray1221 It's purely purity culture. They think you'll just animalistic devolve into having sex. I'm an abstainer and my parents can't understand how my boyfriend and I can sleep in a bed together without having sex.
My dumbass planning on waiting until marriage 🤪
Nah but I agree. I wouldn't suggest complete abstinence for most people. I'm fine with it simply because sex isn't important to me and if it truly doesn't work out I lose nothing really. And I'm too uncomfortable to try anything beforehand. Thems the breaks I guess. But figuring it out before marriage makes it a hell of a lot easier
I grew up with people who thought exactly like this, hell, you could even say that I thought this way too, to a certain extent.
The whole discussion on self pleasure reminds me of a specific event that happened our senior year. The guy was a year older, so he'd visit his gf at school for lunch. They were having s3x by this point, despite being religious zealots who screamed sinner at everyone and anyone over the slightest offense. Their excuse was they "couldn't help it" and clearly their situation was different and god forgave them personally.
So the guy, knowing she was frustrated she wasn't finding s3x pleasurable bought her a vibrator and gave it to her. She flipped out and was wailing and squealing and panicking and yelling that he needed to return it. She actually refused to touch it, dead ass. This girl who always boasted about being smart and responsible, etc, refused to touch a still packaged s3x toy.
The guy was understandably confused and shocked and tried to say that he didn't understand, he thought she'd be okay with it. Basically she shamed him into returning it.
She told me this as if it were a scandal and the most horrific experience of her life. I was super confused and asked what was wrong with it and that I thought it was a smart idea, which sent her off her rocker and into a frenzy all over again. She'd rather raw dog for 4 times a day, not have any pleasure in it and say that that wasn't a sin (again, God gave her special permission lmao) than touch a s3x toy.
So cut to a year later when she confides in me again that she's still not enjoying s3x, and she hates it. I tell her, hey, have you ever tried touching yourself? She goes off on me about how shocked she is I asked and of course she would never do anything so disgusting. I told her that basically until she gets over it and tries it and learns her own body how could she ever expect to have someone else do it for her? The conversation ended with her still in disgust and I'm pretty sure that even now she's never experienced pleasure.
Indoctrination at that level is truly unfortunate because it's not likely to be overcome by anything save traumatic brain injury.
I eat boiled grass because I don't want to take pleasure from eating.
Would someone wear a blindfold so they cannot take pleasure in watching a sunrise?
Would you wear earplugs so you can't hear birdsong?
Would you eat nothing but boiled soil so as not to take pleasure in food?
If God didn't want you to take sexual pleasure, He wouldn't have given you a clitoris...actually, this is a good argument that Yahweh is a skymommy not a skydaddy, cos the latter would never have thought of giving women a clitoris! lol
This just sounds like puritan christians to me
I can't thank you enough for the implication that god is a being identifying as she/her and has a clit,
And because they liked it so much they gave people one 😂
Hey kiwi. Sorry to bother but I have an interesting take I think. As a Christian I don’t get why we trust a book that was men listening to god, writing it down however they wanted, and then having it translated by more men
I say this all the time! The Bible was written and handled by human hands, and since humans are not perfect wouldn't it be safe to assume that the bible is also not perfect?
As an outsider looking in - if god wanted a special book to be written about him and his morals and ideals, why didn’t he write it himself and give it as a gift to humanity? Then we would have a clear understanding of what he defines as right and wrong and we’d be able to follow accordingly.
@@abbyjentson2563 THISSSSS even historians have said this 😫 like I'm Christian but grew up in a household that believed that the Bible was THE WORD of God and absolutely PERFECT when it was made from a game of Telephone. I no longer hold it to such high regard and still do cultural and language studies when studying the Bible for more context. I keep some morals and lessons to my heart but for passages like saying how important the husbands are and to only consider their pleasure, I side eye because even Jesus wasn't teaching stuff like that. So I take the Bible with a grain of salt now
@@0gammag0 as a Christian, I still ask myself this all the time because this caused so many interpretations and hate to spread because everyone thinks that they are "right" and God "told them etc etc" 🙄
Thanks for the discussion guys. Hope all of you have amazing and productive yet comfortable and relaxing days.
