Not really. The original framework with 11th gen Intel can be upgraded in its entirety to the latest core ultra or ryzen mobile chips, with upgraded memory, connectivity and storage options. Not quite the same as being able to upgrade within the same series/generation of components.
Used a T440p myself, honestly one of the best laptops I've ever used. Great upgrade capabilities and still such a solid machine in 2024. If you got a 1080p display on it that would be chef's kiss. Congrats on the new laptop!
There's some screen that was original from/for the Razer Blade that works in the T440p and looks pretty nice. It's not too bad to put in other than the plastic clips on the bezel being somewhat prone to breaking. I'd second upgrading the screen if you're gonna use it portably at all. Though personally I mostly use mine docked like a desktop and don't see the nice screen I put in it.
Just so you know, Windows will "use" 2gb of ram at idle (when you have 8gb total), however, the OS doesn't actually need all of that RAM. It just utilizes it since it is there and not currently being used to make certain processes in the OS run faster. Once you started running RAM intensive apps, the amount of RAM the OS uses will be scaled back to the minimum. Windows has RAM management built into it basically.
@@bokexd3173 it's probably just not reporting it as used, I think older versions of windows used to not report it as used All modern OSs do it, unused ram is wasted ram
idk man, I hate Windows as much as the next average Arch fanboy does but disregarding the pillar of "unused RAM is wasted RAM" for Windows just because it's spyware just divides computer spaces more than they need to be.@@rohanofelvenpower5566
11:48 same here with my Dell Latitude E5540, if it has a lower-wattage charger, it'll complain in the BIOS as well as setting the "On Demand Clock Modulation" to 33%, which essentially inserts "idle clocks" to artificially tank the CPU performance to a crawl to make the OS unusable while the laptop was charging on the wrong charger. We love to see it!
Same here with my Latitude E7440, altough I have the most powerful charger for it, but if it won't detect the charger properly (as the plug is worn out somewhat), it will complain & not charge despite actually showing a charging indicator
I also have the T440p and when I did the cpu upgrade it complained about the charger and it didn't use it at all. But you could run the laptop on battery and when it's off the battery will recharge. So you can get by it when waiting for your new powerful charger. The guy in the video couldn't update the BIOS because it requires the charger plugged in all the time, even if the battery is full.
I am surprised he didn't yet, 1366x768 on what seems to be a matte TN panel is abysmal overall, horrible viewing angles, low resolution, washed out colors and poor contrast.
@alvzcizzler Totally, I've been daily driving a Dell latitude 7290 with has the same display specs. It's yucky and is the only real thing that brings down the laptop, which has a pretty pleasant keyboard and track pad otherwise.
i love my t440p and upgraded it immensely fullhd display, 16gb ram, 256gb msata ssd + 1tb hdd also did a cpu upgrade from an i5 to an i7 runs like a charm (installed LMDE6)
I'm not a Linux knower by any means, but a while back I put Mint on an old Toshiba that was well past Windows 11's dumb requirements, and it breathed life into the old girl. It surprisingly had a socketed dual core Ivy Bridge from the factory, and a quad core i7 plopped right in with no complaint. Even the original cooling system has no problems with it, probably because it was so chonky to begin with. It was surprisingly easy to install Mint as a first-timer. A+. Would recommend. Also Thinkpads are awesome, I have a 3rd gen T14s with a ryzen chip and it's great.
I hate being the old man who says these beaten to death phrases, but they really don't make laptops like they used to. I love the old T20 keyboards, they were the best.
Balling on a budget! Thinkpads are great. Lenovo in general has kept up the build quality of IBM on their business oriented boxes. I grabbed an m75q tiny gen 2 refurbished with a Lenovo warranty for $250, grabbed 64GB of memory and have a nice little 8c/16t box for proxmox (mostly just alpine Linux but it’s been fun for diving back in to gentoo and having a spot to avoid blowing up my main PC). If I didn’t have MacBook Pro work bought for me (I know I know, but I do iOS dev work as well and with the new processors it’s quick and POSIX compliant.
I still use my 2012 Macbook Air, dualcore, 4 Gb Ram. At Amazon you will find cheap adaptors for standard sata m2 ssds. While it runs well with KDE and Gnome, with Lxqt or XFCE its really good for light office use.
Very cool upgrade! Just yesterday i was plannning to get a T440p and uprade it with a Intel i7-4940MX, a 1920x1080 IPS display and a better trackpad, i see yours it great. Also, don't forget to unplug the battery before messing with laptops
I’ve always ran Debian based Linux distros. Your statement about LMDE was spot on. It’s always been super reliable. I want to learn how to run arch well. Could you make a video on how to maintain arch or recommend resources that I could read or watch please? How did you learn how to run arch successfully? Congrats on the new ThinkPad build. I love ThinkPads!They’re fantastic!
I have two of them, one with the Xeon and RTX5000, and the other one with i7 and p2000. I just took the the 32gb ram from the i7 and installed it on the xeon one and now I’m enjoying 64gb ram, 12threads, 16gb vram and a full size laptop. Best 620 bucks ever spend!
@@cero-of5jj your 32 gb is probably single channel tho, so if you can i would add another 32gb in 2x16. Or get the 32gb out and put 32gb in four sticks, 4 x16gb but the same kit twice. This way you can enjoy faster working, I have 64gb now and I can freely enjoy putting up about 4-6 virtual machines without worrying 😏 If you got money you can also get 128gb in four stick and flex about it 😂. What I could suggest is that that you can add more storage as well, right now I have 3x nvme installed 1x tb and 2x 512. You can have 3drives installed as well. So you can have games installed on one, Virtual Machines on one and boot from another one so you wouldn’t occupy too much lanes on one drive. Also for gaming I suggest you get the latest Nvida App and also updating your drivers, made a huge difference in my gaming experience!
Just bought a 6 year old x280 for £120. Not quite as upgradeable and small but still a well built and extremely portable machine. ThinkPad are stunning and just look exactly how a laptop should.
