Hey Chris! Thank you so much for taking the time to create this test! I need to get mine installed with all the plugins and get it down to work! Fantastic video. Thanks for the shoutout too man! I also applaud you for what you said in the end. If you know what you’re doing, there’s no reason to cry about plugins that are not compatible yet. But developers do need to hurry hehehe! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
You guys are the best to make Cubase content, know cubase almost like the great Greg Ondo. Even when English is my second language but enjoy watching all that you guys share, Thank you!
I’ve had mine a year and it’s amazing. Moving slowly over to native AS. I knew I didn’t need a MAX so I got the m1Pro 32 gig ram and 4TB storage. I have 800 gigs left on storage and I’ve never wanted any more gpu power. The battery is better with less gpu horsepower.
This test is great; I actually shouted out loud while you were pushing it on the native Apple silicon side. I have the exact specs but with a 4TB drive going on nine months, and I absolutely love it. Using it with Logic is just fantastic, and most of the plugins U’ using run natively in Ventura, and my Apollo Twin X works fine. Thanks for the demo!
I was able to get 80 as well. When I got the regular M1 I was blown away by how much more efficient it was than my Mac Pro. The quiet thing was the main reason. I currently have the m1 Max 64GB Ram 32 Core GPU in my studio (and out). The 2019 MBP Intel i9 was constantly overheating I had to get rid of hat thing.
recently ordered my mac studio max, with 64gb of ram and 2tb of ssd. 10 CPU cores, 24 GPUs. you say it's okay? I wanted the Ultra but it's too much for my pocket
Hello Chris, interesting video, thanks for taking the time to do it! OK, I have another challenge for you, but take it at your own risk (I won’t take responsibility if your notebook explodes violently): -do create just four audio tracks with audio material . -do load one Waves Abbey Road reverb in each of them. -press play. -enjoy the fireworks. 😸
I want to start mixing out of the box to get that analog color and nice high roll off. What should I start with. Preamp, Eq, compressor. If I can get some guidance that will be great. Thanks. I understand that there are a whole lot of analog gear and they each have thier purpose and can be genre specific, vocal or percusion specific as well. So anything to start me up would be great. I am going to mainly work on hip hop and pop. Some live here and there (rarely). Thank you.
I'm considering an M2. I've also grown tired of Vienna Ensemble Pro. Do you feel an M2 Ultra can handle large Cubase templates without VEPro using high density libraries such as East West Hollywood Strings?
This video validates my general reluctance to upgrading. My current setup is already way more than I personally need in terms of performance, and it's a Gen 2 Ryzen 7. Having said that, I have major G.A.S., and that thing IS a beast of a machine, so...yeah, I want one. Of course I do. ;)
Great test! Yours and Dom's videos are helpful and not boring. I am a Nuendo user and I work as a sound designer for films. I plan to replace my PC, Ryzen 7- 3700x/32Gb Ram with a Macbook Pro 16'' M1 Max/32 GPU/64Gb Ram. I would like to know if the Macbook Pro has good performance in long working hours?
I have been able to run my Uad vst 2 plugins in Cubase(m1) using Blue Cat Audio’s Patch Work plugin. it is M1 compatible and it can host vst 2 plugins. Uad vst 2 plugins also work in Cubase (m1) in Softube’s console one. This is for all any of the plugins they have integrated in there controller. So basically, the plugins can work inside of a wrapper plugin. Hopefully UAD will create vst3 versions soon.
@@mixdownonline I hear you. I am not exactly warm and fuzzy about the ideal but who knows when us will make vst3 versions of uad powered plugs. I didn’t feel like waiting any longer.
Hi Chris, my Universal Audio UAD2 (thunderbolt 2) satellite seems to work fine with Cubase in native silicon. There’s a work-around on the UA webpage which was updated in November.
Hi Chris! Thanks for the video. Very interesting indeed! 🤩 We were really dissatisfied with the MacBook Pro 2018 and decided to go with less power (MacBook Air M1) but without any noise! 😉 Sure this M1 Max MacBook Pro looks really powerful, and if the fan turns on only after +80 tracks, well, it will be silent pretty much all the time! 😃 Thanks for going into such detail! Great job! 💪 A big hug! ❤ Filippo & Nadia
My PC sucks... I just did the test and I get drop outs already from the get go with just 1 instance at 32 samples. When I increase to 128 samples I get drop outs with 5 instances, so, the max on my PC is 4. What do you recommend to change on a PC to increase the audio performance? The microcontroller? the mainboard? increase the RAM? My PC is a i5-9400 CPU @ 2.90GHz (9th generation) intel with 16 GB RAM and my interface is a Focusrite 6i6 1st generation.
