I think you've done an incredible job for someone who would like to actually walk through or travel on this ship. Crew area is critical and I would get rid of one or more of the VIP suites so they can live comfortably. Happy crew = happy ship. Great video. Thank you.
Not just for antarctica. To use them in the baltics and gulf of finland (st petersburg for example) a ship must be rated for traveling in sheet ice of 5cm thick minimum.
Is that in deep winter or something? This Princess V39 standard sports cruiser went UK to St Petersberg on the Baltic and returned via Finnish archipelago. ruclips.net/video/bMgNxBJOhR0/видео.html
Ok, bit late to the party but this was excellent. You go through the plans just like I would but you give so much more perspective to the areas. Thanks for this.
Reading an article in Boat International, the reasoning behind having multiple VIP suites is so none of the VIP's argue over who has the VIP suite especially if you're friends with celebrities.
@@trashking1867 current generation of starlink satellites can't communicate with each other yet. So the satellite needs to be in range of booth the ship and a ground station. With starlink satellites being in a low earth orbit the area they can cover is quite limited, meaning in the end you won't get a starlink connection further than maybe 100miles of the cost in best case currently. Don't expect starlink do be in maritime use within a few years. It might happen this decade but nothing is certain yet, as spaceX hasn't figured out the laser based communication between satellites yet and when they have figured that out they still need to replace all already existing satellites with the new ones.
I enjoyed having a view into this impossible world. Having been in the U. S. Navy I can say the crew quarters look a lot more spacious than what we enlisted sailors had. They seem to comparable to the officers' staterooms which, on my ship, usually housed two officers.
Thanks for the overview. Quite nice. Btw, another almost identical set of plans i saw for this yacht did show a shallow tank deck below this one, like you thought. On the subject of the tiny crew gym, it's possible the gym was originally planned to be larger, but maybe they found they needed another crew cabin, so we got that one oddball crew cabin down there, carved out of the original gym space. M/Y Ulysses (the 107m one) did something similar in its first refit, where the original crew gym got replaced by four additional crew cabins. These expedition yachts seem to have ravenous appetites for more crew! Another slight oddity is that 'Heli Operations Office' on the bridge deck. It's really more of a cabin, with a bed, wardrobe, and bath, and is indeed labeled 'Pilot's Cabin' in some of the pictures elsewhere. A rather nice Pilot's cabin! Assuming they're not referring to the Ice Pilot or somesuch, then now i don't know what they mean with that other Heli Pilot's Cabin down below. The one below might have ended up as the Executive Chef's cabin instead. Note that something else i expected to see in an expedition yacht this size, would be a small Medical Room. But i can't find one anywhere here.
The Yacht is owned by Nat Rothschild. It was ordered in 2007 and then there were problems with the builder, which tied the yacht up in court. Eventually they moved it to Admiral to finish it. He probably wants nothing to do with after all that. It's a nice explorer though with a great owners suite which places the owners bed as close to center as possible.
Nat Rothschild was the owner. He died in an air accident on 9th December 2017 and never took delivery, hence it was put up for sale. It is currently out of the water in Genoa.
Really enjoying your channel in lockdown a bit of escapism, I often gaze at the somewhat smaller M class princesses ect as the jetty is on my normal kayaking and sailing plot, thank you for showing very interesting content
Having a difficult time feeling as sorry for the crew living in that crew space as you seem to dwell on. That’s a massive and well-appointed space relative to the working/living conditions on lots of these boats, and this monster travels to some incredible places that these nice folks get paid to go. They’re not prisoners, they’re employees. They’re free to find themselves another gig if the crew appointments on their multi-million dollar floating home aren’t palatial enough for them.
I think you’ve misunderstood my comparison. I was simply pointing out how much space the guests have compared to crew. Also every boat is tight for crew space so this idea that they can find another boat is incorrect.
The explorer yacht "Ragnar" that´s being built currently has an icebreaking hull, I believe. Not built from scratch, though. But it´s going to be amazing when it´s done.
Woo hoo, found my new most favorite expedition yacht here! Previously it was the 107m Ulysses, but this one here packs all the important features into a smaller & more practical package. Anyone want to give me $150,000,000 so i can buy it? And i'll also need $20 million / year to operate it. And a few millions more for the helicopters. And i'll also need $60 million for the Gulfstream G650 private jet to take me to the yacht. Oh boy, the costs do start adding up, don't they?
I very much doubt that a man with over 100 million dollars to build a yacht would blow it all! It takes all the right mindsets and skills to make that money in the first place why would he then make stupid decisions and loose it!! No chance he has sold for profit and may not even be a yacht lover just invested in a top of the line yacht noing he could sell to a passionate yachtsman without the 2 year wait!!
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male middle class people dont have a bad mindset they are happy with what they have! They dont desire alot of asset's! Your just arrogant sir! Plain and simple! How do you no what another person thinks and feels?? Are you god or something!! Dont believe anything you THINK! Only respect facts!! There is a way more important thing than money and knowledge !! Its called WISDOM! It will bring you alot more happiness than money!! Dont learn it when its to late!!
Many wealthy individuals build yachts to sell them. Huge profits can be made on a newly completed vessel. Many new buyers and those looking to upgrade to a larger vessel don't want to wait three plus years for a new yacht to be built. This is why there is a market for new yachts. Or this yacht could have been built on speculation by the shipyard. Many shipyards will build a spectacular yacht to enter into the major yacht shows. These vessel are for sale from the beginning with most sold by completion. Cheers
@@J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams. Even with a low cost of money, this seems like crazy speculation. I can understand a yard embarking on this if their borrowing costs are low, they don't have a current order and they want to keep their work force engaged. But for a billionaire who has demonstrated the ability to make significant money in another field, it doesn't make sense to tie up this kind of capital on a spec yacht build that may be sold at an ultimate loss. People need to remember that there are always black swans out there. We're in the midst of an epic one right now. You can easily be caught as the person without the chair when the music stops.
