I've maxed out my AM4 platform (with parts I can get/afford). from 1700X to 5900X, from X370 to Crosshair VIII X570 Dark Hero, Team Xtreem 2x32GB & an RTX 4090. After AM5 is all-matured and there will be AM6, I will do the same again. This is the best way for me (to save the money), rather than being an early adopter. Unless you have financial freedom...
@@LeePrzy I'm using 5900X + 4090 playing in 4K 144Hz, no bottleneck at all. With 3070 the GPU will be the one holding back especially in higher res. Though it's not something to worry about.
@@attafwrd ok will probably start saving thanks, I got a cpu first becouse I had a ryzen 3, I got a motherbourd and cpu 570 and ryzen 9 a months before am5 and am trying to make the most out of it but my pc makes me mad looking at it becouse I think about my am4 pc that costs as much as a better am5 equivalent
@@LeePrzy your rig is fine, any extra horsepower your cpu has over the 3090 is used on your daily activities. I usually run a browser, steam, gog, epic store at the same time as a game so a good cpu is needed. I have a 3700X :D. I am not sure if you upgrade to a 4090 you will end up with a gpu bottleneck, so you might think saving the money for a new system (AM6 or intel) in 2 to 5 years time, instead. And, yes there are better cheaper options out there, but would you trade the good fun you had with your PC (ie not having a PC all this time) for waiting till today to get one because there are cheaper options today? I wouldn't, its good to pay a premium to start enjoying now ❤
Nice cpu upgrade. We're the same boat. I upgraded my cpu too, from 2700 to 5900x around 2 years ago. I'm using asus strix x570 128gb corsair 3200mhz Amd sapphire 6800xt 😁 Cheers!
I'm finally upgrading my tired ryzen 5 3k to the ryzen 9 5900x. Upgrading the ram to 32gb and reusing the 6600 xt oc I've been using for the past year.
Anyone looking to upgrade from Zen+/Zen 2 to a Zen 3 R9 CPU needs to make sure they have a good mobo. 142w stock PPT. B450 and lower boards will likely burn out within a year. I was warned of this but didn't believe it. I figured "it'll throttle if it needs to." Nah, 9 months later, an Asus STRIX B450-F Gaming II popped a mosfet. Now I have an Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming WiFi II. Way beefier VRM set up on it. I think running PBO a few times may have led to my previous board dying, I dunno. Now I run PBO in the form of Asus' preset "APE" or Asus Performance Enhancement which is 1000w PPT/1000a TDC/180a EDC and that 180a EDC limit is enough to let it hit 200 watts. It COULD pull far more. I mean, each core can hit 22-24 watts on an AVX2 single core load... so you do the math lol.
AM4 is a truly amazing platform . I have an ASUS x370 prime pro, and I started with a 1500x, to a 2700x, to a 3900x and now to a 5950x, all on the same motherboard! The first two were sold off, now the 3900x is my file,Plex and vm server, on a b450 board I bought used 😂
Which Bios version did u use when u updated to the 5950x? Also, did you need to change any Bios settings? I have the same board and recently tried updating to the 5800x but Win 10 wouldn't boot.
@@AndyMacMPCclub I just used the latest bios available at the time. I just loaded the default settings, no tweaking. Sorry, I'm not much help, it just worked for me?
The water cooler if old will get fried with the 5900x i went from 3600 to 5900x and i instantly started having problems turn out the cpu was overheating change water cooler and fixed the problem.
It seems upgrading from a 2700X to a 5900X is popular - I did exactly that a couple months ago. It had been a while since I swapped the CPU of my main rig without touching the rest (last time was on Socket 7 - last century), but I still got quite a thrill out of making a 5 years old machine still competitive for the next 3-4 years with only a single component swap. To be fair, I had already upgraded the GPU (RX480 to RX6600XT) and added RAM (16 to 32), so it's not exactly the same machine, but still...
I'm thankful for the community pushback on board manufacturers to support the newer chips. We were promised a 5 year socket and thankfully that's what we got. Most systems I've swapped CPUs in were used SFF PCs with lower end CPUs. It was a good feeling to have the option to upgrade to the 5900x
@@ibanez3434 I think the 5900x while not being the "best" is one of the best jack of all trades processors for AM4. It has plenty of speed, lots of threads, and a lot of cache. Is it the best AM4 gaming chip? No, that would likely be the 3800x3D. Is it the most powerful for video editing? No, that would be the 5950x. But for someone like me who does a bit of everything I think it's the best option.
Nice upgrade. If you can go to the 5950x to future proof your pc system. 64gigs of ram would be nice. I'm building an AM4 system and I'm going all in due to the AM4 prices are getting cheaper.
I went from a ryzen 5 4500 to a ryzen 9 5900x and it took out every cpu bottleneck i had and stays in 60°C range when gaming ive seen it up to 75°C when i was downloading big games or video editing. All n all peefect cpu for someone who wants to game and more. Mine is paired with a 4060ti 8gb. Works really well
@@ibanez3434ive got ryzen 9 5900x too .. did notice that issue with the cpu temps .. what helped fix it is turn it off from 100% to 95% in the maximum processor state within the windows power plan .. with that under mid level load .. runs between 35 to 45°
Loved the video, just bought a 5900x for $275AUD a few days ago myself. MSI B450 Tomahawk with -30 undervolt and loves it with CB score of 215XX. Cooler is a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE with max temp I've seen at 78'c (room was 26'c). Hope yours is a good undervolter as well and can highly recommend that cooler! Was about $60AUD on Ebay and it has 7 heat pipes whilst the other newer Thermal;right duel towers only have 6 ;)
Made a couple different steps over the last few years... 2700X -> 3800X -> 5800X -> 5950X MSI GTX 1070 SH -> Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super -> Aorus M 4070Ti Of course the old parts have a practical family trickle down upgrade path too.
@@PedroVanDust Such is the way of Computers. Pretty sure we all build our systems & get as close as we can with the tech we can afford... but honestly there's no such thing as a perfectly matched system with no bottlenecks anywhere.
I've held onto my 2700x for almost 4 years now. I'll just save up and get a 5800X3D since I mainly game - it should hold me well until I make the switch to AM5.
@@DGCastell I will swich to AM5 in about 2 jears, when the prices ar getting more raisonable and Mainboards won't start getting on fire! (Asus) I went to the 5900x because i do render Videos and bottleneck issues.. 5800X3D is a Beast of a CPU, but not that futureproof. My 5900x with my RTX 3080 are not bad at all for gaming.... ;-)
Hey thanks for the video, I also upgraded to the 5900x a few months ago, I had to replace my cooler as well, I decided to go with the NZXT Kracken, it works great now. High temps are normal on these processors.
got at 5950x. not playing any AAA games at all. i ve set my CPU to 3.8 GHz @ 1.070V, its prime95 AVX2 enabled small ftt stable. For cinebench 23multicore i actualy gain 1k points to 25k compared to Stock using PBO defaults (as the stock power limit limits the 16 cores to around 3.7GHz for this usecase). For singlecore i lose ~300 down to 1300 points. But the thing doesnt boost irresponsible during light and medium workloads and saves around 30-60% watts, lots of temps and lots of noise as fans can stay pretty slow. The newest game i play is Fallout76 (with 1080TI, 1440p) and the difference is around the following: 3.8GHz, 1.07V: ~70 FPS 1% lows ~55 Watts CPU power draw vs 4.7 - 4.9 GHz PBO default (main thread, multiple other threads with around 4 GHz) ~ 85 FPS 1% lows ~ 125 Watts CPU power draw ~ hotter and noisier, but dont remember exactly main use case is software developement, software tests, compiling. and a little bit video editing (though less then even the occasional gaming). and for these. So for me personally I kind of dont see any difference between running PBO with up to 5 GHz single core, or 3.8GHz all core. but i do like low temps and almost zero noise, less energy waste and now that summer is coming, less heat
I run a Ryzen 9 5900x, X570, 64GB DDR4-3200 (I run virtual machines), RTX 2080 Super. I started my AM4 journey with a Ryzen 3 2200G and 8GB DDR-2400, and now that x370 board has a 2700x, 32GB DDR4-3200, and a RX 590 that I gave to my youngest daughter. My other daughter who is an adult now has a Ryzen 5 5500, 32GB DDR4-3600, and a GTX 1660 6GB.
