How should the MCU introduce the X-Men?
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Mutants have started showing up throughout the MCU leading many to believe that the X-Men are finally on their way to join the universe. The age old question for years has been how and when they'll make their debut, so in this video I pitch how I think Marvel should do it. It's basically an excuse for me to talk about my favorite X-Men and rant about the Fox Universe. It's good.
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Chapters:
00:00 - The Mutant Saga
01:02 - Don't do it this way
02:07 - Secret Wars
03:03 - Anthology series
03:55 - Cyclops
04:43 - Storm
05:17 - Nightcrawler
05:54 - Kitty Pryde
06:33 - Iceman
07:29 - Rogue
08:28 - Uncanny X-Men
09:21 - The Wolverine problem
10:24 - X-Factor
11:21 - Avengers vs. X-Men
11:54 - To me, my X-Men
12:40 - Outro 
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WOAH. I just Binge watched so many of your vids and then clicked off of one to sub and realized you somehow only have 1k subs?!? How is that even possible with this incredible editing and script! You're definitely gonna blow up soon these videos are too good for you not too
Also I don't know a whole lot about the Marvel universe but this list seems really good. The explanation of the characters and how they would work together is so good I can visualize the entire next phase of Marvel 🤣
Why are you going to rant about The Fox Universe? Fox may have made a few bad X-Men Movies, but overall, they made a lot of great X-Men Movies and they're made more great X-Men Movies than bad.
I really think the X-Men are the mcu's main way to come back into that same kind of relevance it had during the infinity saga.
hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.
the real question is...can they follow the comics and not their own made agenda
@@power279 is this "agenda" in the room with us right now?
@@power279 bruh...
They’re bringing in two major teams just to get that relevance again. It’s scary
You know in Deadpool 3 Wolverines going to look at the yellow costume and Wade will say "What would you prefer? Black leather?"
oh, my god, i can totally see this line being written before the rest of the script
that would be a joke that's already dated before it released then.
Go check out the latest X-Men '97 trailer . . .
Cyclops said the exactly same phrase to Cable in X-Men '97's latest trailer
@@pablocasas5906, lol really? Considering who Cable is that's a wild quip from Cyclops
Never forget that James Marsden is such a good actor that he somehow makes being Sonic the Hedgehog's adopted human dad work
He was so fucking wasted as Cyclops
Begging he gets to make an appearance in Deadpool & Wolverine to get some justice
@@WholeShebangYT In order to make great AvsX you need :
1)Well established Avengers team. Classic roster (we already loose this opportunity)
2)Well establish mutant roster (main and you could take young - like New Mutants or something like that) - we not even close to that
3)Mutant and Avengers crossover where they fight against common enemy (in order to create bonds of false friendship and present X man as a Hero team). In terms of Saga - this should serve role of first Avengers film
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4)Well establish mutant "hate " problem (so you need at least 1 film with anti-mutants fanatics, sentinels and USA government support all of this from the shadow, while pretend like nothing happened in public). After first team up with Avengers in several next "in between" X man films Marvel need to explore hate against mutants and rise hit up with each passing film stray to the second "Avengers 2" X man film. Reason for this is simple - you need to show that no matter how heroic X man would try to be, humans would merely tolerate them at best and most likely want to genocide them all out hate, fear and envy. Also this would show that Avengers DONT CARE about mutants. They protect humanity only
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5)Second crossover with Avengers - Day M with all consequence. Avengers see how mutant dominant world could look like and they terrify about it. So they decide to take close look after remain small group of mutants
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6)In final phase - all "in between" movies would be about struggle to survive of remain small group of mutants (Utopia kind of story). And here we come into AvsX. In part one - Avengers receive information that mutants find a way to restore the power (Phonex power) they lost during Day M. Considering immense grudge mutants hold against Humanity, Avengers decide to act quickly - they decide to attack mutants before they were able to gather their forces. War begins and part one end up with Humanity loose this fight due rise of the Fenix Five.