I didn't get engaged with my bf for over 5 years lmaoooo an we're still going to give ourselves time
I don't understand people who rush into things tbh, it's a pattern we should really unlearn as a society
i personally am a very sexual person which makes waiting very difficult but i also do it to bond with the person in a very close and intimate way rather than just for pleasure. my boyfriend and i just hit six months and we’ve definitely (consensually) rushed with sexualand romantic things but we both enjoy it, however i agree that as a society it shouldnt be encouraged but rather accepted so nobody feels like they have to rush. no criticism, i agree, i just wanted to share a different perspective :)
@@faeesomnia I think OP is saying that there’s no need to rush into marriage. OP didn’t say anything about sex. My opinion is that it’s okay to have sex and you don’t need to rush into getting married because you want to have sex.
@@annapruitt5546 If that was how it always was so many people would have been spared from so much pain and embarrassment throughout history
@@annapruitt5546 oh yea i see-
As someone raised Christain who has had many discussions with my formerly-Pentacostal partner on this topic, I have this to say in reply to the question, "Does she want to have sex with god?": yes. Y e s. YES. The amount of church worship songs that can easily be mistaken for love ballads is so high for this exact reason. When I was deep in the Christain sauce as a hormonal teen, my favorite song during worship service had the lyrics, "I want to sit at your feet, drink from the cup in your hand, lay back against you and breathe and feel your heartbeat." The 'you' in that song was God. Another one was a song by Flyleaf that became very mainstream bc a lot of people didn't realize it was a Christain rock band. "I can feel you all around me, thickening the air I'm breathing, holding onto what I'm feeling, savoring a heart that's healing," as well as, "I cry, the light is white, and I see you" are a couple lyrics that stand out to me. These are directed at God. And tbh this is what appealed to me about them at the time, I just didn't know it. I was emotionally ready to start experimenting both romantically and sexually but I would not allow myself to bc I wanted to stay "pure". Instead, I went to Wednesday night service and sang very romantically and sexually implicit worship songs at God lol. If I hadn't changed my beliefs I would likely be caught in the same cycle just like Kristen is.
Oh noooo I liked that song then too lmao.
I'm sorry but Flyleaf songs will always be bops to me 👊😩
I just like Christian rock songs in general due to the sound 😭🤣😂
Several times I have been vibing to a love ballad only for a choir to start up halfway through, and then I start gagging.
I gave up on religion after for years I thought a song they taught me in school was a warning about friends that turn out to bully you, translated it had lyrics roughly like "I have a friend that is stronger than me, he's the best friend in the world,... He's even better than me... but sometimes when I stray away and do what I want to do, he comes crashing down and my world falls apart...." And i thought it was really good at helping me recognise when friends are not actually good friends to you, or are manipulative. And then as some point as a teen I learned it was about God.
These type of Christians are just *SO SUPPRESSED* 😂 like she really did just get online and say her husband didn’t pleasure her and that’s her fault.
"What if no one felt sexual desire" as an asexual- literal dream world. I hate feeling othered and so confused all the time about this thing that everyone supposedly wants that is apparently the peak of pleasure. I always feel like I need to force myself to try it and force myself into a relationship because apparently I'm missing out on the best thing this world has to offer and it would be so much nicer if that didn't exist and it wasn't weird not to want kids.
Where would babies come from then?? Lol. Unless being allosexual was the minority, I guess.
"Therefore I am grateful for my life" oh honey that is not gratitude that's schadenfreude
isn't this a German word that means joy out of sadness?
@@froggywithaheart It's German for happiness at the misfortune of others
@@lizzi-e-izzil exactly...that's what I meant 😅
It's so sad to know people like Girl Defined exist. They could've enjoyed their short life instead of living in misery anticipating a bliss after death that can't be demonstrated
Her talking about re-training her body for sex with her husband is so fucked up. It feels so much like a “I’m meant to be subservient to my husband so if something we’re doing doesn’t feel right, that’s my fault and not his”
Sexual attraction and libido are very different things, you can experience attraction (be allosexual) with a low libido and *not* experience attraction (or rarely experience it/only experience it under certain circumstances - which is the ace spectrum) and have a high libido. Sex repulsion and being sex favourable are also another axis that isn't strictly tied to the attraction itself. It's a pretty common misconception that all asexuals have no libido but that is very much not the case.
-Join an erp server
-Create a new character
-Name him “God”
-Enter someone’s home
-Hide in their closet and judge them silently while they do their things
Savannah, your videos have helped me in my healing from sexual trauma (I'm a sexual assault survivor). It's very helpful to me when you talk about safe sex, sex toys, figuring out your own body etc. It has really helped me heal. THANK YOU
Oh Kristen honey that is so tragic. It’s like I had to stop getting frustrated at the fact that he’s terrible at sex and at the fact that I wanted something different so that I could enjoy it too because I had to remind myself that his pleasure is the only one that matters. that’s heartbreaking! I’ve never been more greatful in my life that my family is not extreme, and that I had the freedom to leave Catholicism peacefully and be able to enjoy myself without being guilt tripped for it.