I would get a DeepCool AK620 CPU Air Cooler for the CPU you have, its a great cooler games such as cyberpunk runabout 53 -59 degrees Celsius. it has a big heatsink and two big fans on the cooler. I have the same CPU as you. I also upgraded from the ryzen 7 2700x that is a great cpu as well. I do have 48 gig of ddr 4 ram as well, and rtx 460 ti.
I think the AIO is having problems due to its positioning. I think it would be better if the radiator was upside down compared to its current position or the top of the case. This is because any air is now sucked to the pump but in the other positions any bubbles would stay in the radiator. I can't see if you can do either due to space constraints or hose length.
The graphics card is in the way of inverting the rad. Air in the system is only a problem when I move the case around, once it settles in, all the air sits in the top of the rad and doesn't cause issues
The pump is in the CPU block the end tanks in the rad are higher than the pump. Even if the rad was 1cm higher than the pump, it'd still be the highest point
Glad I found this video since you seem to have done the upgrade I'm looking to do. From a 2700x to a 5900x. My main reason to upgrade was UI lag when editing with a 4k file. I don't care about render times, but playback while editing is important to me. Have you been getting an UI locks when editing 4k?
I just edit in 1080p. Others might have some insight. I did have some issues with playback when I was editing from my fileserver, I bought a dedicated scratch SSD and that helped a ton. May look into playback settings too and have a CPU meter up when editing and see if the CPU could be the bottleneck
We're in the same boat, i'm also about to upgrade from the 2700x, my plans are "only" a 5800x or an 5800x3D, depending on the prices. It's actually insane that the 5800x3d costs the most out of these 3 CPUs. I'll wait a few more weeks, as i think the prices will drop significantly. Also, just upgraded from an Aorus 1080TI, to a Strix 2080TI, and its a night and day difference. Btw, now is the time to upgrade your 1080 too, there are great deals to have. Sold my old 1080ti for 200, and got a Strix 2080ti for 250. I'll do the same with the CPU/mobo combo, its massive upgrades for next to nothing
I'm still using my original cooler in the video. I'm not as tuned into PC stuff as I used to be, this was more of a vlog video. There were several suggestions in the comments of this video and you could also check around forums or reddit. I'll eventually upgrade mine but for now it does ok, just idles high
If you're looking for a good air cooler, the Noctua D15 is perfect. Had similar issues with temps, now I get 38C max in idle, 75C full load. VR games and games in general have seen a huge increase in fps and stability combined with my 3080. Definitely recommend the upgrade.
@@inventivityThe Noctua D15 is perfect if you pair it with a Corsair 5000D Airflow or a similar case, i have an i7-12700K and it iddles at 24 degrees.
I just bought a 5900x for 1 of my beater systems. Got a nasty deal on CPU/MB because I had lots of high end DDR4 laying around. Now that I look at it, I think I'll have way too many systems to babysit (grunt)
Before 3 months I bought this cpu I had the 3600 which for my use and my games was perfect and no need to upgrade it. But I had to build a new computer for other place to work also there and I don't like the laptop solutions and I had all the components except the cpu and motherboard, so I bought the 5900x for my main system and one chip motherboard for the new system with the old 3600 Now the 5900x for cooling solution I use the BE Quit Dark rock Pro 4 (air cooling) in case you don't need to over run the clocks of the cpu is very good , in IDLE is 37 decrees cellulous and on stress for 15 min 83 max which I think is very good. The spikes of the temp I don't have them like yours.
I built a new PC in november 2021 and the specs are pretty comparable, 5800x, 32GB DD4 3600mhz, GTX 1070 (moved from old system). It's going to make a massive difference with encoding videos and just general productivity tasks. If you're more into gaming I'd recommend the x3D CPUs, but for general purpose you can't really go wrong with a 5900x. There are some general pieces of advice I can give you: 1) Never clean a PC with an air compressor. Atmospheric air contains a lot of moisture, when compressing that turns into water and gets mixed with oil and gets shot out all over the electronic parts of your pc. Next to that it generates a bunch of static electricity and you might spin the fans a bunch which can blow up the speed controllers on the motherboard. 2) Your CPU radiator is upside down. Since the tubes are now above the cpu pump, it means that you will pool airbubbles inside your cpu pump and in the tubes connecting to the radiator. You want the entrance/exit tubes on the bottom end so that the highest part of the loop is the reservoir (end piece) inside the radiator. 3) These CPUs run incredibly hot but as long as you stay below like 90 oC it should be fine
Like I said in the video I'm not really into gaming and most of the games I do play would be fine with a much older / slower CPU. The upgrade was for productivity work and cut some of my render times in half. It will also handle video with higher resolution / bitrate once I make some upgrades in that area. 1. I've used air compressors to blow the dust from PC's for over 20 years, not just at home but at work. Static electricity is more of an issue with vacuums, I've never had a single issue there. While it probably does introduce some moisture I'd say it's negligible. In arcade machine repair I've scrubbed motherboards with 409, rinsed with tap water, used an air compressor to get most of the water out then set them in the sun to dry. If there is an issue with the air compressor it can have more water in the system, this one seems fine. Also in the video I'm using my other hand to hold the fan blades in place while cleaning them, I know better than to blast them to insane RPMs. 2. The radiator placement is somewhat sub-optimal but not really an issue here. I only have issues when I move the case around and the air is disturbed. Besides that I basically never have any pump whine or gurgling noises. The air is trapped in the top of the rad, which is the highest point in the loop. I don't really have a better option with this case / GPU combination. If I flipped the tubes to the bottom I'd be more worried about the tubes pulling down on the GPU and having tighter bends which is not recommended for the type of hoses used in this AIO. 3. The temps are fine for this CPU, I guess I'm just used to running old Xeon CPUs. Even after overclocking the snot out of them they always ran cool compared to these new Ryzen chips. I may look in to undervolting the CPU or adjusting other settings which could help. But all in all it's fine.
I have a x470 taichi asrock. Think I'll be good for this chip next year. Was thinking more like 58003d If any1 wishes to advise, please drop your comments, presently i have a 1800x😅
Lol the “average joe” comment near the end rlly rings true. I’d been wading through the sea of overproduced affiliate nonsense, spamming a million different keywords to try to find something authentic until I finally stumbled across this vid. And it was great!
If your cooling and tweaking is really good then the 5900x is a better value than 5950x because the 7nm process is more robust. Put 120mm x 38mm industrial fans on the rad and that chip will fly!
That's really one of the reasons, I bought a 5900x and not a 5950x..... btw... I'm cooling with AIO... Be quiet! Silent Loop 2 240mm... I know.... Is a little bit overkill, but just fine for OC!
I've not really had any temp issues with my 5900x since upgrading from a 1700 and i'm using an old Be Quiet air cooler thats probably nearly 10 years + at this point and the highest i saw my temps go with a Cinebench run was 65 degree ish. Normally around 40-50 for me. I do have a couple of Noctua industrial fans pointed at the intake of the cooler, so that'd be helping the temps
Have a Scythe Fuma 2 for my 3600XT (overclocked) in my old PC For my 5900x i switched to a AIO... Be quiet! Silent Loop 2 240mm (temp, CPU not jet overclocked at about 39 degree isch.... max. 62...) Will play with OC to get at about 80 degrees at max. load)
I use a artic freezer!! 280 on my 5900x and idle temps are around 30³C with ambiant 22³C. I did find your paste to be a bit on the sparse site. and off course having the rad to be with the hoses on the top gives a problem with air and thus much lesser cooling capacity. so maybe try to change that if possible, but seeing the 1080 being that large I think that might be a problem with the hoses. But a 5900x should definitely be running a lot cooler then you have it. R23 here was 22680 with my artic liquid freezer II 280 using the offset montage. so maybe that is something that might help.
