Hi, Christian here, my favorite bible story is the one about Jesus telling a group of men that if women having bodies causes them and their eyes to sin, they should simply just remove their eyes to solve the problem. Even Jesus himself thinks that people having bodies, especially women, is not sexual.
"women have all these pressures, and body image issues " Yeah totally. "But it's because they're dumb and choose to." No. No. Sweety. No. So close, yet so far. Lol😂
"you make god sound like such a d*ck" are words that should be written on the first page of every holy book because humans really interpret their god in ways that don't sound very godlike
My ideal god is a goddess who treats everyone like her children, moves with grace and only gets upset when the ones she loves are hurt. Also she’d be pansexual
@@LordOfElysium sounds like Wicca lol The truth is, made up archetypes that you invent yourself or no more or less powerful than ancient ones. Do it. Design your own pantheon if that's how you express your spirituality! Not that you need permission, but idk maybe you do. Lots of people do. Lots of people think ancient things inherently have more power. They have more history, more context, more lots of things, but not more power. In physics, power is defined as work over time, a change of energy over time. Therefore power can never be inherent to anything. It will always matter how you use that idea, how you use that energy over time. I hope this opens up some pathways for some folks, because the new world religion really doesn't have any rules, and for a reason. Rules are for mortals.
How tf did I not know that Marilyn Monroe was Jewish when I was raised Jewish and every Jewish adult in my life got off on talking about which famous folks were Jewish
Girl Defined and the opinions they present are terrible, but what I remember them for is how God is grey reached out to them and offered support when the whole internet was bullying them only for them to turn around and call her a "fake Christian" at their conference. Kristen and Bethany aren't just two women with weirdly pushy opinions, they're malicious, backstabbing, and all around awful people.
Yeah, I've heard about it from God is Grey's video on their bitchasses backstabbing Brenda (God is Grey), since Brenda's more of an actual Christian than Kristy and Bethy will ever be.
They talk about the huge, changing, damaging checklist that women must abide by, and their solution is… a different huge, changing, damaging checklist that women must abide by, rather than encouraging destroying the checklist altogether
I absolutely despise when people bring up the same arguments blaming Marilyn that Hollywood started. This idea that she was sex obsessed and a druggie, is so dismissive of things she actually said. She wrote journal/diary entrees talking about how sex was so painful for her and that she hated it. She wrote about how much pain she was always in just going about her day. Its been near proven that she most likely had one of the worst cases of endometriosis of her time. Doctors at the time were largely male and it was so, so, so , so easy to get any pills you wanted in the 50's because the medical field didn't have the knowledge of how harmful and addictive most of them were and are. She suffered abuse at every point of her life. Hollywood in the 50's was even more misogynistic than it is now. Lots of actresses had their measurements on their actors chairs rather than their name. Joe DiMaggio abused her everyday even right in front of other people- which at the time was shocking considering abuse was thought to be a home/private thing. Hollywood, the media, and society twisted her into this sex-crazed, drug addict, bombshell when that wasn't who she really was. Its been 70+ years and she is still being abused every time someone repeats this narrative.
just people going "you should've just made a different choice, it's so easy to just be born to a good, happy family" is just "how do you think being born works?????"
You just have to transcend humanity, overthrow God and then use your newly acquired divine powers to go back in time and make sure you're born to a good family this time. Trivial /s
I’m only 7 minutes in but these two woman who wrote that are the same to shame me for being fat, immodest and dressing alt. like how can you say the beauty standards are a problem and then turn around and hate me for not fitting yours…
26:42 This honestly makes me really worried about them and all their female subscribers. I remember that in one of their videos one of them (I can't remember which of them) asked why she should still be married to her husband if women really deserved happiness. If I'm not mistaken, she tried to use this as an argument as to why women shouldn't search for happiness, because being a traditional, christian wife is apperantly more important than being happy. The bible never said that women deserve to be happy, therefore we shouldn't look for happiness. She literally admitted that she doesn't want to be married to her husband and that "following the bible" isn't what she wants and she didn't even realize. At this point it just looks like they're suffering from Stockholm-Syndrome. It's so sad.
That's disturbing....also yeah women in their eyes aren't allowed to be their own person and seek happiness unless it's attached to a man which is all kinds of messed up.
Yeah that's kind of what turns people away from God when they preach it so heavily that there now making judgements on people in Gods place. I feel like the Bible is mostly a bunch of fables anyways they designed it to trick women into settling for them and throwing there lives away for somebody that doesn't even really like her he just does it because he thinks that's the way things really are because the situation benefits them its very selfish of them to push all this bullshit onto us even in the 1900s they were still chasing us and trying to control us.
@@saturngirl3748 Yup I heavily agree. Most of the rules in the Bible are to control women and give men exceptions no matter how awful their behavior. Women had 1000+ rules to follow to even be considered for heaven but men barely had like 10 and most of it blamed women for Simply existing. "Resist the urge of the devilish temptress" They would literally kill women for being attractive and "seducing" a man into sinning. So many reasons I don't like the Bible and its teachings.
As a Marilyn Monroe fan (because I relate to her life story on such a deep and personal level.) I literally can’t listen to anymore past 16:20. Marilyn is not an example of what not to do. She is an example of how much shit men have gotten away with scot free and how it effects us to this day despite the amount of pushback and change women march for. Is anything, Marilyn should be treated as a Martyr for feminism imho. This got personal fast but that is truly how I feel!
The job that Bethany convinced herself she needed to give up to serve god despite it bringing her joy was FOR THE CHURCH I’m SCREAMING. That must be the purest expression of their religious community’s misogyny I’ve ever seen. There’s no anti-secular bias, there’s no attempt to isolate her from the outside world. It’s literally just women can’t do shit. And then Kristen follows up with a story about how making her own decisions and having an opinion about her own life is wrong Y I K E S.
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have set a goal if she really didn't want to do it she's just having fun and making jokes about how awful it is. If she really doesn't want to continue I'm sure all her followers would understand even if we do surpass the goal.
@@princessofhell4639 oh I know, I'm just saying XD another couple RUclipsrs I follow have shot themselves in the foot because they set a really high bar to reach in order to agree to do more, such as reacting to the 50 Shades franchise, and their audiences like to watch them suffer enough that they will make that goal happen whatever it takes XD but it's true that if they really DID NOT want anything to do with it, they wouldn't set a goal at all. Essentially they did it to drive up engagement in exchange for suffering and it worked
I really appreciate you Savannah, and this video in particular. You're right, don't put yourself in a box! Live your life! The "box" is for when this life is over! For context, I'm a religious, Bible-reading Jewish lady. I don't know for sure what kind of translation these young ladies have been given, but the Bible in the original Hebrew is very much in favor of living authentically, and joyfully. I prefer a more "traditional" lifestyle for myself, but that brings me joy. It's not for everyone. As the young folks say, "you do you." Holiday blessings to all who see this, whatever you celebrate! 🙏❤🏳🌈🏳⚧🕎🎄🕯
"That's not an original thought." I'm afraid that's asking too much from Girl Defined. I suspected Bethany had some sort of ambition... and it's unfortunate that she was made to feel guilty about it. Especially since she's taken that drive and, instead of turning it toward something useful, has decided to grift.