@@foss_sound hmm can't we replace not just the LCD but also all the upper laptop part? I always bought the minimum Full HD one.. Because I don't want to do LCD replacement but looking at the manual don't they get screw in?
@@lancheloth I have a FullHD display, BUT it is massively ghosting and pretty dark. My complaint for newer Thinkpad (T) models and for the latest models the chiclet-style keyboards. There is a way to replace the display, but the options are just better by a little.
Man surprised the macbook still works. There's a transformer next to the charging port that very commonly burns out, then you can't charge it or run it off the charger.
@@mica7191 pre-M1 chips, Macs very easily supported Linux. They used to have Intel CPUs, then starting with the M1 switched to in house designed ARM CPUs. Now there's the Asahi project to get Linux working on them but I don't know how reliable it is
if your changing out the ssd, you can by an adapter that fits into nvme port on the laptop, then plug the new ssd into that adapter. Been using linux mint for 10 months now.
Correct. You can even do this on old laptops having Nvme ports, but some ports only take NVME drives which run on Sata speeds. So nvme becomes the form factor and not speed. They are called NVME SSDs. Some are sold with an adapter kit.
Just stumbled into this channel, and oh my god you are a *true* embodiment of a linux user, like in a stereotype way - Arch Linux ✅ - Upgraded Thinkpad ✅ - Astolfo figure ✅ - Lain wallpaper ✅ - WindowMaker ✅ - a monitor only to show neofetch ✅ Heck you even planning on changing the bios completely, which only basement dwellers know how to do that shit
Absolute banger of a video full of information, I've been looking for a thinkpad and have been just not been able to choose, but seeing your video has made me fully want to use a t440! great video man!
@@dusannovkovic5286 if you want anything future proof, get used T480. Buying an old laptop seems fun but it doesn't make sense to not be able to use a laptop for 3 years+
I actually have a MacBook Pro 2012 that I intend to put a form on Linux on once I grab an ssd and ram upgrade. Those things were actually upgradable lol
just install linux on an external ssd (usbc to usb) to have a portable linux machine. The performance is surprisingly better. i still use my 2012 mac pro full linux mint install on my ssd
Had fun watching this build Gotta say tho. I've had WAY more issues with Linux Mint than Arch. I tried to move to a Debian based distro and tried Mint. Immediately regretted it. The video drivers were not working properly and I experienced way more issues on Mint than I had when starting to play with Arch. I moved to fedora for my workstation but I still use Arch on my laptop. Never failed me thus far and so far I dont see it giving me any issues
Sorry to hear that. It's always advisable to check hardware compatibility of machine with a particular distro of Linux. E.g. my Lenovo had issues with Broadcom modem and Ubuntu won't work. I had read this issue and thankfully some one on the internet had written a script for it. Ran it on terminal and wifi started working.
I have been very impressed with the Thinkpad series of laptops sense I got my T480, it's pretty nice can't swap out the CPU, but everything else you can do with it is pretty dam cool. Plus that NVME life is nice. Have a good one and God Bless.
> casually puts on `hollywood` on his big screen in the background > hakerman But in all honesty good video. I bought a TP X1 (which isn't nearly as hotswappable) but I'm still happy with it. Might try to do a cheap build later on, you inspired me!
Hey man, just sharing my experience because when you said I5-3210M my ears perked up. I had an HP- 2000 with a horrible AMD E-300 soldered cpu board. I managed to find a motherboard that supports HM-75 express and a G2 socket (some HP2000's came with them, only reason this worked) and the I5-3120M and I5-3230M were candidates. However, with some research and educated guessing, an Intel i7-3840QM works! Originally I thought the I7-3612QM was its max supported limit. Going from a 2 core AMD to a quad core Intel has been crazy. Turns out the that while on paper, the board only handles 8GB of ram, it accepted 16GB and I added an SSD. While its not a thinkpad, modding this old laptop has been real fun. only finished it about 4 months ago. Its still using windows 10 but it did fire up with no boot issues. Will have to switch to Linux once the security updates stops. Idk if anyone would see, (or even need this for Modding an Hp-2000/1000 or Compaq CQ45 or similar HP250 G1/ 450 G0) but the part numbers for the board were 6050A2493101 6050A2493101-MB-A02 (these are the ones I used, with the external GPU, you'll need to swap your fan for the version that has the additional heatsink for the gpu, see part number 685087-001) I bought both parts from the vendor Nokotion on Ali express. and the I7-3840QM on ebay. Additional board numbers, non external GPU (I think) 694693-001 685108-001 694693-001
That's crazy. Could you please tell what was the cost of modding? I think of using your approach on my old machines but cost benefit analysis in mind simply says no!
@@learndesignwithdev since I was sourcing parts that were just drop ins from higher end versions of my laptop, the cost to swap everything out was very cheap for me at least. The I7-3840QM at time of purchase was $55 USD and the new motherboard/ CPU fan was $50. 16GB of DDR3 Ram sticks were $20. So for around 130 bucks I have a really capable machine that’s going to last a long time. And even longer once it’s switched to Linux after Windows 10 has no more security updates. If you can do something similar, I’d recommend!
Your old laptop being slow on 1080p RUclips is likely the AV1 encoding. I believe you can turn off av1 media in Firefox and that should improve the performance.
I was surprised to see your choice. I thought everyone just forgot that piece of history already. Don't get me wrong, i am watching this from my own t440p right now, and getting and upgrading it myself was fun, but for combination of prices for t440p + all upgrades (1080p screen, processor, bluetooth+wifi, faster ram), you can get much more, if you just buy something more modern. like thinkpad t14 with those juicy amd with good igpu in them, m.2 ssd's, better screens, more lightweight, etc.
