@@kodanico9388 The internet: NoOoOoOoO!!1! Facebook can't sell my data, that's an invasion of my privacy! Also the internet: I'm going to do what's called a pro hacker move I've seen this exact comment on another video. Even if you disregard the obvious immorality of betraying your partner's trust and privacy, this seems sketchy at best.
@@BleydXVI It's a massive scam. I looked into it due to privacy concerns, and you not only have to pay the $15 to access it, you have to agree to automatic PayPal payments lmao it's farming money off creepers
You cannot efficiently evolve it/not at all until post-game when the best beauty enhancing berry becomes available. If you mess up by feeding it poorly mixed pokeblocks from the best pre-champion beauty enhancing berries, you don't get another chance to evolve it. Blending berries with the NPCs will almost always give less than perfect blocks.
@MERT KÜÇÜKTÜFEKÇİ i don't care much for palkia; it is admittedly OP due to its typing. I'm a big fan of design and so you are correct. Who is number 1 (in my heart) of those two... crystal was my first pokemon game.
@@jamesbolt1003 exactly. Someone mentioned needing to wait postgame for better blocks but thats not true. There are some good berries u can use in lillycove (the pomeg group) that can allow max beauty without waiting for the super berries.
@@qorv4973I know those berries. You are able to blend them well enough with those stupid helpers who miss the button press so much? I was never able to max the beauty thanks to them
Nuzlocking is not a sport it’s not competitive it’s a self implied challenge that’s it. the reason wolf is a pro is because he’s a multiple time champion and has redefined metas and broken some metas every since gen 5 the only people who think this guy is a pro is himself and the ten year olds who think he is edgy
@@curtisporter1949 while he does sound like a prick with that intro, you can't exactly mock him unless you could prove nuzlocking being easy. Otherwise, you'll only be seen as a bitter hater.
But nuzlocking is easy brother been playing these games ever since ive been six and in twenty two can do them in my sleep and he calls himself a pro just to get views anyone can beat a nuzlocking after 50 attempts
Wolf glick only got one chance to be champion that’s why he’s a professional this kid can’t even beat a nuzlocke on his first attempt he always fails to extend his views because he’s not good at anything else
For those that are curious and didn't also see WolfeyVGC's wideo's (you should go watch them if you haven't) since it wasn't included in this video, the item approach that WolfeyVGC decided upon was to only use them if it was absolutely necessary in order to not get completely wrecked, which I can definitely respect.
@@wjdelu6758 Nuzlockes are mostly hard rules with no exceptions. That 5 hit + 1 crit fury swipes death was completely unlucky, but rules are rules and the pokemon stays dead. If you decide that you can heal when you deem it necessary, then you can heal at any point by saying that it's necessary. I disagree that it's the same as no restrictions though since Wolfey has an audience to consider. More tension=more excitement, and fewer angry comments about how he could have done this or that to avoid using items.
@@BleydXVI I mean, a nuzlocke is a nuzlocke, doesn't really matter how hard the rules are or if they have exceptions. It is supposed to be challenging, but it's also meant for fun.
I don’t watch the streams, but I love all the content this guy has on the channel, even though he hates it. It’s inspired me to literally go back to pokemon and start re-memorising all the moves, mechanics, abilities, pokemon and tough battle encounters, so I can try my own hardcore nuzlocke.
I just realized how much harder and how much fun level caps, set mode, and no items make the game, because you then have a clutch moment when you win with a mon on less than 10HP in a fight -(then lose them to the next trainer bc you forgot to heal).-
I am regularly on the edge of playing a Nuzlocke due to this channel. But then I remember what playing Pokemon is like and drop the idea. Only thing that might make me do it is on an emulator on permanent speedup and it be either a Soulocke with a friend or we battle with our Elite 4 teams at the end. But its Pokemon so its not worth the time investment. I can just play any number of SMT games and I get a challenging monster catcher JRPG.
Wolfey's nuzlockes are pretty interesting - once he's in a battle, he works with what he has extremely well. Shedinja pivoting in Tate & Liza fight especially shows how good he can be at coming up with a successful strategy. However, his theorycrafting before the battle is a bit lackluster, partially due to missing game knowledge. Taunt & not outspeeding Banette, anticipating turn 1 explosion from Glalie, and planning to explode with Graveler didn't make much sense given that you just die to Psychic. Wolfey's in-battle plays + Game Knowledge + Patience to grind his pokemon properly likely isn't too far from PC's skill level.
@@aryman6589 they are both very good at Pokémon, but pc has more knowledge and skill against ai players and quirks and wolfey is better at reading human opponents and finding outs in dire situations which an ai would probably handle differently. Also remember that a competitive environment is also often a mind game at the same time as the regular game happens, but this doesn't apply to nuzlockes
@@Jellybeansatdusk definitely, he should’ve tried to burnt that Claydol with Dusclops while he had the chance. That would’ve made more of an impact in the long run, especially since the damage from from Earthquake would’ve been cut in half.
Mega Banette has Prankster anyway, which encourages you to half-shut your brain to Speed stats because priority go brr. Not surprised that this gap carried over to base Banette.
"sydney was just ahead of his time" honestly, i would bet that they planned the phys-spec split for gen 3, even planning several mons around it, but couldn't implement it due to either cart space or time restraints
Yeah it had to be something like that cause I can't imagine after making mons like sneasel that GF didn't know they had to change how move damage was decided.
@@AquamarineVGC In Gen 3 Sceptile works wonders as a Special Attacker, Leaf Blade is Grass type so Special in this gen and a crazy good move overall, it gets Dragon Claw (Dragon is Special) and I think it also gets Thunder Punch (Electric also Special), Pursuit is there too.
@@treasuremage7546 Maybe, but with Kaizo's difficulty, team changes and (possibly) more intelligent AI? I just feel like Steven is harder than Wallace, but maybe that's just me.