@@J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams. not true. yachts are often sold at a loss to the person who bought them from the ship builder. the costs and retrofit are enormous. they are often put out for charter companies.
Here's my best semi-informed estimate. It won't be completely accurate, but shouldn't be too crazily off-base either. First, because this is an expedition yacht, you've got to have more crew than usual, due to long voyages, continuous watchstanding, maintenance, etc. A mediterranean yacht that's only out for a few days at a time doesn't need as many. Actually, only 24-26 crew is probably cutting it really tight for an expedition yacht of this size and capability. The only way i can get the crew down that low is by skimping on stewardesses, on the assumption that service standards are relaxed a bit on expedition cruises. Note that i'm assuming that a couple of the senior 'private-cabin' officers are married and have their spouses working on board, sharing their cabin. This isn't unusual on megayachts. This allows me to increase the crew count slightly to 25 or so. Otherwise we'd be limited to 23 crew or less. So, my estimate is: ** Captain (probably doesn't stand watches on a yacht this size) ** 1st Officer (bridge watchstanding officer) ** 2nd Officer (bridge watchstanding officer) ** 3rd Officer (bridge watchstanding officer) ** Chief Engineer ** 2nd Engineer ** 3rd Engineer/ETO (Electronics Officer) (i'd guess this is about the minimum number of engineers on expedition yacht this size). ** Executive Chef (i'd expect the exec chef to probably have a private cabin, on a larger yacht like this). ** Assistant/Crew Chef. (having only two chefs is probably cutting things close here, with having to staff two galleys) **Helicopter Pilot (like eSysman said, a private cabin is unusual here, i don't think the heli pilot usually rates high enough for that. Maybe the original owner had a special long-time favorite pilot or something). **Helicopter Mechanic (necessary for a yacht-based helicopter of this class). (note that for an antarctic cruise, you're required to have a second backup helicopter too, like maybe a small Robinson R66Turbo or some such. Which implies you'd need a second helicopter pilot as well in that case. Also if you're doing IFR in the main helicopter in stressful expedition settings, you may want a co-pilot for the main helicopter too.) **Purser (probably married to the Captain and sharing the Captain's cabin, not unusual). ** Chief Stewardess ** Stewardess ** Stewardess ** Stewardess (i'm really skimping here. A mediterranean yacht of this size would probably have twice as many stews.) ** Boson ** Lead Deckhand ** Deckhand ** Deckhand ** Deckhand ** Deckhand ** Deckhand (i'm not skimping here quite as much, though my number is just a very approximate rough guess. You need deckhands for bridge watchstanding, helicopter operations, tender operations, watertoys, yacht exterior cleaning & maintenance, divemaster, etc, etc.) ** Really should have a Medical Officer too, in an expedition yacht of this size. The owner might bring their personal physician along, who would probably be in one of the guest cabins. Otherwise, you often have a stewardess/medic or deckhand/medic dual role. But i'm a bit surprised to not see a small medical room on this yacht - i'd expect to see one on an expedition yacht this size. ** Maybe a Security Officer too? For an antarctic expedition, you'll need some additional staff as well (some of these would probably be using guest cabins): ** Ice Pilot (required. Basically a second Captain, experienced in polar operations). ** Expedition Director (probably necessary for a yacht this size. I'd think you'd probably want an expedition director all the time, really, and not just for polar operations.) **Maybe an assistant helicopter pilot. ** Maybe some additional guides/naturalist types as well.
Great video, it would be cool in the future to perhaps compare differences in yacht plans and layouts. I feel like people like myself would be quite interested
An interesting point that was glossed over is that the boat has (3) electrical generators powered by Cat c18 engines. This is what many mid sized 60-100 ft boats use as the propulsion engine. Places like Yacht World and Denison Yacht sales usually have deck plans included in the pic set. All things equal, I think a Westport 130 would be enough to meet my needs, plus it is pretty.
Want an Ice breaking expedition superyacht? Look for Damen's SeaXplorer with the double acting hull. Breaking Ice Astern and having great sea keeping behaviour through the Axe form bow. At 75m they can even have a double heli hangar ;)
The deck you are not seeing on the plan is the bilge deck, where all the big tanks are located. It's usually never shown as an actually accessible deck since you can usually only get in there through scuttle access hatches not to mention it's classified as a hazard area (dangerous fumes, as well as flamables)that is restricted access to engineering staff only.
Another awesome video! Love your channel so much. One of these days, it would be cool if you show any of the technical spaces. Would be cool to hear more detail on how Planet Nine is powered too. Must be some amazing redundancy to make it able to visit high latitudes. Anyway, thanks for all the great content!!!
Pretty large crew for something short of 80 meters, any thoughts as to why the crew requirement is so high? I see many 70-80 meter with crew requirements below 20.
I think anyone traveling with the owner/charter guest does not count towards required crew. Crew quarters look nice, maybe small toward forward, but the private head for each room is nice.
This vessel has more volume due to additional decks. In addition there needs to be crew for the helicopter. Some of the crew may only be on board when the owner and/or his/her guests are. Like if the helicopter stays at the owner's residence or a nearby facility. Some yachts run with a smaller crew, until guests are on board. More crew is brought on for such instances. And yes, as someone else pointed out, there are regulations in place to ensure there is enough crew to handle and maintain the vessel without over working any of the crew. Granted, if there are terribly demanding guests and a cheap owner, the crew can be over worked. Sadly it's a culture where nobody dares to speak up. Unfortunately it'll take a tragic series of events before real change and accountability is put in place. The same can be said for cruise ship staff and crew. And some crew will ask to work double shifts in order to take time off at a particular destination. But a double shift is not working two eight hour shifts, it's working two 10-18 hours shifts. This means one crew member could be up 32 hours. Obviously a captain or first mate wouldn't do such a thing. However, another crew member responsible for your safety or theirs do. The danger of a deadly mistake is there if proper protocol is not followed. One young man did just that. He worked two shift, went out for a drink with the rest of the crew but decided to return before everyone else for some much needed sleep. The yacht was locked. So he decided to climb to the top deck to see if one of the access door was unlocked. Unfortunately he fell off the boat, hit his head and died. He was sleep deprived and added to that a little alcohol. The mix of the two severely impaired his judgement causing the fall. I don't know if the double shift was his choice or was necessary to ensure guest comfort. Either way it was a tragic loss of a sweet young man. The lives of his fellow crew members, his family, and friends was changed forever. According to his mum: as expected in the yachting world, the crew had to put this tragic death aside and pick up new charter guests, Brad & Angelina, the very next day.