Ive been using a t440p for a while now. Bought it used, put 16g of ram in it, dual ssd, i7 4702mq, 1080p display and I run linux mint. Its a really good daily laptop thats so solid im not worried about bending it in half in my bag. Battery is passed its best, I get just under 2 hours but a 9 cell will be in my basket soon enough.
quick recommendation: get a Lenovo docking station that's compatible. They are dirty cheap, really, some companies just throw them away because they are not compatible with the newer models, but they work just fine. We had an ultra docking station that was compatible with that model and you could plug up to 4 monitors to that thing, and like 6 USB ports+ethernet, it's a great addition for a really low price.
@ yeah but those are expensive, and I’m not talking about graphic acceleration, but the availability to have a plug and play with all your peripherals, plus those docking are dirty cheap
I have a t430 that was from an old company that i worked for. I really don't use it much but i do have windows 10 and Linuxmint installed on it. I have to confess that my daily driver is my M2 MacBook Pro that is pretty heavily loaded with memory and storage capacity. I remember long time ago I used to play Day of Defeat for endless hours on a PC that I built. It was a lot of fun. I also have an old Dell Optiplex 9020 that i bought on ebay for $65. I put a couple of SSDs and maxed out the CPU. I run Arch Linux on that machine along with Windows 10. Those old computers are a lot of fun to play around with and run almost forever.
I run Gentoo Linux on all of my Thinkpads (I have a large collection of them given I repair and renovate them) and the T440P is a great machine - as is the X220 as a smaller "netbook-sized" machine. Arch is good but Gentoo allows for much finer customisation and still officially supports 32-bit machines too - it runs extremely well on great Core 2 Duo Thinkpads like the T60 and T61 also. I even have it installed and running on Pentium III based Thinkpads like the T22 and T23. Thinkpads always have great Linux support and, as you shown very well in this video, most of them are easy to upgrade. Just remember that any Thinkpad "X" series machine (X60, X220, etc.) has a soldered-in CPU so you won't be able to swap that out, but you can do most of the other upgrades here.
@@jiraiya1488 The Thinkpad T60 is probably the last one with a 4x3 screen, that's from around 2007 and can take a a Core 2 Duo CPU up to 2.33 GHz and a screen res of 1680x1050. The only limitation of it is that the chipset only has 32-bit RAM addressing (even though the CPU is 64-bit) which means it only every recognises just over 3.2 GB RAM, but that's no issue for a "lite" Linux or XP for some retrogaming. The R60 is similar specifications but a bit heavier and thicker. Before that you're looking at the T4x (T40, T41, T42 and T43) which are single core Pentium 4 Mobile CPUs up to around 2 GHz and a maximum RAM of 2 GB.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 thanks for replying man, i have just been interested in these thinkpads for a little while now. I'm looking for a good cheap one that can run arch and one that can have easy upgrades and would serve me as a reliable daily driver. Love the X60 with the IBM logo (is available for 25 dollar near me too) but it's pretty hard to upgrade from what i can tell. The 4x3 screen just feels so cool for some reason. What would you recommend? I think X61 can run arch easily?
@@jiraiya1488 You're most welcome. The "sweet spot" CPU for a T60 is an Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 running at 2GHz, you should be able to find one online for just a few dollars. RAM is DDR2 667 MHz (PC2-5300) and it can take 2 SODIMM modules of 2GB each, but only 3.2GB will be recognised. The X61 can take up to 8GB RAM but the important thing to remember with Thinkpads are that the "X" series have CPUs soldered to the motherboard so CPUs in those cannot be upgraded. RAM can be upgraded and up to 8GB but 4GB DDR2 modules are very expensive due to rarity - possibly $30-$50 each from China.
The T440p is so much fun. I bought one with pretty much the worst specs you could have (though somebody at the store forgot to check for everything and I ended up getting a free LTE module which was nice) and upgraded the panel, ram, ssd, other ssd, wlan card, cpu and trackpad (T450 trackpads fit) and now it's just the way I want it.
i got a 2011 mbp 13" and upgrading it with 8gb ram and putting arch literally made it like new. Now the only problem is that its been dead for a few months because the charging port died after 12 years of service 💀
I'm still using my Dell Latitude E6440 which is more or less the Dell equivalent to the T440p. 16gb RAM, 1.6tb SSD, and a BGA to PGA modded 4850HQ from Xianyu and it still handles everything I do 12 years later :)
Dude that CPU is going to melt with that single heat pipe lmao. try looking into the dual heat pipe mod i think its definitely worth a try for that cpu. good video
I've checked thermals and it's pretty usable, Max I've hit has been 75c while all cores were pinned compiling, will still look into the dual heatpipe mod though! I have a friend that was talking to me about it
I bought my T440p in 2019 and it's still in daily use. i7-4800MQ, 16GB RAM, GT 730M, 2TB MX500, 1080p IPS, backlit keyboard etc. and runs Windows 10 and Xubuntu 22.04
I got a T14 AMD APU and i'm so goddamn happy with it. 330USD shipped and taxed. It was a refurb but it was still plastic wrapped so I think it was a bulk offload from some firm where it sat on a shelf until some staffer needed it, and they never did. Gotta love the crapshoot.
Honestly as an High School student i prefer my modded x220, but the dual core i5 2520 that i have is way less powerful than the quad core i7 that you have . Even if i could put an i7 mobo in my x220, it would thermal throttle even more 😅 I prefer it over the later gens of thinkpads because of the keyboard and the build quality, and also the overall experience . Mods that i did : - 16gigs of ddr3 - External WiFi antenna - Intel AX210 WiFi card - Internal usb mod for my logitech mouse - 256gig mSATA SSD (I wonder why i can't just use a mini-pcie ssd to boot, though, as it has a way better speed (500 vs. 200mB/s) - USB 3.0 ExpressCard
I own a few T440p laptops and they have been great. Cpu upgrade, Max ram, 1080 screen, and 3 ssds is kinda beast under Linux for dirt cheap. I've even gifted a couple to family running mx Linux. Be careful when you buy 9cell batts - lot of sellers claiming big capacity that is actually barely over a brand new 6 cell. Checking the actual vs reported capacity in your batt stats will help confirm.