@@Miro_X Oh sure, with Kaizo teams or better AI absolutely. Just for any regular or randomized run having to prepare for 26 pokemon is considerably harder than having to only prepare for 6.
The problem with that is that nothing in Emerald naturally prepares you for Steven's level jump. Nothing scales in post-game so the highest farmable trainers are the Elite Four between 50 to 60. Steven has high 70s... and it's just kind of a fight? There's no build up, you just go to the cave and fight him. At least Red is this final ascent up a big mountain you've never been to before. Him being a Steel/Rock specialist also means the battle is very polarizing; unlike the Elite Four where you have to contend with five distinct trainers in a row, you can hyper-focus your team into countering him and it's really easy if you're actually willing to grind Pokemon that high. Red's fight also sucks, for the record. His garbage team is carried by Gen 2's abysmal level scaling. Pikachu is terrible, Charizard and Blastoise stopped being particularly noteworthy long before Gen IV, Snorlax and Lapras are good but need status moves and/or a competent player/AI piloting them _who are actually willing to switch out_ and Venusaur is too easily countered as a Grass/Poison type with no coverage. Like if your team is even in the 70s this fight is easy.
@@SuperBeanSquad Adding on to that, at least with Red, there are multiple big post game fights after the champion besides Red that lead up to him, in the form of the Kanto gym leaders, so it feels like the “story” expects you to continue past the champion, as opposed to Steven just being a fight you can do.
To be fair in most challenged not even just nuzlockes gyarados is just a strong pokemon. Intimidate good damage water flying both pretty useful. Basically impossible to not get due to magikarps common Ness
I mean, they're both experts of their respective areas of Pokemon. It's not that surprising that there would be a mutual respect between the two of them. Plus Jan is pretty based and, although I haven't watched much of Wolfey, I'm guessing he is too.
People talk about how RUclips is cringe and Twitch is based but.. Every time we get a video, its full of people from Twitch saying "HI RUclips", thirsty and desperate to communicate with us.. but they never get a "HI TWITCH" back, we're too good for them. The debate is settled.
@@ramteja1550 I think it’s more of a hi I was here for this event that was recorded and will be uploaded and saved on the internet forever kind of thing. But maybe it is more of a “ha I saw this first” kind of way
Because....we can see the twitch people say hi. They can't see youtube people say hi back since its later. You don't say hi back because you are worth more than them, its because it makes no sense to.
@@ramteja1550 think of it this way. The ONLY twitch streams where people say "hi youtube" are speedruns they know will be uploaded. Which, basically, are PB's and WR's. Nothing condescending about predicting/knowing a speedrun will be a wr is there?
Fool me once - I'm mad. Fool me twice - How could you? Fool me three times - You're officially that guy, okay? You know him, you know the one. You go to the bar and he's like, 'This suit is, uh, officially it's a Giorgio Armani, ech my dad knows him!' FUCK YOU! I AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIN'T HAVIN' THAT SHIT!
I remember getting Feebas as a kid and not knowing how to evolve so I got it to lvl 100 thinking "wow a pokemon that must evolve at lvl 100 that's so cool" and then I got to lvl 100 and I was just stuck with a lvl 100 Feebas :(
I know it's probably been said a million times, but VGC uses Flame Orb and Guts rather than Toxic Orb. It does less damage over time and Guts cancels out the attack drop
Doesn't toxic orb do less total damage on the first two turns? Why wouldn't they use it? Edit: I just remembered vgc doesn't switch that often but is a guts pokemon up 4 turns?
When you use guts in competitive you use flame orb instead of toxic orb since guts ignores burn halving attack stat, and burns dealing less damage then toxic to yourself. The only exception I can think of is flareon, but flareon doesnt really see too much competitive play anyway.
I tried to use Shedinja on Norman in vanilla Emerald: it's a bad idea. Nearly every single pokemon Norman has in vanilla has either Faint Attack or status-based damage.
It beats 3/4 mons with itself and literally any other mon that doesn't bait faint attack on Slaking. (PP stall teeter dance on Spinda, PP stall everything on Slaking, and be untouched by Linoone.
Competitive and standard battles really do require different moveset attempts too. Especially because Emerald doesn't have as many double battles, and VGC is all doubles. I'm sure Wolfy is decent at singles format too, but building teams for singles and building teams for doubles are two different animals. I'm also amused with Swords Dance on Crawdaunt since none of its stab moves are actually physical.
Aaah right this is gen 3, I almost forgot water is a fully special stat in that gen Honestly the split of physical and special moves was just as important as abilities and all that jazz imo
@@yens1609 Totally agreed. So many more things make sense with it. It still boggles my mind that they made ghost a physical type and dark a special type. Like. My dark dog is literally biting someone and my ghost head is shooting balls of energy. How is that special and physical respectively?
Man Wolfy was trying to play this so fast. I dunno if that’s just his normal cadence or whatever but this man seemed like he was trying to speedrun the nuzlocke
@A Cool YoTooBist that does make a lot of sense but I was more talking about how mans was just super quick to double down and pick attacks and mons to send out rather than hold up for a sec & asses the situation
Definitely be interested to see him do a run with the rules you use. Healing is so OP but feel like he didn’t have the patience to grind up to the right levels.
To quote another Nuzlocker who had the exact same thing happen to their tailow in Brawly’s gym: “He chucked him against the fukkin’ wall!” Yeah, Vital Throw is a problem.
Oh man, I was really looking forward to this video as soon as Wolfey started his nuzlocke! I had such a blast watching Wolfeys videos and then watching PCs reaction to it, really a lot of fun! I hope Wolfey makes more nuzlockes in the future for PC to react to them. This really made my week and it's only monday. Really cool video!
I’d argue Focus Energy is only good early game with Pokes that tend to get multi-hit attacks. E.g.: Emerald Scope Lense plus FEnergy with Double Kick and Fury Attack on Nidoran, add Beat Up if you can get it via trade.