Upgraded my daughter's pc from r7 1700, x370 killer sli ac, rx580 8gb, 8 gb RAM, 256gb wd black nvme m.2 3rd gen, 500gb samsung pro ssd, dark rock pro 4 cooler, dual boot windows 10 pro, and linux mint cinnamon desktop, (built at the WORST time ever to build a pc due to price gouging) to a r9 5900x, 6700xt 12gb, 32GB 3600 RAM, 1tb wd black SN850, inside a custom phantek p400 case with 10 backlit acrylic panels in black and white. My gamer son in law and grandson love it!!!🤣So does my daughter of course...we ridin' AM4 till the wheels fall off!!!😁
Wait, is your 2700X autographed by Lisa herself? So this is an Anniversary Edition one, that's a collector's item! If I were you I would keep it for another decade when it becomes rare.
i dont know much about aios, but i do know about pumps, that noise is cavitation, when that occurs you have little fluid movement, time to get a new aio, or better yet get away from watercooling altogether. Noctua D15h is a very good air cooler!
Maybe I should have spent more time on the conclusion of this video. After a little while the air settled at the top of the radiator and everything is working fine, "for now". It's only an issue when I move the PC around. I wouldn't be surprised if I got another year or two out of it. I'm not against air coolers, it's mostly an aesthetic choice for me. If I did go with air Noctua would be one of my first choices
@@ibanez3434 just to share, under heavy load, so far so good with 1 fan on Noctua d15, one 120mm exit fan. Nothing above 75C. Ryzen 9 5900x, evga 3080 10 gig, Crosshair hero 8 mobo, 32 gigs Trident Z duo at 3200. When I finally dud the swap, I realized how lucky my decision was, fortunately my case has a basement that isolated my power supply, there was a small stain on the metal. My pump had just started to leak. To be fair, the machine was never shut off and that aio served me well for 6+ years
powerful cpu perfect for video editors ang rendering for AM4 platform. I do suggest to shift to a aircooler. I replaced my AIO using the same cpu and the temps are better
Thats awesome! I currently have a 2700x and with windows 10 support coming to an end next year, im also looking at a 5900x... I think that supports windows 11. Also i think we have the same case! Corsair 400C?
I still have my 5900x running it at 4.6ghz 1,33ish volts sometimes 1.37 for like 4.7 or 4.8ghz if i were to try it. But it's basically a 13600k. Super nice since Ive had it for a few years
I've just bought a RYZEN 9 5900x to replace my RYZEN 5 3600xt, my AIO will be mounted better than that though so as not to kill the pump with trapped air.
First off, Thank you for making this video. I think you may have answered my questions in the video but I want to ask just so I have more clarity. I'm a video editor who needed an upgrade to handle 4K editing within DR18. I currently have a Ryzen 7 2700 processor with Wraith Spire LED Cooler. Motherboard is the ASUS Prime B450 -Plus. I upgraded from a GTX1660 to an RTX 3060 and went from 32 GB RAM to 64GB. But my Render times are taking 25% longer and I'm seeing the same lag when editing 4K and no proxies as I had with the old GPU and less RAM. I'm thinking the processor is the problem at this point. If I bump up to the Ryzen 9 5900x should that fix the bottlenecking and make everything much more speedy? Also, will I need a different motherboard to handle the new processor? Sorry for so many questions, I just don't know enough about builds (and don't totally understand it all lol) Thank you!
I would think the CPU would be the next thing to upgrade, the single core performance alone is way faster. I've never done any 4k editing so I can't specifically say this would fix everything. There are always settings that could be to blame, I sill have weird issues I haven't solved. I would post on Reddit or a computer forum and get a few opinions. they will know much more than I will. Best of luck!
I'm running an Intel lga 1200, on a MSI ace gold edition motherboard. Everything was working just fine till one day I went to boot up and I got a C1 error code. I just got new ddr4 ram to see if thats the issue which would suck because I had 64gb of ram and now im having to downgrade to 32gb. If that doesn't work I purchased a new MSI MPG Z590 Gaming Carbon WiFi Gaming Motherboard... I'm running the 10th gen Intel chip and if this works I may just return the motherboard. Sell the Intel chip, and see if I can get a shop to fix the msi ace gold edition motherboard. Then I'll sell that for an AMD chip and amd mobo. I have a gigabyte rtx 4080 gpu and a 1000 watt asus Thor psu. I'm waiting on a new case but my Intel chip always feels like it's running hotter than usual. I cleaned it out and put new thermal paste and that's when I got the c1 error. After swapping to just 2 ram chips I got an error code that says cannot find boot drive. But my monitor won't turn on. I got a display port cable instead of the hdmi cable hoping that might fight my screen issue. It just sucks because I have 3 m.2 drives and I honestly cannot remember which drive has my windows loaded :/
As a boomer, I don't trust liquid coolers but I'm making the same upgrade. Maxing out my AM4 with the Ryzen 9 5900. Can you recommend a good air cooler.
I ended up getting the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE from recommendations in the comments of this video. It's louder and runs at about the same temperature as my AIO but I won't have to worry about the pump failing 🤷♂️. I really can't give good recommendations at this point, I keep my PC running but don't really follow PC's as closely as I used to
i use thermalright assassing king SE (single tower air cooler with 120mm fan) with 5950x, but i also have very good case airflow. 3x120mm fron in and 2x120mm top out, 1x120mm rear out. And nothing blocking between intake and outtake fans (except CPU cooler). With 5950x at stock settings i get to max 72°C on cinebench r23 multicore. 85° is max thermal throttle threshold, so still room left
@@californiadreams9408 no problem in cyberpunk, max 70° when using stock settings with default PBO. 72°C max in cinebench. dont have any newer game. like i said, it could go to 85° and still be fine, though i wouldnt want it to sit there. I could even raise the PBO limits by around 30% and still be under 80°C for cinebench (which basically simulates the heaviest (realistic) workload)
My old 2700x runs WAY hotter than my 5900x but the 2700x also has a Wraith Prism on it still. The Vetroo V5 cooler was intended to be a temporary cooler but it works very well so I never bothered upgrading. If I do have to tear it down for any reason it will get a bigger PSU. I would probably get a 850w PSU and a Thermalright Peerless assassin SE RGB.
Do you know why your PC was making that noise? Your cooler is put in wrong the hoses should be on the bottom and you should mounted on the top. It cannot circulate the liquid like that.
From what I can see your cooler is sucking hot air from your rad and pulling it into your system and you only seem to have one fan in the rear for exhausts. That's why your running those temps. My 5900x clocked @ 4.4 on all cores doesn't even hit 65c at full load (video editing) with my Thermaltake 240. You need a bigger case. 🙂
That's been debunked many times, a radiator can be used as an intake without causing issues. There are two additional exhaust fans at the top of the case as well. It does run hot but it has served my needs for all this time. I'll eventually make some kind of upgrade but for now all my money goes to Lego 😅
You didnt have a problem with installing the new CPU? I have an aorus elite x570, updated my bios where the 5000 series is compatible.. but i got boot loops... what might be the problem?...thanks
I didn't have any issues at all, you could try posting on a forum for advice such as Linus Tech Tips. I just haven't been very involved with computers in recent years
I went from 3900X to 5900X for $269, brand new from Microcenter, and there is an amazing difference. Your settings are not revealing it's true potential. Undervolt it. I am running all core 4.7GHz at 1.267V and my temps during Cinebench wont go about 65 C and I scored 23195. I choose to stay here as it is 24/7 safe for this chip. I can go 4.8GHz at 1.315V but that is too much and I get into the 70C range. It may be safe, but I like to be safer. When you game, you go back in the bios and just go default and use the Ryzen Master to OC a couple of cores and there I get 4.94GHz.
For your AIO cooler radiator, it's important to put the hoses at the bottom if installed vertically, if not it will damage the pump from running it dry or worse, allowing an expensive cpu to overheat, if the hoses are at the top while vertically mounted, it creates an air pocket if and when coolant levels are low due to long term dissipation. 🤝💯
It's been fine for years, probably has a few years left. I don't have the option of flipping the rad, but it will be fine. It's only an issue when the case gets moved around, otherwise the air pocket is at the top just above the tubes
@@ibanez3434 Your gpu doesn't give you much room too work with, but the good thing is that most of these aio coolers nowadays can be refilled easily, all that's needed is a little screwdriver, a large syringe without a needle and some clear coolant, there are a few videos out there on how to do it if it comes down to it, either way nice build bro.❤
I have a Ryzen 5600g CPU with a rtx 3070ti. Should I upgrade to a 5700x or a 5800 x3d. Or should I just wait till I build my next computer. I love VR and play games on my 4k tv or 165hz 1080p monitor. Do I need the extra cash?