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Part two - Fenix Five instead of go in revenge mode, decide to build utopia on Earth where mutants and humans could peacefully coexist with each other (Xsavier dream in action). But out of greed, fear (to loose power and influence) malice humanity (in face of Avengers) decide to destroy everything (with classic fairytales about free will and democracy) and because of this idiots we would see Dark Fenix influence rising inside Fenix Five
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Epilogue - Avengers (who always were villas in this story) out bad human traits and habits with their own hands destroy humanity own chance on peace future for everyone. Xsavier dream get destroyed because humans would never accept it even if you build a paradise for them
@@WholeShebangYT Also i would make young mutants teams (like New Mutants) in TV format (so you could have enough screen time to establish their characters) and put them against more normal ground threats like mutant haters. Reason is simple - teenagers are more vulnerable toward such things as unprovoked hatred because you are born different. Struggle between "follow Xsavier dream" and desire to punish those bullies with your super power even if it means you would proof their point - should be interesting
And then we just find out he wrote a letter defending a child abuser. On the same week X-Men 97 hit its peak and showed Cyclops at his best.
It's almost symbolic.
John Marston
Angel has also been done dirty in every live-action adaptation.
Who would you cast as Angel? Armie Hammer would have been my choice before his scandal. I’d probably go with Alex Pettyfer now.
Its a grear concept but you cant do a sinister movie without jean grey his obsession with her and cyclops is insane
The whiplash of not one mention of Jean Grey, the heart of the X-men 😭
Other than that, nice video!
Jean Grey shouldn’t be the heart, more of a maternal figure. I think the heart should be Kitty.
I love Jean so much it pained me to not mention her but after having such a big focus and two botched phoenix sagas, she needs some time to cool off unfortunately but she definitely needs to be involved eventually
I don’t think Jean needs time off, I think the Phoenix does. They need Jean to be a mainstay like she was in Evolution. Then! Avengers vs. X-men could be over the Phoenix in Jean as a way to tell the story right but also add a new element. A way to redo the Phoenix saga without redoing the entire saga. Jean is my favorite, so this is completely biased. We need to actually know and love Jean then just Mary Sue her up. Her and Storm also need a deep, meaningful friendship. That would be nice to see.
@@WholeShebangYT I disagree, the fantastic four also had two botched attempts - they’re getting a movie. Jean grey wasn’t botched as a character (I would argue not even badly cast) the Phoenix saga needs to be told properly with comic accuracy, it cannot and should not be a grounded story! It should be an epic space adventure - but FIRST they have to do jean, they can’t just rush straight into the dark Phoenix. Dark phoenix is one of the best selling X-men comics of all time and it deserves to be told properly in live action. We also can’t get avengers vs xmen without jean introducing the Phoenix force.
That's very fair! Both actresses did a great job and Jean is incredibly important to the X-Men that it would be hard to tell a story without her@@bingeful6508
It is a shame that the X-Men movies treated Mystique with more respect than they did Scott and Storm, it's not hard to get Xavier and Erik right cause the dynamic itself is just perfect you only need talent to match, and whenever the true MCU Wolverine crops up, it's gonna be a big deal cause he's *the* mutant Marvel hero, but as far as the team itself; Scott and Storm are to the X-Men what Steve Rogers and Iron Man were to The Avengers and no matter what i hope whoever's handling their MCU introduction can grasp that.
It was prolly because she was a hot model willing to play the character almost naked 🤦🏻♂️
>X-Men movies treated Mystique with "more respect"
>Made one of the most constant wild card villain and infamous chronic backstabber a hero
Yeah, right. They did give her more screentime, but they sure as hell didn't give the character respect. That said, I agree with the other half of your paragraph.
I would add one more mutant to your list. A mutant that needs the spotlight. He’s badass and adds a romance to the x-men that can keep people invested. Of course I’m talking about Gambit. He’s such a cool character and it’s a shame he has only appeared once in the worst x-men movie.
He has a great set of powers and has a very interesting relationship with Rouge.
If I had more time I would've 100% added Gambit. He and Rogue are so fun together and he's been handled so poorly in live action
I like the idea of wolverine being added later like what happened to spider man
having the first x-men film w Cyclops but no Jean is WILD
Add Havoc Cyclops brother to highlight a young Scott’s life, also add Gambit and show him meeting Rogue
I complete agree with this concept including the line up, but I really think Jean and Beast are crucial and needed members. Mr. Sinister is always focused on Scott and Jean, and I think it’d be nice to call back to the OG 5 with maybe Angel being experimented on by him. I also would consider having Gambit.