@@thisisiampie6946 Before gen 6, the highest crit chance you can reach is 50% that is if you use Focus Energy/Dire hit with a crit boosting item such as Scope Lense and use a high crit-chance move like Slash (if you also ignore the 100% crit chance moves like Frost Breath etc. )
Hey Pokémon Challenges. If you’re reading this message one day , I just want to say thank you for the great content you have on twitch and RUclips on nuzlockes. It inspired to do and beat my first nuzlocke in Pokémon Renegade Platinum. My final team was Charizard, Empoleon, Meganium, Garchomp, Giratina and Manaphy.
Good to hear ur enjoying Nuzlockes but tbh PC will prob think ur stupid bc u posted a comment on his videos Idk why he thinks we r stupid for posting comments but hey cool team but u should prob ban legends and garchomp to make the run more challenging if u want
Oh yeah and fun fact, the only reason I won’t is because garchomp was locked into outrage and just switched into meganium which is grass/fairy in Renegade Platinum. So I just used moonblast.
@@nicklewry3854 nahhh, def depends on the format like if it’s gen 8 Ou or randomized or random monotype. Plus Wolfey knows only like the top tier vgc mons+niche fun mons, and I’d put my money on PC knowing more mons. They should have like coaches if it’s OU maybe like pokeaim, blunder, finch or bkc would be funny
@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 I think Wolfey still dominates even if they are on a format he is unfamiliar with. Even with new Pokemon to work with his general knowledge on how to structure/optimize a team for PvP would be lightyears ahead of PC. ESPECIALLY if it’s in a doubles format. It would take PC a lot longer to master Wolfey-tier VGC gameplay (if he even could, very few people are on that level) than it would take for Wolfey to figure out how to optimize low tiers. This isn’t a diss to PC at all, it’s just that PvP is where Wolfey is literally a god and it’s an area that PC doesn’t experiment with as much. It only makes sense that if you’re playing by Wolfeys rules that he’d do a lot better. That’s why I think it needs some Nuzlocke component to it, so that PC can compensate for his lack of PvP knowledge with his abundance of Nuzlocke knowledge and balance things out
Nice to see another perspective on his nuzlocke. The biggest problem is probably his lack of patience, which anyone can see if your watching his emerald kaizo run right now
I think, to be fair, he's also too extremely adjusted to having time limits on choosing moves and on the battles themselves. Taking time isn't usually a luxury he gets.
16:27 correct strat is to double target and KO the Pelipper so one trainer loses all their Pokemon. Then switch out the Pokemon that got hit by Endeavor. Endeavor can never KO, so it’s a very safe situation
As soon as I saw Breloom against Slakoth I was like “oh you poor thing”. I only remembered myself because I just lost a Nuzlocke to that trainer a few days ago :(.
Stuff like this really show that nuzlockes and competitive pokemon have different gamesense. Though Wolfey was fantastic at thinking on his feet when the battle was started, as per importance in competitive, he made a lot of mistakes that pro nuzlockers would tilt their heads at because they know more about the mechanics of the games and trainers themselves, instead of just the pokemon and how to get through certain battles.
Dude I’m doing a Pokémon Emerald nuzlocke rn, and my Breloom carried hard in Norman’s gym. She was leveled up, and sitting in my back pocket throughout all the gym trainers though, because I wasn’t risking her getting knocked out. She was the highest defense stat Pokémon I had and was the only chance I stood. I swear the only reason I won that gym was because my linoone picked up a king’s rock right before the fight and flinched his slaking. I relied heavily on bulk up and mach punch and I was so excited I won I almost cried. I’m so upset he lost his breloom.
When I'm nuzlocking I always have more trouble with the random trainers than the gym leaders. There's a Battle Girl in Glittering Cave in X who's Hawlucha has better coverage than Korrina's.
I watch your channel every now and then, I'm currently doing my own nuzlocke on emerald because of you actually. But that's not why I'm commenting, you consistently tell yourself that you suck at intros and outros, so much so that you've probably convinced yourself. Most challenges we need to conquer are in our own head, you seem like a good dude and I believe in you! 😄
Watching this makes me not even want the gen 4 remakes. I miss the old battle animations and sprites. They had a certain charm to them. Gonna just replay Platinum instead. Hell, just gonna nuzlocke it for the first time.
Speaking of Fury Attack. A pet peeve of mine in games is when the computer relies on luck-based moves that either one-shot or do nothing. The computer has nothing in the game, so a risky play makes sense for them, but it means that you can do everything right and fail miserably because the computer will go for a 1 in10,000 play 20,000 times in a row
He went with the feebas for the elite 4 because he determined that of what was available, he'd rather take feebas in to be funny and have a full water team. And he didn't have the resources to evolve it, as far as he could tell. It was impish nature, meaning it dislikes dry pokeblocks, making it harder to gain beauty.
6:09 Forgetting one situation where crits are very useful, though I do admit it is somewhat rare, is for punching through the user's attack drops (doesn't include Burn for Gen 3 and onwards: something I only found out recently) and the target's defense boosts (includes Screen moves).
In Defense of situational Focus Energy use - Throw it on a pokemon like, say, Beedrill, with Fury Attack, early on, and it can be real lethal for entire teams.
I didn't even know about the daily channel! Definitely gonna check that out since I don't do twitch. He's lucky that surf only hits opposing mons 22:40 If he kills the Claydol a full health Lunatone comes in which could be rough 25:32 The hell I didn't expect Lunatone, but I guess they are treated as one trainer :O A really solid run. I'm a bit disappointed that he used items, but at least he didn't use X items nor heal spam.
If you can save the encounter for castform before gym 6 town it’s an easy sweep of Winona. Hail weather ball one taps her whole team, especially where altaria will also go for ddance first turn
Interesting how wolfey’s hardest battle was the double battle even though he plays professionally in double battles
And against two under 10 year old kids
@@golden7296 Don't underestimate 10 year old kids, they're the ones who keep saving the world in the Pokemon universe.