On thing I never understood about religion…. They say he’s loving and forgiving and the best way to live and honor him is by being a good person. By forgiving people. Being kind….
Yet they’re some of the most judgmental group I’ve ever come across personally.
And forget about it if I say I’m not religious but I am spiritual. They look at me like I’m either a witch or worship satan. Or both. 😂😂
Which, fun fact, satanism isn’t all about evil and the devil. But they wouldn’t know that
This behavior plus actually reading the bible myself instead of listening to what the preacher was cherrypicking is what led to my deconstruction as a teen.
I would rather be shamed for masturbating, then have babies or risk having babies! AWW HELL NAW no children for me.
Sinning with God sounds like a band name or a new Panic! At The Disco song
Sex is cool and all, but I feel way more intimately known when my fiancé knows what I want to order at a drive-thru. You can have sex with anyone who consents. Not everyone knows instantly that you want a spicy chicken sandwich.
haven't watched you for a long time , happy to be back on your chanel ❤️
about this girl : i'm still trully schocked some people really think their personal thoughts schould be rules in someone elses lives
i kinda want you read the book so you can share it with us, but at the same time i don't want you to put yourself through that hahaha
I asked God personally and He said masturbation and queerness are okay.
dude turned water into wine- he’s a cool guy!
"if you're single you can't masturbate because that gets in-between your relationship between you and god"
I'll just imagine I'm fucking god
She is SO close to the point and yet still SO far.
Edit- Kristin NOT Kiwi lol!!!
Why not never unpack? This might as well be your permanent background at this point
Still unpack but leave the boxes in the exact same place with random shit in then
@@charlieandhisantics9954 better, try to make the random shit line up with what the boxes currently look like and never tell anyone you unpacked, voila how long could she then ride the bit before someone called it out
Imagine saving even your first kiss until marriage 😳😂 I actually feel sorry for people who have to / decide to do that 😢
ikr? how sad....
This is really sad... "Sex with my husband is worse than when I jack off. It must be my fault"
Also, damn Kiwi! Your makeup skills are *chef kiss*
This is going to be a sort of TMI comment.
I started working out that stuff felt good when I was very young (maybe 4ish) which is apparently not unusual.
But as I understood what sex was, as someone raised catholic, I developed shame about it.
My view on myself and sex is still really skewed and full of shame now (I'm 30) and I was able to be abused as a teen by a guy who played on my sexual shame and remaining biblical views that were basically all related to sex and how pure and important sex is (despite me no longer being religious by that point I still had the hang ups)
I am openly very sex positive and discuss sex with people and talk about it but personally I still feel a lot of shame around it and cannot have orgasms and never have probably because of the shame and past abuse.
I don't want other girls and young women to have these feelings and put these traumas on themselves because it's a truely horrible feeling to live with every day.
I had a similar experience, masturbating before i knew what it was or sex was, just because it felt good, then being taught that it was actually dirty & sinful the whole time. It also set me up for an abusive situation. I’m now happily married & no longer religious, but i went through a lot of unnecessary suffering and guilt to get here.
I wish you the best and i hope you’re able to get counseling if you want to.
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Tl:Dr for religion: "Let me teach you how to hate yourself"
Quote of the Day: “I like to make videos about things where no one cares about them anymore.”
It's thinking like hers that is the reason I don't know what an orgasm feels like. I didn't grow up in a religious household, but in a rural Southern town with a church on every corner and this shit shoved down my throat. I'm still overcoming the shame and guilt when I think about touching myself. Doesn't help that due to unfortunate circumstances I'm still living at home, so I don't really have the privacy to explore.
I believe in you!😊
If you ever get a chance to get go someplace youre renting a private room, like a hotel, I definitely think you should consider giving yourself a chance.
I feel this
Bathroom’s a good place. If you’re taking a while and/or making noise, just say you’re constipated. Orgasming also doesn’t have to be loud like they do it in the movies. It’s more like letting out a breath you’ve been holding. You also don’t have to penetrate to have an orgasm either; you can stimulate your clit from the outside.
Do it at night.