Hello Chris! Do you still use your M1 Mac MacBook Pro for your projects? I found a brand new M1 Max studio (32 core gpu) (great price) and I’m about to buy it. Thanks :)
Hi I just want to ask that native instruments kontakt,waves bundle,vallhalla bundle, lexicon bundle,slate digital...etc are compatible or not with cubase 13 pro with MacBook pro M3?
best video for Cubase users ever!!!! Im really waiting on the M2 Max, got f'ed buying latest intel i9 (never use it for production, only for travel)...so that should be the one!! Again big thanks, specially for comparing to that Ryzen video from Don (i have the 5950x). All i want is a machine, that is at least as fast as my 5950x :)
Fantastic video, thanks. I’m on the lookout to buy a laptop because I am travelling so much and spending a lot of time in hotels and I’m pleased this came up on my YT feed. One important question I need (anyone) to confirm: Can I transfer projects between my PC based home studio and a MacBook? Easily, I mean. Otherwise my laptop search might have to aim towards Windows based machines to avoid conversion hassles. TIA.
I tested a 2020 M1 Mac Mini for a while months ago when pondering a switch, I stuck with my windows 12900k desktop. As good as the M1 is, I wasn't getting the benefit needing Rosetta to run a lot of my instruments and plugins. Logic Pro was very impressive, but getting the same fast workflow in Logic Pro x was a bridge too far as life-long Cubase user!
i think for desktop you d better stay with windows and i9 12(13)900k or ryzen 9 59(79)50x ...but if you need mobile use..the power saving is so much important for the overall performance that makes the m1 chip unbeatable.
I agree, I made the move to M1 cause I wanted a Laptop to run as my main studio computer. If it wasn't for that, I would've probably built myself a new PC at some point like I did with my last computer.
This last year I moved from a Windows PC to a Mac Studio and couldn't be happier with it. The only downer is that Halion is not Apple Silicon native and you have to run it in Rosetta.
@@mixdownonline what is weird, Halion Sonic SE is Apple Silicon native. Really odd why that is but at least I can use my Halion instruments without having to boot up in native mode. I’m enjoying your Cubase course, nice refresher for things I’ve long forgotten.
Hey Chris, just saw your video and I'm looking for a new Mac. Have An iMac, old, but would love a new MacBook. Never had one, Bt was thinking about the Mac Studio but after seeing what you talked about here, I know I would need to have a little more cash. So, don't have as much RAM as you have and so I want to have 1 or 2 tbs, and would Final Cut work with 10 core? Thanks.
I recently ordered my mac studio max, with 64gb of ram and 2tb of ssd. 10 CPU cores, 24 GPUs. you say it's okay? I wanted the Ultra but it's too much for my pocket
Thanks so much for doing this comparison. I'm wondering now if I could get away with one of those new M2 MacBook airs since I only need about a quarter of that power.
Hey Chris, WOW 32 is a freaking small buffer size. I use a Apollo X8P with my Buffers at Max it would be interesting to see How many track we can run at the Buffer size :) I know that UAD plugins are not VST 3 so my Satellites will not work but my Apollo Should be fine if I commit the tracks from the start ?
One question, why can other DAW's use uad satellite and vst 2 plugins but not Cubase? Will Steinberg update Cubase or do I have to wait for UA to make their powered plugins be vst 3? I dont feel like buying a new Mac Studio if I cant use Cubase 12 pro in native mode with all my many plugins using an apollo 8 interface and octo satellite. Im not all that interested in Luna, but would be cool trying it at least if I buy a new Mac but not now when I realize it wont work nativley with Cubase and my many apollo and satellite powered UA plugins. Cubase is still my main DAW no matter what!