@@kodanico9388 The internet: NoOoOoOoO!!1! Facebook can't sell my data, that's an invasion of my privacy!
Also the internet: I'm going to do what's called a pro hacker move
I've seen this exact comment on another video. Even if you disregard the obvious immorality of betraying your partner's trust and privacy, this seems sketchy at best.
@@BleydXVI Agreed
@@BleydXVI It's a massive scam. I looked into it due to privacy concerns, and you not only have to pay the $15 to access it, you have to agree to automatic PayPal payments lmao
it's farming money off creepers
"Endeavor is really fucking dangerous."
Wolfey won worlds 2016 with a wild card endeavor raichu, so this is just karma. Lol
That's just funny
That's just funny
That’s just funny
That's just funny
That's just funny
the fact that he encountered a feebas, caught it, DIDN'T evolve it, and sacked it at the elite 4 is absolutely grotesque.
Milotic is such a great mon, it's in my top 3 water types and the other 2 are legendary...
You cannot efficiently evolve it/not at all until post-game when the best beauty enhancing berry becomes available. If you mess up by feeding it poorly mixed pokeblocks from the best pre-champion beauty enhancing berries, you don't get another chance to evolve it. Blending berries with the NPCs will almost always give less than perfect blocks.
@MERT KÜÇÜKTÜFEKÇİ i don't care much for palkia; it is admittedly OP due to its typing. I'm a big fan of design and so you are correct. Who is number 1 (in my heart) of those two... crystal was my first pokemon game.
@@jamesbolt1003 exactly. Someone mentioned needing to wait postgame for better blocks but thats not true. There are some good berries u can use in lillycove (the pomeg group) that can allow max beauty without waiting for the super berries.
@@qorv4973I know those berries. You are able to blend them well enough with those stupid helpers who miss the button press so much? I was never able to max the beauty thanks to them
When the two smartest kids in class get different answers:
Damn
Lol
true
"Two smartest kids" doesn't mean they're as smart as each other, just smarter than the rest of the class
@@alexread6767 you’re the kid in front row that reminds the teacher to give the homework
Swords dance taunt crabhammer protect is such a vgc set haha
What's vgc?
@@ngotemna8875 video game championships! It's the official competitive format and the one wolfey plays.
@@NatTheNewt Thanks! 👍
@Honglin Xue Oh that's cool. Will definitely look into this.
even funnier that crabhammer is special in gen 3
Two pros of sweaty Pokemon games, collide. It's incredible
Self proclaimed pro
Nuzlocking is not a sport it’s not competitive it’s a self implied challenge that’s it. the reason wolf is a pro is because he’s a multiple time champion and has redefined metas and broken some metas every since gen 5 the only people who think this guy is a pro is himself and the ten year olds who think he is edgy
@@curtisporter1949 while he does sound like a prick with that intro, you can't exactly mock him unless you could prove nuzlocking being easy. Otherwise, you'll only be seen as a bitter hater.
But nuzlocking is easy brother been playing these games ever since ive been six and in twenty two can do them in my sleep and he calls himself a pro just to get views anyone can beat a nuzlocking after 50 attempts
Wolf glick only got one chance to be champion that’s why he’s a professional this kid can’t even beat a nuzlocke on his first attempt he always fails to extend his views because he’s not good at anything else
"Is that shrimp with asparagus???"
Typical PC Pokemon wisdom.
"Asparagus is not optimal in this situation."
@@TheMarkoSeke based veggies
@@TheMarkoSeke you gotta play around the asparagus
Pretty sure he's dead to asparagus in that range
@@hallowed4570 only to crit
For those that are curious and didn't also see WolfeyVGC's wideo's (you should go watch them if you haven't) since it wasn't included in this video, the item approach that WolfeyVGC decided upon was to only use them if it was absolutely necessary in order to not get completely wrecked, which I can definitely respect.
Yep which actually makes sense
IMO restricting something to your personal discretion is the same as not restricting it at all so nah
@@OsomeOli Then what is the point of nuzlocke runs? Nuzlockes are literally built on personal restrictions.
@@wjdelu6758 Nuzlockes are mostly hard rules with no exceptions. That 5 hit + 1 crit fury swipes death was completely unlucky, but rules are rules and the pokemon stays dead. If you decide that you can heal when you deem it necessary, then you can heal at any point by saying that it's necessary. I disagree that it's the same as no restrictions though since Wolfey has an audience to consider. More tension=more excitement, and fewer angry comments about how he could have done this or that to avoid using items.
@@BleydXVI I mean, a nuzlocke is a nuzlocke, doesn't really matter how hard the rules are or if they have exceptions. It is supposed to be challenging, but it's also meant for fun.
I don’t watch the streams, but I love all the content this guy has on the channel, even though he hates it.
It’s inspired me to literally go back to pokemon and start re-memorising all the moves, mechanics, abilities, pokemon and tough battle encounters, so I can try my own hardcore nuzlocke.
Good luck hombre
I just realized how much harder and how much fun level caps, set mode, and no items make the game, because you then have a clutch moment when you win with a mon on less than 10HP in a fight -(then lose them to the next trainer bc you forgot to heal).-
@@joshen8915 yeah even just level caps and no in battle items changes everything! And it really makes you notice your bad decisions!
I am regularly on the edge of playing a Nuzlocke due to this channel. But then I remember what playing Pokemon is like and drop the idea. Only thing that might make me do it is on an emulator on permanent speedup and it be either a Soulocke with a friend or we battle with our Elite 4 teams at the end.