Assuming you have your own bedroom-
Lock your door, maybe light a candle or turn on a lamp, then play some loud rain asmr on your phone(so no one can hear anything) hop on the bed and try whatever you’re comfortable with.
Hope this helps😊
P.s. if you need help getting “in the mood” reading a raunchy novel may do the trick!
You can find them in most libraries even if the community it’s located in happens to be super conservative lol.
The Bible does NOT forbid self pleasure. Then again, I'm Jewish. 🤷♀ There's a strong tradition of (trying to) living joyfully, and absolutely taking care of our bodies as best we can, including sexual enjoyment.
Oh wow... Yeah, people need to tell their partners what works for them. People with outie-bits don't automatically know how to make people with innie-bits feel good!
so true.
i always used to think that discussing sex with your partner is weird and all but then I got into my first serious relationship (we both lost our virginity to each other) and my boyf asks me how to make me feel good.
like he didn't know how my orgasm would feel like him so he very innocently was like...bc idk how u feel, idk how can make u feel it more.... and honestly, i can basically live orgasm less my entire life knowing that this guy cares lmao...
I am curious: is it just christians that went over the top overinterpreting the bible, or is this something that some jews do as well? I feel like christianity took things a bit too far.
I think different traditions can take it to different, ahem, extreme places. I try to be logical in my interpretations.
The as someone who was raised in a toxic Christian situation the more I open my mind and look around the more I realize that Christianity and repressed toxic purity culture are very very different
And it's SHOCKING
speaking on the whole “there are things he should care about more, like i don’t know, preventing a global pandemic” thing: the previous minister at the church my parents go to said that god created the pandemic so that we as a society could become closer to him.
and they wonder why i stopped going, god sounds like a psycho when you put it that way
One of the big televangelists ranted about how one of the big hurricanes in the US in the early 00s was punishment for lgbtqia+ folks, shortly thereafter his base of operation/where we lived got nailed by a less so but still severe hurricane. I still find that amusingly ironic, kind of mixed messaging about what god 'wanted'
@@bellablue5285 i remember hearing about that 😅
After seeing many videos about girl defined, I am almost 100% certain that I have had more orgasms just this week alone then both bethany and kristen have had in their entire lives combined. The fact that so many women spend their entire lives never experiencing an orgasm despite having a husband and kids and are told to accept it and even gaslight to take the blame for it so sad to me. Imagine if the roles were reversed, men would never get married if it meant they were expected to accept bad sex from their spouse no matter what even if it means they never have a climax as a result. Especially if you also tell them they are not allowed to self-pleasure as well.
God damn girl defined looks like if 2% milk became a person
What the heck man, why do you hate 2% milk?
If you grt the book buy it second hand so your not givung them money if you can :]
When she basically said masturbation felt way better than sex with her husband I just 💀
I kinda just assumed the vibrator earrings didn't work but thank you so much for showing me I was wrong, and they are so much better now.
I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE 💀
Most of the people I've seen reacting to GD are atheists with the goal in mind of proving them wrong on whether or not god even exists. Which is fine and good and entertaining but I found your approach of just engaging on the assumption that god might even exist and debating what kind of god that would be and with what plans in mind very refreshing.
I'm not christians myself, I just found the approach novel and entertaining
GURL THE TITLE IS FABULOUSLY HILARIOUS I LOVE IT
I thought it was a bit over the top, but boy... Kristen really tells on herself!
I actually feel sorry for them, they made this whole video about how growing up they were basically taught that waiting for marriage would reward them with a great sex life and then had a pretty rude awakening on their wedding night, when surprise! the sex wasnt magically great, bc obviously none of them knew wtf they were doing. Now theyre stuck in relationships with men who never learned how to pleasure a woman and dont even allow themselves to get off on their own.
And of course the conclusion they reach is "I must have done something wrong" instead of "the way I was taught about sex and relationships was wrong", which is kind of hearbreaking.
as an aegosexual in a sexual relationship I just wanted to add, that for some people fantasies and thoughts are a must for achieving an orgasm. I do love my partner, but he is not sexually attractive to me (nobody truly is), so the act of sex itself and his body/presence are not enough. I write this in case there's someone out there who feels the same and doesn't know they might actually be aegosexual :)
This is super frustrating! I was raised mormon. I started masterbating at a very young age. It calmed my stress levels, helped me to sleep, and just brought me overall peace. But I was raised to feel shame around it. It never seemed right to me that something that helped me so much, could be sinful. I've had to deconstruct a lot around sex and sexual pleasure. Luckily I'm raising my children to love themselves and their bodies in a healthy way.