There's so many factors there it's kind of hard to give a recommendation. It would depend on the games you play and whether they make use of higher core counts. Again I'm not much of a gamer these days myself. I would try to find examples of CPU comparisons with games that you play, it may not make much of a difference at all.
@@gaminginstilllife9429 For 2023 games for your TV + Monitor, you don't need neither more CPU or GPU power. You're at peak performance bro ;) The 9000 Series on platform AM5, would be the way go. Hopefully by then they'll fix all the glitchiness with DDR5, power hungry CPU-s, etc ... If AM5 is going to follow suite on AM4, than yeah, the last generation of that socket is going to be really-really good. ALso prices ... Everything is horrible expensive. Manufacturers didn't get the memo, that the pandemic is over!
I've considered it. I know to get good performance they are often quite big. It's partially just an aesthetic choice. Noise could also be an issue with cheaper air solutions.
@@ibanez3434 i recently went to a 5900X , i am using the Noctua d15. i can have 2 games up and running, a download going , and watching a video, with only 1 of the 2 fans that come with it. im not going above 78C
AIO coolers are problematic. One reason why you're having problems with air in the system is the fact that the connections between the pump and the radiator are at the top of the radiator. If they were at the bottom, the air, which is lighter than the liquid, rises to the top of the radiator. Flipping the radiator would minimize the problem. It just looks like your GPU is in the way preventing you from doing that. There are fan coolers that are just as good as that AIO on the market today for less than an AIO.
Nice - I have a 2700 I may upgrade to 5900x - I also want to double my memory to motherboard max of 64gb which requires replacing all 4 of my sticks :(
Yeah I'm maxed out at 32gb with 4 sticks. I run a ton of programs at once but even then if I fill up my RAM it's probably just Windows being goofy and time for a reboot anyway
It was an open box listing for $289 on eBay. They had 13 but looks like they sold all of them. There seems to be plenty of listings around that price, some that are brand new. I probably could have got it cheaper being more patient and bidding on auctions or waiting for a lower buy-it-now listing
In my opinion 5900x and 5950x is more future proof than its more powerful brothers like 5800x3d and 5700x3d, especially if you are switching from 6 core CPUs.
Their website says its supported with the correct BIOS version. I don't have experience with that board but there may be other videos or forum posts with folks who have. There may be pitfalls I haven't thought of
I've heard conflicting info all over the place, but at least one source said the tubing used in my AIO tends to evaporate the most compared to other material. I only have a problem when I move the case around, it's been running great for a week now. I'll eventually buy another one, they are just so much more expensive than they used to be
Lol upgraded from the same cpu updated bios bought the R9 5900x with the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB Rev 4 version and G Skill Trident Z Neo cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb oced to cl14 3800mhz stable soooooo 😊.
5900x will run hot, even with a 360 AiO/big ass air cooler. Would recommend checking out undervolting/curve optimizer and see how far you can push it. I got my curve down -25 on all cores running stable for almost a year now on a 240mm AiO (Lian Li Galahad). Never going over 70c with almost identical performance as running PBO enabled out of the box @ 85-87c.
Arctic Cool 360 Nothing Gets Temps on AMD Chips Cooled Better IMO. The Videos on them Are Accurate, They also Have a VRM Fan in The Pump and it Does Work as Well . Strange How People Over look the Best Result for Other name Bran Components ! I am only Running a R 7 5700x 8 Cores 16 threads, and My CPU averages Mining on Nice Hash 50 C . I would Not Test out my Rig Bitcoin Mining, if it were Not Running So Darned Cold to Start with ! My Graphics Card is only a Gigabyte RX 5700XT Gaming OC 8 Gb ddr6, Testing I Run a UFO in all Fields including Gaming, The Only thing Maxed Out on my X570 Aorus Ultra MB is My Graphics Card , I have a lot of Upgrading To Do , But I really don't need More than UFO Ratings across The Board, LOL ...
I know that, but my brain doesn't. I literally fixed my mistake in the video with text, but just realized the title of the video is wrong 🤦♂️. So thanks for the comment 😅
@@ibanez3434 replace your AIO. I am running a 5900X on a 120mm AIO in an SFF build, and temperatures only go up to 70 degC while running Cinebench R23. Normal usage sees temperatures at or below 52 degC. Also, I undervolted my CPU by 0.1volts and limited the overclock to 4.0 GHz. My Cinebench score was still 19,793 points. It's above 21,000 points at full overclock.
i would not go with this cpu unless it is available for around 200-250$ !! its simply too slow now in 2023 and cannot keep in nothing even vs 13600kf while costs more
So I should have saved $50 on the CPU and built an entire new system? That makes no sense. This was a drop in upgrade to a system I built a few years ago and was a very substantial increase in performance.
Those are rookie numbers, I upgraded from a 2012 built i5 2500k system only in 2021. As long as your graphics card holds up, there isn't that much reason to upgrade anymore.
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I've maxed out my AM4 platform (with parts I can get/afford). from 1700X to 5900X, from X370 to Crosshair VIII X570 Dark Hero, Team Xtreem 2x32GB & an RTX 4090. After AM5 is all-matured and there will be AM6, I will do the same again. This is the best way for me (to save the money), rather than being an early adopter. Unless you have financial freedom...
Get what you mean. Doing the same to my B450m
Is your cpu a bottleneck I got a 3070 and ryzen 9 5900x and it seems my gpu is the bottleneck
@@LeePrzy I'm using 5900X + 4090 playing in 4K 144Hz, no bottleneck at all. With 3070 the GPU will be the one holding back especially in higher res. Though it's not something to worry about.
@@attafwrd ok will probably start saving thanks, I got a cpu first becouse I had a ryzen 3, I got a motherbourd and cpu 570 and ryzen 9 a months before am5 and am trying to make the most out of it but my pc makes me mad looking at it becouse I think about my am4 pc that costs as much as a better am5 equivalent
@@LeePrzy your rig is fine, any extra horsepower your cpu has over the 3090 is used on your daily activities. I usually run a browser, steam, gog, epic store at the same time as a game so a good cpu is needed. I have a 3700X :D. I am not sure if you upgrade to a 4090 you will end up with a gpu bottleneck, so you might think saving the money for a new system (AM6 or intel) in 2 to 5 years time, instead. And, yes there are better cheaper options out there, but would you trade the good fun you had with your PC (ie not having a PC all this time) for waiting till today to get one because there are cheaper options today? I wouldn't, its good to pay a premium to start enjoying now ❤
I'm using 2700x now, and want to upgrade to 5800x or 5900x. Thanks for this video =)
60C at idle means your AIO is going bad. Mine idles at 30-40
This is the reason I'm not a big fan of AIO's.. He can under clock this CPU
Nice cpu upgrade. We're the same boat. I upgraded my cpu too, from 2700 to 5900x around 2 years ago.
I'm using asus strix x570 128gb corsair 3200mhz Amd sapphire 6800xt
😁 Cheers!
I'm finally upgrading my tired ryzen 5 3k to the ryzen 9 5900x. Upgrading the ram to 32gb and reusing the 6600 xt oc I've been using for the past year.
Anyone looking to upgrade from Zen+/Zen 2 to a Zen 3 R9 CPU needs to make sure they have a good mobo. 142w stock PPT. B450 and lower boards will likely burn out within a year. I was warned of this but didn't believe it. I figured "it'll throttle if it needs to." Nah, 9 months later, an Asus STRIX B450-F Gaming II popped a mosfet. Now I have an Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming WiFi II. Way beefier VRM set up on it. I think running PBO a few times may have led to my previous board dying, I dunno.
Now I run PBO in the form of Asus' preset "APE" or Asus Performance Enhancement which is 1000w PPT/1000a TDC/180a EDC and that 180a EDC limit is enough to let it hit 200 watts. It COULD pull far more. I mean, each core can hit 22-24 watts on an AVX2 single core load... so you do the math lol.