Cameron Hollis I don't doubt that yacht crews are often overworked, but young people go out drinking and get themselves hurt making bad decisions all the time. I don't see how that was the fault of the yacht owner and I'm not surprised that they stayed on schedule considering how much is paid to rent a yacht for a week.
There are VIP suites and VIP cabins and they are different. The cabins are bedroom/sitting room with ensuite, the suites have a separate lounge/dining room. There is one opposite the staff cabin on the lower deck as well as the one on the upper deck. So it has the owners suite, 2 VIP suites and 3 VIP cabins.
My point is if all the cabins are VIP then they’re not really VIP. They are just guest cabins. It’s like all employees in Starbucks are known as ‘partners’, but they’re not really.
Everybody who's been around pleasure boats knows the old saying: - "The two greatest days in a boat owner's life are they do you buy the boat........ aaaand the day you sell the boat." - Boats are an insane amount of work to own no matter the size.
The yacht T6 which is for sale with y.co is about 55m long and has a helicopter hangar as well. Yacht asking price just 20m EUR. With regard to crew cabin size, check the converted tug boat Ariete Primo. She has 4 crew cabins for 8 people and 2 cabins (=4 crew) share 1 bathroom. Even more packed. She is roughly 40m with 1 owner and 5 guest cabins. And she is for sale as well...
I don't see how 26 people can sleep in the crew quarters as I've counted 8 bunk beds cabins and 4 double beds cabins (captain, first officer, engineer and pilot) unless these four are married to crew members and you also count the staff cabin (two singles).
@@yoelkevin5121 Shouldn't matter - each person gets their own bunk. They all have uniforms and toiletries to store - you aren't going to store a week's worth of uniforms for four people in one room. Official listing shows crew size 22. When he shows the vast majority of the crew cabins and says for "26," he's wrong. There are 10 cabins, which would house 20 max. Including the Captain's cabin, that makes 22; however, considering the Captain, First Officer, Engineer, and Heli pilot all have their own rooms (unless it's a rarity where they're dating a crew member and sharing rooms), the crew size is probably 18 max, 12 optimally. www.fraseryachts.com/en/yacht-for-sale/planet-nine/ www.yatco.com/vessel/info/239807/240ft-73m/2018/admiral-for-sale-italy
Probably a dumb question, but when you mentioned the drop down hanger and the possibility of the heli sliding off. Is a heli strapped down on these boats always?
The helo would be strapped down but if the weather is rough enough you could still lose it. We did a very rough trip in the Med last year with a 5 tonne helo on our deck and the pilot was super stressed as the weather was bad. He thought a few times we’d lose it.
Great video - and I really enjoyed the coverage of the deck plans - thanks for that! I am curious about what kind of helicopter they have on board - almost all civilian helicopters do not have folding rotors, which of course are necessary for the hangar stowage, along with a fuel pump down system, both of which make it "Navalized". Geoff Rohde
Geoff Rohde: The helicopter shown in the plan was an Agusta (Leonardo) A109S. This aircraft can be fitted with a blade-folding kit, as an optional extra.
I think Yatch Chopi Chopi has the best Captan and crew quarters at least that I’ve seen. The Captan on Chopi Chopi has what they call his own “ apartment “ it seriously looks like a really nice VIP cabin and the crew mess and quarters is quite nice. The CEO of CRN was interviewed and said owner believes in happy crew happy boat and specifically asked for spacious Captan and crew quarters.
5:54 can someone please explain how the hanger door works? If the helicopter has landed, how do they open the door? And it certainly can't be open when the helicopter lands...
There is a lift inside the hangar. It rise as the doors open to create a large area. Once the helo has landing and rotors folded the lift lowers into the hangar and the doors close.
This type of market is very slow. It can take years until a sale is finalized. Buyers are scarce, and those from that small percentage of the income bracket tent to be very specific about what they want. So if you're already thinking of a shiny new toy, it's better to put it up for sale straight away.
Larger domes have better range the further north or south from the equator. With it being an expedition yacht this would have been why they were fitted. It’s not the size of the dome that dictates the throughput.
1:29 🤔 Is Mangusta 165 "BlackLegend" behind on the right...??? I love sooooo much Overmarine Mangusta yachts, especially the 165🛥...😍😍😍!!! P.S. in this case proud to be italian!!! 2:43 "Eclipse" yacht...what a BEAUTY 👍🏻
Is it necessary to have all that crew? Can that ship/boat run with 20 or less crew? Sorry i'm no expert(only started watching yachts for a week) so this question might sound dumb.
When the boat is on charter or guests aboard they run shifts around the clock. Guests are looked after 24/7 There's always a crew member on watch, fire/security watch and a crew member on call for that midnight snacking guest. Watch Below Deck on TV. It's pretty accurate, trust me😉
Don’t forget of that 20 is at least a captain, first mate, and a few deck hands.... but it includes the staff that do the housekeeping too, a cook, etc. Staff adds up fast but you can’t always double up on roles. The captain won’t be doing the laundry any time soon....
I want to mention one thing I didn't see anybody else say in the comments. As small as the crew area is, they will usually be running two or three shifts. Therefore the galley, for example ,will never have 26 crew eating at once. And even though the crew quarters have bunks, they may be on opposite shifts, so the room is "private" sometimes.