Cool, I have this Thinkpad as well. The works (1080p screen, better Wi-Fi/BT, SATA caddy, T450 trackpad, backlit KB, dGPU, new 9-cell battery), corebooted with Arch, pulled a i7-4700MQ out of an overheating HP I got for $50 (too much thermal paste on the CPU). Been my daily driver for a couple of years now with no signs of that changing. My only complaint would be that the card reader doesn't work in coreboot.
I have the same laptop, T440p, but with the i5 4300M and the GT 730M. I also added a Kingstone 240 GB SSD and 12 GB of RAM. It was a very good laptop and i used it for the last 3 years, now I have a T14 gen 1.
I recently got a hold of a T14S with a 10th gen i7vPro FOR FREE. I previously had a Surface Book 2 with 8th gen i7 and a GTX1060, but it was too big of a computer for me (15"). So, I ended up giving that away to a friend. Anyway, the T14S is great; it's so freakin' light. the CPU is fine, the memory is soldered in, and I ended up replacing the m.2 ssd to a Samsung 990 1TB. This thing is freakin' FAST. I did end up installing Windows 10 Pro and I did spend a lot of time 'cleaning it up' (a few hours running updates, Vantage Pro, installing productivity apps, removing 'bloatware'). Lenovo machines are pretty sweet.
I've been using T490 and I love it. Like 10-15 years ago I was using T41, i think. The quality of thinkpads have gotten better. I have used arch before but these days, it's Debian-based, Red hat-based, and FreeBSD.
When I first started my job I picked out an old MacBook Pro 2012 and I loved that thing until it finally gave out on me last year and I swapped for an m2, and I still miss it.
Personally I would have gone for a T560 or T570 You can still upgrade them but just kind of alot more refined. I got mine with a German non-backlit keyboard, 8GB of DDR4 and a 256GB HDD used on eBay for 150 bucks in very good condition. I installed an English backlit keyboard, 32GB of DDR4, a 1TB SSD for windows and a 250GB M.2 2242 SSD for Linux along with a new battery. Took about 20 minutes of work and don't think I'll need to upgrade for quite a long time.
That was very informative and very cool to see you do stuff, thank you, it’s the first video of you that I saw. The long blurry screens where very painful for my eyes.
arch, astolfo, pink psp, thinkpad, windowmaker, anime wallpaper, screenfetch. good memories of /g/.
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T440p is the Framework before Framework was a company
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can you fit am4 ryzen desktop motherboard like a a520m inside if you desolder the io ports ?
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FR I bet the they were inspired by it, perhaps subconsciously.
Not really. The original framework with 11th gen Intel can be upgraded in its entirety to the latest core ultra or ryzen mobile chips, with upgraded memory, connectivity and storage options. Not quite the same as being able to upgrade within the same series/generation of components.
Used a T440p myself, honestly one of the best laptops I've ever used. Great upgrade capabilities and still such a solid machine in 2024. If you got a 1080p display on it that would be chef's kiss. Congrats on the new laptop!
Plus 1 on the display upgrade.
There's some screen that was original from/for the Razer Blade that works in the T440p and looks pretty nice. It's not too bad to put in other than the plastic clips on the bezel being somewhat prone to breaking. I'd second upgrading the screen if you're gonna use it portably at all. Though personally I mostly use mine docked like a desktop and don't see the nice screen I put in it.
Just so you know, Windows will "use" 2gb of ram at idle (when you have 8gb total), however, the OS doesn't actually need all of that RAM. It just utilizes it since it is there and not currently being used to make certain processes in the OS run faster. Once you started running RAM intensive apps, the amount of RAM the OS uses will be scaled back to the minimum. Windows has RAM management built into it basically.
arch also does that while still using barely any ram
@@bokexd3173 it's probably just not reporting it as used, I think older versions of windows used to not report it as used
All modern OSs do it, unused ram is wasted ram
That's so not true. Mine uses 4gb whilst I'm running illustrator and illustrator uses about 2gb.
It's a T480
nonsense, just admit windows is spyware
idk man, I hate Windows as much as the next average Arch fanboy does but disregarding the pillar of "unused RAM is wasted RAM" for Windows just because it's spyware just divides computer spaces more than they need to be.@@rohanofelvenpower5566
It's so cool seeing people tinker with computers like this!
It's more fun doing it yourself! :)
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11:48 same here with my Dell Latitude E5540, if it has a lower-wattage charger, it'll complain in the BIOS as well as setting the "On Demand Clock Modulation" to 33%, which essentially inserts "idle clocks" to artificially tank the CPU performance to a crawl to make the OS unusable while the laptop was charging on the wrong charger.
We love to see it!
Same here with my Latitude E7440, altough I have the most powerful charger for it, but if it won't detect the charger properly (as the plug is worn out somewhat), it will complain & not charge despite actually showing a charging indicator
I also have the T440p and when I did the cpu upgrade it complained about the charger and it didn't use it at all. But you could run the laptop on battery and when it's off the battery will recharge. So you can get by it when waiting for your new powerful charger. The guy in the video couldn't update the BIOS because it requires the charger plugged in all the time, even if the battery is full.
Would love to see a display upgrade!
it's so easy
I am surprised he didn't yet, 1366x768 on what seems to be a matte TN panel is abysmal overall, horrible viewing angles, low resolution, washed out colors and poor contrast.
@alvzcizzler Totally, I've been daily driving a Dell latitude 7290 with has the same display specs. It's yucky and is the only real thing that brings down the laptop, which has a pretty pleasant keyboard and track pad otherwise.