Hi Chris, I'm thinking of upgrading to a macbook pro with the m1pro chip from a windows laptop, because the fans are insanely loud on windows. I also have an AXR4 interface and have some questions. Is there any problem with drivers on apple silicon or something like that? Thanks for the reply
Hi Chris, I'm using my MacBook Pro M2 Max now for a few months with Nuendo 12.0.70, but unfortunately, Nuendo is pretty fast on its limit and I get a lot of dropouts, although the mac is only at 5 to 6 percent of CPU load (also RAM). I have the M2 Max with 96GB of RAM and 4TB of internal storage. My audio interface is an RME Fireface UFX+ which is directly connected by USB-C. I tried Rosetta and Silicon mode, doesn't really make any difference. So this happens although I'm already at 2048 buffer and Asio Guard set to high. Any advices whats wrong in my setup?
Another question: Any issues running Cubase 12 Pro on Windows 11? (Since nearly all new laptops are loaded with that now. I’ve noticed a comment on a forum somewhere about driver issues on Win11, something along the lines of Windows kicking out the Yamaha Steinberg driver when there’s an update. I hate chasing show stopping issues like that, so I’d prefer to aviod them altogether.) Sorry to drift the thread a bit. I’m obviously keen on the MacBook, so if my first question is cleared up, I won’t have to worry about Q2.
Hey Chris, I m running Cubase 10.5.30 pro on win 7 with an Intel i3 7th gen 3.7ghz 2cores cpu, so it has an integrated graphic in it.. for my projects I m ok with this, 3 monitors are connected one for workspace 2 for mix consoles..do you think i could get a better real time performance investing in a dedicated graphic card?
it s so stunning..Dom was @44.1 khz and you were @48khz and the tracks you duplicated were "rec armed" i'm shocked ... for multicore nanoreview rate sryzen 9 5950x= 99 and m1 max=56 => that means that we can't trust nanoreview , geekbench and general purpose bench for DAW usage. or maybe those bench are made in rosetta mode.. i have just made the test on my laptop ryzen 7 4800hs with babyface pro @48khz and 48samples (can't go under) ,i can only have 23 tracks before first cracks and dropout (i didn't expect the gap to be so huge!), and i know that i can run basically twice more tracks on my desktop ryzen 9 5950x.... i knew that apple m1 was good for DAW, but i'im really shocked with that result... thank you to open my eyes on this...
I think you should be comparing the M1 Max chip to the latest releases from Intel and AMD like the 7950x or i9-13900k. They will crush the Mac chip in a head to head! Love your videos though.
might be, but i regardless of CPU power think there is no windows laptop that quiet like MACBOOK with silicon chips which only by this feature its a Major plus for music making, unless some intel / AMD made it to stay cool and quiet on the new CPU's?
@@mozizo11 He was comparing a Windows desktop to the Mac laptop. Not an apples to apples comparison. Mac silicon is most definitely way cooler and quieter though. Depends on what matters most to the individual. It's just not accurate to portray the horsepower of current PC desktops to Mac laptops cause there is no contest in favor of the PC!
@@frank0563 well on laptops side heat and noise level is the issue, i never used a MAC but i wish Intel/AMD make the leap to powerful and cool efficient CPU for laptops specifically, on desktop there are good quiet solutions. i did the test from Dom with Legion 5 pro 11 gen i7 CPU and it can run with 42 channels and the fan is very noisy and the laptop almost take off like a drone ))
@@mozizo11 Right. I've never looked at a Windows laptop before myself. Always been on PC desktop. That would be a serious problem for sure! I'd probably look at a Mac if I needed a laptop. I have an old 2013 MB pro that's fairly useless now. The New Mac Silicon is unbeatable in the laptop world.
Hi Chris :-) Just wanted to let you know that it is possible to run UAD Plugins natively in Apple Sillicon now. You can check the procedure on their website :-). So excited because i run my studio through an Apollo and got my M1 today. Greets from Germany :-)!
Yes, using UAD Sparks that are VST3, but not all of the UAD plugins are in Sparks yet...85% of my UAD plugins are not unfortunately. The UAD Accelerator plugins are Sillicon supported, but not VST3, so they won't work in Cubase, unless Cubase starts in Rosetta.
Do you run in Rosetta or native most of the time? I use Logic and I am using Rosetta mode at the moment but am wondering if the machine would run better in Native! I have ram in Native mode and my plug-ins seem to work even if not qualified on m1, just curious! Thanks for the vids!
thank you Selim for this...now i have to sell my ryzen 5950 desktop and ryzen laptop to buy a macbook ...i always found the price was unjustified on apple device..until the m1 chip ..hope microsoft + other chip manufactor will react.