It actually is natural and normal so much so that midwives have observed babies in the womb doing it
It can greatly help with self regulation and help with period cramps as well
It's not always sexual for everyone and even if it is it's your body it's private
Im glad you don't feel shame anymore it's never worth feeling the shame
From The Charge of the Goddess written by Doreen Valiente. This is regarded as a sacred text to Wiccans, and is a beautiful, moving piece of prose. It is frequently recited as part of rituals and festivals, but one line immediately springs to mind...
''... Let Her worship be within the heart that rejoiceth; for behold, all acts of love and pleasure are Her rituals. ...''
Pagans in general have a healthy relationship toward sex. It is not shameful, it is natural, it is a gift of sensual pleasure just the same as the beauty of nature, or the decadence of ice cream, or a piece of music. It honours the Gods when we appreciate their gifts. ''Purity'' culture is a perversion against human nature.
Agreed. I feel as a pagan I celebrate life whereas when I was a child in catholic kindergarten it was all death, repression, fear and suffering.
Honestly I like the theory that all the grown ass "purity pushers" are just trying to overcompensate for having dreams where the Satan and Lucifer are double-teaming them and they love it so much, but then they wake up and think "did god see my dreams?!?! I must stop people from touching themselves!"
That was an interesting thing to read before going to sleep
My new kink/fantasy:
I'd never heard that grateful garbage, before. My older brother has Cerebral Palsy and I remember the church telling us how great it was that God gave us this opportunity to grow. Something about suffering making us stronger.
yeah its some real bullshit. I had ppl tell me I had an abusive childhood "as part of god's plan" and more nonsense
I agree. One of the biggest turn-offs regarding religion in my family was that all the bad things, the plagues, genocides, et cetera are all planned out from the start. If god loved us so much that he made us in his image, why are we allowed to be so constantly abused and diseased and restricted because of our bodies? Don’t even think about our appendix, which we don’t use and can blow up and kill us. I don’t think a perfect god would have that.
Lmao sorry for the rant, I guess I got a little carried away
@@noaccount2494 this and I would always tell them that my past broke me--made me a shell of a person and that it didn't make me stronger so why should I be grateful
Shoutout to my homie Angus from Night in the Woods, a character who doesn’t believe in god while having grown up and lived in a small religious town because he was abused as a child and is not grateful for the experience as he was in no way saved by god. He is also one of the only queer people in that small town, and he and his boyfriend are very cute together.
“I believe in a universe that doesn’t care, and people who do.”
she talks a lot about sex as a beautiful wonderful thing right after telling everyone how her husband can't get her off
missionaries who tried bringing us into their church actually told me that my oldest daughter facing cancer at about 4 yrs old was a test from god, to prove her strength, and to test my faith. i'm just like dude i've never had faith? whats the point of testing something i openly stated i didnt have many times before ever having kids? and almost killing my child is supposed to make me want to be his friend or some shit? how does that work. they tried saying god wants to help me thru my tough times and i'm just like idk i went thru that shit without him. cant get much worse so i think i can handle it alone. they didnt come back anymore lmfao
Definitely down to see u read that book
I don't like these types of people (girl defined, not kiwi)
5:17 As a progressive christian, I absolutely agree lol. I firmly believe God wants us to enjoy sexual stimulation and that it's good and healthy lol. The whole logic of people like Girl Defined makes no flipping sense
It's not just young people rushing into marriage, one of my very Christian aunts has left 6 or 7 marriages now. Rushing into it to not 'live in sin' and then blaming the husband when she leaves. It's sad to see.
to edit the jellybean analogy, its more like someone just gave you jellybeans and was like "do what you want with these" and if you decide to eat some, that was always allowed, it was fun, it was satisfying, and you might eat some more later its all good. And if you decide to give them to someone else to eat and never eat any for yourself then that's fine too but don't force other people to never eat their jellybeans because you didn't eat yours.
We’re at 10k likes now you have to buy the book, read it, and then wash your eyeballs and burn the book :)
i identify as demisexual and the other day I was talking to my friend about a guy who I thought was really pretty (bear with me). another person comes up and says "if you're attracted to this person, you can't be demisexual, you're lying"
my friend looks him dead in the eyes and goes "they're talking about a fictional character, it doesn't count" idk if it does count or not but in case you're curious, we were talking about Kaveh from Genshin Impact
Your not lying He is fine
I moved out of my parents' place 2 weeks ago, it's so nice living in a trans home instead of a transphobic home!
