the thing I find most funny is they’ll criticise the women who say they want taller or richer dudes but when a woman says “it doesn’t really matter” they say she’s lying like wtf do you want them to say bro
Confirmation bias, they want to see and hear what they already believe, and if someone contradicts that, they need to try and twist the reality to fit what they want to believe.
@@tommyferguson4356 Youre wrong, I'm sure they would want women to say how big and strong and masculine they are, and that they want to have sex with them. Also, "here is the sandwich I made for you, would you like a beer too?".
Agreed I was just talking to a dude like that too maybe he was one of his little followers. He was mad that women were bashing men on there own platforms but men build careers out of bashing women for things they can't control too and some how that's not a big deal. They never want to take any accountability of there own and those pick mes that go on there shows and enable these incels are even worse because they don't realize there being brainwashed. If you really want to hate people watch just five minutes of this guys show. They really give a bad name to both men and women combined when you think about it. They shouldn't be the role models in our society because there constantly at war with the opposite gender.
I am a cis man, my two best friends are cis women, and I can promise you, on my life and with a gun to my head, I have absolutely zero sexual attraction to either of them. We have a great time hanging out and talking about shared interests, books and movies, and so on. Men who think it is impossible for a man and a woman to be friends without having sex are gross.
See that’s also a thing: even if you had sexual attraction to any of them, you can not act on it. A person can be friends with someone who they find attractive and not immediately jump their bones. Or at least we can be friendly. These misogynistic men dont seem to realize that men can have self-control and respect towards women (and vv.)
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 mhm! I know and are friends with lots of people who I find attractive on many levels, but I can never see us being together as partners because not everyone will make great partners even if you make great friends
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 Exactly there have been some friends of mine that I’ve liked but figured they didn’t feel the same. I was able to be happy being their friend. Some of them the platonic feelings grow more and the romantic ones go away bc the platonic feelings became so much stronger. I even have some friends who have liked each other and confessed but the feelings weren’t mutual but they still stayed great friends.
The fact that he thinks he can't be friends with someone unless he "gains" something out of it is soo telling and if his "friends" had an IQ above zero, they'd realize hes probably using them.
@@kaihiroku8495 either that or he’s mimicking sociopathic traits to try and make himself feel better (which is an actual thing people do it’s concerning)
If a woman in a relationship isn’t allowed to cheat and single mistresses are “low value” harlets with high body counts and therefore undesirable to a high value male, then who are all these men cheating with or even tempted by? Other men?
Honestly it all comes down to the Madonna/whore dichotomy. There are high-class (usually financially affluent) women who are demure, submissive, and preserve their virtue to be shared with only the one man they marry, and there are low-class (often poor) harlots who are only good for what they can offer men sexually. For men who think like that, they see women as objects who only exist to serve their interests in some way, so it makes sense that that there are women who they marry and women that the have affairs with.
That’s exactly what I find so weird about this stuff. Cuz these guys always talk about wanting to date and have sex with girls, but they only ever want inexperienced virgin girls. And then they want to be able to cheat whenever. But they also think the more sex a woman has, the less valuable they are. And that women should concern themselves with marriage and kids and have lower standards. Their weird requests only work if there’s two groups of women. Sex dolls and baby machines/maids. And they respect neither. So like…. It’s gross. It’s hypocritical and weird and so so groooooooss 😂
"If you don't care about income or height, why are you single?" He is so close to learning that more than just those two qualities are relevant when it comes to two people spending time together, much less building a shared life. He was just about there.
They are projecting, because they only care about surface level things like that in a woman, they can’t convince of any other reason to date a woman other than for her appearance and sexuality, so it must be the same for women but since they can’t have “wHoRes” and “WhOrEs” are bad on principle , they must look for something else, and that thing happens to be money . That’s also why they can’t think of men and women becoming friends, because they only view women as sex objects that only care about money and height.
Not quite: Notice the "single" part? They also think that women shouldn't have standards and shouldn't enjoy single life (free from responsibilities to the family, and to boys and men around them) so they should always be osme guy's property.
Yeah, I would be so furious, I'd want to do that. If I feel threatened I might genuinely do that impulsively. If I am to have a discussion, there must be an agreement to keep your voice from going too loud, and listen to eachother's sentences. I hate being talked over and accidently interrupting someone else. I have had discussions in the comment section of RUclips and been fine, because one can write all they need to try and get their point across before posting.
A lot of the times if they do say something back to them or if they try to call them out. They literally get kicked off the stream lmao. There’s a couch for people who “interrupt” fresh and fit. Idk the video but there’s a clip of him absolutely throwing a fit over a girl just trying to have a conversation with him
It's so funny when "men " like this say " I'm the provider, I don't want my girl working or having a life outside of me" and then their girl asks for money aka what they said they're gonna provide and the girl is suddenly " a gold digger that only wants my money! >:E " lol
Aaaaand from what I see only guys that be working minimum wage jobs care 🤡 never have I EVER even heard about a millionaire complaining about gold diggers
Exactly. They're like "Women shouldn't have jobs, men should provide for them" and then the woman is like can you buy me this thing and the guy is like "ALL WOMEN CARE ABOUT IS MONEY" Like, sir, you won't let her get her own money. The logic is where?
@@dolphinbanana3053 no I still get physically assaulted, and get treated like crap, as a guy. The grass ain’t greener, everyone you meet is fighting a war you know nothing about, everyone has struggles unless you’re a trust fund baby, or the son of a millionaire
as a cis man, I REALLY love the fact that I get to decide when I interact with potential partners. Seriously. It's such a privilege. If I was a woman, I don't even know if I'd ever leave my house on account of all those dudes hitting on me 👀
Lol, they made up the game they are playing, the women aren't even playing it and those men still lose. Cis-het kingbabies couldn't be any more pathetic.
I mean. That doesn't even have to be love, or even liking. Just acknowledging that they are people, and not be like evil manipulators, but also incredibly stupid and manipulators.
You remind me of when we were watching a show about Algir I think, but somewhere where it is legal for men to have four wives, but already existing wives need to give you permission. And he was like “how are you okay with that, that’s not equality “ and I was like “honey from my few decades on earth i cant find four men to like like that, but i’d gladly have three co-wives 😂Cause women are usually cool to hang out with. Not many men that are as cool as you. Already too lucky too meet you” and he was like “hmmmm i guess” Like. Sweety. Patriarchy ate out your brains. Most of you are barely functional without a woman. Why would any woman want more of that? Also being so incapable of life yet having such huge egos. Nobody likes that. Like these men in these podcasts. They’re just so stupid, what would you even talk about with them? I don’t see any if them being capable of basic humour (a thing women actually find sexy)
For real. Like I'm aroace-spec and I do consider myself into women (as much as I can be into *any*one) but like wow. It's super clear that they only view women as sex objects and not people that you can genuinely like for their personality.
If you think that makes those men look bad, I'm a LITERAL MISANTHROPE (which means I hate humans in-general), BUT unlike the incels running the podcast, I am not misogynistic IN THE SLIGHTEST!!!! HOW BAD CAN PEOPLE BE WHEN THEY HATE ALL WOMEN, WHEREAS A PERSON WHO HATES MOST OF HUMANITY DOESN'T?!?!?!??! That is so crazy to me... Also, hi fellow ace!
When I was twelve, boys my age rarely talked to girls, but plenty of grown men hit on me in public. That is not abundance in relationships! You have to be insane to think that.
Yeah that's an abundance in sexual harassment and it's not something to be desired and it's certainly not "Women living on easy mode". Yeah it's so easy to not want to go outside for fear of getting kidnapped by some sex craved lunatic. So easy. Level 1 difficulty.
It's not easymode to have a car full of college boys demanded my mother throw me in their trunk in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I was like 12 and petrified.
Same guys that get mad that if I'd build a guy he'd be tall fit and have money, say they want a perfect hourglass figure housewife. Neither are likely which is why you go for someone who likes you back
Hourglass figure, barely any weight, gorgeous enough to be a model, (possibly) makes a good income, and is also happy cooking, cleaning, and having sex whenever you are up for it, oh and will let you have sex with others while being faithful to you. Thats the kind of standards these kind of men have. But women are the shallow ones.
9:13 someone finally said it! The whole "women can't do what men do" thing has ALWAYS bothered me because I know for a fact that rule is bullshit because I've seen FAR too many exceptions to the rule!