@@mixdownonline my desktop is ok , but my laptop although it can be used ,i need to bounce/freeze too often if i want to produce/mix/master a whole track and it s making a lot of noise so cannot be used to record in the same room, plus it need to be plugged to the wall , i feel a bit limited4=> just a quick precision i tested my ryzen 5950x and i can have 95 tracks before drop out, my laptop ryzen 4800hs 32 tracks, when i saw nanoview geekbench , it s difficult to see the correlation between the cpu power and the result in cubase (on windows x86 and macos arm64), so now i just wonder if windows limits cubase, i wish i could see a cubase bench on the latest cpu running windows and macos (hackintosh).
Why my M1 macbook Pro 2020 it cracks at 30 channels with some few plugins on each track? It worked flawless until 2 months ago when it started to heat up, i went to solved the problem (renewed the cooling paste on the cpu) and still works like shit!!! Someone has the same problem? Maybe the paste isn't that good? i even updated from Big Sur to Ventura and is still crap... i don't know what to do anymore..
@@dezw6485 Just check and double check .Here is an example of some wording used : We are pleased that at this time, all of our plugins can be used on M1/ARM-based Macs, and nearly all of them can be used in Native-based DAWs, without running Rosetta. However, most of these plugins are only compatible in conjunction with Apple's AUHostingCompatbilityService, meaning they will only work as AU versions when run in native-based DAWs, and are not truly able to run natively themselves. We are working on updating all our plugins so they are fully native compatible. For a complete list of the current status of each of our plugins, see below.
@@normjones6916 Thanks Norm I was asking for myself, and for others, I do feel like the plug-in developers. do need our support? I managed to have a smooth-ish transition from Intel to M1 I’m aware of the type of wording that is used, I think some software might not make the switch, in which case, at least Rosetta can work until another alternative comes by or someone revives the software
I ran this project and got to 102 tracks, any tracks after that it started crackling. Weird thing is i am using a 5900x 12 core which has 4 less cores than the 16 core Don was using. Same buffer setting and same exact settings he showed in his video. The only things that's different is I'm using Cubase 12 pro and Don was using Cubase 11 Pro. I'm using Windows 11 and he was using Windows 10. Only conclusions i have to this is Windows 11 is better than windows 10 for audio work or Cubase 12 is more efficient than Cubase 11
*UPDATE* UAD Satellite DSP now supports VST3, so now work with Cubase in Silicon Mode 🙂
Hey Chris! Thank you so much for taking the time to create this test! I need to get mine installed with all the plugins and get it down to work! Fantastic video. Thanks for the shoutout too man!
I also applaud you for what you said in the end. If you know what you’re doing, there’s no reason to cry about plugins that are not compatible yet. But developers do need to hurry hehehe!
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Thanks man, I appreciate it 😀
You guys are the best to make Cubase content, know cubase almost like the great Greg Ondo. Even when English is my second language but enjoy watching all that you guys share, Thank you!
+1 here! (I’ve read appreciative comments about both you guys on other music forums, so really + multitudes of ++ to Kennedy’s comment).
I’ve had mine a year and it’s amazing. Moving slowly over to native AS. I knew I didn’t need a MAX so I got the m1Pro 32 gig ram and 4TB storage. I have 800 gigs left on storage and I’ve never wanted any more gpu power. The battery is better with less gpu horsepower.
This test is great; I actually shouted out loud while you were pushing it on the native Apple silicon side. I have the exact specs but with a 4TB drive going on nine months, and I absolutely love it. Using it with Logic is just fantastic, and most of the plugins U’ using run natively in Ventura, and my Apollo Twin X works fine. Thanks for the demo!
I was able to get 80 as well. When I got the regular M1 I was blown away by how much more efficient it was than my Mac Pro. The quiet thing was the main reason. I currently have the m1 Max 64GB Ram 32 Core GPU in my studio (and out). The 2019 MBP Intel i9 was constantly overheating I had to get rid of hat thing.
recently ordered my mac studio max, with 64gb of ram and 2tb of ssd. 10 CPU cores, 24 GPUs. you say it's okay? I wanted the Ultra but it's too much for my pocket
Thank you for the test. I like that you used the same instrument and buffer size as Dom (it helps set benchmarks for Cubase users).
You're welcome! Yes, it's easier when you can compare with something :-)
Ok THIS explains so much of what I needed to know. Thank you! 😊❤
Happy to hear that!
Hello Chris, interesting video, thanks for taking the time to do it!