Crap like this is why my dad is stuck in a blizzard right now. Literally we’re in upstate New York right now and my dad is driving up, he has all of our Christmas gifts. And yesterday my mom said “go up through Virginia, it’s longer but you’ll get stuck if you go the other way” and my dad was like “I’m not gonna listen to you, the woman who I’ve been married to for over 20 years and who has much more experience with snow and ice than I, someone who grew up in the south! That’s stupid!” And now he’s stuck in a blizzard.
Hot take, but southerners need to go back to being in pants-shutting fear of snow, since being cocky about driving in conditions one can’t handle is how people get hurt/die. I hope your Christmas goes okay despite everything!
@@RainbowNanaki yea. Probably. I say you need to live up north for at least 2 years before you can ignore someone’s advice about driving in the snow. Also it’s going fine. He’s not dead yet, just stuck in traffic.
Took me till 30 to feel beautiful in my own skin. It's still a fight but wrinkles are inevitable and if a guy doesn't like me, it's not up to me to change that.
Sometimes I think fundie women like Girl Defined are so into the "Christianity vs. 'the culture'" narrative that they completely miss the irony that they're doing the same "the culture" is doing with beauty standards, only from a "Christian perspective"
Idk why but this book gives me the vibe of "ARFID isn't a real eating disorder you're just a picky eater," and I could definitely see them publishing that
@@LordOfElysium Google's search engine has a help center that can help you to delete your search history. I would strongly recommend this for your privacy. You can even specify a specific portion of your history to delete. This can be on the pc/phone, or as associated with your google account. Knowledge is important, and if your parents make you afraid to gain it, do it behind their backs. Also private browsing or incognito mode does not save search history.
@@LordOfElysium It is a eating disorder where you can only eat specific things and other things (for whatever reason, like taste, structure, smell etc) not and it feels like youhave to brake a wall with your bare hands. I think I have it, this isn't fun and I hate it and wish I wasn't that "picky". It feels in some way similar to how you feel with depression (is part of ny BPD) if you have to do something, it is like the hardest thing in the world for you, but others don't see it and think you could easy desite to do/eat it. If I neet to eat/drink something that I can't I get panic and neet much time to motivate me to do it and every bite/swallow is the pure horror.
@@cary9479 this is so fascinating, do you mind discussing it further? What kinds of foods cause this reaction? Are some worse than others? Do you also dislike scents of different kinds? Can you talk more about the sensation you experience, like what is physically happening? I have bulimia, so for me, it's all nausea, and usually because of fatty foods, or because of things not related to the food itself.
Hearing the story of the girls defined forcing themselves to want the "right," things is undeniably sad. At the same time they are horrible people upholding the system that let them down. It's like doublethink trying to hold the resentment for who they are and the pity for how they ended up there in mind concurrently. So yeah, f*** their god! P.S. Good luck Savannah if this one gets 10k too 💜
yeah.. I can totally relate to them as someone who grew up homeschooled in a bubble of church nutjobs, I can see why they believe what they do and pity them, but it also makes me so fucking mad that them perpetuating that weird awful purity culture is going to make more kids go through the pain that I did. I guess for some people it's easier to double down and live miserably than to accept that it's bullshit and grieve the life lost to the patriarchy.
I love how girl define is claiming that the world cares about our appearance well at the exact same time you have Dennis Prager complaining that women don't care about their appearances anymore and that they're not pretty anymore.
they recognize the problem that society pushes unrealistic expectations and standards and that it is detrimental to women's mental health, but then they do the exact same thing. but you know they problem think its ok because they're right
38:18 this is how I feel about god. They made me who I am, they made me trans because they knew I could handle it. My growth was given to me by god and they want me to question it and learn.
As a religious asexual omniromantic enby, I feel you on a very deep level. It's so comforting to find people like you. ^^ Don't stop being you, you're needed.
I almost wonder how they would feel about the analysis of monroe's private life that reads her as a sapphic asexual although I fear they would just use it as another reason why she was supposedly such a "bad person"
Also can we acknowledge how the girls from their friendship group who left might also have left as they were facing abuse ect from staying in that system and they left to have that freedom. Where as for some of the ones who stayed (I said some as even them themselves said they had to stop doing things they liked) might have actually wanted that lifestyle and that upbringing might have been OK for them.
Just look at Dominic Noble - he did a live reading of The Mister by E L James for charity, made a packet but the book is so abysmal that he was suffering in the depths of his soul.
@@keltai83 oh yikes, there's _another_ E L James book? More than just 50 Shades of Ab*se? I don't even want to think about the pain of reading through that. So many poor, misguided souls, reading those books, watching those movies, and thinking that's what BDSM is 😭😖
Savannah's experience and choice to wear a bikini motivated by her own reasons reminds me of an experience I had in high school. I attended a Catholic high school. I observed other girls were wearing makeup. So, I thought I wouldn't be punished for that. I chose to start wearing makeup because I wanted to, and because I found it aesthetically pleasing to me. I was shocked and upset when a girl classmate asked me, "Are you doing it because you want to attract the boys' attention?
10 seconds in and im smiling ear to ear seeing someone grow out their armpit hair like me!! i've been so self conscious about it (even my mom and sis made fun of me) but my roommate and I are in it together but it was super exciting to see you in on it too. love your videos from america!!
Stay strong! My mom never stopped making fun of it until she was no longer in my life. It’s so much better than having constantly sticky and itchy armpits.
Hey, I just wanted to add to the support! Before I came out as trans, I got made fun of by my family a lot for my lack of interest in shaving, which especially hurt since my immediate family only consisted of my mother, aunt, and grandmother. The multiple generations of shame was horrible, and it’s so gross how those closest to us can be the most authoritarian about policing our bodies. Please stay strong, and know that at least a couple randos on the internet are in your corner 💖
@@RainbowNanaki Exactly! The only downside to having body hair (in my case at least) WAS the stigma. I’m so glad so many people my age are finally cool with body hair. It’s rarer for me to know somebody that still shaves their armpits honestly.
And they also have published other books: • "Love Defined: Embracing God's Vision for Lasting Love and Satisfying Relationships" (2018) • "Sex, Purity, and the longings of a Girl's Heart: Discovering the Beauty and Freedom of God-Defined Sexuality" (2019) • "Shine Bright: 60 Days to Becoming a Girl Defined by God" (2021) • "Not Part of the Plan: Trusting God with the Twists and Turns of Your Story" (2021)
as a trans person i’ve got a morbid curiosity for what this gender part is later in the book. like i know it can’t be good but i’m tip toeing the shore line wondering if i wanna jump into the deep ocean
The fact that you’re sacrificing brain cells for Girl Define aka Becky-based Transmisia Central Station, deserves a bravery award. I do hope we get a video on Stray Kids or something relatively wholesome in the future.