But its Pokemon so its not worth the time investment. I can just play any number of SMT games and I get a challenging monster catcher JRPG.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 smt is based
Wolfey's nuzlockes are pretty interesting - once he's in a battle, he works with what he has extremely well. Shedinja pivoting in Tate & Liza fight especially shows how good he can be at coming up with a successful strategy. However, his theorycrafting before the battle is a bit lackluster, partially due to missing game knowledge. Taunt & not outspeeding Banette, anticipating turn 1 explosion from Glalie, and planning to explode with Graveler didn't make much sense given that you just die to Psychic. Wolfey's in-battle plays + Game Knowledge + Patience to grind his pokemon properly likely isn't too far from PC's skill level.
Well, he is a pokemon world champion for a reason lol.
@@cy4069 I was looking for a comment like this
PC trumps him in game knowledge, but Wolfey is easily the more skilled Pokemon player
Yeah cus “pro” nuzlockers like PC spend more time learning game data and cheesing AI, whereas competitive players are actually good at the game
@@aryman6589 they are both very good at Pokémon, but pc has more knowledge and skill against ai players and quirks and wolfey is better at reading human opponents and finding outs in dire situations which an ai would probably handle differently. Also remember that a competitive environment is also often a mind game at the same time as the regular game happens, but this doesn't apply to nuzlockes
"i would hope that he pushes himself futher" and now Wolfe is one of the Emerald Kaizo legends! we call that, progress
That Tate & Liza fight was pretty insane honestly. Truly a back against the wall scenario.
Wolfe glick back against the wall
Well he kinda put himself against the wall by making it harder than it needed to be 😅
@@Jellybeansatdusk definitely, he should’ve tried to burnt that Claydol with Dusclops while he had the chance.
That would’ve made more of an impact in the long run, especially since the damage from from Earthquake would’ve been cut in half.
"Juan is so goddam hot" -Jan aka HitMonBottom
“I like being on top.” -Juan
I'm writing this on Wattpad:D
Based
Man, Hitmontop is my favorite pokemon. I shouldn't have laughed that hard
Obligatory "they're all bottoms!"
Oh how I've been waiting for this as soon as Wolfe posted the first episode
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This video includes the only two people I know of that say Deckydooey
Wolfey: Wins regional with Mega Banette
Also Wolfey: Does not know how fast Banette is
simple answer: gen 3 to gen 6-8 aren't the same.
To be fair, how often was he using base Banette?
@@elijahpadilla5083 Also in vgc you use EVs in a normal play through you don’t have that
Mega Banette has Prankster anyway, which encourages you to half-shut your brain to Speed stats because priority go brr. Not surprised that this gap carried over to base Banette.
"sydney was just ahead of his time"
honestly, i would bet that they planned the phys-spec split for gen 3, even planning several mons around it, but couldn't implement it due to either cart space or time restraints
Yeah it had to be something like that cause I can't imagine after making mons like sneasel that GF didn't know they had to change how move damage was decided.
Then there's Sceptile w/higher Sp Atk than Phys Atk despite knowing more physical moves, including it's signature move XP
@@AquamarineVGC In Gen 3 Sceptile works wonders as a Special Attacker, Leaf Blade is Grass type so Special in this gen and a crazy good move overall, it gets Dragon Claw (Dragon is Special) and I think it also gets Thunder Punch (Electric also Special), Pursuit is there too.
I always feel that emerald nuzlockes shoukd end with facing steven in meteor falls, the same way HGSS ends with Red on MT silver.
Steven isn't harder. He just has way higher numbers. The real test is taking your bois through Battle Frontier.
@@treasuremage7546 Maybe, but with Kaizo's difficulty, team changes and (possibly) more intelligent AI? I just feel like Steven is harder than Wallace, but maybe that's just me.
@@Miro_X Oh sure, with Kaizo teams or better AI absolutely. Just for any regular or randomized run having to prepare for 26 pokemon is considerably harder than having to only prepare for 6.
The problem with that is that nothing in Emerald naturally prepares you for Steven's level jump. Nothing scales in post-game so the highest farmable trainers are the Elite Four between 50 to 60. Steven has high 70s... and it's just kind of a fight? There's no build up, you just go to the cave and fight him. At least Red is this final ascent up a big mountain you've never been to before. Him being a Steel/Rock specialist also means the battle is very polarizing; unlike the Elite Four where you have to contend with five distinct trainers in a row, you can hyper-focus your team into countering him and it's really easy if you're actually willing to grind Pokemon that high.
Red's fight also sucks, for the record. His garbage team is carried by Gen 2's abysmal level scaling. Pikachu is terrible, Charizard and Blastoise stopped being particularly noteworthy long before Gen IV, Snorlax and Lapras are good but need status moves and/or a competent player/AI piloting them _who are actually willing to switch out_ and Venusaur is too easily countered as a Grass/Poison type with no coverage. Like if your team is even in the 70s this fight is easy.
@@SuperBeanSquad Adding on to that, at least with Red, there are multiple big post game fights after the champion besides Red that lead up to him, in the form of the Kanto gym leaders, so it feels like the “story” expects you to continue past the champion, as opposed to Steven just being a fight you can do.
4:17
"There's some better Water/Flying types"
Jan could never leave out mentioning Gyarados in a Nuzlocke
To be fair in most challenged not even just nuzlockes gyarados is just a strong pokemon. Intimidate good damage water flying both pretty useful. Basically impossible to not get due to magikarps common Ness
Interesting the respect Jan has for Wolfey and viceversa
I mean, they're both experts of their respective areas of Pokemon. It's not that surprising that there would be a mutual respect between the two of them. Plus Jan is pretty based and, although I haven't watched much of Wolfey, I'm guessing he is too.
Admit it -- You knew this was coming
I mean... he did watch it live on twitch
I mean....discord notif kek
I did and i was excited
Oh you watch pc to? Lol
@@Quinonez_52 Ofc :D
Focus energy is also good if you use multi-hitting moves that can crit more than once in a single use. Super niche, but pretty fun to use early game
People talk about how RUclips is cringe and Twitch is based but..
Every time we get a video, its full of people from Twitch saying "HI RUclips", thirsty and desperate to communicate with us.. but they never get a "HI TWITCH" back, we're too good for them.