OK, I have another challenge for you, but take it at your own risk (I won’t take responsibility if your notebook explodes violently):
-do create just four audio tracks with audio material .
-do load one Waves Abbey Road reverb in each of them.
-press play.
-enjoy the fireworks.
😸
thank you for teaching us. I have a question: when using Cubase through rosette, the audio quality does not decrease?
Chris, do you have the test project somewhere online ?
Hey Chris, I really enjoy see this video. Thankyou so much taking your time to make this experiment.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I want to start mixing out of the box to get that analog color and nice high roll off. What should I start with. Preamp, Eq, compressor. If I can get some guidance that will be great. Thanks.
I understand that there are a whole lot of analog gear and they each have thier purpose and can be genre specific, vocal or percusion specific as well. So anything to start me up would be great. I am going to mainly work on hip hop and pop. Some live here and there (rarely). Thank you.
I'm considering an M2. I've also grown tired of Vienna Ensemble Pro. Do you feel an M2 Ultra can handle large Cubase templates without VEPro using high density libraries such as East West Hollywood Strings?
good job i watched this video, i had no idea that UAD wouldnt work on a mac with CB, that's unreal. will have to stick with PC for now then
My 7950X based will eAT that thing aLive.
Happy Holidays!!
Informative from the start
Thanks!
M1 is a game changer for sure. Imagine when M2, M3 comes out, how much more powerful these laptops going to be.
Possible ramifications of the M5 computer (with A"i") can be seen in "The Ultimate Computer" episode of the original Star Trek : - )
Yes, there's always gonna be faster chips as we go!
This video validates my general reluctance to upgrading. My current setup is already way more than I personally need in terms of performance, and it's a Gen 2 Ryzen 7. Having said that, I have major G.A.S., and that thing IS a beast of a machine, so...yeah, I want one. Of course I do. ;)
You are best man
Great test! Yours and Dom's videos are helpful and not boring. I am a Nuendo user and I work as a sound designer for films. I plan to replace my PC, Ryzen 7- 3700x/32Gb Ram with a Macbook Pro 16'' M1 Max/32 GPU/64Gb Ram. I would like to know if the Macbook Pro has good performance in long working hours?
I have been able to run my Uad vst 2 plugins in Cubase(m1) using Blue Cat Audio’s Patch Work plugin. it is M1 compatible and it can host vst 2 plugins. Uad vst 2 plugins also work in Cubase (m1) in Softube’s console one. This is for all any of the plugins they have integrated in there controller. So basically, the plugins can work inside of a wrapper plugin. Hopefully UAD will create vst3 versions soon.
this one or ddmf metaplugin
Using a wrapper is an good option, but I'm not a fan of them
@@mixdownonline I hear you. I am not exactly warm and fuzzy about the ideal but who knows when us will make vst3 versions of uad powered plugs. I didn’t feel like waiting any longer.
Thank you for the video Chris
You're welcome, Michel!
Hi Chris, my Universal Audio UAD2 (thunderbolt 2) satellite seems to work fine with Cubase in native silicon. There’s a work-around on the UA webpage which was updated in November.
Hlw Sir
is there now UAD dsp plugin support in cubase ?
am plan to buy uad accelerator
Hi Chris! Thanks for the video. Very interesting indeed! 🤩
We were really dissatisfied with the MacBook Pro 2018 and decided to go with less power (MacBook Air M1) but without any noise! 😉
Sure this M1 Max MacBook Pro looks really powerful, and if the fan turns on only after +80 tracks, well, it will be silent pretty much all the time! 😃
Thanks for going into such detail! Great job! 💪
A big hug! ❤
Filippo & Nadia
My PC sucks... I just did the test and I get drop outs already from the get go with just 1 instance at 32 samples. When I increase to 128 samples I get drop outs with 5 instances, so, the max on my PC is 4. What do you recommend to change on a PC to increase the audio performance? The microcontroller? the mainboard? increase the RAM? My PC is a i5-9400 CPU @ 2.90GHz (9th generation) intel with 16 GB RAM and my interface is a Focusrite 6i6 1st generation.
Hello Chris! Do you still use your M1 Mac MacBook Pro for your projects? I found a brand new M1 Max studio (32 core gpu) (great price) and I’m about to buy it. Thanks :)
Chris, What can you tell us about the halion VST instruments. Are yhey compatible and do they function with the M1 pro. Please advise if you can.