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that's amazing, i'm so happy for you :)
Sinning with God is just the Old Testament
Torah
@@LenaLanaY youre correcting them without even using the right term. the torah covers the first 5 books in judaism-the tanakh is the entirety of the jewish books, and these books are known as the old testament in christianity. both terms are correct
Matthew 19:12 says God prefers same-sex relationships for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven
@@asmodeus304 I knew the Old Testament/Torah relationship. Just didn’t fully understand it all. Just thought all the Old Testament was the Torah(which never made sense to me bc wtf?) you made it make sense lol
@@elijahmalachi45-6dieker8 That is SO not the moral of the eunuch passage XD
I don't think Adam and eve were married
Yep,They weren’t.
@@pathetic-traveller06 ... and they had SEX?!?!?
rushing into marriage for sex is really serving bella swan core
I think you should start every video telling us what's going on with your earrings. They're all... different and interesting. And I can't always tell what they are. Like this time. I'm not sure if they're... vibrators or microphones or if I'm completely missing it.
Girl Defined “God is your spiritual vibrator, and the Holy Spirit is your battery! Jesus is my inebriated uncle!”
can i thank you for always having captions ready when you upload a new video? it’s so helpful and i know it takes a lot of work but i’m glad your videos are always uploaded with captions. more channels should do this
AGREED
Me: *is a sex-replused asexual* yes, yes, totally
speaking of god um I'd love to know your thoughts on a verse in the bible I've been arguing with my dad over about "wife should succumb to the husband" he thinks it mean that they have to no matter what like she's not supposed to say no or some shit like that like she has no say in it once married or some shit? he also keeps bringing up another bible bit about something God said which is "go forth and populate my earth" making both bits connected and that its a woman's job to please the man all the time so he wouldn't like go and cheat on her or some schtick trust me I know this all sounds dumb and stupid but id love to know your thoughts or hell anyone who dares reads the comments thought on this load of BS!
Bro your dad got more baggage than an airport
Well, first off...the earth is now populated. There's no more need for the go forth and populate because it's been achieved. When it was said there were 2 people, now there's billions. Context matters. Also, there were many, many other holy texts that the old men who put together the kj version didn't include because they only wanted the misogynistic parts. Basically, compiled by a bunch of women hating incels who were pretending to be voluntarily celibate.
You're dad has some seriously fucked up thoughts if he doesn't want a partner that actively wants him
I’ve never directly read the Bible (heard verses/descriptions of them) but wasn’t there a hymn or something about a massive infanticide campaign in Israel? I don’t know if he supports that but if he doesn’t he may as well be a farmer with how many cherries he’s picking
The “be fruitful and multiply” verses were said to specific biblical characters. Also, remind him of Abraham and Hagar and how it was pretty clearly shown that the “side chick” treatment she receives is bad. The usage of the term “submit” when referring to how a wife should treat a husband is actually a debated word used, but was also written by Paul, an unmarried man who was not speaking for God in his letter, but was advising a church on a specific issue they were having.
The Cl*toris actually isn't only a small button at the top. Actually she has 4 "wings" and looks a little bit like a weird Pokémon. The wings surround or hug the vag*na and lay under the hoohalips. (I don't know if I would get banned, it I used explicit vocabulary) You may want to look it up, it's really fascinating!!
what? really???????? am i missing those wings bc i swear I don't have them???💀💀
@@froggywithaheart if you have female gen*tals, then I promise you do have those "wings", but they are inside you, so you can't see them.
So, you ever recognised that your lips are swollen down there, when you are aroused? That's the wings. The Cl*t is a cavernous body (I hope that's right, English isn't my first language), just like a penus, that's why it swells.
So, yeah you do have them. Look it up and take a look at anatomical Pictures and your mind goes boom! Fascinating indeed 😁
@@schokoloko2092 oh god! i didn't know this. thank you... I'll look around 💀
@@froggywithaheart no problem. How are you supposed to know this, when nobody tells you? And school doesn't teach you for sure...
It’s quite cool! Sad that school doesn’t teach this.
kristin looks fucking exhausted in this video.. idk, it makes me sad. as much as i fucking hate their brand and messages, i hope she's doing alright :/
really appreciate how all your videos are captioned! i have audio processing issues, so it really helps!!