Your motherboard is very important on these high end CPU.
AM4 is a truly amazing platform . I have an ASUS x370 prime pro, and I started with a 1500x, to a 2700x, to a 3900x and now to a 5950x, all on the same motherboard! The first two were sold off, now the 3900x is my file,Plex and vm server, on a b450 board I bought used 😂
Which Bios version did u use when u updated to the 5950x? Also, did you need to change any Bios settings? I have the same board and recently tried updating to the 5800x but Win 10 wouldn't boot.
@@AndyMacMPCclub I just used the latest bios available at the time. I just loaded the default settings, no tweaking. Sorry, I'm not much help, it just worked for me?
The water cooler if old will get fried with the 5900x i went from 3600 to 5900x and i instantly started having problems turn out the cpu was overheating change water cooler and fixed the problem.
It seems upgrading from a 2700X to a 5900X is popular - I did exactly that a couple months ago. It had been a while since I swapped the CPU of my main rig without touching the rest (last time was on Socket 7 - last century), but I still got quite a thrill out of making a 5 years old machine still competitive for the next 3-4 years with only a single component swap.
To be fair, I had already upgraded the GPU (RX480 to RX6600XT) and added RAM (16 to 32), so it's not exactly the same machine, but still...
I'm thankful for the community pushback on board manufacturers to support the newer chips. We were promised a 5 year socket and thankfully that's what we got. Most systems I've swapped CPUs in were used SFF PCs with lower end CPUs. It was a good feeling to have the option to upgrade to the 5900x
@@ibanez3434 Originally, it was only 3 years - AMD expanded it because of manufacturers and community pushback. Also, because DDR5 was late.
@@ibanez3434 I think the 5900x while not being the "best" is one of the best jack of all trades processors for AM4. It has plenty of speed, lots of threads, and a lot of cache. Is it the best AM4 gaming chip? No, that would likely be the 3800x3D. Is it the most powerful for video editing? No, that would be the 5950x. But for someone like me who does a bit of everything I think it's the best option.
Nice upgrade. If you can go to the 5950x to future proof your pc system. 64gigs of ram would be nice. I'm building an AM4 system and I'm going all in due to the AM4 prices are getting cheaper.
I went from a ryzen 5 4500 to a ryzen 9 5900x and it took out every cpu bottleneck i had and stays in 60°C range when gaming ive seen it up to 75°C when i was downloading big games or video editing. All n all peefect cpu for someone who wants to game and more. Mine is paired with a 4060ti 8gb. Works really well
my ryzen 9 5900x runs hot too, same temp as yours, even with the biggest air cooler you can get. It's normal apparently.
What surprised me most was how quick it got up to temperature, It's crazy to move a window around the screen and see it rise by 3C 😅
@@ibanez3434 I've got Ryzen 9 5900X too .. is that sustainable for the long term?
@@ibanez3434ive got ryzen 9 5900x too .. did notice that issue with the cpu temps .. what helped fix it is turn it off from 100% to 95% in the maximum processor state within the windows power plan .. with that under mid level load .. runs between 35 to 45°
Loved the video, just bought a 5900x for $275AUD a few days ago myself. MSI B450 Tomahawk with -30 undervolt and loves it with CB score of 215XX. Cooler is a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE with max temp I've seen at 78'c (room was 26'c). Hope yours is a good undervolter as well and can highly recommend that cooler! Was about $60AUD on Ebay and it has 7 heat pipes whilst the other newer Thermal;right duel towers only have 6 ;)
Cinebench R23?
@@RTX7050 Yes sir.
Good Advice 👍👍
You blowing out that PC looked like a Cypress Hill concert
Made a couple different steps over the last few years...
2700X -> 3800X -> 5800X -> 5950X
MSI GTX 1070 SH -> Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super -> Aorus M 4070Ti
Of course the old parts have a practical family trickle down upgrade path too.
I went fom 3800XT to 5900x ( GPU upgrde RTX 3080 12 GB)
Bottleneck issue...
Best regards
Peter
@@PedroVanDust Such is the way of Computers.
Pretty sure we all build our systems & get as close as we can with the tech we can afford...
but honestly there's no such thing as a perfectly matched system with no bottlenecks anywhere.
I've held onto my 2700x for almost 4 years now. I'll just save up and get a 5800X3D since I mainly game - it should hold me well until I make the switch to AM5.
@@DGCastell
I will swich to AM5 in about 2 jears, when the prices ar getting more raisonable and Mainboards won't start getting on fire! (Asus)
I went to the 5900x because i do render Videos and bottleneck issues.. 5800X3D is a Beast of a CPU, but not that futureproof.
My 5900x with my RTX 3080 are not bad at all for gaming.... ;-)
@@PedroVanDust That's the best call. Right now it's not a good time to jump to AM5 given all those points.
Hey thanks for the video, I also upgraded to the 5900x a few months ago, I had to replace my cooler as well, I decided to go with the NZXT Kracken, it works great now. High temps are normal on these processors.
Thanks for watching! I was really surprised with how many views this video has gotten 😅
Yes.. Running at 90c over the years will burn out the CPU. Under clock it to reduce Temps
got at 5950x. not playing any AAA games at all. i ve set my CPU to 3.8 GHz @ 1.070V, its prime95 AVX2 enabled small ftt stable. For cinebench 23multicore i actualy gain 1k points to 25k compared to Stock using PBO defaults (as the stock power limit limits the 16 cores to around 3.7GHz for this usecase). For singlecore i lose ~300 down to 1300 points. But the thing doesnt boost irresponsible during light and medium workloads and saves around 30-60% watts, lots of temps and lots of noise as fans can stay pretty slow.
The newest game i play is Fallout76 (with 1080TI, 1440p) and the difference is around the following:
3.8GHz, 1.07V:
~70 FPS 1% lows
~55 Watts CPU power draw
vs
4.7 - 4.9 GHz PBO default (main thread, multiple other threads with around 4 GHz)
~ 85 FPS 1% lows
~ 125 Watts CPU power draw
~ hotter and noisier, but dont remember exactly
main use case is software developement, software tests, compiling. and a little bit video editing (though less then even the occasional gaming). and for these. So for me personally I kind of dont see any difference between running PBO with up to 5 GHz single core, or 3.8GHz all core. but i do like low temps and almost zero noise, less energy waste and now that summer is coming, less heat
I run a Ryzen 9 5900x, X570, 64GB DDR4-3200 (I run virtual machines), RTX 2080 Super. I started my AM4 journey with a Ryzen 3 2200G and 8GB DDR-2400, and now that x370 board has a 2700x, 32GB DDR4-3200, and a RX 590 that I gave to my youngest daughter. My other daughter who is an adult now has a Ryzen 5 5500, 32GB DDR4-3600, and a GTX 1660 6GB.
I would get a DeepCool AK620 CPU Air Cooler for the CPU you have, its a great cooler games such as cyberpunk runabout 53 -59 degrees Celsius. it has a big heatsink and two big fans on the cooler. I have the same CPU as you. I also upgraded from the ryzen 7 2700x that is a great cpu as well. I do have 48 gig of ddr 4 ram as well, and rtx 460 ti.
I think the AIO is having problems due to its positioning. I think it would be better if the radiator was upside down compared to its current position or the top of the case. This is because any air is now sucked to the pump but in the other positions any bubbles would stay in the radiator. I can't see if you can do either due to space constraints or hose length.
The graphics card is in the way of inverting the rad. Air in the system is only a problem when I move the case around, once it settles in, all the air sits in the top of the rad and doesn't cause issues
The pump is in the CPU block the end tanks in the rad are higher than the pump. Even if the rad was 1cm higher than the pump, it'd still be the highest point
What your saying only matters for bottom mounted rads or in situations like the kraken m22. where the pump is in the rad
Glad I found this video since you seem to have done the upgrade I'm looking to do. From a 2700x to a 5900x. My main reason to upgrade was UI lag when editing with a 4k file. I don't care about render times, but playback while editing is important to me. Have you been getting an UI locks when editing 4k?