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man got all the things that got me into linux, absolutely goated build.
i love my t440p and upgraded it immensely
fullhd display, 16gb ram, 256gb msata ssd + 1tb hdd
also did a cpu upgrade from an i5 to an i7
runs like a charm (installed LMDE6)
I'm not a Linux knower by any means, but a while back I put Mint on an old Toshiba that was well past Windows 11's dumb requirements, and it breathed life into the old girl. It surprisingly had a socketed dual core Ivy Bridge from the factory, and a quad core i7 plopped right in with no complaint. Even the original cooling system has no problems with it, probably because it was so chonky to begin with. It was surprisingly easy to install Mint as a first-timer. A+. Would recommend. Also Thinkpads are awesome, I have a 3rd gen T14s with a ryzen chip and it's great.
Nice to see another windowmaker user! I've been using it on my work pc for more than 10 years. It's fast and just works.
I hate being the old man who says these beaten to death phrases, but they really don't make laptops like they used to. I love the old T20 keyboards, they were the best.
Balling on a budget! Thinkpads are great. Lenovo in general has kept up the build quality of IBM on their business oriented boxes. I grabbed an m75q tiny gen 2 refurbished with a Lenovo warranty for $250, grabbed 64GB of memory and have a nice little 8c/16t box for proxmox (mostly just alpine Linux but it’s been fun for diving back in to gentoo and having a spot to avoid blowing up my main PC). If I didn’t have MacBook Pro work bought for me (I know I know, but I do iOS dev work as well and with the new processors it’s quick and POSIX compliant.
That's a bad deal mate
I still use my 2012 Macbook Air, dualcore, 4 Gb Ram. At Amazon you will find cheap adaptors for standard sata m2 ssds. While it runs well with KDE and Gnome, with Lxqt or XFCE its really good for light office use.
Very cool upgrade! Just yesterday i was plannning to get a T440p and uprade it with a Intel i7-4940MX, a 1920x1080 IPS display and a better trackpad, i see yours it great. Also, don't forget to unplug the battery before messing with laptops
Especially the internal
Aluminium case is a huge benefit actually. It provides a way better heat dissipation any plastic casing does
I’ve always ran Debian based Linux distros. Your statement about LMDE was spot on. It’s always been super reliable. I want to learn how to run arch well. Could you make a video on how to maintain arch or recommend resources that I could read or watch please? How did you learn how to run arch successfully? Congrats on the new ThinkPad build. I love ThinkPads!They’re fantastic!
Just got a T430 a few months ago. Love the old thinkpads.
The Astolfo figurine was a cherry on the cake
I have a P53 I got from my boss for free recently, and man I love the thing. Welcome to the club homie
I have two of them, one with the Xeon and RTX5000, and the other one with i7 and p2000. I just took the the 32gb ram from the i7 and installed it on the xeon one and now I’m enjoying 64gb ram, 12threads, 16gb vram and a full size laptop. Best 620 bucks ever spend!
@ufukpolat4691 mine has an i7 9800 or something HQ.
And an RTX 3000
Also 32 GB of ram and 1tb nvme.
It's great for free lol
@@cero-of5jj your 32 gb is probably single channel tho, so if you can i would add another 32gb in 2x16. Or get the 32gb out and put 32gb in four sticks, 4 x16gb but the same kit twice. This way you can enjoy faster working, I have 64gb now and I can freely enjoy putting up about 4-6 virtual machines without worrying 😏 If you got money you can also get 128gb in four stick and flex about it 😂. What I could suggest is that that you can add more storage as well, right now I have 3x nvme installed 1x tb and 2x 512. You can have 3drives installed as well. So you can have games installed on one, Virtual Machines on one and boot from another one so you wouldn’t occupy too much lanes on one drive. Also for gaming I suggest you get the latest Nvida App and also updating your drivers, made a huge difference in my gaming experience!
Как же приятно наблюдать в одном видео апгрейд такой системы. Good luck, bro
Just bought a 6 year old x280 for £120. Not quite as upgradeable and small but still a well built and extremely portable machine. ThinkPad are stunning and just look exactly how a laptop should.
X280 is one of the most portable computers ever made. It's really amazing.
The worst part of old thinkpads is the subpar lcd panel, but this is so cool man!
The latest also very often have this very bad displays. Sucks on my T14g2 so bad.
Buy upgrades gents
@@lancheloth I am hating this glued display shizzle.
@@foss_sound hmm can't we replace not just the LCD but also all the upper laptop part? I always bought the minimum Full HD one.. Because I don't want to do LCD replacement but looking at the manual don't they get screw in?
@@lancheloth I have a FullHD display, BUT it is massively ghosting and pretty dark. My complaint for newer Thinkpad (T) models and for the latest models the chiclet-style keyboards. There is a way to replace the display, but the options are just better by a little.
Been using POP OS! for last 2 years. solid as rock. best distro.
Man surprised the macbook still works. There's a transformer next to the charging port that very commonly burns out, then you can't charge it or run it off the charger.
Interesting! Had no clue
Mate, how do Macbooks support Linux???
@@mica7191 pre-M1 chips, Macs very easily supported Linux. They used to have Intel CPUs, then starting with the M1 switched to in house designed ARM CPUs. Now there's the Asahi project to get Linux working on them but I don't know how reliable it is
@@mica7191 they just do, even macbooks with M chips support special version of Linux called Asahi Linux
@@mica7191 asahi linux :) , by a whole lot of time and effort by asahi team
Duude i love the music selection you have in all your videos. Great content as always. I get excited when i see you released new videos
What a beautiful laptop. I wish they still made them like the T440p.
if your changing out the ssd, you can by an adapter that fits into nvme port on the laptop, then plug the new ssd into that adapter. Been using linux mint for 10 months now.
Correct. You can even do this on old laptops having Nvme ports, but some ports only take NVME drives which run on Sata speeds. So nvme becomes the form factor and not speed. They are called NVME SSDs. Some are sold with an adapter kit.