Well all boats are different. But there are times when crew will eat staggered yes because of work especially with guests onboard. However there are plenty of times, in fact the majority of the time in my experience that most if not all the crew will sit and eat together.
When the boss is going to use the boat and needs a Helo, it will usually be dispatched to the boat a day or Teo before. Then when the boss arrives on his jet, the helo will go and collect him from the airport. Pilot stays onboard until the boss leaves.
Couldn't fail to notice that one of the owner's lounges has a bed in it. So its intimacy with the 'nieces' is like those weak heli landing pads: touch and go.
owner is Nat Rothschild. i parties on this Yacht with Ivy Atwood, she’s a direct descendant of the family and a heir to the fortune. they went to Mykonos for a month over 2 weeks ago and i was there. beautiful yacht. we were jumping off the starboard side into the water
The crew are well provided for. Only 2 crew per cabin, some yachts squeeze in 3. A full size ensuite per cabin. Double beds for senior officers. Separate crew mess/galley, often they are combined, and they don't down tools and eat all at the same time, no Scottish unions here m'laddy. The only time you might get it fill would be if the Captain wants to speak to everyone before a charter. They have another lounge area, gym as well. This is not a huge megayacht so a hanger is great. One thing missing, or did I er miss it, a pool. The smaller communication 'balls' may be due to a different system being chosen that uses a higher frequency hence smaller satellite dishes.
Ok all new MLC compliant yachts are required to have a gym. They had to make it mandatory to ensure the crew had somewhere to exercise. And again MLC boats cannot have more than 2 people in a cabin, again a rule had to be implemented to stop squeezing too many people into a boat. As for crew mess, if the owner or guests are onboard then yes it’s unlikely the crew will eat at the same time. However in yard periods and when there are no guests the crew generally eat together. Antennas require a large dish to increase limits of reception. The further away from the equator you go the larger dish you need to continue getting a reception.
No pool. To fit this sort of helicopter capacity on an expedition yacht this size, compromises have to be made all over the place. The heli hangar ends up where the pool would've normally have been, and also uses up the pool's weight allowance.
Often I suspect they have a vision of what they want, they express that vision and are given what they asked for, but what they asked or is not necessarily what they wanted. And over a 2-3 years build period maybe they changed and did not realise. Same thing happens delivery software projects to business people.
I REALLY wanna see a full fat icebreaker yacht. With the latest technology I'm sure she could be made comfortable in a swell and boast half decent speed with biblical range. Surely that's gotta be the ultimate billionaire's toy to truly get away from it all
The GAs (general arrangements) or plans are not easy to come by. They are usually kept from the public domain. In this instant they were published on the Agency website. When I come across others I’ll do something similar.
I think you've done an incredible job for someone who would like to actually walk through or travel on this ship. Crew area is critical and I would get rid of one or more of the VIP suites so they can live comfortably. Happy crew = happy ship. Great video. Thank you.
More of these virtual walkthroughs/tours would be awesome! This was a fantastic video!
Not just for antarctica. To use them in the baltics and gulf of finland (st petersburg for example) a ship must be rated for traveling in sheet ice of 5cm thick minimum.
Mikael Levoniemi why Antarctica ? Sea level.
@fifthof that's a minimum. An Artic class 10 can travel at a minimum of 3 knots through 10 feet thick.
Is that in deep winter or something? This Princess V39 standard sports cruiser went UK to St Petersberg on the Baltic and returned via Finnish archipelago.
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*"The ship is brand new...and I don't know who the owner is...it could be anyone..."* _-eSysman_
Well, not exactly anyone.
It's me. I admit it.
Rothschields would own one maybe..
This is my butler's yacht. I have a much nicer one.
Really enjoyed going over the deck plans! Hope you do this more often, if plans are available.
Ok, bit late to the party but this was excellent. You go through the plans just like I would but you give so much more perspective to the areas. Thanks for this.
Reading an article in Boat International, the reasoning behind having multiple VIP suites is so none of the VIP's argue over who has the VIP suite especially if you're friends with celebrities.
That sounds about right, haha.
Genius. I bet the billionaire owner has experience with celebrities. Similar skills to daycare attendants.
I don't believe and will not go out of my way for those so-called celebrities. In my book, we are all equal.
@@CaptainArt777 I guess on your yacht you can refer to all of the guest cabins as 'NVIP cabins'.
hahaha imagine having friends like that
If you can afford this, then 40k a month for satelite internet won't bother you I imagine.
$40k? Yikes
Be cheaper when starlink drops to the public
@@trashking1867 current generation of starlink satellites can't communicate with each other yet. So the satellite needs to be in range of booth the ship and a ground station. With starlink satellites being in a low earth orbit the area they can cover is quite limited, meaning in the end you won't get a starlink connection further than maybe 100miles of the cost in best case currently. Don't expect starlink do be in maritime use within a few years. It might happen this decade but nothing is certain yet, as spaceX hasn't figured out the laser based communication between satellites yet and when they have figured that out they still need to replace all already existing satellites with the new ones.
I enjoyed having a view into this impossible world. Having been in the U. S. Navy I can say the crew quarters look a lot more spacious than what we enlisted sailors had. They seem to comparable to the officers' staterooms which, on my ship, usually housed two officers.
Thanks for the overview. Quite nice. Btw, another almost identical set of plans i saw for this yacht did show a shallow tank deck below this one, like you thought.
On the subject of the tiny crew gym, it's possible the gym was originally planned to be larger, but maybe they found they needed another crew cabin, so we got that one oddball crew cabin down there, carved out of the original gym space. M/Y Ulysses (the 107m one) did something similar in its first refit, where the original crew gym got replaced by four additional crew cabins. These expedition yachts seem to have ravenous appetites for more crew!
Another slight oddity is that 'Heli Operations Office' on the bridge deck. It's really more of a cabin, with a bed, wardrobe, and bath, and is indeed labeled 'Pilot's Cabin' in some of the pictures elsewhere. A rather nice Pilot's cabin! Assuming they're not referring to the Ice Pilot or somesuch, then now i don't know what they mean with that other Heli Pilot's Cabin down below. The one below might have ended up as the Executive Chef's cabin instead.