That was the perfect list of X-men. I think they should definitely give them a Disney plus show where each episode focuses on one mutant. Great idea and video
An amazing video, you did a great job, i really believe that one day you will hit 100k subs, maybe even 1 million subs, i always love your content!
I think another thing to help top off the mister sinister villain role would be to have the X-men save someone he’s experimenting on and have it turn out to be Madelyn Pryor. This can hint to Jean grey and can spice up the Jean/scott/Maddie dynamic with the clone being the first version Scott meets.
Plus if they introduce Maddy first they can lowball her powers and bump them up for Jean afterwards showing off her being an omega level mutant worth cloning.
Oh I really love this idea
give me more ice puns snow good
meh I'mma be honest. They should just reboot it at this point. The series ended at Logan for me.
Glad that Kitty Pryde was highlighted here. Such a great character too 5 for me. Here’s hoping she will be a focal point in the MCU. Bronze Age Kitty Pryde.
#1 change to this list is adding my fave x man-gambit
Great video! First new one I’ve seen since subscribing. I agree with almost everything in the video and love the X-Men you highlighted that NEED more spotlight. Would absolutely be down for an anthology series that highlights each core member. That would be brilliant!
I’m really hoping they can do this team justice, especially as someone who also heavily despised how the Fox universe was handled.
hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.
You get it 🤝
They better put some respect on my man Cyclops name this time.
Great video! Glad I discovered your channel :)
Great video and great channel!
Subscribed.
I got a good idea of how to bring them in without the need of a multiversal jump. What if The X-Gene has always been around but generally dormant in most humans?
Some like Charles Xavier and Magneto and the adult X-men have known about it for years. In fact Xavier is the one who helped discover it and it is named after him and wants to bring mutant gene awareness.
But because the world has now seen more super powered beings and cosmic threats over the years, humans are beginning to adapt, because nature finds a way and we see more and more of the X-Gene being awakened in humans and especially young children.
This terrifies people and parents as not everyone wants to be "diagnosed" with super powers. They see it as a disease. This will put society in conflict.
Should we accept a world where more and more superhumans will live among us? Or do we put laws against them?
X-Men deserved to be in the MCU since most of the X-Men comics had the best characters
YESSSSS I would love for Alpha Flight to be in live action! Theyre so cool and diverse, I loved them since their one appearance in an episode of xmen animated series. ALSO, I would love for Wanda to actually be a mutant and Magneto's daughter this time. like PLEASEEEE
They definitely need to retcon Wanda into a mutant. They heavily teased it but it’s long overdue for them to say it
YOOOOO an Xfactor show would be so fun to watch!!! Like one of those police dramas, The mentalist slyle has so much potential! You just have to make it compeling and fun.
I had the same idea with Storm, have her meet T’Challa’s son, after he’s gotten older, and they become a couple. With Wolverine’s story, I thought it’d be cool to see Marvel do his actual introduction. Where he’s introduced after finding the Hulk fighting the Wendigo
As a kid my dad got me into comics so when the x men movies came out we got hyped then we saw those costumes and literally together walked out and I can tell it was the right choice
I just want Cyclops as the badass leader that he is 🙌🏼 that's all that i ask for
Who's in the panel at 11:11?
The anthology idea is great
Have episodes like Wolverine and the X-Men where we have a Storm focused episode where Charles save a young Storm Shadow King and the two battle in the Astral dimension and Storm doesn’t have to join the team then because she’d be a child and then have a separate episode like the Cyclops episode where we see him wake up from his coma and getting bullied whilst he lives at an orphanage and Charles rescues him when he almost destroys the orphanage
One of the best choice in a fox movie was First Class making Charles the main character and this anthology could be based around Charles and told out of order/episodically and not really connected so Charles could be walking in some episodes and in his wheelchair in others
WHAT ABOUT ANGEL!!!
Angel you will not be forgotten let him be in the movie
Rogue vs Capt Marvel....yeah, I wanna see that in the future as well.