Thank you for being a cool guy 💗 There are so many exceptions to every generalized statement, and considering how different lifestyles people live, generalizations just tend to be flat out inaccurate
Also why is there even a contest? Like who is keeping score anyway? For men to always be trying to think of things they can do that a woman can't really screams to me how insecure they are in their own value as an individual and need to rely on their (usually biological) gender to have a one up over women and/or other people to feel special. It's one thing to genuinely feel insecure in your life and that you might be worthless. But if you have to bully other people, let alone a specific group of people to feel better about yourself, you really ain't shit afterall
Just wanted to let you know that I admire your courage to go through all these podcasts of misogynistic men. I'm getting sick just by listening to the few video extracts you're showing us. I can't even imagine listening to an entire podcast episode without throwing my phone out of the window.
Not to mention the subscribers from these manosphere podcasts that attack anyone who speaks out about this kind of content, especially if they're women speaking out.
@@lunaraynwolf7036 Yep. The amounts of times I got dogpiled by Tate worshippers for saying he should have never had access to martial arts because he is going to use it not for its intended purpose (fair competition and self defence) but to abuse people is staggering.
what I can’t stand is that guy saying it’s okay for men to cheat but not women. it’s sexism plain and simple. beyond that, it’s him moralising. there is no such thing as objective morality, it’s all based on our personal values, and his values are clearly biased towards men, which according to my own values is wrong. we should not hold this double standard for men vs women, we’re not *that* different.
It's a petty premise formulated around a fragile ego foundation. Not just misogynistic in nature. Men like this have the belief that when men cheat, it is only sexual. However, when a woman cheats, it's based on emotions. The man cannot fathom or comprehend that his lover would fall for another, that would mean he failed as a man, leaving him with a wounded ego. Promoting this one sided gender boon as a biological imperative would allow men to sleep around unimpeded and without the fear of their girlfriends/wives doing the same. Leaving their paper thin egos intact.
The thing about power imbalance in consensual relationships is that every party actually does have equal power. A person consents to power play can always take away the consent and regain their power if they are not comfortable. Every healthy relationship, including ones that include power play, has equal power and consent.
In like BDSM/kink, yeah, but that's a power imbalance that you voluntarily enter into; there's a societal, implicit power imbalance in "normal" het relationships that's very difficult to opt out of and most people don't even seem to notice it's there.
@@Mossy-KatLike conservative relationships, there are tons of power imbalance without consent, women are expected to fullfil all their partners desires, even if it's something that they have aversion, and most conservatives don't see that, they don't stop to think about why it's required from conservative women to be submissive, they say that it's for women protection, but I have my doubts, there are a lot of sex abuse within the conservative communit.
This kills me because when I started dating my husband, he was jobless and broke. And he still worked really hard to earn money. And there was half a year where he stopped working at all to get some education and he took over almost all of the housework And I am scared one day our children will see something like this and believe it and basically disrespect their wonderful father
I'd say try not to worry about it. Most of the time children are taught that sorta stuff so as long as you've taught them that being broke ect is nothing to be ashamed of they should hopefully see past videos like this.
Fresh and fit needs to go bye bye soon. Its scary the amount of men they’ve convinced that woman are objects and not real human beings like everyone else
@@shanks8192 dude they dont even have to say “women are objects” to say that. Just listen to how they craft their words to say that. They always indirectly point to it. Not hard to pick up on. In fact they have been pretty direct on it a few times
The thing I've noticed about these guys is that the reason they're finding women who are only into hight and money is cuz thats the only thing they bring to the table. Like they never talk about hobbies, interests, pets, films, sence of humour. You know, stuff that you can bond over. If they only say "I'm tall and rich" then the only women who will want to be with them are women who are after hight and money. They just suck at advertising themselves.
And also because if they're looking for women who are interested in a more traditional gender role based relationship then surprise, surprise, they're likely to find those women also have a more traditional priorities list for the kind of partners they're into. They're literally saying it's only natural for them to want that kind of relationship and women that fit more traditional values but belittling any women who are interested in the corresponding version of said relationship, it just makes no sense!
The same guys who say "women have their value up front " will also say women are letting themselves go when they stop doing their nails, skin, fake tan, hair, make up, gain an ounce of weight, or go for more comfortable clothing style. Don't even mention how they treat ugly and fat women.
@@emmao6578 little does he know how much it scares little girls who are not even 12. It’s so sad that so many men think that catcalling is not blatant disrespect
It's creepy to me to thinl about how i was cat called and hit on by men way more when i was 13. I am a non binary afab person by the way but my transition is recent so.. Iugh
Not to overstep or assume or anything, but as a fellow nb afab, please be prepared for the cat calls to change in a nasty direction. I was not prepared and at seventeen it came as such a shock to me when I was targeted *because* I was trans Again, I don't mean to say that this is 100% gonna happen to you, but please be prepared. The dangers haven't reduced, they've changed, except this time it's twice as painful because they want to take away your autonomy and undermine your gender identity
I'm glad to have arrived early in this freshly baked episode of "Oh god what in the hell is wrong with these men please someone stop them for heavens sake-", it's always a blast to see these.
I think one of the biggest issues that these men face is their inability to have a relationship that is not about extracting something from the other person. The idea of a friendship needing to be "useful" to begin with suggests that they also think about men this way, they just don't expect sex specifically. Hence why they end up in these stupid circlejerks instead of diversifying who they talk to and what perspectives they see.
Yea, they see relationships as transactional and wonder why they've never had a meaningful one. Until they turn their empathy back on, that's not going to happen.
It's honestly just sad that these men never learned about women, and relationships, and just shows the lack of care and education on these topics. It's obvious these mens parents raised them in this belief, and that they didn't hear other perspectives until they were so stuck in this idea that they couldn't change their mind, which is terrible, and I can't see them actually getting anywhere in life, as the world is getting increasingly more open and accepting of new ideas, and misogyny is being called out more and more.
I love that they had to push the answers they wanted out too. The women were flat out saying that looks and money were shallow to care about. For the record, I'm demi and barely even care about looks. But yeah, sure, I would also love to date someone who is rich so I wouldn't have to work a job I hate and could work on my hobbies and take the time to work on my health and find a job that I liked. Also, how high would many straight men's answers be if you asked for their "dream woman"?
Your point about being hit on not being a positive is so true and very well put! Personally, as an ace, being hit on and groped and taunted has been nothing but a long line of horrors
3:14 hate to break it to every man ever, but the only acceptable answer is Howl Pendragon. He is the standard, he is the only man I'd ever consider dating especially considering the fact that I'm a lesbian.
As a fictosexual asexual, I agree. Anime version and book version are equally fantastic. Though currently my autistic obsession is making me cheat on him with Zack Foster from Angels of Death. My fantasy attraction type can pretty much only be classified as "chaotic."
No. It’s Sexism. You’re blaming women for men’s attitudes. That’s victim blaming. You’re acting like it couldn’t be you. All privileged people have some form of prejudice. 97% of us females have been sexually victimized by a male and it’s usually by age 11, when we start puberty and they’re usually 25+ year old adults. That’s predatory. The Patriarchy has normalized hetero male pedophilia. I’ve been through much worse than rejection and I’m still kind. Rejection is something that everyone experiences. I’ve experienced it. There’s plenty of men that act like this while being attractive and abusing and raping lots of us women, with their victims being too brainwashed or scared to say no. The majority of diagnosed narcissists are men. Men have abused me in many ways. Fellow women have harmed me much less, but, both still traumatized me, though. Every human was created by a female, both males and fellow females. Misogynists are ungrateful.
Yeah, but you know, they say women are the emotional ones and we're snowflakes. These guys turned vilains after multiple people just said no thank you 😂
Its strange that these guys don't understand the idea of being friends with a woman who you find attractive. You can find them attractive and just not try to bang them, that is a thing that exists
A lot of these videos that I've seen have girls whose first language isn't English and they treat them like they're thick, even though they probably only know one language and have a loose grasp of that honestly.
I feel like these guys are somehow missing the simple fact that women are, you know, people. And people should be treated with respect and empathy. Not sure how that is such a difficult concept for them to grasp. Also I am so sorry to hear about QK's PTSD getting triggered and hope she does something to relax and take her mind off things
Savanna, your videos are a blessing. Even when talking about frustrating topics, you take me out of my dark places, at least for a little while. I had my first confrontation with a transphobe that wasn't family for the first time, and because I didn’t expect it from that person, I have been feeling shitty all day. You gave me half an hour of happy time. Thank you so much, I appreciate every single one of your videos.
im so happy to hear you saying you can sleep with your friends. theres this weird idea that friends with benefits has to be *only sex,* never emotional. but like, i have sex with one of my best friends. we are extremely close, but not romantically. we cuddle, but we dont really kiss unless we’re in the middle of sex. it’s just like… chill. and we’re both cool with it.