The debate is settled.
Unbelievably based
Ummm.... I'm 80% certain that that ''hi RUclips" is in a condescending way
@@ramteja1550 I think it’s more of a hi I was here for this event that was recorded and will be uploaded and saved on the internet forever kind of thing. But maybe it is more of a “ha I saw this first” kind of way
Because....we can see the twitch people say hi.
They can't see youtube people say hi back since its later.
You don't say hi back because you are worth more than them, its because it makes no sense to.
@@ramteja1550 think of it this way. The ONLY twitch streams where people say "hi youtube" are speedruns they know will be uploaded. Which, basically, are PB's and WR's. Nothing condescending about predicting/knowing a speedrun will be a wr is there?
That electrike luck was awful, fury attack critting and hitting 5 times? Brutal
What about the feebas and other encounter luck
And that was in the base game. Imagine if it was in Mystery Dungeon.
@@ThisIsntARUclipsr fury attack in mystery dungeon gives me PTSD
When i first read this i thought it crit all 5 times.
@@kieran7675 skill link Cinccino the true monster in mystery dungeon
"You can't become the champion of the region without learning how to spam full restores."
Fool me once - I'm mad. Fool me twice - How could you? Fool me three times - You're officially that guy, okay? You know him, you know the one. You go to the bar and he's like, 'This suit is, uh, officially it's a Giorgio Armani, ech my dad knows him!' FUCK YOU! I AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIN'T HAVIN' THAT SHIT!
Seeing Swampert die caused me physical pain
my favorite pokemon reduced to cinder :(
I remember getting Feebas as a kid and not knowing how to evolve so I got it to lvl 100 thinking "wow a pokemon that must evolve at lvl 100 that's so cool" and then I got to lvl 100 and I was just stuck with a lvl 100 Feebas :(
im sorry.. but now you know the truth!🙂
I personally didn’t even have him in my Pokédex growing up until I found out in platinum how to evolve her
I know it's probably been said a million times, but VGC uses Flame Orb and Guts rather than Toxic Orb. It does less damage over time and Guts cancels out the attack drop
But...toxic orb gives more....Damnmage
@@gerihat-trick7634 They give the same damage boost.
Doesn't toxic orb do less total damage on the first two turns? Why wouldn't they use it?
Edit: I just remembered vgc doesn't switch that often but is a guts pokemon up 4 turns?
@@mutedknght toxic orb does 6+12= 18 while flame orb does 6+6=12
Laughs at guts flareon
When you use guts in competitive you use flame orb instead of toxic orb since guts ignores burn halving attack stat, and burns dealing less damage then toxic to yourself. The only exception I can think of is flareon, but flareon doesnt really see too much competitive play anyway.
Rest exists......
@@evilanimegenious ??? Rest is bad.
@@PersonaPrime I got destroyed by a rest talking guts flare on in nu once......
@@evilanimegenious How is rest gonna benefit a guts mon?
@@calub_wendex1233 sleep procs guts iirc and gives recovry
I can’t believe the full odds shiny spheal didn’t make the cut
Cringe. Based. Typical Algorithm comment.
Crased comment
Love it 😂🤣😂
Crased.
Hi RUclips!
Spaced
I tried to use Shedinja on Norman in vanilla Emerald: it's a bad idea. Nearly every single pokemon Norman has in vanilla has either Faint Attack or status-based damage.
I tried using Shedinja in vanilla ORAS and gave up way too fast😅 another time it is
It's mainly useful against his Linoone, as that monster can easily sweep you
It beats 3/4 mons with itself and literally any other mon that doesn't bait faint attack on Slaking. (PP stall teeter dance on Spinda, PP stall everything on Slaking, and be untouched by Linoone.
Competitive and standard battles really do require different moveset attempts too. Especially because Emerald doesn't have as many double battles, and VGC is all doubles. I'm sure Wolfy is decent at singles format too, but building teams for singles and building teams for doubles are two different animals. I'm also amused with Swords Dance on Crawdaunt since none of its stab moves are actually physical.
Wolfey is a great singles player
Aaah right this is gen 3, I almost forgot water is a fully special stat in that gen
Honestly the split of physical and special moves was just as important as abilities and all that jazz imo
@@yens1609 Totally agreed. So many more things make sense with it. It still boggles my mind that they made ghost a physical type and dark a special type. Like. My dark dog is literally biting someone and my ghost head is shooting balls of energy. How is that special and physical respectively?
@@MagusAgrippa8 it made so many Pokémon reach their full potential as well which I appreciate too
Cant believe pc is milking wolfeyvgc , and not the Pokémon direct smh my head,🤦🤷
He did react to it. Just isn't on the RUclips channel. He thought the gen 4 remakes were cringe and Pokemon legends Arceus looked cool.
@@devinryks8342 So remake cringe new game based
@@devinryks8342 character design in gen 4 remake is very questionable though
@@juxoq Imo it is at least interesting, I kinda dig the overworld but the lighting in the battle scenes look a bit off to me
Shaking my head my head, haha.
*only at 7th gym halfway through the video*
Something’s wrong, I can feel it
I’ve recently developed a tic that keeps me checking to see if I’m subscribed to the RUclipsrs that I am currently watching
Thanks jan. Thanks
yep, yan not jan but... *yan*
YAN
Goddamn it kept correcting to man
@@tomhiggins4651 dw dude, its just a joke
@@akhilmenon3523 I know I was just annoyed cos it autocorrected to ‘man’ 5 times in a row when I tried to change it lol
"IEATBIRD has been eaten by the bird." F for Manectric boys.