I’m hoping Jacob Elordi is cast a Cyclops
If not him maybe Wolfgang Novagratz or Nick Robinson
I’d like to see a young team
Like similar ages to X-Men Evolution
Where Beast, Wolverine and Storm as all older than the others
I really want to see rouge, cyclops, night crawler, and gambit in the mcu
I would have thought that they used scarlet witch to awaken all the mutants with her reality warping abilities, but ultimately I think it would be better to have them “exist already”. Xavier and Magneto with the mutants that follow them would virtually be an afterthought due to the craziness of what Shield/Hydra and then later the Avengers went through.
We’d probably get backstories similar to Captain Marvel/ the winter soldier/ Captain America/ and the Eternals showing that Mutants have always existed and have already been integrated into society. A major catastrophic event (Similar to an Avengers movie) would get people to notice mutants and start being prejudice to them.
What about Gambit and Colossus?
Great video!
Dude you nailed it you should write a treatment
How bout a series about Gambit’s background and call it “The Bayou.”
Starting from Captain America and Wolverine saving a young Eric, who later becomes Magneto and meets Charles Xavier, who'll be Professor X. Winter Soldier and Sabertooth can also come into the picture at same time.
It would be kind of a weird retcon if they maybe show some scenes with Steve, Bucky and the Commandos in WWII alongside Logan but it would be pretty cool. The problem with Eric is that his backstory as an Holocaust survivor wouldn't make too much sense in regards his age. I know that in the main Marvel Comics Universe some characters have managed to become younger, either with science or magic, but I think it would be kind of weird to explain
I wanna see an episode or something with wolverine meeting and teaming up with captain america since they were friends. also i wanna see them with rebooting Morph and and his friendship with wolverine since we really don't get to see wolverine laugh.
Hot take, I want an exploration of Logan & Storm’s relationship!
Liked for "bamf" on nightcrawler!
They got to keep Cyclops in center though
I would love to see on the team: Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean, Storm, phylock or Emma frost, and a not well known x-men
The next saga should be heavily focused on the xmen and the fantastic four, those can both easily carry multiple phases alone
I think it’d be interesting if they took aspects from Hickman’s Krakoa arc and combine it with the 1960s era of the Fantastic Four. So, if it were me, I’d establish a couple things about Mutants: their powers come from the X-Gene like the comics, they have always existed, but Mutants live longer/age differently than humans because they’re more evolved than humans. So, I would make it so that Charles Xavier forms the X-Men in the 1960s where they met heroes like the Fantastic Four and maybe Blue Marvel if the MCU wants to introduce him too. They had their adventures fighting Magneto, Mr. Sinister, etc. But I would reveal that everything changed when Charles met Moira MacTaggert. She reveals to him that something catastrophic is going to happen to him and all of Mutant kind at some point in the future. So, Charles makes amends with Magneto and from there the Mutants abandon Earth with the help of the Fantastic Four where they establish Arakko on Mars led by Storm and Magneto, while Xavier and Moira remain on Earth hidden on Krakoa with the X-Men as they secretly fight to prevent the coming apocalypse of Moira’s past life. But the Celestials discovered the existence of Mutants despite Moira’s best efforts and have now returned with the newly remade Eternals to wipe out the supposed “Deviants”. Prompting a war between the Eternals and X-Men that traps the Earth in the crossfire. So, if it were me, I’d do the Mutant Saga in two parts: half would be set in the 60s where the X-Men fought their classic villains, while the other half would be set in the modern day as the X-Men use several different teams and individuals to handle and manipulate outcomes both on Earth and in space to avoid the detection of the Celestials and the Eternals. I think that’d be a cool way to tie them into the MCU.
They should do away with previous movie versions and reset - starting with a Cyclops solo movie to start the X-men universe and set the tone for why he is the true leader - and bring in some OGs during that - Beast, Iceman, Jean & Angel. Then bring in the awesome characters that came later with Night crawler, Storm, Wolverine, etc either with there own movie (or combined) or via a streaming show. Real trick is to make sure story is good with a good villain
The main line Avengers, especially Iron Man, was the face of the MCU. I like to imagine that the 4th phase is a weird resting phase. the XMen can and should be the new face of the MCU.
Amazing idea!
The radiation from the infinity gauntlet finger snap could be used as the source of mutation. That's why people distrust mutants, because it's connected to this great power that caused a nigh on apocalypse a few years ago. It's already established that one of the infinity stones created the mutant powers of Quicksilver and Wanda.