If I'm a short, broke, sexist man, I'd rather believe women won't date me because I'm short and broke than because I'm sexist. Literally anything about myself is better for women to hate about me than my being sexist. I must guard my sexism from scrutiny at all costs. The best things to say women hate about me are things I can't change about myself, that way I can play the victim. I can't stop being short, I can't stop being broke, but I can stop being sexist. But I don't wanna.
In one of my early relationships, I projected my insecurities a lot. To the extent that when my partner consoled me and told me it's not a problem, I would do some mental gymnastics and convince myself she's lying. This is what these people are doing when they talk about women's desires and tell a woman that no matter what she says she prioritises height and income.
Btw you are low key one of my favorites to watch. I love how you talk about different subjects like this. Its the same way my brain processes it all lol
(A little before 3:18) not only does he say dream man, he requires them to specify looks and money. I know you may have abbreviated it, but it doesn't sound like he was open to any other input.
I'm a gay man, and I say women make great friends. They're really nice most of the time, and they make great company! Although sometimes....they can be really mean and hurtful, but I just ignore those women. Men also make great friends, but I don't have many male friends because I keep ending up with crushes on them, and they're usually straight, or taken. And when I tell them, they just feel awkward and don't want to be friends anymore. Sorry for my weird rants, i get off topic a lot.
So, you’re telling me that women are meaner than men?? Try fearing for your life from the moment you enter puberty. You have no idea what it’s like to be a female. Being a gay male is way easier. I’m a bi woman and I’m treated horribly for both of those by men and straight/lesbian women.
@@rhainbowrhailien I'm a trans man. And I was gonna say that men were meaner to me than women, but I thought that the way I was saying it was really harsh and I forgot to say what men would always tell me to kill myself because I'm gay and trans, and that I could repent to Jesus after deleting my first thing. Sorry. I'm really forgetful. Sorry.
you dont have to feel bad about a few rejections. having someone trans like you is probably new to them and they werent ready to handle the situation properly. im glad youre able to find good friends though ❤
It's really fucking funny how most used argument these men use is biology, like we're only animals and have absolutely no higher goals in life besides maintaining the human population. But what makes it even better is, that if we really wanna discuss this based on biology, then women have all the right to be picky and sleep around. Like, bro, I have to pick out a man with the best genes to pass on, not my fault you don't fit in the criteria. Also, in the animal kingdom females usually have different partners for mating, they change after the females raise their children.
Hmm... My dream partner... They would earn enough to take care of themselves. I don't really care about height, although it would be a little awkward if they were alot shorter. But I'm pansexual so I fall for personality. So they would be kind and funny and generous. They would have a ton of hobbies and always be down to have fun. I'd like to have interesting conversations. And they have to be into music (literally the only thing my current boyfriend doesn't have in this list)
Female friends are great, because they occassionally will need someone to carry heavy shit. And then you get to feel super helpful with very little effort.
@@elfodelputoinfierno Yeah I'm tall and fit enough to be invited every time someone moves houses. I don't like when people assume I want to carry their couch to the 4th floor, but I really enjoy doing that. I pick up heavy stuff as a hobby, you not busting a disk is a bonus.
You could sum up this entire podcast with this meme: "Nice argument senator, how about a source to back it up?" "MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP!!!"
I listen to your videos every day when I do house chores. They are like mantras, sometimes listening to the same video weeks apart. Your words mean the world to me. Being someone who was consistently invalidated growing up and hearing you time after time “validate me” has been like therapy. Thank you so much for your time.
Fresh and fit is why I'm done with relationships when I was trying to end my transition and live as male. I don't care now so I'm living as the trans woman that I'm meant to be. I've spent too much time caring what others think of me.
My dream partner is someone that is very organised and can help me manage my mess because I can't keep my room clean to save my life, let alone a house. Someone who doesn't forget that I put the cup in the microwave. And who won't get fed up with having to remind me to do my share of chores. Also they need to give good hugs. And like me. I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't like me. I could settle for any gentle "giant" (giant meaning just taller than myself, and I'm 5'4 so not much needed there, as I'm already on the shorter side).
As someone who's engaged to their childhood best friend, I don't understand how people wouldn't want to consider their partner their or one of their best friends. My fiancé and I were friends for 7 years before we started dating (and have been a couple for just as long). Neither of us became friends with the intention of dating each other. We were 10 when we met. We bonded over being the only Asian kids in a school of literally only white people (and also me being the only person he could communicate with /somewhat/ bc we both spoke broken Japanese - for context I'm Chinese and he's Korean, it's kinda funny to think Japanese was our common link lol) and eventually found out we had a lot of common interests During our 7 years of friendship, we were in other romantic relationships, and there was no jealous feud with the other's partners - well, not coming from our side anyway. Feelings started to arise much later when we both got into college and even to this day neither of us have a clue when or why it happened. It just did. I still consider him my best friend above all and I think this is why our relationship has worked out as well as it did, bc we had time to learn about what makes the other tick, how to avoid it, and knew exactly what we were getting into from the very beginning. We didn't have to go through the phase of only wanting to show your good side and we don't really have communication issues bc we're comfortable telling each other pretty much anything I'm not saying to marry your childhood best friend bc let's face it, it's not realistic for most people, but I think it's a good thing to get to know someone as a friend before anything else. You tend to be more honest and straightforward with friends right off the bat than you are with someone you're trying to pursue romantically
One of my best friends is a gay guy. The chance of us ever being in a relationship is zero. And even if he was attracted to women, I don’t see him in that way. He is my dance friend and I love him platonically. Platonic love exists and it is how me and my bf started out
PTSD is an odd demon to battle. I often don't realise how traumatic something was until the delayed reaction hits. For instance my one longer relationship didn't seem abusive to me but because I forced myself into it despite being aroace I still get days where every man with longer hair and glasses looks like my ex and sets off fight or flight, or I randomly remember a noise he used to make and become apprehensive. It's been 7 years since I broke up with him, though he called twice afterwards, for the last time in 2020. That last call left me shaking and experiencing a full flashback. Previously, only childhood trauma triggers caused such a response so I recognized it as a trauma response. Wild. At least I have the reassurance that every 7 years the body has replaced all skin cells with new ones so not a single cell on my body has been touched by him. They're all dead and gone.
I dream of dating Alexandra Daddario, Anna Kendrick or Anya Taylor-Joy. Does that mean that I will now break up with my girlfriend in order to pursue one of them? Well, according to the logic of the Fresh and Fit halfwits...yes, I will definitely do that.
“There’s no such thing as a platonic relationship between men and women“ There’s no such thing? One of my best friends is a guy and I have no interest in a romantic relationship with him. He likes guys and I like girls, even without that factor we’re just not compatible that way with each other, friendship is amazing but anything romantic it’s not happening
Thanks for another wonderful video!! I always enjoy your insight and jokes (and also laughing at stupid people) Also unrelated, but we have the same stuffed dog lol (and I’m pretty sure Seungmin does also, as I saw it on his bubble profile pic) :D
an ex of mine re-entered my life and tried (and couldve succeeded) at continuing to abuse and use me to get what they want, but their main motive the entire time was to find reasons to hate me again as their old "reasons" were proven false... now me and my friends all intend to cut them off finally
the genuine heartfelt advice at the end of the video really got me.... you're so right, it's not worth sticking around if you have any sort of doubt about whether the situation you're in is 100% safe - you shouldn't have to convince yourself it's all fine. i hope anyone who ever has to experience this can find help and recover safely, you're not alone
I was a C cup when I was twelve, and I had to wear really high collared shirts or else I always caught GROWN MEN staring at me. I still hate my body and am extreamly self concious about it because of that.