Hub
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Man Wolfy was trying to play this so fast. I dunno if that’s just his normal cadence or whatever but this man seemed like he was trying to speedrun the nuzlocke
@A Cool YoTooBist that does make a lot of sense but I was more talking about how mans was just super quick to double down and pick attacks and mons to send out rather than hold up for a sec & asses the situation
probably a developed vgc mindset since he mainly plays in tournaments. you need to think fast because theres a timer
Definitely be interested to see him do a run with the rules you use. Healing is so OP but feel like he didn’t have the patience to grind up to the right levels.
This stream was so fun, glad I could catch it!
I loved seeing my twitch one day and seeing PC learning vgc and wolfey doing a nuzlocke. It was so cool
To quote another Nuzlocker who had the exact same thing happen to their tailow in Brawly’s gym: “He chucked him against the fukkin’ wall!”
Yeah, Vital Throw is a problem.
That makes me wanna see a full review of one of TFS's nuzlocke. Even though they're about 20 hours of footage.
Dang, RTGame is no longer the best player PC has ever reviewed
sad
Oh man, I was really looking forward to this video as soon as Wolfey started his nuzlocke! I had such a blast watching Wolfeys videos and then watching PCs reaction to it, really a lot of fun! I hope Wolfey makes more nuzlockes in the future for PC to react to them. This really made my week and it's only monday.
Really cool video!
I’d argue Focus Energy is only good early game with Pokes that tend to get multi-hit attacks. E.g.: Emerald Scope Lense plus FEnergy with Double Kick and Fury Attack on Nidoran, add Beat Up if you can get it via trade.
for a normal playtrough it is, but in a nuzzlocke beat up isnt avaible cuz trading :c
It's also decent with high crit ratio moves because then it's a 100% crit chance. Or practically 100%
I like your funny words magic man
@@thisisiampie6946 Before gen 6, the highest crit chance you can reach is 50% that is if you use Focus Energy/Dire hit with a crit boosting item such as Scope Lense and use a high crit-chance move like Slash (if you also ignore the 100% crit chance moves like Frost Breath etc. )
@@thisisiampie6946 According to Bulbapedia the crit rates are 6.12%/12%/25%/33%/25% and 33% is pretty far from 100%
This run has shown me why you always need to grind your pokemon and know the levels of important fights lol
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Just for nuzlocke
Kinda sad that the best part of the stream which was the song at the beginning that is still stuck in my head isn’t in the video. CRINGE
“Take me to your Xbox to play fortnite today”
I swear, chug jug with you is too good.
based cringe 😂😂👌👌
Wolfey's hardest battle in this run was his battle with adderall
Hey Pokémon Challenges. If you’re reading this message one day , I just want to say thank you for the great content you have on twitch and RUclips on nuzlockes. It inspired to do and beat my first nuzlocke in Pokémon Renegade Platinum. My final team was Charizard, Empoleon, Meganium, Garchomp, Giratina and Manaphy.
Good to hear ur enjoying Nuzlockes but tbh PC will prob think ur stupid bc u posted a comment on his videos Idk why he thinks we r stupid for posting comments but hey cool team but u should prob ban legends and garchomp to make the run more challenging if u want
@@billygregory1547 yeah sure I was basically using any Pokémon I had in my disposal in the pc
Oh yeah and fun fact, the only reason I won’t is because garchomp was locked into outrage and just switched into meganium which is grass/fairy in Renegade Platinum. So I just used moonblast.
I meant won
(Nobody cares buddy)
PC and Wolfey should face each other in a realm they’re both not familar w/... smogon singles
Wolfey would wipe PC. A better way to do it would be to have them fight each others teams at the end of a nuzlocke run
@@nicklewry3854 nahhh, def depends on the format like if it’s gen 8 Ou or randomized or random monotype. Plus Wolfey knows only like the top tier vgc mons+niche fun mons, and I’d put my money on PC knowing more mons. They should have like coaches if it’s OU maybe like pokeaim, blunder, finch or bkc would be funny
@@nicklewry3854 also that’d be like unfair especially if Pc had to do a case study for wolfwy
@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 I think Wolfey still dominates even if they are on a format he is unfamiliar with. Even with new Pokemon to work with his general knowledge on how to structure/optimize a team for PvP would be lightyears ahead of PC. ESPECIALLY if it’s in a doubles format.
It would take PC a lot longer to master Wolfey-tier VGC gameplay (if he even could, very few people are on that level) than it would take for Wolfey to figure out how to optimize low tiers. This isn’t a diss to PC at all, it’s just that PvP is where Wolfey is literally a god and it’s an area that PC doesn’t experiment with as much. It only makes sense that if you’re playing by Wolfeys rules that he’d do a lot better.
That’s why I think it needs some Nuzlocke component to it, so that PC can compensate for his lack of PvP knowledge with his abundance of Nuzlocke knowledge and balance things out
@@nicklewry3854 idk bro, I ain feelin like putting paragraphs into this. I just wanna see it happen
Coming back and watching Wolfey do a Nuzlocke prior to him beating Emerald Kaizo is crazy, he had SO much more knowledge in his Kaizo run
Can’t believe the fachade bit didn’t make the cut
What's the fachade bit?
@@dodominoe4461 if you watched the twitch stream you’d know what I’m talking about
@@egg_dealer well obviously. I asked you in order to learn about what it is. So could you please explain it to someone who didn't watch the stream?
@@dodominoe4461 basically Wolfey pronounces facade with the c replaced by a ch and the e at the end not silent, then pc has an amazing reaction to it
@@egg_dealer Oh right. I saw that in a newer video now
I like how this time, when he's watching a top player, he adds the "most likely"
Nice to see another perspective on his nuzlocke. The biggest problem is probably his lack of patience, which anyone can see if your watching his emerald kaizo run right now
I think, to be fair, he's also too extremely adjusted to having time limits on choosing moves and on the battles themselves. Taking time isn't usually a luxury he gets.
16:27 correct strat is to double target and KO the Pelipper so one trainer loses all their Pokemon. Then switch out the Pokemon that got hit by Endeavor. Endeavor can never KO, so it’s a very safe situation
As soon as I saw Breloom against Slakoth I was like “oh you poor thing”. I only remembered myself because I just lost a Nuzlocke to that trainer a few days ago :(.