@@twiggledowntown3564 I doubt it but I think they said that because she’s already previously made a video about her stray kids tattoos and made it clear she’s a pretty big fan
@Sonny That is genuinely a brilliant nickname to give to both Kristy and Bethy. They both deserved that, since they're the white girl versions of Benilla Shapissro and Matt-child Walsh.
it drives me up the wall that they sit there and pretend like looks aren't valued in the church, sure most of the women dressed modestly but i would watch girls spend hours and hours just doing there hair in all these intricate ways, sure the box is small but they do as much as there "allowed" (i hate that word)
Material like this for Christian women is all about how women are responsible for their sexualization. Material for Christian men is all about how to be supportive of Christian women to aid them in taking responsibility, but making it very clear that it is not the man's job to take control of themselves
34:18 I am asexual and I have been struggling a lot to figure out my desires and boundaries in regards to sex for a long time now, and this whole part about sexuality and the male gaze really hit me it gave me a clue for an answer that I have been searching for ever since I came out. Thank you so much.
what you said about every decision we take being influenced really stood out to me, as it's something i have been aware of but couldn't express for a long time. it's still something i struggle with, trying to force myself to do or not do something based on what would be more "radical" instead of what would make me happy, even though there is no one true way to be radical. i guess what im trying to say is thank you
Having a youtube channel is work outside being a mother, writing a book is work outside being a mother. Why is God supposedly okay with a wife doing those things but not any other occupation ?? Just another hypocrisy defined
Hi! I hope you are having a wonderful day and I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been vegetarian for nearly four months and you were a huge part of it. I’ve wanted to be vegetarian/vegan for a while, but I’m thirteen and the rest of my family are practically carnivores. But, I’ve learned how to cook for myself, and the rest of my family is starting to eat less meat as well. Thank you so much Savannah!!
Awww, that's so amazing. As a seasoned vegetarian auntie I do recommend doing regular blood tests to check whether your body is taking the change well. Other than that I wish I were that brave and productive when I was your age!
I want to make more vegetarian choices as well, but I find that there is still an excess of meat in my house. Are there any delicious vegetarian or vegan options that you recommend? It could be from any culture, but the underlying idea is that it is produced ethically and sustainably.
This makes me so sure that when I get kids I won’t talk about bodies unless in explanation. As long as my kids are healthy I will be happy. I still struggle with how I look even when I know that I am healthy, but I want to do what I can so my kids won’t have to worry about it. Societal norms suck, and I’m gonna ignore them to the best of my abilities
Growing a Christian has definitely messed me up and one of the ways is has is every time I hear: “ if your not happy/comfortable you don’t have to do it” gives me so many red flags because I’ve been taught from a very young age that you don’t need to be happy to be fulfilled and you shouldn’t search for happiness.
Unless you think reading further into the book is going to leave you with PTSD to deal with, do please review further. I am finding it surprisingly illuminating.
I would love to see you cover more of this book because I don’t think I can handle reading it myself without your commentary to keep me sane! Love you 💜💜
34:29 thank you for saying this!! It’s such a horrible confusing thought to pop up, and I’m glad I’m not the only one who deals with it. I’m convinced if I think too long about anything I can talk myself out of it. Because of what you said, everything is somehow dictated by others.
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos as a general rule of logic, something should be assumed as excluded if not mentioned, so if a trans person doesn't identify as a woman, then OP is not doing things for them lol
Subscribed. As a 55 year old cis tomboy who came to much the same decisions as you at your age (but a lot less eloquently) I SO relate to what you're saying and agree with it. I was not feminine and struggled with the ideas that I was expected to follow as a teen in the 80s. I went back and forth before deciding ... I don't like (most) girly stuff and am going to do my own thing. I follow fashion when it suits me, I don't like wearing makeup and I'm a total geek! I occassionally wore a skirt/dress for a special occasion (not any more) but otherwise ... no. I want my boyfriend/husband to be my best friend (and he is and he really appreciates me being a tomboy 😊) I'm pleased I came to these decisions years before the internet but also wish it was around (although in many ways I'm SO glad I wasn't a teen during the internet era!). I SO feel for you young girls now. In so many ways it feels feminism has taken a step backwards since I was a teen. Also ... I really love your hair! 😍
I liked what you said about "if your religion is more free people are more likely to stay", it made me really happy because my parents basically did that for me and my siblings. We talked about everything we believed through a lense of "why does this matter? What does it change?" And I was allowed so many freedoms that my peers weren't and it was glaringly obvious. I'm raised Christian and still am with the faith (though I'm still working out exactly what that looks like for me and my lifestyle) and I was allowed to read fantasy books with magic and play video games of all sorts as long as it was approximately age appropriate. I'm 20 now and my favorite thing to watch is horror game playthroughs and I am deep in the creative writing and art world and my parents are very proud and supportive because they see all that as how God intended me to be. I am very free under my parents guidance and love and understanding, and it makes me want to stick around and figure religion out even though I've experienced a lot of awful people here. It emboldens me to worship the God who created me and not the indoctrination that people try to change me with. God bless everyone who takes the time to read this and I hope you have a lovely and peaceful day! I intend to be like my parents and urge other people to be like that as well.
I am also a diagnosed Autistic and chronically Ill and my parents have been so supportive in learning how to love me with those things in mind. They're not perfect and they have their own struggles as human beings but I'm so proud of them and grateful for everything they do for me. I'm so happy I got to share this here today, it reminded me how fortunate I am as a Christian to be loved as I am and to be taught about God in the way I believe he intended to be known. I hope things get better as people grow up and find their own way, and in a few generations Christianity can become gentle and promote autonomy instead of what it is for most people now. I have hope that more people like me and my family are out there, and that we can all help change how people experience faith and religion.
On this day, I thank God that my parents have no idea what girl defined is, as they would certainly take their word as gospel for raising a teen girl 🙏
5:13 feels so beautifully written in my mind that there’s no way it’s from the same writer XD well anyway I’m not a pro but writing style can’t be inconsistent-then again never read the book soooo
No because I bought this book at like 14 and I still have it I forgot about it until I saw the thumbnail and nearly had a panic attack I WAS LIKE ALL I REMEMBER IS SOME PART ABOUT MARILYN MONROE- I filled out all the little workbook thingys too maybe I should go back and read them for shits and giggles
I love how this girl is going off about how society is telling women that "this is what you're suppose to do" and "this is what you're suppose to look like" and then blaming other women for men manipulating them, and then go onto a story about how a man in her own community told her that "this is what you're suppose to do" and she listened to him. She did the exact same thing that she was complaining about and is not preaching about how happy it made her. I guess pushing expectations onto women is only good when it's Christian men :/ (Except it's almost *always* Christian men)
What’s hilarious to me is that even in the Victorian era people edited their photos to present the desired hour glass body shape (some great videos on RUclips about it, just look up photo editing in the Victorian era you should find them lol)
I'm sick with Influenza A and I have little to no energy. I've been binging Kiwi's videos along with Annamarie, Sam Collins, Elanore Neale, and Bailey Sarian.
I grew up catholic, went to catholic school for 14 years, studying it all along the way as part of my grades and expectations. I'm agnostic now, but I feel like I have a unique insight. I actually feel bad for them too. I've seen kids at my school who were sheltered beyond belief, much like them from what it sounds like. "Not being religious" isn't an option for them, and religion is spoonfed to them. It's not something they can define for themselves, because they've been, well indoctrinated by their family's expectations for them. Not that my family was happy when I told them I'm not catholic. They actually said it was a shame since I know more than any of them random shit about religion and the church and God's teachings, which are so contradictory to the church's teachings. Ultimately, they're kind of brainwashed. Victims of our society and of the church as an institution in capitalist society. I know a girl who was raised very similarly. She's a triplet, got a 1590 on her SAT (1600 is passing, you're not supposed to pass this fucking test), stupidly smart, and stupidly sheltered. Her and her brothers get grounded if they get a B or less. They're expected to be perfect and part of me hopes one day they'll crack and live for themselves for once.