Thx, Chris - very helpful! Are you running Ventura or Monterrey as OS?
Hi I just want to ask that native instruments kontakt,waves bundle,vallhalla bundle, lexicon bundle,slate digital...etc are compatible or not with cubase 13 pro with MacBook pro M3?
best video for Cubase users ever!!!!
Im really waiting on the M2 Max, got f'ed buying latest intel i9 (never use it for production, only for travel)...so that should be the one!!
Again big thanks, specially for comparing to that Ryzen video from Don (i have the 5950x). All i want is a machine, that is at least as fast as my 5950x :)
Fantastic video, thanks. I’m on the lookout to buy a laptop because I am travelling so much and spending a lot of time in hotels and I’m pleased this came up on my YT feed. One important question I need (anyone) to confirm: Can I transfer projects between my PC based home studio and a MacBook? Easily, I mean. Otherwise my laptop search might have to aim towards Windows based machines to avoid conversion hassles. TIA.
I tested a 2020 M1 Mac Mini for a while months ago when pondering a switch, I stuck with my windows 12900k desktop. As good as the M1 is, I wasn't getting the benefit needing Rosetta to run a lot of my instruments and plugins. Logic Pro was very impressive, but getting the same fast workflow in Logic Pro x was a bridge too far as life-long Cubase user!
i think for desktop you d better stay with windows and i9 12(13)900k or ryzen 9 59(79)50x ...but if you need mobile use..the power saving is so much important for the overall performance that makes the m1 chip unbeatable.
I agree, I made the move to M1 cause I wanted a Laptop to run as my main studio computer. If it wasn't for that, I would've probably built myself a new PC at some point like I did with my last computer.
This last year I moved from a Windows PC to a Mac Studio and couldn't be happier with it. The only downer is that Halion is not Apple Silicon native and you have to run it in Rosetta.
I don't work with Halion much, so I didn't try it yet on my Mac, but thanks for letting me know!
@@mixdownonline what is weird, Halion Sonic SE is Apple Silicon native. Really odd why that is but at least I can use my Halion instruments without having to boot up in native mode.
I’m enjoying your Cubase course, nice refresher for things I’ve long forgotten.
Hey Chris, just saw your video and I'm looking for a new Mac. Have An iMac, old, but would love a new MacBook. Never had one, Bt was thinking about the Mac Studio but after seeing what you talked about here, I know I would need to have a little more cash. So, don't have as much RAM as you have and so I want to have 1 or 2 tbs, and would Final Cut work with 10 core? Thanks.
I recently ordered my mac studio max, with 64gb of ram and 2tb of ssd. 10 CPU cores, 24 GPUs. you say it's okay? I wanted the Ultra but it's too much for my pocket
which camera do you use to record this video?
Thanks so much for doing this comparison. I'm wondering now if I could get away with one of those new M2 MacBook airs since I only need about a quarter of that power.
Probably! Try to check out M2 videos out there to give you an idea!
Hey Chris, WOW 32 is a freaking small buffer size. I use a Apollo X8P with my Buffers at Max it would be interesting to see How many track we can run at the Buffer size :)
I know that UAD plugins are not VST 3 so my Satellites will not work but my Apollo Should be fine if I commit the tracks from the start ?
One question, why can other DAW's use uad satellite and vst 2 plugins but not Cubase? Will Steinberg update Cubase or do I have to wait for UA to make their powered plugins be vst 3? I dont feel like buying a new Mac Studio if I cant use Cubase 12 pro in native mode with all my many plugins using an apollo 8 interface and octo satellite. Im not all that interested in Luna, but would be cool trying it at least if I buy a new Mac but not now when I realize it wont work nativley with Cubase and my many apollo and satellite powered UA plugins. Cubase is still my main DAW no matter what!
Nice video Chris, maybe when my windows desktop gets slow I will consider buying a Mac with the M1 chip. But for now I'm good.
For sure! Always wait before upgrading until you need it
Hi Chris, I'm thinking of upgrading to a macbook pro with the m1pro chip from a windows laptop, because the fans are insanely loud on windows. I also have an AXR4 interface and have some questions. Is there any problem with drivers on apple silicon or something like that? Thanks for the reply
Hi Chris, I'm using my MacBook Pro M2 Max now for a few months with Nuendo 12.0.70, but unfortunately, Nuendo is pretty fast on its limit and I get a lot of dropouts, although the mac is only at 5 to 6 percent of CPU load (also RAM). I have the M2 Max with 96GB of RAM and 4TB of internal storage. My audio interface is an RME Fireface UFX+ which is directly connected by USB-C. I tried Rosetta and Silicon mode, doesn't really make any difference. So this happens although I'm already at 2048 buffer and Asio Guard set to high. Any advices whats wrong in my setup?