Note that something else i expected to see in an expedition yacht this size, would be a small Medical Room. But i can't find one anywhere here.
So long as there's s wood burning pizza oven, I'm set
The Yacht is owned by Nat Rothschild. It was ordered in 2007 and then there were problems with the builder, which tied the yacht up in court. Eventually they moved it to Admiral to finish it. He probably wants nothing to do with after all that. It's a nice explorer though with a great owners suite which places the owners bed as close to center as possible.
"He probably wants nothing to do with *after all that* ." why?
He still owns it btw
@@greenmtroamer33 He's dead, he died on the 9/12/2017 some say.
Nat Rothschild was the owner. He died in an air accident on 9th December 2017 and never took delivery, hence it was put up for sale. It is currently out of the water in Genoa.
Lots of great information. The difference between VIP and crew space certainly reinforces the adage, “It’s good to be king”. 👍👍
Thanks for the explanation of the deck plans. It’s really cool to see the inter workings
Really enjoying your channel in lockdown a bit of escapism, I often gaze at the somewhat smaller M class princesses ect as the jetty is on my normal kayaking and sailing plot, thank you for showing very interesting content
i love these expedition steels, seems like theyre safer, tougher,
Looks like an amazing vessel!
Having a difficult time feeling as sorry for the crew living in that crew space as you seem to dwell on. That’s a massive and well-appointed space relative to the working/living conditions on lots of these boats, and this monster travels to some incredible places that these nice folks get paid to go. They’re not prisoners, they’re employees. They’re free to find themselves another gig if the crew appointments on their multi-million dollar floating home aren’t palatial enough for them.
I think you’ve misunderstood my comparison. I was simply pointing out how much space the guests have compared to crew. Also every boat is tight for crew space so this idea that they can find another boat is incorrect.
THANK YOU for taking the time to explain everything. Earned my sub!!
Very nice! Looked this up having just seen it outside of Cavtat harbour in Croatia, lovely design & great vid!
The explorer yacht "Ragnar" that´s being built currently has an icebreaking hull, I believe.
Not built from scratch, though. But it´s going to be amazing when it´s done.
Woo hoo, found my new most favorite expedition yacht here! Previously it was the 107m Ulysses, but this one here packs all the important features into a smaller & more practical package. Anyone want to give me $150,000,000 so i can buy it? And i'll also need $20 million / year to operate it. And a few millions more for the helicopters. And i'll also need $60 million for the Gulfstream G650 private jet to take me to the yacht. Oh boy, the costs do start adding up, don't they?
You didn't even put up your GoFundme so we can help you, you just missed out on a whole dollar donation, :)
Thanks for the description of Ice Rated vs Ice Breaker.
One badass super yacht. I love it!
Reminds me of Andromeda. Except all that storage in the bow, and mini superyaght tendor. Lovely vessel.
Great video, never seen any video of any yacht with so many details.
So fascinating! Thanks for unpacking the design and layout. Great content! I'm glad to have found your channel...subscribed!
Thanks for the info. I think it's safe to safe there's a motivating factor to becoming a 1st officer or engineer. 😉 👍👍👍👍👍
Fantastically informative, very interesting video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective.
Mesmerizing footage.
Great video, very detailed, good job 👍🏻😎⚓️🍺
Excellent video -- so informative and very interesting to watch. Great job and love the content in your videos!!!
Or the owner wanted to be a big shot and went bankrupt during the building proces. Either way nice video!
I very much doubt that a man with over 100 million dollars to build a yacht would blow it all! It takes all the right mindsets and skills to make that money in the first place why would he then make stupid decisions and loose it!! No chance he has sold for profit and may not even be a yacht lover just invested in a top of the line yacht noing he could sell to a passionate yachtsman without the 2 year wait!!
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male middle class people dont have a bad mindset they are happy with what they have! They dont desire alot of asset's! Your just arrogant sir! Plain and simple! How do you no what another person thinks and feels?? Are you god or something!! Dont believe anything you THINK! Only respect facts!! There is a way more important thing than money and knowledge !! Its called WISDOM! It will bring you alot more happiness than money!! Dont learn it when its to late!!
@@baddazzgarage2953 it was built by nate Rothschild....read up on him
Do not care for dark hull
@@honestytoafault 56 billion dollar man not broke by any means not rothschild
divorce, first possibility in every boat sale
Valid point, ur prly right.
Could be for sale because somebody finally came to their senses LOL
I doubt it!
Many wealthy individuals build yachts to sell them. Huge profits can be made on a newly completed vessel. Many new buyers and those looking to upgrade to a larger vessel don't want to wait three plus years for a new yacht to be built. This is why there is a market for new yachts. Or this yacht could have been built on speculation by the shipyard. Many shipyards will build a spectacular yacht to enter into the major yacht shows. These vessel are for sale from the beginning with most sold by completion. Cheers
@@J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams. Even with a low cost of money, this seems like crazy speculation. I can understand a yard embarking on this if their borrowing costs are low, they don't have a current order and they want to keep their work force engaged. But for a billionaire who has demonstrated the ability to make significant money in another field, it doesn't make sense to tie up this kind of capital on a spec yacht build that may be sold at an ultimate loss.
People need to remember that there are always black swans out there. We're in the midst of an epic one right now. You can easily be caught as the person without the chair when the music stops.
@@J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams. not true. yachts are often sold at a loss to the person who bought them from the ship builder. the costs and retrofit are enormous. they are often put out for charter companies.
Really enjoyed this Video,,,,, Thank you...
more likely the shipyard built the first ship of the class outside of a contract (ie. no buyer).
Also can you breakdown the crew and what they all do? It's crazy to see it takes 26 people for a ship this small.
At some point, you also start to have crew which support the other crew, such as the owners chef and a separate cook for the crew.