34:19 i relate to this so bad because i am 16 and that's around the age when everything becomes weirdly hyper sexual. It's because of my own hormones of course but outside of it, it's like the age when parents realise "yeah my daughter is growing up so i need to explain to her that she will be viewed sexually by guys and she needs to be careful about all of that stuff" and i mean they're right, women are sexualised left and right. But at the same time it plants a seed (or for me personally it did) that if this is what is meant to happen, if this is how the world is, if this is how society is, if this is how men and women relate to each other in general society, why am *i* not one of the people among my peers who are desired?? Obviously i would hate if i were to be catcalled by random men or guys in my school spread rumours about me but at the same time in the back of my mind it's always THERE like why not ME why is someone ELSE always the desired one when i KNOW THAT ITS ALL COMPLETELY FUCKED including the situation and my own brain and i have blamed myself so SO long for it and it sucks.
I feel you. Be gentle with yourself. You recognize these thoughts as something that is not intrinsically yours. That is your ability to think critcally that will enable you to work through this. For me, the only helpful thing was spending time with myself. Figuring myself out. Getting sure about myself and confident in my on personality and body. Once you can distance yourself from the approval of others you are free to in turn to build your own opinion about other people. You are not an object that is continuously watched from the outside. You are an active participant in your own life that you live solely for yourself and with yourself. At least that is how it should be, of course. But I like to believe that we can get closer to living like that by getting to know ourselves and loving ourselves. You are a person worthy of their own opinion. Be kind to yourself. You already did the work of figuring things out till now. You will get through the rest as well. Just never forget that you are worth it. And you are not your thoughts. I hope this somehow is coherent. I just wanted to let you know that I feel with and for you. It will get better, hang in there.
They push so hard for their way being the only correct way, because if they stop to consider for even one moment that other ways of living might be valid, they'll have to confront the fact that they might be happier with a different life. They're trying to convince themselves as much as they're trying to convince everyone else, because the alternative is too scary.
The no kissing thing is crazy because it wasn't even something anyone in their community told them to do... They just both read a book and decide to do it.
Them blaming women for everything is so not right also what's wrong with being a party girl nothing wrong with it the fact that they don't know that expressing your femininity in different ways not just the trad wife ways is honestly naive way of thinking like 4 year old little girl also they talk about how girls should not be told to fit in a certain box that does not suite their wants but they instead do just that tell women how to live and dragging them down for it is sad like you are not helping women feel better about themselves you make them feel like shit Becky Also models are beautiful they got their rights to express themselves how they want but for themselves not for the male gaze so I feel the same way as you do in this video explaining it well that sometimes models are told what to eat or what not to and everything else in order to appeal more attractive to people instead of accepting more body positively on plus sized models instead they are feed crap by the community that they are not beautiful enough which is upsetting but also heartbreaking and why are we told as women that we need to feel more beautiful for men when we women can look beautifully pretty within ourself for ourself instead.
The part about clothing is so true. I bought a sexy dress when I had a bf but after we broke up I felt weird about wearing it cos I felt like I was doing for male attention and validation
Like any possession, clothing can have a lot of emotional energy invested into it. This kind of sentiment is pretty typical in the context of particularly intimate clothing. I've never figured out how to handle sleepover t-shirts after a breakup, for example. I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that emotional charge, but whether it precludes casual use is a personal decision that doesn't warrant any shame. I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with wanting attention, though. It's very normal to want to feel desired.
3:40 This deadass almost happened to me one day when me and my parents were in the mall, luckily my dad got mad at her and flipped her off but goddamn it sucks that its a real thing that happens in the real world
i’ve seen a million reviews of the book, everytime i forget the specifics of what’s in it and then when i watch another it gets worse
it somehow gets worse with time 😔
Its like a SCP that makes you forget only to make you suffer again
Even just hearing the name of the parts made me lose brain cells
Hey just wanted to say nice profile pic :)
Hi, Christian here, my favorite bible story is the one about Jesus telling a group of men that if women having bodies causes them and their eyes to sin, they should simply just remove their eyes to solve the problem. Even Jesus himself thinks that people having bodies, especially women, is not sexual.
Under-rated parable, for sure. Its commentary applies to so many aspects of modern conservative hatred, too.
Jesus is so cool! Jesus based!
Where can I find this in the bible?
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(I sound like a “alpha” boy)
"women have all these pressures, and body image issues "
Yeah totally.
"But it's because they're dumb and choose to."
No. No. Sweety. No. So close, yet so far. Lol😂
“So close yet so far” reminds me of metallicas Nothing else matters 😂
I keep reading your spelling of “sweetie” as “sweaty” lol
@@one-onessadhalf3393 now I can’t unsee it
@one-onessadhalf3393 pretty sure that's the origin of the use of "sweaty" when dunking on garbo takes
@Ms. Aelanwyr Ilaicos That’s a thing people do? Also that’s not my username
"you make god sound like such a d*ck" are words that should be written on the first page of every holy book because humans really interpret their god in ways that don't sound very godlike
In an almost Lovecraftian way, I don't humans could truly comprehend god/God
My ideal god is a goddess who treats everyone like her children, moves with grace and only gets upset when the ones she loves are hurt.
Also she’d be pansexual
@@LordOfElysiumEvery god is pansexual or aroace until proven otherwise.
@@hanpines3808 you don't think humans are capable of understanding G-d?
@@LordOfElysium sounds like Wicca lol
The truth is, made up archetypes that you invent yourself or no more or less powerful than ancient ones. Do it. Design your own pantheon if that's how you express your spirituality! Not that you need permission, but idk maybe you do. Lots of people do. Lots of people think ancient things inherently have more power. They have more history, more context, more lots of things, but not more power.
In physics, power is defined as work over time, a change of energy over time. Therefore power can never be inherent to anything. It will always matter how you use that idea, how you use that energy over time.
I hope this opens up some pathways for some folks, because the new world religion really doesn't have any rules, and for a reason. Rules are for mortals.
How tf did I not know that Marilyn Monroe was Jewish when I was raised Jewish and every Jewish adult in my life got off on talking about which famous folks were Jewish
Girl Defined and the opinions they present are terrible, but what I remember them for is how God is grey reached out to them and offered support when the whole internet was bullying them only for them to turn around and call her a "fake Christian" at their conference. Kristen and Bethany aren't just two women with weirdly pushy opinions, they're malicious, backstabbing, and all around awful people.
Damn that’s yucky 🤮
This. They get trashed for being awful people, not because of their religion!
@@pansexualdickhaver6878
Yeah, it was awful. By the way, I love your username!
@@randomisonline 💅❤️
Yeah, I've heard about it from God is Grey's video on their bitchasses backstabbing Brenda (God is Grey), since Brenda's more of an actual Christian than Kristy and Bethy will ever be.