Great video
Thanks!
Another question: Any issues running Cubase 12 Pro on Windows 11? (Since nearly all new laptops are loaded with that now. I’ve noticed a comment on a forum somewhere about driver issues on Win11, something along the lines of Windows kicking out the Yamaha Steinberg driver when there’s an update. I hate chasing show stopping issues like that, so I’d prefer to aviod them altogether.) Sorry to drift the thread a bit. I’m obviously keen on the MacBook, so if my first question is cleared up, I won’t have to worry about Q2.
Hey Chris, I m running Cubase 10.5.30 pro on win 7 with an Intel i3 7th gen 3.7ghz 2cores cpu, so it has an integrated graphic in it.. for my projects I m ok with this, 3 monitors are connected one for workspace 2 for mix consoles..do you think i could get a better real time performance investing in a dedicated graphic card?
Merci beaucoup!
Merci à toi d'avoir visionné :-)
I am getting 120 with M3 Macbook pro 16" same test...
it s so stunning..Dom was @44.1 khz and you were @48khz and the tracks you duplicated were "rec armed" i'm shocked ... for multicore nanoreview rate sryzen 9 5950x= 99 and m1 max=56 => that means that we can't trust nanoreview , geekbench and general purpose bench for DAW usage. or maybe those bench are made in rosetta mode.. i have just made the test on my laptop ryzen 7 4800hs with babyface pro @48khz and 48samples (can't go under) ,i can only have 23 tracks before first cracks and dropout (i didn't expect the gap to be so huge!), and i know that i can run basically twice more tracks on my desktop ryzen 9 5950x.... i knew that apple m1 was good for DAW, but i'im really shocked with that result... thank you to open my eyes on this...
Hi Chris what is the different between Mac and Windows in Cubase
It all works the same when working in Cubase
Hey Chris, what studio monitors are you using?
I usually work with the Focal Solo6be, but one needs to be sent to the repair shop. For now I use these: ruclips.net/video/MHhdaH1HvCI/видео.html
I think you should be comparing the M1 Max chip to the latest releases from Intel and AMD like the 7950x or i9-13900k. They will crush the Mac chip in a head to head! Love your videos though.
might be, but i regardless of CPU power think there is no windows laptop that quiet like MACBOOK with silicon chips which only by this feature its a Major plus for music making, unless some intel / AMD made it to stay cool and quiet on the new CPU's?
@@mozizo11 Indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has forseen. But you are not a Jedi yet!
@@mozizo11 He was comparing a Windows desktop to the Mac laptop. Not an apples to apples comparison. Mac silicon is most definitely way cooler and quieter though. Depends on what matters most to the individual. It's just not accurate to portray the horsepower of current PC desktops to Mac laptops cause there is no contest in favor of the PC!
@@frank0563 well on laptops side heat and noise level is the issue, i never used a MAC but i wish Intel/AMD make the leap to powerful and cool efficient CPU for laptops specifically, on desktop there are good quiet solutions. i did the test from Dom with Legion 5 pro 11 gen i7 CPU and it can run with 42 channels and the fan is very noisy and the laptop almost take off like a drone ))
@@mozizo11 Right. I've never looked at a Windows laptop before myself. Always been on PC desktop. That would be a serious problem for sure! I'd probably look at a Mac if I needed a laptop. I have an old 2013 MB pro that's fairly useless now. The New Mac Silicon is unbeatable in the laptop world.
Cubase should seriously allow for AU in macOS.
Hi Chris :-) Just wanted to let you know that it is possible to run UAD Plugins natively in Apple Sillicon now. You can check the procedure on their website :-). So excited because i run my studio through an Apollo and got my M1 today. Greets from Germany :-)!
Yes, using UAD Sparks that are VST3, but not all of the UAD plugins are in Sparks yet...85% of my UAD plugins are not unfortunately. The UAD Accelerator plugins are Sillicon supported, but not VST3, so they won't work in Cubase, unless Cubase starts in Rosetta.
I thought you are the Fuzzlord Effects guy.