I just edit in 1080p. Others might have some insight. I did have some issues with playback when I was editing from my fileserver, I bought a dedicated scratch SSD and that helped a ton. May look into playback settings too and have a CPU meter up when editing and see if the CPU could be the bottleneck
We're in the same boat, i'm also about to upgrade from the 2700x, my plans are "only" a 5800x or an 5800x3D, depending on the prices. It's actually insane that the 5800x3d costs the most out of these 3 CPUs. I'll wait a few more weeks, as i think the prices will drop significantly. Also, just upgraded from an Aorus 1080TI, to a Strix 2080TI, and its a night and day difference. Btw, now is the time to upgrade your 1080 too, there are great deals to have. Sold my old 1080ti for 200, and got a Strix 2080ti for 250. I'll do the same with the CPU/mobo combo, its massive upgrades for next to nothing
Great channel, cheers!
Any suggestions for the best cooling system for the 5900x
I'm still using my original cooler in the video. I'm not as tuned into PC stuff as I used to be, this was more of a vlog video. There were several suggestions in the comments of this video and you could also check around forums or reddit. I'll eventually upgrade mine but for now it does ok, just idles high
a bit pricey but i have a kraken z63 aio cooler and its lasted me for 2 years no problems, but dont be fooled air coolers are just as good
If you're looking for a good air cooler, the Noctua D15 is perfect. Had similar issues with temps, now I get 38C max in idle, 75C full load. VR games and games in general have seen a huge increase in fps and stability combined with my 3080. Definitely recommend the upgrade.
@@inventivityThe Noctua D15 is perfect if you pair it with a Corsair 5000D Airflow or a similar case, i have an i7-12700K and it iddles at 24 degrees.
I just bought a 5900x for 1 of my beater systems. Got a nasty deal on CPU/MB because I had lots of high end DDR4 laying around. Now that I look at it, I think I'll have way too many systems to babysit (grunt)
Nice jump! :) I'm gonna change my CPU too from 2700x to 5900x.)) See what will happen)
I just put one of these CPU’s in yesterday had a Ryzen 5 3600. Installed a big Corsair h150i rgb cooler.
Before 3 months I bought this cpu I had the 3600 which for my use and my games was perfect and no need to upgrade it. But I had to build a new computer for other place to work also there and I don't like the laptop solutions and I had all the components except the cpu and motherboard, so I bought the 5900x for my main system and one chip motherboard for the new system with the old 3600 Now the 5900x for cooling solution I use the BE Quit Dark rock Pro 4 (air cooling) in case you don't need to over run the clocks of the cpu is very good , in IDLE is 37 decrees cellulous and on stress for 15 min 83 max which I think is very good. The spikes of the temp I don't have them like yours.
I love that asus mb. I just recently went from ryzen 1800x to ryzen 5800x3d bios up to date I just swapped the cpu's and bam.
I built a new PC in november 2021 and the specs are pretty comparable, 5800x, 32GB DD4 3600mhz, GTX 1070 (moved from old system). It's going to make a massive difference with encoding videos and just general productivity tasks. If you're more into gaming I'd recommend the x3D CPUs, but for general purpose you can't really go wrong with a 5900x.
There are some general pieces of advice I can give you:
1) Never clean a PC with an air compressor. Atmospheric air contains a lot of moisture, when compressing that turns into water and gets mixed with oil and gets shot out all over the electronic parts of your pc. Next to that it generates a bunch of static electricity and you might spin the fans a bunch which can blow up the speed controllers on the motherboard.
2) Your CPU radiator is upside down. Since the tubes are now above the cpu pump, it means that you will pool airbubbles inside your cpu pump and in the tubes connecting to the radiator. You want the entrance/exit tubes on the bottom end so that the highest part of the loop is the reservoir (end piece) inside the radiator.
3) These CPUs run incredibly hot but as long as you stay below like 90 oC it should be fine
Like I said in the video I'm not really into gaming and most of the games I do play would be fine with a much older / slower CPU. The upgrade was for productivity work and cut some of my render times in half. It will also handle video with higher resolution / bitrate once I make some upgrades in that area.
1. I've used air compressors to blow the dust from PC's for over 20 years, not just at home but at work. Static electricity is more of an issue with vacuums, I've never had a single issue there. While it probably does introduce some moisture I'd say it's negligible. In arcade machine repair I've scrubbed motherboards with 409, rinsed with tap water, used an air compressor to get most of the water out then set them in the sun to dry. If there is an issue with the air compressor it can have more water in the system, this one seems fine. Also in the video I'm using my other hand to hold the fan blades in place while cleaning them, I know better than to blast them to insane RPMs.
2. The radiator placement is somewhat sub-optimal but not really an issue here. I only have issues when I move the case around and the air is disturbed. Besides that I basically never have any pump whine or gurgling noises. The air is trapped in the top of the rad, which is the highest point in the loop. I don't really have a better option with this case / GPU combination. If I flipped the tubes to the bottom I'd be more worried about the tubes pulling down on the GPU and having tighter bends which is not recommended for the type of hoses used in this AIO.
3. The temps are fine for this CPU, I guess I'm just used to running old Xeon CPUs. Even after overclocking the snot out of them they always ran cool compared to these new Ryzen chips. I may look in to undervolting the CPU or adjusting other settings which could help. But all in all it's fine.
Went from a Ryzen 3 1200 to a Ryzen 9 5900x on the same mobo. Yeah, there's a difference in performance. I can now run windows 11.
I have a x470 taichi asrock.
Think I'll be good for this chip next year.
Was thinking more like 58003d
If any1 wishes to advise, please drop your comments, presently i have a 1800x😅
Lol the “average joe” comment near the end rlly rings true. I’d been wading through the sea of overproduced affiliate nonsense, spamming a million different keywords to try to find something authentic until I finally stumbled across this vid. And it was great!
Thanks! My Lego channel keeps me quite busy but I like to upload here when I can. Glad you enjoyed it!
If your cooling and tweaking is really good then the 5900x is a better value than 5950x because the 7nm process is more robust. Put 120mm x 38mm industrial fans on the rad and that chip will fly!
That's really one of the reasons, I bought a 5900x and not a 5950x.....
btw... I'm cooling with AIO... Be quiet! Silent Loop 2 240mm... I know.... Is a little bit overkill, but just fine for OC!
I've not really had any temp issues with my 5900x since upgrading from a 1700 and i'm using an old Be Quiet air cooler thats probably nearly 10 years + at this point and the highest i saw my temps go with a Cinebench run was 65 degree ish. Normally around 40-50 for me. I do have a couple of Noctua industrial fans pointed at the intake of the cooler, so that'd be helping the temps
Have a Scythe Fuma 2 for my 3600XT (overclocked) in my old PC
For my 5900x i switched to a AIO... Be quiet! Silent Loop 2 240mm (temp, CPU not jet overclocked at about 39 degree isch.... max. 62...)
Will play with OC to get at about 80 degrees at max. load)
I use a artic freezer!! 280 on my 5900x and idle temps are around 30³C with ambiant 22³C. I did find your paste to be a bit on the sparse site. and off course having the rad to be with the hoses on the top gives a problem with air and thus much lesser cooling capacity. so maybe try to change that if possible, but seeing the 1080 being that large I think that might be a problem with the hoses. But a 5900x should definitely be running a lot cooler then you have it. R23 here was 22680 with my artic liquid freezer II 280 using the offset montage. so maybe that is something that might help.
Upgraded my daughter's pc from r7 1700, x370 killer sli ac, rx580 8gb, 8 gb RAM, 256gb wd black nvme m.2 3rd gen, 500gb samsung pro ssd, dark rock pro 4 cooler, dual boot windows 10 pro, and linux mint cinnamon desktop, (built at the WORST time ever to build a pc due to price gouging) to a r9 5900x, 6700xt 12gb, 32GB 3600 RAM, 1tb wd black SN850, inside a custom phantek p400 case with 10 backlit acrylic panels in black and white. My gamer son in law and grandson love it!!!🤣So does my daughter of course...we ridin' AM4 till the wheels fall off!!!😁
Wait, is your 2700X autographed by Lisa herself? So this is an Anniversary Edition one, that's a collector's item! If I were you I would keep it for another decade when it becomes rare.