They talk about the huge, changing, damaging checklist that women must abide by, and their solution is… a different huge, changing, damaging checklist that women must abide by, rather than encouraging destroying the checklist altogether
I absolutely despise when people bring up the same arguments blaming Marilyn that Hollywood started. This idea that she was sex obsessed and a druggie, is so dismissive of things she actually said. She wrote journal/diary entrees talking about how sex was so painful for her and that she hated it. She wrote about how much pain she was always in just going about her day. Its been near proven that she most likely had one of the worst cases of endometriosis of her time. Doctors at the time were largely male and it was so, so, so , so easy to get any pills you wanted in the 50's because the medical field didn't have the knowledge of how harmful and addictive most of them were and are. She suffered abuse at every point of her life. Hollywood in the 50's was even more misogynistic than it is now. Lots of actresses had their measurements on their actors chairs rather than their name. Joe DiMaggio abused her everyday even right in front of other people- which at the time was shocking considering abuse was thought to be a home/private thing. Hollywood, the media, and society twisted her into this sex-crazed, drug addict, bombshell when that wasn't who she really was. Its been 70+ years and she is still being abused every time someone repeats this narrative.
Also, there were theories that she may have been on the spectrum.
"give this a thousand likes so I get the motivation to read more of this" is such an ADHD mood. Precious dopamine.
just people going "you should've just made a different choice, it's so easy to just be born to a good, happy family" is just "how do you think being born works?????"
You just have to transcend humanity, overthrow God and then use your newly acquired divine powers to go back in time and make sure you're born to a good family this time. Trivial /s
@@Unelith true!!!!
I’m only 7 minutes in but these two woman who wrote that are the same to shame me for being fat, immodest and dressing alt. like how can you say the beauty standards are a problem and then turn around and hate me for not fitting yours…
Denying yourself a harmless thing that would make you happy is a core tenant of Christianity.
26:42 This honestly makes me really worried about them and all their female subscribers. I remember that in one of their videos one of them (I can't remember which of them) asked why she should still be married to her husband if women really deserved happiness. If I'm not mistaken, she tried to use this as an argument as to why women shouldn't search for happiness, because being a traditional, christian wife is apperantly more important than being happy. The bible never said that women deserve to be happy, therefore we shouldn't look for happiness.
She literally admitted that she doesn't want to be married to her husband and that "following the bible" isn't what she wants and she didn't even realize. At this point it just looks like they're suffering from Stockholm-Syndrome. It's so sad.
Oof, who knows whats going on with the both of them and their husbands
That's disturbing....also yeah women in their eyes aren't allowed to be their own person and seek happiness unless it's attached to a man which is all kinds of messed up.
Yeah that's kind of what turns people away from God when they preach it so heavily that there now making judgements on people in Gods place.
I feel like the Bible is mostly a bunch of fables anyways they designed it to trick women into settling for them and throwing there lives away for somebody that doesn't even really like her he just does it because he thinks that's the way things really are because the situation benefits them its very selfish of them to push all this bullshit onto us even in the 1900s they were still chasing us and trying to control us.
@@saturngirl3748 Yup I heavily agree. Most of the rules in the Bible are to control women and give men exceptions no matter how awful their behavior. Women had 1000+ rules to follow to even be considered for heaven but men barely had like 10 and most of it blamed women for Simply existing. "Resist the urge of the devilish temptress"
They would literally kill women for being attractive and "seducing" a man into sinning. So many reasons I don't like the Bible and its teachings.
Oh god. That's scary how she equates not being happy to being married to her husband.
As a Marilyn Monroe fan (because I relate to her life story on such a deep and personal level.)
I literally can’t listen to anymore past 16:20.
Marilyn is not an example of what not to do. She is an example of how much shit men have gotten away with scot free and how it effects us to this day despite the amount of pushback and change women march for.
Is anything, Marilyn should be treated as a Martyr for feminism imho.
This got personal fast but that is truly how I feel!
Fr
Co-signed 💯
The job that Bethany convinced herself she needed to give up to serve god despite it bringing her joy was FOR THE CHURCH I’m SCREAMING. That must be the purest expression of their religious community’s misogyny I’ve ever seen. There’s no anti-secular bias, there’s no attempt to isolate her from the outside world. It’s literally just women can’t do shit.
And then Kristen follows up with a story about how making her own decisions and having an opinion about her own life is wrong Y I K E S.
Never challenge your followers to reach a specific goal to do something you really don't want to do. They will ALWAYS surpass your expectations lol
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have set a goal if she really didn't want to do it she's just having fun and making jokes about how awful it is. If she really doesn't want to continue I'm sure all her followers would understand even if we do surpass the goal.
@@princessofhell4639 oh I know, I'm just saying XD another couple RUclipsrs I follow have shot themselves in the foot because they set a really high bar to reach in order to agree to do more, such as reacting to the 50 Shades franchise, and their audiences like to watch them suffer enough that they will make that goal happen whatever it takes XD but it's true that if they really DID NOT want anything to do with it, they wouldn't set a goal at all. Essentially they did it to drive up engagement in exchange for suffering and it worked
I really appreciate you Savannah, and this video in particular. You're right, don't put yourself in a box! Live your life! The "box" is for when this life is over!
For context, I'm a religious, Bible-reading Jewish lady. I don't know for sure what kind of translation these young ladies have been given, but the Bible in the original Hebrew is very much in favor of living authentically, and joyfully. I prefer a more "traditional" lifestyle for myself, but that brings me joy. It's not for everyone. As the young folks say, "you do you."
Holiday blessings to all who see this, whatever you celebrate!
🙏❤🏳🌈🏳⚧🕎🎄🕯
"That's not an original thought." I'm afraid that's asking too much from Girl Defined.
I suspected Bethany had some sort of ambition... and it's unfortunate that she was made to feel guilty about it. Especially since she's taken that drive and, instead of turning it toward something useful, has decided to grift.
Crap like this is why my dad is stuck in a blizzard right now. Literally we’re in upstate New York right now and my dad is driving up, he has all of our Christmas gifts. And yesterday my mom said “go up through Virginia, it’s longer but you’ll get stuck if you go the other way” and my dad was like “I’m not gonna listen to you, the woman who I’ve been married to for over 20 years and who has much more experience with snow and ice than I, someone who grew up in the south! That’s stupid!” And now he’s stuck in a blizzard.
Ha!
@Thequeerkiwi1 what? What is telegram? Is it Instagram but you did a typo.
Hot take, but southerners need to go back to being in pants-shutting fear of snow, since being cocky about driving in conditions one can’t handle is how people get hurt/die. I hope your Christmas goes okay despite everything!
@@RainbowNanaki yea. Probably. I say you need to live up north for at least 2 years before you can ignore someone’s advice about driving in the snow. Also it’s going fine. He’s not dead yet, just stuck in traffic.
Omg that Marilyn Monroe take came out of nowhere 😭😭 up until then I was like huh this is weirdly okay
Took me till 30 to feel beautiful in my own skin. It's still a fight but wrinkles are inevitable and if a guy doesn't like me, it's not up to me to change that.
Sometimes I think fundie women like Girl Defined are so into the "Christianity vs. 'the culture'" narrative that they completely miss the irony that they're doing the same "the culture" is doing with beauty standards, only from a "Christian perspective"
100% agree with this take
Idk why but this book gives me the vibe of "ARFID isn't a real eating disorder you're just a picky eater," and I could definitely see them publishing that
Waitttt, whats That?