Had no idea about Bobby
I’d love a Wolverine anthology show where none of the episodes are really connected and depict different parts of his life with no real consequences and room for interpretation
- Have an episode based on the origin comics where he runs away from home with his friend Rose after the gardener (his real father) and his childhood friend (half brother) kill his family and his half brother tracks the two down when they’re adults and the two fight and Rose dies and Wolverine run away into the wild
- have an episode set in WW2 with the Howling Commandos
- have some Weapons Plus episodes
- Some episodes in Japan
- An episode where he’s in Alpha Flight and maybe he fights Hulk and the Wendigo in Canada maybe set after the Incredible Hulk which is why Bruce ends up in India
- even some flash forward episodes based on Old Man Logan
Each episode could end with some trauma that causes Logan’s mind to heal itself and cause memory loss like in the comics
The show could be a mix between X-Men Origins Wolverine and the Young Indy Adventures but good
Great ideas here
I agree with your idea. Best way for the MCU to introduce the X-Men is by putting 1 or 2 in all the upcoming movies so then down the line when enough have been introduced, they can form together for a true new X-Men movie.
They're gonna fuck it up! Have no doubt
I'm hoping after "Secret Wars"... When they start for All New, All Different - Marvel as "The MUTANT Saga": a bunch of young teen Mutants wish to become their own kind of Heroes that they want to be, with some Familiar Avenger Heroes guiding the way!
I think they’ll go the route of merging universes via an incursion and or wolverine will be allowed to go from his old universe into the main 616 universe and then we’ll slowly see more mutants show up (if I’m right inhumans is canon so we already know they exist in the mcu)
we want Gambit!!!!!!!!!!!
It’d actually be really easy just have a movie that is a mix of the Gambit focused episodes from X-Men TAS and X-Men Evolution
Have it be a Thieves Guild vs Assassins Guild movie and maybe have Mister Sinister as the villain in the shadows
Bro this is literally dream scenario. Only thing that can save the MCU🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
In fairness to the Infinity Radiation thing WRT to Magneto and other earlier mutants, isn't it a thing in the comics that whilst mutants existed for centuries, the dawn of manmade nuclear fission made them more common? Like aren't they called the children of the atom?
So it isn't too much a stretch to have a few mutants from before the snaps and most from after.
I didn’t know that that’s actually really interesting! My only issue with that idea is that it’ll be too long since the snaps to introduce mutants almost a decade after infinity war and endgame, but that lines up really well with
I think that they should wait for a while to bring the X-Men into the MCU until the results of "Deadpool & Wolverine" comes in. There has been 8 well received Fox X-Men movies. Those 8 include the first "X-Men" movie, "X2", "X-Men: First Class", "The Wolverine", "X-Men: Days of Future Past", The "Deadpool" movies and "Logan". Including Dafne Keen's return as X-23.
there’s no reason to rewrite the x-men when we got these great stories since 2000 i think kevin feige knows this because he worked on those movies, classic x-men cast deserve to be in the mcu
Of all these movies, only Deadpool 1 and 2 hold up as true X-Men movies. There's a reason Ryan Reynolds is gonna be the only actor not replaced for the MCU.
Dafne Keene was absolutely amazing in Logan, but that story is over. If they're gonna do All-New Wolverine, they need to start from scratch and set it within the MCU with a new actress.
I dont believe we will get a captain marvel 3, but rogue should appear as a main character going forward
I think that the Fantastic Four, which is set inthe 60's, but mysteriously not present in the Infinity Saga, sets a reason why mutants don't exist there. Maybe the mutants have been misplaced in the timeline and that way you can tie in Magneto's holocaust backstory and other relevant themes from years past.
The Marvels showed mutants being present in a different timeline, which makes the most sense, but is pretty disappointing when you think about the relationships of mutants and other superheroes like Spider-Man for example.
I really hope for a series that culminates in a movie!
Two ways the originaIceman, Cyclops,Angel, Beast , Iceman,, and Jean Grey lead by Xavier, then lead to the group like x men 90s animated. Any way they do it Cyclops should start as leader and Storm as well, but build the story around them as a team, working together men and women, etc dealing with The Sentinels, Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse, then Magneto, Mystique, Blob, juggernaught, Sabertooth, Pyro, and Toad as the brother hood
hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other.
now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.