Here's my best semi-informed estimate. It won't be completely accurate, but shouldn't be too crazily off-base either. First, because this is an expedition yacht, you've got to have more crew than usual, due to long voyages, continuous watchstanding, maintenance, etc. A mediterranean yacht that's only out for a few days at a time doesn't need as many. Actually, only 24-26 crew is probably cutting it really tight for an expedition yacht of this size and capability. The only way i can get the crew down that low is by skimping on stewardesses, on the assumption that service standards are relaxed a bit on expedition cruises. Note that i'm assuming that a couple of the senior 'private-cabin' officers are married and have their spouses working on board, sharing their cabin. This isn't unusual on megayachts. This allows me to increase the crew count slightly to 25 or so. Otherwise we'd be limited to 23 crew or less.
So, my estimate is:
** Captain (probably doesn't stand watches on a yacht this size)
** 1st Officer (bridge watchstanding officer)
** 2nd Officer (bridge watchstanding officer)
** 3rd Officer (bridge watchstanding officer)
** Chief Engineer
** 2nd Engineer
** 3rd Engineer/ETO (Electronics Officer)
(i'd guess this is about the minimum number of engineers on expedition yacht this size).
** Executive Chef (i'd expect the exec chef to probably have a private cabin, on a larger yacht like this).
** Assistant/Crew Chef.
(having only two chefs is probably cutting things close here, with having to staff two galleys)
**Helicopter Pilot (like eSysman said, a private cabin is unusual here, i don't think the heli pilot usually rates high enough for that. Maybe the original owner had a special long-time favorite pilot or something).
**Helicopter Mechanic (necessary for a yacht-based helicopter of this class).
(note that for an antarctic cruise, you're required to have a second backup helicopter too, like maybe a small Robinson R66Turbo or some such. Which implies you'd need a second helicopter pilot as well in that case. Also if you're doing IFR in the main helicopter in stressful expedition settings, you may want a co-pilot for the main helicopter too.)
**Purser (probably married to the Captain and sharing the Captain's cabin, not unusual).
** Chief Stewardess
** Stewardess
** Stewardess
** Stewardess
(i'm really skimping here. A mediterranean yacht of this size would probably have twice as many stews.)
** Boson
** Lead Deckhand
** Deckhand
** Deckhand
** Deckhand
** Deckhand
** Deckhand
(i'm not skimping here quite as much, though my number is just a very approximate rough guess. You need deckhands for bridge watchstanding, helicopter operations, tender operations, watertoys, yacht exterior cleaning & maintenance, divemaster, etc, etc.)
** Really should have a Medical Officer too, in an expedition yacht of this size. The owner might bring their personal physician along, who would probably be in one of the guest cabins. Otherwise, you often have a stewardess/medic or deckhand/medic dual role. But i'm a bit surprised to not see a small medical room on this yacht - i'd expect to see one on an expedition yacht this size.
** Maybe a Security Officer too?
For an antarctic expedition, you'll need some additional staff as well (some of these would probably be using guest cabins):
** Ice Pilot (required. Basically a second Captain, experienced in polar operations).
** Expedition Director (probably necessary for a yacht this size. I'd think you'd probably want an expedition director all the time, really, and not just for polar operations.)
**Maybe an assistant helicopter pilot.
** Maybe some additional guides/naturalist types as well.
Great video, it would be cool in the future to perhaps compare differences in yacht plans and layouts. I feel like people like myself would be quite interested
I second that suggestion
An interesting point that was glossed over is that the boat has (3) electrical generators powered by Cat c18 engines. This is what many mid sized 60-100 ft boats use as the propulsion engine. Places like Yacht World and Denison Yacht sales usually have deck plans included in the pic set. All things equal, I think a Westport 130 would be enough to meet my needs, plus it is pretty.
Want an Ice breaking expedition superyacht? Look for Damen's SeaXplorer with the double acting hull. Breaking Ice Astern and having great sea keeping behaviour through the Axe form bow. At 75m they can even have a double heli hangar ;)
The deck you are not seeing on the plan is the bilge deck, where all the big tanks are located. It's usually never shown as an actually accessible deck since you can usually only get in there through scuttle access hatches not to mention it's classified as a hazard area (dangerous fumes, as well as flamables)that is restricted access to engineering staff only.
Another awesome video! Love your channel so much. One of these days, it would be cool if you show any of the technical spaces. Would be cool to hear more detail on how Planet Nine is powered too. Must be some amazing redundancy to make it able to visit high latitudes. Anyway, thanks for all the great content!!!
The tanks are shown. If you look in the engine room, you see squares with a X in them. These are the tanks of the vessel.
is it normal on yachts, that crew members have to share 1 bed for 2 or more persons?
This is LITERALLY one of Admiral's few yachts in the US. And nobody owns it, still
Pretty large crew for something short of 80 meters, any thoughts as to why the crew requirement is so high? I see many 70-80 meter with crew requirements below 20.
I think anyone traveling with the owner/charter guest does not count towards required crew.
Crew quarters look nice, maybe small toward forward, but the private head for each room is nice.
Might have to do with the compliance of the class the boat is licensed under.
This vessel has more volume due to additional decks. In addition there needs to be crew for the helicopter. Some of the crew may only be on board when the owner and/or his/her guests are. Like if the helicopter stays at the owner's residence or a nearby facility. Some yachts run with a smaller crew, until guests are on board. More crew is brought on for such instances.