I don’t want my parents to see it in my search history 😅
@@LordOfElysium avoidant/restricted food intake disorder
@@LordOfElysium Google's search engine has a help center that can help you to delete your search history. I would strongly recommend this for your privacy. You can even specify a specific portion of your history to delete. This can be on the pc/phone, or as associated with your google account. Knowledge is important, and if your parents make you afraid to gain it, do it behind their backs.
Also private browsing or incognito mode does not save search history.
@@LordOfElysium It is a eating disorder where you can only eat specific things and other things (for whatever reason, like taste, structure, smell etc) not and it feels like youhave to brake a wall with your bare hands. I think I have it, this isn't fun and I hate it and wish I wasn't that "picky". It feels in some way similar to how you feel with depression (is part of ny BPD) if you have to do something, it is like the hardest thing in the world for you, but others don't see it and think you could easy desite to do/eat it. If I neet to eat/drink something that I can't I get panic and neet much time to motivate me to do it and every bite/swallow is the pure horror.
@@cary9479 this is so fascinating, do you mind discussing it further? What kinds of foods cause this reaction? Are some worse than others? Do you also dislike scents of different kinds?
Can you talk more about the sensation you experience, like what is physically happening? I have bulimia, so for me, it's all nausea, and usually because of fatty foods, or because of things not related to the food itself.
Hearing the story of the girls defined forcing themselves to want the "right," things is undeniably sad. At the same time they are horrible people upholding the system that let them down. It's like doublethink trying to hold the resentment for who they are and the pity for how they ended up there in mind concurrently. So yeah, f*** their god!
P.S. Good luck Savannah if this one gets 10k too 💜
yeah.. I can totally relate to them as someone who grew up homeschooled in a bubble of church nutjobs, I can see why they believe what they do and pity them, but it also makes me so fucking mad that them perpetuating that weird awful purity culture is going to make more kids go through the pain that I did.
I guess for some people it's easier to double down and live miserably than to accept that it's bullshit and grieve the life lost to the patriarchy.
I remember Strange Aeons reading this book, this is gonna be a great video.
I would love to see a collab between these two
but what you don't know is that his real name is strange aeons
@@Magic_Skeleton Who is the he you're referring to? Strange Aeons is a woman.
I love how girl define is claiming that the world cares about our appearance well at the exact same time you have Dennis Prager complaining that women don't care about their appearances anymore and that they're not pretty anymore.
Fascism do be contradictory.
they recognize the problem that society pushes unrealistic expectations and standards and that it is detrimental to women's mental health, but then they do the exact same thing. but you know they problem think its ok because they're right
38:18 this is how I feel about god. They made me who I am, they made me trans because they knew I could handle it. My growth was given to me by god and they want me to question it and learn.
As a religious asexual omniromantic enby, I feel you on a very deep level. It's so comforting to find people like you. ^^ Don't stop being you, you're needed.
Yes and the Jewish faith I've heard supports trans people I believe
God made and loves every one so yes you are needed 💙💙💙🌈🌈🌈
They had all the puzzle pieces and couldn't put them together.
Sadly, this is very common among these fascist-types. They have identified the right problems and then turned to the wrong solutions
I almost wonder how they would feel about the analysis of monroe's private life that reads her as a sapphic asexual although I fear they would just use it as another reason why she was supposedly such a "bad person"
Also can we acknowledge how the girls from their friendship group who left might also have left as they were facing abuse ect from staying in that system and they left to have that freedom. Where as for some of the ones who stayed (I said some as even them themselves said they had to stop doing things they liked) might have actually wanted that lifestyle and that upbringing might have been OK for them.
While it's good that you're getting engagement, I'm so sorry you got to 10k likes. It didn't cost you money, it cost you your soul 👻
it’s a double edged sword really
Just look at Dominic Noble - he did a live reading of The Mister by E L James for charity, made a packet but the book is so abysmal that he was suffering in the depths of his soul.
@@keltai83 but it was so much fun to watch.
@@keltai83 oh yikes, there's _another_ E L James book? More than just 50 Shades of Ab*se? I don't even want to think about the pain of reading through that. So many poor, misguided souls, reading those books, watching those movies, and thinking that's what BDSM is 😭😖
Savannah's experience and choice to wear a bikini motivated by her own reasons reminds me of an experience I had in high school.
I attended a Catholic high school. I observed other girls were wearing makeup. So, I thought I wouldn't be punished for that. I chose to start wearing makeup because I wanted to, and because I found it aesthetically pleasing to me. I was shocked and upset when a girl classmate asked me, "Are you doing it because you want to attract the boys' attention?
10 seconds in and im smiling ear to ear seeing someone grow out their armpit hair like me!! i've been so self conscious about it (even my mom and sis made fun of me) but my roommate and I are in it together but it was super exciting to see you in on it too. love your videos from america!!
Stay strong! My mom never stopped making fun of it until she was no longer in my life. It’s so much better than having constantly sticky and itchy armpits.
@@gracejordan110 thank you 💕💕
Hey, I just wanted to add to the support! Before I came out as trans, I got made fun of by my family a lot for my lack of interest in shaving, which especially hurt since my immediate family only consisted of my mother, aunt, and grandmother. The multiple generations of shame was horrible, and it’s so gross how those closest to us can be the most authoritarian about policing our bodies. Please stay strong, and know that at least a couple randos on the internet are in your corner 💖
@@RainbowNanaki Exactly! The only downside to having body hair (in my case at least) WAS the stigma. I’m so glad so many people my age are finally cool with body hair. It’s rarer for me to know somebody that still shaves their armpits honestly.
@@gracejordan110 i love to hear that. this whole convo gives me hope. thank you again, internet pals!!!!
this book sucked your soul out, I can see it in your eyes, Kiwi......do part 2
nacho cypher?
And they also have published other books:
• "Love Defined: Embracing God's Vision for Lasting Love and Satisfying Relationships" (2018)
• "Sex, Purity, and the longings of a Girl's Heart: Discovering the Beauty and Freedom of God-Defined Sexuality" (2019)
• "Shine Bright: 60 Days to Becoming a Girl Defined by God" (2021)
• "Not Part of the Plan: Trusting God with the Twists and Turns of Your Story" (2021)
Dont give us options to choose
... lol
These all sound like the same book but with different wording, lol
That's a whole lot of yikes 😬
@@diamondgirl698 And they're planning on another book about the "lies" feminism.
You're an absolute madlad for going through with this
as a trans person i’ve got a morbid curiosity for what this gender part is later in the book. like i know it can’t be good but i’m tip toeing the shore line wondering if i wanna jump into the deep ocean
The fact that you’re sacrificing brain cells for Girl Define aka Becky-based Transmisia Central Station, deserves a bravery award.
I do hope we get a video on Stray Kids or something relatively wholesome in the future.
@@sonny6837 Lmao why is that so accurate 😂
@Sonny you're 200% right and it hurts
Did she say she was going to do a Stray Kids video?