Just stumbled into this channel, and oh my god you are a *true* embodiment of a linux user, like in a stereotype way
- Arch Linux ✅
- Upgraded Thinkpad ✅
- Astolfo figure ✅
- Lain wallpaper ✅
- WindowMaker ✅
- a monitor only to show neofetch ✅
Heck you even planning on changing the bios completely, which only basement dwellers know how to do that shit
all true except that wallpaper is not lain
> a monitor only to show neofetch
where?
+ windowmaker based idk ive been using it for 10+ years
I have the top spec t480s. Fully upgraded. Old thinkpads are where it's at for those in the know.
Just got a T480 from 2018 for $130. That's the last great Thinkpad in my opinion
It lasts over 6 hours. I'm in love.
thats a steal! lowest i can find is about 280USD
The T14 line is really great too!
@@resneptacle is it? I haven't heard good things about it
@@kiwuuspurr1927 in terms of upgradability t480 is literally the last of its generation but the t14 on its own right is amazing
does a t480 good for programming?
day of defeat is such a flashback for me. I played the hell out of that game in high school. great video man! very interesting.
Absolute banger of a video full of information, I've been looking for a thinkpad and have been just not been able to choose, but seeing your video has made me fully want to use a t440!
great video man!
t440 isnt as upgradable as the t440p if memory serves, not worth getting and i can only recommend the t440p if you are ok with going hazwell.
@@whydoesythaveanatsystem thank you! I am fine going hazwell, I'll look into t440p's! 💜💜
@@dusannovkovic5286 anytime brother :)
@@dusannovkovic5286 if you want anything future proof, get used T480.
Buying an old laptop seems fun but it doesn't make sense to not be able to use a laptop for 3 years+
That Intel HD 4600 is not to be underestimated
Thing can run basically almost all Esports games and even GTA 5 at decent fps
i'd love to know how you setup your arch linux installs, i would love a minimalist desktop like that.
don't use Arch, it's a meme. Come to comfy Debian
Revived a 13 year old laptop with arch and i3wm. I won't recommend it as a daily driver unless you're really committed to it but it's shockingly fast.
I actually have a MacBook Pro 2012 that I intend to put a form on Linux on once I grab an ssd and ram upgrade. Those things were actually upgradable lol
just install linux on an external ssd (usbc to usb) to have a portable linux machine. The performance is surprisingly better. i still use my 2012 mac pro full linux mint install on my ssd
i used this video to test pipewire on my (arch btw) laptop!!
banger video!
Had fun watching this build
Gotta say tho. I've had WAY more issues with Linux Mint than Arch. I tried to move to a Debian based distro and tried Mint. Immediately regretted it. The video drivers were not working properly and I experienced way more issues on Mint than I had when starting to play with Arch.
I moved to fedora for my workstation but I still use Arch on my laptop. Never failed me thus far and so far I dont see it giving me any issues
Sorry to hear that. It's always advisable to check hardware compatibility of machine with a particular distro of Linux. E.g. my Lenovo had issues with Broadcom modem and Ubuntu won't work. I had read this issue and thankfully some one on the internet had written a script for it. Ran it on terminal and wifi started working.
I have been very impressed with the Thinkpad series of laptops sense I got my T480, it's pretty nice can't swap out the CPU, but everything else you can do with it is pretty dam cool. Plus that NVME life is nice. Have a good one and God Bless.
> casually puts on `hollywood` on his big screen in the background
> hakerman
But in all honesty good video. I bought a TP X1 (which isn't nearly as hotswappable) but I'm still happy with it. Might try to do a cheap build later on, you inspired me!
Hey man, just sharing my experience because when you said I5-3210M my ears perked up. I had an
HP- 2000 with a horrible AMD E-300 soldered cpu board. I managed to find a motherboard that supports HM-75 express and a G2 socket (some HP2000's came with them, only reason this worked) and the I5-3120M and I5-3230M were candidates. However, with some research and educated guessing, an Intel i7-3840QM works! Originally I thought the I7-3612QM was its max supported limit. Going from a 2 core AMD to a quad core Intel has been crazy. Turns out the that while on paper, the board only handles 8GB of ram, it accepted 16GB and I added an SSD. While its not a thinkpad, modding this old laptop has been real fun. only finished it about 4 months ago. Its still using windows 10 but it did fire up with no boot issues. Will have to switch to Linux once the security updates stops.
Idk if anyone would see,
(or even need this for Modding an Hp-2000/1000 or Compaq CQ45 or similar HP250 G1/ 450 G0)
but the part numbers for the board were
6050A2493101
6050A2493101-MB-A02
(these are the ones I used, with the external GPU, you'll need to swap your fan for the version that has the additional heatsink for the gpu, see part number 685087-001)
I bought both parts from the vendor Nokotion on Ali express. and the I7-3840QM on ebay.
Additional board numbers, non external GPU (I think)
694693-001
685108-001
694693-001
That's crazy. Could you please tell what was the cost of modding?
I think of using your approach on my old machines but cost benefit analysis in mind simply says no!
@@learndesignwithdev since I was sourcing parts that were just drop ins from higher end versions of my laptop, the cost to swap everything out was very cheap for me at least. The I7-3840QM at time of purchase was $55 USD and the new motherboard/ CPU fan was $50. 16GB of DDR3 Ram sticks were $20. So for around 130 bucks I have a really capable machine that’s going to last a long time. And even longer once it’s switched to Linux after Windows 10 has no more security updates.
If you can do something similar, I’d recommend!
man i bought my first thinkpad laptop with your video and i'm proud to you that you give me the motivation to to somthing this big
Your old laptop being slow on 1080p RUclips is likely the AV1 encoding. I believe you can turn off av1 media in Firefox and that should improve the performance.
Arch in other distros is not bad for newbies depending on the distro. I think CachyOS is great as an intro to Arch for new people.