It also confuses me as to why these men want to live a lifestyle like hue Hefner and these playboy men ,but those same men who lived it talk about how they are lonely and that while it was fun they never got intimacy and now in their old age have no one, but the nurses paid to care for them. But these same men say women are going to die alone but it's women who have their friends and families in the end. Also why does he assume us as women WANT to be hit on buy any and every guy. Like sir you may shoot your shot at any and every that walks by and want all women to want you cause you want all you can have (but you don't actually care about all these women you just wanna hit and run) but women could be minding their business and a man Holla and the girl kindly says no I'm good and they get yelled at, harassed, or worst. So in childhood boys and girls can't be friends cause boys just wanna fuck, and girls just wanna friendzone men... at 11 sir ?🥴🙃 it's giving all I have for a friend is the bros and my fleshlight
Tldr of this podcast's philosophy: • Women are sexual conquest property, not people at all • ALL relationships are transactional, including friendship • Being single is a moral failure, not a sign of self confidence and self reliance
I'm afab and present like a masculine woman/tomboy, I have men friends, we're not attracted to each other, we are all just friends. I even have a friend I DO have sex with, we still have a platonic relationship! These are not mutually exclusive!!
@@CarolaTesla that is so sad alsjaksjaa love yourself, you deserve the best! And yeah, you need to be in a good mind state and trust your friend a lot! It's definitely not for everyone
@@CarolaTesla I don't think it has to do with maturity at all! I had one proper fwb before and while I was physically attracted to him, I was not at all in a romantic way. We were just so different and I could have never seen us in a relationship. I don't know if you understand what I mean or if sex and feelings are that connected to you (or rather feelings and sex), making in impossible to not fall for a friend with benefits. Either way, I don't think will power and maturity could save me when it's a friend I could imagine myself being with. But I won't befriend someone like that anyways.
Something I had forgotten until now, I was walking through town (small town NZ) when I was 11 or 12 and some grown man yelled at me about my "bee stings", actually disgusting.
It's also possible not have to a more moderate or low libido and yet prefer to be non-monogamous because one is inclined to form emotional, romantic attachments to multiple people.
I have a bunch of guy friends, granted im a lesbian but yk, i have female friends too. My first guy friend actually turned out to be gay and i turned out to be a lesbian which is fun
I‘m lesbian and same. I have guy friends that are straight and even female friends who are queer and I‘m still friends with all of them no problem. Idk why friendship is so looked down upon. And my straight guy friends I was friends with before I realised that I am gay and we were friends and still are.
@@HoodwinkFalls plus most searched po*n for women was lesbian plus in straight too the women is only shown so ofcourse women are jacking off by seeing other women only Women don't have any interest in the male body and it is true Plus most so called straight women experiment all the time and women get aroused by seeing other women only they are turn on for them that's why every girl is lesbian and it is a fact . Straight women is just a myth
@@HoodwinkFalls @HoodwinkFalls plus most searched po*n for women was lesbian plus in straight too the women is only shown so ofcourse women are jacking off by seeing other women only Women don't have any interest in the male body and it is true Plus most so called straight women experiment all the time and women get aroused by seeing other women only they are turn on for them that's why every girl is lesbian and it is a fact . Straight women is just a myth
I have a guy friend & we see each other as just friends because while we are both bi we just don't have that kind of attraction to each other. We just like each other's company just like all of my friends of various gender identities. Some of them we talk about horror movies & games with each other while others we talk about steampunk or Victorian fashion just because those are things we are interested in. Also the whole who is ur dream guy is a dumb question especially when u then use it say all woman like this or that. And that's not even to acknowledge the fact that not everyone wants to be a romantic &/or sexuality relationships & not everyone is going to date the opposite sex. The question to actually ask is what is ur standards for a someone u want to date? if they want to date at all. But they don't want to do that because it wouldn't fit their diluted narrative
the thing I find most funny is they’ll criticise the women who say they want taller or richer dudes but when a woman says “it doesn’t really matter” they say she’s lying like wtf do you want them to say bro
Confirmation bias, they want to see and hear what they already believe, and if someone contradicts that, they need to try and twist the reality to fit what they want to believe.
They don’t want women to say anything
@@tommyferguson4356 Youre wrong, I'm sure they would want women to say how big and strong and masculine they are, and that they want to have sex with them. Also, "here is the sandwich I made for you, would you like a beer too?".
It's like witch trials all over again.
"She’s a witch!"
"I'm not a witch!"
"Liar!! BURN HER!!"
Agreed I was just talking to a dude like that too maybe he was one of his little followers. He was mad that women were bashing men on there own platforms but men build careers out of bashing women for things they can't control too and some how that's not a big deal.
They never want to take any accountability of there own and those pick mes that go on there shows and enable these incels are even worse because they don't realize there being brainwashed. If you really want to hate people watch just five minutes of this guys show. They really give a bad name to both men and women combined when you think about it. They shouldn't be the role models in our society because there constantly at war with the opposite gender.
Also I think it’s disgusting the way they justify guys cheating but it’s a no no for women. Cheating is disgusting no matter what side does it
They even think having an instagram account is cheating if you’re a woman. They’ll find any way they can to demonize girls and women
@@zwicker5585 just make sure you don’t follow in their footsteps and demonize boys and men
It's just like....WHY stay/be in a relationship if you're gonna cheat? Just....break up with the person.
@@GxrnetzBlaze i am EXTREMELY emotionally unstable if I ever got cheated on I’d probably go cyberpsycho and go on a killing spree
@@RaidenMustDie3594 Are you talking to me? Where did that come from? Chill dawg
lol, straight men: "I hate women"
Gay guys: "..."
Straight guys: "Ew, men with men"
Closeted gay for sure, but even other men wouldn't want them.
A "homie" called me soft for flirting with a girl the other day.
I guess flirting with women is gay now? Lol
@@SatansGreatestSoldier There's no winning with those guys
@@pissapocalypse wait until they find out that their dads at one point liked their moms. Super gay!
Fellas is it gay to love and marry a woman?
Yes. Yes it is. Only two dudebros committing themselves to being manly men can be married.
I am a cis man, my two best friends are cis women, and I can promise you, on my life and with a gun to my head, I have absolutely zero sexual attraction to either of them. We have a great time hanging out and talking about shared interests, books and movies, and so on. Men who think it is impossible for a man and a woman to be friends without having sex are gross.
Agreed.
As a cis woman who has two best friends who are cis men, I second that. All three of us are straight or bi too!
See that’s also a thing: even if you had sexual attraction to any of them, you can not act on it. A person can be friends with someone who they find attractive and not immediately jump their bones. Or at least we can be friendly. These misogynistic men dont seem to realize that men can have self-control and respect towards women (and vv.)
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 mhm! I know and are friends with lots of people who I find attractive on many levels, but I can never see us being together as partners because not everyone will make great partners even if you make great friends
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
Exactly there have been some friends of mine that I’ve liked but figured they didn’t feel the same. I was able to be happy being their friend. Some of them the platonic feelings grow more and the romantic ones go away bc the platonic feelings became so much stronger. I even have some friends who have liked each other and confessed but the feelings weren’t mutual but they still stayed great friends.
The fact that he thinks he can't be friends with someone unless he "gains" something out of it is soo telling and if his "friends" had an IQ above zero, they'd realize hes probably using them.
Yeah... sounds like a sociopath a little bit. He only cares if people are useful.
@@kaihiroku8495 either that or he’s mimicking sociopathic traits to try and make himself feel better (which is an actual thing people do it’s concerning)
Malignant narcissism, I think.
If a woman in a relationship isn’t allowed to cheat and single mistresses are “low value” harlets with high body counts and therefore undesirable to a high value male, then who are all these men cheating with or even tempted by? Other men?
It sounds like they are referring to teenagers. They said they are privileged after all…
They are the creepy men that catcall 13 year olds at the bus station.
Honestly it all comes down to the Madonna/whore dichotomy. There are high-class (usually financially affluent) women who are demure, submissive, and preserve their virtue to be shared with only the one man they marry, and there are low-class (often poor) harlots who are only good for what they can offer men sexually. For men who think like that, they see women as objects who only exist to serve their interests in some way, so it makes sense that that there are women who they marry and women that the have affairs with.
Suddenly gay lol
You discovered it! These men just aren’t out of the closet yet
That’s exactly what I find so weird about this stuff. Cuz these guys always talk about wanting to date and have sex with girls, but they only ever want inexperienced virgin girls. And then they want to be able to cheat whenever. But they also think the more sex a woman has, the less valuable they are. And that women should concern themselves with marriage and kids and have lower standards. Their weird requests only work if there’s two groups of women. Sex dolls and baby machines/maids. And they respect neither. So like…. It’s gross. It’s hypocritical and weird and so so groooooooss 😂
"If you don't care about income or height, why are you single?"