@@twiggledowntown3564 I doubt it but I think they said that because she’s already previously made a video about her stray kids tattoos and made it clear she’s a pretty big fan
@Sonny
That is genuinely a brilliant nickname to give to both Kristy and Bethy. They both deserved that, since they're the white girl versions of Benilla Shapissro and Matt-child Walsh.
it drives me up the wall that they sit there and pretend like looks aren't valued in the church, sure most of the women dressed modestly but i would watch girls spend hours and hours just doing there hair in all these intricate ways, sure the box is small but they do as much as there "allowed" (i hate that word)
I'm glad that your presence is my present, youre so pretty ong
Material like this for Christian women is all about how women are responsible for their sexualization.
Material for Christian men is all about how to be supportive of Christian women to aid them in taking responsibility, but making it very clear that it is not the man's job to take control of themselves
she got married at 16!! that is a turning point if I've ever heard of one.
34:18 I am asexual and I have been struggling a lot to figure out my desires and boundaries in regards to sex for a long time now, and this whole part about sexuality and the male gaze really hit me it gave me a clue for an answer that I have been searching for ever since I came out. Thank you so much.
Those are choppy waters to navigate, to be sure. I hope you figure out the best course forward for you ^__^
This is like having the target directly in front of your face, and then turning 180 and shooting your arrow in the other direction.
what you said about every decision we take being influenced really stood out to me, as it's something i have been aware of but couldn't express for a long time. it's still something i struggle with, trying to force myself to do or not do something based on what would be more "radical" instead of what would make me happy, even though there is no one true way to be radical. i guess what im trying to say is thank you
Having a youtube channel is work outside being a mother, writing a book is work outside being a mother. Why is God supposedly okay with a wife doing those things but not any other occupation ?? Just another hypocrisy defined
Watching this video while having the flu is truly a trip and not a good trip.
Hi! I hope you are having a wonderful day and I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been vegetarian for nearly four months and you were a huge part of it. I’ve wanted to be vegetarian/vegan for a while, but I’m thirteen and the rest of my family are practically carnivores. But, I’ve learned how to cook for myself, and the rest of my family is starting to eat less meat as well. Thank you so much Savannah!!
Awww, that's so amazing. As a seasoned vegetarian auntie I do recommend doing regular blood tests to check whether your body is taking the change well. Other than that I wish I were that brave and productive when I was your age!
I'm a year older than you and if you want to, I suggest making pasta, sandwiches or pizza as a first meal.
I want to make more vegetarian choices as well, but I find that there is still an excess of meat in my house. Are there any delicious vegetarian or vegan options that you recommend? It could be from any culture, but the underlying idea is that it is produced ethically and sustainably.
Congratulations!!! You're nailing this
Have you tried making indian cuisine btw?
Alot of vegetarian/vegan recipes there! maybe it can help you with your journey
i don't understand how they fall face first into the point, and still miss it 🤦🏻♀️
This makes me so sure that when I get kids I won’t talk about bodies unless in explanation. As long as my kids are healthy I will be happy. I still struggle with how I look even when I know that I am healthy, but I want to do what I can so my kids won’t have to worry about it. Societal norms suck, and I’m gonna ignore them to the best of my abilities
Growing a Christian has definitely messed me up and one of the ways is has is every time I hear:
“ if your not happy/comfortable you don’t have to do it” gives me so many red flags because I’ve been taught from a very young age that you don’t need to be happy to be fulfilled and you shouldn’t search for happiness.
Unless you think reading further into the book is going to leave you with PTSD to deal with, do please review further.
I am finding it surprisingly illuminating.
I would love to see you cover more of this book because I don’t think I can handle reading it myself without your commentary to keep me sane! Love you 💜💜
34:29 thank you for saying this!! It’s such a horrible confusing thought to pop up, and I’m glad I’m not the only one who deals with it.
I’m convinced if I think too long about anything I can talk myself out of it. Because of what you said, everything is somehow dictated by others.
I only do things for the female gays, not the male gays. (Sorry)
brilliant
as a male gay i forgive you
So...how does this break down for trans gays, exactly? 🤔
Took me a bit, then I laughed 😂
Well done
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos as a general rule of logic, something should be assumed as excluded if not mentioned, so if a trans person doesn't identify as a woman, then OP is not doing things for them lol
Subscribed. As a 55 year old cis tomboy who came to much the same decisions as you at your age (but a lot less eloquently) I SO relate to what you're saying and agree with it. I was not feminine and struggled with the ideas that I was expected to follow as a teen in the 80s. I went back and forth before deciding ... I don't like (most) girly stuff and am going to do my own thing. I follow fashion when it suits me, I don't like wearing makeup and I'm a total geek! I occassionally wore a skirt/dress for a special occasion (not any more) but otherwise ... no. I want my boyfriend/husband to be my best friend (and he is and he really appreciates me being a tomboy 😊) I'm pleased I came to these decisions years before the internet but also wish it was around (although in many ways I'm SO glad I wasn't a teen during the internet era!). I SO feel for you young girls now. In so many ways it feels feminism has taken a step backwards since I was a teen.
Also ... I really love your hair! 😍
My heart feels so full listening to you speak, you make me feel very empowered.
Thank you for sharing yourself with us.
I liked what you said about "if your religion is more free people are more likely to stay", it made me really happy because my parents basically did that for me and my siblings. We talked about everything we believed through a lense of "why does this matter? What does it change?" And I was allowed so many freedoms that my peers weren't and it was glaringly obvious. I'm raised Christian and still am with the faith (though I'm still working out exactly what that looks like for me and my lifestyle) and I was allowed to read fantasy books with magic and play video games of all sorts as long as it was approximately age appropriate. I'm 20 now and my favorite thing to watch is horror game playthroughs and I am deep in the creative writing and art world and my parents are very proud and supportive because they see all that as how God intended me to be. I am very free under my parents guidance and love and understanding, and it makes me want to stick around and figure religion out even though I've experienced a lot of awful people here. It emboldens me to worship the God who created me and not the indoctrination that people try to change me with. God bless everyone who takes the time to read this and I hope you have a lovely and peaceful day! I intend to be like my parents and urge other people to be like that as well.
I am also a diagnosed Autistic and chronically Ill and my parents have been so supportive in learning how to love me with those things in mind. They're not perfect and they have their own struggles as human beings but I'm so proud of them and grateful for everything they do for me. I'm so happy I got to share this here today, it reminded me how fortunate I am as a Christian to be loved as I am and to be taught about God in the way I believe he intended to be known. I hope things get better as people grow up and find their own way, and in a few generations Christianity can become gentle and promote autonomy instead of what it is for most people now. I have hope that more people like me and my family are out there, and that we can all help change how people experience faith and religion.
I like the part where you said fuck god. that was pretty metal
"That's what we watch the good place for"
"2 dimensional house objects"
34:45 validating me so much that other people get this struggle - thank you !
Ahhh! Patron of the day! My heart esplode.
I love your commentary on this. So sad for Kristen and Bethany honestly.
I'm so disappointed. the three pillars are synonyms. freedom, freedom, and freedom. come on girls I was expecting three things!