It is the Anniversary Edition but I imagine they made tons of them
i dont know much about aios, but i do know about pumps, that noise is cavitation, when that occurs you have little fluid movement, time to get a new aio, or better yet get away from watercooling altogether. Noctua D15h is a very good air cooler!
Maybe I should have spent more time on the conclusion of this video. After a little while the air settled at the top of the radiator and everything is working fine, "for now". It's only an issue when I move the PC around. I wouldn't be surprised if I got another year or two out of it. I'm not against air coolers, it's mostly an aesthetic choice for me. If I did go with air Noctua would be one of my first choices
@@ibanez3434 just to share, under heavy load, so far so good with 1 fan on Noctua d15, one 120mm exit fan. Nothing above 75C. Ryzen 9 5900x, evga 3080 10 gig, Crosshair hero 8 mobo, 32 gigs Trident Z duo at 3200. When I finally dud the swap, I realized how lucky my decision was, fortunately my case has a basement that isolated my power supply, there was a small stain on the metal. My pump had just started to leak. To be fair, the machine was never shut off and that aio served me well for 6+ years
powerful cpu perfect for video editors ang rendering for AM4 platform. I do suggest to shift to a aircooler. I replaced my AIO using the same cpu and the temps are better
Thats awesome! I currently have a 2700x and with windows 10 support coming to an end next year, im also looking at a 5900x... I think that supports windows 11. Also i think we have the same case! Corsair 400C?
Yep it's the 400C 😁
Yes please show your bios optimizations for that cpu.
6:27..................
see, that's why you should have an air cooler instead
to avoid things like this....but what do I know.....
im thinking about upgrading my 2700x to 5xxx just dont know what yet
I still have my 5900x running it at 4.6ghz 1,33ish volts sometimes 1.37 for like 4.7 or 4.8ghz if i were to try it. But it's basically a 13600k. Super nice since Ive had it for a few years
Epic music dude.. Cpu rock out ⚡
The whole montage is Wintergatan's Paradis, a 14 minute song that feels like an epic journey
I've just bought a RYZEN 9 5900x to replace my RYZEN 5 3600xt, my AIO will be mounted better than that though so as not to kill the pump with trapped air.
First off, Thank you for making this video. I think you may have answered my questions in the video but I want to ask just so I have more clarity. I'm a video editor who needed an upgrade to handle 4K editing within DR18. I currently have a Ryzen 7 2700 processor with Wraith Spire LED Cooler. Motherboard is the ASUS Prime B450 -Plus. I upgraded from a GTX1660 to an RTX 3060 and went from 32 GB RAM to 64GB. But my Render times are taking 25% longer and I'm seeing the same lag when editing 4K and no proxies as I had with the old GPU and less RAM. I'm thinking the processor is the problem at this point. If I bump up to the Ryzen 9 5900x should that fix the bottlenecking and make everything much more speedy? Also, will I need a different motherboard to handle the new processor? Sorry for so many questions, I just don't know enough about builds (and don't totally understand it all lol) Thank you!
I would think the CPU would be the next thing to upgrade, the single core performance alone is way faster. I've never done any 4k editing so I can't specifically say this would fix everything. There are always settings that could be to blame, I sill have weird issues I haven't solved. I would post on Reddit or a computer forum and get a few opinions. they will know much more than I will. Best of luck!
@@ibanez3434 thanks, will do!
I'm running an Intel lga 1200, on a MSI ace gold edition motherboard. Everything was working just fine till one day I went to boot up and I got a C1 error code. I just got new ddr4 ram to see if thats the issue which would suck because I had 64gb of ram and now im having to downgrade to 32gb. If that doesn't work I purchased a new MSI MPG Z590 Gaming Carbon WiFi Gaming Motherboard... I'm running the 10th gen Intel chip and if this works I may just return the motherboard. Sell the Intel chip, and see if I can get a shop to fix the msi ace gold edition motherboard. Then I'll sell that for an AMD chip and amd mobo. I have a gigabyte rtx 4080 gpu and a 1000 watt asus Thor psu. I'm waiting on a new case but my Intel chip always feels like it's running hotter than usual. I cleaned it out and put new thermal paste and that's when I got the c1 error. After swapping to just 2 ram chips I got an error code that says cannot find boot drive. But my monitor won't turn on. I got a display port cable instead of the hdmi cable hoping that might fight my screen issue. It just sucks because I have 3 m.2 drives and I honestly cannot remember which drive has my windows loaded :/
I came from i7 3770 to ryzen 5900x ...it is crazy
As a boomer, I don't trust liquid coolers but I'm making the same upgrade. Maxing out my AM4 with the Ryzen 9 5900. Can you recommend a good air cooler.
I ended up getting the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE from recommendations in the comments of this video. It's louder and runs at about the same temperature as my AIO but I won't have to worry about the pump failing 🤷♂️. I really can't give good recommendations at this point, I keep my PC running but don't really follow PC's as closely as I used to
@@ibanez3434 thanks bro!😎
it possible use simple cooler with fan on this processor without liquid ?
i use thermalright assassing king SE (single tower air cooler with 120mm fan) with 5950x, but i also have very good case airflow. 3x120mm fron in and 2x120mm top out, 1x120mm rear out. And nothing blocking between intake and outtake fans (except CPU cooler). With 5950x at stock settings i get to max 72°C on cinebench r23 multicore. 85° is max thermal throttle threshold, so still room left
@@nevernicemeadow and you can play games very well with this without trouble?
@@californiadreams9408 no problem in cyberpunk, max 70° when using stock settings with default PBO. 72°C max in cinebench. dont have any newer game. like i said, it could go to 85° and still be fine, though i wouldnt want it to sit there. I could even raise the PBO limits by around 30% and still be under 80°C for cinebench (which basically simulates the heaviest (realistic) workload)
@@nevernicemeadow do you have good graphic card?
@@californiadreams9408 just a 1080TI but no game will stress the CPU as much as cinebench, and this is onlly CPU dependant
idk why im watching this, but im bored so i'll watch it all
That's what I'm here for 😅
idk why i am reading al these comments, i guess i was bored as well lol
@@dj__grizzly we stay bored lol
My old 2700x runs WAY hotter than my 5900x but the 2700x also has a Wraith Prism on it still. The Vetroo V5 cooler was intended to be a temporary cooler but it works very well so I never bothered upgrading. If I do have to tear it down for any reason it will get a bigger PSU. I would probably get a 850w PSU and a Thermalright Peerless assassin SE RGB.
Great video..😁
Thanks!
do you have any noise problems with that cooler? mine keeps a lot of air bubbles in it.
Do you know why your PC was making that noise? Your cooler is put in wrong the hoses should be on the bottom and you should mounted on the top. It cannot circulate the liquid like that.
From what I can see your cooler is sucking hot air from your rad and pulling it into your system and you only seem to have one fan in the rear for exhausts. That's why your running those temps. My 5900x clocked @ 4.4 on all cores doesn't even hit 65c at full load (video editing) with my Thermaltake 240. You need a bigger case. 🙂
That's been debunked many times, a radiator can be used as an intake without causing issues. There are two additional exhaust fans at the top of the case as well. It does run hot but it has served my needs for all this time. I'll eventually make some kind of upgrade but for now all my money goes to Lego 😅
You didnt have a problem with installing the new CPU? I have an aorus elite x570, updated my bios where the 5000 series is compatible.. but i got boot loops... what might be the problem?...thanks
I didn't have any issues at all, you could try posting on a forum for advice such as Linus Tech Tips. I just haven't been very involved with computers in recent years
I went from 3900X to 5900X for $269, brand new from Microcenter, and there is an amazing difference. Your settings are not revealing it's true potential. Undervolt it. I am running all core 4.7GHz at 1.267V and my temps during Cinebench wont go about 65 C and I scored 23195. I choose to stay here as it is 24/7 safe for this chip. I can go 4.8GHz at 1.315V but that is too much and I get into the 70C range. It may be safe, but I like to be safer. When you game, you go back in the bios and just go default and use the Ryzen Master to OC a couple of cores and there I get 4.94GHz.