He is so close to learning that more than just those two qualities are relevant when it comes to two people spending time together, much less building a shared life. He was just about there.
In fairness, those are the only two qualities he probably has, everything else about him is abysmal.
They are projecting, because they only care about surface level things like that in a woman, they can’t convince of any other reason to date a woman other than for her appearance and sexuality, so it must be the same for women but since they can’t have “wHoRes” and “WhOrEs” are bad on principle , they must look for something else, and that thing happens to be money . That’s also why they can’t think of men and women becoming friends, because they only view women as sex objects that only care about money and height.
@@dana-ger_to_society1011 But can he get any woman he wants? If not, he’s still THIS close to getting it
Not quite: Notice the "single" part? They also think that women shouldn't have standards and shouldn't enjoy single life (free from responsibilities to the family, and to boys and men around them) so they should always be osme guy's property.
Shoutout to the women on these podcasts for retaining their composure bc if I were one of them I would’ve thrown my microphone at the men.
Same.
Yeah, I would be so furious, I'd want to do that. If I feel threatened I might genuinely do that impulsively. If I am to have a discussion, there must be an agreement to keep your voice from going too loud, and listen to eachother's sentences. I hate being talked over and accidently interrupting someone else. I have had discussions in the comment section of RUclips and been fine, because one can write all they need to try and get their point across before posting.
I'm pretty sure most of these men just want to bully women until they break and then say "women are so emotional, lmao look she freaked out"
A lot of the times if they do say something back to them or if they try to call them out. They literally get kicked off the stream lmao. There’s a couch for people who “interrupt” fresh and fit. Idk the video but there’s a clip of him absolutely throwing a fit over a girl just trying to have a conversation with him
I'd would've calmly punched one of the guys in the face. Cant call me emotional if I dont act emotional
🤣
It's so funny when "men " like this say " I'm the provider, I don't want my girl working or having a life outside of me" and then their girl asks for money aka what they said they're gonna provide and the girl is suddenly " a gold digger that only wants my money! >:E " lol
Aaaaand from what I see only guys that be working minimum wage jobs care 🤡 never have I EVER even heard about a millionaire complaining about gold diggers
@@gabrielamaciaga8551 Right, like ppl who have gold digger money don't really care about gold diggers lol
@@gabrielamaciaga8551 Not everyone can be rich like your sugar daddy, Gabriela..
Exactly. They're like "Women shouldn't have jobs, men should provide for them" and then the woman is like can you buy me this thing and the guy is like "ALL WOMEN CARE ABOUT IS MONEY"
Like, sir, you won't let her get her own money. The logic is where?
@@pissapocalypse They have as much logic as they have brain cells.
Fresh and fit: "men have it so hard UwU"
Me (a trans girl): bro you're on easy mode.
Both genders have their ups and downs I don’t think it’s healthy to believe the grass is greener with any gender
@@RaidenMustDie3594 You have to admit a cis man has it easier overall than a trans woman
offtopic but
hope youve transitioned well/are transitioning well !!! :D
@@dolphinbanana3053 no I still get physically assaulted, and get treated like crap, as a guy. The grass ain’t greener, everyone you meet is fighting a war you know nothing about, everyone has struggles unless you’re a trust fund baby, or the son of a millionaire
as a cis man, I REALLY love the fact that I get to decide when I interact with potential partners.
Seriously. It's such a privilege. If I was a woman, I don't even know if I'd ever leave my house on account of all those dudes hitting on me 👀
“we dont play by the same set of rules”
it’s . not. a. game. you’re supposed to connect on a genuine level with other human beings.
Also... based on that comparason they apparently needed schooling for growing up , like.... ????
@@Kardinaalilintu Not sure I understand, don't we all need help for growing up? Isn't that kind of the whole point of family and society?
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 that they still do which is fair but not to that level for sure
Lol, they made up the game they are playing, the women aren't even playing it and those men still lose. Cis-het kingbabies couldn't be any more pathetic.
I love being aroace and still loving women more then these men
I mean. That doesn't even have to be love, or even liking. Just acknowledging that they are people, and not be like evil manipulators, but also incredibly stupid and manipulators.
You remind me of when we were watching a show about Algir I think, but somewhere where it is legal for men to have four wives, but already existing wives need to give you permission.
And he was like “how are you okay with that, that’s not equality “ and I was like “honey from my few decades on earth i cant find four men to like like that, but i’d gladly have three co-wives 😂Cause women are usually cool to hang out with. Not many men that are as cool as you. Already too lucky too meet you” and he was like “hmmmm i guess”
Like. Sweety. Patriarchy ate out your brains. Most of you are barely functional without a woman. Why would any woman want more of that? Also being so incapable of life yet having such huge egos. Nobody likes that. Like these men in these podcasts. They’re just so stupid, what would you even talk about with them? I don’t see any if them being capable of basic humour (a thing women actually find sexy)
For real. Like I'm aroace-spec and I do consider myself into women (as much as I can be into *any*one) but like wow.
It's super clear that they only view women as sex objects and not people that you can genuinely like for their personality.
Dido
If you think that makes those men look bad, I'm a LITERAL MISANTHROPE (which means I hate humans in-general), BUT unlike the incels running the podcast, I am not misogynistic IN THE SLIGHTEST!!!! HOW BAD CAN PEOPLE BE WHEN THEY HATE ALL WOMEN, WHEREAS A PERSON WHO HATES MOST OF HUMANITY DOESN'T?!?!?!??! That is so crazy to me... Also, hi fellow ace!
When I was twelve, boys my age rarely talked to girls, but plenty of grown men hit on me in public. That is not abundance in relationships! You have to be insane to think that.
Yup, exactly!
Yeah that's an abundance in sexual harassment and it's not something to be desired and it's certainly not "Women living on easy mode". Yeah it's so easy to not want to go outside for fear of getting kidnapped by some sex craved lunatic. So easy. Level 1 difficulty.
Seriously, men cry “easy mode” because women get assaulted!
Men need to make it make sense
It's not easymode to have a car full of college boys demanded my mother throw me in their trunk in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
I was like 12 and petrified.
Same guys that get mad that if I'd build a guy he'd be tall fit and have money, say they want a perfect hourglass figure housewife. Neither are likely which is why you go for someone who likes you back
Hourglass figure, barely any weight, gorgeous enough to be a model, (possibly) makes a good income, and is also happy cooking, cleaning, and having sex whenever you are up for it, oh and will let you have sex with others while being faithful to you. Thats the kind of standards these kind of men have. But women are the shallow ones.
9:13 someone finally said it! The whole "women can't do what men do" thing has ALWAYS bothered me because I know for a fact that rule is bullshit because I've seen FAR too many exceptions to the rule!
12:42 BINGO!!!
Thank you for being a cool guy 💗
There are so many exceptions to every generalized statement, and considering how different lifestyles people live, generalizations just tend to be flat out inaccurate
Also why is there even a contest? Like who is keeping score anyway?
For men to always be trying to think of things they can do that a woman can't really screams to me how insecure they are in their own value as an individual and need to rely on their (usually biological) gender to have a one up over women and/or other people to feel special.
It's one thing to genuinely feel insecure in your life and that you might be worthless. But if you have to bully other people, let alone a specific group of people to feel better about yourself, you really ain't shit afterall
They seem to view every single "relationship" in their lives as transactional and boy what a sad, sad way to exist.
Just wanted to let you know that I admire your courage to go through all these podcasts of misogynistic men. I'm getting sick just by listening to the few video extracts you're showing us. I can't even imagine listening to an entire podcast episode without throwing my phone out of the window.
Not to mention the subscribers from these manosphere podcasts that attack anyone who speaks out about this kind of content, especially if they're women speaking out.
I feel the same
@@lunaraynwolf7036 Yep. The amounts of times I got dogpiled by Tate worshippers for saying he should have never had access to martial arts because he is going to use it not for its intended purpose (fair competition and self defence) but to abuse people is staggering.
what I can’t stand is that guy saying it’s okay for men to cheat but not women. it’s sexism plain and simple. beyond that, it’s him moralising. there is no such thing as objective morality, it’s all based on our personal values, and his values are clearly biased towards men, which according to my own values is wrong. we should not hold this double standard for men vs women, we’re not *that* different.