On this day, I thank God that my parents have no idea what girl defined is, as they would certainly take their word as gospel for raising a teen girl 🙏
5:13 feels so beautifully written in my mind that there’s no way it’s from the same writer XD
well anyway I’m not a pro but writing style can’t be inconsistent-then again never read the book soooo
Love your intro savannah great that they didn't get anything i would imagine that is a book is filled with toxic information always love your videos
your videos are so comforting and cozy. it feels like i'm listening to a good friend rant about something they're passionate about (/pos)
No because I bought this book at like 14 and I still have it I forgot about it until I saw the thumbnail and nearly had a panic attack I WAS LIKE ALL I REMEMBER IS SOME PART ABOUT MARILYN MONROE- I filled out all the little workbook thingys too maybe I should go back and read them for shits and giggles
BURN. THE. BOOK. AFTER.
Genuinely and truly, from the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU for pointing out their antisemitism against Marylin
Part of me hopes they’ll see this and rethink their values and what they’re doing… but I know that they won’t and that makes me really sad
I love how this girl is going off about how society is telling women that "this is what you're suppose to do" and "this is what you're suppose to look like" and then blaming other women for men manipulating them, and then go onto a story about how a man in her own community told her that "this is what you're suppose to do" and she listened to him. She did the exact same thing that she was complaining about and is not preaching about how happy it made her. I guess pushing expectations onto women is only good when it's Christian men :/ (Except it's almost *always* Christian men)
you’re one of the people I’ve ever seen talk about the fact that marilyn monroe was jewish, even momentarily, and it makes me so happy
What’s hilarious to me is that even in the Victorian era people edited their photos to present the desired hour glass body shape (some great videos on RUclips about it, just look up photo editing in the Victorian era you should find them lol)
I'm sick with Influenza A and I have little to no energy. I've been binging Kiwi's videos along with Annamarie, Sam Collins, Elanore Neale, and Bailey Sarian.
I always enjoy seeing you shred girl defined.
the fact that she also pointed out the positives... that means she's fair
@@m.z1256yes
31:14 these women need to listen to (g)I-dle’s come back
oh, Absolutely.
29:15 because that sounds hell? Who would willingly want someone else to control them?? Play them like a game?? Keep them like a pet.
I grew up catholic, went to catholic school for 14 years, studying it all along the way as part of my grades and expectations. I'm agnostic now, but I feel like I have a unique insight. I actually feel bad for them too. I've seen kids at my school who were sheltered beyond belief, much like them from what it sounds like. "Not being religious" isn't an option for them, and religion is spoonfed to them. It's not something they can define for themselves, because they've been, well indoctrinated by their family's expectations for them. Not that my family was happy when I told them I'm not catholic. They actually said it was a shame since I know more than any of them random shit about religion and the church and God's teachings, which are so contradictory to the church's teachings. Ultimately, they're kind of brainwashed. Victims of our society and of the church as an institution in capitalist society. I know a girl who was raised very similarly. She's a triplet, got a 1590 on her SAT (1600 is passing, you're not supposed to pass this fucking test), stupidly smart, and stupidly sheltered. Her and her brothers get grounded if they get a B or less. They're expected to be perfect and part of me hopes one day they'll crack and live for themselves for once.
Thank you so much for not being only on one side and talking about both sides
Fuck yeah for not giving them money!
Omg the rainbow tips are AMAZING 🤩
I didn't even see the video but I KNOW I will need a second part
it's a great intro! your presence is a present ^^
34:19 i relate to this so bad because i am 16 and that's around the age when everything becomes weirdly hyper sexual. It's because of my own hormones of course but outside of it, it's like the age when parents realise "yeah my daughter is growing up so i need to explain to her that she will be viewed sexually by guys and she needs to be careful about all of that stuff" and i mean they're right, women are sexualised left and right. But at the same time it plants a seed (or for me personally it did) that if this is what is meant to happen, if this is how the world is, if this is how society is, if this is how men and women relate to each other in general society, why am *i* not one of the people among my peers who are desired?? Obviously i would hate if i were to be catcalled by random men or guys in my school spread rumours about me but at the same time in the back of my mind it's always THERE like why not ME why is someone ELSE always the desired one when i KNOW THAT ITS ALL COMPLETELY FUCKED including the situation and my own brain and i have blamed myself so SO long for it and it sucks.
I feel you. Be gentle with yourself. You recognize these thoughts as something that is not intrinsically yours. That is your ability to think critcally that will enable you to work through this.
For me, the only helpful thing was spending time with myself. Figuring myself out. Getting sure about myself and confident in my on personality and body. Once you can distance yourself from the approval of others you are free to in turn to build your own opinion about other people.
You are not an object that is continuously watched from the outside. You are an active participant in your own life that you live solely for yourself and with yourself. At least that is how it should be, of course. But I like to believe that we can get closer to living like that by getting to know ourselves and loving ourselves.
You are a person worthy of their own opinion. Be kind to yourself. You already did the work of figuring things out till now. You will get through the rest as well. Just never forget that you are worth it. And you are not your thoughts.
I hope this somehow is coherent. I just wanted to let you know that I feel with and for you. It will get better, hang in there.
i definitely thought this was gonna be about the whole book given how long the video is jfc lol
They push so hard for their way being the only correct way, because if they stop to consider for even one moment that other ways of living might be valid, they'll have to confront the fact that they might be happier with a different life. They're trying to convince themselves as much as they're trying to convince everyone else, because the alternative is too scary.
Love I’m so proud of you! You look so beautiful and happy I hope everything is well with you! Happy holidays
The no kissing thing is crazy because it wasn't even something anyone in their community told them to do... They just both read a book and decide to do it.
9:09 I SWEAR I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GIRL DEFINED GIRLS AND I WAS SO CONFUSED
I've been waiting for this video!
Them blaming women for everything is so not right also what's wrong with being a party girl nothing wrong with it the fact that they don't know that expressing your femininity in different ways not just the trad wife ways is honestly naive way of thinking like 4 year old little girl also they talk about how girls should not be told to fit in a certain box that does not suite their wants but they instead do just that tell women how to live and dragging them down for it is sad like you are not helping women feel better about themselves you make them feel like shit Becky
Also models are beautiful they got their rights to express themselves how they want but for themselves not for the male gaze so I feel the same way as you do in this video explaining it well that sometimes models are told what to eat or what not to and everything else in order to appeal more attractive to people instead of accepting more body positively on plus sized models instead they are feed crap by the community that they are not beautiful enough which is upsetting but also heartbreaking and why are we told as women that we need to feel more beautiful for men when we women can look beautifully pretty within ourself for ourself instead.
The part about clothing is so true. I bought a sexy dress when I had a bf but after we broke up I felt weird about wearing it cos I felt like I was doing for male attention and validation
Like any possession, clothing can have a lot of emotional energy invested into it. This kind of sentiment is pretty typical in the context of particularly intimate clothing. I've never figured out how to handle sleepover t-shirts after a breakup, for example. I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that emotional charge, but whether it precludes casual use is a personal decision that doesn't warrant any shame.
I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with wanting attention, though. It's very normal to want to feel desired.
Your discussion of body image and the sexualization of bodies is spot on. Thank you so much for this video
doing my duty for the algorithm. 🫡🫡love your videos!!
Holy baroinkil Batgirl! A 41 minute video by the queer kiwi? This IS a Christmas gift!
3:40 This deadass almost happened to me one day when me and my parents were in the mall, luckily my dad got mad at her and flipped her off but goddamn it sucks that its a real thing that happens in the real world
We need a short burning the book after you finish reading it