I was surprised to see your choice. I thought everyone just forgot that piece of history already. Don't get me wrong, i am watching this from my own t440p right now, and getting and upgrading it myself was fun, but for combination of prices for t440p + all upgrades (1080p screen, processor, bluetooth+wifi, faster ram), you can get much more, if you just buy something more modern. like thinkpad t14 with those juicy amd with good igpu in them, m.2 ssd's, better screens, more lightweight, etc.
SLIME RANCHER MENTIONED (Absolutely LOVE how you set up windowmaker, lovely stuff) :3
As soon as I saw SDR++ I subscribed. Thanks for the awesome video!
I'm a simple man. I see you rip out windows and install Arch Linux, I upvote.
Ive been using a t440p for a while now. Bought it used, put 16g of ram in it, dual ssd, i7 4702mq, 1080p display and I run linux mint. Its a really good daily laptop thats so solid im not worried about bending it in half in my bag. Battery is passed its best, I get just under 2 hours but a 9 cell will be in my basket soon enough.
quick recommendation: get a Lenovo docking station that's compatible. They are dirty cheap, really, some companies just throw them away because they are not compatible with the newer models, but they work just fine. We had an ultra docking station that was compatible with that model and you could plug up to 4 monitors to that thing, and like 6 USB ports+ethernet, it's a great addition for a really low price.
Some old Thinkpads can attach adapters via thunderbolt port and run graphics cards through them.
@ yeah but those are expensive, and I’m not talking about graphic acceleration, but the availability to have a plug and play with all your peripherals, plus those docking are dirty cheap
I love the content. Please do a coreboot video. I've been wanting to use it for sometime.
I have a t430 that was from an old company that i worked for. I really don't use it much but i do have windows 10 and Linuxmint installed on it. I have to confess that my daily driver is my M2 MacBook Pro that is pretty heavily loaded with memory and storage capacity. I remember long time ago I used to play Day of Defeat for endless hours on a PC that I built. It was a lot of fun. I also have an old Dell Optiplex 9020 that i bought on ebay for $65. I put a couple of SSDs and maxed out the CPU. I run Arch Linux on that machine along with Windows 10. Those old computers are a lot of fun to play around with and run almost forever.
I run Gentoo Linux on all of my Thinkpads (I have a large collection of them given I repair and renovate them) and the T440P is a great machine - as is the X220 as a smaller "netbook-sized" machine.
Arch is good but Gentoo allows for much finer customisation and still officially supports 32-bit machines too - it runs extremely well on great Core 2 Duo Thinkpads like the T60 and T61 also. I even have it installed and running on Pentium III based Thinkpads like the T22 and T23.
Thinkpads always have great Linux support and, as you shown very well in this video, most of them are easy to upgrade. Just remember that any Thinkpad "X" series machine (X60, X220, etc.) has a soldered-in CPU so you won't be able to swap that out, but you can do most of the other upgrades here.
what are the old ones with like square-ish screens, i really liked the look of them
@@jiraiya1488 The Thinkpad T60 is probably the last one with a 4x3 screen, that's from around 2007 and can take a a Core 2 Duo CPU up to 2.33 GHz and a screen res of 1680x1050. The only limitation of it is that the chipset only has 32-bit RAM addressing (even though the CPU is 64-bit) which means it only every recognises just over 3.2 GB RAM, but that's no issue for a "lite" Linux or XP for some retrogaming.
The R60 is similar specifications but a bit heavier and thicker.
Before that you're looking at the T4x (T40, T41, T42 and T43) which are single core Pentium 4 Mobile CPUs up to around 2 GHz and a maximum RAM of 2 GB.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 thanks for replying man, i have just been interested in these thinkpads for a little while now. I'm looking for a good cheap one that can run arch and one that can have easy upgrades and would serve me as a reliable daily driver. Love the X60 with the IBM logo (is available for 25 dollar near me too) but it's pretty hard to upgrade from what i can tell. The 4x3 screen just feels so cool for some reason. What would you recommend?
I think X61 can run arch easily?
@@jiraiya1488 You're most welcome.
The "sweet spot" CPU for a T60 is an Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 running at 2GHz, you should be able to find one online for just a few dollars.
RAM is DDR2 667 MHz (PC2-5300) and it can take 2 SODIMM modules of 2GB each, but only 3.2GB will be recognised.
The X61 can take up to 8GB RAM but the important thing to remember with Thinkpads are that the "X" series have CPUs soldered to the motherboard so CPUs in those cannot be upgraded. RAM can be upgraded and up to 8GB but 4GB DDR2 modules are very expensive due to rarity - possibly $30-$50 each from China.
world updates on those would make me physically cringe
The T440p is so much fun. I bought one with pretty much the worst specs you could have (though somebody at the store forgot to check for everything and I ended up getting a free LTE module which was nice) and upgraded the panel, ram, ssd, other ssd, wlan card, cpu and trackpad (T450 trackpads fit) and now it's just the way I want it.
goated as always. Would you do a video on your full setup's sometime? id love to see DE and how you customized them ^_^
don't see many nhk wallpapers, sick!
I disable touch pad function in my every Thinkpad I owned. I only use the track point and it is the only reason why i work on thinkpad.
i got a 2011 mbp 13" and upgrading it with 8gb ram and putting arch literally made it like new. Now the only problem is that its been dead for a few months because the charging port died after 12 years of service 💀
Some user commented it has a transformer near that port. It usually goes out. 😢
@ could be but it is really worn out so it’s probably the wear to it. I may try convert it into a desktop computer for my mum
Man, I got to get my Think pad back. I had one back in 2016 🔥🔥🔥
17:17 now i understand why you blurred your steam library earlier in the video lmao
he's got an astolfo figure, and that's coming form a 02 pfp
This is the video that did me in, I got a w541 now. Got a new wifi card and bios flashing tools.
I'm still using my Dell Latitude E6440 which is more or less the Dell equivalent to the T440p. 16gb RAM, 1.6tb SSD, and a BGA to PGA modded 4850HQ from Xianyu and it still handles everything I do 12 years later :)
That is one good action figure of astolfo there!