It's a petty premise formulated around a fragile ego foundation. Not just misogynistic in nature. Men like this have the belief that when men cheat, it is only sexual. However, when a woman cheats, it's based on emotions. The man cannot fathom or comprehend that his lover would fall for another, that would mean he failed as a man, leaving him with a wounded ego. Promoting this one sided gender boon as a biological imperative would allow men to sleep around unimpeded and without the fear of their girlfriends/wives doing the same. Leaving their paper thin egos intact.
@@sichrix that is interesting and makes a lot of sense! I haven't looked at it that way before.
The thing about power imbalance in consensual relationships is that every party actually does have equal power. A person consents to power play can always take away the consent and regain their power if they are not comfortable. Every healthy relationship, including ones that include power play, has equal power and consent.
In like BDSM/kink, yeah, but that's a power imbalance that you voluntarily enter into; there's a societal, implicit power imbalance in "normal" het relationships that's very difficult to opt out of and most people don't even seem to notice it's there.
Yeah it's why people have safe words (or signals). They are always in control and can end it at any time
@@pissapocalypse Yup, no safewords in a relationship unfortunately. Besides breaking up but at that point, you've been through enough already.
@@Mossy-KatLike conservative relationships, there are tons of power imbalance without consent, women are expected to fullfil all their partners desires, even if it's something that they have aversion, and most conservatives don't see that, they don't stop to think about why it's required from conservative women to be submissive, they say that it's for women protection, but I have my doubts, there are a lot of sex abuse within the conservative communit.
@@grazielaalmeida8438 Yeah exactly
Dudes discover polyamory and is like, "This is mine, you can't have any."
Lmao
I'm sorry I'm picturing a pissy baby with a toy truck
Those poor girls barely talked because they immediatly lost like 678 billion braincells as soon as they sat down around those men. 😔
I wouldn't be able to talk because I would be trying to figure out how they came to those dumbass conclusions the whole time
It was excruciating would've loved it if they brought a siren when it happened 😔
This kills me because when I started dating my husband, he was jobless and broke. And he still worked really hard to earn money. And there was half a year where he stopped working at all to get some education and he took over almost all of the housework
And I am scared one day our children will see something like this and believe it and basically disrespect their wonderful father
I'd say try not to worry about it. Most of the time children are taught that sorta stuff so as long as you've taught them that being broke ect is nothing to be ashamed of they should hopefully see past videos like this.
Just be open and honest and vulnerable with your children.
You should teach your children not some random people on RUclips.
@@princessofhell4639 oh i don't know, stupid ideas can get into heads easily if repeated enough... even for adults who should know better
@@ybd Even if I was trying to teach someone something here, those two are not mutually exclusive
Fresh and fit needs to go bye bye soon. Its scary the amount of men they’ve convinced that woman are objects and not real human beings like everyone else
They never said that lol. Ur triggered by a viewpoint they don’t have.
@@shanks8192 dude they dont even have to say “women are objects” to say that. Just listen to how they craft their words to say that. They always indirectly point to it. Not hard to pick up on. In fact they have been pretty direct on it a few times
@@shanks8192 But what they’re saying implies it, just because they’re not saying it outright doesn’t mean that they’re not saying it.
@@shanks8192 Being intentionally obtuse or too retarded to pick up on implications without it being spelt out to you like a kindergartner
@@weirdreapr shanks has horse blinders on
The thing I've noticed about these guys is that the reason they're finding women who are only into hight and money is cuz thats the only thing they bring to the table. Like they never talk about hobbies, interests, pets, films, sence of humour. You know, stuff that you can bond over. If they only say "I'm tall and rich" then the only women who will want to be with them are women who are after hight and money. They just suck at advertising themselves.
And also because if they're looking for women who are interested in a more traditional gender role based relationship then surprise, surprise, they're likely to find those women also have a more traditional priorities list for the kind of partners they're into. They're literally saying it's only natural for them to want that kind of relationship and women that fit more traditional values but belittling any women who are interested in the corresponding version of said relationship, it just makes no sense!
My favorite thing is that they get mad when women want someone with a high paying job but also they want said woman to be a housewife
The same guys who say "women have their value up front " will also say women are letting themselves go when they stop doing their nails, skin, fake tan, hair, make up, gain an ounce of weight, or go for more comfortable clothing style.
Don't even mention how they treat ugly and fat women.
Can't believe that dude sat and talked about being hit on when you hit puberty like that's some sort of thing to be happy or grateful for lmao
He's definitely the kind of guy to think women/girls secretly love being catcalled and are actually super flattered by it
@@emmao6578 little does he know how much it scares little girls who are not even 12. It’s so sad that so many men think that catcalling is not blatant disrespect
Are these women being held captive? NONE of them look like they want to be there-
He pays them to be on the show.
@@strawberryj3lly Maybe that's what he wants you to believe
It's creepy to me to thinl about how i was cat called and hit on by men way more when i was 13. I am a non binary afab person by the way but my transition is recent so.. Iugh
I'm sorry, thats fucked up but you know what I may be a stranger but I'm proud of you for transitioning mate
I’m AMAB but when I was a 12 year old, I had more adult guys messaging me than I do now. creepy
Not to overstep or assume or anything, but as a fellow nb afab, please be prepared for the cat calls to change in a nasty direction. I was not prepared and at seventeen it came as such a shock to me when I was targeted *because* I was trans
Again, I don't mean to say that this is 100% gonna happen to you, but please be prepared. The dangers haven't reduced, they've changed, except this time it's twice as painful because they want to take away your autonomy and undermine your gender identity
These are the kind of guys who see being single as a sign of failure, rather than a personal choice someone makes
I'm glad to have arrived early in this freshly baked episode of "Oh god what in the hell is wrong with these men please someone stop them for heavens sake-", it's always a blast to see these.
Yep
I think one of the biggest issues that these men face is their inability to have a relationship that is not about extracting something from the other person. The idea of a friendship needing to be "useful" to begin with suggests that they also think about men this way, they just don't expect sex specifically. Hence why they end up in these stupid circlejerks instead of diversifying who they talk to and what perspectives they see.
Yea, they see relationships as transactional and wonder why they've never had a meaningful one. Until they turn their empathy back on, that's not going to happen.
It's honestly just sad that these men never learned about women, and relationships, and just shows the lack of care and education on these topics. It's obvious these mens parents raised them in this belief, and that they didn't hear other perspectives until they were so stuck in this idea that they couldn't change their mind, which is terrible, and I can't see them actually getting anywhere in life, as the world is getting increasingly more open and accepting of new ideas, and misogyny is being called out more and more.
And this video, kids, is exactly what happens when u don't rebel against ur egg and/or sperm donor. Just saying.
Can confirm one of my best friends and I (he’s gay and I’m lesbian) are only friends because we secretly like each other
😅😅
I love that they had to push the answers they wanted out too. The women were flat out saying that looks and money were shallow to care about.
For the record, I'm demi and barely even care about looks. But yeah, sure, I would also love to date someone who is rich so I wouldn't have to work a job I hate and could work on my hobbies and take the time to work on my health and find a job that I liked.
Also, how high would many straight men's answers be if you asked for their "dream woman"?
Your point about being hit on not being a positive is so true and very well put! Personally, as an ace, being hit on and groped and taunted has been nothing but a long line of horrors
3:14 hate to break it to every man ever, but the only acceptable answer is Howl Pendragon. He is the standard, he is the only man I'd ever consider dating especially considering the fact that I'm a lesbian.
Is that Howl from Howl's moving castle. Then yep, also as a lesbian. And Flynn Ryder 😍
As a fictosexual asexual, I agree. Anime version and book version are equally fantastic. Though currently my autistic obsession is making me cheat on him with Zack Foster from Angels of Death. My fantasy attraction type can pretty much only be classified as "chaotic."
@@wintergray1221 Absolutely immaculate taste
@@RoseSmell2005 took a while for my brain to remember who Flynn Ryder is, I guess the "smolder" is irresistible to everyone 😅
At this point, I’m convinced that these men were rejected numerous times in the past, and they’re just lashing out on random women…
Definitely. Someone told them they have a small p during an argument or something and it shaped their entire hateful personality.