Now we can see a collab between them, the two greats on opposite styles.
Stuff like this really show that nuzlockes and competitive pokemon have different gamesense. Though Wolfey was fantastic at thinking on his feet when the battle was started, as per importance in competitive, he made a lot of mistakes that pro nuzlockers would tilt their heads at because they know more about the mechanics of the games and trainers themselves, instead of just the pokemon and how to get through certain battles.
It would be fun to see you two sit down and talk about your overall experiences with Pokemon
Dude I’m doing a Pokémon Emerald nuzlocke rn, and my Breloom carried hard in Norman’s gym. She was leveled up, and sitting in my back pocket throughout all the gym trainers though, because I wasn’t risking her getting knocked out. She was the highest defense stat Pokémon I had and was the only chance I stood. I swear the only reason I won that gym was because my linoone picked up a king’s rock right before the fight and flinched his slaking. I relied heavily on bulk up and mach punch and I was so excited I won I almost cried. I’m so upset he lost his breloom.
I had a Milotic in a recent Platinum run, also Snorlax. My Rng was cracked out it’s damn mind
Wolfey: *Is having a stroke*
Poke challenges: I don't think asparagus goes with shrimp
I’ve been waiting for this one
Focus energy is decent for when your enemy is spamming dig, dive, fly, protect, or detect
Or u know a critical will kill but a normal hit won't and if u don't kill they will heal
When I'm nuzlocking I always have more trouble with the random trainers than the gym leaders. There's a Battle Girl in Glittering Cave in X who's Hawlucha has better coverage than Korrina's.
Watched this on stream but I must feed the algorithm
when I saw tate and liza in the thumbnail, I got excited Jan got really far in Emerald kaizo.
This is fun too!
i saw myself in chat!! this was my first time in a pchaltv twitch stream, though i couldn’t stick around for long. it was fun!
Wolfey knows what he’s talking about. Love that because I was expecting his attempts at nuzlockes to just be disastrous and impossible to watch
I watch your channel every now and then, I'm currently doing my own nuzlocke on emerald because of you actually. But that's not why I'm commenting, you consistently tell yourself that you suck at intros and outros, so much so that you've probably convinced yourself. Most challenges we need to conquer are in our own head, you seem like a good dude and I believe in you! 😄
Wolfey: I’m probably the best Pokémon player of all time
PC: I’m probably the best nuzlocke player in the world
hmmmmmmm
absolutely LOVE the way jan laughs
I like how his youtube intros/outros are just him saying he sucks at intros/outros
Desc: Platinum
RUclips: FRLG
Video: Emerald
Watching this makes me not even want the gen 4 remakes. I miss the old battle animations and sprites. They had a certain charm to them. Gonna just replay Platinum instead. Hell, just gonna nuzlocke it for the first time.
Sorry
Can't wait to see your slow descent into insanity as Wolfe stumbles through his Nuzlocke
imagine he would actually train shedninja
Speaking of Fury Attack. A pet peeve of mine in games is when the computer relies on luck-based moves that either one-shot or do nothing. The computer has nothing in the game, so a risky play makes sense for them, but it means that you can do everything right and fail miserably because the computer will go for a 1 in10,000 play 20,000 times in a row
He went with the feebas for the elite 4 because he determined that of what was available, he'd rather take feebas in to be funny and have a full water team.
And he didn't have the resources to evolve it, as far as he could tell. It was impish nature, meaning it dislikes dry pokeblocks, making it harder to gain beauty.
17:08 😂😂 that's a brilliant edit
6:09
Forgetting one situation where crits are very useful, though I do admit it is somewhat rare, is for punching through the user's attack drops (doesn't include Burn for Gen 3 and onwards: something I only found out recently) and the target's defense boosts (includes Screen moves).
Twitch chat got put into timeout good shit
Good
In Defense of situational Focus Energy use - Throw it on a pokemon like, say, Beedrill, with Fury Attack, early on, and it can be real lethal for entire teams.
Rewatching this video, and just seeing this die just like Smants in your villian ark, it's so great.
love these bro, ur channel reiginited my love for pokemon
I just remembered on the double battle how I killed that gym with a low level poochyena spamming bite on lunatone cause it was the only pokemon left.
Love seeing this, 2 great creators!
I didn't even know about the daily channel! Definitely gonna check that out since I don't do twitch.
He's lucky that surf only hits opposing mons
22:40 If he kills the Claydol a full health Lunatone comes in which could be rough
25:32 The hell I didn't expect Lunatone, but I guess they are treated as one trainer :O
A really solid run. I'm a bit disappointed that he used items, but at least he didn't use X items nor heal spam.
Solrock against altaria is the best counter for sure. Especially since altaria has much worse sp attack
"You think you're subscribed, you're not" I laughed but bruh was right
DIDNT know that Jan watched chuggaconroys emerald let’s play
Been waiting for this since wolfey started! Two of my favorite poke tubers! I feel spoiled
That evil laughter at 13:00.
i was waiting for this since wolfey uploaded the first part to this nuzlocke
Breloom exists
Norman Gym: We don't do that here.
If you can save the encounter for castform before gym 6 town it’s an easy sweep of Winona. Hail weather ball one taps her whole team, especially where altaria will also go for ddance first turn
Crawdaunt SD Crabhammer best set of gen 3, ever
30:51 lol Gay panic
i’m beginning to feel that jan is both a masochist and a sadist.
I saw right through him the first time I stumbled upon a hardcore nuzlocke of his XD
I respect the guy so much regardless and because of this :P
PC : I fear nothing
ME : pkmn dark rising hardcore PAINlock
Am pretty sure dark rising is regarded as a good game because people are happy when it ends.
@@chubz8198 not happy they are relived that the PAIN AND AGONY HAS ENDED!!