And yes, as someone else pointed out, there are regulations in place to ensure there is enough crew to handle and maintain the vessel without over working any of the crew. Granted, if there are terribly demanding guests and a cheap owner, the crew can be over worked. Sadly it's a culture where nobody dares to speak up. Unfortunately it'll take a tragic series of events before real change and accountability is put in place. The same can be said for cruise ship staff and crew. And some crew will ask to work double shifts in order to take time off at a particular destination. But a double shift is not working two eight hour shifts, it's working two 10-18 hours shifts. This means one crew member could be up 32 hours. Obviously a captain or first mate wouldn't do such a thing. However, another crew member responsible for your safety or theirs do. The danger of a deadly mistake is there if proper protocol is not followed. One young man did just that. He worked two shift, went out for a drink with the rest of the crew but decided to return before everyone else for some much needed sleep. The yacht was locked. So he decided to climb to the top deck to see if one of the access door was unlocked. Unfortunately he fell off the boat, hit his head and died. He was sleep deprived and added to that a little alcohol. The mix of the two severely impaired his judgement causing the fall. I don't know if the double shift was his choice or was necessary to ensure guest comfort. Either way it was a tragic loss of a sweet young man. The lives of his fellow crew members, his family, and friends was changed forever. According to his mum: as expected in the yachting world, the crew had to put this tragic death aside and pick up new charter guests, Brad & Angelina, the very next day.
Cameron Hollis That happened on a boat that the Pitts chartered?
Cameron Hollis I don't doubt that yacht crews are often overworked, but young people go out drinking and get themselves hurt making bad decisions all the time. I don't see how that was the fault of the yacht owner and I'm not surprised that they stayed on schedule considering how much is paid to rent a yacht for a week.
There are VIP suites and VIP cabins and they are different. The cabins are bedroom/sitting room with ensuite, the suites have a separate lounge/dining room. There is one opposite the staff cabin on the lower deck as well as the one on the upper deck. So it has the owners suite, 2 VIP suites and 3 VIP cabins.
My point is if all the cabins are VIP then they’re not really VIP. They are just guest cabins. It’s like all employees in Starbucks are known as ‘partners’, but they’re not really.
What is the name of the beautiful Sailing acht in the background ?
So Beautyful YACHT and I like so much
What do think the yearly overhead is to have a full time crew and the boat at sea the whole time? My guess with fuel $12 million.
The luxury yacht Legend is a converted Russian icebreaker. Beautiful yacht. I think it's 77m.
What are the domes for? Radar or communication?
Everybody who's been around pleasure boats knows the old saying:
- "The two greatest days in a boat owner's life are they do you buy the boat........ aaaand the day you sell the boat."
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Boats are an insane amount of work to own no matter the size.
The yacht T6 which is for sale with y.co is about 55m long and has a helicopter hangar as well. Yacht asking price just 20m EUR.
With regard to crew cabin size, check the converted tug boat Ariete Primo. She has 4 crew cabins for 8 people and 2 cabins (=4 crew) share 1 bathroom. Even more packed. She is roughly 40m with 1 owner and 5 guest cabins. And she is for sale as well...
I don't see how 26 people can sleep in the crew quarters as I've counted 8 bunk beds cabins and 4 double beds cabins (captain, first officer, engineer and pilot) unless these four are married to crew members and you also count the staff cabin (two singles).
Andre Cavalcanti half of them will be resting while the other are working
@@yoelkevin5121 Shouldn't matter - each person gets their own bunk. They all have uniforms and toiletries to store - you aren't going to store a week's worth of uniforms for four people in one room.
Official listing shows crew size 22. When he shows the vast majority of the crew cabins and says for "26," he's wrong. There are 10 cabins, which would house 20 max. Including the Captain's cabin, that makes 22; however, considering the Captain, First Officer, Engineer, and Heli pilot all have their own rooms (unless it's a rarity where they're dating a crew member and sharing rooms), the crew size is probably 18 max, 12 optimally.
www.fraseryachts.com/en/yacht-for-sale/planet-nine/
www.yatco.com/vessel/info/239807/240ft-73m/2018/admiral-for-sale-italy
Probably a dumb question, but when you mentioned the drop down hanger and the possibility of the heli sliding off. Is a heli strapped down on these boats always?
The helo would be strapped down but if the weather is rough enough you could still lose it. We did a very rough trip in the Med last year with a 5 tonne helo on our deck and the pilot was super stressed as the weather was bad. He thought a few times we’d lose it.
Great video - and I really enjoyed the coverage of the deck plans - thanks for that! I am curious about what kind of helicopter they have on board - almost all civilian helicopters do not have folding rotors, which of course are necessary for the hangar stowage, along with a fuel pump down system, both of which make it "Navalized". Geoff Rohde
Geoff Rohde: The helicopter shown in the plan was an Agusta (Leonardo) A109S. This aircraft can be fitted with a blade-folding kit, as an optional extra.
Truly breathless reporting
15 crew beds and 19 seats in mess according to the plans.
So in the space you said was for 26 people to live in I only counted 17 beds. So some of the beds never get cold I gather?
The crew cabins are bunk beds. Each cabin has two bunks.
I love this Yacht...
I don't understand well... The owner's space has two double beds? One in the owner's cabin, and another in the owner's lounge...?
counting crew beds 20 beds total so those four dbl beds get designated crew significant others ?
Beautiful yacht,if only
I think Yatch Chopi Chopi has the best Captan and crew quarters at least that I’ve seen. The Captan on Chopi Chopi has what they call his own “ apartment “ it seriously looks like a really nice VIP cabin and the crew mess and quarters is quite nice. The CEO of CRN was interviewed and said owner believes in happy crew happy boat and specifically asked for spacious Captan and crew quarters.
5:54 can someone please explain how the hanger door works? If the helicopter has landed, how do they open the door? And it certainly can't be open when the helicopter lands...
There is a lift inside the hangar. It rise as the doors open to create a large area. Once the helo has landing and rotors folded the lift lowers into the hangar and the doors close.
@@YachtReport So the door _is_ open when the helicopter lands. Gotcha.
Would you explain in a video what all the different domes do on these mega yachts?
Hi, I’ve actually done this in various videos.
@@YachtReport sorry for the ignorance, but can you let me know which. I'm very intrigued
Here’s one How much does it cost to hire a SuperYacht for 1 week? ruclips.net/video/Otpvl6Xh9P4/видео.html
Also look at ‘how much is internet’ video
WOW the running costs for this would be enormous! A crew of 26 is like running a small business. figure 80k on average per year per person
Got some good points,sir.