Would look good on my desk!
16:52 Darling in the franxx notification sound? You are a man of culture.
Dude that CPU is going to melt with that single heat pipe lmao. try looking into the dual heat pipe mod i think its definitely worth a try for that cpu. good video
I've checked thermals and it's pretty usable, Max I've hit has been 75c while all cores were pinned compiling, will still look into the dual heatpipe mod though! I have a friend that was talking to me about it
@@Ionic1k dope
I bought my T440p in 2019 and it's still in daily use. i7-4800MQ, 16GB RAM, GT 730M, 2TB MX500, 1080p IPS, backlit keyboard etc. and runs Windows 10 and Xubuntu 22.04
this might be my new channel to binge. keep it up!
I got a T14 AMD APU and i'm so goddamn happy with it. 330USD shipped and taxed. It was a refurb but it was still plastic wrapped so I think it was a bulk offload from some firm where it sat on a shelf until some staffer needed it, and they never did. Gotta love the crapshoot.
Honestly as an High School student i prefer my modded x220, but the dual core i5 2520 that i have is way less powerful than the quad core i7 that you have .
Even if i could put an i7 mobo in my x220, it would thermal throttle even more 😅
I prefer it over the later gens of thinkpads because of the keyboard and the build quality, and also the overall experience .
Mods that i did :
- 16gigs of ddr3
- External WiFi antenna
- Intel AX210 WiFi card
- Internal usb mod for my logitech mouse
- 256gig mSATA SSD (I wonder why i can't just use a mini-pcie ssd to boot, though, as it has a way better speed (500 vs. 200mB/s)
- USB 3.0 ExpressCard
Dude, give your MBP a repaste. Does wonders! 🎉
I have a few times before, did not make much of a difference at all.
@Ionic1k That's unfortunate. For me it made a total difference.
your machine in the background reminded me i need to update my packages.
I own a few T440p laptops and they have been great. Cpu upgrade, Max ram, 1080 screen, and 3 ssds is kinda beast under Linux for dirt cheap. I've even gifted a couple to family running mx Linux. Be careful when you buy 9cell batts - lot of sellers claiming big capacity that is actually barely over a brand new 6 cell. Checking the actual vs reported capacity in your batt stats will help confirm.
I really enjoyed this video! the music and editing! I just got a t440p myself and been on the exact same adventure!
W music and cool upgrade tbh
i like this style, reminds me of bringus
Looking into getting a ThinkPad and this just encouraged me more.
Gonna get a refurbished one first.
Can you drop the ricing config? I really wanna check those widgets and window decorations out.
Do you have?
Cool, I have this Thinkpad as well. The works (1080p screen, better Wi-Fi/BT, SATA caddy, T450 trackpad, backlit KB, dGPU, new 9-cell battery), corebooted with Arch, pulled a i7-4700MQ out of an overheating HP I got for $50 (too much thermal paste on the CPU). Been my daily driver for a couple of years now with no signs of that changing. My only complaint would be that the card reader doesn't work in coreboot.
Please make another one of these videos i swear they are so entertaining
I have the same laptop, T440p, but with the i5 4300M and the GT 730M. I also added a Kingstone 240 GB SSD and 12 GB of RAM. It was a very good laptop and i used it for the last 3 years, now I have a T14 gen 1.
I'm a Panasonic Toughbook guy myself. But I've had ThinkPads in the past as well. They don't make 'em like that anymore for sure.
got my subscription at 2:15
This was cool af to watch! I miss my old thinkpad now
I recently got a hold of a T14S with a 10th gen i7vPro FOR FREE. I previously had a Surface Book 2 with 8th gen i7 and a GTX1060, but it was too big of a computer for me (15"). So, I ended up giving that away to a friend.
Anyway, the T14S is great; it's so freakin' light. the CPU is fine, the memory is soldered in, and I ended up replacing the m.2 ssd to a Samsung 990 1TB. This thing is freakin' FAST.
I did end up installing Windows 10 Pro and I did spend a lot of time 'cleaning it up' (a few hours running updates, Vantage Pro, installing productivity apps, removing 'bloatware'). Lenovo machines are pretty sweet.
I had this same model, 2013 retina. Then a 2016, 2019, and 2021 M1max now. 3 year upgrade cycles.
I've been using T490 and I love it. Like 10-15 years ago I was using T41, i think. The quality of thinkpads have gotten better. I have used arch before but these days, it's Debian-based, Red hat-based, and FreeBSD.
Disable turboboost to make temps better.
put 1 into /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo
I love the vaporwave hits - VECTOR GRAPHICS hits hard. "You blew my miiiiind"
You are a master of your craft!
nice usage of VECTOR GRAPHICS
Love the video, and love the vampire music.
When I first started my job I picked out an old MacBook Pro 2012 and I loved that thing until it finally gave out on me last year and I swapped for an m2, and I still miss it.
Don't forget unplugging battery pack (and a power adapter of course) before opening a back cover and doing something inside a notebook
your videos are great...keep em coming
YOU CANT ESCAPE!
7:46 any idea on how to set my own arch Linux up like that I mean the way the desktop looks except for the wallpaper ig ?
I liked it also
he is using windowmaker
I also fell for the T440p meme. Best laptop I've ever owned
such a fun watch! brings out the Linux geek in me!
Personally I would have gone for a T560 or T570
You can still upgrade them but just kind of alot more refined. I got mine with a German non-backlit keyboard, 8GB of DDR4 and a 256GB HDD used on eBay for 150 bucks in very good condition.
I installed an English backlit keyboard, 32GB of DDR4, a 1TB SSD for windows and a 250GB M.2 2242 SSD for Linux along with a new battery. Took about 20 minutes of work and don't think I'll need to upgrade for quite a long time.
That was very informative and very cool to see you do stuff, thank you, it’s the first video of you that I saw. The long blurry screens where very painful for my eyes.
Love the assault map too lol