No. It’s Sexism. You’re blaming women for men’s attitudes. That’s victim blaming. You’re acting like it couldn’t be you. All privileged people have some form of prejudice. 97% of us females have been sexually victimized by a male and it’s usually by age 11, when we start puberty and they’re usually 25+ year old adults. That’s predatory. The Patriarchy has normalized hetero male pedophilia. I’ve been through much worse than rejection and I’m still kind. Rejection is something that everyone experiences. I’ve experienced it. There’s plenty of men that act like this while being attractive and abusing and raping lots of us women, with their victims being too brainwashed or scared to say no. The majority of diagnosed narcissists are men. Men have abused me in many ways. Fellow women have harmed me much less, but, both still traumatized me, though. Every human was created by a female, both males and fellow females. Misogynists are ungrateful.
Lots of men do that...
gee i wonder why they were rejected? 😆
Yeah, but you know, they say women are the emotional ones and we're snowflakes. These guys turned vilains after multiple people just said no thank you 😂
Its strange that these guys don't understand the idea of being friends with a woman who you find attractive. You can find them attractive and just not try to bang them, that is a thing that exists
A lot of these videos that I've seen have girls whose first language isn't English and they treat them like they're thick, even though they probably only know one language and have a loose grasp of that honestly.
my jaw LITERALLY dropped when he said the thing abt being hit on since puberty
I feel like these guys are somehow missing the simple fact that women are, you know, people. And people should be treated with respect and empathy. Not sure how that is such a difficult concept for them to grasp.
Also I am so sorry to hear about QK's PTSD getting triggered and hope she does something to relax and take her mind off things
Savanna, your videos are a blessing. Even when talking about frustrating topics, you take me out of my dark places, at least for a little while. I had my first confrontation with a transphobe that wasn't family for the first time, and because I didn’t expect it from that person, I have been feeling shitty all day. You gave me half an hour of happy time. Thank you so much, I appreciate every single one of your videos.
Sorry you had to face that 💛 I wish you well!
im so happy to hear you saying you can sleep with your friends. theres this weird idea that friends with benefits has to be *only sex,* never emotional. but like, i have sex with one of my best friends. we are extremely close, but not romantically. we cuddle, but we dont really kiss unless we’re in the middle of sex. it’s just like… chill. and we’re both cool with it.
This is like the ultimate crossover episode I've been waiting for 😁
My dream man owns a ski resort and my family gets free lift tickets for life 😂
Because you care so much about your family or because you do not have to talk to them if they are in and endless skilfit loop? :P
@@stefiskek6894 Because we all love downhill skiing XD
That podcast feels like the embodiment of "source: trust me bro".
If I'm a short, broke, sexist man, I'd rather believe women won't date me because I'm short and broke than because I'm sexist. Literally anything about myself is better for women to hate about me than my being sexist. I must guard my sexism from scrutiny at all costs. The best things to say women hate about me are things I can't change about myself, that way I can play the victim. I can't stop being short, I can't stop being broke, but I can stop being sexist. But I don't wanna.
In one of my early relationships, I projected my insecurities a lot. To the extent that when my partner consoled me and told me it's not a problem, I would do some mental gymnastics and convince myself she's lying. This is what these people are doing when they talk about women's desires and tell a woman that no matter what she says she prioritises height and income.
Why would any woman go on stinky and sloppy.
I’ve been awake for about 10 minutes and heard the opening of “you’re worth fighting for” and started bawling
Those are the most unhinged arguments and comparisons I've ever seen
Btw you are low key one of my favorites to watch. I love how you talk about different subjects like this. Its the same way my brain processes it all lol
Man was given an inheritance and thinks he was self-made. Its giving projection
(A little before 3:18) not only does he say dream man, he requires them to specify looks and money. I know you may have abbreviated it, but it doesn't sound like he was open to any other input.
I'm very much here for a Queer Kiwi video on F&F. 🍿
offtopic but the hyunjin plushie in the back goes hard
Oh yes when I was 12 I ABSOLUTELY LOVED when truck drivers and construction workers whistled at me!
I'm a gay man, and I say women make great friends. They're really nice most of the time, and they make great company! Although sometimes....they can be really mean and hurtful, but I just ignore those women. Men also make great friends, but I don't have many male friends because I keep ending up with crushes on them, and they're usually straight, or taken. And when I tell them, they just feel awkward and don't want to be friends anymore. Sorry for my weird rants, i get off topic a lot.
So, you’re telling me that women are meaner than men?? Try fearing for your life from the moment you enter puberty. You have no idea what it’s like to be a female. Being a gay male is way easier. I’m a bi woman and I’m treated horribly for both of those by men and straight/lesbian women.
@@rhainbowrhailien I'm a trans man. And I was gonna say that men were meaner to me than women, but I thought that the way I was saying it was really harsh and I forgot to say what men would always tell me to kill myself because I'm gay and trans, and that I could repent to Jesus after deleting my first thing. Sorry. I'm really forgetful. Sorry.
you dont have to feel bad about a few rejections. having someone trans like you is probably new to them and they werent ready to handle the situation properly. im glad youre able to find good friends though ❤
@@jweaver9089 oh i hope youre feeling better now
@@Google_remote I'm fine
It's really fucking funny how most used argument these men use is biology, like we're only animals and have absolutely no higher goals in life besides maintaining the human population. But what makes it even better is, that if we really wanna discuss this based on biology, then women have all the right to be picky and sleep around. Like, bro, I have to pick out a man with the best genes to pass on, not my fault you don't fit in the criteria. Also, in the animal kingdom females usually have different partners for mating, they change after the females raise their children.
Hmm... My dream partner... They would earn enough to take care of themselves. I don't really care about height, although it would be a little awkward if they were alot shorter. But I'm pansexual so I fall for personality. So they would be kind and funny and generous. They would have a ton of hobbies and always be down to have fun. I'd like to have interesting conversations. And they have to be into music (literally the only thing my current boyfriend doesn't have in this list)
Female friends are great, because they occassionally will need someone to carry heavy shit. And then you get to feel super helpful with very little effort.
This is very wholesome and I love it. 💕
Aww, that's a wholesome way to look at things lmao,,
Having diverse friends in general is such a blessing
Edit: typo
it's true, I do frequently need help with jars.
Same goes for gym rats like me. My brain goes full on blender brrr noises "ME STRONG PROTEC FRIEND"
It's wonderful
@@elfodelputoinfierno Yeah I'm tall and fit enough to be invited every time someone moves houses. I don't like when people assume I want to carry their couch to the 4th floor, but I really enjoy doing that. I pick up heavy stuff as a hobby, you not busting a disk is a bonus.
I’m from New Jersey (USA) and the way you say “source” reminds me of how we say “sauce” so to me it sounded like you said”sauce, man, sauce?”
0:08 this meant a lot to me, ive been dealing with a lot of mental health shit and just hearing that im worth fighting just warms my heart, thank you
You could sum up this entire podcast with this meme:
"Nice argument senator, how about a source to back it up?"
"MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP!!!"
I listen to your videos every day when I do house chores. They are like mantras, sometimes listening to the same video weeks apart. Your words mean the world to me. Being someone who was consistently invalidated growing up and hearing you time after time “validate me” has been like therapy. Thank you so much for your time.
where do they even get theories like that from. word randomizer? chat gpt? letting a cat have a stroll on their keyboard??? its so random
Fresh and Fit? More like Moldy and Moribund!
Off topic but green looks very good on you!
"Because *I* didn't tell you to do that" is such a powerful line omg I'm adding it to my vocabulary
Fresh and fit is why I'm done with relationships when I was trying to end my transition and live as male. I don't care now so I'm living as the trans woman that I'm meant to be. I've spent too much time caring what others think of me.
My dream partner is someone that is very organised and can help me manage my mess because I can't keep my room clean to save my life, let alone a house. Someone who doesn't forget that I put the cup in the microwave. And who won't get fed up with having to remind me to do my share of chores. Also they need to give good hugs. And like me. I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't like me.
I could settle for any gentle "giant" (giant meaning just taller than myself, and I'm 5'4 so not much needed there, as I'm already on the shorter side).