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For your AIO cooler radiator, it's important to put the hoses at the bottom if installed vertically, if not it will damage the pump from running it dry or worse, allowing an expensive cpu to overheat, if the hoses are at the top while vertically mounted, it creates an air pocket if and when coolant levels are low due to long term dissipation. 🤝💯
It's been fine for years, probably has a few years left. I don't have the option of flipping the rad, but it will be fine. It's only an issue when the case gets moved around, otherwise the air pocket is at the top just above the tubes
@@ibanez3434 Your gpu doesn't give you much room too work with, but the good thing is that most of these aio coolers nowadays can be refilled easily, all that's needed is a little screwdriver, a large syringe without a needle and some clear coolant, there are a few videos out there on how to do it if it comes down to it, either way nice build bro.❤
I have a Ryzen 5600g CPU with a rtx 3070ti. Should I upgrade to a 5700x or a 5800 x3d. Or should I just wait till I build my next computer. I love VR and play games on my 4k tv or 165hz 1080p monitor. Do I need the extra cash?
There's so many factors there it's kind of hard to give a recommendation. It would depend on the games you play and whether they make use of higher core counts. Again I'm not much of a gamer these days myself. I would try to find examples of CPU comparisons with games that you play, it may not make much of a difference at all.
@@ibanez3434 I thought the same thing,. Plus with only 8gb VRAM I think I'll wait for Ryzen 9000
@@gaminginstilllife9429 For 2023 games for your TV + Monitor, you don't need neither more CPU or GPU power. You're at peak performance bro ;)
The 9000 Series on platform AM5, would be the way go. Hopefully by then they'll fix all the glitchiness with DDR5, power hungry CPU-s, etc ... If AM5 is going to follow suite on AM4, than yeah, the last generation of that socket is going to be really-really good.
ALso prices ... Everything is horrible expensive. Manufacturers didn't get the memo, that the pandemic is over!
Just get a beefy air cooler. No more issue and easier to find for less
I've considered it. I know to get good performance they are often quite big. It's partially just an aesthetic choice. Noise could also be an issue with cheaper air solutions.
@@ibanez3434 i recently went to a 5900X , i am using the Noctua d15. i can have 2 games up and running, a download going , and watching a video, with only 1 of the 2 fans that come with it. im not going above 78C
i have a fantastic 5900x won the silicon lotto i run a -30 undervolt on pbo and get 23200 muticore score
AIO coolers are problematic. One reason why you're having problems with air in the system is the fact that the connections between the pump and the radiator are at the top of the radiator. If they were at the bottom, the air, which is lighter than the liquid, rises to the top of the radiator. Flipping the radiator would minimize the problem. It just looks like your GPU is in the way preventing you from doing that. There are fan coolers that are just as good as that AIO on the market today for less than an AIO.
Hola yo tengo una x370 asus crosshair vi extreme puedo poner un x5900 por favor y gracias?
I think you put way too little thermal paste; need at least triple the amount you put.
Nice - I have a 2700 I may upgrade to 5900x - I also want to double my memory to motherboard max of 64gb which requires replacing all 4 of my sticks :(
Yeah I'm maxed out at 32gb with 4 sticks. I run a ton of programs at once but even then if I fill up my RAM it's probably just Windows being goofy and time for a reboot anyway
bro when the aio starts the bubbling sound tf you doing.... lord help ur pc
compressed air can be risky, be carefull of water in the supply. i know 2 people who killed their gpu with water in compressed air supply.
Bro how dare you turn it on without paste......
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your cooler is going bad. but these need an underclock as im sure you now know
how much did you get the cpu for? have a link for it?
It was an open box listing for $289 on eBay. They had 13 but looks like they sold all of them. There seems to be plenty of listings around that price, some that are brand new. I probably could have got it cheaper being more patient and bidding on auctions or waiting for a lower buy-it-now listing
ryzen cpu just run hot
I went from Ryzen 5 3600x to Ryzen 9 5900x.
In my opinion 5900x and 5950x is more future proof than its more powerful brothers like 5800x3d and 5700x3d, especially if you are switching from 6 core CPUs.
Long live AM4. Hey, I'd change that AIO ASAP, those sounds, let alone the temps you're getting are gnarly. Other than that, congrats on the upgrade!
Can We Run R9 5950X On B450 Tomahawk Max
Their website says its supported with the correct BIOS version. I don't have experience with that board but there may be other videos or forum posts with folks who have. There may be pitfalls I haven't thought of
aio is only good for couple of years. they lose the fluid in it over time. time for a new one.
I've heard conflicting info all over the place, but at least one source said the tubing used in my AIO tends to evaporate the most compared to other material. I only have a problem when I move the case around, it's been running great for a week now. I'll eventually buy another one, they are just so much more expensive than they used to be
amazing upgrade but that GPU sag is killing me.
It kills everyone, at least it gets me comments on this channel 😂
Lol upgraded from the same cpu updated bios bought the R9 5900x with the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB Rev 4 version and G Skill Trident Z Neo cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb oced to cl14 3800mhz stable soooooo 😊.
I went from r5 1400 to 2700 to 5600x to 5900x 😬
5900x will run hot, even with a 360 AiO/big ass air cooler. Would recommend checking out undervolting/curve optimizer and see how far you can push it. I got my curve down -25 on all cores running stable for almost a year now on a 240mm AiO (Lian Li Galahad). Never going over 70c with almost identical performance as running PBO enabled out of the box @ 85-87c.
be quiet! Dark Rock 4 (not Pro) does also the job! ;-)
@@PedroVanDust yep I am using dark rock pro 4 and temps on mine ryzen 9 5900x in game never go over 60
Just got a 5900X today for $319.99. Upgrade for my wife from a 3700X.
Rebuild needed.
get a nhd15 and you good
Arctic Cool 360 Nothing Gets Temps on AMD Chips Cooled Better IMO. The Videos on them Are Accurate, They also Have a VRM Fan in The Pump and it Does Work as Well . Strange How People Over look the Best Result for Other name Bran Components ! I am only Running a R 7 5700x 8 Cores 16 threads, and My CPU averages Mining on Nice Hash 50 C . I would Not Test out my Rig Bitcoin Mining, if it were Not Running So Darned Cold to Start with ! My Graphics Card is only a Gigabyte RX 5700XT Gaming OC 8 Gb ddr6, Testing I Run a UFO in all Fields including Gaming, The Only thing Maxed Out on my X570 Aorus Ultra MB is My Graphics Card , I have a lot of Upgrading To Do , But I really don't need More than UFO Ratings across The Board, LOL ...
The 5800X is a Ryzen 7. The 5900X is a Ryzen 9.
I know that, but my brain doesn't.
I literally fixed my mistake in the video with text, but just realized the title of the video is wrong 🤦♂️. So thanks for the comment 😅
@@ibanez3434 replace your AIO. I am running a 5900X on a 120mm AIO in an SFF build, and temperatures only go up to 70 degC while running Cinebench R23. Normal usage sees temperatures at or below 52 degC. Also, I undervolted my CPU by 0.1volts and limited the overclock to 4.0 GHz. My Cinebench score was still 19,793 points. It's above 21,000 points at full overclock.
i would not go with this cpu unless it is available for around 200-250$ !! its simply too slow now in 2023 and cannot keep in nothing even vs 13600kf while costs more
So I should have saved $50 on the CPU and built an entire new system? That makes no sense. This was a drop in upgrade to a system I built a few years ago and was a very substantial increase in performance.
@@ibanez3434 if you sold this old one you will not spend so much more
@@Mr11ESSE111Went from an i7 3770k to a 5900x.
Incredible performance, handles everything I throw at it.
@@Optimus7519 now its not worth to buying 5900x when price are like of 7900/x
Radiator position 🤦 my God... And he makes PC videos🤣
i know this video is old but it looks like your pc needs dusting bud lol
I literally dusted it in the video 😅
60 idle ??? 🤣 Jesus Mother of God. Dont play or it Will catch fire 🤣
I need to look at upgrading my computer, I just realized it is 5 years 🧓
Those are rookie numbers, I upgraded from a 2012 built i5 2500k system only in 2021. As long as your graphics card holds up, there isn't that much reason to upgrade anymore.