They really need to get cyclops right this time. Its my #1 want.
James marsden actually wanted to be in spiderman 3 and asked to be taken out
My money is on them merging a different universe we haven’t seen yet with 616 in secret wars.
EDIT: I should’ve watched the whole vid before commenting 🤦🏽♂️
It would be cool if they introduced the X-Men by making a Spiderman and his Amazing Friends movie.
With a superhero landing
I honestly like the idea of
Professor x
Cyclops
Jean
Storm
Beast
Angel
Kitty aka shadowkat
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Then later introduce
Gambit
Wolverine
Rogue
0:00 Damn girl, you got a deep voice!
Professor X could not need to wipe people’s minds if Mutants just aren’t widespread
Just do live action X-Men evolution
The only mutants that have existed are the ancient and older characters in the X-Men continuity Apocalypse, Selene, Sabretooth Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, Mystique, Destiny, Shadow King, the Hellfire Club, Beast, Storm and some other older characters and the. Just have more main X-Men like Scott, Jean, Iceman, Rogue, Kitty, Nightcrawler and so on… all just being more recent mutants
Seems pretty simple
The plot could be more mutants are popping up so the public starts to become aware which pushes Magneto to recruit mutants and come out and attack humans which then makes Charles and his students come out to defend the humans and the mutant hate could come from the randomness at which mutants develop compared to other powered people and maybe the X-Men could wear masks like their original uniforms and be hated like Spider-Man
It doesn’t really seem too difficult
I would love tk see Iceman with a gay romance to bring home the whole metaphor of mutants being lgbt/poc people. People seem to miss that bit and just see cool powers.
It's such a fundamental part of the team, I don't understand how people miss it
Unlike a lot of these " fans " who claim to be Marvel Comics fans I never had a problem with the Eternals or Captain Marvel .
In fact I hope they actually follow up on that Eternals sequel .
I want to see the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the MCU .
I actually believe the lost in time story works .
There's a way to do this .
I want a story / movie about Captain Americas other WW2 adventures you can have him and Logan , the Howling Commandos Nick Fury Sr .
You can make Scott Summers , Storm , get the respect they deserve .
Nightcrawler was neglected too .
Angel was ignored except a small part here or there.
He has an awesome story .
Emma Frost is one of the most interesting people in the comics .
I hope they truly begin with the original team . Cyclops , Jean Grey , Beast , Ice Man , and Angel. Led by Professor Xavier .
I'm really hoping for this story .
Throw in the other Summers kids .
Havock , Vulcan , Extreme ,give us this story .
Wolverine could be introduced maybe give us an Alpha Flight movie .
Then give us that famous rescue story where a new team is picked to get most of the original team off Krakoa .
Come on MCU .
It's all possible .
Please do Not Make Scott Summers a hero turned evil .
IMO when Marvel comics turned Cyclops ( one of the most likeable heroes in Marvel Comics history ) into a sniveling ass hole it tore me up .
This storyline was far worse than the Clone Saga .
It's the worst story Marvel has ever told .
To introduce the mutants in the MCU, I would just establish that they were always there, but the public just thought they were just isolated incidents like the Avengers. Only few people (maybe someone like Bolivar Trask) knew that they were part of a population. The MCU X-men film could be the moment where the goverment learns about this information and beings to take action against the mutants, like creating the MRD or using the media to turn the public against the mutants.
My idea for the film is that it would be told by Kitty Pryde POV, much like in the comics, with the movie showing her discovering her powers, being recruit by the X-men and getting to know the team: Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Iceman and Angel. I would also have Beast but he would act more as second mentor, helping Xavier train the students (very similar to the X-men Evolution).
The villains, besides the goverment (represent by characters like Senator Kelly, Bolivar Trask and the MRD), would be the Hellions, the students of Emma Frost (alongside the Hellfire Club), with the film focusing on the rivalry between this two schools. While Xavier teach his students to fight to keep the peace between humans and mutants, Emma teaches her students to fight for mutant supremacy, with them not realizing that she is just using them to cause a war between mutants and humans so the Hellfire Club can manipulate both sides and make profit of the conflict.