Do you run in Rosetta or native most of the time? I use Logic and I am using Rosetta mode at the moment but am wondering if the machine would run better in Native! I have ram in Native mode and my plug-ins seem to work even if not qualified on m1, just curious! Thanks for the vids!
I mainly work in Silicon, unless I really need to use a tool that is Rosetta only.
Nice test, could you tell me the full specs of your MacBook please?
I left the specs in the video description
@@mixdownonline My bad, I see it now. Thanks alot and Merry Christmas:)
What kind of computer are you using in your studio? Is it a M1 Macbook Pro?
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I try! ;-)
thank you Selim for this...now i have to sell my ryzen 5950 desktop and ryzen laptop to buy a macbook ...i always found the price was unjustified on apple device..until the m1 chip
..hope microsoft + other chip manufactor will react.
Lol! If your computer works well for your music production work, KEEP IT! Change only if the computer is not fast enough for your needs ;-)
@@mixdownonline my desktop is ok , but my laptop although it can be used ,i need to bounce/freeze too often if i want to produce/mix/master a whole track and it s making a lot of noise so cannot be used to record in the same room, plus it need to be plugged to the wall , i feel a bit limited4=> just a quick precision i tested my ryzen 5950x and i can have 95 tracks before drop out, my laptop ryzen 4800hs 32 tracks, when i saw nanoview geekbench , it s difficult to see the correlation between the cpu power and the result in cubase (on windows x86 and macos arm64), so now i just wonder if windows limits cubase, i wish i could see a cubase bench on the latest cpu running windows and macos (hackintosh).
Man, that’s sad that UA hasn’t made their plug-ins VST3 compatible. Im very entrenched in that ecosystem. Actually breaks my heart.
Hopefully, they will support VST3 soon
Why my M1 macbook Pro 2020 it cracks at 30 channels with some few plugins on each track? It worked flawless until 2 months ago when it started to heat up, i went to solved the problem (renewed the cooling paste on the cpu) and still works like shit!!! Someone has the same problem? Maybe the paste isn't that good? i even updated from Big Sur to Ventura and is still crap... i don't know what to do anymore..
PS: until 2-3 months ago my laptop was dead cold and it still heats up after the cleaning and everything
soooo basicly the UAD hardware becomes....useless if you want to run it on M1 ?
Not if you're not using Cubase. If you're using Cubase, Rosetta will work with UAD Satallite
Just wanted to be the first to comment for the first time ever, 😀
LOL, Thanks! Good job :-)
I love your channel Chris, I hope you are happy and prosperous in your new location🎸🎸🎸
Some plugin companies play around with the wording "M1 Compatibility" to give the illusion that the plugin works as "native silicon " so be on guard:)
Would you mention the one that are questionable?
@@dezw6485 Just check and double check .Here is an example of some wording used : We are pleased that at this time, all of our plugins can be used on M1/ARM-based Macs, and nearly all of them can be used in Native-based DAWs, without running Rosetta. However, most of these plugins are only compatible in conjunction with Apple's AUHostingCompatbilityService, meaning they will only work as AU versions when run in native-based DAWs, and are not truly able to run natively themselves. We are working on updating all our plugins so they are fully native compatible. For a complete list of the current status of each of our plugins, see below.
@@normjones6916 Thanks Norm I was asking for myself, and for others, I do feel like the plug-in developers. do need our support? I managed to have a smooth-ish transition from Intel to M1
I’m aware of the type of wording that is used, I think some software might not make the switch, in which case, at least Rosetta can work until another alternative comes by or someone revives the software
I use both Mac and Windows, but I don’t understand why it is still taking so long for third party folks to get M1 compatible after 2 years already.
I'm with you, I just don't get it!
Is m2 more powerful
M2 compared to M1, yes, but compared to the M1 Max, it's interresting. nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m2-vs-apple-m1-max
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For sure!
Hmmmm...........🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I ran this project and got to 102 tracks, any tracks after that it started crackling. Weird thing is i am using a 5900x 12 core which has 4 less cores than the 16 core Don was using. Same buffer setting and same exact settings he showed in his video. The only things that's different is I'm using Cubase 12 pro and Don was using Cubase 11 Pro. I'm using Windows 11 and he was using Windows 10. Only conclusions i have to this is Windows 11 is better than windows 10 for audio work or Cubase 12 is more efficient than Cubase 11