As someone who's engaged to their childhood best friend, I don't understand how people wouldn't want to consider their partner their or one of their best friends. My fiancé and I were friends for 7 years before we started dating (and have been a couple for just as long). Neither of us became friends with the intention of dating each other. We were 10 when we met. We bonded over being the only Asian kids in a school of literally only white people (and also me being the only person he could communicate with /somewhat/ bc we both spoke broken Japanese - for context I'm Chinese and he's Korean, it's kinda funny to think Japanese was our common link lol) and eventually found out we had a lot of common interests
During our 7 years of friendship, we were in other romantic relationships, and there was no jealous feud with the other's partners - well, not coming from our side anyway. Feelings started to arise much later when we both got into college and even to this day neither of us have a clue when or why it happened. It just did. I still consider him my best friend above all and I think this is why our relationship has worked out as well as it did, bc we had time to learn about what makes the other tick, how to avoid it, and knew exactly what we were getting into from the very beginning. We didn't have to go through the phase of only wanting to show your good side and we don't really have communication issues bc we're comfortable telling each other pretty much anything
I'm not saying to marry your childhood best friend bc let's face it, it's not realistic for most people, but I think it's a good thing to get to know someone as a friend before anything else. You tend to be more honest and straightforward with friends right off the bat than you are with someone you're trying to pursue romantically
Thank you for the Ace and demi recognition. ❤️
One of my best friends is a gay guy. The chance of us ever being in a relationship is zero. And even if he was attracted to women, I don’t see him in that way.
He is my dance friend and I love him platonically. Platonic love exists and it is how me and my bf started out
I sit here in a mental illness mess and can't understand how I'm more functional just in my views than these dudes
PTSD is an odd demon to battle. I often don't realise how traumatic something was until the delayed reaction hits. For instance my one longer relationship didn't seem abusive to me but because I forced myself into it despite being aroace I still get days where every man with longer hair and glasses looks like my ex and sets off fight or flight, or I randomly remember a noise he used to make and become apprehensive. It's been 7 years since I broke up with him, though he called twice afterwards, for the last time in 2020. That last call left me shaking and experiencing a full flashback. Previously, only childhood trauma triggers caused such a response so I recognized it as a trauma response. Wild. At least I have the reassurance that every 7 years the body has replaced all skin cells with new ones so not a single cell on my body has been touched by him. They're all dead and gone.
I dream of dating Alexandra Daddario, Anna Kendrick or Anya Taylor-Joy. Does that mean that I will now break up with my girlfriend in order to pursue one of them? Well, according to the logic of the Fresh and Fit halfwits...yes, I will definitely do that.
“There’s no such thing as a platonic relationship between men and women“
There’s no such thing?
One of my best friends is a guy and I have no interest in a romantic relationship with him. He likes guys and I like girls, even without that factor we’re just not compatible that way with each other, friendship is amazing but anything romantic it’s not happening
Thanks for another wonderful video!! I always enjoy your insight and jokes (and also laughing at stupid people)
Also unrelated, but we have the same stuffed dog lol (and I’m pretty sure Seungmin does also, as I saw it on his bubble profile pic) :D
8:00 “we’re different” 😂 idk why I found that so funny but I lost it lol
14:07 so they think all women are rich? Wow that is so stupid.
The first thing I ask myself with these podcasts is, WHERE ARE THESE BOYS’ MOMMAS!!
I hate to say it, but their mommas could very well have been the reason they turned out this way. Ever heard of "toxic boy mom" culture?
It makes me laugh watching guys like this. I’m a construction worker at a nuclear plant, how exactly are you useful again??
an ex of mine re-entered my life and tried (and couldve succeeded) at continuing to abuse and use me to get what they want, but their main motive the entire time was to find reasons to hate me again as their old "reasons" were proven false... now me and my friends all intend to cut them off finally
the genuine heartfelt advice at the end of the video really got me.... you're so right, it's not worth sticking around if you have any sort of doubt about whether the situation you're in is 100% safe - you shouldn't have to convince yourself it's all fine. i hope anyone who ever has to experience this can find help and recover safely, you're not alone
I was a C cup when I was twelve, and I had to wear really high collared shirts or else I always caught GROWN MEN staring at me. I still hate my body and am extreamly self concious about it because of that.
It also confuses me as to why these men want to live a lifestyle like hue Hefner and these playboy men ,but those same men who lived it talk about how they are lonely and that while it was fun they never got intimacy and now in their old age have no one, but the nurses paid to care for them. But these same men say women are going to die alone but it's women who have their friends and families in the end.
Also why does he assume us as women WANT to be hit on buy any and every guy. Like sir you may shoot your shot at any and every that walks by and want all women to want you cause you want all you can have (but you don't actually care about all these women you just wanna hit and run) but women could be minding their business and a man Holla and the girl kindly says no I'm good and they get yelled at, harassed, or worst.
So in childhood boys and girls can't be friends cause boys just wanna fuck, and girls just wanna friendzone men... at 11 sir ?🥴🙃 it's giving all I have for a friend is the bros and my fleshlight
dude iut feaked me out so bad when I saw my childhood stuffed animal on your couch 😥Ive had that same dog plush my whole life
Tldr of this podcast's philosophy:
• Women are sexual conquest property, not people at all
• ALL relationships are transactional, including friendship
• Being single is a moral failure, not a sign of self confidence and self reliance
I'm afab and present like a masculine woman/tomboy, I have men friends, we're not attracted to each other, we are all just friends. I even have a friend I DO have sex with, we still have a platonic relationship! These are not mutually exclusive!!
You have to be quite mature to have a friend with benefits and not fall for them. I fall for the first guy that treats me like a human being lmao
@@CarolaTesla that is so sad alsjaksjaa love yourself, you deserve the best! And yeah, you need to be in a good mind state and trust your friend a lot! It's definitely not for everyone
@@CarolaTesla I don't think it has to do with maturity at all! I had one proper fwb before and while I was physically attracted to him, I was not at all in a romantic way. We were just so different and I could have never seen us in a relationship. I don't know if you understand what I mean or if sex and feelings are that connected to you (or rather feelings and sex), making in impossible to not fall for a friend with benefits. Either way, I don't think will power and maturity could save me when it's a friend I could imagine myself being with. But I won't befriend someone like that anyways.
"even if that just means getting out of bed"
Something I had forgotten until now, I was walking through town (small town NZ) when I was 11 or 12 and some grown man yelled at me about my "bee stings", actually disgusting.
It's also possible not have to a more moderate or low libido and yet prefer to be non-monogamous because one is inclined to form emotional, romantic attachments to multiple people.
Brilliant advice here:
If you need to google whether something is abuse, just leave
I have a bunch of guy friends, granted im a lesbian but yk, i have female friends too. My first guy friend actually turned out to be gay and i turned out to be a lesbian which is fun
I‘m lesbian and same. I have guy friends that are straight and even female friends who are queer and I‘m still friends with all of them no problem. Idk why friendship is so looked down upon. And my straight guy friends I was friends with before I realised that I am gay and we were friends and still are.
@guardianofnon-sense751
Well every girl is technically gay so the only option giy has is to be friends and talk nothing more
Peace out
@@RUclipsmasrer wdym? Not every girl is techincally gay
@@HoodwinkFalls plus most searched po*n for women was lesbian plus in straight too the women is only shown so ofcourse women are jacking off by seeing other women only
Women don't have any interest in the male body and it is true
Plus most so called straight women experiment all the time and women get aroused by seeing other women only they are turn on for them that's why every girl is lesbian and it is a fact .
Straight women is just a myth
@@HoodwinkFalls @HoodwinkFalls plus most searched po*n for women was lesbian plus in straight too the women is only shown so ofcourse women are jacking off by seeing other women only
Women don't have any interest in the male body and it is true
Plus most so called straight women experiment all the time and women get aroused by seeing other women only they are turn on for them that's why every girl is lesbian and it is a fact .
Straight women is just a myth
14:20 I’m sorry those women have to be paid actors cause how aren’t they cackling at what he just said
This sometimes sounds like men complaining that a lot of women will not settle for less or the bare minimum from their partners.
I have a guy friend & we see each other as just friends because while we are both bi we just don't have that kind of attraction to each other. We just like each other's company just like all of my friends of various gender identities. Some of them we talk about horror movies & games with each other while others we talk about steampunk or Victorian fashion just because those are things we are interested in. Also the whole who is ur dream guy is a dumb question especially when u then use it say all woman like this or that. And that's not even to acknowledge the fact that not everyone wants to be a romantic &/or sexuality relationships & not everyone is going to date the opposite sex. The question to actually ask is what is ur standards for a someone u want to date? if they want to date at all. But they don't want to do that because it wouldn't fit their diluted narrative
I love your videos so much, Savannah! I honestly don't understand some men, sometimes :/
thank you for those kind words at the end. I also suffer from ptsd and everything you said resonated with me. have a wonderful day