As for Wolverine, I would introduce him in the sequel, alongside Colossus, Nightcrawler and Rogue, with their arrival playing a role in Cyclop's arc, with him having to adapt to new members who are not used to follow orders (wolverine being the biggest exemple)
Give us a variation of Ultimatum for the Mutant Saga
The MCU is dying already. They should probably focus on adapting stories that were actually good and not something that is widely considered to be the dumbest Marvel comics crossover story of all time
I just want mcu original casting
My friends and I are working on our own adapation where they're hiding out in the Cold War.
That sounds so cool!
My main issue with doing X-Men vs Avengers means going down a less that stellar storyline for Cyclops, as he goes deeper down the villain pipeline in that story. And if that’s ere to happen (I’d prefer it didn’t) it should be much further down the line.
Oh yeah I’m not a fan of that so I would say they simply don’t do that part
What if X-men '97 is the team that comes into the MCU so you don't have to revisit their origin stories or deal with having to wait to introduce the whole mutant universe? What if instead of an incursion, where one or two universes are completely destroyed, there is a convergence where 2 universes/realities merged into one? This could further explore other life memories, the Mandela Effect, and "you and I remember Budapest very differently." After the convergence, only a few Omega level mutants will "remember" that they've been displaced from their original timeline so Magneto can still have his Holocaust origin and remember it like he was a survivor not that long ago despite most everyone else not remembering the Holocaust in the MCU timeline because it was "way before their time". For example, what if Magneto always existed in the MCU timeline but was never a mutant or Holocaust survivor but the child of a Holocaust survivor and when the 2 Magnetos merge into one, the dominant mutant gene is the one that defines the character? So to Magneto, the Holocaust was his personal trauma but to the MCU, he only has a personal connection to the Holocaust because he is a child of a Holocaust survivor. By introducing the already established X-Men teams into the MCU, you can also include X-Factor, X-Force, New Mutants, and Generation-X so that everyone can have the X-Men they grew up with. MCU wouldn't have to retell all the stories done before but just revisit them through small flashback scenes or exposition dumps. MCU can even rewrite some of the older MCU movies by inserting mutants in them. Re-release and special edition media alone would generate additional profits. So when your children or grandchildren have only watched Endgame edition where the X-Men fought Thanos alongside the Avengers, you can tell them "you and I remember Endgame very differently." And this way, they can still put out plenty of content for the next 20 years by having a greater variety of characters to focus on instead of just the original X-Men or Avengers.
Thats literally the dumbest way they could possibly do that. Why ruin the best series they ever made by transplanting all of the characters from their established universe into the dumpster fire that the MCU Is? The MAU Is nearly perfect and any jackass who thinks that destroying it and removing the XMen from it just for the benefit of the MCU isn't a real Marvel fan and should no longer be allowed to voice their opinions on anything Marvel related
@@eagle_klaw_ The animated series and the live action can’t both exist simultaneously if they are going to make money on the movies. Season 2 is coming out next year and season 3 in 2026. Live action won’t come out until 2027 at least. The animated series can’t run for too long because as popular as it is among comic book readers and nostalgic X-Men fans, it is not increasing the subscriptions to Disney Plus or making Disney billions of dollars. There are not enough viewers to support keeping the X-Men animated longer than 3 seasons when they can potentially make billions on the live action. If Disney is smart, they will transition the creative team behind X-Men ‘97 to be the driving force behind the live action adaptations as well so they will be successful. So it’s not a dumb idea because you like the animated series more than live action. A single bad MCU X-Men movie will make more money than 3 years of X-Men ‘97 just because it won’t be Dark Phoenix. Enjoy your animated show. You will get at least 3 seasons. Also, if you’re going to critique, offer a better a better way to bring the X-Men into the MCU because that is what majority of Marvel fans want and they don’t want to wait another 5 to 10 years for it.