👋THANKS ESYSMAN ,just watching now, 🤔 what is the current status for this yacht ?💚💚💚
There's another video on this yacht filmed more recently.
@@YachtReport what is it,please
Love your channel :)
This type of market is very slow. It can take years until a sale is finalized. Buyers are scarce, and those from that small percentage of the income bracket tent to be very specific about what they want. So if you're already thinking of a shiny new toy, it's better to put it up for sale straight away.
Buyers are scarce? You should go to the Monaco Yacht show, there are buyers in their hundreds.
Have question for you; Has anyone done a luxury Submarine? Windows, Range, crew??
the reason the domes are smaller is new technology. the vp 11 sats can support bandwidth of the large domes
Larger domes have better range the further north or south from the equator. With it being an expedition yacht this would have been why they were fitted. It’s not the size of the dome that dictates the throughput.
Tenet brought me here!
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I don't actually want a yacht or private plane, because they cost too much.
If I had a yacht it would be "Planet Nine" (pictured).
1:29 🤔 Is Mangusta 165 "BlackLegend" behind on the right...???
I love sooooo much Overmarine Mangusta yachts, especially the 165🛥...😍😍😍!!! P.S. in this case proud to be italian!!!
2:43 "Eclipse" yacht...what a BEAUTY 👍🏻
Is it necessary to have all that crew? Can that ship/boat run with 20 or less crew? Sorry i'm no expert(only started watching yachts for a week) so this question might sound dumb.
Well, it probably can but it runs better with a bigger crew. Most of that number will be interior and deckhands.
When the boat is on charter or guests aboard they run shifts around the clock. Guests are looked after 24/7 There's always a crew member on watch, fire/security watch and a crew member on call for that midnight snacking guest. Watch Below Deck on TV. It's pretty accurate, trust me😉
Don’t forget of that 20 is at least a captain, first mate, and a few deck hands.... but it includes the staff that do the housekeeping too, a cook, etc. Staff adds up fast but you can’t always double up on roles. The captain won’t be doing the laundry any time soon....
The yacht in Tenet
do you accept E-Transfer ?
I want to mention one thing I didn't see anybody else say in the comments. As small as the crew area is, they will usually be running two or three shifts. Therefore the galley, for example ,will never have 26 crew eating at once. And even though the crew quarters have bunks, they may be on opposite shifts, so the room is "private" sometimes.
Well all boats are different. But there are times when crew will eat staggered yes because of work especially with guests onboard. However there are plenty of times, in fact the majority of the time in my experience that most if not all the crew will sit and eat together.
Which yacht has Heli hanger then pilot in house or they come from every time on call?
When the boss is going to use the boat and needs a Helo, it will usually be dispatched to the boat a day or Teo before. Then when the boss arrives on his jet, the helo will go and collect him from the airport. Pilot stays onboard until the boss leaves.
@@YachtReport thanks a lot
Didnt james packer have an icebreaker yatch?
I love this format do make like this
I would think the captains cabin door should be off the bridge not the owners lift lobby.
Couldn't fail to notice that one of the owner's lounges has a bed in it. So its intimacy with the 'nieces' is like those weak heli landing pads: touch and go.
LOL! Only 16 guests but 26 crew members? damn!
Its kinda made for a Bond-villain with the heli-hangar and the ice class
Tried to watch this video till the end but one ad per each two minutes... really?
owner is Nat Rothschild. i parties on this Yacht with Ivy Atwood, she’s a direct descendant of the family and a heir to the fortune. they went to Mykonos for a month over 2 weeks ago and i was there. beautiful yacht. we were jumping off the starboard side into the water
Oh you were? Do you have any proof?
FlightEvolution Brian Williams was there and reported it.
The crew are well provided for. Only 2 crew per cabin, some yachts squeeze in 3. A full size ensuite per cabin. Double beds for senior officers. Separate crew mess/galley, often they are combined, and they don't down tools and eat all at the same time, no Scottish unions here m'laddy. The only time you might get it fill would be if the Captain wants to speak to everyone before a charter. They have another lounge area, gym as well. This is not a huge megayacht so a hanger is great. One thing missing, or did I er miss it, a pool. The smaller communication 'balls' may be due to a different system being chosen that uses a higher frequency hence smaller satellite dishes.
Ok all new MLC compliant yachts are required to have a gym. They had to make it mandatory to ensure the crew had somewhere to exercise. And again MLC boats cannot have more than 2 people in a cabin, again a rule had to be implemented to stop squeezing too many people into a boat. As for crew mess, if the owner or guests are onboard then yes it’s unlikely the crew will eat at the same time. However in yard periods and when there are no guests the crew generally eat together. Antennas require a large dish to increase limits of reception. The further away from the equator you go the larger dish you need to continue getting a reception.
No pool. To fit this sort of helicopter capacity on an expedition yacht this size, compromises have to be made all over the place. The heli hangar ends up where the pool would've normally have been, and also uses up the pool's weight allowance.
Also, many owners are disappointed with their final project, it doesn't meet their expectations from my research
Often I suspect they have a vision of what they want, they express that vision and are given what they asked for, but what they asked or is not necessarily what they wanted. And over a 2-3 years build period maybe they changed and did not realise. Same thing happens delivery software projects to business people.
Heli hanger is mainly to protect the heli when in bad conditions like the arctic
2:30 What is that black sail boat in the back?
Is there any ships that solely deliver helicopters
So Dilbar is Planet 9 bigger than the next biggest yacht (Assam).
I REALLY wanna see a full fat icebreaker yacht. With the latest technology I'm sure she could be made comfortable in a swell and boast half decent speed with biblical range. Surely that's gotta be the ultimate billionaire's toy to truly get away from it all
Can you do more of these please
The GAs (general arrangements) or plans are not easy to come by. They are usually kept from the public domain. In this instant they were published on the Agency website. When I come across others I’ll do something similar.
I like blueprints takes me back to high school