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Ehhh , if you're gonna go sinister then you gotta have Jean Grey . I'd go original 5 members and then add night crawler , colossus , gambit , rogue , and kitty . Not necessarily in a cameo appearances but maybe like mutants that sinister has been keeping tabs on in his files or something and then introduce them in the second movie with the x men getting to them before sinister does . Also am I the only one that lowkey wants to see what a comic accurate beast would like before the blue animalistic transformation or ... even going as far as saying what if in the second movie the og team is captured and experimented on (all except iceman and angel only cause they were rescued in time by the new team members mentioned earlier) and that's how we get the blue beast AND it can be how angel knows what sinister can do and when he's injured later in the movie he goes to Essex and apocalypse for help only to end up becoming the archangel for the third movie (also have Essex HINT at apocalypse being his boss but don't show him until the 3rd movie with archangel by his side)
The 1997 X-men animated stories were amazing...but the problem is disney is messing every comic book characters, you got few good characters but a lot of characters fell faced down 😢
Now there's a theory who says the x men will appear after kang dinasty and will be set on another universe wich is a worst idea since the whole mcu x men plot was supossed to be about having both characters co exist
They focused a lot on Wolverine in mt opinion.
I'd make it like they did with Avengers, introduce each one on separate projects then unite all of them in a big crossover, which would be the X-Men movie.
- First should obviously be Wolverine, he's the Iron Man of the group, he's the most famous, he's gonna get people hyped and he'll draw people in for the next characters. I'd cast Jon Bernthal in the role.
- Second should be Cyclops, he must be the Captain America to the group, the leader that motivates everyone and one of the main characters. Needs to be a young ripped actor with good speech.
- Third should be Storm, she must be the Thor of the group, the next in command that has this feeling of a goddess that inspires others. Needs to be a tall young actress that can do an egyptian accent with a deep voice tone.
- Fourth should be Beast, he must be the Hulk of the group, the brainiac and the monster that is constantly battling with his own dilemmas but always chooses what's best for everyone over himself. Needs to be an older actor with a shakesperian tone.
- Fifth should be Iceman, he must be the Ant-Man of the group, he's the sleazy cool dude that's always running out of trouble and back again. Just needs to be a charismatic skinny young actor.
- And sixth should be Jean Grey, she must be the Black Widow of the group, she's rough but also the heart of the group that keeps everyone together. Needs to be a sympathetic young redhead.
I'd leave others like Nightcrawler, Gambit, Rogue and Angel for the second iteration, to pace the stories out without rushing it all at once.
Mutants should've been their next saga! They're blowing their load WAY too soon with the Multiverse Saga! The proper order should've been:
- The Mutant Saga
- The Cosmic Saga
- THEN The Multiverse Saga
I hope and pray we get an xmen vs f4 storyline
The drama is low and high stakes
It keeps it terrestrial and realistic, and allows to fully explore a society that praises and honors people given powers over those who were born with it and being discriminated for it,
Allow for dr doom to be the villain slowly gaining ground and winning, pinning the heroes against each other have them be enemies of circumstance and not by choice
It allows Scott and profesor x to excel as leaders and give justification to magnetos vision for mutants perhaps even a similar storyline with magneto leading the mutants and being more antagonistic with humans as a result of what they have done to mutants time and time again
The mutants shine in struggle and in how they overcome it despite a society that works against them
We can have a whole fan base going team x men or team avengers/f4
It would be great for interest we need to stop the big multiverse and galaxy threats and keep it simple and tangible
Ok, Here me out. During secret wars the multiverse saga comes to and end with not one, but multiple different universes merging into a new prime earth like a soft reboot type of thing. Let existing characters continue, but bring back others. The Avengers can be back, the fantastic 4 will be here and so will the X-Men but sam can still be Captain America along with steve, Peter can continue as spider-man, and they can keep doing whatever the hell they're trying to do with the young avengers.
COOK
Said he didn't want them from another universe, but then does using secret wars as a way to bring them anyways
the dulled down everyone to give wolverine more shine that why
They proved that the X-Men are in a diff universe in the post credit in captain marvel 2
The Onslaught saga would be a better end
Earth 83 is looking pretty weak, not gonna lie. Saying mutant we're always "here" as in on 616 kinda works for me. Low key I liked the Foxverse (mostly) even dark Phoenix, but you're right about Cyclopse and Storm. Both need alot more shine, both in terms of power/skill and in terms of leadership capabilities. I'd like to see more nuance in Magneto's powers too...example water is a diamagnetic substance.... just saying. He's been important, but his powers are misunderstood. Also Iceman just got gayed a few minutes ago, so his lore is a bit curious. Definitely let Logan chill with Alpha Flight and fight Hulk and then later become an X-Man. Nathaniel Essex is a good villian to use, and maybe just maybe the Purifiers and the U-Men? Maybe.
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